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It was mid. -Guy who hasn't seen either.
It was mid
@@LuisSierra42 -guy who hasnt seen either
He never watches, the absolute critic!
But it actually was mid
I watched the boy and the heron, and it was really pretentious, the movie just throws a lot of stuff that seems to be simbolic for something, but none of it really manage connect to each other, so the movie fails to actually have some meaning or give a message. Spiderverse should have won ☹️.
- me, a guy who hasn't seen spiderverse
"I don't care if Spiderman didn't win, I just want to make sure Wish LOST" - A guy once said
Who was this particular guy
Fuck wish,justice for the benovelent king. Asha should be in jail for treason.
@@lividlife213Everyone who watched wish
It wasn't even nominated
@@drnanard9605 GOOD
When things I like wins: The Oscars are great and very important!
When things I like doesn’t win: The Oscars are irrelevant, it’s just self-congratulatory BS!
I go with the second statement regardless of what happens
@@breeeegs Not just Oscars, every award show, including game awards.
@@breeeegs they may be irrelevant but I’m autistic and keeping track of them is an interest of mine that keeps me sane and it’s a good way to discover movies.
I learned a long time ago that these shows are just marketing and popularity contests. It's all subjective so they shouldn't mean much but they create such a cult following. Then there are all the fundamental problems it can't shake. Like in general animated movies have to deal with a stigma and had to get their own massively broad category to be judged much at all. I mean has an animated film ever won best picture (only like 3 have ever been nominated) and ever since the "best animated film" category it's felt like they've shoved that possibility aside. Like is there a live action only category? No? Okay let's just assume anything animated is lesser for some reason.
@@Chukaseong
Hey, come on. Two years in a row without the award going to a Disney or Pixar movie. That's a win for everyone
You're going to jinx it man
plus two years that a non-CGI film won (Del Toro’s Pinocchio was stop-motion)
@@_kaleido which is a massive win for both 2D and stop motion animation
Honestly yeah, thanks for finding the middle ground!
@@-Ermine-Oh god.
Either Inside Out 2 or Moana 2 is going to be the one to win next year, isn't it? 💀
This is exactly what happened when I talked to a Spiderverse fan earlier, still don’t know where the violin music came from
Same, but the glass of water faded in front of my friend too.
Im not sure why my mic went out either
Exactly the reaction that took place in my head
And he wasn't even there to receive it. How dishonorable, right!?
Miyazaki was the one playing the cello, he's very talented
What's especially funny is that they're both about a young man traveling through alternate universes to save a family member
At least B&H didn't have a DLC cliffhanger.
@@ShockgueyRather have a rushed plot? By the time "Beyond the Spider-Verse" comes out, the story will be finished until the end of times.
@@HMNCLunar Were literally in a discussion about how Boy & The Heron did the same thing in less time. So "did you want a rushed plot?" Isn't much of an argument.
You could have literally removed all of the school stuff in the beginning and just gone straight to the Spider Society. Perhaps even cut the SS society all together and just have 2099 barely start it with Gwen/Pig/Noir/Peni and not have him be an antagonist.
A lot of the problems of the movie directly stem from the message the writers wanted to send with the recharacterization of Miguel and the SS being okay with Canon Events (Destiny/Fate) by standing aside and letting people die (this includes Peter).
Hopefully the writers don't abuse the animators like last time.
@Shockguey considering its part one of two even though they removed that label, perhaps there's something called payoff that will happen in part two to the setups of part one. I've seen the film enough to notice heaps of little setups and foreshadowing for Beyond. Everything is important.
@@Shockguey they want part 3 cuz they know everyone loves spider verse, its money man, i tell ya
I learned three things:
-Boy & the Heron won best animated picture
-The Oscars happened
-People watch the Oscars
that's all I needed to know about the oscars for this year
I learned Boy & Heron is a movie
A learned that and a 4th.
-People give a damn about the Oscars.
@@Voidi-Voidevery year I see some video about the main points of the oscars, just to say "why is it that comedy, horror and animated movies are so underrated?! SO unfair!" and then I forget about it for a year. Couldn't care less lololol
4th thing Boy and the Heron exists
meanwhile Miyazaki is like "oh I won an Oscar? who gives a shit lol"
it’s only the second time he’s won an oscar, the first being spirited away. i’m guessing he cares.
Phil Lord about to be the human equivalent of a nuclear bomb after his mismanaged production lost to Miyazaki.
@@jaybee27D yes that's why he always goes to the show and accepted his award with tears in his eyes. he loves American hegemony and nothing would honor him more than recognition from Americans. you can truly tell he cares deeply about the oscars from his actions and words.
@@simpulacrarecognition from americans🤣he couldn’t care less about that
@@simpulacra "well they give me money, might as well cry and sht so my next project will sell, oh well"
The absolute spider. He never mans
If the spider never mans but the man carries things does the spider carry things?
@@HarryLLC Lobotomy dropped guys just
@@HarryLLC Maybe the spider carries man.
Absolute Spider was my favorite special move in marvel vs capcom 💯💯💯
The Man and The Spider
Man Carrying Thing-Man: Into the Man Carrying Thing Verse
Shouldn't it be "Man Carrying Thing: Into the Verse Carrying Thing"?
He carried a glass of water in this video.....TRULY A REMARKABLE moment in the man carrying thing verse
@@lettuce141 Into the Carry-verse
@@lettuce141Shouldn't it be Carrying Verse Man: Thing into thing man verse?
So meta!
as someone who worked on the movie this is insanely accurate (congrats to the boy and the heron though, it is definitely deserved)
You’re a legend
Oh god, you animated the LEGO scene, that's amazing.
The OG!
Yo I'm subbed to you 😂
Absolutely love your work!
Spider-Boy: Across the Heron-Verse
The Spiderman and The Spiderverse
I think you mean “Heron-Boy”.
Truly one of the movies of all time.
I KNOW YOU
Batman: Across the Heron-Verse
Crazy that "The Boy and the Heron" is just the second hand-drawn animated movie to win an Oscar in the category, the first being Spirited Away.
Myasaki is the only man alive powerful enough to rob both Sony and Pixar of the Oscar with a 2D animated movie
Holy shit, it’s true! The Oscar for best animated film was only established in 2001, years after the end of the golden age of hand-drawn Disney movies.
Honestly though, I still think that Spiderverse is more impressive even though it is a 3D movie with shaders
@@A2L112 I think it would deserve it if it had an ending. they should give the award to the next one
@@guilhermebarao4866but what if the next one isn't as good? I'm afraid Across the Spiderverse was too good and the ending won't live up to the hype.
I love how even the microphone was like “even I’m not happy about this”
Microphone was rooting for Bradley Cooper and that 7 Oscar Maestro sweep
Never have I been so insulted by something I completely agree with.
I am too good for a free banana
Me, a Nimona fan: It’s an honor the film even exists and got all the way here 😊
Real
extremely true! also very fitting that it got nominated while disney's 100th anniversary movie didnt, given that they tried to stop nimona from being finished.
SAME! I sorta wish it did win though, but I see why the boy and the heron did it. Nimona getting this far was a miracle, and really funny considering Disney didn’t get even a mention at the Oscar’s!
@@RayDrawzDragonz competition was absolutely tough this year ngl all of the nominees were extremely good
@@an0bserver2000disney tried to stop nimona even getting started!
I can't even be mad. I can't. I've had my amigdala removed by Elon Musk ti make room for his brain chip
Blink twice if you need help
I doubt the guy who profits off Twitter would ever want you to stop being mad
Musk prolly removed that function too. @@CJ-xx5ms
@@ryang1202 LMAO
The Dupont Method very nice.
I paused 3 seconds in and said out loud through gritted teeth “yea I mean Miyazaki wasn’t undeserving of it…” and resumed the video only to get read like an open book.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! LOOOL This genuinely made me happy
This is a book reading channel after all.
I took one look at the Spiderverse poster he flashed and was able to discern it's complete garbage. Are you telling me you actually watched it?
@@chir0pter great bait
@@chir0pterBait used to be believable
Heron-Boy: Across the Heron-Verse
“It was a canon event, Mahito.”
😭😭😭😭
I do not want to imagine the magician uncle cheeked up in a skintight suit like Miguel O'Hara, but here we are because of your words and deeds... or would the most fitting simile here be the parakeet king?
Basically how it ends
Is that a jjk reference or am I just lobotomized
@@motivatedman9730honestly, anyone who recognizes a jjk reference (including me) has been or will be lobotomized.
ITS THE LAW!!
The boy really carried that heron
The Spiderman, however, did not carry the Spiderverse
Blasphemy. Together, my madame webs!
Spoiler alert: there's an echo of "Spirited Away" in "The Boy and The Heron", and, well, did the boy really carry the heron? 😊
I didn’t see The Boy and The Heroin but at least Wish wasn’t nominated
Pffffffttt. HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!! Like that would happen.
The Boy and the Heroin 💀
Ngl, I really want to see what they would have done with a movie called that
Heroin 💀💀
freudian slip?
@@PeterPeter-pr2hi They did. It was called El Camino. The boy was Jesse.
we all know the cinematic masterpiece 'plankton farts and dies' should've won all Oscars.
Including best double and best triple.
Only all the oscars?
"plankton farts and dies" actually won the Oscars in all the categories, the rest of the Oscars were for second place
I'm honestly more upset that Daniel Pemberton didn't make it past the shortlist for Best Original Score
Just like Joe Hisaishi wasn't nominated for The Boy and the Heron, yet John Williams is still there for a lazy, recycled Indiana Jones score. And they even posted an interview with Hisaishi on their official channel, how ironic. I guess non-Disney animation isn't worthy of other awards to them.
Williams kind of makes sense, for from what I can recall this was his last film. It isn't a GOOD REASON still, but Oscars do this kinda shit all the time. I don't fully follow the ceremony every year, but I feel like usually the score nominations are bloated by BP nominations, so it is definitely disappointing that Indiana Jones was nominated >> Haven't listened to either of these scores fully but Spider-Verse 1 and like ... EVERYTHING by Hisaishi has staying power and casual listening vibes. Which I don't think is way to pull off with film scores. Hopefully Hisaishi will continue to stay strong.
i was just listening to the soundtrack to atsv!! holy shit best soundtrack ever. ill never get over it. i dont know how daniel pemberton did it, its so amazing i cant wrap my head around how someone can make music this good
This is MY major complaint... that soundtrack is masterful I can watch the movie in my head just listening to the soundtrack 🫠
Soundtrack in both movies are wonderful, yet for some reason they chose to include the INDIANA JONES soulless sequel soundtrack for it and not movies with actual soul behind them
Godzilla fans right now, however:
*l e t s f u c k i n g G O O O O O O O O O*
No matter whether we're happy The Boy and The Heron won, or sad Spiderverse lost, we can agree over one thing.
DISNEY DIDN'T WIN ANYTHING, EVEN THE OSCARS THINK THEY'RE NEWEST MOVIES SUUUCKEED
I dont care who wins as long as wish losts. I watched a lot of movies but it was the first time I got enraged a movie existed. I didnt know they would make me feel such a emotion over a shitty movie but at least they succedded in this aspect.
They didn't even get nominated for this category. Nimona was nominated, which disney had abandoned for being "too gay"
Encanto was deserved
For me it was basically between Spider-Verse and Boy and the Heron so the fact it would've likely won had a Ghibli film not been in consideration as well probably speaks more to the quality of both films
The fact that it win and not spider also tells us plenty
@@Exel3ncethe bias towards the films i think
@@Exel3nce???
@@sptflcrw8583 ??
??@@sptflcrw8583
The first hand drawn film to win since the last Miyazaki film won (21 years ago).
The boy and the heron entirely deserved that Oscar tbh, I have never cried as much at a movie as I did during that goddamn movie
As a Spider-Verse fan, I'm legit happy that the Boy and the Heron won. 😅
me too
Why ?
Y-yes, definitely
@@Melkacbecause it's a great movie
@Melkac it contains super heros
honestly the competition between all the best animated noms was SUPER tight this year, all of the movies are so good in their own right
ngl Boy and the Heron is my second or third favourite ghilbi film of all time -- I've seen it like 4 times. I adore Spiderverse and would have been happy if it won, but like, yeah I was stoked to see my boy Miazaki win this for a such a surrealist masterpiece
it was kinda mid for a ghibli film, 7/10 for me.
okay.@@herobrineapril8451
@@herobrineapril8451 why?
@@AR-yd2nd there's ghibli films that have a clearer and more profound messaging compared to boy and the hearon.
@@herobrineapril8451
(THIS REPLY CONTAINS SPOILERS)
I thought that at first as well since I was pretty confused by why the step mom suddenly said she hated Mahito and it overall felt pretty different from other ghibli flims. But after reading more about it after watching I realized there's actually A LOT of symbolism in it, so it may take a few watches to catch everything. And supposedly the movie is somewhat of a biography of Miyazaki's own life, and as an understanding that his own son is not obligated to be his predecessor. So while it's not my favorite ghibli movie it's pretty good and I think it deserves to have won the oscar for the storytelling and animation. And hey atleast a 2D drawn movie won and not a cgi ai written movie (cough cough Wish).
Christopher Miller said he might as well lose to the GOAT if he's gonna lose, that says it best honestly.
Christopher Miller is a GOAT, maybe on the level of Miyazaki. Shame he has to work with an arrogant parasite like Phil Lord.
The best response comparison to others...
Man carrying spider
Man carrying Heron
Please stop your not funny
@@joshuajohnson8386 He never stops, the absolute legend!
@@joshuajohnson8386 Please stop you're not funny
Why did I sub....where's the man carrying things? This is bait I tell you, BAIT
Edit: subbed again....he is carrying a glass of water, I guess I haven't lost faith in this channel and stand corrected
True, he missed, not a legend anymore.
Edit: I, too, subbed again. As the replies below me stated, he was carrying a glass of water. Man Carrying Glass is a legend again.
At 0:32 he's carrying a water glass
he literally carries a cup in this video, which is by definition a thing
@@hiei374 then he is the prophecy foretold....
@@KGBSpyGeorgeCostanza Lisan al-Gaib
This is revenge for Wallace and Gromit beating Howl’s moving castle that one time
I am more mad that it wasn’t even nominated for best soundtrack, but Dial of Destiny was.
that really surprised me when i saw that. "Dial of Destiny????"
Yeah! Half of the soundtrack was reprises of previous songs. Yes Spiderverse had some too, but it was mostly original. You know your soundtrack is iconic when one of the creepier songs is used in internet jumpscare memes. I get that John Williams did Dial of Destiny and that he is iconic (his work defined my childhood) and is getting older, but this is just blatant favouritism that doesn’t accept the impact that animation and superheroes have on cinema.
fr though
Me when [*instert favourite movie*] doesnt win in [*insert oscar category*] and instead [*insert another movie*] wins
Swap [insert another movie] with [insert another deserving movie]. This wasn't me at all when Crash won best picture or Bohemian Rapsody won best editing.
i'm actually glad that favorite movie didn't win, because the fact that foreign film won instead gives me an opportunity to complain about the woke™!
I don’t even try to pretend that Annie Hall beating Star Wars at Best Director made sense.
there are definitely two kinds of ways this scenario plays out. This instance is the one that "I'm not upset I swear" is an appropriate reaction but sometimes you get a best picture winner like Crash instead of Brokeback Mountain
I literally said these exact words when i heard the news
Spider-verse fans are shouting at the clouds while Nimona fans like me smoking intently while staring at the sea
Nimona fans be doing that on a daily basis, honestly
Midmona
Honestly, with three amazing movies competing, hurt feelings were inevitable.
As a nimona fan this is true @@myhlanoelsalsa8690
@@KARKATELCESARENVIADODESA-pv4yd - guy who hasn't watched Nimona
Spiderverse can collect its Oscar when they finish the movie.
The movie was finished lol
Hahahah, good one
@@ms.divine4696Yeah people say it didn’t have an ending, but from the very beginning, Across the Spiderverse was framed as really being Gwen’s movie. Obviously Miles is still one of the main characters, since it’s his franchise, but if you look at how the movie starts and how it ends, the main conflict and plot is actually Gwen not feeling like she belongs anywhere, including with her father, but by the end of it, she has her own Spider-Team and she and her father have made amends. The franchise as a whole is about Miles, but Across the Spider-Verse in specific is about Gwen, and her plot line was completed.
@@peytonalexander5300 I feel like there’s a difference between something like Empire Strikes Back or The Two Towers, where it was part of a larger story but still a complete movie, and Spiderverse cutting abruptly to To Be Continued without a satisfying conclusion, as much as I enjoyed it.
@@tonimashdane33498what do you mean work for his movies?
This is me at the minute trying to be happy that Emma Stone won over Lily Gladstone
For what? What had she done recently?
@@carlosroo5460her role in Poor Things
I LOVED Lily in Flower Moon and think she was robbed, but Emma’s performance in Poor Things was a career best so I’m not that mad that she won
@@erikdaniels0n Yeah like Lilly was great,but Emma's role was a million times more complicated and she pulled it off with flying colors.
@@erikdaniels0n Poor Things had so much "Hollywood Pedo Cult" energy I'm not surprised she won.
She played a grown woman with the literal brain of a baby.
I'm honestly really glad the Boy and the Heron won
Meanwhile, Godzilla fans are still celebrating from last night
ATSV and Godzilla Minus One were my favourite movies of 2023 and what's absolutely insane was that I was actually expecting Godzilla to lose and braced myself for disappointment and thought there was no way ATSV would lose when I saw its competition. Guess I underestimated the Academy's bias against CBMs.
I love spiderverse but the Boy and the Heron simply deserved it more. Spiderverse 2 is the first half of an amazing movie, but we haven't seen it end, while The boy and the Heron might just be the most emotional Ghibli movie and truly feels like the end of an era
Uhhhh is that true? Because in terms of Ghibli I've only seen My Neighbour Totoro, Spirited Away and The Boy and the Heron and I left that theatre without really feeling any emotion outside of "Wow this is really beautifully animated". Everything about it was just a bit to surreal for me to connect with any of the characters on anything outside of a surface level. Happy for you if it hit different in your case, but if The Boy and the Heron is Ghibli's emotional peak then I just don't think we're operating on the same wavelength as the studio.
@@Hydralysk445 The Boy and the Heron is probably the most personal film of Miyazaki, getting into his philosophies and complicated feelings on himself, his art, and how he views the world.
That's pretty off-putting for many people, it's a pretty metaphorical film. I'm also more taken from less abstract films but I can see why this won instead of other Ghibli films.
@@Hydralysk445 I've seen every Ghibli movie except for Porco Rosso and the raccoon one (don't remember the name), and I feel the same way. As someone who grew up with their movies, this particular one felt kinda empty to me, makes me feel like everyone else watched another film. I might have to see it twice to get it?
@@Hydralysk445 ironically only seeing a couple Ghibli movies is probably why it didn't hit as hard for you, the movie's essentially an autobiographical review/love letter/farewell to Miyazaki and Ghibli's vast body of work. Bro's 82 and feeling introspective so a lot of what's on screen is some degree of metaphor for his relationship with the worlds he's built and the legacy he's left (irrespective of whether this is his last film or if the mf's still crankin em out into his 90s, dude is the undefeated multi-retirement champ). I definitely didn't fully grasp it on first watch to be clear but you can tell there was some metatextual weight and specific intent behind the later scenes, especially the uncle and his tower and the themes of creation/destruction and acceptance of one's decisions bringing fulfilment of its own. Not to say the meta analysis is the only valid one of course, would be reductive to say it's "just" about Miyazaki's legacy, but it's obviously a very personal piece for the old boy and i fuck with that.
For a more indepth take I recently saw this thread that did a really good job elaborating those meta points, talkin about Miyazaki's real life views and the links to other Ghibli movies
www.reddit.com/r/TrueFilm/comments/18dbxt8/my_personal_interpretation_of_the_boy_and_the/
@@Hydralysk445 By itself, I think it's going to be harder to connect to The Boy and the Heron compared to other Ghibli films. Understanding the context of Miyazaki's life was definitely helpful for me, and it might make more sense having watched his other war-focused movies. I don't really know how to compare it to his other movies. I just know it might be the last we see of Miyazaki, and it's cool to see him take on something ambitious so late in life.
If you’re going to lose. Lose to the GOAT
To those who haven’t seen The Boy and the Heron: please do!!! Honestly both should have won awards-I never got the chance to watch Spiderverse, but it’s on my list of to-do’s, and I’m certain it deserves the same high praise. I was a huge fan of the first movie.
(Also I really hope y’all dont grab your torches and pitchforks, I know it’s a crime that I haven’t seen it yet, I’ve just been really really busy and I want to watch it when I can devote time solely to appreciating it, not while I’m multitasking😭😭)
It hurts, but good for Boy and the Heron.
"Mahito, it was a canon event."
Oh, the Oscars happened?
Best comment ever.
literally my reaction
I only know of them because of John Cena.
Yeah this is how I found out the Oscars took place
Can't believe they went from events to incidents in like 5 years
i just cant be mad y'know
Baldur's Gate 3.
The Boy and the Heron.
2 things Spider-Man fans will never allow themselves to fully appreciate
I remember when “A Silent Voice” was snubbed by the BOSS BABY of all things. I couldn’t care less what the Oscar’s do since then. They clearly don’t care. Probably gave it to Ghibli not because it was good but because it’s a name they recognize since it appeared in the Oscar’s a lot before.
When works of art win through pedigree of their creators instead of actual quality. Why do we watch this show again?
the boss baby didn't win bro, it's just nominated
@@edba1.037 And “A Silent Voice” wasn’t nominated. That’s the issue here.
Considering you’re even trying to tell me this shit means you missed a good movie from 2016. And I’m not your brah.
Between this and Godzilla beating out Guardians 3 in the Visual Effects category, I really hope that Marvel fans don't try to make another Little Boy.
I liked G3 but goddamn did they pull off a miracle with that budget.
I watched it in 4DX and the [spoiler] scene had me rocking back and forth for a whole minute.
@@Shockguey It wasn't a miracle but more James Gunn being a good director and knowing how to work with VFX. My major is CGI and I remember reading an article interviewing the VFX supervisor for GotG 2. Apparently James Gunn is really good to work with. I didn't hear the same for the guy who directed Flash
As someone who cried like 16+ times during GOTG 3... I respect it.
Both films had mind-blowing VFX Imo.
GOTG 3 alone makes all phase 4 MCU movies look like a Spy Kids movie 💀
@@Spider-Nefilonah i enjoyed spy kids 3 much more than any recent marvel movie (excerpt gotg 3)
@@Trappist-1e646 well i was talking about the CGI & VFX quality (Spy Kids level CG 💀) but yeah lol
Animation is cinema. That’s what Spiderverse fans keep saying. So they should be totally fine that a much better animated movie won the Oscar, right? Right? Right?….
And if they don’t think the movie is better?
Across the Spiderverse isn't as great as people think it is. You could cut out the entire first hour and nothing much would change
That microphone is a Spider-Verse fan, it died of sadness.
Spider Verse fans can relate a lot to God of War Ragnarok fans now, both got cleared by Miyazaki led masterpieces.
Dam those Japanese
Yes, 2 robberies. Good observation.
@@tloz171nfs its not really robbery when Elden Ring is clearly the better title of GoW
@@samuelgeaney7556 nah, I prefer my games to have a story that doesn't require hour long youtube videos to make it good. Also modern production values are much preferred to NPCs that look like they came out of Skyrim.
@@tloz171nfscope
The absolute mic! It never feeds back!
I would be this person before I learned about the working conditions. Then I stopped caring about whether or not this film gets accolades. Also the multiple theater versions and reedits kinda drained a lot of my passion for this film. I'll never forget how I felt watching it for the first time but it's not really something I want to build my identity around.
Phil Lord without Christopher Miller is such an arrogant egomaniac.
Wouldn’t you want the animators to be recognized for their work
@@theworm7156the problem is that it's not the animators that receive it, it's the terrible producers that managed it, alongside 2/3 of the directors.
i love watching this guys videos on topics i dont know shit about bc theyre still funny and also basically my only source of knowing about these kinds of events
Spider carrying heron
*heroin
Man this is so relatable , I wanted spider verse to win so bad but I am not really that sad boy and heron won
I mean Spiderverse won most of the Annie Awards so they’re even ✌🏼
Spider verse won from other events award too, both are created with passion I'm just happy if either of them won
Spiderverse was great from what I remember before the seizure
I dont care who won the Oscars while it is NOT another Pixars film, so this year we must celebrate it !!!!
Facts
I cried when your microphone died of sadness, what a fantastic video.
Spiderverse is great but The Boy and the Heron is a cinematic achievement by a master at the top of the craft.
Is it though? I am not saying Miyzaki hasn't created some msterpieces, but Boy and the Heron felt really lackluster. My main problem is that the journey is just all over the place. I get the overall idea. MC feeling like he doesn't have a real place in the world visits an alternate world which he can later recreate to be "perfect" but still chooses the imperfect world. It's not the idea, but the journey that is lacking. At which point did he learn any lesson? Where in that journey was he influenced enough that he would make such a decision? The birds were funny though.
As someone who only cared about whether Godzilla: Minus One would win: lol, lmao
Literally me but with Nimona instead of Spider verse
"Spider-Verse should've won because it's more popular/famous"
If Spiderverse wanted to win they should have finished the movie
Exactly.
How though? There was still too many plot lines that needed to be cleared up in the next movie
i loved the two movies, Boy and the Heron totally deserved it
gotta love oscars treatment of the animation medium
Would you recommend the gunslinger as my first Stephen king book?
absolutely
@@ManCarryingThing Would you recommend the Silmarillion as my first Colleen Hoover book?
My first was pet sematary
I did that, and now I'm convinced that my second Stephen King book has to be _his entire back catalogue_ before I can get on with the rest of Dark Tower. (This is why I've been reading Pratchett instead)
i would recommend it as your only stephen king book
Boy and the heron is a beautyfull movie , and across the spiderverse is also beautyfull. But they are beautifull in two different ways and honestly can't be compared the way they did.
POV: Me, apparently the only guy in the world who didn't like Spider-Verse 2, letting someone yap at me while hoping they don't see the non-fan in my eyes.
Problem is the Spiderverse fans make it hard to agree with them when they slam Boy and the Heron for being "mid" when they haven't even seen it, they just parrot what they heard on twitter or reddit.
The video game equivalent to this is how zelda fans felt after baulders gate 3 won game of the year
And Spider-man fans
it was such a depressing event the camera died rip 😔🪦
I believe I saw the boy carrying a thing on his way back to Japan. Maybe the Oscar.
Shoutout to the Spider-Verse team for making the second-best animated movie last year! What a triumph!
Did Spider-Verse really deserve to win though? Sure the animation was as cutting edge as ever, but the first movie was still better and it already won Oscars.
PS: I haven’t seen the Ghibli movie yet.
"animation is cinema" people when animation wins an award
Who are you even making fun of?
@@spiderham5514 "animation is cinema" people. durr.
@@iamasnail8654 I feel like you're just making up people to make fun of
I get you, they would rather have a movie win because it's capeshid instead of an actually artistic movie deserving of such a nomination
It's not!?
Getting some real Boss Baby vibes from this one
boy and the heron deserved a best picture nom
I love Spiderverse but I am SO glad it didn't win. Not only would movie nerds complain about a superhero flick beating ghibli, but it would validate the horrible working conditions the animators had to endure while making it.
No, this is definitely the better timeline.
Do we know for sure Ghibli treats their animators fairly? Just saying, now seems like a bad time to assume an anime studio is not overworking their animators.
Also, I personally feel if the award is for a movie itself, BTS stuff and such should be removed from consideration. Now, if the award is specifically for an individual like actor/actress or director, THAT’s when it should factor in.
personally i sort of see this as a win to stop the spiderverse-style hegemony. i like the style, but people have been using it as a cheat for creative visuals.
@@doctordoom85 Studio Ghibli is located in Japan, of course the animators are overworked lol.
@@philcollinslover56705 examples? I don't see a problem with executives realizing they don't have to make every single animated movie look like boring trash to make money.
Honestly I'm just glad that a sequel with a cliffhanger that was just as unique as its predecessor didn't win. Did I like the movie? Yes. Was it as groundbreaking as the original with a fully cohesive story? No.
Man carrying Chai tea
I told myself I needed to go see it again in theaters (both films) because it was such an amazing experience… little did I know that I would not follow up on either of them
"At least it's not Elemental" I said shaking and crying.
The Boy and the Heron actually is ip, it’s based off a book called “How Do You Live?”.
I ask myself that question daily.
It’s really not actually! I’m almost done with the book and it’s nothing at all like boy and the heron. It’s not really “based on” so much as “how do you live is Miyazaki’s beloved childhood coming of age story, and the boy and the heron is his own story.” I can’t even think of a single event in common.
Congrats to Colombia as well for their first Oscar!
i like them both because they are both amazing feats in different ways. Also because idgaf who wins as long as Disney/pixar doesn’t win im game
Even the microphone couldn't handle how sad this was.
Quite love both Spiderverse films and haven't watched Boy and the Heron but I'm gonna assume it's amazing and deserved the win tough competition for animated
You assumed correct.
I hope you find it as amazing as I did. It was the most profound film experience of my lifetime. It saddens me that people feel it was disjointed or “didn’t get it”
A lot of people I know didn't enjoy Boy and the Heron, actually. And we're all nerdy weeb types who love Miyazaki's other works. But as evidenced by the other replies here, some have found it lifechanging so it's not for me to say that it's undeserving.
@@rioplats it's def like mostly deserved, not one of miyazaki's actual GOATed works but still, it's pretty good; compared to Disney nowadays
@@rioplats that’s ok. Honestly my family (we have all watched all the Ghibli films) didn’t “get it” or love it as much as I did. For me it was a life changing experience that has pushed me to be more creative in my own life. If you want an explanation for one of the (in my opinion) best metaphorical interpretations, “metaphor in the boy and the Heron” by Densetsu media is a fantastic watch. Either way I hope I can help explain to people who feel lost with the film why it is so well regarded by some
WHAT?!?! (INSERT FILM) WON OVER (INSERT FILM)!?!? OUTRAGEOUS!!!
I loved both movies, so it would have been a win for me either way
I think spider verse, nimona and the boy and the heron all should have won awards. The thing I’m mad about is that animation is still not given the regular awards like best director and such
"Super hero are modern day myth"
I would go to jail if I hear this irl
Eh, if they lock you up for dealing with someone spouting _that_ then the world doesn't deserve you anyway.
I gave up on Oscar a while ago, he's a lost cause.
A fan of both so basically since the news came out i was actually really happy for the boy and the heron to win because it really give off that people actually respect miyazaki's feet through the years
Look, I adored both films, but I will never ever be upset about Miyazaki getting more recognition for his work.