The End of the Internet is Here.
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
- The Internet is becoming a less useful, less usable, and overall scarier place. Disney and Max purging their content libraries, Google and Microsoft shifting the burden of online search curation back onto the user, and Twitter and Reddit restricting their API access all mark a definitive shift in the ways we all interact with the Internet going forward... all for the worse.
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chapters:
0:00 The Futurists
2:16 A Brief Retrospective
4:03 Locking Down APIs
8:34 The Culling of Content
12:31 The Death of Search
18:08 The Internet's Gatekeeper
20:03 Our Future
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we've reached the point of the internet where its no longer run by the hobbyists who want to keep everything up no matter what, now the internet is run by corporations who can just toss aside 20 years worth of history just because it costs a bit of money.
It's been like this for years tho
@@TheExileFox no it hasn't
Who didn’t see this coming though.
@@alexjustalexyt1144 So, industrialization and AI era doesn't look the same for you? Everything for profit no matter how many lives would be ruined
ASM Kalrizion
"we've reached the point of the internet where its no longer run by the hobbyists who want to keep everything up no matter what, now the internet is run by corporations who can just toss aside 20 years worth of history just because it costs a bit of money" TRUE
You know something is wrong when you Google a question, the first result is a Reddit page from a subreddit that has rightfully gone dark, the next one is an article that has been paywalled off, and the third one is an article that was written by ChatGPT adorned by neural network images.
And the only useful thing is that Reddit link that's dark.
hilarious. Sad, aweful, but still pretty hilarious
SOO many paywalls
Google is desperate to censor
They've even encorporated ChatGPT into Quora now, which is even more bizarre. If no one else answers your question, let's hope it's sober enough to even follow what you asked, today. Lol
I remember raving about the possibilities of the internet to my guitar teacher when I was a kid back in the early nineties. He scoffed, saying, “watch - once the bean counters get a hold of it, the internet will get destroyed, just like everything else they touch.” Sadly, he was right.
"bean counters"??
@@knopfir It's (admittedly archaic) American slang for accountants and executives who care only for profits.
Well, for now I can still find high quality guitar tutorials for free (unless you count ads), so I'll enjoy it while it lasts
Pretty unfortunate that nothing lasts forever, only to delay inevitable and start a new cycle of things.
@@Andyanddiana467 It almost sounds like a slur in hilarious fashion. God, I hope you don't mind if I use it next time.
Can’t wait for the web to go back to small hyper specific sites to answer questions
Ye tbh going back to being more small independent fourm based internet wouldn’t be to bad
Yeah, this is what I want too. The trick will just be finding them through the crap.
It’s how the internet should’ve always been. None of these degenerate fandoms and cultures that pervert everything good and decent.
@Nevirate communities based around fanatical devotion were an inevitability. It came free with our biological religious instinct.
@@Its.Some.Guy. We don't have a "religious" instinct, we do have tribal instincts though. Many humans have a need to find a community or "tribe" with which they belong, be that religion, sports, politics, internet fandoms, family, and whatever else. I just don't want someone reading your comment to get the wrong idea that religion is somehow a biological imperative, when in reality religion is just a manifestation of a baser desire.
I talked about how using Google to search doesn't seem to work anymore. You try to look up almost anything specific and it will just give you trash or ads. I was called crazy and that "Its the same as its always been" This inlies the core problem. No one notices anything until its too late.
You're not crazy, I've noticed it too. I can't find anything anymore.
use alternatives, dependence on Google harms us all
I was trying to find what a hibachi grill is called and couldn’t get anything but pages of ads and shopping.
Google is nothing but an ad now.
It works as an dictionary now. Smh
What alternatives?
Duckduckgo never finds stuff, Bing is really random what's left?
Google can still most of the time find stuff, but it also depends on what you're looking for. This last part is very important but often missed
Feels like the Internet and world in general just isn't made for people anymore.
You reap what you sow
@@redbullsauberpetronas Oh yeah, now it all makes sense.
@@SendyTheEndless how does it not make sence? That is basically the essence of all history lessons. It's only that you dont recapitulate that. The terms cybernetic and industrial military complex are around since both world wars. That people helped to dissolve society is a side effect of having voted entertainment over education. And what drives entertainment besides selling alcohol tobacco and guns, now the greatest killers on earth?
@@a.tevetoglu3366 Well now you've explained what you mean beyond a one line truism, I completely agree with you. That isn't anything to do with what I nor most people wanted, though. We don't live in a democracy, the plan moves forward however we vote with our ballots and our money. If voting could steer the course of history we wouldn't be allowed to do it. People don't want this though they do seem to be growing more complacent about it. At this stage, though, can you really blame them?
@@SendyTheEndless that is not how Martin Luther King or the anti Vietnam Movement would have stated it, nor would Eisenhower had approved such fatalism, that is why he warned all citizen. The corpocrats on the other hand count on this weakening pessimism while they are scared shitless of the idea that people could discover how they were tricked.
This is why you OWN things. Buy physical music, download anything that could possibly deleted.
You don't actually own those things, and what exactly is physical music? You may purchase a plastic disk that contains a digital format of music, but you technically only own the plastic and that is debatable as well. There are fewer and fewer things you can actually own, and I mean physical, tangible items like cars and washing machines. But we keep on paying huge sums of money for them and pretending we own them. About the only thing we are allowed to buy and own is trash.
@@RoySATX Please don't do this, we know what they mean. We're not talking specifics of what it philosophically means to own anything, we're talking about what it means to not have history erased from whole swaths of the internet just because it's convenient to sell more ads and subscription services to people ad nauseum. Come on now!
@@RoySATX one of the stupidest and most ignorant arguments ive ever heard. if you own a CD, you own the CD. including everything thats on it.
you can legally sell it, trade it, buy it, modify it, anything your heart desires.
all except infringing on copyright.
thats it.
@@RoySATX You're talking semantics. When you purchase a soundtrack by a music artist, you own that disc. There are no ifs, ands, or buts. Even if those songs vanished off all platforms, so long as you keep that CD you'd still have those songs. That's the primary point of "ownership" of music. It's the same deal as my vinyl records (except they're waveforms on a giant disc that the record needle directly plays from...).
A good difference example is digital vs physical video games. If you read the info, buying digital doesn't mean you own that copy of the game. You paid for a license to play. When you purchase a physical copy of the game, you own that copy.
You own if you have control over it. That's it.
Looks like we have to build our own part of the internet from scratch. Our own search engines, browsers, forum sites, information archives, everything. Just do it all over again with no incentives of profitability, just information preservation and true internet security and freedom.
and someone will turn this into mess in the end again
@CamelliaFlingert they'll have to do it a lot. Look up the incompetence of the CIA vs pirate Bay users, or just have a peek into the Linux community
I don’t think we need big infrastructure or the perfect, robust algorithms to do this. It’s more about everyday users committing to building their own search index, with proper categories and tags. Having the human in the loop is important, no matter how the data is in future implemented.
While many concerns need more technical solutions, the only way to start is helping others to participate and find value in the currently existing alternatives.
I was kind of in the mindset that there should be a main, international internet coupled with separate local internets, or something. But, I'm not sure how that could really be implemented as a separate system.
@@CamelliaFlingert And when that happens, We'll rebuild it again
Empires fell and were rebuilt hundreds of times throughout history. Who says this internet crisis won't follow the same pattern
The internet is relitivly new, so we don't have the history to back us up, but if we can rebuild the internet, *that* will become history. We already have history telling us what went wrong the first time, so we'll be able to rebuild the next one better and stronger
The internet is a fantastic, world-wide experiment, possibly one of the biggest experiments humanity has ever and will ever preform. And like any good experiment, it's going to have countless trials and faliures and failures and *failures*, until one day, hopefully, we land on something that works. Or we won't.
Even if there's not a perfect solution in the distant future, humanity will continue to fight for the weird, wonderful version of the internet. This generation of passionate internet users could be the first to do so
It could crash and burn in a million different ways, but we still have to try
Once ad blockers are no longer effective I will pretty much leave the Internet and go back to reading physical books because I'm not going to be force fed a bunch of ads. I'm old enough to remember a time before the Internet and smartphones were ubiquitous part of our lives, and you know what? I was much less aggravated and stressed back then. Well, internet, it was nice knowing you. Peace.
There will always be an effective ad-blocker. The real trouble will be when the people you like listening too value money over message. We are irradiated by adverts, a lot of them don't make themselves known.
i'm glad i've been downloading all the niche unpurchasable songs i like. if there's one thing the internet is good for, it's sharing art at least.
Brave Browser maybe
i'll keep downloading everything of interest i can out of internet.
I mean, honestly, back then it was mostly just watching TV, which was essentially what UA-cam is nowadays, in terms of how frequent and long the ads are. So, not really a lot has changed.
Remember "when you say something on the internet, it stays there forever"?
yeah, me too
"do not post with your real name on the internet"
Yeah hopefully my old accounts from when I was 12-13 get deleted so I don't have to live with all the embarrassing shit I did.
@@skyjelly9790
I mean, it takes a minute to learn a few things.
I remember arguing with someone once....
I was a teency but out of line. 😅
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
My dad let me haveva Gmail user when I was 8. I’m so glad my Google+ account got purged.
When everyone was switching to and shilling Google Chrome a decade ago, I could smell the Internet would get shittier and shittier as Google getting that much influence on the web could only lead to less privacy, more ads and getting closer to a dystopian corporatocracy. I’m surprised I was so spot on despite that I knew so little about politics.
The saddest thing is it won’t get better because that’s what people want. It’s just socially accepted to view technology as a scary black box that the common of mortals should never have control over.
I'm glad that I've used Firefox for well over 15 years now. Never did like chrome. Had a bunch of people try and convert me, but I held fast. Bonus, I have access to ublock origin, which blocks youtube ad's. For now anyways.
What you are lamenting has a word: lack of class consciousness, or technically 1. awareness among the people that they have certain common interests (many of which are being found against by larger forces), 2. Awareness of their position in the economic system, and 3. the need and potential the come together and use their power to change things.
In this case people lack it because they are either ignorant that the internet is becoming so corporatized or feel powerless in doing anything about it/don’t know how they might go about working to change things. The solution is that we need more people talking about how we are all being screwed in any case like this, but also what power we do hold and how we can act on changing things, aka raising class consciousness.
Now you can call me a spooky Marxist for saying all this, this was one of his ideas anyways. I’m not even really the biggest Marxist personally and I feel like most of Leftism is missing a lot of stuff I’d like to see in it, but a lot of the ideas are really powerful so just take what you like. Also the most difficult thing is really bringing the ideas down to earth and translating them into actual effort and action.
@@cyruswilliams2766 it is a shame that Firefox is too far-away for most people to reasonably learn it, like switching from android to apple, it is something which may only help you a little at the start, but as time goes on it becomes harder to switch, as one of the services collapsed around you.
@@wow-roblox8370 You're acting like Firefox is some strange esoteric technology that nobody knows. It's a web browser.
@@KnzoVortex No, Marxism will not fix this issue. Nobody gives a shit about who owns the factory.
So glad someone is talking about this! My mom in her 60s was asking me a few days ago: “all this music, videos, art… it could just go away some day. Is there a way to copy and preserve this stuff?” No kidding, I had to explain to my mom that any attempt to preserve digital media for the future was a crime. Very soon the internet is going to be like streaming: chopped into numerous paid “versions” of the internet with access to different parts of it.
You're wrong about it being illegal, it's only illegal if the copyright holder prohibits it. Kevin MacLeod's music is royalty free, for example.
@@PsychopathUltimate macleod in question can literally end the internet right here and now lol, we're so lucky he hasn't been converted to evil by like a sterotypical evilization ray or somethienggrgorogo
Proper answer: yes, it can and should be preserved.
Can you preserve anything tho? Digital or Real, time always finds a way to make everything new, be it an object, a language, or an idea.
@@victorvaz3693 are you talking about failures of HDDs? This problem is solved by hosting data at different locations at once.
Glad I’ve started seeing more people talking about this recently. As how these companies have been acting is horrible.
cry about it
"people"
I have noticed that the internet stopped being people-centered and started becoming only profit-centered about 10 years ago. When Google search results started showing me more "buy this and that" options then answers to my questions. It only got worse from that point. I can't find almost anything on google now without adding "reddit" or "stackowerflow" at the end.
@@accountnew7030Edgy edgelord is edgy. 😂😂😂
@@accountnew7030 enjoy being used as a pawn by corporations then i guess
1990: Web 1.0
2000: Web 2.0
2010: The great standardization of the internet
Now for the 2020s, it is seeming that the internet will become fractured again. Shut into small groups like forums and servers with content doomed to be permanently lost.
The "standardization of the internet" is what destroyed it
So basically the techbro wet dream aka web 3?
@@Dave102693 No-one even knows what web 3 was supposed to be, other than that lots of crypto-bros try to shoehorn a blockchain into it wherever they can.
it would be interesting if a newer generation like me grew up where the internet was like the 90's, except, well, modern.
@@vibrantgleam Don't let the rose-tint get too strong. The earlier age of the internet had some things we miss, yes - but there was a lot of bad too. Moderation is a double-edged sword.
I hope the internet archive has a backup they can send to someone who just doesn't give a f about legal stuff and sets it up again as The Archive of everything or something like that.
You can't really just not care about the law, you can't really just ignore a lawsuit.
Unless you are a british royal who is a creep
@@plebisMaximus piracy websites don't really care about the law either
Russians: Let us introduce ourselves.
@@nottheboc1498 "There is no crime if you don't get caught."
The reality is that we're at the end of the "free lunch"-business cycle. Tech has been flooded with investor money for almost 2 decades now. This enabled tech companies to reel in millions of users, with little to no regard to sustainable business models.
With consolidated customer bases and squashed or acquired competitors it's easy to see why tech companies are now walling up.
You're getting at investment capital, which I believe to be a massive problem. It's a form of indebtness, a rented exchange. The rented exchange is a conflicting exchange between classes of property owners. The point of free exchange was to be one and done, to get away from the perpetual indebted exchange of the rentier economy.
The thing is, how is it going to work out with angry users that expect from 2 decades for everything to be free? People are just going to pirate and find work arounds for inconveniences tbh
@@mykaruest3620 My guess is those companies will A/B-test the prices to keep just enough good little customers around and remain in business.
Personally, I believe we greatly over-estimate customer agency, and under-estimate customer complacency.
Only time will tell.
We now have an entire generation of people who have grown up on a internet that wasn’t financially viable and bow we are starting to see it fall
Well, they never made much money outside of ads, which are essentially speculative investments from other companies. And now that ads are dying, the last of the "investor" money is drying up, and the companies have to try other methods.
this sucks so much. I hate it. I had a conversation with my dad the other day where he told me about the ‘shitification’ cycle, where first a company is user friendly, then once they have users they switch to being ad friendly, and once they have advertisers, they switch to being solely focused on getting money from both users and advertisers, being unfriendly to everyone but themselves. We’re in stage three rn. It sucks so much because we’ve trapped ourselves in the internet- it is so important to our daily lives and a lot of stuff couldn’t happen without it nowadays. The companies that own everything online have essentially trapped us and now they just want to get our money, and there’s basically nothing we can do about it apart from protest, and seeing how the Reddit one went, it doesn’t look like that will work very well. I’m waiting to see what new social media will pop up to try and replace all these rotting ones. But I also think places like Neocities, where you can make your own site, are so incredibly important now because the internet is losing that creativity and and freedom (or more like it is being taken from us).
I first discovered such cycle in MMORPGs. Now I see it everywhere.
There is only 2 genders
agree with all of this. this video reminded me that i should finish my neocities site. sucks how deep we are in the cycle, but eventually we'll be at stage 1 again and the internet will rise to be better again, i hope
That's why even when people yell and rave about Rumble or UBlock or Firefox I view them with caution. Any place with devoted fanatics is going to be able to take advantage of them eventually.
Protesting does work very well, but it does also involve a mental strenght that few - if any - actually posess. If you are on Reddit, for example, the best way to protest would be to simply delete your account and never look at anything on that website again. There's absolutely nothing that Reddit leadership or anyone else could do to prevent you from doing that. Of course, it only works out if enough people end up doing that, but this is not a good excuse. Someone has to start, and if you're the one who starts, you no longer need to worry about anything. You did your part, now it's up to others to do theirs, and wether or not they do it, along with any consequences, is entirely their problem and doesn't need to concern you anymore. It is the same with other websites like UA-cam. You want to protest against UA-cam and all the shady shit that Google's doing with this website? Just delete your account, never visit this website ever again.
This is where the mental strength thing comes in. You see that I am still here, despite being greatly dissatisfied with Google and how they handle things on UA-cam. It is probably similar for you and many others, who *know* that the only right decision would be to leave but still can't do it. The corporations also know that most of us are - tbh - weak af, and that is why they are so confident. We can complain and cry and moan about everything that's wrong 24 / 7 for years or even decades, but at the end of the day, we'll still be here, and us being here is the only thing they'll ever give a shit about. Doesn't matter to them wether or not we actually enjoy being here as long as we still continue to choose to be here.
If Socal medias purge inactive accounts, we could not only lose internet history. We could also lose many real world history sources. We live in the internet age, so the most accessible digital sources will be on the internet. I love studying local history for example. I know there is footage of buildings/places which don't exist anymore or are at least very different.
That is called "digital amnesia" - look it up.
We're gonna be forced to learn a whole new set of skills to handle problems we would normally "google" OR we'll be forced into setting up our own decentralized web. Can you imagine the Dark Web of all places becoming the new internet for the people? No rules, no limmits, but all the danger your could imagine.
Honestly, it seems like a better idea than trying to scroll for hours to get past all of the ads on google.
"Lunarpunk and the Dark Side of the Cycle" helped inspire me to start working on some decentralized solutions myself. Some of the origins of Bitcoin lie in Hashcash, which was intended to prevent spam by adding a computational cost to send messages. The rebuttal to "why do things with crypto that you can do faster with a database" basically comes down to that - the quality of the result is, in fact, important enough to be paid for. Crypto isn't the only tool to use, but I think it will be important in what's coming.
Get the people entirely hooked and dependent on Google, then snatch it away. Oops, a bunch of lost, scared little children. Now let's control them.
Honestly I’ve used TOR in the past and I’ve found myself using it again. I could deal with ads I could deal with content becoming stale or I could deal with paid subscriptions but all three mixed on basically every platform now is just awful. You want me to pay for barely tolerable content and watch ads too? No ty.
I’ve gotten to the point where when I want to learn about something i just get a book. You used to be able to google anything, then it was youtube, and then it was TikTok. Now everything is an ad.
Another point is that the web is becoming more and more “Hyper Polite”
The NSFW is disappearing anywhere,
The web and the world is going to became like UA-cam kids,
Hyper positive ultra coloured silly and
Boring
Also encouraging lies. Hyper polite lies.
This is worrisome, I assume the dark web will still be around? Have not gone there.
@@thecompareablezombie probably
"Hyper Polite" = Woke
@@thecompareablezombie The dark web is the true internet if you imgaine Google as a gaint space station then the dark web would be the rest of the universe outside
"The future of twitter is becoming more and more hostile" - I mean, that sums up the trajectory of the entire internet for at least the last 5 years. So it's hardly surprising it's ramping up.
Twitter was already hostile for years lol, nothing really changed under Elon
True, it’s harder and harder for us LGBTQ people to survive, emphasis on the TQ
@@KindlyKalensome people say Musk changed twitter for good, its a lie, Musk just made twitter even more political
Having been active on the internet since the 90s, there is a part of me that is fine with social media sites devouring themselves. And my response is not to go find a replacement, but instead go hop into the car and drive out to some beautiful spot in nature*
* the irony is that I'm using a mixture of two mapping apps to find beautiful spots in nature.
Nature does not have my spanish, russian, scottish, german friends. It only has Hungarians, and I rather not deal with Hungarians any more than neccessary.
I use a mixture of two mapping apps to find beautiful spots in nature too! XD But getting out there isn't enough. My brain just won't deal with all the stimulation of the outside world very much. It's bad enough watching videos. I need plain text chat to survive.
What apps?
@@Kulkasterbang Google maps and Gaia GPS.
This is most definitely the end of the useful internet. In the early days of search engines, no one fully understood the internet, it was just some "thing", anyone old enough will remember the days that people would say "I don't really think this internet thing will really be a thing"
Back then people making search engines and websites were doing it out of passion and fun and they were allowed to because what they were doing was not tangible. Now we live in a world where everything on the internet has some inherent value, Web pages, blogs posts, videos, ads, user data. The idea is that all of that can be monetised and extracted.
The really sad part about it all is that Mozilla is standing there on its own fighting against much of this, however if people continue to go with Chromium based browsers, there will become a point that Google can design it so that developers are pushed towards building content better based around serving the technologies that Chromium based browsers, especially now that Microsoft has moved Edge over to Chromium.
I really admire Mozilla but on their own they don't stand a chance, Google and Microsoft will eventually make them a thing of the past if they get their way because serving advertising is way too profitable to allow an independent browser to exist.
well mozilla could get cut off any day now, a lot of their funding comes from putting google as the default search engine
@@42seven It's in Google's interest to allow them to exist. Without Mozilla, every Browser would be Chromium based and Google would get hit with anti-trust lawsuits in every country.
@@truegamer_007 It's really unfortunate that we've let enforcement of our antitrust legislation fall so far that "precedent" is now to ignore the blatantly anti-human actions of these profit-seeking leeches who already have all the money.
DuckDuckGo browser? That might be built on top of Firefox though.
@@milesdavis2353 duckduckgo was shown to be given data to microsoft
literally the only browser i know of that google is lynx, which can't be used with 90% of the internet
The section on SEO is so relatable. It's so difficult to find information on the internet now, all the main results are just meaningless fluff that list the same keywords in a different order. I've been doing a lot of research for university assignments recently and it has really highlighted the depth of the depravity of SEO.
you need to use boolean strings to find specific stuff for academic work
Sadly, nobody expected the internet to become so lame so fast. "Thanks, 2010s," I say with supreme sarcasm.
Finally someone who understands the 2010s were the worst decade in human history.
@@skyjelly9790 I wouldn't call it "the worst decade ...," only that it -- meaning the corporations -- ruined plenty of what was already working perfectly.
„the internet doesn’t forget“. it absolutely does, the companies will just delete it
We need a resurgence of the open internet with unique websites. Especially now that federated platforms are a lot more well known.
I’ve always felt the history of the internet strongly paralleled to the history of the American “Wild West” and, yeah, feels like 1895 these days. We were lucky to be here for it
Then i just hope i won't be here anymore when we'll have the equivalent of nowadays... 😬
oof, imagine the 13 y/os who just got onto the internet and google is bad, reddit is actively hurting itself, twitter is political, tumblr is mainly shitposting or trying to make you happy, deviantart is art, and nothing is what they need from it.
That’s exactly how I’ve been looking at it. Hackers, pirates, and dissidents are like the modern day cowboys.
@@alessandrobaggi6129 honestly I’m not even into nowadays nowadays
@@redgreen2453I can’t wait for the internet red dead redemption
The internet feels like the end of a long game of Monopoly
like basically our whole society
Yes because chairman Mao would’ve NEVER
@@TheAnthonyMarlowe You're adding nothing to the discussion with your anti-socialist foaming
@@Grogeous_Maximus get lost commie
That's literally the point of Monopoly. The game was made to demonstrate late stage capitalism. The game starts with wealth equally distributed amongst the players, and ends with one player owning everything while everyone else owns nothing. Hence, monopoly.
Discord also has the same thing of "If you haven't used your account within two years then it's automatically deleted", so that means all of the past chats you had with your friend are gone which is insane.
Discord never truly deletes your account though. They just call it "deleted user (string of numbers)". They have access to your account, everything you say, bad and good.
X corp sounds like the most dystopian tech company I’ve ever heard. Who came up with that name?
Probably its Gen X ceo Elon Musk. We like to name things X.
X-box, X Games, X-Men, etc
@@Kwijibobspace x
Guess we are going project moon now
@@doctorhealsgood5456 Better hope we're not in the backstreets blub
Wait til you hear about blackrock.
This is the consequence of a centralized internet, of depending on only the biggest sites. They waited for people to become comfortable and for their services to become "essential". Now they're free to do whatever they want, if we're lucky internet will adjust again back to smaller sites and less centralized services but at this point it's not certain. What is certain is that this profit driven internet will never be the same again.
Welcome to the Cyberpunk future. Writers and Artists tried to warn us, and we did not listen, and now its too late. To fix the broken world today now needs us to pull it all up by the roots, and replant new health plants to preserve what we can.
I thought it was a mistake that Firefox stood alone in not adopting a Chromium base. Boy was I wrong. Firefox is once again king
When I was a kid I was told, "If you post something online, it will be there forever!" Now that I am an adult I am sitting here staring at how much of the internet is just lost forever now...
Lost media like “Ulterior Motives” and The Original Jeff the Killer Image seem to be lost forever so yeah…
"Quick, squeeze out every last bit of money while everything collapses"
Hmm seems familiar, can't put my finger on it.
Don't forget about conpanies taking things away, or limiting the main functions of older programs in order to point users towards their newer programs. I feel as if google's reverse image search has going noticably dumber over the last few months, most likely in an effort to push google lens. At this point it feels like their downgrading things just to sell it back months if not weeks down the line and it's frustrating.
Google lens is horrible lol
I hate Google Lens. It's so bad that even Bing Images looks good by comparison
Lens and image searches have both turned into garbage. I used to use it daily when vetting women to see if they're real or a bot/spam mostly and as of late the results are terrible. I also tried it for a skin rash recently and it wasn't able to key in to the same rash but I feel like it used to be able to do that.
@@overyourheadunderyournose yandex's reverse image search is far more useful at the moment. As a photographer who sometimes places ads to hire models, i have to sift through a bunch of scammers/fakes. Yandex has proven its value tenfold over google.
microsoft has a really good example in this too
windows 7 was like, one of the best os out there, almost no bloatware apps, fluent, beautiful design, and fast... fast as hell. then we came to windows 10, something really close to 7, but definitely worse because of random bs apps. today we're at windows 11, the worst of all. what microsoft will do to both windows 7 and 10? discontinue them because of "need to transition to a newer version" (actually, windows 7 is already discontinued i think)
not only that: in windows 11, you surely can improve it alot, but compared to doing it to windows 7, its far worse
windows 12 is coming soon too. welp guys... when the windows im using rn (10) starts being discontinued or when i get a new pc, ill definitely go slapping some linux thing in there
This is why we should build the internet around collaborative websites, like the various wikis. But, that will only kick the can down the road, the only way to remove predatory tactics & companies is to remove the profit motive.
If free solution is better than paid one, commerce disappears automatically.
If youtube of all places is looking like the best of the worst, then you know something's fucked
I miss the days where the internet was about finding cool webpages you find on an afternoon while researching things; forums, web archives, personal blogs, websites hosting tools for random things, etc... some of those things are still around but they have become harder to find on the ocean of paywalled websites, streched articles full of ads and random social media posts
The thing that made the internet felt more genuine than other forms of media was it's decentralized nature, as most as it is handy to have anything we would want to check in a few websites, it also made the internet and it's content more centralized and thus easier to influence and control, making easier for corporations to control these spaces freely.
Ngl the "death internet" theory always sounded a bit too ridiculous to me, but i cannot say they aren't wrong to think that...
The internet is the same its just mostly filled with garbage and money making schemes, i am not surprised were the internet is but how long it take to get there. I think most of it was the shareholders, ceo and executives have mostly no idea and what porential and risk internet have. As in all booming enterprise it first skyrocket, oversaturate the market and deflate. And bigger the company bigger the fall. If the current trends make fiscal sense it will continue, on this front is partially our fault also because if no one use it they will not make more.
agreed. I miss SEARCHING for something and not getting directed to something TOTALLY unrelated.
"for you" "others liked" "you might like" "try this" etc..
Down With Greed, Down With Corruption. Hold everyone accountable. These greedy evil people have damned humanity for their own greed, Corporations, Pharmacies, Governments, Pure Evil
How do we identify who needs to be held accountable, and who is going to hold them accountable and in what way? The only power that we little people have is in the boycott and revolution.
Down with capitalism
@@slappy8941 Strength in numbers. If the public is truly unified in their outrage, no individual or corporation will be able to stop the riots, unless demands are satisfied. Of course, uniting the public is easier said than done.
@@Luke-eq5kx capitalism isn't the problem, the unregulated corporations are. In their attempts to dissuade the public from hating them they tell you it's the system that must be torn down, not the abusers of that system.
We need the government to do their damned job and stop those greedy corporations from ruining the quality of life of the citizens, but everyone in government is either ignorant or willfully ignorant of the problems these corps are causing the everyman.
The EU is doing their part, using law to force Apple to put the objectively superior usb c port on their phones. As well as other such laws. We need more lawmakers to care more for the people, and be willing to take a hard stance against the greed of the companies.
@@endlord_1.185 but how do we identify who to punish? i'm not against eating the rich fuck them all power to the proletariate, but, aside from the tredecillionaires, who do we attack? All this energy has to go somewhere, and like a prince rupert's drop, hitting the wrong nerve might cause it to explode.
very important for everybody to get external hard drives and start downloading and saving anything you find interesting you see online, be it movies, books, music, videos, game roms, magazine scans, whatever. who knows if that stuff wont just be wiped out off the web in a couple years or be put behind a very expensive paywall
this.
Realized this back in 2001 and have been practicing it since (and keeping backups of my backups) 😁
Sometimes I feel like the entire world is going in the worst direction possible, humanity is slowly writing the civilisation's end and that's what we've been witnessing.
Jesus Christ is coming soon after all
Or maybe we will talk to each other in person again. Friendship will go back to normal, no more MGTOW or dark feminine energy will exist. We will build 3rd places again that aren’t filled with tech forcing unnatural engagement. Just maybe? But I’m also an optimist.
Yeah we either live in a simulation or God is punishing us. There's really no other option
Kali Yuga seems as real as it has never been.
@@KH-gp5uf This guy gets it
9:04 If the deletion of Google accounts do end up including inactive UA-cam accounts, there’ll be a great hollowing out of classic UA-cam videos.
I urge everyone to start downloading their favorite videos. I’m definitely starting to consider it, because I’ve already lost track of some of my favorite old UA-cam videos.
I would love some sort of browser extension that downloads any videos you watch that are posted by older/inactive accounts that way as a community, it will be a lot easier to find old youtube videos.
I did that way back in 2006 when UA-cam first came out. Although, we have to accept the limited hard disk space available for increasing sums of data that need to be stored. Storage has a physical limitation, so I always anticipated old parts of the internet would be replaced with new data. Of course we can keep manufacturing disk space, but data also gets bigger and bigger.
@@MichelleHellcompress them to rar files then
They've already deleted thousand upon thousands of classic videos and you people are the ones who cheered it on
@@redbullsauberpetronas I noticed what you said because there was a couple of music videos that I listened too and in a week or a month, they were gone.
We made it work via the underground in the 90s and we can do it again. This process of killing the internet started in about 2010. But lately, the bots and simulated content is bonkers. That's one whole topic you didn't cover. The social engineering and social manipulation that will take place is incredible. Remember, they closed all the libraries, you can't even go brick and mortar to get original knowledge anymore, they can start re-writing entire blocks of history in another generation or two.
Most important books are still available in decentralized networks.
No one have ability to destroy them yet.
@@sdjhgfkshfswdfhskljh3360 the fact that they're digital leaves them vulnerable to manipulation though. Revisionist history is mainly how they deceive e everyone.
They closed libraries?
The library in the town I live is still open, and so is the one in the "city" I work in.
@@jackalenterprisesofohio most of the libraries that were closed during covid NEVER ve eopened or where they did it's own evry very limited hours.
This was their intention
The internet, social media, and many other things should be classified as utilities. Profit should not define us, and should not be the greatest good.
I hope we'll see the collapse of all these services like Google, Twitter, etc. that are thought to be be "too big to fail".
but the data has to be saves somehow somewhere
From whom I've talked to on Bitchute back in 2018, someone that used to upload CBS weather clips online is one of the anonymous groups dedicated to downloading everything into hard drives, then shipping them off into underground vaults to archive them incase if say an EMP or an internet wipeout/blackout occurs in the near future. Thank god they're doing the work they can to archive as much as possible.
@@SuperFlashDriver I promise you this isn't true and you're a bonafide idiot for even thinking that it could be.
@@SuperFlashDriver I just can't get over how radically stupid you must be. It's really driving me crazy honestly
@@SuperFlashDriver Godspeed to those people. I know petabytes of data in an incredibly difficult endeavor to take on, but at least doing something to save precious data, including stuff that doesn't exist in the real world anymore is at least somewhat comforting to know. Btw, mind dropping a link to them?
The saddest thing is watching the old optimism for the internet die. You see it everywhere, like Vsauce's old "Do Online Now Guys!" series, all now replaced.
Used to be a site for anything, and now there's just Facebook, Reddit, UA-cam, and Twitter.
@@KyriosHeptagrammatonthere’s 4chan, but it’s popularity is withered and faded away. It’s one of the only remnants of the Wild West era of the internet.
It’s weird to have grow up with the internet and seen all the change. Feels a bit like the mom n pop corner store is turning into a 711.
It's crazy how fast the world seems to change. It seems like it changes faster than we can comprehend it.
It's a simple fact that the economic system we live under forces those with meaningful aspirations into the service of those who ruthlessly pursue profit. All of humanity's wisdom, creativity, and passion is subjugated by greed. We need to collectively recognize the flaws in our systems and cultures in order to build something better.
YES. please.
Our flaws lie within ourselves - information shouldn't be driven by greed.
The flaws in our cultures? Can we start with all the pepes and wojaks and dumb politics and redditoids and their delusional self-loathing manchild nonsense?
We are the ones who flocked to proprietary, centralized services, now we have to pay the price for our stupidity. The internet isn't dying, it's healing and if things continue to go well we'll see many other services die soon.
I have been talking about this for at least 8 years and everyone has been calling me a crazy nihilist.
I should have been talking about it and doing things about it for a lot more than 8 years, but I didn't. Oh well.
I grew up with television in the 1960's. Where I lived, we could get all the regular TV shows with rabbit ears and two channels. Then sometime in the 1970's, cable TV was introduced. This meant that if you wanted to get all your favourite shows, you would have to pay a monthly cable fee. If you did not subscribe to cable TV, your viewing choices were limited. In many cases when people get attached to a "free" service, businesses make you start paying. Back in the day many people could not afford to pay the monthly fee. It seems from this video, I will have to start paying to go to my favourite sites and apps. I am now in my 60's and because of my interest in many subjects and thirst for knowledge, the internet has opened up a whole new world for me. Before the internet, I was an avid reader. Books seem to be on the way out. Most business now has to be one done on the internet instead of in person. At this rate, many people will not be able to afford to function in this world.
It is, and yet, perhaps this will be the beginning of a new golden age as well. We must ensure these companies fall, no matter what it takes. We can bring back the beautiful era of the internet that made it so great, but to do that, we cannot bow down. You may be outnumbered, but a cornered animal is the most dangerous.
we aren't outnumbered if we all reject this bullshit together. it's just hard rallying up numbers and courage.
@@sinzones3909 the issue is that people either want this, or are oblivious to it. if it were possible to get everyone and their grandma to even put a second thought into this issue something could change, but otherwise no. the slumbering masses dont care
Nah it's over. Either this keeps getting worse or the internet collapses and does not come back.
@@johner3364 Maybe, but I will die fighting for what I believe in.
@@Leafy597 We will bring back that greatness, even if we must do so through iron and blood.
I say we need open source browsers and even open source community owned websites even if it doesn't sound feasible now we gotta find a way to keep them out or at the very least limit their scope
And open source hardware
So, Firefox...
(technically chromium is open source too, but it's too close to Chrome)
Open source simply isn't enough. Chromium (the foundation of most of the most used browsers) is open source, but that simply isn't enough at this point.
What we need is nearly all software to be libre, and connected by a libre internet.
It sounds like a gigantic shift, but at the very least it's becoming the reality of things slowly but surely...
Preach
@@TheExileFoxwithout chromium. Firefox is not exactly open source anymore. Google has a grip on FireFox…
Idk I don’t think it’s just nostalgia anymore. It seems like EVERYTHING has either gotten worse in quality or function or some kinda twisted weird greed is ruining everything. It’s like being hit at every turn. All the things you loved and though were enjoyable? Not anymore? A future that seemed exciting or at least optimistic? That’s actually laughable. Idk man. Everything’s going to sh*t.
it is what it is
Yeah the quality of everything has gone down and ads are shoved down our throats. Like I can’t even google a item without at least 5 shein and temu listings
@@oceanexblve884 We have to create the services that we liked before, because they will lose the competition simply if something normal appears and without such a huge monetization
everything is going to shit, but everything has always been going to shit
This is a good video. I think you make great points. The useful internet is noticeably dying, UA-cam being a unique exception, in my opinion. And that is not to say I think UA-cam will neccesarily stay safe.
I hate what the AI bots are doing to the internet. We've barely gotten started and the spam and bullshit has amped up to insane levels already.
I hate the idea of AI for many reasons but killing open discourse on the global scale for individuals is going to be up there near the top.
I really wish people would stop and collectively have the serious conversation: Do we want this shit in our lives?
Who is this technology going to ultimately benefit? (spoiler, not you.)
People don't understand that we do have voices and collectively we can slow the speed of bullshit entering our lives. If we don't do shit until everything has already been done, going backwards will be far too difficult or potentially impossible.
This is really scary stuff. It's like people don't care. Most people seem to understand the implications well enough, but are just apathetic to what will go down and how it will change all of our lives, and very quickly at that.
I just don't care what gets lost, if the end result is digital consciousness existing in virtual universes, a fully automated work force, expansion into space, and bionics that can improve the body to superhuman degrees. That's the future our technology promises us, and I'll give up any amount of humanity to get there. It is going to get worse before it gets better, but I think on a long enough timeline it is inevitable. Clinging to the past is only going to hamper progress and your own ability to adapt and survive.
@@fusionspace175 We can have both, it's just not profitable enough for the owner class
"This is really scary stuff. It's like people don't care. Most people seem to understand the implications well enough, but are just apathetic to what will go down and how it will change all of our lives, and very quickly at that."
while i believe people not careing is true to some extend, i think the bigger picture is WHY people dont care. personally, i think that can be largely boiled down to 2 things (outside of genuine apathy and self centeredness): tiredness and overstimulation.
with all the buzwords, bad news, and advertizments the average person gets on a daily basis, the human mind (consuiously and subconsciuosly) wasnt meant to handle all of this. theres a point where a person just goes into autopilot whether they realize or not, and overtime this overstimulation just becomes draining. im sure there many people who are aware of whats going on, but dont have the energy to delve deeper into this, or need to prioritize moreso with whats going on in thier lives (bills, food, family, jobs, ect.).
the best we can do is spread the word, but not to condem others for not immediately acting
(and yes i notice my the bad grammar, too tired to fix it)
Agree with what you say. Although, even youtube is not very useful now. Search is completely useless and suggestions only ever propose videos that I have already seen or videos unrelated to the one I am watching. I miss the youtube of 2008-2014
ugh, i hate what the world did to AI. Tools that can be used to change the world, save lives, spread true, reliable, information was turned into propaganda, life destroying, spam-making machines.
There needs to be a library of the internet like the British Library. Save all the pages and convert to pdf format. I used to admin a large forum, saw the writing on the wall, and saved a big chunk of it. It can be done if people have the will and the time. It's a huge task, but if want to save the information, it has to be done.
The Way Back Machine
@@SocietalDefibrilation It only gives a snapshot, not a total backup.
I know Kiwifarms users are rather thorough about archiving stuff on their site. As controversial as the site is, it shows that it can be done.
The site has been banned from The Way Back Machine since a while back though, so there is that.
@@Jules_Pew Tf are you on about? Wayback does a total backup.
@@Bruh-zx2mc You're lucky if you get 2 pages of a thread in a forum. No it doesn't.
This may all end up being a positive development. IMO by far the biggest threat to the Internet has been the wholesale consolidation of traffic in the hands of sites run by massive corporations. If their greed makes them eat themselves why stop them?
Never interrupt your enemy while they're making a mistake.
issue is thats not what happens this argument has been made for many company's the issue is once there the only big option what are you gonna do spend 10$ extra for a better product look for hours for the hidden product most people wont most people will live with it and even if we go to the hidden forums or what ever the normal people will stay at the surface your work will stay at the surface everyone outside of the community that looks for the small pockets will be at the surface
@@Bruce_Games???????
@@heartnsoulintodeglocc9975 i rabled sorry it was like 3am
Because the cleanup afterwards will hurt - and not just the companies. But you're right, in the long run, a purge could be for the best. It's like surgery. It sucks, but it lead to things getting better.
In the early 2000s, searching for stuff on Google and stumbling upon weird creative websites with videos, images, GIFs, etc, was the equivalent to today's infinite feed scroll of Facebook, Twitter or TikTok. I'd spend hours searching keywords and browsing the unknown. I miss the time when we wouldn't be bombarded by ads and fake content.
I hate this. I'm terminal, and was supposed to have died in 2020. Although I'm still here, my brain tumor will eventually begin to grow and spread. My daughter is young, and I would love for her to have access to my accounts in ten years when she's 18. Most of the sites probably won't even exist by then. And the ones that will still exist will probably remove all comments and remove the ability to leave any new comments at once. Looking at you, UA-cam. I still don't see what the point of removing the ability to dislike a video was.
the removal of the dislike button was solely because companies that made youtube money didn't like it when they got publicly visible feedback for their garbage products.
We are all terminal, in the end.
@@andybaldman
Congrats. That's the dumbest response I've heard to me saying I'm dying I've ever heard, and I've heard a lot of dumb responses over the past four and a half years. 👍
Look up a grade IV GBM and let me know if you'd like to trade positions. I'll gladly take your unknown future death over one that is imminent and terrifying. Then I won't have to leave my baby girl without her dad. We may all die, but living with a ticking time bomb in your head for four and a half years is a nightmare I wouldn't wish on anyone. This tumor was supposed to have killed me in 2020. I can't describe the toll this has taken on me, emotionally and psychologically.
There are plenty of people going through a similar hell as I've been going through. For their sake, please don't ever respond to someone saying they have a terminal illness with something as asinine as, "We're all terminal." I promise you that it's not as profound as it must have sounded to you.
@@WordUnheard You can call it dumb. But that doesn't make it any less true. My comment was intended to highlight the fact that time and life is finite for all of us. Comfortability, for those who have it, is an illusion. All we can all do is accept and make peace with our fate, and make the most of what we have, regardless of how long or short.
@@andybaldman still just insanely out of pocket and rude lmao that was a dick response regardless of how true you may think it is
This is no longer the information age.
We are living in a real life cyperpunk society.
The deletion of stuff uploaded to the internet is a loss to mankind.
I was wondering why searching on Google has become more of a chore lately
To be honest I think there's a light at the end of the tunnel. Eventually these corporations are going to push things too far and even the most basic Internet users are going to reject these mainstream websites. We've already received a taste of it with the failure of NFTs and the metaverse, so there is at least a little bit of hope left.
I was originally motivated to continue using twitter and reddit (mainly due to addictions), but now im pretty turned away from them. With the protests and the number of users leaving, using them now just feels like scraping the bottom of the barrel. It's been dreadful to watch much of the internet that I've been using and enjoying starting to wither but it will at least give me an opportunity to focus on other things in life.
we're at the final stage of the shittification cycle, eventually better alternatives will pop up. once everything is dead communities will still form and make something better.
People called me crazy when I said that I keep on saving a lot of different data to my own hard drives in case the internet goes down. I have seen this possibility happen since the dawn of internet and I hate being right about it.
I guess these companies really just want piracy to become the only way for people to share news, information and data from here on out.
It should be not only stored, but also shared.
Otherwise it makes not much sense.
some people call me 'old fashioned' (i'm genZ, literally what?) for even just knowing how to download data onto external drives. relying on a streaming service or company for anything i want to experience or keep doesn't sit right with me anymore. anything i own can be taken away, anything i like can be deleted. downloading all the stuff i want has been a bit grating but it's a much better experience than dealing with ads every 10 seconds, having to be connected to the internet all the time, having to deal with sudden deletions and paywalls, etc. plus alot of the stuff i like is niche, so if it ever becomes lost media i can easily share it with others instead of being sad that something i loved is gone.
i genuinely hope piracy and other things like it become common knowledge, it's given me ways to encounter and enjoy art in cool ways and reuse my old tech.
@@sinzones3909 Aye, this is literally the current situation in all media, especially streaming services.
Rational people have always been called crazy. :(
I was just downvoted into oblivion on Reddit like 2 months ago for saying I download everything in case the internet disappears. Just realized the irony there.
This was a well thought out and well made video. I think the problem is too many people rely on the convenience of other entities owning their data. I think the future of the internet could be better if it is more decentralized and open. Let's go back to forums and RSS feeds. Let's take our data back.
The problem there is that centralisation /is/ convenient. People want convenience. Need convenience.
@@vylbird8014 well, with modern design ideas, we can solve this. Since there will be no profit incentives in this utopia, people WILL tell others the commonly asked questions and commonly stated answers, the other good sites, whether or not it's a bad site because the only incentive is the person behind the other screen. People can make folders, personal folders, of what they like - I already have some in my bookmarks bar. Instead of having one forum and subtopics, have many forums with many subtopics! Convenience doesn't go further than one click or hotkey and you're there already!
Data is being used as a moat around big tech companies and I do believe data ownership is anti-competitive in nature. As an advocate for a free market I can’t argue with the future of the internet not being inclusive. Also enjoyed your take on futurism, great content.
So, a weird and genuine question from a dirty lefty that heavily favors regulation, but curiosity compels me.
What's your take on your free market advocate peers, and as a clearly very separate question, what is your take on the Invisible Hand style free market absolutists that seem to worship at Elon's feet for eight dollars a month?
Hmmm, perhaps I should have put quotation marks around, "absolutists," lol.
The free market is how we run into messes like this, guy.
@@mechanomics2649 The "free" market which is heavily controlled by neoliberal maniacs who think history was over in 1992. We need to get rid of capitalism.
@@mechanomics2649there is no free market under capitalism, AFAICT, because a truly free market would not have investors, oligopolies, and regulatory capture, but capitalism necessarily produces these things.
What some companies are doing to inactive accounts goes completely against my ideology. I think most information is worth to be accessible. In this point in time, we could store and preserve whatever we want for a really long time, yet we are destroying things, mostly trash but also some important things for people: Family photos, information on a really specific topic, general opinions on something that happened ten years ago. I mean I understand why companies can't store literally anything, but the methods they're using are a bit too much.
You omitted the fact that search operators, like excluding words with the minus sign, for example, have been quietly removed from pretty much all search engines on the internet, bar none. This makes the experience of searching the internet even worse than has already been talked about.
I knew it!
They were never implemented in Duck Duck Go, I don't think. I asked for them early on, and got a reply saying it would be a good idea and easy to implement, but they never worked.
@@eekee6034 DuckDuckGo's the worst offender. Absolutely no search operators except for exact phrase, but it doesn't work half the time. And even on Google, they've become more of a suggestion that may or may not be ignored by the search algorithm. It's so infuriating!
@@Damariobros Yeah. I'm not happy with Duck Duck Go anymore, but I use image search a lot and none of the search engines I'd like to use seem to have it. DDG's image search has got really bad though.
The company that created a platform called Google+ now restricts using punctuation marks in searches.
The irony.
Software companies try not to ruin absolutely everything challenge (impossible)
The user is the reason for the site to exist, people were paramount in the early days of the net. But now, site operators are aware that we are no longer visitors of the internet, we have made it our home.
The user is not the customer, though. The customer is the advertising service. The user is just the product.
@@vylbird8014 how ever the advertiser is buying this product in the hope that it becomes a customer for whoever they are advertising for unfortunately for them they all got so greedy with wanting our attention that we deliberately shun them if ads had remained on the sides of the page and not overtaking the content they were intended to shown with then adblock would never have been made
@@erubianwarlord8208 This is what I was talking about. No website will make money if nobody visits them.
"Users have power and human shape the world"
Haha AI
Relying on mainstream sites and government interference have been the downfall of the internet. I remember going to websites my friends told me about and using whatever foul language I want.
Now, everything's monitored and coersed into compliance.
these days i get surprised when people do swear online
I am cautious but exited for this development. We, the users, are the one thing truly free in the internet. It is nothing more than a protocol after all. Users were here before I was born. Reddit is a good source of information because it is truly user-generated and curated. Google used to be helpful because it directed you towards users.
Internet was always a community library. Calling it a town square is deceptive, as you aren’t required to build a town square, you just show up.
Community library is something that depends on the users participating to exist. We are not only responsible for typing information and opinions, or recording videos and audio. We have to build the bookshelves, donate the books, keep tabs on who loans what, and as a collective pay up for the rent or property.
In my view, the first step is to personally curate the websites you visit, and share that information with others. Easiest way to participate is being helpful to others, and giving them relevant links. Be there before google, or when google fails. Encourage people to do the same. Because to make information useful, you need one person to write it, and 100 people to suggest it.
Ultimately sharing useful information is something companies struggle to beat users at, because users share information for the sake of sharing it.
What should i look for a site when i curate it?
Will humans be able to shape the world, and by extension, the internet, in a world where AI can pretend to be human, jump any barrier of humanity proof, and do the shaping on a scale more massive and complicated than we could ever match?
Nah man we’re all fucked just gotta try our best to adapt
The following quote by Erica Jong comes to mind:
“In a society in which everything is for sale, in which deals and auctions make the biggest news, doing it for love is the only remaining liberty.... Do it for love and the rich will envy no one more than you. In a world of tuxedos, the naked man is king. In a world of bookkeepers with spreadsheets, the one who gives it away without counting the cost is God.”
Don't know if or how that fits in exactly with the point you are making in the video, but for me, the internet is a convenient tool to explore and experience art that I might never have had the opportunity to find otherwise, as well as a place for me to display my art, something that, in this world of cut-throat commerce, is increasingly impossible. As long as those options are available to me, the larger trends of making money MAKING MONEY M A K I N G M O N E Y don't matter to me. But, of course, as with everything, that is what is "ruining" the internet and leading to its "end."
More and more the "dead internet theory" is feeling like a prophesy.
Honestly, I never expected to go down this path, and I really hate this path. I hope something good happens or else things are going to be very grim for the future.
We all played ourselves with our sci-fi, futurist fantasy. Believing we were living in the same worlds that we read about and watched on TV.
After everything is said and done, we remain in the real world where bad greedy people will do anything to hoard as much as they can.
People used to dog on digital pirates, then those streaming services literally removed and made inaccessible so many shows! To this day can't get them!
Unless you were a pirate of course.
Same with internet archive, Gutenberg, nothing is safe and never believe it is, man!
If there's something i can guarantee to you is that using AI to search things on the internet is not gonna help
If the algorithm that google been developing since the start struggles to show me a picture of a car i want to buy, don't think the AI is gonna fair much better.
AI existed ten years ago. It was something else, and much more shit. People thought it wasn't worth taking seriously.
AI from ten years from now might be something else, much less shit. And we will anticipate it by not taking it seriously.
@@nielskorpel8860 ai isnt bad i love how some people use it for, its just stupid corps push it so much and do stupid stuff with it
Removal of all archived media is like the burning of many libraries with the last copies of books which is why we lost a lot of history.
With how reddit is headed currently they will get in trouble with EU in like a week or die before that week.
The fact that twitter did not completely collapse after musk messed around with it makes me think reddit will just keep going.
@@elio7610 it will stay alive but become a terrible place
reddit is definitely not dying anytime soon lol.
@@DanteLikesRock oh it is
Reddit, Twitter and Facebook have all come to blows with the EU due to their lax attitudes to safety, privacy and suchlike. Musk's Bird Website especially over the last six tumultuous months!
Reminds me of what happened in Cyberpunk 2077, in the "The Great fragmentation occured in the 2020s when coporation took over the net and started removing knowledge and shit like that, then it crashed, only what remained emerged, whatever that shit meant"
Ha! Sometimes, sci-fi manages to be spot-on!
ironic..
The internet has ceased to be run by historians and is instead run by frivolous money-hungry CEOs. Unfortunate.
Anyone else notice that more streaming services are now hosting content made and owned by other companies with streaming services, even if they're no longer offering it? Getting real confusing, and in some ways these streaming services now reminds me of the premium cable channels in days of old... But as for throwing away content? some probably deserve it, but I predict a cycle of bringing back for a limited time every decade or 2 like Disney use to do in the VHS days...
This channel is going places, glad I found it.
facts
Same
But think about that: the very thing this video is complaining about: greed ruining everything, could be the very thing that ruins it one day, if it is indeed "going places."
This channel is just SunnyV2 with a different name
The internet tanked for me by around the early to mid 2010s. Social media did most of the killing. I only go online these day to check my email, browse some news and watch a few videos in here, that’s it.
We have to push back against these negative, anti-human, anti-free and open Internet trends and work together collaboratively and individually to create a free and open future and defend the Internet's ethos of free and open access to information. This is invaluable and we cannot let it go up in flames. Whether it is lobbying for pro-Internet policies, creating our own homegrown hubs of content, or working together to resist anti-Internet changes to policy, we must defend the principles of freeness, openness, and collaboration that keep the Internet free.
We must
Is a reason the internet does not exist in any sci-fi settings.
Haha! Great point :)
I created this youtube channel in 2005 and I can agree with this video. The internet has taken a 180 degree angle when it comes for useful information or hanging out with friends online, it has become a place for corporations to juice money out of the user's bank account. Honestly this was a good watch and I liked and subscribed.
"I created this youtube channel in 2005" ... 🤓
@@hw9 very nice fellow youtube veteran!
The internet is not special, it's like every other thing that was created and we loved. When companies realized that humans enjoy a thing, they find a way to profit off it, and eventually that nullifies the reasons we enjoyed it to begin with.
I've had Internet access my whole life. I'm 22. At this point 99% of searches I make are with "reddit" at the end. Otherwise I just get articles that I scroll in 3 seconds and they don't contain any answer. If Adblockers stop working I'll probably start going to dark net or just a physical library. Current state of the Internet is so exhausting that I wouldn't mind if it soon imploded. We should start building a decentralized net, I guess.
if i have to search for a problem then i search for it and some results just send me to a reddit post where a guy had the exact same problem, and another person knowing a good amount on it and how to fix it
if it doesnt link me to reddit right away then i start adding "reddit" at the end
I remember back when my parents would say "what you do or say on the internet was forever"
But really its whatever you pick or choose with a big enough wallet
I've not even gotten 4 minutes into the video, but you've already summarized my thoughts perfectly. Can't stress enough that the tech industry is getting desperate, they're literally trend chasing like youtube "influencers". Neither blockchain, metaverse, crypto, VR, AR, nor AI are real futures, they're novelty items, Web 3.0 was a disastrous idea and has thus far only backfired and seen failure. The tech industry is absolutely hemorrhaging funds, resources, and innovation in a way that can't be properly quantified. From what I've seen thus far, ironically, Apple seems best positioned in the tech industry, and only because of their ridiculous brand loyalty, and the fact that they still produce actual items. Companies like Facebook and Twitter are in their death throes, UA-cam and other Google products are nearly in the exact same area, but have become effectively too big to fail given how central they are to the internet's existence in its current form. Microsoft is losing marketshare in a way simply never before seen by the company, from 95% PC marketshare in the late 2000s to now under 70%, having dipped into the low 60s previously. I think the tech collapse is around the corner, the dominoes are in place.
it’s sad that i had to learn coding just to be able to use the internet like i used to, i didn’t value my privacy and paid for their subscriptions but when it makes my user experience worse it makes me wonder why i’m even using their product. Competitors always get shut down by these mega corps and it feels like our irl life is becoming cyberpunk 2077. there isn’t anything about the internet that’s useful, the only thing i see is discord servers that you should get into and keep in touch with as many people as possible because that will be the only way to get information. Search engines are dead, Chrome is a terrible browser, we’ve been sent back 20 years.
Googles already deleted my Google Voice while I was in the hospital from a stroke. My debit card was almost impossible to access because I didn't have my phone which I couldn't access my money to replace (and they litterally blocked calls from phone #'s not associated with an account). Discord banned my cell phone # but won't say why or allow me to appeal, and many things are blocked w/o a registered phone# to your account. Amazon Prime Wouldn't let me login with a new device w/o a sms verification even though 2FA is off, but they will allow multiple accounts that use the same email address to login...
I'm very sorry to hear that. I've never associated my phone number with any account, and I encourage everyone else to take the same line.
Piracy is ironically going to become the only way to watch streamed shows as Corps. remove them from their services.
Piracy isn't a pricing problem it's a service problem.
Time for decentralized internet is here. Torrents, Mastodon, Lemmy, Linux.
Lemmy?
@@reisen_udongein_inaba_ @kwya Lemmy is an open source and decentralized alternative to Reddit. It's grown quite a bit since the things the CEO did during the blackout.
let's not forget bluesky ;)
I will say this, AIM and Yahoo Webmail never deleted accounts, and there were so many forgotten and bot generated logins it was almost impossible to guess something unused no matter how random it seemed. Given Googles history though, I expect deleted accounts will always have a backup somewhere only the company can access, and the chance to quietly claim an account name that people can remember and spell but would otherwise never be used again, we'll still have to snipe but I like that aspect. BTW google, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE LIVE COUNTER OF CONSTANTLY (slowly) GETTING MORE FREE STORAGE SPACE, WHILE YOU KEPT TELLING US NEVER DELETE ANY EMAIL?!
Personal websites will make their return in 2024. Mark my words.
Unfortunately I doubt it. Those who are technically (and time wise) capable are already doing so and there will be no incentive for anyone else to start - even the temptation of adwords from a decade ago is gone since noone pays for advertising any more.
It wont be if we don't left behind this mindset of generating "content" to "monetize". Also, compared to the 2000s, there are very few secure free hosting services
@@Peb02497 Neocities is one, but you have to write html, and Gen Alpha and most of Gen Z is too stupid to.
It’s already happening in 🌽, OF people hosting their own links, and there’s the old adage in tech that where 🌽 goes, the mainstream follows (RIP laserdisc)
@@SocietalDefibrilation That's actually quite interesting, are they hosting their own vids/pics do you know or just linking back to OF from a separate site?
This could be solved (in the US) if we had a government that wasn't either too stupid or too afraid of losing campaign cash to act by regulating and forcing existing laws on anti-trust to be enforced. It seems companies can move way quicker to consolidate (like in streaming) than regulators who are underfunded and demonized by the right can act to slow it down. It's much harder to break up a company than it is to stop a merger. All this behavior is clearly due to market power. Streaming services would not be burying content if they thought people would cancel and go elsewhere. Thing is, there isn't anywhere else to go. I've said it before...but you get the government you vote for, and if you don't vote these issues they think you don't care about them.
Pretty sure any big corporation hates regulators unless they get special treatment. Also pretty sure any politician or lobbyist will do the same and demonize something whenever it doesn’t suit their agenda. Also, we’re living in a corporatized world, where massive corporations have incredible power over governments and nations, alongside the financial institutions that are backing them. If you go deep enough into the conspiracy rabbit hole, it might be the next (or current) world order. If the current government and political parties didn’t already get loads of funding from the same companies that want to monopolize, then maybe they would be more serious about anti-trust law, but I don’t see that happening without a serious shift or event. Very blatant conflict of interest.
any idea of society collectively doing something to better itself is naive and optimistic. in reality, people are far too incompetent, lazy and “can’t be bothered” with the details. the fact that “TLDR” is a regular saying is proof in the pudding. people just don’t care about details anymore. the reason why that is can be up for debate but it’s likely due to the “busy” culture we have adopted. people are too busy or don’t want to stand out from the crowd or don’t want to be ridiculed for being “different” and this creates a feedback loop of people doing what the rich elite do. who doesnt want to live like them anyway, right? the mentality of being “trendy” is way to popular (ironically) so believing people, especially the next generations, would ever get off their asses as a collective is just a pipe dream
Voting won't fix this issue.
@@axeslinger94 The ballot failed. Time for the bullet.
Wow it's almost like democracy was a mistake and we shouldn't have taken each-other's guns away.