At the time hair metal was killing the charts. Discharge wanted some of that mainstream success but for such a radical departure from their established sound they probably should have changed the name of the band.
I think in hindsight this metal/rock ‘n’ roll style would’ve worked a lot better if Cal didn’t find the need to use king diamond type vocals. He could’ve used just a slightly different vocal delivery (to his early punk roots), and I just think it would’ve worked better.
@@JohnnyangelNIU If you listen to Massacre divine and shooting up the world he did such course correction. Sounds more like a mixture of his original growling vocals and his high-pitched vocal style.
I saw them on this tour - my favorite band, playing the Ritz in NY? Hell yeah! That was until they came out with bright pink, metal looking guitars and Cal prancing around the stage like a prima Donna bitch. They got booed off the stage and a bunch of people (I think HR was involved) threw trash cans on the stage and such. We left quickly. Now, watching this, I think that maybe we were too quick to judge.
Yea yea, I was there, Ritz NYC. COC, DRI, then Discharge. The singer was spinning around and all that. Fans hated it instantly. They didn't pass as a metal act, what they were going for. It was cringe. If they played with other hair style bands, they had a chance. But the singer couldn't sing this type of metal, it was weak and wimpy sounding. There's an album out of the show and parts from San Fran called Discharge-The east-west live Dis-aster LP.
That's a cool story, Paul. I think you guys were, but tolerance wasn't a virtue like today lol. Your perspective is definitely the zeitgeist of that time.
Yo, I thought you guys were talking about "HR" as in "human resources" like the club wasn't even about it lol Edit: And for future reference it's HR the man from the band the Bad Brains.
@@kaihunlu2345 I read about that after researching this for myself. I can totally understand that sentiment of yours. That must have been quite the experience to witness that first hand. If they didn't have their background and played this it wouldn't have been so much if an issue, but oh-boy did they really do something that is peculiar.
Some of the comments on here loving this shit!! This is on pile of badly played glam horseshit…. Saw them plenty of times during the early 80’s when they were at their best, but Cal’s falsetto vocals?? Please… 😂😂😂😂😂
I would really like to know what the fuck they were thinking with the Glam/Brave New World shit. Did they sell out to try to make a bunch of money? Were they truly inspired by the Sunset Strip scene and just had to be a part of it? They went WAY too far into hair metal, it might have worked if the change wasn't so abrupt.
While punks where crossing over to thrash, some bands wanted to ride the Glam Metal wagon. Celtic Frost is guilty of it too, but I dont think it sucked as bad as discharge. Even TSOL flirted with some hard rock in the late 80s albums.
Oni64 Yup, I remember, I was there, buying records and seeing shows. Celtic was at least already Metal and kind of experimental, so while it sucked, it didn't seem that strange. But to go from political Punk to bad Glam Rock is just a drastic change. I actually like some of Discharge's later Metal records, like Shootin" up The World. When I was a teen getting into Punk I had heard about Discharge and how badass they were and was psyched to hear them. Located a cool looking black and silver LP, took it home and heard falsetto vocals and so forth. I didn't get it, didn't understand why people liked Discharge so much, lol. That LP was Grave New World, ruined me for Discharge till I figured out which stuff to listen to years later.
guiltyspark66 The vocals are probably the worse part, if he had used the vocals from the ignorance single, it would have been a much better Grave New World. Shooting up the world was actually pretty good, and massacre divine (except Terror Police) was also tons better than grave new world
It's absolutely tragic given they underpinned the bulk of UK hardcore, we still have the lovely Dick Lucas plodding on with his Citizen Humans, hope isn't lost. :)
Saw this tour at City Gardens in Trenton. I think maybe 10 of us knew they went metal. The rest of the crowd full on rioted. And Discharge rocked through it. I love this record. And I REALLY love when close-minded hardcore shitheads get thrown a curveball.
Just listened to 4 songs from GNW as I never gave it a chance before.... tbh, the music is sub par to decent... but those vocals are probably the worst falsetto ive ever heard. Like, those vocals are so terrible its impressive. Seth Putnam from AxCx does better glam vocals and Im not making a joke here.
it's one of the worst "professional" records I've ever heard full stop, up there with Motley Crue's Generation Swine and Green Day's Father of All MF-ers. like damn, even Having Fun with Elvis on Stage is more entertaining and that album is literally just Mr Presley's stage banter
We've got armadillos in our trousers. It's really quite frightening, the size.
Ron Jeremy boofed Buffy Davis.
What a fucking trainwreck. It's like an episode of the Twilight Zone or something.
+thechurchofevil exactly.
At the time hair metal was killing the charts. Discharge wanted some of that mainstream success but for such a radical departure from their established sound they probably should have changed the name of the band.
Everyone says this era was unexpected but I honestly think they're EP Her Magesty hinted at this drastic change.
Horrific . One monstrous wailing stockpile.
Ron Jeremy skrewed the potter twins.
I used to hate the heavy metal transition/era of discharge but now grave new world has grown one and its am awesome album
I think in hindsight this metal/rock ‘n’ roll style would’ve worked a lot better if Cal didn’t find the need to use king diamond type vocals. He could’ve used just a slightly different vocal delivery (to his early punk roots), and I just think it would’ve worked better.
@@JohnnyangelNIU If you listen to Massacre divine and shooting up the world he did such course correction. Sounds more like a mixture of his original growling vocals and his high-pitched vocal style.
@@shittybooze Both are great albums, that is the vocal style Cal should have used with GNW.
I saw them on this tour - my favorite band, playing the Ritz in NY? Hell yeah! That was until they came out with bright pink, metal looking guitars and Cal prancing around the stage like a prima Donna bitch. They got booed off the stage and a bunch of people (I think HR was involved) threw trash cans on the stage and such. We left quickly. Now, watching this, I think that maybe we were too quick to judge.
Yea yea, I was there, Ritz NYC. COC, DRI, then Discharge. The singer was spinning around and all that. Fans hated it instantly. They didn't pass as a metal act, what they were going for. It was cringe. If they played with other hair style bands, they had a chance. But the singer couldn't sing this type of metal, it was weak and wimpy sounding. There's an album out of the show and parts from San Fran called Discharge-The east-west live Dis-aster LP.
That's a cool story, Paul. I think you guys were, but tolerance wasn't a virtue like today lol. Your perspective is definitely the zeitgeist of that time.
Yo, I thought you guys were talking about "HR" as in "human resources" like the club wasn't even about it lol
Edit: And for future reference it's HR the man from the band the Bad Brains.
No way, bro. Is this the same discharge from the album "Why?"
Yes.
@@kaihunlu2345 damn, that's cringy. Thanks for the response.
I saw them in NY in 86, it didn't go over well at all. 30 seconds in and everyone was throwing stuff. I actually felt bad for them.
@@kaihunlu2345 I read about that after researching this for myself. I can totally understand that sentiment of yours. That must have been quite the experience to witness that first hand. If they didn't have their background and played this it wouldn't have been so much if an issue, but oh-boy did they really do something that is peculiar.
A couple of different members, but the same singer.
Some of the comments on here loving this shit!! This is on pile of badly played glam horseshit…. Saw them plenty of times during the early 80’s when they were at their best, but Cal’s falsetto vocals?? Please… 😂😂😂😂😂
He's got the moves like Jagger. Quite literally. What an...odd...spectacle this is!
I would really like to know what the fuck they were thinking with the Glam/Brave New World shit. Did they sell out to try to make a bunch of money? Were they truly inspired by the Sunset Strip scene and just had to be a part of it? They went WAY too far into hair metal, it might have worked if the change wasn't so abrupt.
While punks where crossing over to thrash, some bands wanted to ride the Glam Metal wagon. Celtic Frost is guilty of it too, but I dont think it sucked as bad as discharge. Even TSOL flirted with some hard rock in the late 80s albums.
Oni64
Yup, I remember, I was there, buying records and seeing shows. Celtic was at least already Metal and kind of experimental, so while it sucked, it didn't seem that strange. But to go from political Punk to bad Glam Rock is just a drastic change. I actually like some of Discharge's later Metal records, like Shootin" up The World. When I was a teen getting into Punk I had heard about Discharge and how badass they were and was psyched to hear them. Located a cool looking black and silver LP, took it home and heard falsetto vocals and so forth. I didn't get it, didn't understand why people liked Discharge so much, lol. That LP was Grave New World, ruined me for Discharge till I figured out which stuff to listen to years later.
guiltyspark66
The vocals are probably the worse part, if he had used the vocals from the ignorance single, it would have been a much better Grave New World. Shooting up the world was actually pretty good, and massacre divine (except Terror Police) was also tons better than grave new world
Was Cal deeply involved with drugs back then? It would explain some things.
Cal thought he was Jim morrison sadly
He had his nards removed to sound this way.
That was sad.
what a shame
Best discharge era ever
ok,even this is "all right"...discharge is bones,tezz,rainy and cal..for me,thats it!
Great, thanks for upload man!! not more videos of that era?
Embarrassing!
It's absolutely tragic given they underpinned the bulk of UK hardcore, we still have the lovely Dick Lucas plodding on with his Citizen Humans, hope isn't lost. :)
@@gavinbuck8130 I know Dick and the gang. They stayed at ours a while back. Subhumans are still gigging...
Saw this tour at City Gardens in Trenton. I think maybe 10 of us knew they went metal. The rest of the crowd full on rioted. And Discharge rocked through it. I love this record. And I REALLY love when close-minded hardcore shitheads get thrown a curveball.
do not do drugs people!
Cool album and era, maybe bizarre but thats what "punk" is all about
Discharge GNW era sucks but this video is great, thnx man
I'd literally go back in time to see this since the posers couldn't handle how amazing this era of the band is lmao
I wouldn’t doubt if people was like what the fuck is this-then ask didn’t these guys have spiky hair or something ha
Discharge live in jn Japan..sorry....I hear that vocalist changed his gender , he become a woman and lives with Limahl from kajagoogoo
UK Mickey Mousecore.
Just listened to 4 songs from GNW as I never gave it a chance before.... tbh, the music is sub par to decent... but those vocals are probably the worst falsetto ive ever heard. Like, those vocals are so terrible its impressive. Seth Putnam from AxCx does better glam vocals and Im not making a joke here.
everyone who hates this era of discharge is a poser, confirmed
if they had dialed the vocals back like three clicks this would have been a no 1 record back in the day
It is spelled with a U . Never forget U
And you haven’t a clue… 😂😂😂😂
@@thematteblack6606 you're funny 😆 🤣 this era sucked
Intellectuals all agree, this shit rips
Shit......!
This is terrible and utterly embarrassing from Discharge.
😂
Grave new world is the worst discharge album I've ever heard
it's one of the worst "professional" records I've ever heard full stop, up there with Motley Crue's Generation Swine and Green Day's Father of All MF-ers. like damn, even Having Fun with Elvis on Stage is more entertaining and that album is literally just Mr Presley's stage banter