Is this monitor worth the price? Viewsonic OLED
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- Опубліковано 20 тра 2024
- Viewsonic sent us the new XG272-2k-OLED monitor for our thoughts... Here is what I thought, and what I think needs work!
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What do you look for in monitors? What is your ABSOLUTE most important feature besides price? With that said, what is the most you are willing to pay for a monitor?
Also, thank you for the call out on my inaccurate claim that 1440p OLEDs are new, that's an important piece of information that I got wrong as I have only been keeping tabs on 4K panels, with that said, I'll have to start paying better attention!
Not willing to pay more than $600 for a monitor as new tech comes out too frequently in recent years prompting pretty promising upgrades to quality and responsiveness. I look for pixel response, sharpness, and color accuracy.
ultra wide. 21:9 or more.
no more than 300€ per.
I used to have 3 of those,
but one died on me
32"/4K/Built-in speakers/white
For me it’s both motion clarity (not just purely refresh rate) and viewing angles and maybe a matt display cause I don’t like glossy screens
@@dazm3754i’ve been watching more of his videos and I actually learned a lot about monitors and what I might need for my use cases
This panel tech is a year old at this point there are 360hz oleds out now for a lower price than this. This product seems to have missed the mark massively and it's disappointing that you are promoting it instead of pointing out how bad of a value it is, I was kind of expecting this to be a cheaper option based on your initial enthusiasm but it's actually just a terrible product all around, if it was $400-500 then it would be worth talking about but it's $900 and MSI has a 360hz for $750 msrp, and the LG version of this with the same panel is going for $730.
Exactly. Makes me question why to continue to follow Jay. Not 2 minutes in and I'm questioning his motivation.
He is getting paid to review it why would he talk too bad about it.
@@sumtincrazy1He didn't get paid to review it, they just sent him the monitor...I think he just doesn't keep up with what is going on in the monitor world and he probably should have done a bit of research before he made this video...
LG direct is actually going as low as $660
To be fair. It's hard to keep up with the display portion of the market. It's moved rapidly over the last 3 or 4 years. Model names and numbers doesn't help with the confusion.
What do you mean one of the earliest 1440p 240hz oled panels on the market? Corsair, Asus and MSI have theirs on the market for almost a full year now and they are very good.
240hz OLED. 😉
@@Broadpaw_FoxYes, oled of course. Out for almost a full year, as i said.
LG is the OLED goat. They done it first.
I bought a 240hz 2k oled 6+ months ago. alittle behind Jay
yeah, I have the LG 27gr95qe (first to market) and got it almost exactly 1 year ago.
The Alienware 27 inch blows this thing out of the water for the same price, it's also doing 360hz.
yep, same with MSI and Asus
For 900 dollars....nice to be rich and wasteful. And alienware customer service is worthless. Not to mention their 500hz is cheaper, 600 bucks. But for the rich we digress.
Was gonna say Alienware makes a 1440p panel, a buddy of mine has one and its amazing
@@noheader Never had an issue with Dell CS when replacing my 34' OLED DWF for burn in. They also give 3 years for burn in issues
@@mr2camyeah I was confused when he said he only knows a few 1440 oled. I have an aw3423dwf. Which is a 3440 by 1440 oled at 165hz. He also said they are locked at 120hz. Mine is 165 like I said and I know they go higher
1440p 360hz OLEDs from Alienware, ASUS, MSI, and Gigabyte have been out for months at this point
My 240Hz 1440 OLED LG is almost a year old now.
I was gonna comment the same thing. I just bought one from MSI.
Same and i paid almost eaxctly the same for a 3440x1440p panel. So a lot bigger than this flat 27 inch jawn@thewickedtim
Also last generation 1440p 240Hz OLEDs from a year ago such as the ASUS PG27, LG....
@@DrBreezeAir How many hours do you have on it?
Had to double take thinking g I clicked an old video. As other have mentioned, there have been multiple 27” 2K Oled monitors over the last year or so.
is this video filmed in 2022?
Why would you think that? it says 2024 on his computer
@@Ladioz because the 240hz lg panel is very old and we have so much more options right now he seemed not to know that
@@Ladioz because he's acting like 240hz 1440p OLED is new, when 360hz 1440p OLED is already out
@@Dreyden12274 Ah ok. Well this is the first time im seeing 1440P OLED. Forgive me, I haven't been up to date with the monitor world
@@lyteness859 jay dont know monitor tech lol
I reviewed the AOC AG276QZD in December, which is a 27" 240 Hz 1440p OLED, and it's just £849 which is highly competitive.
You should do a full desktop setup makeover whether it’s for yourself or someone else, I enjoy those types of videos and would like to see your version.
Keep it up Jay, I’ve learned so much from you that I began building my first ever pc with a budget of 4k and was very impressed on results, I hope others take advice from you as much as I did! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
4k?....4k? Wow....wish I could live in that reality
Yeah but it cost me 2 years to save up for it
Definitely worth it
Just save up money bro its not that hard@@noheader
@dompost5694 exactly what I told him but for some reason my comment got deleted 🫤
Jay a lot of your opening talking points and your read on OLED monitor technology is about a year behind. I had to double check if this was an older video or not. 1440p/240hz OLED at 27" was a huge release in 2023 with both WOLED and QD-OLED variants from more than just Corsair and LG.
Looking forward for the rest of 2024 and early 2025, 2023's 1440p/240hz OLED spec got a price drop and we're seeing more 360hz/4k options moving forward, along with newer QDOLED/WOLED panels.
I've fallen out of PC Building after 10 years. The past 4 years have just been disappointing pricing for products with disappinting products and I don't see that stopping anytime soon. I've gotten bored and fed up with this entire industry. I love the content though and will always continue to watch and support you.
The Alienware DWF is Oled and 1440, VESA mount, 34". You forget Alienware exists Jay?
I am using 2 24" panels, but also have used 2 27" at the office. The 2 27" setup was ideal for work where I had to rely upon high definition of multiple data sources, and plenty of copying and transfer done manually. I believe this set up would also be great for coding where one monitor is mainly the dev side monitor and the other is testing the app, and maintaining your Git repository
The panel is not edge to edge due to pixel shifting so if there is burn in ever happening, it will smooth the burn over an area rather than a static pixel row
I have a 6 year old monitor that has smaller bezels than that thing...I think it's possible to have larger bezels and still look good, but the way they built this one just looks terrible to me...
I with you Jay, I have two 42" LG monitors that I purchased early days of Covid and they are awesome.
I personally own 2 Viewsonic Elite monitors. I've had them for a little over 2 years and my experience with them has made me never want to buy another Viewsonic product ever again. I had to RMA them at least 6 times, maybe more, and the issues were never resolved.
Viewsonic in the 90s was reaaaally good at monitors
yes and then they did what they did, nothing.
It still is, at least when it comes to the enthusiast models
It's only of those.brands they wore good before dell came along, kingsington and Sony too.
I had a curved 144 hz 144pp viewsonic and it died before the 1 year mark
Into the early 2000s the best monitors were Sony, Mitsubishi, and ViewSonic
Was just unboxing one of their models from 2003 while watching this
at this point jay is more of a mascot than a reviewer earliest oled monitor is this video taken last year
Fortunately there is Tim from HW Unboxed / Monitors Unboxed with great reviews.
I've been using the Samsung G8 34" ultrawide curved OLED and absolutely love it...upgraded from the Odyssey G27 Curved.....can't wait until someone finally does a 34" 4K 240hz ultrawide curved monitor..then it will be perfect!
I just setup my brother with a Samsung G8 and it looks amazing...My bro doesn't know much about tech so I setup all his stuff for him...The only thing I didn't really like about it was the stand...It wobbles like crazy! I'm gonna have to get a wall mount for him, because any time he moves the mouse the whole screen shakes...I did like that it has menus like a samsung tv though
I'm excited about this product, not because it looks good, because I definitely think it can be done better, but because I've wanted this for a long time as a 1440p enjoyer, and this gives me hope that a good one will come out.
Umm. This 27" 1440p 240Hz W-OLED panel has been out in multiple OLED monitors for well over a year now (LG, ASUS, Corsair, Acer, AOC, KTC, Cooler Master...). Funny how you present it like it's something new or not so widely available. LG has actually released an even newer refresh of it already and has a 480Hz model on the way. Also, 360Hz QD-OLEDs are out.
Yep, im actively using the MSI 360 QDOled, which is stunning. I had to double check to make sure this video wasnt a re-upload or was from last year or something.
Yah this Viewsonic monitor seems kind of pointless. The same panel is available in cheaper monitors (the LG one is like $650), and for $100 cheaper you can get one of the 1440p360hz QD-OLEDs which are mostly a direct upgrade. For $50 more you can also get the 4k240HZ QD-OLEDs
You need to understand what sponsored content is, it needs to make the product look as good as possible to deceive the viewer into wanting it.
@@Wheels35same
Yea im rocking the LG 1440 oled 240hz rn off of Amazon
The "little dimples" in the screen may be infrared detectors for the wireless remote. Mayhaps
You should do a video showcasing your favorite chassis/cases, you know the ones that just stand out for the little quality of life perks and unique features.
I have an LG: 27GR95QE. It's crazy how good value some of these new panels are. Love the addition of USB C type connectors.
I actually got that Corsair 45" after watching your review video, going on 5 months of ownership and it's been absolutely amazing. Glad to see other manufacturers are starting to get into the OLED game. I know burn in is a concern but if other manufactures pick up Corsair and LG's retention systems, I think we'll start seeing a boom of these.
Nice box looks like They got it at Walgreens.
I have a 1440p LG 32" IPS 165HZ i paid 525 (cad) for it when it was on sale. IMO in my current set up 32" is perfection. The way i have my windows setup it adds "productivity". I can't complain, I love it and in about ten years time i'll finally make the jump to 4K
We have the same monitor, Not sure how long you have had yours, but I got mine 2 years ago during a black Friday sale for $135 USD
@@NatesHomeTours I got mine also about 2 years ago. Was waiting for a while for a good deal.
Holy smokes jay is getting big!
I have the alienware dwf and love its size and performance. Gen 2 oled looks good but I don't think it justifies upgrading what I currently have
I Always hide the task bar... it's so much better.
Thanks man
Vertical positioning is also good for working with documents, and it's a good place to keep your terminal open.
Hide the taskbar when not being used 😊
Excellent Video Jay - I have an HP Omen Transcend 2024 and it has a 1440p OLED 2880x1800 Total game changer!
I found when using a tv as a monitor to get the best response you need to turn off all the "TV" features, anything that uses the TVs onboard processing power will increase lag, things like white balance and hue even make a difference imo...
I was really excited at the beginning of the video thinking this would be my plunge to oled, but I was expecting it to be a little cheaper. And if I'm spending that much on a monitor, it better be basically flawless.
I got ViewSonic 32" 120 hertz 1440 monitor, which was not curved to begin with. I left it near the window which is a sun spot and it is now curved outwards. Picture is brilliant. I have two iiyama monitors which I am currently using, which tilt and turn round vertically. Though don't see the need for that. I think ViewSonic should try to up the size of this monitor to at least 32", as it may lesson the bezel.
If they make a 32 inch panel I would consider buying one.
27" monitor is the perfect average size. Its the medium most of us love. Especially up close to your face.
Just remember when she says it's average and just the right size... that's a nice way of her saying it's small 😂
I bought a 32" for my first gaming monitor and ended up returning it because it was just too big...I ended up getting 27" and it is perfect for my desk size and viewing distance...A 32" screen may be better if you have a really deep desk, but I found it very overwhelming...I guess I prefer to to sit closer to a smaller screen than to sit further away from a bigger screen
Too small but you may be use to hearing that 😮
@@brucepreston3927😂
I'm definitely in the market for a 1440p OLED monitor. Thank you for doing this review. I will keep waiting and watching for other panels to see what peaks my interest enough for me to buy.
I just don't have a need for 4K when I'm sitting this close to the screen. And I'd rather up the quality then sacrifice it for 4K.
Piques
I like that 1440p OLED is now a thing for gaming monitors I just hope more brands get on board so we get a good range of choice as I feel this will be where I go for my next monitor but personally I would want 32 inches
Has all the specs i would love, minus one. The price.
I am happy to see its on its way though.
I very much cheaped out on a monitor when building my computer. Lots of ghosting haha.
To clarify something:
Input lag or latency on a TV is not good unless using certain modes or settings including auto low latency modes.
This is not related to pixel response time. Every OLED has a sub 1ms response time which is what is being advertised as a 0.2ms response time while some companies market nanosecond response times for OLEDs. This is not latency. There will still be processing resulting in probably around 8-16 ms click to photon latency. This is the same for all digital displays, while a very low pixel response timer reduces motion blur and improves motion clarity.
I’m very curious about the videos showing that brightness adds input lag lmao, I love jay but man his tv knowledge is not exactly Rtings haha
@@Absolutjeff I know, right? I finished writing my comment and went back to the video before he said that... I wasn't sure what to say when I heard it beyond "uh... wut?"
I'm running two 27" screens. The big debate I'm having in our house is what the next monitors will be. 32"? 4K? OLED? Ultrawide? Those big boy 40" TVs as a monitor?
Or just push on with these?
hhmm.
4k 1000 Hz incoming
if 240 is enough, 4k is also no step-up unless for pubg, but even there stairsteps are not gone
I was excited at this at the beginning. But then definitely mid by midpoint.
I am sure (I have not looked), but I would bet a lot of people must have mentioned the KTC 27 Inch OLED Gaming Monitor, QHD 2560 x 1440, 240Hz, 0.03ms, Type-C 65W, KVM, Built-in Speakers, G-SYNC & FreeSync, HDMI2.0, DisplayPort1.4, USB-C 3.0, G27P6. I purchased this monitor in Nov 20, 2023 for exactly $599.99. It is also a great monitor (though there is a bit newer version). While I know you are showing a different version (and I guess they are all different), it is good to see there may be lower price models for those of us that are retired but still love to game. Thanks so much for you shows!!!!!
KTC is definietly something i would recommend people on budget look at, i don't know about oled but a friend got a 27" mini led with that hdr 10+ sticker and it's a very good monitor and it's cost was really laughable for what it offers.
@@Adrian-is6qn You should really look into KTC. They are the original manufacturer for may brands of monitors. That is why the low cost. They have cut out a middleman. Their service may not be as good since they are usually selling to other businesses (B2B). But who does have good service anymore. I spent a couple hours the night I bought my monitor just doing research on KTC. It was really impressive.
You can expect less bells and whistles, but you can certainly expect a quality piece of equipment.
I went with the Alienware AW2725DF QD-OLED 1440p 360hz. This thing is just gorgeous and not like some other manufacturers, it’s able to update its firmware lol. It also comes calibrated out of the box with a calibration report.
You know that new Cougar case you just reviewed?! This would look AWESOME with a build in it along with a white keyboard and mouse!!!
Or vertical for coding love that setup. I want to go back to at least one 24" monitor.
I have been looking at OLED monitors for the past week. Weighing the pros and cons to decide whether I really NEED one or not. I play a lot of space based and exploration based games. So, the black levels really do it for me, but I am still undecided.
I love OLED for gaming.
Though I opted for the G9 OLED for that extra immersion.
But once you calibrate the OLED for HDR, it's a game changer. Makes a huge difference (as long as the game's implementation of HDR is good).
Does Jay really not follow monitors? This is no were near the first 2k oled monitor to come out. There has been a new model coming out from some company since at least January. /Facepalm.
Nice monitor!
Yeah, like samsung and LG main OLED monitors have been 2k for the past 2 years. Contrary, it has been really hard to get 4K, at least in 32" or smaller format.
This is almost perfect for what I'm looking to pick up this year. I want speakers built in for when I'm casually youtubing, as a comfort thing, so that's the main potential downside to me (there's not a lot of nice looking panels, with decent speakers, and high refresh rates).
The best gaming monitor is still a high end CRT (with 0.20mm phosphor size, if it's 0.24mm, 1440p or similar resolutions will look blurry). That hasn't changed.
I remember my first 17” monitor. Of course it was a CRT so it was huge!
I have a TV now that is 4K 10bit 144Hz over HDMI and it works completely fine. It makes a great monitor.
4K 32" OLED is my next monitor. Currently have a 2K 27" LCD 144hz
Seeing how sharp the UFO image is at 240Hz, I instantly went "I want this!" That's the sharpest moving image I've ever seen on any screen, it's insane. I also like the white casing, and no "red because gamer" bullshit. The bezel is kinda annoying tho, but I imagine you'll get used to it pretty quickly and won't ever notice it again
Cool to see more OLEDs, even faster ones. I wonder about BFI many lack that. Though I'm waiting to see that 4K DFR Asus one.
Has Jay travelled back in time? There are a number of 240hz WOLEDs now...
good. 240hz for 3-4 years now. can't hear the number anymore neither see it.
eye sickness sometimes, cause it is good, but in fact it isn't. and in a shooter you do look closely. i wish a software update could do 480 out of the aw 34" 4k 240 that i have by the time
For Linux users, the vertical space could be used with a compositor which groups windows together; the music player could still be on top, but the windows being grouped together enables a compositor's parent for the few applications which would benefit from a vertical display, without needing to manage the window from your window list panel component.
For viewers of Action Retro, _yes_ the way Haiku's BeOS-inspired title bar works would also be stellar.
7:06 That little cup looks like it could store the remote.
is that base stable enough? just saying person might bump into the table / desk or what you have it on. feet on it look small
When you're windows is in darkmode also the taskbar is there less a problem with burnin or does the brightness dosen't matter?
7:40 - Oled sheets in factory are designed to be cut at larger sizes for big TVs and have minimum waste , if the factory desire to cut small screen size ( rare case because small oleds are not mainstream atm so they dont produce sheets exclusive for small screens) they waste to much material so smaller sizes oled panels are cost more compare to bigger ones ( inch to cost ratio)
Specs seems good. Function seems good. Looks for the sides? Okay. But so 900$ I’d be looking for something around that strength but something I like to look at.
Looks cool, but I am so used to my 34" Ultrawide I could never go smaller!
My 42 inch LG C2 Oled 4k TV I meaured 2.5 ms input lag with a time sleuth lag measure device. That is basically zero. About 1/7 of 1 frame at 120 hz
Got the LG27GS95 oled coming from Best Buy open box excellent for about $600 after cash back reward. Can't go wrong with that. 3rd gen w-oled 1440p 240hx hdr400 black whatever that means
For 1440p, 27" feels like just the right size. 32" is a little large. 32" is the smallest I think 4K screens should come in.
$800 is entirely too much money for a monitor.
Seems like Frodo its gonna have a new top one monitor for games now.
I liike the design and the color. white monitor is going to be my next monitor 😀
27" 1440p is the sweet spot. Waiting for lower prices and one of this will be mine
Ktc has one as well not a famously known brand but from my use case good quality I have a 1440 mini led monitor from them and it's really good
It may not be this exact panel but now i know i want a 1440p OLED
get 4k 😊 if money already in hand
This monitor is ACTUALLY only 190 nits typical brightness (Max 100% windows size brightness)...and PEAK 450 nits (for a very small window size box for the 450 nit peak brightness)....just to ensure that info gets out there. Also, it does have only 1 OLED care feature that is not listed in any documentation...and only confirmed by Viewsonic itself via email ... it is: "As far as OLED saving features, the XG272-2K-OLED does have a pixel maintenance function that activates when the monitor is powered down that runs for 10 minutes, after which it will shut off completely."
Viewsonic also confirmed that it also has the following: "The monitor will also have an auto dimming function that activates after detecting a set period of inactivity (5-10 minutes) to preserve the panel. Once activity is detected, the monitor will resume at full brightness. " Hope this helps!
Doing dual 48in LG C1 with a 32in MSI 321URX. Even the 32 seemed tiny when I first setup.
this could be really great. smaller lower res oled screens are needed because not everyone has an unlimited budget to drive those high res high refresh rate screens like me. the screen itself is to expensive though. i would just get a 4k screen at that point
“If you have skipping and ghosting, it means your panel sucks at both” 😂😂
a 27" in portrait mode works well as a secondary monitor when using a 40-42" 4K OLED tv as a monitor. The height is about the same and so is the pixel density.
Maybe this Viewsonic will get to live next to an LG tv soon.
I remember when I was a teenager and a monitor bigger than 20" was huge.
Slimmer panel/stand would be nice desk space is rather limited for most.
Here in Brazil we have a 1440p OLED from Dell under Alienware brand, but its a curved ultra wide.
Agree completely, 27" is a little on the small side, would prefer a 32" 1440p myself. Haven't owned a Viewsonic since my 19" monitors.
Viewsonic 19" crt running at 1024x768 85hz. Driven by 1050ti, utilizing a basic Walmart administration vga adapter. And Jay I finally agreed with you about an visual cue. The bezel thing would indeed annoy me
My Samsung LC32G7 a few years back cost the same amount. I really wanted OLED but there was nothing available. This is still a SOLID monitor but boy would I like to upgrade to OLED
I still use a Samsung Syncmaster 955DF 19 inch CRT monitor, can reach 1856x1344 res. OLEDs still can't match that motion clarity, for colors QD OLEDs are just as accurate or AMOLEDs.
LG OLEDs with WOLED tech have issues with warm colors.
I have a Samsung g4 odyssey. It’s a 27 inch 1080p FHD monitor. 1ms response time and 240hertz refresh rate . With adaptive refresh and g-sync the screen is buttery smooth and fast. And more then serves the purpose I needed it for. It’s an HDR panel but its color accuracy isn’t that great. But good enough for me!
Not looking to buy a monitor any time soon. Waiting for the price on the g9 to go down.
27" is also great... for side panels next to a 34"
Very similiar to the OMEN 34c. Nice.
I'll keep my 42in 120hz LG C3 Oled TV. Cost the same, and it's 4k. Very happy with my purchase.
Edit> Just found out that Blur Busters have actually verified this monitor, it may actually be the first OLED monitor to get that Blur Busters badge (a massive deal and if they have verified it, that means it's good), interesting, it's such a shame then that it uses ABL and is matted, otherwise this may have been the best OLED gaming monitor releases so far, what a shame.
Viewsonic could have stood out from the crowd with their OLED gaming monitor and shipped it with their amazing PureXP strobing tech, which is one of the few Blur Busters approved motion clarity methods so far, BFI is great though, but not on par with PureXP, such a missed op as PureXP is what makes Viewsonic displays special, this is just a very sub-par PPI OLED display with software driven BFI (so not even hardware accelerated BFI).
What are the USB ports used for?
Haven’t seen a full G-sync OLED panel yet. I’m assuming that OLED can’t get the picture quality standards good enough to be certified?
I still use my Viewsonic VG2021m monitor from 2006.
I agree with Jay, the screen should be at least closer to edge. I also think they should lose the speakers, I don't get it why it's on a monitor any way since most people will either have a headset or just a seperate speakers any way. Although 27 inch is nice, I personally would prefer a 32 inch too.
Stuck with huge price.
Indeed and that's both to procure the screen, and then run it too
Im on 1440p with my 7800XT so i am listening even if not replacing fairly new screen.
@jayztwocents could you give me your opinion on the MSI G274QPX? It was my first 2k monitor, and I got it for less than $300.
I want to upgrade to 4k once I go from 3060ti to a 40 series card. Any recommendations on a 4k monitor are greatly appreciated. Thanks for the awesome videos!