210116 Guillows FW 190 Build and Flight
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Nostalgia build of Guillows kit #502, a 16.5" span FW-190. This was the first stick-and-tissue model I built as a kid in the mid-1970s. A new friend recently gave me a partially-built 502 kit - I decided to have a little fun and see what I could do with it. Finish is printed tissue, chalked with white on the back to brighten up the colors. It came out heavy (32g without motor, ~40g flying weight), but it flies much better than the one I built as a kid!
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Wow, I never believed these kits were actually made to be flyable. I figured people just hung them from their ceilings. Bravo for completing the build beautifully and recording the flights.
They "can" fly pretty well, but his sure is an above-average example of performance I've seen. The old hobbyshop owner who was a master mentioned something to the effect that replica warplanes were something everyone's drawn to when making a flying model, but he always encouraged beginners to decide which was their bigger interest, something that actually flies good versus something that is historically interesting, and just build warplanes for show, and if you wanna actually fly (worth a dang) build the more mundane Cessna style craft with the high wings.
They were very flyable in this size range, but if they were larger and with fixed landing gear, then flights were brief with little climbing power; however, many of these larger models can now be outfitted with small electric motors, then you can watch as it flies out of sight to the point that it is gone forever!
This brought back a LOT of memories! I mainly build plastic models, now (I'm 62.) But after watching this, I'm definitely going to put building a kit like this on my bucket-list. (I've got the Guillows Hawker Hurricane in my stash, somewhere.) And that pre-printed tissue covering is a definite improvement, as was replacing the vacuformed cowling with balsa. But despite the added weight, those flights were nothing less than impressive!
Thanks for posting this!
Would love to see a video on the technique for the covering! Gorgeous model!
Second that request. Superb build and first flight. 👍
Yes,same here…don’t have to ‘back’ the tissue to print on it ?…cheers from Manchester,UK ! (I’m gonna do a conversion to electric on one)
@@joelfildes5544 i wondered the same thing. Figure it's awfully thin and flimsy to go through a printer.
Not a video, but the basic steps for printing on tissue are covered here: www.parmodels.com/printing-on-tissue-paper.html
@@joelfildes5544Hi, How are you planning to convert this model to electric power? Thank you
Man this brings me back. Nothing tested my and taught me patience more than building and skinning these Guillows kits. Good work sir!
Like you, I built this kit back in the seventies as my first stick and tissue airplane. I built a lot since then, but I remember that one. I didn't have much money back then so I had to buy the cheapest one I could, and it was the FW-190. I recently went to Guillow's website to see if they still sold it, and was absolutely gobsmacked when I saw the price on it. They want $50 for that kit now! Wow! So much for a nostalgic rebuild.
Yeah - As a kid I remember getting the Guillow's catalog and buying various models for a few bucks each. Such a fun hobby!
It 50 dollars for the large size, the model shown in video only cost 25
That is just sweet, Mike. I've built that thing about 6 times and it never flew like that. Imagine what you could do with some contest balsa!! Thanks for posting. -Dan
Man, that printed tissue really pops with good lighting - looks incredible. Flies great as far as I'm concerned - a Butcher Bird is supposed to be fast!
I didnt even knew these kits could fly so well and long. Good job on the paint job
I built that one in about ‘75. I had no skills but it flew quite well in spite being crooked and covered in blobs of glue!
Guillows would be pleased with your build. Beautiful model.
Nice build an flight. I built one last year from a die cut kit, zero modifications built out of the box. I won the Facebook Guillows challenge with a flight over 20 seconds on a few hundred winds. These are fun kits and will fly, just don't expect to win a contest.
Says the winner of a contest. lol, congratulations on the win
I built one of these in the 70's. Great model.
Beautiful build. Nice to see someone that still appreciates Guillows kits and knows how to transform them for better flight. Keep making video's and build follows.
Wow, beautiful model! You did a great job! Looks like you have a wonderful flyer on your hands! Wonderful to watch, thanks for sharing!
thanks for all
the work that went into making this vid!!!
Beautiful model.
That's wonderful! I built a lot of those Guillows kits in the 1960s... I didn't know how to make them fly very well at all. Thank you for showing how it's done!
Nicely done.
Loved Guillows kits (still have a dozen or so in the boxes up in the attic waiting to be built with a future grand-kid), though building them light enough to fly as well as Golden age reproductions or Diels or Bell kits was always a challenge. Best thing about them was their ease of build and the fact that they seldom required a de-thermalizer. Taught me how to handle balsa, read plans, and cover in tissue though...
Haha ... when the engine sound came in .. and that straight head after the 1000t first left curve . c'est magnifique :)
Fantastic job with this model!
That is amazing. The one I built as a kid would never do more than 100' and that was me on my grandma's roof with a straight descending glide. Bravo!
Mike, this same kit was my very first engine-powered flying scale model. 1967-68, something like that. So I was in my mid-50s. ;-)
Either a Cox TeeDee .010 or PeeWee .020.
4,738 lbs of insane-OCD cockpit detail (copper wire in there, rudder pedals, parking brake, you name it!), and 14 gallons of Pactra Aerogloss sand & spinach camo. My very practical brother Arthur teases me about the overkill to this day.
So, once we got the engine to start, she lumbered skyward in what very quickly became a galloping downward arc to the sunburnt/sunbaked rock-hard earth of Sepulveda Basin, Van Nuys, sunny California.
A boom echoed through the San Fernando Valley, the terra firma shook, but the Focke-Wulf remained in one piece. Cockpit detail intact.
The Tao of My Oddball Madness thereby begun.
Great story John - it's amazing how that Guillows iron wood can bounce! Mmmm - the sweet smell of Aerogloss...
That is a most remarkable build. Using the skin from the IL-2 sim (???) is something I hadn't even imagined. Really inspiring; thanks, and what a great little flyer!
Beautiful! I used to build these balsa fliers as a kid. Had a couple of friends who did the same. We were considered a bit off by the other kids, but I didn't care. LOVED my little hobby - and the FW190 was my FAVORITE of all time! Thanks so much for this trip down memory lane! : D
It was great fun as a kid, and I think even more fun now. I jumped back into the hobby around 2016 after retiring and have made some great friends and had great times flying since then. There's a lot to be said for spending time on simple craftsmanship...
Good looking and good flying - almost a Guillows commercial! Great job - thank you for sharing!
Awesome build!!
BEAUTIFUL!
Heavy as all guillow models are but it looks to fly nice.
Echoing the response below, please think about sharing your covering techniques... Just Wow!
Thank you
Steve probelski
Fabulous……..a work of art and a flier. Loved it
I recognize that airfield! Great looking build and flight. Thanks for the video.
Great result there must have been very satisfying. The printed tissue was something I only discovered recently and it gives much better results on tissue than painting and decals. Many thanks for posting very inspriational.
Wow!! I've never seen such a detail wooden airplane! I thought I was exploring new territory but you've been there and excelled!! Gorgeous build.
Wow it glides so nicely!
I have built loads of balsa planes! The best flying plane I ever did was a Guillows "Spirit of St Lewis". That plane was just wonderful in the flying department.
Ever build a Gallows Hang Man kit?
Nice flight! The paint job looks great too
Great idea using a printout on paper for the skin!
I built a couple of Guillow Grummans (a Hellcat and and Avenger) in middle school in the early 1980s for an aeronautics class they offered. It was so fun!
A beautiful model, well done, thanks for sharing!
nice job on the plane and flight. i built quite a few guillows kits as a boy in the early 60's. i never had good luck with the rubber power because the planes ended up being too heavy so we would put small cox motors on them to fly with control line or freeflight or use them as a static display on a desk or hung from my bedroom ceiling. the last one i remember making was a japenese zero.
Really beautiful build! I've put together a few Guillow's kits over the years (I have several unfinished ones sitting in boxes, too). I would never have the guts to actually free-fly one after building it, though. Watching all that work auger in after a slight gust of wind would make me cry.
Man! If i could build a guillows like that I'd never fly but hang it in a place of honor. Thx for upload.
and they said the guillow kits couldn't fly. great job!
Beautiful. I would love to see it with some micro RC gear.
SKippy's RC Conversions.....he RC,s this type of model👍🤗
Outstanding!! Yes it's a fine line between prop thrust and elevator trim. Well done mate.
Amazing build! Sure looks a lot better than models I built back in the 70's! Flies a lot better too.
Nice build!
I have one of these kits that I picked up at Goodwill’s however it is missing some pieces, fortunately, the local book store carries a complete stock of balsa.
I plan to build mine for electric RC instead of rubber band power, which would require some additional modifications, fortunately, these kits are now suitable for radio control with the micro RC receivers and servos.
I will try printing directly onto the tissue like you did for this model, or else, I may use Mylar instead.
When I was young, I used to build these kits, but was disappointed that there were no radio control equipment suitable for them, now there are many options for RC flight.
Beautiful build!
Happy flying!!
Thank you for posting this video!
Please have an excellent and awesome day!
✨☀️🛩
Excellent job
Thats an awesome build and flights. Peaceful. Good job.
Just gorgeous! The most beautifully flown rubber-powered model I've ever seen. Congratulations! Would be interested to see what you can do with a Guillows' Albatros D-Va biplane.
Thanks! No intent to do the Albatros anytime soon, but I've printed out the plans and been thinking through a build of the Guillows' Halblerstadt CL.II.
Heck of a nice flyer. And, in my view, any Guillows kit is improved by eliminating the vacu-formed components and making them out of balsa. You really made a great plane out of a rather mediocre kit if built as intended by the company.
Whats with the plastic?
Your past self is proud of you for putting the original blisters on!
I would love to see how the graphics were done. It looks so good.👍 subbed.
My brother and i built many of these great models growing up a mile from the Guillows plant in wakefield massaachusetts in our 60s now the 4th of july always claimed a few......
Beautiful, and a nice realistic colour scheme too, it reminds me of the days before radio control when aeromodellers really had to know their stuff to trim models to fly hands-off..:)
PS- Regarding how many turns to put on the rubber, I once overdid it and the fuselage collapsed with a crunch under the pressure..:)
This video randomly popped up in my recommended, and I'm extremely fortunate for that! Completely different from the plastic revell models I've built since I was a toddler. Shame I didn't hear of Guillow's earlier, but seeing how these kits are still in production since the 1950's, they must be good to have survived natural selection! I'm converting mine to RC. Could you please release the pdf document of the skins? I would love to use it on my build, as I don't have any paints.
I'm soon to be off to college, and won't be able to bring my any of my big RC planes with me. This fw-190, however, will be perfect to bring!
Amazing,congrats.
nice job! I have the similar P-40 warhawk, nearly 40 years old now. Flew it once or two some 40 years ago, never been brave enough to fly it again.
Oh the nostalgia this gives me. But my free flight Guillows models never flew - until LiPo + brushless. I made a Guillows P-40 of the same size, but that one weighed 150 grams and did approximately 150 km/h during a high speed dive, so that's a whole different beast. But I love what you did and how well you got it working. Wish I'd had the same success as a kid.
Incredible model!
Amazing covering work.
Genius idea of using game skins. Brilliant!
you make it look easy.
well done
Guys who can make Guillows kits fly good on rubber power are the true magic wizards of model building.
I always wondered how Guillows managed to gene-splice balsa trees and tungsten together and come up with balsa wood that's harder and denser than concrete.
stunning paint job
Fabulous job with covering and markings, wish I could do that!
Pretty good maiden day, Mike!
Thanks Craig - it went well. Still need to coax a better glide out of it, but I came home a happy camper.
Man amazing job on the model!
Excellent!
Very nice!
Very well done sir.
Sweet ride man. I built one of these but never even thought about trying to fly it. I know it'd go straight into the ground oh man
Beautiful build!
when i was a kid I built the spad new port 17 spitfire corsair spitfire hellcat unfortunately i didn't have the funds to make them radio control but they flew well with the rubber bands
Hi Michael. Thank you for saving that little guy. What a great video and she flies fantastic. I'm just starting on the Guillows Hellcat. Built the same model as a kid and it flew for about 10 seconds. Lol. So I need to learn to trim these little guys. Any advice you can give me? I would love for my Hellcat to fly even half as long as yours did. Thanks Bob
Hi Bob - best advice I can give you is to join the Flying Aces Club (flyingacesclub.com/). Great people who live and breathe free flight, nice newsletter with plans, tips and event news every other month. Full archive of older club newsletters and tech tips available on their website. Recently they've been running articles on improving some of the Guillows kits. Website calendar has nationwide schedule of meets. Well worth your time to attend one - ask and you'll get lots of friendly tips and suggestions. Made a huge difference in how my models fly and vastly improved my enjoyment of the hobby.
Looks Great!
Awesome build !!!! I bet it would do great with one of these micro electric motors in there maybe a channel for ailerons
that is Cool
I made a few Guillows kits when I was younger, but I could never get any of them to fly worth a damn.
excellent work. My first model was a guillow fw190 almost 28 years ago. two days ago I bought this kit again. Would you provide me with the tissue printing design? I would appreciate. congratulations master.
Did you ever get it done ?
@@gregorydahl No.
I would like to see a video on how you created the printed tissue. Beautiful job!
Those little ones do seem to fly fast. It's primarily a matter of wing loading. Also, such small, scale wings (and early FW-190s have very small wings proportionately) and small control surfaces yield little to no effective aerodynamic damping making trim and stability always a problem. "Twitchy" is the term often used to describe small, scale models' flight characteristics. Still, they're economic to build and look great in your hand, or on a shelf. However, in the air... Not my cup of tea.
The classic Guilows and Sterling kits are temptingly excellent-looking scale models with great plans. The problem with them is that the wood supplied is too heavy and too thick in many instances and, as they were originally meant to be built by kids whose dear little hands are not usually subtle, delicate, or overly coordinated they were intentionally structurally over-designed. However, this makes the smaller ones far too heavy for flight unless powered with very powerful rubber motors which make them fly at jet-like speeds as we see here. Also, they do not glide. When the rubber has unwound, those necessarily big propellors drag them down like speed brakes and they just fall.
Fortunately, there are many ways to lighten them without sacrificing structural integrity. I know you need a strong fuselage to bear the stress of a big tightly wound rubber motor, but a rolled balsa or cardboard motor tube, carbon fiber reinforcement, and other such devices could take the place of an overly heavy fuselage structure. The challenge to make the Guillows, etc., kits fly well is an interesting one and will probably continue to be popular. I mean, they really do resonate strongly with our youthful days, don't they?
I have the guillow stuka from that series in the box still . I opened it of course .
I was going to just build it with 1/16 th making a bare minimum outline and bent strips of the 132nd balsa for ribs . And fly it indoors or drop it from a rc quadcopter .
for me the difficult part would be coping the colored tissue...beautiful work!
Wow!
Printed tissue!!!!???? That's a game changer!
I believe this kit was also the first one I built back in the mid 60's.
Fascinating. 🇦🇺👍🍺🍺
the butcher bird was my favourite ( built the vernon kit)
Does anyone know what the correct pronunciation of Guillows is? One guys on YT says gwee - low - z which sounds wrong to me. I have also heard: gill - low - z which sounds better to me. Anyone know for sure?
In this video you can hear how the company president pronounces it: ua-cam.com/video/S9BY0CF3KrM/v-deo.html
Hi Mickael, very nice this Focke- Wulf. Can you tell me how the free propeller mechanism works and how the spinner is hanging on please ? Alan
Beautiful realistic 3D fuselage ! How did you wind the rubber band to exact torque ?
That s nice :)
Thank you! I built many Guillow's kits as a kid, at ~$6.00 a pop. Most hung from the ceiling and looked good, the couple I tried to fly, just didn't work. And what did you use for that realistic pilot?
Thanks - pilot is just an image from the internet, printed out and glue-sticked to a bit of balsa sheet.
Very nice, what do you mean when you say chalked the backside of the tissue?
I rubbed white PanPastel chalk powder onto the back side of the tissue. It makes the tissue more opaque and brightens up the printed graphics.
@@michaelkelly7338 hello Michael, fantastic job on this model! did you add the chalk before or after printing and did you “seal” the chalk?
@@funscalemodels9782 Chalk goes on after printing (don't want that stuff in the printer). The chalk is on the inside of the tissue, so I don't seal it, just chalk, apply the tissue, then either brush on thinned dope or spray the exterior with Krylon clear lacquer. This model got the Krylon.
I built that kit in the 80s as a kid......that and the avenger is what made me quit free flight and go into model cars and trains....the wood was so badly die cut nothing fit together. I had with my Fathers help built a few peanut scale planes built from walt mooney kits and his plans in model builder that worked really good, those Guillows kits were awful for keeping my intrest in the hobby......that and model cars and trains dont typically self destruct in crashes lol
do u think it would be possible to skin it using veneers rather than paper/dope ?
Hey Michael great video. I just purchased this plane. Where can I get this printed tissue?
You can't buy it - you have to make it. I adapted graphics from a flight simulator skin to fit the model, then printed it onto the tissue. There are a number of skins here: forum.il2sturmovik.com/forum/91-skins-and-templates/
Surprised to see that the frame holds up after so many landings - do you eventually have to repair/rebuild wings, cowling, etc?
It's pretty stout. I've popped the wing off once or twice and the plastic spinner got cracked, but the airframe has held together nicely. Flew it several times last month.
Great job! Can I ask you how do you achieve the circular flight of the plane? Thank you.
Mostly by giving the model quite a bit of right thrust - that balances most of the torque from the propeller and motor.
So, how exactly did the marking get printed? And how did you count the turns on the prop? 1000 turns?
See this website for basic instructions to print on tissue: www.parmodels.com/printing-on-tissue-paper.html. I use a 10:1 winder and count by 10s as i wind up the rubber motor.
Great build Mike. How did you anchor the tissue on the fuselage aft of the cowl sheeting?
Thanks Oliver - the side tissue was applied first and runs up onto the cowl sheeting about 1/16". The cowl tissue was applied over that - the chalk does a lot to hide the overlaps. The FW-190 had a pretty smooth transition from cowl to fuselage so you can get away with this.
@@michaelkelly7338 I see. So much fun seeing a 500 series really done to scale, packed with rubber... the Hellcat was my first ever FF scale build and I got an impressive powered glide with that blue rubber. Hope to see it out on the field.
Amazing build Sir! A newbie would like to know what material a gurney flap or trim tab is made from? Thanks for the inspiration!
Usually just a short length of 1/16" square strip stock (leftovers from the kit's stringers work just fine). Tack-glue it to the trailing edge of the surface you're trying to adjust. For more info see the NFFS technical library here (recommend starting with the "gurneyflapinuse" article): www.freeflight.org/betterdocs-search/?n=gurney&cat=565. Lots of other great stuff in that library as you explore more of the hobby (props, rubber, trimming, etc.).
Thank you!