EXCLUSIVE Jonathan Pollard tells all | Wine with Adam
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2023
- In this week's Wine with Adam, host, and CEO of Israel Innovation Fund, Adam Scott Bellos, is joined by ex-spy Jonathan Pollard in an exclusive tell-all interview.
Jonathan Pollard was sentenced to life in prison in 1987 for giving over highly confidential security documents to the Israelis while working for U.S. Naval Intelligence. The length of this sentence had long been protested as too harsh, and in 2015, Jonathan was allowed to go free after 35 years in prison. 5 years later, Pollard and his wife Esther made aliyah to Israel. The discussion takes place over a glass of Kabir Winery's Merlot.
They discuss
- The accusation of dual Loyalty
- The true nature of the Israel/US "special" relationship
- His time in prison
- His late wife Esther
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Wake up, America. They are laughing at you 🤢
Americans should think hard about this relationship.
Yeah think about the 1000 israeli startups in the US and hi-tech essential to american prosperity
A truly amazing interview. Thanks for bringing it to us. It answered a lot of questions. I do wish that the State of Israel would adopt a bit of Mr. Pollard's attitude about what others think.
Please, in many respects Pollard does care what other people think especially to those that tell him what he wants to hear.
One truly great man
I like his answer, “I don’t give a damn”. Perfect answer.
American traitor and spy
I think Adam should drink a little less during the interviews.
lol
fascinating interview, thank you
the guy dude in blue plays it super over the top
So happy he’s free and home!
His relationship with Esther is so similar to the relationship that Rabbi Akiva had with Rachel. Rachel helped make what Rabbi Akiva became and so too Esther with Mr. Pollard.
Kol hakavod Jonathan! We love you!
Are you kidding me? Hero? Who sold his birth country that he gave oath too!!??
He was motivated to help Israel with info he felt was withheld. His handlers made sure to pay him. Would you refuse monthly thousands to do what you already want to do?
Very interesting.
Well, his response over dual loyalty just confirmed the accusation.
This woman was your soulmate.
I had two questions: Who was the JCS Chair Pollard mentioned? And who is the portrait on his wall which can be seen at various times in the upper right hand corner?
The photo in the upper right corner is the late former Israeli Chief Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu ztz"l. He was a big spiritual guide for Jonathan Pollard and helped him greatly.
In minute 6, you were wiping your tears; I really could not see any (repeated this clip several time!); advice: next time use onion; will look more convinvcing!
Maybe he will be the next prime minister
Kabir wine is great
MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here is a recent 2 hour in-depth interview of Pollard conducted by Ari Louis
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During the Irish troubles, many US citizens aided the terrorists, of the IRA. So, why aren't those of Irish descent treated as having dual loyalties? Many Muslims give money to CAIR, and other such groups, that give aid to terrorists. Why aren't they said to have dual loyalties? This screed against Jews, of having dual loyalties, has existed longer than Mr. Pollard, so he is not to blame. Such accusations are nothing more than a product of racism, unaffected by truth.
Are you pretending Jonathan pollard is loyal to America in any way?
And
Cair is an AMERICAN organization.
And the IRA is a legitimate political party.
Just as the PLO and PA are legitimate political parties.
Maybe you should renounce your citizenship as pollard did .
Yeah well Irishmen and Muslims don’t have massively disproportionate control over our financial systems and lobby us to give billions of dollars to Ireland or any Muslim country every year. If they did, I’d be mad about that too.
Deborah, he gave state secrets while working for the government. I think that's a little different to Irish Americans fundraising for the Provos.
Ok but the reality that Pollard got the large sentence because of anti-Semitism. And many organization to helped Jonathan. That is the reality. Casper Weinberger had known issues with Judaism and of course his fathers side was Jewish and the attorney Joseph DiGenova also has shown his anti-Semtiism in recent years promoted various Soros conspiracy theories on fox news and Soros "controlling" the government which of course thoughts like that would lead to someone giving somene a disproportionate sentence. At the same time this is the first time hearing Jonatahan speak and I think he overexaggerates his own importance as of course facing injustice and being in prison of course there were Jews that wanting to help him and other Jews who wanted to "prove' there are loyal Americans by internalizing anti-Semitism but that is what this was about. It is sad that Pollard acts in using his own Martyr status as if he is more important than he really is. He admits his own spying was a minor affair so you can't have it both ways.
That he has shown that Americas love of Israel by some is duplicitous is not worth going to jail for and in fact the irony is Jews in the denomination he wants to associate (which denominationalism in reality is more a reflection of US Judaism then Israeli Judaism) the MO form of Judaism hasn't learned the lesson. They think Trump loves them and he doesn't all because of moving the embassy to West Jerusalem which changed nothing on the ground while he courts various vicious anti-Semites including claiming he didn't know who David Duke was.
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The PLO, PA the IRA, & CAIR are legitimate?
Stating such makes your comment here worthless.
I was shocked no blessing before the wine.
Judge favorably. He probably made one before, off camera.
'Never lose faith' the Jonathan Pollard story should be a Netflix special (with Jewish producers ofcourse)
It would be wonderful reflection to the Jewish diaspora. Pollard admitted shopping his services-successfully, in some cases-to other countries.[2] In 1987, he was sentenced to life in prison for violations of the Espionage Act. Pollard sold the intelligence to anybody for money including Israel. He was just a normal criminal. The Netflix movie should make him out as a normal criminal hiding behind antisemitism. This would lift the heavy feelings of the Jewish diaspora that he did this for his love for Israel. The movie should clearly show he did it for the money
and it definitely shouldn't be a NETFLIX film as the OBAMA's antisemitic anti-AMERICAN thumbprint would be all over it. Produce it for IZZY STREAM!@@everythingandmore5537
She did not pass away from COVID complications. The cause of death was septic shock.
The cause was terminal breast cancer
Personally I think Pollard is more a martyr. He is not a hero but he is also not a traitor and he was very naive when younger and taken advantage by Rafi Eitan (just finished an audiobook of his capture of Eichman and his life) who left him to rot when the truth came out. The truth is as Pollard himself said and Weinberger his matter was a small matter. So even if Pollard gave photo's that America was denying which he had limited access to as a GS-14 (and didn't have access to sensitive docs) and for Israel it is very likely Israel would be able to do this without Americas help regardless to get the same info for themselves and being a lot closer being in the ME and Eitan had other reasons that he wanted to use Pollard far which Pollard didn't go along with him on that but Pollard was naive and taken advantage of. It is terrible that Pollard got a 30 year sentence that really deserved 5 years.
Also I for one don't feel his 2nd wife Esther helped that much. He served 30 years and got parolled after the 30 years so I don't see how she was able to help Pollard get out. And many people feel she was part of the reason Pollard became Paranoid about his family and stopped speaking to them. Stopped speaking to his sister and believed his father was hurting him which it is either her or YI and Rabbi Lerner that did this. This is classic Modern Orthodoxy turning children against their parents to make them become "more religious". For all his talk of loving his fellow Jew he was less so with his own family so in that regard I actually think is a failing on Jonathans part and his late wife of his, and even if they were critical of her as her sister was of Esther, she could have been more diplomatic about it and not tell Jonathan to cut her off to "protect her". And even the Jersualem Post article says about her is that she wasn't someone to cross which in many situations is not a good trait and especially when it comes to family it is not. In fact honoring ones parents is a major obligation in the torah and someone who tries to turn a son against their parents on false pretenses is violating the torah This was reported that people hurt him say that he believed his father was doing things to hurt them and it is utterly not true.
I think now he exaggerates his own importance. He can't have it both ways. If the matter was a small matter then maybe Israel didn't need it as much as Pollard thinks and if the USA didn't supply it Israel was fully capable of getting this info thru other intelligence and especially Israel is much closer to these countries in the ME then the USA is.
And many Jewish Americans do know that some Evangelists love Israel and they want the President to not pressure Israel so they are answering to their constituency even though privately they may not feel that way.
And many did support his cause and did feel he got a disproportionate sentence. Even though they don't see him as a "hero" which that is on Pollard not them. He did get paid for his services and didn't turn it down so that already compromised him although his main motivation was ideological.
It would be nice if he would realize that while he didn't deserve what he got but at the same time if he got what he deserved and 5 years and not these false anti-Semitic claims of him bigging huge spy he would be unknown today if he only served what he deserved since it wasn't such a big matter. He actually benefits the most from being a martyr for his unfair sentence and that is what he should realize not that he is some hero as the person who was his handler had other reason to use him as a spy.
And lastly he makes it out that it is such a big deal that he "exposed" how America is false in their relationship with Israel but that is not worth spying for. This knowledge has come out from other events including the Nixon tapes with Billy Graham. That is not worth spying for to prove someone is double talking. It will come out sooner or later.
Every American shouldvwatch thid interview and discover jow they are really viewed by our "Great Ally."
Fascinating. Thank you. I had no idea that he was a man of such integrity.
You are an example of a dual citizen/ traitor
He betrayed his country. What integrity? He should of faced a firing squad.
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He served his country by betraying America
He probably enlisted with the intent of treason
@@LoudaroundLincoln On the contrary, he did no harm to the US, and provided to an ally somethng the US should have gven them. The State Department is full of people who've done more harm to the US and still have jobs.
Loved the interview
7:55: "Killing was just an everyday event there." "Did you ever kill anyone in prison?" "I certainly wouldn't admit it if I did."
That's all I need to conclude that this guy is either a pathological liar or just plain off his rocker. If there was a federal prison where people were getting killed every day then there would be no way to keep that under wraps. No way did that happen.
To be fair, I think he's just trying to give an entertaining if misleaded answer. But it is true that federal prisons in the US are notoriously bad, understaffed, etc
Also if you listen to the context, you see he means the idea that life is cheap there, and that he could've gotten killed every day ...should he have responded differently yea but hey we can just learn from a guy who spent 30 years inside and take the interview at face value for what it is, but he didn't mean that literally every day that happened
There's no way an out of shape coward like Pollard could kill anyone in prison.
@@goldencalf5144 and he was out of shape way back then too...
He didn't admit or deny. What's the big deal? 'can't speculate anything from no answer
A True Hero!
He certainly does think very highly of his own opinions. Would be interesting to know what his fellow Jews think of the kvetching.
Omg he was a thief, liar, and lived in the lap of luxury while doing so. Why are you glorifying him? 😑
He's a good storyteller. But also makes up stories.
Traitor. Forever.
A hero to the Jewish people and to Israel.
@@Tofaette A traitor to America
@@dannygoldstein1687 america withheld info they were supposed to give Israel...by law.
They betrayed Israel at that time.
Pollard got that info.
@@TheNationofIsrael613what info were they supposed to give to Israel?
Tzadik
Traitor
A great interview; he is a genuine, modern hero of Israel. His loyalty was to G-d and Israel first. As it should be for anyone that calls themselves a Jew. As for dual loyalty, America broke its respect and loyalty to its friend Israel and the Jewish people first on many occasions. Starting with FDR during WW2.
and LBJ, and Carter and Obama and Biden.... mostly DEMS it seems. Yet AMerican Jews still seem to vote for these idiots!!
😂😂😂
A genuine, modern traitor to America. His loyalty was to the thirty pieces of silver that was regularly paid to him to betray his country. The man should be rotting in a Federal prison as I type this.
A little revisionism here. He took $ for his work. Later he became a saint.
He is a traitor
Jonathan Pollard needs to be the next Prime Minister of Israel.
He may possibly be the Messiah himself.
Only a person like him can Israel Today.
It is appalling he was pardoned. He is a traitor, pure and simple
It's appalling that he was in jail much longer, for much less, than other so-called spies.
@@deborahfreedman333
So says the " Jewish news service"
In service to whom?
He wasn't pardoned. And he is a hero of Israel and the Jewish people.
@@Tofaette
A traitor to America
Typical Israeli hero
@@Tofaette and a compulsive liar. It was not just Israel he spied for.
Due to the action of Jonathan Pollard, more and more Americans and others around the world have become very suspicious of Jewish people especially Zionists.
Johnathan Pollard exposed the double standards of the American government against the Jewish people. First the American government hid and refused to give promised information to protect the Jewish people to the Jewish state 2. When Exposed that they failed to do as promised the American government made secret documents when exposed years later it revealed they told the judge that JP did crimes proved to be done by others 3. Thanks to JP American now know the jew is judged differently by the government just as dreyfus proved that to French jew
Bull. The false suspicions against Jews existed longer than the US has existed. Pollard just demonstrated how Jews are held to a higher standard than anyone else,
@@cohenlabe1 I agree with you on the double standards by the US which generally favors Israel. Just take a look at the number of Israeli lobbyists in the US and the special treatment and financial , military aid that Israel receive every year for decades
@@deborahfreedman333 exactly now I know my government is just like any other country not to be trusted and antisemitic
@@Sam-rf4qb never knew Israel was the only government who receives us aid cool. It kind of nice that isreal is fighting the us war in the east and keeping Iran at bay with Israeli blood almost like it's a mutuality beneficial thing 😉