What is the Difference between Ladder Logic and Function Block Diagrams?
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Today you will learn the difference between function block diagrams and ladder logic. Specifically what they are and when do we use them when programming PLCs.
Most PLC manufacturers around the world still support ladder logic programming. However, some have been moving towards function block programming. Let’s take a look at some of the similarities and differences.
Ladder logic is pretty well “the universal programming language” of PLCs.
As I mentioned earlier it has been around for decades and is pretty well understood by most technicians and engineers alike.
It is named Ladder Logic because it quite literally looks like a ladder.
The vertical lines are referred to as the power rails. The horizontal lines that our programming bits are located on are rungs, just like on a ladder. It is read from top to bottom and left to right.
Function block diagrams can essentially convert several lines of ladder logic into boxes.
In the middle of the function block will be a symbol or text, labeling the function block. This will describe the actual function of the block.
There can be one or several inputs and an output for each function block. Those function blocks can be inputs to other function blocks as well.
Just like ladder logic, function block diagrams should be read left to right, top to bottom. In a sense, this format can make it easier for a technician troubleshooting a machine see what is happening to the machine.
Let’s look at an “AND” function block first. If you are unfamiliar with “AND” Logic, it is actually pretty simple.
Basically, you need at least two inputs energized to turn on or energize its output. I like to think of it as you need this input, and, that input to turn on the output.
In ladder logic, it would look like a series circuit like this. In a function block diagram, the entire rung is replaced by this box or block.
Many industrial machine use “AND” logic. A large metal Press Brake uses “AND” logic for its controls. The operator must push two buttons at the same time. This energizes the output of the “AND” logic. This allows the cylinders to be activated and bend the metal.
Another common function used is the “OR” logic function block. This is like the opposite of “AND” logic.
With an “OR” function block, you would energize this input, or, that input to energize the output. In ladder logic, it would look like a parallel circuit like this.
Machines may use “OR” logic when there are more than one set of controls to operate the machine. Conveyor belts can utilize this programming. They will commonly have the “Start” and “Stop” buttons located near the conveyor. They can also have a start and stop button at another location in order to start the conveyor remotely.
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As a junior programmer having done almost a dozen major power plant plc upgrades and program rewrites with my Senoir Process and Automation Engineer, many upgrading from PLC5 to ControlLogix I call Function Block programing Magic Boxes. That’s me and what I call them as to me they work like magic and make a large program work seemingly like magic with the programing inside the block. While I personally have never programmed one, I’ve seen my coworker do so, but more so I understand the power and huge benefit of Block Programing. In many of our company upgrades we’ve done on power plant projects, Function Block programing has meant the difference to our programmer in being able to vastly minimize the amount of programming required, like programing for many pumps etc. He programs and perfects just one pump Function Block and then he duplicate that Block for pump instruction where ever he needs instruction for a pump logic. That cuts down on making mistakes in the instruction logic. If a mistake, he fixes just one time in the Function Block instruction and like magic every other pump with same problem is fixed. That saves an immense amount of programming time. That’s why I call them Magic boxes or Magic Blocks. But that’s just me.
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thanks for this video... now i see how AND and OR compare with PLCs and digital electronics..
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for example a structured text instruction list.
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How can I write a program if X number of motors using function block. Please explain.
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Please answer Hello. I'm want to start my journey in learning motion control I think I just need plc and driver and stepper motor I think I don't need a encoder I wondar that I am right or not
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nice sir,thanks please can you make a video about encoders ?
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Thanks, the video was simple to understand. Do you have any video about Sequential function chart, Structured text and Instruction list? All of those are PLC programming language
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We currently mostly focus on Ladder language. I will happily go ahead and forward that to our course developers as a topic suggestion!
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Hi I want buy Siemens 1200 ac/dc/rly CPU. Wondar that I need a memory card or not
Hi! Basically, you don't have to buy a memory card for the S7-1200 series, because it has a built-in program memory (work memory). But if you want, you can extend the CPU with a memory card, but it's used to store project on that or do a password reset or update the firmware. And be careful, because normal SD cards won't work, only special formatted Siemens cards (and never format these cards from PC, because you'll brick the card!).
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@@zorro4622 thank you
I think they are basically the same, only with the difference in terms of the vision
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step seven in seven steps by c.t.jones
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Is there a way to use function blocks instead ladder logic with s7-300,1200,1500 on tia portal?
Filip Kramarić if im not mistaken, step 7 allowed the user to alternate between ladder logic and other languages such as function block diagram and structured list. So yes, a PLC program MAY be written entirely in a language other than ladder logic
As i know 1200 & 1500 plc support FBD I am not sure about s7 300.
ziborgbe it does.
@@MaNemUmar I have seen that it has some variation of FBD but since I have used LOGO 8! I was wondering if it is possible to use that kind of FBD? The FBD in step 7 is some kind of ladder logic with function blocks which is something I don't personally like. Wish I could program s7 in the LOGO comfort.
when creating an FB, fC or On you have the chose betwin ladder, fbd, and instruction list,
Well explained, thanks for sharing. 🐵
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Please help!!! Does anyone know how to export a Function Block Diargram in Codesys as an XML file and open it on PLC open or simply export it to PLC open? Your help will be much appreciated. Thank you.
Abdulazeem, what CODESYS editor are you using? Typically, the export tool is in the PROJECT menu item or you can do a "save as" and select the file type as Project which saves the file in XML. In the CODESYS 3.5 SP1 editor, you can also select "Export as PLCOpenXML" from the PROJECT menu. Repeat the process at the other device, but use the Import tool.
@@realpars Thank you for your quick response. I use version 2.3. I have tried both methods it wouldn't work. The PROJECT menu has EXPORT as an option but it only saves files as an *EXT file. What I am trying to achieve is to Export the file to a PLC open XML file or if I can covert the Ext file which already has all the FBD program as a PLC open XML file. Your help will be much appreciated. Thank you!
how can i get the software
Hi Gerbraw,
We currently only have the following links to download different versions of STEP7
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Hopefully, that is helpful. Happy learning!
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If you can read ladder, you can read FBD and vice versa. I don't see any advantage to FBD as it generally takes up more screen space to accomplish the same operation.
The volume on the voice fades in and out on each section and it is hard to hear sometimes
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I would still prefer ladder logic over fbd
Exact opposite for me. It's much easier to simulate and visualize functions imo in fbd :)