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  • 10 ways to make your breakdowns even heavier! Hope you enjoy this video, be sure to follow @NikNocturnal channel for tons more heavy riffs.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 370

  • @NikNocturnal
    @NikNocturnal 3 роки тому +1266

    00000000000000000000000000000000000 1

    • @ktakk1
      @ktakk1 3 роки тому +20

      when ur so early that nik's comment still has 10 likes

    • @trecemundos
      @trecemundos 3 роки тому +7

      Thanks Bros! I'm now in Drop D1 (with a=449) in the 7 string guitar
      because I love to have 40hz (D#1 with a=448/449) /science said it's the sound of an eartquake/ and 50hz (G1 with a=448/449) notes
      (check it out in comparation with regular a=440hz E1 (41,2hz) / D#1(38,8hz)
      and G1 (48,9hz) / G#1 (51,9hz) , they sound very insteresting to me). -> instrumt.com/u/generador-de-tonos
      This it's also achievable with 423/424hz but a semitone higher (E1 and G#1).
      But i'm thinking in maybe up or low a semitone (Drop C#1 or D#1).
      It will depend on the "proper" tension for the actual strings.
      And for that maybe I will remove the central spring (muelle en español) of the Floyd Rose for "proper" string tension for Drop tunning. Thoughts? xDD

    • @michalkleban5697
      @michalkleban5697 3 роки тому +2

      FUCK YASS

    • @ktakk1
      @ktakk1 3 роки тому +3

      @layney boy r u jealous that i have fast fingers?

    • @blackspine343
      @blackspine343 3 роки тому +1

      thanks for tab comrade

  • @laurenbabic
    @laurenbabic 3 роки тому +496

    #11) blegh producer pack

    • @BaenaCarcosa
      @BaenaCarcosa  3 роки тому +53

      How could I forget this very important step

    • @erikback3144
      @erikback3144 2 роки тому +5

      Back in 2009-2010 the blegh was a standard i love hearing bands that do that now and pig squeals too

  • @grantbowers2319
    @grantbowers2319 3 роки тому +294

    2020: breakdowns with baena
    2021: *BAEKDOWNS WITH BAENA*

    • @mikeminol
      @mikeminol 3 роки тому +5

      BAEKDOWNS WITH BREANNA

    • @MET4LIST
      @MET4LIST 2 роки тому +2

      2022: BAENA WITH BREAKDOWNS

  • @nmurdock012
    @nmurdock012 3 роки тому +331

    No, my breakdowns suck because I suck at guitar

    • @BaenaCarcosa
      @BaenaCarcosa  3 роки тому +117

      Me too

    • @stevei4860
      @stevei4860 3 роки тому +3

      same.. been learning some periphery songs.. well.. trying ... and let me just say that its tough lol. sick band tho. side note... the guys in that band do not know theory either and that well... youve probably heard their music haha

    • @lichkrieg4898
      @lichkrieg4898 3 роки тому +4

      Honestly it's nothing to do with skill, its more of a writing thing than anything.

    • @kanvolu
      @kanvolu 3 роки тому +2

      @@stevei4860 actually they know a decent amount of music theory

  • @kfury1527
    @kfury1527 3 роки тому +169

    In the words of Nik during his suffering covering Through the Fire and Flames.
    *WE PLAY BREAKDOWNS CAUSE THEY'RE AWESOME!*

  • @BiRDiEHere
    @BiRDiEHere 3 роки тому +96

    *Polymeter*
    Me: cough cough, Meshuggah, cough cough

    • @jessejohnson9321
      @jessejohnson9321 3 роки тому +1

      Why did I hear “cough cough Meshuggah cough cough” as a breakdown

  • @havvot948
    @havvot948 3 роки тому +75

    #1) dissonance #2) dissonance #3) wammy dissonance

    • @BaenaCarcosa
      @BaenaCarcosa  3 роки тому +24

      All the flavors of dissonance are present

  • @holywaffles4950
    @holywaffles4950 3 роки тому +153

    You and Nik are an amazing duo

  • @georgevillegas8685
    @georgevillegas8685 3 роки тому +27

    it’s like his jaw doesn’t move when he talks

    • @yuno3364
      @yuno3364 3 роки тому +1

      might be bells palsy. or he has a dip in his lip

  • @joanbighorn9778
    @joanbighorn9778 3 роки тому +23

    “Early days of metalcore in the 2010’s.”
    Hol up.

  • @areyoujelton
    @areyoujelton 3 роки тому +118

    I had a breakdown today. It wasn’t good.

  • @nolter3078
    @nolter3078 3 роки тому +45

    Wait i thougth this was a joke, but it end up being useful lol

  • @TheSVERguy
    @TheSVERguy 3 роки тому +12

    Bro don’t be scared of releasing tutorials. You make sick music and being open about not know everything under the sun about music theory is refreshing. It inspires me to want to learn more about theory because I know absolutely dick about it.

  • @JCaleb
    @JCaleb 3 роки тому +170

    dang I'm early, better tell a joke...
    Asking Alexandria

  • @brianbaugusmusic
    @brianbaugusmusic 3 роки тому +37

    This is a dope vid. I think if I had to add anything, It would be the production side of it. Adding bass drops, impact snares, reverse snares, samples/sound effects, etc can really turn a boring breakdown into something heavy also.

    • @jessejohnson9321
      @jessejohnson9321 3 роки тому +6

      Samples from pop culture is something that needs to come back lol

    • @beaconx_sxe3193
      @beaconx_sxe3193 2 роки тому +4

      @@jessejohnson9321 i love how new west coast beatdown has started using hip hop samples

  • @ufoufo2788
    @ufoufo2788 3 роки тому +33

    Music theory enthusiast time!
    #1 - That interval is the minor second, and it's technically wrong to call it a chord since it's only two notes! The "panic chord", or simply dissonant intervals are the tritone, major seventh, major ninth, and minor second; and stacking them together makes for some beautiful ugliness! I personally think the minor second gets too much love, we should panic on some other intervals too sometimes :p
    #4 - the best metric modulation imo is going from quarter note time-keeping to dotted eighth note time-keeping, sounds absolutely fucked >:)
    #7 - this is technically also a metric modulation!
    #9 - polymeters are awesome, you nailed the explanation i think
    (#11) - dynamics are key. changing any aspect drastically will always turn heads. Try messing with switching pickups or guitar tones, volume, modulation (pedals), etc.
    The sure fire way to make any breakdown heavy is to make the part before it not-heavy. Dynamics are key

    • @noesunyoutuber7680
      @noesunyoutuber7680 2 роки тому +2

      The minor 9th I believe is what powers The Dillinger Escape Plan's 43% Burnt - it's the _bwahwahwahwahwah_ in the _bwahwahwahwahwah..._ *CHUG CHUG* part.

  • @rob8311
    @rob8311 3 роки тому +69

    "early days of metalcore, 2010" 🤔

    • @bencepatyi4032
      @bencepatyi4032 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah I was surprised when he said that

    • @CDCrest
      @CDCrest 3 роки тому +6

      I think he was referring to the early days of the "modern" iterations of metalcore

    • @carlost1837
      @carlost1837 3 роки тому +8

      More like early 2000’s

    • @namrekcanad
      @namrekcanad 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah i was thinking early 2000s more along the lines of bands like unearth and such rather than of mice and men

    • @namrekcanad
      @namrekcanad 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah youngins..

  • @ShadowFirePictures
    @ShadowFirePictures 3 роки тому +7

    Andrew be like yeah idk how to explain polyrhythms, then gives a perfect explanation of polyrhythms

  • @regretXXXnot
    @regretXXXnot 3 роки тому +10

    Norma Jean will always be the masters of the “panic notes”

  • @GunDrummer
    @GunDrummer 3 роки тому +4

    dude all you gotta do is BANG BANG BANG BOING BOING BOING BLEGHHH PAAAAHHHHHHH ......BBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMM

  • @TamSixx666
    @TamSixx666 3 роки тому

    Honestly I love these kinds of videos. Thank you so much for this!

  • @joelmacy9558
    @joelmacy9558 3 роки тому

    Amazing video man it was super helpful please do more of these types of videos 🤘❤️

  • @feralnomad392
    @feralnomad392 3 роки тому

    Great video man, i've used some of these techniques but I definitely learned some more. Awesome work, you've earned a sub

  • @AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic
    @AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic 3 роки тому +2

    Great video as always, and love seeing the collabs between you two! This was actually pretty helpful, especially to those of us who wanna djent but don't wanna read stuff for hours to figure out how music works 😆

  • @Mike-ok6vy
    @Mike-ok6vy 3 роки тому +1

    Ive only learned from tabs myself and this video really helped me understand so much more about making my own heavy riffs !\m/ thanks man

  • @somebodynobodymusic
    @somebodynobodymusic 3 роки тому +1

    This is a great video man! I'd love to see more. I just started playing a 7 string and using these techniques in drop G is sick!

  • @jmd4free
    @jmd4free 3 роки тому +7

    If you're writing breakdowns the black tongue shirt is a must

  • @PartyChicken407
    @PartyChicken407 3 роки тому

    Thanks for doing this video man. More tutorials would be great but at the minimum, this was excellent. Cheers man.

  • @SimonMedia666
    @SimonMedia666 3 роки тому

    I think that your explanations are very good :) also breakdowns sounds really good and heavy :)

  • @Letorito99
    @Letorito99 3 роки тому

    This was great dude!! Helped a lot

  • @AidenMalacariaMusic
    @AidenMalacariaMusic 3 роки тому +2

    Damn you guys are good at tutorials! Really great explanations and breakdowns!

  • @Duhaktweva
    @Duhaktweva 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for the info . Now to implement them into my practice

  • @jussi-pekkalaakko8768
    @jussi-pekkalaakko8768 3 роки тому +1

    Very informative and clean package. Thanks Andrew and Nick!

  • @JMetalGuitarist
    @JMetalGuitarist 3 роки тому

    I LOVE this video. I already knew about the dissonant half step chords and the whammy pedals but I didn’t know about the downward pitch shift thing. Very cool 😎

  • @rubevanderwielen9323
    @rubevanderwielen9323 5 місяців тому

    Thanks a lot for this one! a lot that i already knew, some other things that i learned, but i gotta say that what i already knew does work (speaking out of experience) and the new things i learned i'm surprised they do actually work!

  • @Wazules
    @Wazules 3 роки тому

    This was awesome, not a lot of tutorials cover breakdowns, cause they are seen as easy and basic, but this is a great way to make them... not easy and basic!

  • @christianmunch7160
    @christianmunch7160 3 роки тому +1

    Very awesome video man!

  • @peeweesermon2231
    @peeweesermon2231 4 місяці тому

    This is so sick dude thank you!

  • @calebschoepske5064
    @calebschoepske5064 3 роки тому +2

    i had no idea you didnt know music theory. ive been trying to write my own music, without any lessons other than youtube so that honestly kind of gives me alot more hope

  • @GunDrummer
    @GunDrummer 3 роки тому +22

    LOLOLOL AT 10:40

  • @Ginger2Rocker
    @Ginger2Rocker 21 день тому

    alternating guitar panning is my absolute favorite. more bands need to do it. my favorite example of this is in TAIM - “Laceration Penetration”

  • @theoriginalemim
    @theoriginalemim 3 роки тому +16

    "since the early days of metalcore, like 2010" Ha.

    • @gnarlyrayjepsen5085
      @gnarlyrayjepsen5085 3 роки тому +3

      children bruh, even my introduction to the genre in 2003 was late

    • @ericchambers6863
      @ericchambers6863 3 роки тому +7

      For real. Panic chords are basically tied to early, early bands like botch, Norma Jean, converge, coelesce, etc

    • @gnarlyrayjepsen5085
      @gnarlyrayjepsen5085 3 роки тому +2

      @@ericchambers6863 fuck you're my bro for those knowledge drops, hydra head really moved the genre forward and I still go back to those records. norma jean took what they were doing and made it marketable

    • @OTTOAUDIO
      @OTTOAUDIO 3 роки тому +2

      Eric Chambers bravo, came here to say this. Minor 2nd chords (panic chords/horror chords etc) go back to Norma Jean ‘bless the martyr’ who heavily mainlined it in the scene 2002-2005, they played like 300 shows a year and every band anywhere began over using it. Then it became cliche and cheese but all the post hardcore bands kept using it and no one noticed it was overdone or stopped doing it. Kids kept coming into the scene fresh blood and had no awareness of this history and here we are today in 2020 still way way overused. Before Norma Jean it was Coalesce Botch Converge then before that Kurt from Converge said he borrowed from Meshuggah who probably was inspired by King Crimson.

  • @invujerry
    @invujerry 3 роки тому

    I love that you linked Ben’s video. Between him and Adam Neely they are able to explain complex ideas somewhat simply.

  • @damachin9180
    @damachin9180 3 роки тому

    Given that I don't know theory myself, everything was explained quite thoroughly. Great video as always!

  • @aether_antares7761
    @aether_antares7761 3 роки тому +5

    Andrew baena: i don’t know much about music theory
    Me, a total guitar bleb: THERE IS HOPE!!!! THERE IS HOPE!!!!
    Thank you for this awesome video! Make more of these video’s they are so help full

  • @Misanthropic-King
    @Misanthropic-King 3 роки тому

    This video was dope thanks dude

  • @funeral7596
    @funeral7596 3 роки тому

    Awesome vid man

  • @jackasmodeus4513
    @jackasmodeus4513 2 роки тому

    I wasn't confused of your explanation of the polymeter technique, we both don't know music theory much lol thanks for this!

  • @mattmendoza2667
    @mattmendoza2667 3 роки тому

    got my subs men your so humble. tnx for the knowledge men kudos

  • @jfd3010
    @jfd3010 3 роки тому +2

    Hi Andrew, great video, greetings from Colombia

  • @LaurierLachance
    @LaurierLachance 3 роки тому

    This is quality content bro 🔥

  • @Wind-nj5xz
    @Wind-nj5xz 3 роки тому +18

    4:08 That's actually syncopation

  • @cisrael468
    @cisrael468 3 роки тому +2

    Yo Andrew has gotten so much better at speaking on camera over the years. Loving the chanel and Carcosa!

  • @alexshoru
    @alexshoru 3 роки тому

    Nice video! Love it!

  • @sampicton22
    @sampicton22 3 роки тому

    Great job!

  • @osc4r_14th
    @osc4r_14th 3 роки тому

    Love you, Baena

  • @marcus2239
    @marcus2239 3 роки тому

    Good vid very in depth 🤘🤘🤘🤘

  • @blakehaas3205
    @blakehaas3205 3 роки тому

    Nik and yourself have helped me become a way better metal guitarist. You guys are true djentleman. 👍

  • @reecewilshire7045
    @reecewilshire7045 3 роки тому +5

    1. Norma Jean does the best panic chords
    2. Disrespect your surroundings is the OG triplet breakdown
    Great vid!

    • @AustinBrake98
      @AustinBrake98 3 роки тому

      Those aren't triplets. The breakdown is done with a technique called gallops which is an eight following two 16th notes. A triplet is 16th notes to each of the 4 beats.

    • @mojolito
      @mojolito Рік тому

      @@AustinBrake98 Your explanation is correct but the song doesn't even use gallops. There are just two strokes per chug

  • @danielczegle1033
    @danielczegle1033 3 роки тому +3

    808 Bass/sub drops make a breakdown heavy af too.

  • @johanndjents5890
    @johanndjents5890 3 роки тому

    That was actually helpful. Thanks :)
    Can you maybe do a tutorial about the pitch shift stuff? Can you recommend any plug-ins that can do that?

  • @jasonday8334
    @jasonday8334 2 роки тому

    Good job 👏

  • @user-pm1xk5vw3u
    @user-pm1xk5vw3u 3 роки тому +2

    Also, make use of augmented 4ths/diminished 5ths (tritones) for dissonance as well!

  • @ChLyricsyt
    @ChLyricsyt 2 роки тому +1

    6:36 this is my favorite type

  • @kadensabourin2571
    @kadensabourin2571 2 роки тому +1

    dude nik should use this drum pack for his own music it sounds so much better than the one he has now. his tone sounds sooo good over that

  • @apoplexiamusic
    @apoplexiamusic 3 роки тому

    so polymeters is basically Meshuggah :D
    thanks for the awesome tips, always insightful and inspiring!

  • @travis8106
    @travis8106 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you king 👑

  • @GuilhermeSouza-cb2pv
    @GuilhermeSouza-cb2pv 3 роки тому +17

    Coool!! Brazil watch u too

  • @ThorsShadow
    @ThorsShadow 3 роки тому +10

    About dissonance: Dissonance isn't defined as a minor second (the interval of 1 half-step). Dissonance is very simply just anything, that doesn't sound melodic or harmonic.
    Best example is the tritone or diminished 5th/augmented 4th. Play a power chord but lower the second note by 1 half-step, i.e playing the open E string and 1st fret of the A string or 7th fret on the D string, 8th fret on the g string and so on. The tritone sounds so dissonant, that it was forbidden to be used in church music in medieval times. It was called "diabolus in musica" (Latin, translated as "the devil in music" I guess).

    • @noesunyoutuber7680
      @noesunyoutuber7680 2 роки тому

      Technically dissonance is a kind of Harmony - it's the opposite of consonance, which is when notes sound nice together.

  • @holgerreinke
    @holgerreinke Рік тому

    Awesome! 👍🏻

  • @dyamicorriveau9677
    @dyamicorriveau9677 3 роки тому

    Ive been watching you and nik for a minute and just realized you were the guitarist for galactic pegasus. Ayyy

  • @jmsilva81
    @jmsilva81 Рік тому

    More vids like this please!

  • @ronburgundy2660
    @ronburgundy2660 3 роки тому

    Into the moat used a lot of poly meters. Very simple to follow once you notice how long one riff is. Specifically the intro song to their first album. Into the Moat - Century II.

  • @xxchugchugxx420
    @xxchugchugxx420 3 роки тому

    Like all your Video's Bro ! Chug Chug For Life =)

  • @guichaky3918
    @guichaky3918 3 роки тому

    The polymeter breakdown was so sick

  • @dylandoge1627
    @dylandoge1627 3 роки тому +5

    “Early metalcore” “2010”

  • @bostonconnorsmullet
    @bostonconnorsmullet 3 роки тому +2

    The most fitting shirt for this video.

  • @Fire-Toolz
    @Fire-Toolz 3 роки тому

    brooooo metalcore bands were using those chords in the late 90s/early 00s!! that’s where attack attack got it from!

  • @RsAndTechno
    @RsAndTechno 6 місяців тому

    5:47 we need more of this

  • @americand0lphin
    @americand0lphin 3 роки тому +7

    Early metalcore days like 2010? What.
    Metalcore started in the 90s my dude.

    • @logansitler7502
      @logansitler7502 3 роки тому +2

      Dude i was just thinking that "brees" were around alot longer before 2010 lol

    • @kubaj8397
      @kubaj8397 3 роки тому

      I'm pretty sure he meant the "edgy kid crabcore"

  • @MatthewAlenius
    @MatthewAlenius 3 роки тому +8

    THIS IS NOT BAKING WITH BAENA

  • @crashbangpow1649
    @crashbangpow1649 3 роки тому

    Would love to hear you guys do a song together because I love both your styles!

  • @jakelee8789
    @jakelee8789 3 роки тому

    Very well explained to those who doesn't know theory. Just another great example that theory isn't necessary to play awesome! Don't get me wrong I love theory but it's just a tool that the skilled uses, And you my friend are skilled!

  • @zacht2375
    @zacht2375 3 роки тому

    That Eclipse is beautifullll

  • @user-O_06660_O
    @user-O_06660_O 2 роки тому +1

    Hey, Andrew!
    BEAUTIFUL SHIRT.

  • @cthallborgtheineffable5583
    @cthallborgtheineffable5583 3 роки тому

    Nik goin' strong showing off those Vildhjarta vibes.

  • @wilson9d71
    @wilson9d71 2 роки тому

    Quality video

  • @cameronblake4372
    @cameronblake4372 10 місяців тому

    I personally don’t like panic chords (they were overused in the 2010s) but you show a lot of cool and fun techniques to try out in writing. Breakdowns can get boring

  • @patfix
    @patfix 3 роки тому

    That Polymeter was actually explained really well. I didn't find it that complicated.

  • @logansitler7502
    @logansitler7502 3 роки тому

    Dont be so nervous bro be confident your good bro...

  • @tfwnoyandere
    @tfwnoyandere 2 роки тому

    8:31 hippity hoppity your breakdown is now my property

  • @blankspace0000
    @blankspace0000 3 роки тому

    Carcosa has fucking sick breakdowns. Paying mad attention to this vid.

  • @Moistwetwave
    @Moistwetwave 3 роки тому

    This is nice to learn from because tbh the last time a learned anything to do with music was public school. It's easy for me to understand when you do it your way lol

    • @Moistwetwave
      @Moistwetwave 3 роки тому

      Veil of Mara? Thanks for showing me these guys. It's hard for me to find bands because I love the hard guitar but there song Aeris is perfect as far as hard screamo and singing. That's the stuff I dig and your guitar slaying is always mind blowing

  • @thetylersherman
    @thetylersherman 3 роки тому +1

    "Syncopation" is what you're looking for for the offbeat drums. The offbeat irregularity makes you want to move your head.

  • @peggykamke9047
    @peggykamke9047 9 місяців тому

    It’s funny how I just realized, after a few years of watching Nik, I have the same picking technique

  • @bikingintokyo
    @bikingintokyo 3 роки тому +9

    It seems like the "offbeat drum one" is more like "accenting specific parts"

    • @SuperMultimitch
      @SuperMultimitch 3 роки тому +1

      i think the technical term is a hemiola, which is a different feel than the tempo. could be wrong, but that’s how i understand it

    • @IslamFalmi
      @IslamFalmi 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah I'm not really a music theory genius but I don't think that really counts as metric modulation

    • @guylumalfaro3176
      @guylumalfaro3176 3 роки тому +1

      if the snare matched every 3rd hit of the cymbal then it would've had a different feel. metric modulation can be very subtle, but most of the time in metal (unless you're OAA) it's a pretty straightforward jarring change in feel. he had the definition right, but the example was kind of meh.

  • @ricksanchezito8972
    @ricksanchezito8972 3 роки тому +1

    Dudeeeeeeeee. I have been wondering how guitarist get those "panic chords". I thought it was some effect, which it kinda is with the whammy, but I thought it was a lot more complicated. Thank you!

  • @SynthChris
    @SynthChris 3 роки тому

    Literally just got that same sign yesterday, it's so sick

  • @Bandguy333415
    @Bandguy333415 3 роки тому

    We called panic chord clash chords back in my day lol.

  • @ZuernJT0612
    @ZuernJT0612 2 роки тому

    Hey, can you please make a video of your recording equipment and how do you do recording?