Vigilantes Unmask Hundreds Of Fake Veterans
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- Опубліковано 18 бер 2016
- An online group of vigilantes who investigate army service records say they've unmasked more than 300 people who have exaggerated or entirely fabricated military service and honours: trib.al/xQzrhWD
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1:59 If he didn't get his green beret then he didn't pass the commando course. Didn't pass the commando course? Not a Royal Marine Commando, simple
That Beret is a recruit Beret.
@@johnmellor932 I didn't need that explained, I'm already well aware. The point is he was claiming to be a royal marine, he even said so himself in the interview. But my point is he never completed the commando course, and never received a green beret. Therefore, he was never, at any point even through training a royal marine commando...
@@jamesw9873 wrong.
@@stevenobrien557 How so?
I’m American and I heard him make his case but it just sounded like a bunch of bullshit. I’m a US Army Veteran and we hear the same thing from wanna be military people who didn’t make it past basic training. A bunch of quitters.
I just don’t get why they think they can get away with it
Or why they'd want too. How sad is your life to have to impersonate a veteran.
Matsimus I don’t see what harm they are doing.... If they were gearing up to go into combat, then I may have some issues....
"HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAAAAY WITH IT!!!!!!"
Matsimus ohhh hey matsimus!!!
Soy boy
If he never passed out of training he was never a soldier
That would depend why he didn't pass out. My mate was medically discharged, he sustained his injury 3 days before passing out of phase 2.... he is a soldier. He isn't a veteran of any conflicts.
Martyn James no.... Still not a soldier. Failed to become a solider maybe, almost a soldier, tried to be one. Not one though.
@@alexanderbrennan7452 he was fully trained so he is a soldier. I am a veteran, if I think he is a soldier, he is.
WackyVeteran Hi there.. Oddly the video has come up in my suggested videos on UA-cam... I was the reporter. The Richard Lee case revolved around the use of the term Royal Marine Officer. I spoke extensively to MoD sources and looked at this in detail, including at pay slips and so fourth. I understand, respect and acknowledge the points your raise entirely. In terms of using the term Royal Marine Officer, he was, according to an RN Commodore definitely a Royal Marine Officer. Unlike RMAS, they commission on day one. It doesn’t mean that people won’t be genuinely aggrieved at the notion of using the title not having been in any conflicts (which I haven’t either btw) particularly as the term was used in marketing... but all that is clear is that in his case, it wasn’t black and white. If people said, he’s bang out of order to trade off it, that would be a valid argument, but I did investigate this very thoroughally using extemely well placed and official sources. He was a Royal Marine Officer... he served for 11 months and was medically discharged, I believe he broke a bone in his leg if memory serves. He didn’t get a Green Beret as he didn’t pass out of the CTC.
@@DdraigGoch84 surely an 'underlying' health problem would've been picked up by your GP before even getting to PSAC stage? If not, then psac would've picked up on it.
but....but...they 'identify' as a veteran so it MUST be true!
dave101t straight the fck up I love this comment lol
Haha exactly..
It has to be a woman veteran, then they have to believed.
Yeh But they don't have the Balls required
Shut up karen jk
I served with the Royal army in the Falklands war , when we flew out on the task force and landed on the islands in Norway , we had to march from there through the Norwegian desert to fight the Spanish who invaded the embassy on the islands. I was recruited by the SAS after they saw how I shot down an Exocet missile with a 9 mill, and the CO of the SAS Lewis Collins gave me a solid gold mess tin with " who dares wins" on it.
Spot on😀 Greetings from the deserts of Norway....
brilliant
😂😂😂😂
Thanks for your service sir.
Quality 😂👍
600 men took part in the Charge of the Light Brigade in 1854. Nearly half of them were killed. 25 years later over 1,000 turned up for the reunion! So this isn’t anything new. I think it is more amusing than criminal.
That's bullshit
Let someone come in and claim your accomplishments as theirs and we’ll see if it’s funny.
Kevin Goetz
How typical. This person has likely accomplished nothing, lives off state funds, lives with his parents, and sits at a computer all day.
Unintelligent
They must been English, too dumb to know they were dead, the Scottish regiments was in the pub, chatting up the girls on the ease of kilts
If someone pretended to be a medical doctor, without practising, would they be prosecuted?
Yes if they are practising on people, i dont think so if they just go around saying they're a doctor without doing anything
@@albus1190 S#!t Dr Dre is in a lot of trouble.
It's always a mistake in the uniform that trips them up
The very fact they are wearing uniform sets alarm bells ringing
corpsman pronounced corpse -man is a way to see a liar . check obama.
it's the shaping of the beret or the lack of, that gets me.
"Do these people need to be publicly humiliated?" YES, THEY BLOODY WELL DO ! ! !
For someone who suffers from a severe case of imposter syndrome (look it up if your not familiar with it) and PTSD, I get people who come just shy of calling me out on stolen valor because of my uncomfortable and shaky demeanor when talking about my service. Some of the vets asking me havent done anything outside wearing the uniform. From this experience, I have found that most of the vets who call out stolen valor and our vindictive about it are insecure bully's. I reach a boiling point where my insecurity and inhibition get thrown out the window and I start calling these same guys out only to find that most of them were POGS or grunts that never served in combat
Some of the stolen valor people are swindling and blackmailing people though and they deserve to be humiliated and called out.
As a British Army veteran myself, I think wearing military uniform is fine, people wear it for work etc & people have done it for generations, what I do have an issue with is some of those impersonating a veteran or serving member, by wearing medals they haven’t earned. This is where the law needs to be changed. It makes a mockery of those who didn’t come home and those who’s lives were changed forever due to war. It has got to the point now, where genuine veterans are having to prove themselves rather than the fake ones. It happens every Remembrance Day & shouldn’t.
I have issue with people impersonating higher ranking ncos and commissioned officers as a way to harass and extort military servicemembers.
It's illegal to impersonate law enforcement, it needs to be more illegal to impersonate military, they do that to scam people and especially scam the VA out of hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Yes I agree.
This happens everywhere - we've been dealing with this crap since Vietnam. There are still people getting around claiming to be things they weren't. The legal definition of fraud is 'gaining a benefit by deception'. The term in Australia is 'Valour Thieves'. Sadly they are everywhere.
In the U.K. it is "Fraud by misrepresentation; (Section 1 of the Fraud Act) and is a punishable offence.
"Do they deserve to be humiliated publicly?"
Abso-freaking-lutely, they do. If someone makes the choice to do this, they make the choice to suffer the consequences. I'm not the sort to take my anger at such people out on them in a violent way, or even in a property damaging way. Talking about them publicly serves the purpose just fine **without** the legal consequences. Of course, I'm also an American and a veteran of the US Army, fully loaded with US's baggage about veterans and patriotism. That obviously colors my view.
I do wonder how it would shake out if someone faking it were caught and outed and then publicly apologized. That might be interesting to watch.
Carl Hicks Jr Not going to happen . Posers usually are convinced about their fantasy.
@Ghent Purdue Certainly, we do.
I try very hard to avoid it, but it's hard to escape a certain 'MURCA!' attitude nonsense every now and again.
The British have a similar, if quieter, conceit... that very subtle 'Imperial' attitude they get. The French have their ingrained 'Napoleonic' finicky Gallic pride. I think everybody carries a certain 'national attitude' with them that is an essential [but not necessarily complimentary] part of their character.
I worked with a guy who claimed he was a reservist for 10 years, as a sergeant. The questions he asked me made me wonder how these guys were being trained. Then it hit me, a phony who bought his uniforms online and at Army Navy stores.
In America we call this ''stolen valor''.
In England it is stolen valour!
Yes sir we do indeed. POSers is a word seen among we Vets who see these guys posing as Veterans, with an emphasis on the first POS.
It's called the same thing here too.
I spent 10 years in the Royal Engineers (1969-79) and the closest I came to conflict was being shot at a few times during numerous tours of duty in Northern Ireland. I earned my GSM though I can't honestly say I worked hard for it. Not a hero but, definitely more deserving than tossers who have only fought on a PS2 / XBox.
It's an alright pastime, but I'm not claiming ex service status for being the old Call of Duty, let ALONE putting a uniform on for it!! I'll leave that for the dossers who claim they're professionals and dont need phase 1 training
CHIMO!✌️🇨🇦
I was just about to make a joke about this fellas eyes pointing in difference directions then he bowls up with a guide dog, fair play mate.
Yes they deserve to be humiliated big time
The problem is that a lot of the people who pretend to be ex-military have some pretty complex mental health issues, to say nothing of their delusion, perhaps those exposing them might be better spending their time campaigning for proper funding of NHS Mental Health services. I don't think that public humiliation of someone who is experiencing a mental health crisis will do anything to help them, possibly quite the opposite.
"the badges were stuck on with glue, rather than sewn on."😂 those lads using wonder web are feeling Good right now.
Richard served a year. That's a trainee. He hasn't served at all.
Yes, they absolutely deserve to be found out as liars. I never served but I respect those that have done, are doing, and will do.
As a veteran I am not upset by 'walts', leave them be. I would rather hunt down veterans 'rough sleeping' or in other troubled situations; now they are people worthy of vigilante interest and help.
hey vets of the Battle of the Boyne we're having the reunion at my house this year be here after 11
To ALL of us WHO DID serve, to see and hear somebody pretend they did, is an insult to the memory of the heroes who gave all, and their families! As far as I am concerned, it should be treated the same as any other form of theft by deceit!
Charlatans and liars should ALWAYS be exposed and publicly shamed.
how about corpsman pronounced corpse-man ,check barack obama
Right on.lets start with Boris Johnson.
He lied.
In America we elect them to office.
@@lasharshar5127 well we can take pleasure in knowing he caught the covid😂🤣😂
@@organicdudranch or lieutenant pronounced leftenant.
I was not expecting Phil to be sympathetic respect big phil
That young general is going places
THOSE BASTERDS! WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MINDS FAKE SERVICE?
The penalty for this is actual military service. But your rank and achievements are wiped at the end of the sentence.
Exactly... People are twisted
No, no, NO! The military doesn't need dead weight/liabilities like this waste of oxygen. He's suckin' up air my mom's dog could be breathing.
I dont think the military should take that risk deploying and training people who are mentally ill and maybe straight up sociopaths. They'd be in there for the wrong reason
Humiliated in public, hell yes, they most certainly do.
I was almost in the RAF for exactly 30 seconds to 1 min - I got accepted but then was told I was 1 week too old.
The same thing goes on over here in the USA.
I'm hear for the banter‼️
I'm an old school veteran. Level 14 prestige on COD Black Ops specialising in Search and Destroy combat.
Hello readers. I met a man today (Sat 16th March 2019 @ 16:00 hrs this afternoon) in Surbiton and he was asking for money. He was on the corner of the street directly opposite the railway station, just up from Nero's Coffee Bar. He was dressed in combats and with a dog at his feet. A Rottweiler pup about a year old. The man had a ring on his left pinky with an SAS emblem on it. This also caught my eye as well as the combats. I genuinely did not have any change on me. As an ex serviceman myself I asked him if he was ex-military. He said yes SAS. I asked him when he served and he said in the '70s. He told me he was destitute. I asked him his name. He would not give his name. I asked him if he was getting any assistance from the Regiment and or MOD. He said the Poppy Appeal was giving him dog food for his dog. Does anyone know this man? Aged about 60 years. Heavily built with a beard. I am not knocking him for if he is ex-job he needs help. If not though he is clearly spinning a yarn and attempting to con all that passes him by with his ploy as an ex-serviceman? Only God knows the truth at this time unless someone adds to this to clarify and or not, either way, though thanks for any advice. Please, I am not judging I am just highlighting. Blessings. James (Ex NCO Irish Guards). Quis Separabit!
by stopping the iraq government from financing more terror attacks or hiding etrrorists on their soil
in the service at the end of a day army crap came off shorts & t-shirt went on
at 1630 i turned into a civilian with short hair
1:16 Oi Mate Look At Me When Your Talking To Me
Keep up your great work thanks.john
Why do these people do this?
In another life I was a Horse Handler during the American Civil War and had twelve horses shot out from under me. That does not include all the times I was wounded.
Expose and humiliate every single one!
I hate stolen valor, especially as a American civil war vet.
In all seriousness this a joke.
Btw people who do this should be charged with a felony. They know dam well what they are doing.
Send them to Derry or Belcoo or XMG to do a fully uniformed exhibition of continuity drill. I wouldn't go to one of those places in civvies.
Stolen Valor is becoming a crime in the US.
Military memory with military. The enact to place with point as any life with effect!
It is a crime..
Stolen Valor is so disrespectful. I'm glad it's a crime in the US.
Cheers from America. Stolen Valor is a crime here.
it's not
@@Michael-yu2yk - It is.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Valor_Act_of_2013
I served in the adeptus astartes Salamanders chapter with over a millenia of combat experience conquered multiple worlds and killed billions
Absolutely expose all! 👎
Ref the scrim net I wore in right through the 80's but not on a parade
There's plenty in the forces that aren't all they make out to be.
i was given tee shirts with USMC logos a few years ago, but never wore them out of respect for military vets.
Robert H wearing those ain’t a problem. It’s just when someone try’s claiming benefits that it’s a problem
Oliver Stone served in Vietnam and made a film called Platoon - perhaps more servicemen and women should write about their own experiences - a particularly good book is 'Excursion to Hell'.
Can I throw the key away,,,, Please.
"But do these people really deserve to be humiliated, so publicly?"...
Yes...yes they do...
Bring back the stocks!!!
These people haven't earned the right to wear what they wear! I get really angry about this and it should be an offence here in the UK
He can wear the beret but no unit badge. He didn’t make it. For whatever reason.
Tar and feather comes to mind
I fought in Gaul for the 8th Roman Legion
Lord AristoCat I need to see some paperwork to believe that.
Wearing it isn't a crime but claiming service is. It IS THE biggest disgrace however...
The Uniforms Act 1894 states:
(1)It shall not be lawful for any person not serving in Her Majesty’s Military Forces to wear without Her Majesty’s permission the uniform of any of those forces, or any dress having the appearance or bearing any of the regimental or other distinctive marks of any such uniform.
It's a complete fallacy that squaddies put themselves in harm's way to protect civilians.
I was a general of a nuclear submarine and flew that submarine in desert storm while in Vietnam
If he didn’t pass out and get his Green beret then he was never Actually a marine commando?!
seems like every other guy says he was in special forces, most are lying .
THe oldest trick in the book by these poodles fakers is to claim that what they did was classified. The ones that claim to be Special Forces are easy pickings.
More like special education! 🤪
No walter should be allowed to get away with it.
HAPPENS HERE IN AMERICA ALL THE TIME
Scrim was worn in the 1970s and I'm sure it has been worn a lot longer.
Honestly it's a sad sight more than anything and these people clearly need help.
its just flat out wrong
why did they blur the first guy, there are vids of his face unblurred
Anyone who lies about doing anything that requires effort and keeps doing it should be exposed. Its pretty insulting to people who make an effort to do anything in life and then some lazy person turns up and goes yeah I do that too.
Just embarrassing.
So he dropped out before he became a Royal Marine, then tells people on his website hes a Royal Marine..
That is just wrong, they should be at least fined and forced to clean up the rubbish at the nearest military base etc.
how can they clean up the rubbish near the military base if they themselves are rubbish in nature
@@razgriss5882 they can throw themselves in the bin when they picked up all the litter.
I Wear an old combat jacket ...I better watch myself...LOL
0:50 ey up that’s Jack Nicholson
We have the same probs in Australia too.
This bloke wasn't a marine, it's as simple as that, he never passed out. So in the eyes of those who served, he never possessed what it takes to pass out.
But when these people start dressing up?
The commentator asks a question, should those guilty of Stolen Valor receive such harsh public ridicule?
I think they should receive every bit of the public humiliation and ousting plus 12 weeks in Marine boot camp and SEAR five times in a row. (That's the US Marine boot camp... with NO chance of ever getting in.)
It really doesn't get any more pathetic than this folks.
Lol he’s got All girls Corp beret on
Happens here in the US all the time... I don't go out of my way to call them out, but it's usually if the start a conversation and talk about it that I call them out on it. They won't know basic things about the military. Have yet to see one in a uniform. I just think, how sad is their life to ha e to pretend to be something they're not.
I was in the RNR a few years ago. Embarrassingly, I didn’t complete phase 1 training. I NEVER under any circumstances say that I “served” because of this (I don’t even like mentioning that I was in the RNR in the first place).
Im with Big Phill on this, Im ex service ive been called a walt more than once and I get a war pension...some are just looking for it....usually through stevie wonder glasses... but I saw one guy recently, he was ex guards.....now we all know sometimes we end up with issues and he had one of those times and wore (The wrong colored beret). That poor guy is a target of a sustained attack by someone behind a hidden web page whos probably ex ta or a 3 year wonder and whats worse a news paper.....to the point I can see him topping himself. No one likes it with civvies etc but damn calm down a bit he may have had a moment but he's still a brother just chill the hell out.
What about the likes of jim shortt who set out to make money out of their lies ?
@@mentalclive let police deal with them IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW
Am ex service and I don’t show it in public makes me feel ashamed to be proud
What the hell is wrong with people.
I was a drummer boy in Nam, Luffenham...
How that work out for us?
Person in enact with point to life in balance as to harm not in place!
Yes. Yes they do deserve every bit of humiliation they receive.
If I wear my old slouch hat, I leave off badges and pugaree, as I believe that is the right of serving troops only.
I bought a US Flying suit at an air show many years ago. Put a few basic badges on (no name tags to maintain my respect for the military) and have worn it to fancy dress. Always goes down a treat.
Every one got spit on..
Totally agree, my boy (although he doesn't like me calling him that) is in the army. I would hate anyone who took credit for what he does when they have never served. Keep up the good work to make this law!
Anyone know what the marching band is playing at 02:50?
what do they get pretending to be a veteran?
Various things depends on what someone’s motive is. To give an example of that I know of, I have a Bengali friend whose uncle served in Britain’s Indian colonial army back in ww2 including fighting the battle of Imphal in Burma. When he came to the UK in the 70s he ran a small convenience shop in east London. When a drunk man came in and tried asking to pay next week. He refused The drunk man spat in his face trying to steal a bottle of whiskey telling him and later the police who arrested him he was a WW2 veteran who had fought in every battle the British army took part in from 1939-1945 and it was a disgrace to refuse veteran credit especially when the shops run by an immigrant. A week later a lady who was in the shop at the time told my friends dad the “veteran” drunk was a local resident who served a grand total of 2 weeks basic training after which he deserted and lived on a remote farm in Lancashire working for his girlfriend dad almost for free telling anyone who asked he was injured and medically discharged from the army after Dunkirk. He only came back to London out of hiding after many years after the war ended and the government decided to stop going after ww2 deserters/draft dodgers. Miraculously he still somehow managed to convince the government to give him a war pension for the two weeks training he did !
0:18 Jonah!
If these “Walts” were the last line of defence, then I may have an issue. Or they were gaining some monetary benefits at the expense of a genuine veteran, then I may have a different view. But no they are sad, not bad. These vigilantes are worse, who appoints them as the arbiters of right and wrong...
Disgraceful.
That one guy looks like agent 47
"Banter is a step too far" 🤔
Really Phil?
Expose and embarrass
I do not particularly mind the ones that dress in a mish-mash of uniforms. Or that they decorate those uniforms with a wide assortment of medals, ribbons, fourragere all while boasting of impossible deeds that are always top secret. It is clear they are detached from reality. I feel they are more to be pitied than attacked.
Yes, the retards and fantasisers are ill, and deserve pity more than anything. Cause no one believes them.
Some asshats do it to get discounts, or free hunting for vets, or something. That is deliberate fraud, and an offence.
Lying in a bar with fake medals is not illegal in the US, but looked down on. The Supreme Court says it’s free speech. So real vets do some free speech of their own on their lying butts.
Hey, everyone has free speech!
P. S.
No beatings, please, keep it legal.
As long as they aren't scamming people out of money or valuable goods and services, I don't care. But if I see someone claim a purple heart and used that to get me to buy them dinner and I later find out they never even served, I'm going to be pissed.
@@nunyabiznez6381 -- I agree. If they put on a uniform or wave a purple heart or silver star trying to get something for nothing I also get angry.
There's an important principle at stake. Some people build their lives around a lie and gain public office etc though deception. The remedy is simple. Call it out for what it is - fraud. Free speech my hat.
They all should be awarded the white feather