How to Locate Your Property Line
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2024
- City of Crystal how-to video demonstrating how to locate your property stakes.
These stakes -- also known as irons, pins or monuments -- mark where land is subdivided to create a lot. Learn more about property surveys using the City of Crystal's Property Survey handout at bit.ly/2Zqf1S9. - Навчання та стиль
This video is okay for finding your boundary line corner markers. Take note that it would require a licensed Land Surveyor to verify that the found markers/monuments are in their correct location. Yes, markers/monuments can be placed in the wrong location or get moved by a layperson. Precision vs. accuracy. Just because markers measure the correct distance between themselves (good precision), it doesn't necessarily mean that they are all in the correct location (poor accuracy). Hope this helps.
You misapplied the terms "accuracy" and "precision". That said, the rest of your share is good.
What does a surveyor charge to fine one pin?
@@jakejones5736 I define precision by the ability to obtain a repeatable value for a measurement between two points. Accuracy is if those two points are in the correct location as compared to other references. Hope that helps.
@@sharongauss9298 it really depends on a lot of factors. Get multiple estimates and have a good conversation with each surveyor. Get references from their clients.
@@TheDutchskipper I was taught that precision is how far to the right of the decimal point the measurement goes. Thus, 1/1000 is more precise than 1/100 which is more precise than 1/10. This mostly refers to the measuring instrument. Accuracy, on the other hand, refers to how close to the actual point a conclusion is. In other words, margin of error. For example, a thermometer accurate to +or- .5 degrees is more accurate than one rated at +or- 1 degree. This in spite that both thermometers measure down to .1 degree.
Thanks for the share!
Thanks for making this video. Very helpful.
Watching From Illinois.
I found my 4 survey pins (placed there in 1954) using this method. They were 4-6 inches below ground level, encased in a round pillar of concrete about the diameter of a large coffee can.
Thanks it was helpfull.
If you wan’t to find your lot lines, get a metal locator and sweep around your rear fence angle points. These could be gone if it’s a newer fence. Your front property corners could be brass disks on the curb or in the sidewalk. They may look like gum or pits in the concrete and they will have tarnished grey. If they’re not there, stand on the curb/sidewalk looking directly down your fence line and while walking slowly towards the fence, sweep the ground with a metal locator. If you still can’t find it call a surveyor. PS: a lot of states charge good money to get your survey records. Hopefully it’s stapled to the deed! Check. TLDR metal locator around the fence
One thing to remember, all distances are horizontal, level measurements. Not much variations on a gentle slope, but a great difference on a steep grade.
Wow... it's that Rush right at the beginning? Nice
That website is top notch
Here in NSW, Australia private surveyors are required to mark boundaries. Our system is more complicated than just digging up iron rods. Plans on public record can only be understood by experienced surveyor. We have a combination of buried and surface reference marks to re-establish the boundary.
It's the same in the states, honestly I am surprised by this video. This city is opening themselves up to possible lawsuits, by implying that every marker that you find is in the right place. Most older lots don't even have a marker on them!
Great video, I want to fence; do I just stretch a line from one end to the other. The engineer found the pins and determined the boundary. Any suggestions. Thanks
Check with your city or township on rules that may apply regarding placing a fence. And yes, staking the corners and running a line will help keep your posts in line with the property line.
Thank you, the boundary metal marker are in place.
Today I’m in same situation but I have latest Registry deed survey from real estate developer. Did you resolve by your town or county deed survey with boundary lines. My neighbor unable to sale his existing land since over 1 year or more and now he come with land disputes issue with his new survey but it’s not approved yet. Any suggestions? It’s my over 4000sqft land. My survey done latest July 2020 with deed registry maps all accurate. But dispute not resolved yet it’s just started today.
any update?
@@shadwell749 all set 0 inch in his favor and he backed already later when he find my survey is accurate.
Thanks
Looks excellent time to spend doing this but this should be GPS marked. We must start towards that situation now.
This is ridiculous. Can't tell you how many times I've had clients locate "pins" that turn out to be anything but.
I’m assuming most cities/towns don’t use these types of stakes to mark property lines?
Usually iron rebar
The surveyor finds a corner as a spot on the ground, then marks this spot with a pin. If the pin is moved for any reason, the spot on the ground remains as surveyed.
It is illegal to remove a monument, or property marker
What if it’s under a neighbor’s illegal driveway?
Can someone please give me a link to the website
crystalmn.gov
Question. why/how can someone have a property deed with all the lines laid out (by a surveyor), and then years later a person next door can survey their land and they changer your property line and act like it is totally legit? further more, why don't said surveyors use to old deed or deeds of the property around to get their lines?
good question. many more details would be needed. it does happen now and then, especially in deeded lands. much less in subs.
Let's just assume that both surveyors in your described situation are awesome and did everything right. Surveyors can only go by the monuments they find and the documents they research. Surveys are professional opinions of the location of what a deed describes or intends to describe for the property. Sometimes the information available is not the best and another surveyor might find a different set of monuments or have some more info that gives him a different opinion.
@@AaronBurnsVoT i guess my question is more like, if it has already been done before and there are lines on a map, measurements in a PVA office, and in a land owners files somewhere. why is there any reason to survey the land again ever? example- i cant pay someone to come look at my receipt for my pc i bought 5 years ago and they say "oh new egg owes you a new processor, turns out you bought the i7 version not the i5". (even though it plainly says i5 on the receipt)
@@tavinc There are a few reasons here in Oklahoma (where I practice) that you'd need a survey again after it's been surveyed before. You are refinancing, rezoning, or splitting/combining a tract. Then there are good reasons why you'd want to get it restaked: like you are building an addition or fence. But most of the time if you have the original plat of survey then you can just provide the Plat of Survey from the last time it was surveyed.
Have you ever hired a mechanic to work on your car and found out later (from a different mechanic) that the first guy somehow got it wrong and messed it up, or worse, never tried to do the right thing to start with?!
I am a licensed land surveyor.
Welcome to my world.
Not all surveyors are good at their profession. And those of us who are good at it can make mistakes too.
Hire a suveyor
Couldn’t one use GIS coordinates possibly from legal descriptions and correspond it with a compass.
Mobile GPS is notoriously inaccurate. Look up "mobile GPS accuracy".
@@modvs1 thanks for your response. Do you know an alternate GPS system that would be more accurate than mobile?
@@bubandow3173 A cadastral surveyor.
@@modvs1 will look into that - thank you.
@@bubandow3173 I'm sure there are military grade devices you could buy, but I bet a surveyor would be cheaper. And from a legal perspective, it's neither here no there that you can accurately identify anything, since only a registered cadastral surveyor has the authority to do so.
Oh this sounds like Minnesota
What happens when you can't find any of your property bars?
Call a local land surveying company
Just start building anyway.
that's easy, send your house deed and I'll find out for you
Why would zoning enforcement encourage property owners to survey their own lots?
Better then just guessing the locations from word of mouth or using online GIS mapping where the zoning enforcement later learns that the problem isn't a problem after determining property lines and thus wasting their time being paid for by tax dollars.
Also old property, especially agriculture/residential can be very sloppy
because the technology wasn't there. My dad purchased some property
with two disputed lines even though the property was surveyed when he
bought the property in the mid 1970s. One line was disputed then which
was solved in court and the other one recently cropped up when new
neighbors surveyed their property.
Nowhere did he encourage, advise or even mention anything to that effect
That's a $1600 schondstet ferrous only metal detector.
except they cost about half that.
No that is an $850 locator in the US.
I only hear a music
Grew up there. Lol
How to locate your property line -> please call a local land surveyor, don’t do it yourself. It will be more expensive when you screw up!
Don't be cheap, get your land surveyed when you buy it!!!!! The easiest and best way to do it.
1900!!????? F that
This video is in correct! You just simply can't dig up a pin or a pipe ( marker) , and assume that is your property marker!!!!! People move these things around, utility guys accidentally dig them up and just stick them back in the ground where ever they thought it was!!!! Neighbors try to steal land by moving them!!!! You will definitely need a land surveyor to do the math to make sure they are correct!!!!!!!!!
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@@Naldo_S1K I love how these cowardly trolls troll the internet looking for something to critique. You my friend need a life!
You are correct - Surveying for over 37 years (R.L.S.) - Love your handle BTW :-)
Agree with OP.
Also a registered (licensed) land surveyor.
@@followingjesus2064 He just put exclamation points in response to your deluge of exclamations!!!
Really though, any person can find these corner marks and do the math to confirm it aligns as they expect. What more does a professional land surveyor do?
Why would code enforcement find your property stakes
For everything more than simply locating your apparent property corner , don’t do this ! Call a professional !
In my over 40 years of surveying experience I’ve literally seen everything that could go wrong with this idea.
Yikes ! P.S. I’m Licensed professional surveyor
Ken Jones what county do u work for.
me too, you know what goes on, the amount of false corners, and what people think about boundaries is staggering
You know how many surveyors make mistakes? Tons of them and I shouldnt know more about surveying than surveyors but much of the time i do and i make them correct their surveys....experience over license
@@keithg1955 sure
You can write English correctly, but I’m supposed to just believe you’re a surveyor? Anyone can say things can go wrong here…. Show us your job in your videos….. Prove me wrong about you being a surveyor. 🤷♂️ Shouldn’t be hard…
Leave it to the professional. Just because you find a corner doesn't mean it's right.
Be careful to not recommend that individuals practice land surveying without a license. It's illegal in nearly, if not all states.
Don’t call the police on your neighbors Karen.
Would finding previously located iron markers ever be considered illegal?
Hmmm..... I didn't notice anywhere he recommended or even mentioned that.
@@JamesonThe1 no,there is nothing illegally, nor even ill advised about doing that
@Mark Tooke Although I agree, watch the whole video. He literally gives a disclaimer more than once in different parts of the video...
Locating your stakes?? Ray Charles could find stakes with enough walking. Pins, bars and markers are not stakes. Hire a professional.
This is a joke, do not try to survey your own lot. Call a surveyor, it may save you thousands of dollars in legal action.
As a professional land surveyor - this whole video makes me cringe. Like my university professor said you can't explain what took me years to learn in 5 minutes
One can if they're a good teacher.
He is showing a GIS map, GIS means "Get it Surveyed". Call a Professional Land Surveyor for this.
I find this video to be completely irresponsible on the part of the city. You are giving people a false sense that the corner they find is correct. The city of crystal should take this video down immediately.
Music cringy
Terrible advice from a city employee? Must have an attorney buddy who needs work. You can't established alignments, review title docs, or legal precedence, but you can cause everyone a ton of money. Does this guy have more videos I'd like to diy my heart surgery? What a disrespect to the profession.