NO SPARK! How Do I Know If My Coil / Ignition Module Is Faulty? (DAY 23)

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  • Опубліковано 17 лют 2023
  • DAY 23 of ⭐30 DAYS OF QUESTIONS⭐ How Do I Know If My Coil / Ignition Module Is Faulty? Steve will let you know!
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    👉DAY 14 - What Does WARRANTY Actually Mean? ➜ • What Does WARRANTY Act...
    👉DAY 15 - Can I Remove ETHANOL From My Gas? ➜ • Can I Remove ETHANOL F...
    👉DAY 16 - Why Is My Pressure Washer So Hard To Pull Start? ➜ • Why Is My Pressure Was...
    👉DAY 17 - Why Does My Chain Saw Leak Oil? ➜ • Why Does My Chain Saw ...
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    👉DAY 19 - Should I Buy My John Deere Lawn Mower From Home Depot Or My Dealer? ➜ • Should I Buy My John D...
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    👉DAY 21 - (FAKE NEWS) Honda Is Stopping Lawn Mower Production? ➜ • (FAKE NEWS) Honda Is S...
    👉DAY 22 - Will cleaning the rust off my flywheel help with spark? ➜ • Does Cleaning Flywheel...
    👉DAY 24 - Will I DESTROY My Pressure Washer By Doing THIS? ➜ • Will I DESTROY My Pres...
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  • @StevesSmallEngineSaloon
    @StevesSmallEngineSaloon  Рік тому +8

    Click below 👇👇👇 for the links to the other questions...
    ⭐30 DAYS OF QUESTIONS⭐ - (Links will be updated as the videos are put out)
    👉DAY 1 - Is A Stihl 4-Mix Engine A 2-Stroke Or A 4-Stroke? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/QF__8hs0bo8/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 2 - Are John Deere riding lawn mowers made by MTD? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/iCJsWsd6SLo/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 3 - How Do I Break In A New Chainsaw? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/NE4Q1Y8v2U4/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 4 - Does Soaking WeedEater Line In Water Actually Help? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/84hFN_jveMc/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 5 - Why Does My Briggs Lawn Mower Say Never Change The Oil? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/IVGmetgOcgo/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 6 - Can I Use Outboard Mix Oil In My Chain Saw? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/AlmegbfUJpU/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 7 - What Is Your Favorite Chain Saw? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/wMJeH0jCcHM/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 8 - Why Does My Grass Chute Keep Plugging Up? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/WtbhiNy42IU/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 9 - What Does The Purge Bulb Actually Do? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/sbDPU73fQQY/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 10 - What Is Your Favorite Penetrating Oil? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/jrzNv_Db0ZA/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 11 - How Do I UnFlood My Chainsaw Or Weed Eater? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/n0UnfoL5qWk/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 12 - What Is The Best 2-Stroke Gas / Oil Mix Ratio? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/-bsbKqZbyrw/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 13 - Why Does My Leaf Blower Bog Out When I Pull The Trigger? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/O4fMjSg7Z_U/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 14 - What Does WARRANTY Actually Mean? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/D-8054Q6vx0/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 15 - Can I Remove ETHANOL From My Gas? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/qZo4ItYiMCQ/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 16 - Why Is My Pressure Washer So Hard To Pull Start? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/Apipsdmf8qs/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 17 - Why Does My Chain Saw Leak Oil? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/3P5ITSFWUZg/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 18 - Can I Use Old Dirty Motor Oil As Bar And Chain Oil In My Chain Saw? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/ilRZNsBNE3Y/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 19 - Should I Buy My John Deere Lawn Mower From Home Depot Or My Dealer? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/IZRjSYwYhyc/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 20 - Do Battery Powered Chain Saws Work Good? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/Zb8XNGfHsQU/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 21 - (FAKE NEWS) Honda Is Stopping Lawn Mower Production? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/y4TSwWHFb-o/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 22 - Will cleaning the rust off my flywheel help with spark? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/w8-exMgUhuc/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 24 - Will I DESTROY My Pressure Washer By Doing THIS? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/22OlLNAZKa8/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 25 - How Do I Fix An On/Off Kill Switch? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/IyaUpGh19CI/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 26 - Why doesn’t my lawnmower have an oil drain plug on it? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/BXJbWWhMk0s/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 27 - Why Is There Black Oil Coming Out Of My Muffler? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/SNHdUh5tRoA/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 28 - Can I Put A LONGER Bar On My Chain Saw? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/OrRux_GSQQQ/v-deo.html
    👉DAY 29 - Why Does My Engine STOP Running After A Few Minutes? ➜ ua-cam.com/video/m5LEwNi-geM/v-deo.html
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    • @chrisp308
      @chrisp308 Рік тому

      What about these inverter generators with the ignition module just bolted to the outside of the motor with a positive and negative wire coming from the kill switch?

    • @justinmoody6721
      @justinmoody6721 5 місяців тому

      will this work on a. v twin Kohler courage that has an intermittent misfire/dead miss?

    • @paulmohney5715
      @paulmohney5715 3 місяці тому

      what if the coil is ok but the wire that holds the coil is loose?

  • @edstraker8451
    @edstraker8451 Рік тому +21

    Your channel is hands down, the best on YT for teaching, advising and methodical problem solving. Thanks Steve.

  • @matopezuta2050
    @matopezuta2050 Рік тому +42

    Don't forget there are still a lot of older engines out there with points that should be checked before replacing the coil.

    • @aldinnidla770
      @aldinnidla770 Рік тому +2

      Thats right, good good

    • @harryshector
      @harryshector Рік тому +6

      And, across those points is a capacitor (Condenser), which also can fail, either shorted - which will mean no spark, or open/dramatically changed in value, which can lead to very weak spark.

    • @DirectoutdoorsTV
      @DirectoutdoorsTV 11 місяців тому +1

      What is the "points"

    • @SoothingSounds-kq6yg
      @SoothingSounds-kq6yg 8 місяців тому +1

      That's a good point.

    • @lotus956
      @lotus956 5 місяців тому

      Your point?

  • @tkskagen
    @tkskagen Рік тому +23

    Simple episodes like this are more "reinforcement" as to why I am a very proud subscriber!

    • @timothydolan5587
      @timothydolan5587 Рік тому

      I feel exactly the same and for the same reason I'm also a proud supporter TK.

  • @timothydolan5587
    @timothydolan5587 Рік тому +3

    Great tip about how to isolate a coil. Something I did not know. Thanks again April and Steve, you both are a delight. And the way you present your information makes me feel a bit like I'm standing on the other side of your counter and you are talking to me personally. I am sure other regular viewers feel the same. Always, Thumbs Up!

  • @randymartin5521
    @randymartin5521 Рік тому +3

    I have learned more about small engines from your channel than anywhere else. I guess I have been fortunate in that in my 58 years, other than having to rebuild one carburetor on an old push mower and replacing the deteriorated fuel lines on my chainsaw, I have never had any troubles with my small engines. Other parts of the machines have worn out while the engines were still going. Proper and timely maintenance go a looong way toward ensuring trouble free performance.

  • @BjornV78
    @BjornV78 Рік тому +5

    In the early 2000's, a friend of mine raced Pocketbike competition, in the so-called Proto class.
    I helped him with the technique (former car mechanic) before and during the races.
    In the Proto class we were allowed unlimited tuning, only the cylinder capacity was not allowed to exceed 50cc. In terms of ignition, we gained a lot of experience back then, and also learned from the mistakes of other riders. We had noticed that the gap between the magneto coil and flywheel was very important. We and others always thought that this gap should be as small as possible, until one day we adjusted this gap with the thinnest paper we could find. The engine sounded more powerful (and also reacted more strongly to the throttle), but the maximum rpm was suddenly more than 2000 rpm lower (normally we had around 15000 rpm, and then suddenly only around 13000 rpm). What we then noticed was that the magneto coil and flywheel were burning hot, and that the plastic of the magneto coil started to smell. Afterwards we adjusted the gap back as before, but we still didn't get back to 15000 rpm, and at high revs the engine started to stutter. After a long search, we replaced the magneto coil, which took away the stuttering, but we still didn't get back to 15000 rpm. When we eventually also replaced the flywheel, we reached 17000 rpm. When we did tests afterwards with the old flywheel and the new one, it turned out that the magnet of the old one had lost strength due to the extreme heat.
    Afterwards we learned that the extreme heat development has to do with so-called "Eddy current" which magnets can develop, and that a too small magneto coil gap acts as a brake, and that after a certain time, this causes permanent damage to the magneto coil and flywheel. Afterwards we simply folded print paper double as a gauge and we have not encountered that problem again. The gap also determines the ignition timing to a small extent. With a smaller gap, the spark comes earlier.

    • @monarichardson1556
      @monarichardson1556 4 місяці тому +1

      I was just wondering about whether or not leaning towards a smaller or larger gap made a difference. TY 4 sharing

  • @jasong7374
    @jasong7374 Рік тому +2

    Another thing to try in regards to ignition module diagnosis is corrosion where it is mounted to the block and not getting a correct grounding to the laminations,it is rare but does happen,had a few in the early 2000s on the Stihl MS 660, Thanks again April and Steve, well done

  • @jimbrewer2893
    @jimbrewer2893 Рік тому +2

    Good one. Straight up simple.

  • @user-hw7lv2ll2f
    @user-hw7lv2ll2f 9 місяців тому +2

    Perfect timing discovered no spark yesterday 12.5 Kohler add the Saloon method 2 day with Steve’s guidance ! Lucky Me ! 😊

  • @johnmccormick175
    @johnmccormick175 Рік тому +1

    Thank you Steve and April...stay safe 🙂

  • @johnskitzis6540
    @johnskitzis6540 Рік тому +2

    Thanks guys! Did not know about that. This is why Steve is the man!👏👏

  • @paulmcreynolds1774
    @paulmcreynolds1774 Рік тому +3

    Great advice Steve. That will save money for your viewers. Thanks.

  • @mikevanhook6683
    @mikevanhook6683 Рік тому +9

    Right on Steve that's how I do it the only other thing you do suggest it's just double-check the gap between the flywheel make sure nothing's come loose or the Gap hasn't changed as long as you're good that's exactly what I

  • @MrMarkpeggy
    @MrMarkpeggy Рік тому +2

    Thanks, Steve and April! You two are awesome 👌

  • @markschmidt5036
    @markschmidt5036 Рік тому +4

    Thanks Steve, learned something new today!!!

  • @sully547
    @sully547 Рік тому +7

    Thanks Steve, now that was pretty informative, I did not know that you could do that. What a great tip

  • @tonym6920
    @tonym6920 Рік тому +2

    Really enjoying your 30 days of questions, Steve! You have a great channel, thanks for sharing your expertise with us. 👍👍

  • @Mechanicturfgear
    @Mechanicturfgear Рік тому +6

    Exactly , so easy 👍 liking the 30 day deal. 👏🇨🇦Also check with a know good plug and that the wire end wasn’t pulled off plug inside the boot

  • @mikejoyal4855
    @mikejoyal4855 Рік тому +5

    Love these videos. Rock on, Stevie!
    Keep him on track, April.

  • @Smalltechguy
    @Smalltechguy 10 місяців тому +2

    Yes Steve, I missed the other days prior. Working a Cud Cadet XT1 with a no spark condition. I cleaned all the rust off them both to include the grounding points. Set the air gap and still nothing. I've not pulled the ground of yet to verify. I also checked the key way just to make sure it didn't jump time and not spark when it's supposed to.

  • @simonmorris8651
    @simonmorris8651 Рік тому +1

    Sheer Brilliance, that is such a fantastic simple and easy tip to do, thanks so much Steve and April 👍👌👏

  • @woodlandburl6648
    @woodlandburl6648 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for a great teaching.

  • @jeremyankney1733
    @jeremyankney1733 Рік тому +2

    Thank you very much for the information.

  • @lonhoschar1943
    @lonhoschar1943 Рік тому +1

    Good simple advice!!

  • @mosesslc
    @mosesslc Рік тому +2

    You are a great partnership and your videos always rock🙏

  • @markdanielczyk944
    @markdanielczyk944 Рік тому +4

    Steve and April our small engine saviors!

  • @okanaganpeterjames
    @okanaganpeterjames Рік тому +3

    Loving this series

  • @kevinbryden1327
    @kevinbryden1327 Рік тому +1

    Great advice didn't know you could test that way

  • @allenhuling598
    @allenhuling598 Рік тому +1

    Great info, and I look forward to the full video on this subject! Cheers to you both!

  • @stevenchandler4218
    @stevenchandler4218 Рік тому +2

    Good advice again Steve 👍

  • @philliphall5198
    @philliphall5198 Рік тому +1

    Thank You’ll for information and advice
    Happy you’ll take time to train us All 😊

  • @s1kainer
    @s1kainer Рік тому +1

    Didn't know this Steve. Thank you for the share!

  • @edwardde3
    @edwardde3 9 місяців тому +1

    Great Videos, keep them coming. I learn a lot every time I watch one of these! This time I was struggling with a older 14hp Kawasaki motor FC420V/AS10 on a John Deere LK172 that did not have a spark. When I first tried testing it with this method I pulled the wire directly off the coil and still didn't get a spark and thought the coil was bad because this ignition circuit has an Ignitor Module in it which still has to stay connected (I disconnected when pulling the wire off the coil). I saw another video specific to my motor that showed disconnecting the kill wire before the ignitor so the ignitor module was still connected to the coil. The actual problem was the ignitor module, which was screwed to a shroud rather than directly to the motor. Problem was resolved when I jumpered case ground to the ignition module mounting screw.

  • @gharv1313
    @gharv1313 Рік тому +1

    Loved the question today, definitely can save money with your explanation SteveO! Cheers 🍻 Steve and April Out

  • @seanrich1367
    @seanrich1367 Рік тому +2

    Thanks April/Steve. Great information. I was thinking like Mato P commented. I guess my equipment is dated. (points are fouled).

  • @jimwetzel1635
    @jimwetzel1635 Рік тому +15

    As a guy I knew used to say, in an automotive context: "There are mechanics, and there are parts replacers."

    • @TripGibson
      @TripGibson 3 місяці тому +1

      Which one are you !

    • @jimwetzel1635
      @jimwetzel1635 3 місяці тому +1

      @@TripGibson Pretty much the latter, I'm afraid. But I continue to strive.

  • @robbieanderson4674
    @robbieanderson4674 Рік тому +1

    Awesome tip! and you've saved some folks some money for sure!

  • @rhadden8976
    @rhadden8976 Рік тому +1

    If you don't mind me interjecting, you touched on it on last video about the air gap. If a mounting screw vibrates loose you could lose the gap and not work too. Thanks for taking the time to share.

  • @paulmorrey733
    @paulmorrey733 Рік тому +1

    Thanks

  • @apackwestbound5946
    @apackwestbound5946 Рік тому +1

    Thank you again!

  • @murphymmc
    @murphymmc Рік тому +1

    Another great bit of information.

  • @stanblackburn700
    @stanblackburn700 3 місяці тому +1

    So easy. Thanks, Steve.

  • @byronwoolfrey1039
    @byronwoolfrey1039 Рік тому +1

    Steve, rust on that coil where the 2 points pass the flywheel sometimes get rusty enough that the intensity of the spark is reduced. I have seen this several times. Take off the ignition module and sand those 2 points and for me it has worked..... sometimes

  • @Gary67242
    @Gary67242 Рік тому +1

    great tip .....thumbs up !!

  • @Scrapper202
    @Scrapper202 5 місяців тому +1

    I was getting ready to buy a new coil,disconnected the wire,started on first pull,thank you,thank you👍

  • @jasonbusch3624
    @jasonbusch3624 Рік тому +11

    I always check the gap on the ignition module. I had a small 2 cycle engine that had spark and would start and run but it was very hard to get started and would die and acted like it ran out of fuel. I re gapped the module closer and it starts on the first pull and runs like new.

    • @jasonbusch3624
      @jasonbusch3624 Рік тому +1

      @@holleyman1970 business cards are free and everywhere

  • @DarkFlamage
    @DarkFlamage Рік тому +17

    If it's an old engine with points under the flywheel, then those need to be cleaned!

    • @vapinbachelor289
      @vapinbachelor289 Рік тому +1

      Points and condensers should be cleaned using file 13..🤣

    • @paulmaxwell8851
      @paulmaxwell8851 2 місяці тому +1

      @@vapinbachelor289 That depends. my old Stihl 028AV has points and condenser, but I wouldn't think of upgrading to electronic ignition. It would spoil the original state of a collectible engine. For most folks, yes, upgrade to electronic: hotter spark and faster starts guaranteed.

  • @JoeLicata-ng5fy
    @JoeLicata-ng5fy Рік тому +1

    Steve, I replaced the cylinder/Piston on my MS 311 due to running it lean caused by leaky crank seals. I replaced the coil with a brand new Stihl part as well, and now have a NO SPARK condition! I tried disconnecting the ground wire as you outlined in your video... still no spark. I traced the yellow wire back looking for a short, and it all looks good. I am at a loss...

  • @EastCoastWingNuts
    @EastCoastWingNuts Рік тому +4

    Spark tester shows spark yet to weak to fire engine. Any multi meter readings to confirm weak module ? Thanks for the Vids ! I learn a lot . Nice to see April in this series .

  • @charlesjames7936
    @charlesjames7936 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for posting your video. I followed your instructions and found let I did not need a Ignition module.

  • @stevez340
    @stevez340 Рік тому +8

    Answering 30 questions in one day is insane! I’m sure you both took a long nap after this marathon😂

  • @firemanj35
    @firemanj35 Рік тому +1

    Wow did nit know that. Thanks Steve

  • @derek876544
    @derek876544 Рік тому +1

    Steve also check plug cap ! had faulty ones of them too when I thought module was faulty

  • @farmerwayne1404
    @farmerwayne1404 Рік тому +18

    Q: Steve, should I change my module?
    A: Have you sanded the rust off the flywheel?

    • @BlcokedAccount
      @BlcokedAccount Рік тому +3

      Came here just to find that comment!!

    • @NA-pg4lf
      @NA-pg4lf Рік тому +3

      Woah pump your breaks bud. You answered this yesterday. You said you highly
      Recommended polishing your flywheel. You dementia is setting in deep. /s

    • @100vg
      @100vg Рік тому

      @Farmer Wayne 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

    • @celloprof
      @celloprof 7 годин тому

      I sanded, nothing happened

  • @kansascityshuffle8526
    @kansascityshuffle8526 Рік тому +1

    Learned this one from mower medic1. Corrosion on the coil where it is spaced from the flywheel could be a problem. He recommended sanding that area if corrosion is present.

  • @johnbell1859
    @johnbell1859 10 місяців тому +1

    Nice one Steve and April, think you’ve just solved the problem I have. Thanks 🇬🇧

  • @motorcoachtech7615
    @motorcoachtech7615 Рік тому +7

    Don’t forget to check the coil mounting posts for corrosion. Clean them up, reset coil gap and recheck for spark. I have had this a couple of times.

    • @tomwincek8310
      @tomwincek8310 Рік тому +1

      Same here. After cleaning the mounting surfaces and setting the gap with a business card, I was cautious to not over tighten the mounting screws into the aluminum housing for fear of stripping out, but I was under tightened. When the flywheel passed under the magnets, the gap closed and I had no spark.

  • @nicolec7290
    @nicolec7290 Рік тому +1

    Again I saved the day. Ty

  • @DavidRobinson-mx6cl
    @DavidRobinson-mx6cl Рік тому +2

    Thsnks brother !!!!!! 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @czellner00
    @czellner00 Місяць тому +2

    Hello Steve, I just watched this episode. so, the issue I'm having is with Americas Sweetheart John Deere... he has a Japanese Heart. that won't start. (No Spark)
    Back Story: my sone gave me a JD RX-73 riding mower. It ran briefly and they would not start. so, he and a "Mower Mechanic" worked on it and it won't start. I am not a dummy to small engines. and I taught my son well. He ended up giving me the mower after replacing the coil & Plug. thinking surely, he over looked something I tore into it. This is a Kawasaki 9 hp motor (Model FC290V). Two things strike me as odd about it. first it has an Igniter....I've not seen that or had issue with on ever. so, I replaced it. My Son replaced the coil, so I Olhmed it out seemed ok but I replaced it anyway because I have noticed an up tik in new parts being bad from the git-go.(Oh BTW, amazon takes back coils) still no spark. the Flywheel is rusty... LOL because it's cast iron. and that happens I know. HOWEVER, the flywheel has a replaceable magnet. (Huh wth why is that?) I did the screwdriver test on the magnet and compared to other mowers, Pressure washer motors and seems fine. still no spark. What I did find odd was on this coil, there was no real adjustment for gap. so, I measured it at .015. still won't spark
    In closing two coils, a new igniter, two spark plugs, and with the ground terminal disconnected still no spark. it defies mechanical common sense. replacing the motor is too expensive, when I can pick up another used riding mower for $500 running or not.
    What say You?

  • @kurtsimmons1587
    @kurtsimmons1587 Рік тому +7

    Steve can you check the resistance of your coil with a multimeter?

    • @donmayberryjrsOPE
      @donmayberryjrsOPE Рік тому

      That may tell you if it's definitely bad but not necessarily definitely good 😁

  • @COSpacegunner
    @COSpacegunner Рік тому

    Love the videos & content! Question: What if the wire from the coil to the spark plug has an open circuit? There would still be no spark with a good coil. I would check the continuity between the spark plug and the coil/ignition module as a primary test.
    I have an old Stihl 015 that had this issue and had to reconnect the wire from the module to the spring that connects to the spark plug. Problem solved.

  • @vinnybauer4205
    @vinnybauer4205 19 днів тому +1

    Greetings,
    Ordered my coil today...less than $20 on Amazon. Yes, hope it works. BTW, had a metal rivet get stuck to the magnets. May have caused damage.
    Thanks
    Chief Ken Bauer, USAF (Ret)

  • @luispuga2831
    @luispuga2831 18 днів тому +1

    It worked for me thank you 🙏

  • @BONFIRERG
    @BONFIRERG 8 місяців тому +1

    thanks Professor Steve !!

  • @petergonshor5277
    @petergonshor5277 Рік тому +6

    Love ladies getting involved in their husbands work, keep it up April!

  • @robgraff
    @robgraff Рік тому +2

    Unless it's an old engine with points. Keep up the good work.

  • @danschenck9442
    @danschenck9442 Місяць тому +2

    thank you for info... any show on testing ignition igniter.?

  • @tractortalkwithgary1271
    @tractortalkwithgary1271 Рік тому +1

    Another good job with this video guys. Big fan here.

  • @afootfoil645
    @afootfoil645 Місяць тому +1

    Got my gen running, thanks.

  • @NovaBill6264
    @NovaBill6264 8 місяців тому +1

    Awesome video God Bless you and your family

  • @RaysLaughsAndLyrics
    @RaysLaughsAndLyrics Рік тому +7

    Good advice...Or use your Multimeter to check resistance and continuity.

    • @cedrichollowell856
      @cedrichollowell856 Рік тому +3

      Agreed. Steve presented a method that is quick and simple and works. I don't necessarily just look for a just replace this part so I'm with you on the multimeter. Something to add is that the coil and wire and spark plug boot CAN be replaced as individual parts. The multimeter will help you get down to the specific fault. Many people look at how many settings are on the meter and hear words regarding electrical theory and get intimidated. Truth is using the right tools will save you money.

    • @RaysLaughsAndLyrics
      @RaysLaughsAndLyrics Рік тому +1

      @@cedrichollowell856 True comment.. Keep your options open. Thanks for sharing.

    • @paulmaxwell8851
      @paulmaxwell8851 2 місяці тому

      With the old-school ignition coils, the ones tied to points and condenser (I'm working on one right now, on my old Stihl 028AV chainsaw) the primary and secondary coils within the coil CAN be checked with a multimeter. Today's solid state ignition modules cannot be so easily checked because of the electronic components inside. Just follow Steve's advice: disconnect the grounding conductor and spin the engine. You'll either see a nice hot spark or you won't.

  • @dennisperkins1989
    @dennisperkins1989 Рік тому +2

    i was having trouble starting my stihl MS181 and decided to check the plug and coil, no spark at plug but coil tested ok. When i pulled the plug lead out of the retaining clip i found that the green kill wire and the black one were both stripped as if the plastic cover had been stripped back wit a knife rather than worn looked rather odd as i had owned my saw since about 2016 i had not lent it to anyone nor had it been back in for repair , anyway i separated the wires and taped up the bare ones and replaced them in the clip except for the plug lead which i put beside the clip. i replaced everything and it started the first time. and since it has started better than since new. i dont know how the wires became bare but i imagine what was happening was that with the wires being bare they interfering with each other and the plug lead. I have now ordered a new wiring harness, we'll see

  • @robertmailhos8159
    @robertmailhos8159 Рік тому +4

    I've replaced the ignition coil the main thing is to put it on the correct way otherwise it will make it Miss fire the other thing is the spark plug might be cracked

  • @josephrich6014
    @josephrich6014 Рік тому +2

    Also possible that bad connection in sparkplug boot. Should test resistance with multimeter.

  • @mongomay1
    @mongomay1 11 місяців тому +1

    Great hot tip questions

  • @jacksimper5725
    @jacksimper5725 Рік тому +7

    Be a good idea to do a more in depth on this one ./Multi meter etc

  • @robertwilliams3983
    @robertwilliams3983 Рік тому +1

    I'm working on an older Husqvarna weed eater in which nearly all the insulation covering the wires that go to the start/stop switch has fell off. No spark. I'm hoping that replacing these wires will cure the problem. You have to remove a bunch of screws & separate the motor from the shaft to even see the coil.

  • @tonywright560
    @tonywright560 Рік тому +1

    That would be a magic bit of advice for me if I was desperate. I have a great way of finding out what the problem is. I take whatever machine it is to my favourite small engine repair shop. It's really weird. They fix things!

    • @tbone73
      @tbone73 7 місяців тому

      Hilarious, I have never heard that one before

  • @100vg
    @100vg Рік тому +3

    Good to know! Thanks, Steve. Now to remember it. My mind is a steel trap... with a broken spring. 🤣 But typing that should help me to remember it now. 👍

  • @videos4gotten
    @videos4gotten 3 місяці тому +1

    thank you this video helped me!

  • @anthonypuccio9575
    @anthonypuccio9575 Рік тому +4

    Ya gotta make sure the iron bars have a good ground to the block, i.e., the mounting screws. If it's corroded under the coil and not making good contact with the block you will also get a no spark or very week spark issue.

  • @Dawglesslife
    @Dawglesslife 4 дні тому +1

    Genius thank you very much for this video

  • @brianpooley6635
    @brianpooley6635 Рік тому +1

    I had a coil I thought was bad but it turned out to be a bad connector to the spark plug. Some of the new motors have some porcelain in the metal connector that goes open

  • @Dave-tw9ib
    @Dave-tw9ib Рік тому

    Use a ohm meter to check primary and secondary i bought a brand new coil last year primary open your right good quick test for sure have you friend hold the plug and pull it over if she doesn't jump 2 feet it's bad if her hair stands up it's good

  • @bigcatdriver1
    @bigcatdriver1 7 місяців тому

    Great as always like to watch Steve great guy

  • @Leonardo555ZZZ
    @Leonardo555ZZZ Рік тому +8

    Be aware , sometimes they only fail when they are hot , but run ok when cool.

    • @Mike75575
      @Mike75575 Рік тому +1

      Yes. Intermittent problems are the real head wreckers .

    • @specfever2
      @specfever2 7 місяців тому

      That's what I fear I have going on. After using my Shindy eb910rt for a while, it starts to bog down. RPM might go up for a bit and then back down. I wait until it's cool, and then it's good again. Someone else suggested fuel tank vent but if my son unscrews the fuel cap a little bit while I'm running it, there's no change. Could be fuel filter, I guess.

  • @zeeb696
    @zeeb696 6 місяців тому +1

    Steve! I have a jonsered 920 it’s unbelievable hard to pull. Would like to see a video how to put a decompression valve on it.

  • @retiredrick1715
    @retiredrick1715 Рік тому +1

    Learn something new everyday!

  • @TheCelltek
    @TheCelltek Рік тому +2

    How do you check ohms on a coil?

  • @paulbean3604
    @paulbean3604 Рік тому

    Hey Steve, can you show how to replace the intake boot on a Stihl 017? Thank you

  • @philipbreau1246
    @philipbreau1246 Рік тому +1

    Could incorrect air gap be a problem? Check resistance on primary/secondary windings.

  • @cwill2429
    @cwill2429 7 днів тому

    I said it a few years ago and I will say it again, Steve you rock

  • @warmblood58
    @warmblood58 4 місяці тому +1

    Anyway to test a coil that functions but is on its way out, ie weaker spark, intermittant spark fail etc? Basic spark test the best method? I suspect my oem Kohler twin coils are headed in that direction, I did notice with two identical test lights hooked up that one side showed a much stronger spark than the other when running with both cylinders hooked up to test lights

  • @mikebetts3573
    @mikebetts3573 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for the video I have a F525 and I can't get no spark at all I try to unplug the ground wire like you said I still have no spark it is a John Deere part and like you say they are expensive and I'm going to try another coil okay thank you for the video and if you give me any other ideas like what is underneath the flywheel that looks like a ninja star what is that somebody told me that was bad thank you

  • @iceman3071
    @iceman3071 Рік тому +2

    I had the same problem. No spark. Good coil and spark plug. It turned out that the coil was not 10 thousands of an inch from the flywheel magnet. Easy fix!

  • @rquest3059
    @rquest3059 Рік тому +5

    The first thing I'd do is clean the rust off the flywheel...😁...lol.

  • @louishigley672
    @louishigley672 Рік тому +2

    Just watch day 23 on coils,I had a few where the mounts were corroded, and it had no spark

  • @bulldogms
    @bulldogms 18 днів тому +1

    That's me throwing parts at my weed Wacker. Great stuff Steve. Will try this one.