This can't be good.... || Wavegrove Islander
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
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INDEX:
00:00 Intro
01:25 The U.I
02:04 Disclosure
02:42 Testing
03:30 Level or sound?
04:41 Coloring
05:47 Wow
06:43 The problem with most simulations...
07:44 This is really cool!
08:14 Feedback or Feed Forward?
10:50 Conclusion
12:18 Support me! - Навчання та стиль
Pro tip: to get lower ratio, reduce the incoming audio signal level into the compressor and use deeper threshold instead. (use the Level Cal knob, top right corner)
This. A vari mu has a level dependant ratio, that is why this works.
You're the only plugin reviewer that reviews plugins with some technical knowledge in layman's terms. Your work is appreciated 👍👍
He's good, but...
Panorama Mixing & Mastering > White Sea Stuido
Not even close.
I prefer the White Noise Audio channel over (this guy's) White Sea Studio channel, mostly because of this guy's bleh personality and limited interactivity with commenters. And then of course there's Dan Worrall and Mixing with Mike.
First one in a long time where I said "wow" out loud. Then said it a few more times during the demo. I haven't bought anything in a long time but I think I may just buy this. I'm impressed.
Thanks for this video, I picked this up a few weeks back and it’s literally on every buss track I use now… such great character.
The "Look at this! Woah" moment sent my dog into barking mode 😆. I am also going to try this thing out because the coloring sounded amazing even on my crappy laptop speakers.
There is a trial....just downloaded it....Loved your enthusiasm with this one!
i LOVE the sound of this plugin. Going on the wishlist.
Honey Take My Hand - Cody Francis
Wooooo! Two seconds in and I’m already super excited at a varis plugin!! Hell yeah!!!
The rather subtle saturation and it's coloration is reminding me of Kush plugins.
Didn't heard about that company before, but damn, thats one hell of a great plugin.
They did it so well!!! Might pay more attention to their hardware more now... feeling this one lot!!!
you should do so..
Whoa! Looks cool, but yeah, yet another fancy compressor... 😃🎶🎵
Thanks. Great song and gorgeous sounding analog multitrack.
Simple digital feedback usually needs at least a one sample delay. For the most part, that's not enough to mention, but it's definitely a longer delay than you'd get in analog feedback. Course, feedback compression is mathematically indistinguishable from feedforward compression with a clean blend, which requires no delay at all.
Nice review (as always). Best remix of Sandstorm by far 🙂
song name Honey Take My Hand - Cody Francis
Great sounding track, White Sea!
This one seems really solid. Feels pretty convincing. Would be cool to be able to slight adjust the ratio because.... Well it is a plugin.
Kazrog's got something up it's sleeve...interesting that this plugin is being reviewed. I'd hold on spending money on this until Kazrog releases their next plugin.
Oh? I use their transformer and vintage compressor plugs. I love them. Thanks for the heads up.
Kazorg is doing an optical compressor
9:34 yes imagine using a sidechain as the detection and using it self as the sidechain post FX ( you can actual route it in a daw and tranform a feed forward to a feed back)
I can answer about feedback compression in digital its a sum at the end of the algorithm in feed forward its input * compressed input in feedback its output * compressed input (laymans terms much more complex if you look at the whole algo)
love the graphic or design of vst
I loved that version of Sandstorm.
It really seems special!
that's a lovely mix
Sounds really really good
This is VERY nice !!
That thing sounds divine!!!
This sounds good but…Tim Pethericks Blu Mu and Cupwise FUCTI MU for nebula and they are both live analog sampled
Sound like this but a lot better
The price is half of what I was expecting, so that’s nice.
Awesome !
It has a great sound. Definitely not like any other I have. The DEMO only lasts 3 min on my system then just zero outs. No warning. It says 10 min for the demo on the plugin to start and on the website
Would love to see a Vari-Mu battle pushing those plugins to the limit. Especially if it includes my boy MagicDeathEye, I try to take it off my chain but it always comes back
It's really good to hear good things about MagicDeathEye. I've been intrigued to try it, especially since getting DDMF's new GrandEQ, which is about as clean and effective EQ as I've used.
@@BF-up5xw Wow, GrandEQ actually looks exactly how I wanted an analog style EQ to look. Gotta give it a try. As for MagicDeathEye, please try it. I've been using both the normal and stereo mastering versions (despite the different models, both are stereo) for years. I just can't take it off my chain, I get great compression from it with a fraction of time, interface real state and CPU usage of most other compressors.
@@GrandmasterKnox You're right, I've got to try it!
I was planning to do a very in-depth test of different (mostly Fairchild-style) vari mu software compressors actually.
Somewhat similar to what Hasan Delen has performed, but with plenty of different settings, test types, gain staging, etc.
The video is still in the planning phase though as I'm trying to get the most comprehensive and comparable test results.
Love the song your testing 🥰
Honey Take My Hand - Cody Francis
Hey Wytse, he's just using the Focus button to change any parameter that his mouse pointer is hovered over.
Oh man..... I can't decide if this or the Magic Death Eye Stereo is the way to go. Im leaning towards Islander just because its newer and MDE is a couple years older and Im guessing the technology might be better as plugins get better year to year. Any thoughts??
Handcrafted Labs makes amazing hardware units at affordable prices.
I always relish those rare occasions when my face and Whytse's face are doing the exact same thing (@ 5:56 )--it's "THAT sound" 😵 Gonna see if I can unload my Pulsar Mu which I've never gotten on with, and pick up this puppy. OT butHave you ever reviewed the McDSP APB series? Always been curious about those.
We will see.
Why are there not enough Shure level loc style limiters, the only one I can find is devil loc, and maybe decapitator if you’re reaching, seems like there should be more competition
Check out Tone Empire Loc-Ness.
Is it better than Tokyo Dawn's Molot?
SOUNDS AWSOME:))
can anyone educate me if they implemented autogain or not? thx in advance.
good song, thx for demo
Honey Take My Hand - Cody Francis
why not tested more any differences between the oversampling settings? 😎
Sorry to hear you still haven't mastered your UF-8. You have to change the control knob mode to plugin to get it to act as your mouse wheel button.(depressing it). The plugin has to support mouse wheel scroll controls for it to work. Test by hovering over a plugin control and using the scroll wheel to change parameters. If you're successful, then the UF-8 can control it. I use the encoder section on my left UF8 as transport control and my right UF-8 as plugin control. 😊
I use the loupedeck ct for that and a lot more… it’s so versatile and needs less deskspace 👍🏽
@@frankbohle755If you're a podcaster or streamer then yes. The Loupedeck looks like a toy sadly. I would be hard pressed to see anyone incorporating one of those into a serious studio, home or professional.
@@Bronwyn031 up to you, ... but I'm not a podcaster or streamer. All I can say is, it's not a "toy" and I feel very comfortable with it... 😏
C’est la vie 🤷🏿♀
Level gain always a red flag.
Who's the artist today? Got a really nice 70s vinyl sound going on. I almost feel like I'm watching Harold and Maude.
I generally don't mix anything slow enough for Vari Mu compressors, but this sounds good to my ears anyway.
I concur! He's not the usual Sandstorm artist. Nice voice, and the plugin was also very good.
@@syjwg Yeah, I normally listen to extreme death metal, but this sounds like something my dad would have put on the hi-fi on a rainy Sunday afternoon when I was a kid.
Sounds ace. 🤘🤘
The song is called "Honey Take My Hand" by Cody Francis
ya i'm wondering if it's a running gag it's always called Sandstorm by Darude 🤔
Damn, man. This sounds NICE
You are getting better with the nails dude !! Rock with that !
impressive
Isn't it pumpy everytime on bar one?
Damn great song!!!!
Love the song 🥲
Honey Take My Hand - Cody Francis
Noice Track... Noice mix.. Noice Plug in...
I just want to have a Puff & Stuff.
How would you compare this to the Pulsar MU Comp?
I did a quick shootout with the demo Vs MU. They sound different, both great. Mu excelled more at the warm gluey vibe, the islander had a bit more range of what it could do and was capable of some faster snappier compression to my ear (for a Vari-Mu). It’s attack and release seem more program dependent and it feels a little more idiot proof to me in that all the settings are just different flavors of good. The saturation is very different from Mu, and it can get a brighter sound without being hash. Both are good, and after trying the demo I want to buy it not as a replacement for Mu but as another good option to have in some situations.
@@psybursonic hey man, thank you for this write up, interesting! =)
Well it's really really good
Changed that title fast :)
nice
Nobody's voice is as good as Dan's. Feedback vs. Feed forward is explained at about 4:20+ in the promo-vid. Sidechaining before or after compression. This thing sounds promising, well done!
Can't decide what's better - song or compressor. Is this song released allready?
3 years old song. "Honey Take My Hand - Cody Francis"
Vari-Nail.
one compressor to rule them all?
Does the world need yet another compressor plugin? Apparently so...
4:25 aliasing go brrrrr
This is not aliasing....
Torille! 🔥
Is this the very first time you don't bitch about this kind of UI??? 😁😉 Then it must be a super Plugin. And to be honest. It sounded great. Thanks for the review!
No output gain? That's a dealbreaker for sure :(
Your Sandstorm by Darude sounds like a different song every time…🤨
And It's not expensive...?! 😳😯
What song is this?
Honey Take My Hand - Cody Francis
The hardware version is only $2,499.
If I want to turn off oversampling I should have the option, cpu power.
No
@@Whiteseastudio Triple Yes, choice is power.
It’d be better to add an option to choose the oversampling by default as well as no oversampling by default if the CPU power is on the first place.
@@bennthirteen3701Wytse has such a powerful MAC so he thinks that everything should fit his preferences, choice is power!🔥
dont work with protools
That "μ" Mu thing is pronounced incorrectly .... its Manleys way to name the Variable Delta compressor but keep in mind that the Greek letter " μ" refers to gain ane its pronounced
" Me" not Mu and not Moo......
What happened to the graphics rant Wietze?
It sounds good, but the oversampling setting on the plugin GUI has no effect. At least with the AU version on my Mac. While at the same time external oversampling is working. Strange...
apparently this plugin is not compatible with Russian musicians
Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
No auto-gain, boost when you activate it and nothing to bitch about ? strange.
Too many plugin in the market
Comment for da algorithm
Streak count: 141
The clipping made my ears hurt
Came from the fantastic Magic Death Eye Stereo video to this one. Both incredible. What a sound, just wow!
I take it the SSL gear went back
Shame, was looking forward to your review. Personally I love the uc1 and recent picked up a uf8 secondhand. If you use the channel strip plugins then the operation of the uf8 becomes quite marvellous, though I can see why some people are put off with its basic Makie mode.
Seems like a facelift of Molot by TokyoDawnRecords (Vlad)
Doesn’t really look anything like Molot to me… 🤔
Well, good, but nothing special as it should be)
Дякуєм 💙💛✨
seems kinda biased. aren't there a lot of other plugins that can do the same thing? good and subtle is not really enough, the plugins we use are already doing that.
Ukraine flag 😅
As a Ukrainian, I love the Ukrainian flag in the centre of the plugin (and the top left hint as well, of course)! :D
That's why I would not buy it. Political propaganda bullshit
I read that this company is Ukrainian based but the website says they have since relocated to... somewhere else. I already own most of the popular compressor plugins but maybe i will purchase this plugin if any proceeds go to repelling Russia from Ukraine.
Handcrafted Labs still based in Kyiv Ukraine
Also it’s a Ukrainian based company and it’s good to give them support over there in a very difficult time. Fairly priced as well. Will try the demo!
Thank you very much for understanding the situation of Ukraine and supporting it’s side, much much appreciated by music producers here 🙏🙏🙏
Ukraine is doing so well and deserves freedom. This company shows the world Ukraine has a rightful place in the markets of liberal democracy. 🇺🇲💛💙🏁
thank, we all in Ukraine appreciate every support from Ukraine 🙏🙏🙏💛💙 . It help us to spread the word about war and remind that if Ukraine will fall - Europe is next.
Ukraine is getting obliterated
Liberal democracy?😂😂😂
@@Root_music_ what is funny?
As long as Ukraine is the puppet of Western countries and puts weapons on the border to Russia it should not complain.
What has this plugin got to do with Ukraine? What the hell is wrong with people?
Putting the flag of Ukraine doesn't make it sound analogous. The science.
@@AntonVorozhtsov bravo
@@AntonVorozhtsov krasava)
It's unfair to companies or viewers to use an analyzer and create a conclusion based on that. If you can't hear with your ears, there's something wrong. At a point, this becomes like a weird 'quality' control where you're putting it through a machine and letting the machine judge. We're musicians, and we can use our ears.
Glory to Ukraine!
Yeah, the motherland of democracy and freedom. Right...
@@PatbwoyWho said that? You? People are fighting for their lives, family and land over there against pure dumbf*ck evil. Time to choose sides boy, what will it be?
yes is that a Ukrainian flag in the center of the plug-in?
@@helisoma exactly
That everyone else is paying for 🙄
Glorious
Really? Another video complaining about something?
But isn't it just a plain old digital compressor and not a great analog modeled compressor? As it he's no saturation or anything on it. Every single piece of analog kit does have those things. And each one is unique because of that and why we want plugin versions of it, and why your studio is all analog! So where the analog saturation here? I don't see it, and in youtube am certainly not gonna hear it.... Soooo basically it's just a standard compressor you get in your daw that's wrapped in an analog box. Not sure why you like it.
A plugin with a link to a pro Ukraine anti Russia website. F that. leave politics out of the musical plugin world
genocide is not "politics"
@@djzz1978 regardless, it should not by in plugins. So are you going to develop a plugin against whales killing or pro lbtgq? Stop being ridiculous
@@patriziomameli9812 Anything that can help get attention matters.
the fact that it caused such a reaction in you just shows what you are.
@@djzz1978 then i believe this moral high ground should be maintained at all times. But let's be honest it's not going to happen. I truly believe Russia is on the wrong side here but Ukraine is no becon of all sunshine and rainbows when you read a little bit about them it gets pretty clear they ain't saints and as far as US of A is considered , they currently top the charts of the most hypocrite and A* hole of a nation beating Russia by some margin.
@@Noir_music what are you talking about?