I was hoping to see how it was to press the buttons at the back as I like to hit the back buttons rather than face so I can keep my thumbs on the stick. This was a great review, but wish that part was covered!
I got mine today and I can say the back buttons are great! I’ve had all the pro controllers and this controller takes the cake by far. Especially for the price point
ALMOST purchased this until I saw detailed latency testing. Apparently the button/sticks and overall latency is higher than advertised. My DualSesne Edge is still faster so no way I get this but was tempted. For me I take speed over any features/design for competitive FPS gaming.
My only complaint on the V4P is the inconsistent stick tension. At max setting my left analogue stick is much tighter than my right stick. I would've liked the tighter tension on my right stick for aiming.
from now on they could always improve "base stats" such as weight, quality, battery life, or even price! they could always add more colors or form factors even. I actually prefer the dualsense's shape over the xbox's but we all know that sony tends to bring down the hammer on those things
i’ve gotten 2 vader 4 pros now and both came with a left trigger stop that had some play before the click. like a little bit of travel, then click. only on the left triggers. is this just a quality control issue? before i order a third i want to confirm someone has one with equal trigger stops lol
@@RetroBreezeYT That's great! I think I'm gonna pick it up soon, because it looks pretty solid compared to Xbox Elite or DualSense Edge which are 3-4 times the price of Vader 4 Pro. It's a shame that a regular DualSense controller doesn't have back buttons. I remember playing The Witcher 3 on a controller. On a keyboard you could access various menus/screens directly with a single hotkey, but on a controller you had to go through an extra menu. So if I could eg. map the 'm' button to one of the extra buttons on the controller to open a map directly without going through an extra menu, that would be sick :D Especially since there are 6 extra buttons on Vader 4 Pro. Mapping Quick Save / Quick load would also be great. Noice.
can you use the aftermarket replaceable thumbsticks? i see these say comaptible with apex 4 and vader 3 but for some reason didnt say vader 4. i like taller one on right stick.
@@silviocaeiro7158 unfortunately I don't own an Xbox, but I'm doubtful it will work because Microsoft makes it very difficult for third party accessory manufacturers.
Rubber decays over time and gets very sticky and gross, so any controller with rubber will not last the test of time. You can by rubber adhesive kits for this controller on AliExpress though!
Does anyone have weak vibration in nintendo switch mode (d input) like my v4p? I even max the vibration but it can't vibrate as strong compare to the pc mode (x input)
@@RetroBreezeYT you mean if game supports it not me activating it because on the regular dongle mode or wired you activate gyro by mapping it to back button to turn it on. Unlike switch mode I don’t think it’s possible which is a big downside
Historically FlyDigi limited editions have been very limited. At least overseas because usually their license for whatever properties are valid in China only.
Hey should i get these or gamesir g7 he/se? Gamesir is £20 cheaper and i only play fps games. I just need 2 back buttons and comfortably is important for me, not to forget polling rate
I was hoping to see how it was to press the buttons at the back as I like to hit the back buttons rather than face so I can keep my thumbs on the stick. This was a great review, but wish that part was covered!
I got mine today and I can say the back buttons are great! I’ve had all the pro controllers and this controller takes the cake by far. Especially for the price point
they are not accessible and hard to hit , wish they were bigger , similar to XBOX ones ..
They’re terrible placement for me. Others love them, but I have stubby fingers and they suck.
ALMOST purchased this until I saw detailed latency testing. Apparently the button/sticks and overall latency is higher than advertised. My DualSesne Edge is still faster so no way I get this but was tempted. For me I take speed over any features/design for competitive FPS gaming.
My only complaint on the V4P is the inconsistent stick tension. At max setting my left analogue stick is much tighter than my right stick. I would've liked the tighter tension on my right stick for aiming.
I don’t have that issue on mine. It feels tighter with my left thumb but comparing with the same thumb they feel the same.
whish that v shape ambient light would represent battery charge sstate
Good point, but at least the dinky little led on the front does the job 😅
from now on they could always improve "base stats" such as weight, quality, battery life, or even price!
they could always add more colors or form factors even. I actually prefer the dualsense's shape over the xbox's but we all know that sony tends to bring down the hammer on those things
I came to find out about the back buttons, but very little mention.
Why don't you even mention the outer ring deadzone? It's kind of unacceptable atm.
Adjustable stick tension just breaks my little lizard brain...
It’s the best
It's crazy but I love it!
They could’ve made the Vader 4 pro with rubber grips like the apex 4! Then that would be perfect.
Really great, thorough review! Definitely considering this as my next pc controller
Glad you liked it!
Why is there a promo controller for a 10 year old game?
I was wondering the same thing 😅
you must try the new big big won blitz 2 which has the NEW TMR STICKS!!!!
so can i play steam games on my gaming laptop with this?
Absolutely! Using a wire, Bluetooth or dongle!
Please how can you enable the gyrscope on direwolf 2 on phones ??
i’ve gotten 2 vader 4 pros now and both came with a left trigger stop that had some play before the click. like a little bit of travel, then click. only on the left triggers.
is this just a quality control issue?
before i order a third i want to confirm someone has one with equal trigger stops lol
What adapter are you using to connect dongle to iPad.
Is it possible to assign keyboard keys to back buttons? For example, can I assign escape key to M1 back button?
Yes you can using the FlyDigi Space Station software! You can even assign the mouse to the analog sticks.
@@RetroBreezeYT That's great! I think I'm gonna pick it up soon, because it looks pretty solid compared to Xbox Elite or DualSense Edge which are 3-4 times the price of Vader 4 Pro. It's a shame that a regular DualSense controller doesn't have back buttons.
I remember playing The Witcher 3 on a controller. On a keyboard you could access various menus/screens directly with a single hotkey, but on a controller you had to go through an extra menu. So if I could eg. map the 'm' button to one of the extra buttons on the controller to open a map directly without going through an extra menu, that would be sick :D Especially since there are 6 extra buttons on Vader 4 Pro. Mapping Quick Save / Quick load would also be great. Noice.
can you use the aftermarket replaceable thumbsticks? i see these say comaptible with apex 4 and vader 3 but for some reason didnt say vader 4. i like taller one on right stick.
Yes, they're the same sticks as the Apex 4 and Vader 3 🙂
@@RetroBreezeYT just got my vader4 pro and it’s by far the best yet. I love this thing
At 7:50, the software page in video is for apex 4 or vader 4?
The clip is an example from my Apex 4 review, but the software is the same for the Vader 4 Pro
How can I make it work on console.
Has the 20 percent outer deadzone been fixed?
yep
Is the dongle included? I play on Xbox and I don't know if it's compatible
It is included, but I'm not sure if it's Xbox compatible.
@@RetroBreezeYT It's a shame it doesn't..it seems like a good control to me. Is there any way to make a video and test if it works?
@@silviocaeiro7158 unfortunately I don't own an Xbox, but I'm doubtful it will work because Microsoft makes it very difficult for third party accessory manufacturers.
I have the controller and gulikit Goku on the way I'll let you know if it works
Rubber grips would have been nicer than hard plastic
Rubber decays over time and gets very sticky and gross, so any controller with rubber will not last the test of time. You can by rubber adhesive kits for this controller on AliExpress though!
@RetroBreezeYT replacement grips are probably smarter. I do like the thick grips on the apex 4 though.
Does anyone have weak vibration in nintendo switch mode (d input) like my v4p? I even max the vibration but it can't vibrate as strong compare to the pc mode (x input)
cant download the software website is unsecure so all in all a fail
Does it has hall sensor sticks?
Yes it does!
@@RetroBreezeYT not to mention it has its own design and dosent have tension springs so its 100 stick drift proof
Can i use the included dongle with a lightning adapter for ios?
Is it worth gettting from the 3 even though my 3 is fine
Good question. Unless the adjustable sticks are essential to you, I'd stick with the 3 Pro.
Are thumbsticks removable?
Yes and compatible with Vader 3/Apex 4 sticks.
loud controller? with a headset i doubt anyone will notice that lol
I'm more thinking your family around you!
Hey how do I turn gyro on switch
It'll work by default as long as it's in Switch mode
@@RetroBreezeYT you mean if game supports it not me activating it because on the regular dongle mode or wired you activate gyro by mapping it to back button to turn it on. Unlike switch mode I don’t think it’s possible which is a big downside
@@corpingtons ah yes global gyro is not available on Switch.
Does it work with PS5 ?
No it does not
Does it work on ps5
I don't believe so
Is the dongle included? I play on Xbox and I don't know if it's compatible
i believe u need Rewasd to use with xbox or ps5
@@--AISAKA and connected with the cable?
I can pretty much guarantee that that "only making 500" assassins creed controllers is just a straight up lie.
Historically FlyDigi limited editions have been very limited. At least overseas because usually their license for whatever properties are valid in China only.
@@RetroBreezeYT Not in the timeline I live in lol.
in my country, there is still plenty of AC unit. However, black colour all sold out until now and unfortunately i was too late to grab it
@@RetroBreezeYTnot hard to clone the casing and switch it
have you tried the dpad with fighting games?
This is the real question
Hey should i get these or gamesir g7 he/se? Gamesir is £20 cheaper and i only play fps games. I just need 2 back buttons and comfortably is important for me, not to forget polling rate