I got myself off caffeine years ago by taking adrenal support like ginseng, licorice extract, herbs. I think that’s key in weaning off of it by feeding the adrenals vs draining them with caffeine. Great conversation!
This was such a great collaboration. Would definitely like to see/hear more! Irene, a collaboration of you with Andrew Huberman would also be such an asset. And even so much more if the three of you would do something together, so much knowledge on various fields. Love this. ❤
Such a wealth of valuable information created by connecting two holistic approaches to the functioning of the body. This is the kind of incisive understanding which should be the first stage of treating illness, that is, addressing the food poverty, in nutritional terms, that exists in first world countries particularly. Although I've ventured down the SE path and also the Nutrition path, this video has created an essential commonality of approach for people seeking answers that are not provided by allopathic medicine. Thanks for throwing the net wide.
Omg the podcast you did on her show is one of my favorite episodes you’ve been on - I might be biased because I love when you go into more societal topics but it was also so natural and you could tell she was really interested!
Thank you, such a valuable conversation❤️ I’m functional medicine practitioner, and I’m also familiar with your work, which I love. And I’ve done lots of work around my own trauma. Im so happy to see neuroscience combined with nutrition💓 We really need to bring more of it!
This is so fascinating 🙏🏼💗💥 1:22:00 some cool info on food consumption in the evening I would love to hear some of Kitty’s opinions on how a ketogenic diet and/or intermittent fasting (eg a shorter eating window each day) interacts with this
I heard the statement about not (?) using magnesium citrate as the preferable magnesium supplement. If I heard that right could an explanation be given as to why that's the case and a recommendation as to an alternative compound form be offered? Thanks
@@annettepriceThanks for replying. I'd noticed the specific brand, but I wanted to understand why citrate, in particular, is contraindicated in bowel healing, and which alternative (for example, magnesium taurate or chloride) is most appropriate. I live in England and I've yet to check whether Jigsaw products are available here, but I like to have an informed choice anyway. I've checked the Jigsaw website and it states Malate, Glycinate and L-Threonate are their alternative compounds, so that gives me specifics. They use Glycinate in Magsoothe. I often use Solgar products and I have some M. Citrate of theirs so I wanted to know why I shouldn't use that. I really appreciate your input. Thanks.
Omg even the first few minutes..insomnia, gut issues, uterine issues/(thickened lining and constant pain , adenomyosis?) Due to presumed increased esteogen.. omg all this ties in exactly with everything I'm experiencing!!!! Also.. my chiropractor stopped my uterine pain and I was able to stop taking BCP for that. .
I was born premature, as one of the triplets, and didn't get breasfed from my mom. Now I can see why I feel it's difficult to turn off the survival trauma I got from birth.
@elvitanatassa7707, Jen here from Irene's Team. It's good to hear this video helped to grow your awareness of the connection between your history and your present day experience. This special topic Q&A about early developmental trauma might also be of interest to you: ua-cam.com/video/78Qix0D6eLk/v-deo.html
@susandennison1295 - Seth here with Team Lyon. If you find that you are woken up by the moonlight then it may be a good idea to get curtains. If it doesn't bother you then it shouldn't interfere with your Circadian Rhythm.
I had my blood work done and it turns out my magnesium was on the higher side. I was taking it before my bloodwork and felt so great but my doctor said to get off it🤷🏻♀️
Hi Phyllis, Seth here with team Lyon. Great curiosity! Simply put - the brain works the best when the gut is working the best! Our gut health provides a very strong neurochemical influence over how the brain functions, for example, it is the main producer of serotonin, which is crucial for good mental function. Also, when the gut is in distress, this is very often a sign of unresolved survival energy in the nervous system (aka unresolved trauma). The main parts of the brain associated with memory are the amygdala (fear based memories), hippocampus (declarative and episodic memory) cerebellum (procedural memory), and pre-frontal cortex (semantic memory - tasks, lists). When we have unresolved trauma in our system, the limbic area and brain stem will be very active, and often 'living in the past', meaning they are still responding to threats that aren't happening any more. Specifically, the amygdala and cerebellum will be VERY active as they are the most associated with survival responses, so we may have lots of painful memories that are hard to escape and keep looping because these parts of our brains insist the danger is still happening. So that takes up a lot of bandwidth! As such, it can be much harder to access the much more pleasant memories associated with the cerebellum and the memory system of the pre-frontal cortex, which governs everyday things like shopping lists, where you put the keys down, etc.. For more on this, I highly recommend Peter Levine's book - Trauma and Memory.
Hi Irene, what do you mean by “I know what works in my suite of work, but God we just don’t know what’s going on?” Do you mean that you know what works to heal the nervous system and trauma, but don’t know exactly how and why it happens? I’m a bit confused. Thank you!
Hi Lauren Jazy, Jen here from Team Lyon. Would you mind adding a time stamp to your question so I can check out the exact reference? It will help me to find it. Thank you!
I am sick from mold exposure is kitty helped people going trough that?mast cell activation Syndrome,supplements have been terrible and of no help…I’m working on my nervous system now …..I react to everything I eat ….some get me to Er so I do total avoidance like kale,blueberries etc…I react to so many things
Hi Aiko Shimada, Jen here from Team Lyon. Details about specific supplements are beyond the scope of what we do here, and generally speaking when people have a history or trauma, and early trauma in particular, it's not uncommon to have paradoxical and unexpected responses.
I enjoyed this collaboration, and followed onto Kitty's work - but I am still unsure of her credentials? While I am happy to hear her experiences, I am unsure what her teaching is based in - nutritional consultant and a journalist - I can't see a lot there. Lived experience I am sure, but I had to dig to find this; but on Insta in the first scroll there was a bit of questionable vaccine/voting info for a public page. Just not sure. 🚩
I got myself off caffeine years ago by taking adrenal support like ginseng, licorice extract, herbs. I think that’s key in weaning off of it by feeding the adrenals vs draining them with caffeine. Great conversation!
This was such a great collaboration. Would definitely like to see/hear more! Irene, a collaboration of you with Andrew Huberman would also be such an asset. And even so much more if the three of you would do something together, so much knowledge on various fields. Love this. ❤
YES!!!!!!
I agree🙂👍
Such a wealth of valuable information created by connecting two holistic approaches to the functioning of the body. This is the kind of incisive understanding which should be the first stage of treating illness, that is, addressing the food poverty, in nutritional terms, that exists in first world countries particularly. Although I've ventured down the SE path and also the Nutrition path, this video has created an essential commonality of approach for people seeking answers that are not provided by allopathic medicine. Thanks for throwing the net wide.
Omg the podcast you did on her show is one of my favorite episodes you’ve been on - I might be biased because I love when you go into more societal topics but it was also so natural and you could tell she was really interested!
Could you add chapters to these longer videos? That would help a lot
My God in heaven, I appreciate these two generous & well informed people❤
I would love for you two to have a regular podcast!
Use of an Ethernet cable is really easy, and you can totally get rid of the wi-fi. I loved this video so much! Thank you, Irene and Kitty!
Thank you, such a valuable conversation❤️ I’m functional medicine practitioner, and I’m also familiar with your work, which I love. And I’ve done lots of work around my own trauma. Im so happy to see neuroscience combined with nutrition💓 We really need to bring more of it!
Yes! More please 🥰
Such a rich and informative discussion. Learnt so many little tweaks I can make. Thanks so much for putting this out.
Wow this is one of the best interviews
Any talk around this subject would be so beneficial. Thank you ladies perfect timing.
This is so fascinating 🙏🏼💗💥
1:22:00 some cool info on food consumption in the evening
I would love to hear some of Kitty’s opinions on how a ketogenic diet and/or intermittent fasting (eg a shorter eating window each day) interacts with this
Start the show! Id so listen to you two!
podcast yes!
good message
This is a great talk. I appreciate all the information.
Thank you so much, Irene and Kitty. That was very educational 🤓🍃Started following Kitty as well
This was so informative and fun to listen to! I love how you both tied this into real life examples and your own experiences.
Could you link the pre biotcs please
I heard the statement about not (?) using magnesium citrate as the preferable magnesium supplement. If I heard that right could an explanation be given as to why that's the case and a recommendation as to an alternative compound form be offered? Thanks
There’s an alternative form recommended in the notes on this video - Jigsaw brand.
@@annettepriceThanks for replying. I'd noticed the specific brand, but I wanted to understand why citrate, in particular, is contraindicated in bowel healing, and which alternative (for example, magnesium taurate or chloride) is most appropriate.
I live in England and I've yet to check whether Jigsaw products are available here, but I like to have an informed choice anyway.
I've checked the Jigsaw website and it states Malate, Glycinate and L-Threonate are their alternative compounds, so that gives me specifics. They use Glycinate in Magsoothe.
I often use Solgar products and I have some M. Citrate of theirs so I wanted to know why I shouldn't use that.
I really appreciate your input. Thanks.
You're AWESOME! Thank you for sharing.
Omg even the first few minutes..insomnia, gut issues, uterine issues/(thickened lining and constant pain , adenomyosis?) Due to presumed increased esteogen.. omg all this ties in exactly with everything I'm experiencing!!!! Also.. my chiropractor stopped my uterine pain and I was able to stop taking BCP for that. .
Gotta love L.A. lol❤
And now Venice!🤯
I was born premature, as one of the triplets, and didn't get breasfed from my mom. Now I can see why I feel it's difficult to turn off the survival trauma I got from birth.
@elvitanatassa7707, Jen here from Irene's Team. It's good to hear this video helped to grow your awareness of the connection between your history and your present day experience. This special topic Q&A about early developmental trauma might also be of interest to you: ua-cam.com/video/78Qix0D6eLk/v-deo.html
Thank you to you both for sharing.
How would a chronic long term undiagnosed Candida infection in the small bowell affect you?
I would add choose organic mold free coffee like kicking horse if your in Canada….really makes a difference
question: I live in the country and do not have curtains - the moon sets often right out my window. I wonder about moon light during sleep.
@susandennison1295 - Seth here with Team Lyon. If you find that you are woken up by the moonlight then it may be a good idea to get curtains. If it doesn't bother you then it shouldn't interfere with your Circadian Rhythm.
Thank you for this great content! You two should definitely collaborate in a podcast or do something. Great Stuff! Loved it. Thank you!
I had my blood work done and it turns out my magnesium was on the higher side. I was taking it before my bloodwork and felt so great but my doctor said to get off it🤷🏻♀️
I am looking forward to more videos/podcast from you together!
I'm curious about the potential relationship between Gut health and Memory.
Hi Phyllis, Seth here with team Lyon. Great curiosity! Simply put - the brain works the best when the gut is working the best! Our gut health provides a very strong neurochemical influence over how the brain functions, for example, it is the main producer of serotonin, which is crucial for good mental function.
Also, when the gut is in distress, this is very often a sign of unresolved survival energy in the nervous system (aka unresolved trauma). The main parts of the brain associated with memory are the amygdala (fear based memories), hippocampus (declarative and episodic memory) cerebellum (procedural memory), and pre-frontal cortex (semantic memory - tasks, lists).
When we have unresolved trauma in our system, the limbic area and brain stem will be very active, and often 'living in the past', meaning they are still responding to threats that aren't happening any more. Specifically, the amygdala and cerebellum will be VERY active as they are the most associated with survival responses, so we may have lots of painful memories that are hard to escape and keep looping because these parts of our brains insist the danger is still happening. So that takes up a lot of bandwidth! As such, it can be much harder to access the much more pleasant memories associated with the cerebellum and the memory system of the pre-frontal cortex, which governs everyday things like shopping lists, where you put the keys down, etc..
For more on this, I highly recommend Peter Levine's book - Trauma and Memory.
Oh I want to hear more about creatine - my son takes it.
wait but what do we do if we have constipation? And I bet my sleep hormones kick in at opposite times from when they're supposed to, now what?
Hi Irene, what do you mean by “I know what works in my suite of work, but God we just don’t know what’s going on?” Do you mean that you know what works to heal the nervous system and trauma, but don’t know exactly how and why it happens? I’m a bit confused. Thank you!
Hi Lauren Jazy, Jen here from Team Lyon. Would you mind adding a time stamp to your question so I can check out the exact reference? It will help me to find it. Thank you!
I am sick from mold exposure is kitty helped people going trough that?mast cell activation Syndrome,supplements have been terrible and of no help…I’m working on my nervous system now …..I react to everything I eat ….some get me to Er so I do total avoidance like kale,blueberries etc…I react to so many things
If not Meg mil does.
I get bad palpitation when I take melatonin. Why does it do that for some people?
Hi Aiko Shimada, Jen here from Team Lyon. Details about specific supplements are beyond the scope of what we do here, and generally speaking when people have a history or trauma, and early trauma in particular, it's not uncommon to have paradoxical and unexpected responses.
I enjoyed this collaboration, and followed onto Kitty's work - but I am still unsure of her credentials? While I am happy to hear her experiences, I am unsure what her teaching is based in - nutritional consultant and a journalist - I can't see a lot there. Lived experience I am sure, but I had to dig to find this; but on Insta in the first scroll there was a bit of questionable vaccine/voting info for a public page. Just not sure. 🚩
"how come my doc doesnt know about this?" 😅 Simply because they dont make profit knowing about it 😛
Thank you so much for this insightful and helpful conversation! I've learned so much!