I haven’t watched this show but I will get to it. Personally I think this is the seems to be the best portrayal of social anxiety/stress mixed with pessimism rather than depression because I’m not depressed at all (though I was years ago) and since I can remember I’ve always had the same exact inner monologue and I still do. It’s just that depression just makes your anxiety and stress much worse which makes that voice in your head especially harsh. That super self-loathing and critical voice in my head is always there it doesn’t matter if I’m depressed or not. Though I think maybe it’s because once you’ve experienced depression your brain is never the same and you definitely become more pessimistic and tend to use drugs to cope with life a lot more maybe due to an addiction you’ve developed while going through all that.
I didn’t even make this connection until I read this comment, oh my god. Also, at that moment the portrayal of Beatrice with devil horns for ears and fires in the background reminds me of when Joseph Sugarman tells Bea “you wouldn’t want to end up like your mother, would you” You know, when he attempted to poison his daughter against her own mother
@@gerarquiaFM Can be either or. It represents a myriad of things, and shouldn't be pigeonholed into one representation. Depression, anxiety, BPD, it describes all three of those things, maybe more.
@@callmeobsequious for me it's actually quite reminiscent to how my OCD manifests in my brain. Especially with just how fast and unending the thoughts are, the random extremely tenuous connections, etc.
Yeah and Bojack and everyone with depression who watches knows that, but Bojack doesn't want to scare Hollyhock. When she asked that it broke my heart and brought me to tears because I know it never does go away.
I always thought it was normal to hear this voice in your head 24/7. I'm constantly telling myself how much of an idiot I am, how the people I love don't care about me at all, and how I deserve nothing 'cause I'm a worthless piece of shit. Then I watch this episode, and I realize that voice is called depression.
I've just decided to use my voice to stop me from getting a big ego and I've also learned when to ignore it as well. (BTW I'm not bragging or anything I'm just saying that's my experience and also even though I don't know who you are I'm willing to bet your BF is a lucky guy if he's dating you)
I realized that too, i thought "oh this is normal" and i just called it *the voice* but I've learned it's my depression, and I'm happy i haven't heard *the voice* in a while 'cause before i heard it every second of the day.
This isn't just a depression thing. That voice exists for a lot of people, and having a healthy balance with it is good. It's there to cast doubt on you, which helps with formulating different perspectives so you're not in an echochamber. If it's too powerful, though, it ends up like this.
Watch it. You feel way less in the dark and alone with your thoughts.It really helps knowing that you're not alone in feeling that way. Not by a long shot.
There’s something haunting about that little riff that goes on during these scenes. And when Hollyhock starts talking about it you can hear it in the background slowly getting louder. Because even when the voice isn’t at the for front, it’s always there in back
These scenes alone tell so much about anxiety/depression to people that don't have it. It doesn't show everything about it, but it gives a clear view of how people who have it think and what is going on in our minds. How we insult ourselves more than anyone and over analyze the stupidest things and blow things way out of proportion. Our mind is filled with his shitty voice telling how shitty we are, which makes us our own worse enemy.
The Voices are the Voices of Demons. And they are real. We can only be free trough Jesus Christ. The more we Sin, the louder the bad Voices in our Head.
The way the music intensifies during that thought cycle before he speaks to Hollyhock gets me. How the thoughts just get louder and louder and _worse and worse._ It's fucking scary. For me this is strongly representative of how my BPD thoughts feel. It can be interpreted in a lot of ways though.
I hate how accurate bojack is. I overthink about my boyfriend a lot, he’s sweet and kind but my brain just tells me that I don’t deserve love and that everyone hates me, most people think I’m just being “eDgY” but my boyfriend has helped me try to overcome that voice in my head, that voice is scary dude.
Same here. I can never seem to shake this nagging feeling that my friends and my girlfriend secretly don’t like me and that they’re only sticking around cause they feel sorry for me.
What makes this so realistic is the repetition. You really tend to say things like this over and over again to yourself. Also Bojack lying about how the voice goes away at the end just breaks my heart.
I love how in one of the scenes it shows Hollyhawk falling in the pool but the way she falls looks a lot like how Bojack nearly dies in the penultimate episode
Understand that the voice doesn't want you to be better, it guilts you so you'll be worse. Guilt and shame prevent behavior, they do not inspire it. Shame can stop you from taking bad action, but it will never inspire good action. The best you can do is get yourself to stop eating the cookies. You will not make breakfast listening to the voice. And then you're still hungry and the cookies are still there.
I used to think I was the only person in the world who had this voice... it called me a 'fuck up' though, not a 'stupid piece of shit.' It would scream at me louder and louder and I remember at the time I'd get quieter and quieter. Like I was destroying myself. It's under control now but I still remember it. I never want to go back. This was the episode that really made me fall in love with this show. I hope Bojack finds his peace too.
My boss would praise me a lot at work, tell me how useful I was and what an asset to the team I was. I always brushed it off or denied it, one time she got a bit exasperated and asked what she needed to say to convince me. I pointed at my head and said "whatever will shut up this guy"
Between this and Rue from Euphoria talk about self hatred and depression and anxiety. I don't think I have seen two characters really nail so well what it is like to have lived with this shit for over 20 years now. Rue really nails the outside the manic panic stress fidgets fight or flight frustration screaming one second crying the next. Bojack would be so funny if it wasn't so freaking scary close to what I and I know others live with on a daily basis.
as someone with depression, this is so accurate it's funny. And comforting, to know you're not alone. This scene is beautiful, because some of what he says is actually true. Sarah Lynn did die because of him, he nearly molested Charlotte's daughter. He *is* an asshole. He struggles because in order to actually be a better person, and be happy, he has to accept himself and all his wrongdoings. But that's never easy, especially when you've done such horrendous things as he has. "If I act shitty, that's just because I'm shitty, and you're allowed to be mad at me, but you need to know, whatever I do, it's not your fault." This line is just so much. What's so inspiring about this show is that even at the end, Bojack is still trying to improve. He hasn't given up.
This voice used to be so loud that I could only silence it with self harm, which ironically made the voice so much louder when it returned. It got to a point where the voice mostly just screamed that I can only make things right by hurting myself because that’s what I deserved for being such a pathetic garbage person who only hurts others. It took so much before I finally accepted that it may not be true. It’s funny because the song playing in the background is about self harm. This show has a funny way of eerily relating to us
my depression is why im glad I hate the taste of booze (something about my super taster tongue makes it common) because if I got drunk and stuff i can only imagine how much worse off i'd be. Even though im doing better i relate to these thoughts in the head. especially the breakfast thing.
This is borderline to madness. I was there also, but I don´t know if it was more like anxiety or depression. But it´s not you are mad or something like that, I would say - critically overwhelmed and you can´t think straight, constantly think that everyone is talking about you and god forbid you to make one little mistake. I had to seek help - I´m not affraid to admit that and it was the only way out. And yes, this is one of the best depiction of this state of mind - I felt sick deep in my stomach.
Love that it was just silent after she asked why? And bojack did not answer. It is very relateble for allot of people that do nothing because the are depressed
3:18 Bojack is irredeemable, but the one good thing is that he tried to steer away from how his parents treated him and try to treat Hollyhock better and not blame her for his own issues
Everyone speaks about "it going away" But actually the part that shook me, was when this animation got very creative and he said: "That's why Sarah lynn died, that's why Charlotte will.never forgive you... what u gonna do a***le, what u gonna do? .." And this sht up which took him down to earth, just epic moment
I am slightly disappointed about the fade away at the end. It is to early. The facial expressions of Holly and BJ are important. She believes him and is happy with the answer, while he knows the truth and feels bad about lying.
Stop it. Stop drinking whiskey and go get some water. Stop it! Don't drink any more whiskey! Put that whiskey down! Do not drink that whiskey! *gulp* I can't believe you drank that whiskey!
God what an excellent use of Blood in the Cut. Also, I've never felt more seen by a cartoon until this scene. Steven Universe Future is a close second though.
BoJack really fucked up throughout his life, but he did right by not repeating what Beatrice told him onto Hollyhock. He could've fueled the generational trauma, and passed it on by telling her that it's a feeling she was born with and won't be able to fend off. In Beatrice's words, one of the last BJ heard from her before Alzheimer's hit, "Its not just you, you know..." "You were born broken. You are BoJack Horseman, that's your birthright. There's no cure for that." But he kept it simple and just reassured her it was a temporary feeling. It truly is a feeling many struggle with throughout their lives, but it is fucking vital to be told that there is a brighter future ahead when you're just a teenager. I get upset thinking about how far he cracked, up to taking her on a drug heist and endangering her, but I'm really grateful he wouldn't let his family's history affect her as best as he could. Hollyhock had every right to cut comminications off with him, but I like to think that she's at the very least grateful, when he let her know that she deserves better, and that hard times won't last forever.
Hey could someone explain to me why Hollyhock is just lighting up matches and then throwing them into the pool? Is there some sort of significance behind it?
It foreshadows the fact she’s being drugged. In the next few episodes after that, hollyhock does compulsive behaviors, like flipping the channels or counting all the change. Arguably it starts here.
Just a repetitive depressive behavior. They can be lighting matches, ripping out your own hair, scratching your skin, etc. just something that numbs you and you dont have to think about. I dont know if it means anything else, just seems like an extremely accurate portrayal of what depression looks like behaviorally.
I’ve always thought like this and it makes me sad that I could’ve gotten help for it earlier but my mom held me back from it I was 7, geez. A 7 year old should not have to think like that.
I moved to a whole mother state , thought I could just fake it til I make it . But mistakes were made , the voice came back . Time to go home and try again I guess .
I grew up as a toddler trying to figure out who I was & while I was at it, I had an inner voice that tells me "you suck at everything and everyone knows it" but not stupid piece of garbage, so instead of figuring out who I am, I spent time as a toddler trying to shut that inner voice down but everytime I go to school It would not go away, nobody has bullied me that time only because I was quite, so after I passed some of my classes with B's, so when summer break has started, I've spent some time trying to get rid of it but for me it wasn't easy, next thing you know I was going to the beach with some friends but I didn't want to go swimming for a few minutes BUT, when I got out of the car, I decided to stop drinking soda's & eating cookies for a while, then AFTER that I started doing eight push-ups in a row on the sand, after that my inner voice kept telling me "DO NOT hang out with them, they're bad friends" and then all of a sudden I've ignored it then got into the beach water and started talking to one of my friends & we started throwing and catching football 🏈 & then after the beach trip, I found my face in the mirror sunburned but somehow my inner voice went away and never came back, I had some good sleep at that night even though I had some sunburn on my face, the next morning my inner voice is still away from my head, but I was also told that if I ever have that inner voice, take some deep breaths & so I decided to sit in my bedroom & take some deep breaths & it felt good at first, for me it lets out anger, after I spent 5 minutes taking a deep breath, my inner voice still hasn't come back into my head, I was just chilling in my backyard & petting my dog, & then after I had dinner with my family, I just went to bed & I had a happy moment where I said "yayy, I think my inner voice is gone for good" and then next month I've realized it still hasn't come back, but I will not forget it though, the inner voice is gone forever but still can be remembered or forgotten. Nothing has bad happened to me when I've gone through some things between me & an inner voice that was stuck in my head, I wasn't bullied or hurt, but I was questioned on what was going on with me.
I've dealt with this for a long damn time. It got better when I imagined my depression as another person and just pretended to beat the hell out of him.
hollyhock, it does, but you have to work for it. you have to learn how to shut it up and replace it with a better one. it goes away, but you gotta do it every day. that’s the hard part.
There was, it’s missing the scene where he tossed his mothers baby doll off the cliff and the voices in his head make him feel better for a split second before tearing into him again.
This show has the most accurate depiction of depression I’ve ever seen. Also Will Arnetts voice shouting “SHUT UP” is oddly scary.
I haven’t watched this show but I will get to it. Personally I think this is the seems to be the best portrayal of social anxiety/stress mixed with pessimism rather than depression because I’m not depressed at all (though I was years ago) and since I can remember I’ve always had the same exact inner monologue and I still do. It’s just that depression just makes your anxiety and stress much worse which makes that voice in your head especially harsh. That super self-loathing and critical voice in my head is always there it doesn’t matter if I’m depressed or not. Though I think maybe it’s because once you’ve experienced depression your brain is never the same and you definitely become more pessimistic and tend to use drugs to cope with life a lot more maybe due to an addiction you’ve developed while going through all that.
@@gargantuanblunt when I would tell myself things like that it made me feel depressed
@@gargantuanblunt its called existential nihilism
I think it’s bpd
@@bodyrotting2023 it’s BPD
"Poison your own daughter against you" is fucking horrifying on rewatch.
I didn’t even make this connection until I read this comment, oh my god. Also, at that moment the portrayal of Beatrice with devil horns for ears and fires in the background reminds me of when Joseph Sugarman tells Bea “you wouldn’t want to end up like your mother, would you”
You know, when he attempted to poison his daughter against her own mother
*foreshadowing*
@@jkspamAnd he was right. She's really bad
oh NO
Can we just say, he’s a less bloodthirsty version of Anakin Skywalker.
This alone is the most accurate portrayal of depression I've ever seen.
Anxiety, depression is in the chapter good damage
@@gerarquiaFM Can be either or. It represents a myriad of things, and shouldn't be pigeonholed into one representation. Depression, anxiety, BPD, it describes all three of those things, maybe more.
@@callmeobsequious for me it's actually quite reminiscent to how my OCD manifests in my brain. Especially with just how fast and unending the thoughts are, the random extremely tenuous connections, etc.
Hope everyone doing good and staying safe. If you need to talk to someone or need help, there are people who care. Sending support and hearts. ❤️❤️❤️
That voice in your head never actually goes away.
You just learn to ignore it.
Yeah and Bojack and everyone with depression who watches knows that, but Bojack doesn't want to scare Hollyhock. When she asked that it broke my heart and brought me to tears because I know it never does go away.
@@TGOArchive yes exactly
you learn to combat it, replace it, until it's much quieter than it used to be.
No. you just learn to fight back...
Sometimes you manage.
I always thought it was normal to hear this voice in your head 24/7. I'm constantly telling myself how much of an idiot I am, how the people I love don't care about me at all, and how I deserve nothing 'cause I'm a worthless piece of shit.
Then I watch this episode, and I realize that voice is called depression.
I've just decided to use my voice to stop me from getting a big ego and I've also learned when to ignore it as well. (BTW I'm not bragging or anything I'm just saying that's my experience and also even though I don't know who you are I'm willing to bet your BF is a lucky guy if he's dating you)
I realized that too, i thought "oh this is normal" and i just called it *the voice* but I've learned it's my depression, and I'm happy i haven't heard *the voice* in a while 'cause before i heard it every second of the day.
Bojack is more giving me borderline vibes actually. These loud intense thoughts, mood swings..and then the alcohol thing
@@bennichol1510I use it to become a better person and thus raise my ego.
This isn't just a depression thing. That voice exists for a lot of people, and having a healthy balance with it is good. It's there to cast doubt on you, which helps with formulating different perspectives so you're not in an echochamber. If it's too powerful, though, it ends up like this.
“It goes away... right?”
"Yeah"
No
"Yeah"
😭
Right?
I’ve never watched this show, but the accuracy of this is concerning. “Stupid piece of shit” has become my personal mantra as well.
Watch it. You feel way less in the dark and alone with your thoughts.It really helps knowing that you're not alone in feeling that way. Not by a long shot.
You need to watch the show
This is the best show I've seen. Please watch it
Watch it PLEASE literally the best show
Same
There’s something haunting about that little riff that goes on during these scenes. And when Hollyhock starts talking about it you can hear it in the background slowly getting louder. Because even when the voice isn’t at the for front, it’s always there in back
Blood in the cut by k flay
@@ghostmemeboi Thank you I was trying to find the name of the song
These scenes alone tell so much about anxiety/depression to people that don't have it. It doesn't show everything about it, but it gives a clear view of how people who have it think and what is going on in our minds. How we insult ourselves more than anyone and over analyze the stupidest things and blow things way out of proportion. Our mind is filled with his shitty voice telling how shitty we are, which makes us our own worse enemy.
The Voices are the Voices of Demons. And they are real. We can only be free trough Jesus Christ. The more we Sin, the louder the bad Voices in our Head.
The way the music intensifies during that thought cycle before he speaks to Hollyhock gets me. How the thoughts just get louder and louder and _worse and worse._ It's fucking scary.
For me this is strongly representative of how my BPD thoughts feel. It can be interpreted in a lot of ways though.
That “getting her grubby hands over everything” is so accurate to me
I hate how accurate bojack is. I overthink about my boyfriend a lot, he’s sweet and kind but my brain just tells me that I don’t deserve love and that everyone hates me, most people think I’m just being “eDgY” but my boyfriend has helped me try to overcome that voice in my head, that voice is scary dude.
The scariest, because it sounds a lot like me or the peferect me I think I should be.
Exactlu
I can relate to that
You have an awesome boyfriend! 🥹🥹🥹
Same here. I can never seem to shake this nagging feeling that my friends and my girlfriend secretly don’t like me and that they’re only sticking around cause they feel sorry for me.
What makes this so realistic is the repetition. You really tend to say things like this over and over again to yourself.
Also Bojack lying about how the voice goes away at the end just breaks my heart.
I love how in one of the scenes it shows Hollyhawk falling in the pool but the way she falls looks a lot like how Bojack nearly dies in the penultimate episode
There's imagery of people sinking in pools throughout the whole series actually. It's really interesting foreshadowing.
“Sometimes I pull over on the side of the road and do nothing for hours”
It is concerning that I can relate to this
Understand that the voice doesn't want you to be better, it guilts you so you'll be worse. Guilt and shame prevent behavior, they do not inspire it. Shame can stop you from taking bad action, but it will never inspire good action. The best you can do is get yourself to stop eating the cookies. You will not make breakfast listening to the voice. And then you're still hungry and the cookies are still there.
bullying yourself constantly is some of the worst thing you can do.
Yeah this episode gets funny but then it gets sad
"But what ever I do, it's not your fault." He sound genuinely worried about her.
Because his parents told him everything was his fault.
Better then 13 reasons why
Not a high bar
Comparing Bojack to 13 Reasons is like comparing a meal at a Michelin Star rated restaurant to Burger King
13 who?
Stop making that comparison
This show definitely helped with my own depression and anxiety
By showing you what not to do?
@@soniczth8534 Kinda, but it also made me feel understood
2:37 it’s kind of sad that his grave says bojerk instead of bojack. It really shows how much he hates himself.
2:34 hit differently
This does NOT make me want a Reese’s.
"Are you drooling?"
@@jessicavazquez8193 not sorry reeses
😂😂😂
I used to think I was the only person in the world who had this voice... it called me a 'fuck up' though, not a 'stupid piece of shit.' It would scream at me louder and louder and I remember at the time I'd get quieter and quieter. Like I was destroying myself.
It's under control now but I still remember it. I never want to go back. This was the episode that really made me fall in love with this show. I hope Bojack finds his peace too.
I'm proud of you for making it through. Keep your head up and keep being awesome!
@@NeverwaY Thank you. Your encouragement really means a lot. Take care of yourself too :)
@@NeverwaY
Never mind, it’s blood on the cut
"Spooky lazy eyes" will always be my favorite line
Mine is "Oh now you think you're young all of a sudden"
literally had my parents watch the first two minutes of this episode to give them a visual of what i couldn’t put into words for years.
My boss would praise me a lot at work, tell me how useful I was and what an asset to the team I was. I always brushed it off or denied it, one time she got a bit exasperated and asked what she needed to say to convince me.
I pointed at my head and said "whatever will shut up this guy"
Yup. It goes away all right. Suuuuuure does. Any day now ..
As someone with bipolar disorder who goes through this every day...I can't describe the feeling of seeing someone else understand.
Between this and Rue from Euphoria talk about self hatred and depression and anxiety. I don't think I have seen two characters really nail so well what it is like to have lived with this shit for over 20 years now. Rue really nails the outside the manic panic stress fidgets fight or flight frustration screaming one second crying the next. Bojack would be so funny if it wasn't so freaking scary close to what I and I know others live with on a daily basis.
as someone with depression, this is so accurate it's funny. And comforting, to know you're not alone.
This scene is beautiful, because some of what he says is actually true. Sarah Lynn did die because of him, he nearly molested Charlotte's daughter. He *is* an asshole. He struggles because in order to actually be a better person, and be happy, he has to accept himself and all his wrongdoings. But that's never easy, especially when you've done such horrendous things as he has.
"If I act shitty, that's just because I'm shitty, and you're allowed to be mad at me, but you need to know, whatever I do, it's not your fault." This line is just so much.
What's so inspiring about this show is that even at the end, Bojack is still trying to improve. He hasn't given up.
This show has some truly brutal scenes…
Bipolar depression at its finest. It's sad to say that I feel like this alot
This voice used to be so loud that I could only silence it with self harm, which ironically made the voice so much louder when it returned. It got to a point where the voice mostly just screamed that I can only make things right by hurting myself because that’s what I deserved for being such a pathetic garbage person who only hurts others. It took so much before I finally accepted that it may not be true. It’s funny because the song playing in the background is about self harm. This show has a funny way of eerily relating to us
What helped you realize that might now be true? Genuinely? I cant find it for the life of me
I just realized that the sign on the bar just disappears 1:24
anxiety basically.
And depression
It's unsettling because it seems very real.
We all have that voice in our head. Mine is just “Fuck up.”
For me it’s asshole
“It goes away, right?”
That hits so hard…
my depression is why im glad I hate the taste of booze (something about my super taster tongue makes it common) because if I got drunk and stuff i can only imagine how much worse off i'd be.
Even though im doing better i relate to these thoughts in the head. especially the breakfast thing.
This is borderline to madness. I was there also, but I don´t know if it was more like anxiety or depression. But it´s not you are mad or something like that, I would say - critically overwhelmed and you can´t think straight, constantly think that everyone is talking about you and god forbid you to make one little mistake.
I had to seek help - I´m not affraid to admit that and it was the only way out.
And yes, this is one of the best depiction of this state of mind - I felt sick deep in my stomach.
The part where he talks about offing himself I feel like that every day for years I'm surprised I haven't yet by now.
i just realized hollyhock being in the pool at 2:26 is probably foreshadowing to season 6
Love that it was just silent after she asked why? And bojack did not answer.
It is very relateble for allot of people that do nothing because the are depressed
3:18 Bojack is irredeemable, but the one good thing is that he tried to steer away from how his parents treated him and try to treat Hollyhock better and not blame her for his own issues
‘Put that cookie down’
‘Ugh I can’t BELIEVE you ate that cookie!’
Idk why that was hilarious to me 😂
this shows how bpd really is i love it
Everyone speaks about "it going away"
But actually the part that shook me, was when this animation got very creative and he said:
"That's why Sarah lynn died, that's why Charlotte will.never forgive you... what u gonna do a***le, what u gonna do? .."
And this sht up which took him down to earth, just epic moment
The spiral at 2:20 is honestly such a real scene
It's terrifying how real this is.
Beginning literally me everyday in middle school
I am slightly disappointed about the fade away at the end. It is to early. The facial expressions of Holly and BJ are important. She believes him and is happy with the answer, while he knows the truth and feels bad about lying.
The shots 2:26 and 2:28 are terrifying. Bojack’s subconscious was trying to warn him of his future for so long.
Stop it. Stop drinking whiskey and go get some water. Stop it! Don't drink any more whiskey! Put that whiskey down! Do not drink that whiskey! *gulp* I can't believe you drank that whiskey!
Felt
Has Netflix made mind reading screens? Or what?
God what an excellent use of Blood in the Cut. Also, I've never felt more seen by a cartoon until this scene. Steven Universe Future is a close second though.
dude bojack horseman saw me in a way i didn’t think anyone or anything else could. this godforsaken show changed me, and i’m grateful for it
I'm toxic with myself and i still need to love myself?It's harder that i tought
My god. I keep coming back to this. I thought I was the only one whose mind went to these places.
Him holding Sarah Lynn's corpse in that one brief moment tore my heart out
I've only now came to the realization that the thoughts I get everyday are not normal.
always remember you are stronger than your thoughts
Hope everyone doing good and staying safe. If you need to talk to someone or need help, there are people who care. Sending support and hearts. ❤️❤️❤️
@@zacharynguyen7286 Not all heros wear capes. Everyone upvote this comment please.
This been me lately the voices are becoming harder to ignore
BoJack really fucked up throughout his life, but he did right by not repeating what Beatrice told him onto Hollyhock. He could've fueled the generational trauma, and passed it on by telling her that it's a feeling she was born with and won't be able to fend off. In Beatrice's words, one of the last BJ heard from her before Alzheimer's hit, "Its not just you, you know..." "You were born broken. You are BoJack Horseman, that's your birthright. There's no cure for that."
But he kept it simple and just reassured her it was a temporary feeling. It truly is a feeling many struggle with throughout their lives, but it is fucking vital to be told that there is a brighter future ahead when you're just a teenager. I get upset thinking about how far he cracked, up to taking her on a drug heist and endangering her, but I'm really grateful he wouldn't let his family's history affect her as best as he could. Hollyhock had every right to cut comminications off with him, but I like to think that she's at the very least grateful, when he let her know that she deserves better, and that hard times won't last forever.
I feel you.
I have similar cases. Those noises, thoughts, past memories and words.
I have ASD high function borderline, anxiety & OCD.
2:19 This is so terrifyingly real
Hey could someone explain to me why Hollyhock is just lighting up matches and then throwing them into the pool? Is there some sort of significance behind it?
It's just something writers use to show enui.
@@NeverwaY Ah I see. It's just that I've never seen anyone do that in real life so it struck me as a little odd when I first saw it.
@@thechosenone8332 seen that in breaking bad which also a good show...
It foreshadows the fact she’s being drugged. In the next few episodes after that, hollyhock does compulsive behaviors, like flipping the channels or counting all the change. Arguably it starts here.
Just a repetitive depressive behavior. They can be lighting matches, ripping out your own hair, scratching your skin, etc. just something that numbs you and you dont have to think about. I dont know if it means anything else, just seems like an extremely accurate portrayal of what depression looks like behaviorally.
This show makes me realize what a piece of shit i am.
I’ve always thought like this and it makes me sad that I could’ve gotten help for it earlier but my mom held me back from it
I was 7, geez. A 7 year old should not have to think like that.
I didn’t know others talk to themselves like this too
It makes me wonder if Butterscotch ever had thoughts like this.
I moved to a whole mother state , thought I could just fake it til I make it . But mistakes were made , the voice came back . Time to go home and try again I guess .
"Only the greats die young" *tupac* AAAAH IM SO HAPPY
We all have moments like this
I love that this is how I found kflay
Lol SAAAME
Every day. It’s so tiring.
Just saw the episode the first time . True Masterpiece.
This is both hilarious and painfully accurate
Am I the only one who thinks the “Spooky Lazy Eyes” part is just accurate as hell? 😅
demons talking to you as you attempt to defend what you know is true
he just like me fr
I grew up as a toddler trying to figure out who I was & while I was at it, I had an inner voice that tells me "you suck at everything and everyone knows it" but not stupid piece of garbage, so instead of figuring out who I am, I spent time as a toddler trying to shut that inner voice down but everytime I go to school It would not go away, nobody has bullied me that time only because I was quite, so after I passed some of my classes with B's, so when summer break has started, I've spent some time trying to get rid of it but for me it wasn't easy, next thing you know I was going to the beach with some friends but I didn't want to go swimming for a few minutes BUT, when I got out of the car, I decided to stop drinking soda's & eating cookies for a while, then AFTER that I started doing eight push-ups in a row on the sand, after that my inner voice kept telling me "DO NOT hang out with them, they're bad friends" and then all of a sudden I've ignored it then got into the beach water and started talking to one of my friends & we started throwing and catching football 🏈 & then after the beach trip, I found my face in the mirror sunburned but somehow my inner voice went away and never came back, I had some good sleep at that night even though I had some sunburn on my face, the next morning my inner voice is still away from my head, but I was also told that if I ever have that inner voice, take some deep breaths & so I decided to sit in my bedroom & take some deep breaths & it felt good at first, for me it lets out anger, after I spent 5 minutes taking a deep breath, my inner voice still hasn't come back into my head, I was just chilling in my backyard & petting my dog, & then after I had dinner with my family, I just went to bed & I had a happy moment where I said "yayy, I think my inner voice is gone for good" and then next month I've realized it still hasn't come back, but I will not forget it though, the inner voice is gone forever but still can be remembered or forgotten.
Nothing has bad happened to me when I've gone through some things between me & an inner voice that was stuck in my head, I wasn't bullied or hurt, but I was questioned on what was going on with me.
That happens. I always punch my head when I hear those voices. It helps. Sometimes.
Sometimes don't, and I just punch harder 👌.
I hated this window into my own mind so much.
I've dealt with this for a long damn time. It got better when I imagined my depression as another person and just pretended to beat the hell out of him.
K Flay!
This is the most relateable episode holy shit
hey look its my bpd in a nutshell ahhahaha
oh god this hits home to hard
I have come to the conclusion that Bojack Horseman is a high functioning schizophrenic, which explains a lot of bizarre things about this show.
I love Hollyhock so much. She really is his sister.
Bojack’s depression sounds like a car commercial
I will get beer
Best Bojack episode in my opinion, though to be fair I'm biased because I have depression.
hollyhock, it does, but you have to work for it. you have to learn how to shut it up and replace it with a better one. it goes away, but you gotta do it every day. that’s the hard part.
At least it started to make sense
Best show that describes depression
Wasn't there more? Could've sworn there was more...
There was, it’s missing the scene where he tossed his mothers baby doll off the cliff and the voices in his head make him feel better for a split second before tearing into him again.
Some parts in this episode gets funny but then it becomes triggering
And her spooky lazy eyes
Painfully well done