WAZZAAAAA.... (AKA The New Boss WAZA Craft Amp Demo)
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Thank you Boss for creating the grossly overpriced Waza which paved the way for the underpriced and over achieving Katana amps.
WAZAFAAACK?! 3500 bucks?!!
So even more money in USD.
LMAO, hysterical!!!!!!!! WAZAFAAAAAACK!!!!!!!!!! ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Absolutely, about $4500.00!!
classic, my thought too with out the WAZAFAAACK. appropriate name for this door stop of an amp
2,499 is the street price in the states.
This comments section in a nutshell;
"It's solid state, so it's automatically shit."
"Who in the fuck would spend 2k+ on a solid state amp?"
That probably covers everything.
Nah, it just doesn't sound good, at least not 2k good.
Nope - Helix, Axe FX, Kemper...pro quality solid state. I use an Orange CR60 as my gigging amp...lots of very good solid state. This sounds like ACTUAL shit. Really terrible.
+Jared Burdick I agree. There are some mighty fine Solid-state amps that sound great. This just sounds like some awful modelling amp. Not worth more than $800.
+Jared Burdick I agree. There are some mighty fine Solid-state amps that sound great. This just sounds like some awful modelling amp. Not worth more than $800.
+Jared Burdick I agree. There are some mighty fine Solid-state amps that sound great. This just sounds like some awful modelling amp. Not worth more than $800.
I'd rather play a metal zone pedal through my alarm clock speaker and spend all that money on a really nice butt plug
Best comment ever!!! lol
Please Please Please do another challenge video. Those are so awesome I watch them more than once. Cheers. Rock. Thrall.
Agreed. We need more of em'
I remember rob saying they would do an epiphone mod challenge
We miss the aimless running around in Andertons by the two and a random challenge.
Fully agree!
I watch the challenge videos every single day.
Conversely Steve Vai's actual amp as a full stack is $2250.00 US greenbacks and a cool 999.00 for the head.
and we can expect a new incarnation of the Legacy probably, too. Steve does really well about updating his amp pretty well, which is nice. But even if he doesn't, the Legacy III is still stupid versatile and a killer amp for the price.
Thank you
John pls
I think I would prefer having 4 Fender Bassbreakers.
Same
haha.
YES!
You could seriously buy the 2x12 bassbreaker cabinet with the 7W, 15W and 45W heads AND still have enough money to buy a few pedals...
Kevin van den Berg You could buy the cab and 3 heads and be able to get a cheap guitar.
£2200... for a boss head... plus another grand for a 212.... that chappers says can only do high gain rock/metal.
So I'd basically have to walk past;
The axe fx 2's
The kempers
The mesa's
The Marshalls
The Engls
The friedmans
The EVHs
The Revvs
And pretty much every other well known and loved heads and Cabs, to spend more... on a boss ....
But it's OK... it has an emulated Di out.
You could buy a clean boutique amp and a 5150 for this, but it'll appeal to someone with a 9000 quid guitar somewhere
Don't forget the Orange and Fender setups that destroy this one as well lol.
>Implying that you shouldn't already walk past axe fxs.
10/10 would buy revv generator instead.
would buy kemper instead.
would buy kemper plus AXE fx just to use the axe fx as a giant digital pedal for the kemper
If beige had a sound, this amp would be it.
Brad pls
***** At your service
Angus pls...
I think it sounds great. It's very versatile amp and must be bulletproof as any boss product. Price is on the high side yeah, but find me one amp with all these features. I wish more companies would invest in the boutique SS guitar amplifier (not cheap modellers).
Wow seems like everyone is all about tube amps, but I can't be the only one that prefers solid state, it lasts longer, it's more consistent
Famous Solid State Amp users ; BB King ,Richie Sambora, Tom Scholz, Carlos Santana, John Fogerty, Chuck Berry, Edgar Winter, Frank Zappa, Jan Akkerman, Bob Weir, Adrian Smith, Jorma Kaukonen, John McLaughlin, Les Paul, Mick Mars, Dave Gilmour, Michael Schenker, Brian May, Rory Gallagher, Alex Lifeson, John Lennon, George Harrison, Lou Reed, Sterling Morrison, Robbie Krieger, Tom Waits, Marc Bolan, David Evans and Billy Gibbons...even Metallica to name "few".
lol good to know, but thats cool. just seem like everyone is all about those tubes
Yes - too many Tube - people are "Biased" ;-D !
for cleans and bass, solid state all day long. for mild breakup, tubes still have the edge. can you play with solid state? of course. a good guitar player will make anything sound good. but this solid state is trying to emulate tube and as far as I'm concerned it's not doing a very good job especially if you charge 2500. I have a feeling they'll drop the price in a few months if not discontinue altogether. their 1500 dollar solid state blues cube 'tour' on the other hand is a very good sounding product and the price is approachable.
I've had my tube amp 30 years. Never had an issue. Never had a tube go bad at a show....ever ! For my taste this amp sounds (on here at least) extremely compressed and full of sizzle . It's just not to my taste at all, others may like it but I couldn't live with this. For this kind of cash you could buy a nice HiWatt
I don't know if it's the mic'ing of the cabs, the cab's themselves or the amp but it sounds really hollow and thin. I mean all the frequencies are there but it just sounds like the 10 watt practice amp I had when I first bought a guitar... just don't think I'm hearing £2.2k worth of amp... even for a modelling amp... The Kemper with the built in amp sounds better, the AxFX sounds better, the Line 6 Helix sounds better... and all of them are cheaper
I'm using pretty shit hot B&W headphones so I know it's not them. I don't know. it just got louder but didn't seem to add any heft to the tone was just thin and loud or thin and quiet...
I just noticed that there's a power setting and that it was set to 1W. Maybe that's it.
Lee says at 20:50 that the bulk of the demo is done in 50 watt mode.
I was thinking the EXACT same thing. The frequencies are there, this review just makes it sound like it lacks balls. I am a Fractal Axe Fx II owner running FRFR and listening to it thru the same speakers that i am listening to THIS, there is no compare. I mean, I understand you have the way that UA-cam squashes and compresses, maybe its just bad mic placement, maybe their in the room tone sounded WAY much better than they realized was recording and in the end, it just wasnt feasible to re-record .... who knows, but it doesn't make me even want to go listen to one.
If I had £3k to spend on a rig I'd be buying a Friedman... no debate. It wouldn't be going on this... at all... ever...
For 3k I would get Line 6 Helix, a Line 6 expression pedal, and 2 Atomic FRFR speakers.
Yeah I toyed with the idea of the Helix but Andertons had the JVM205 on offer for a while so I did that instead. Turns out I'm a hot glass man. Love those El34's man... Helix is top quality but if I was going modelling and had that to spend I'd probably go Kemper Power Amp and get a FRFR cab built to order... but my heart is rooted in Friedman... the BE100, or the Butterslax... just biblical!
neuk01642 Yeah fair enough man. There is something special about tube amps that I don't think that modelling has reached yet.
You could get a Soldano SLO for that money! Personally I would get the Victory Silverback, but that's just personal preference.
Friedman Amps all the way period end of story.
Came for the Independence Day review. Thanks guys, you saved me $20.
Rob You are an amazing guitarist, love Your style!!!! This charvel is great too. Amp sounds great
what is that fender that Captain is holding? looks retro and i really dig the "cigarette burn" on the head, does anyone have an idea?
It's a great amp for cleans, ok for od. But what's the point of buying a modeling amp that costs MORE than the real thing ?
Quite. Can't see the point really. Maybe in a studio.
+Stephen Gent
I Doubt it, a studio would go Axe Fx for that price.
+Stephen Gent even in a studio, Axe Fx and Kemper just sound so much better than this.
+Cai Durkan I'm not saying you're wrong, but we haven't heard this WAZA thing in the studio compared to the other two, so it's not really fair to say that just yet.
Cleans sounded overly dark and straight to me. Doesn't feel organic imo.
"how does it STACK UP?"
mighty captain Lee anderpun
Sounds great!!
Love that gem of a guitar on the opening riff. If I ever went electric it would be for this or a Chapman ghost fret in blue.
the mic'd cabinet sounded a looooot better than the DI Signal, and that's coming from an all around AXE FX guy.
Um,Why would you ever spend $2,000 on a solid state amp instead of a tube amp?
Good point! Just pick up a Victory VX-Kraken Full Tube Amp for £850 and get killer tones and plenty of power!
That product placement was smoother than Lee's chin.
+Pota7o Potato (Pot4to) 😂😂😂
Personal preference one would imagine.
Because you don't want to deal with tubes? There have been a lot of cool tones made with non tube gear over the years.
Wow! The Monkey Lord is killi' it on that Charvel! Thank you guys again for all of the work ya'll put into to making all these videos; they always get me incredibly motivated to put in hours of practice on my guit
I am glad they mentioned that hilarious price tag right off the bat. So I could wipe the tears from eyes, and get on with my day.
I don't know man, sounds like one of them loud, big, Ibanez Toneblaster X 150W amps... only with lots of bells and whistles about it - without the bells and whistles actually adding any value to it.
Its called WAZA because that's what you yell when you see the pricetag. (And also 'Oh dear God, my wallet!' is kind of a long name.)
Fantastic review!!!!
Hey I'm having trouble deciding what pedal to get, i am currently using s Mxr distortion pedal. I have narrowed it down to a ibenez tube screamer and a MXR chorus
Hey just a question to commentators which are more guitar savvy than me - what pickups would you recommend. I'm replacing the pickups in my ML1. Play a lot of jazz and metal (weird mix, right?).
Thanks to anyone who replies
i think you need two guitars
Some hot rails and maybe a jb in the bridge
Any guitar does fine, the main thing is that your amp must have a good warm clean channel sound and a high gain distortion channel, something like a dual rectifier(what i use), i also play from jazz to metal, i use a schecter hellraiser hybrid c1
I got a set of Bare Knuckles and they do HSS sets. Bit pricey but lush. Great clarity and note definition and you can go from authentic blues to full on high gain madness.
Worth a look. Mind you Seymour Duncan and D'marzio (pretty sure I've got that wrong), do pretty good pick ups as well.
You'd probably want 2 guitars. Leave the ML-1 for Metal and I'd recommend a hollow body like an Ibanez AS73 or a Gibson / Epiphone ES-335
$3500 for a 1/2 stack? Swrong with you ?!!
Far, far better amps for that price.
Far, far better amps for that price.
Far, far better amps for that price.
Far, far better amps for the price.
Far, far better amps for that price.
Anybody know the name of the blue guitar he was using at the very beginning?
What model and accoutrements is the lovely charvel that Mr. Chapman is playing ?
If Japan was an amplifier, there you go.
They could've just made a nice tube amp and cab for half the price
Jordan pls
+xxNailFirexx Hahahaha what the fuck
If someone is browsing for a solid state high power amp maybe a better choice would be Orange Crush Pro CR120H?
Very different beasts mate
I gig the CR 60w weekly. I LOVE it. It's not a money thing, I can play what I want (within reason), but they're just great sounding amps. BUT...I also have a killer pedal board to run with it. Excellent two channel amps.
So, is the emulation software in this the same as the current Roland Cube amps', or different?
Nothing the Katana can't do
Looking back now, the Katana I think might actually sound better...
Jesus they had me until the price. Super not worth it. With that cash, I'd heartily go for an AXE FX II or something like a Friedman or a Revv
lol so literally 3 minutes in xD
more like less than a minute! haha
what model friedman you talking about thats around 2 grand? the cheapest one i say was a 40 watt for like 3000
+spawnkiller97 you can buy a Friedman pink taco used for around $1,200
+Kasey Chovanak im talking new. this amp would be cheaper used as well.
Does it have the same preamp as the discontinued Roland GA amps?
So does this use the same type of tone capsules as the blues cube or is it just the same technology? Cause now I really wanna hear the Steve Vai capsule in a blues cube just for shits and giggles. Would it work?
It's an interesting concept, but like others have said, the price is really off-putting. If I was going to spend that much, I'd be looking at a Kemper or and AxeFXII XL+, with a nice cab or FRFRs. Or I'd spend less and just get a traditional amp/cab setup.
Classy ass bulbasaur
Crummock pls
agus pls
Wait, you have to spend that much for this piece of kit and you still have to buy & put separate Boss pedals in front of it? You would think for that price, Boss would have programmed them all into the unit itself.
could you review the boss ME-80. I've been thinking about getting one but I'm not sure about the all in one style pedal s
The way you describe this creates the tonal characteristics is exactly how the Fractal Audio guys have been doing it all along. looking at every component within the circuit to see how it affects the sound. They look at how the component acts under different conditions, to accurately recreate the sound of the original amp, plus make the dials act like they do on the original
Forget that overpriced thing.I want a proper demo of the Charvel Pro-Mod and US models!
Rob makes me feel better about owning 3 shirts
it actually sounds really good
Question - It's Thanksgiving 2020.. Is Boss providing continued product development for this.amp? It's pretty pricey if they're going to come out with a V2... Also, can you get a decent Blues tone out of this?
Bollocks to that! Gimmie a Telecaster and an AC30 please?
Without trying to be too dismissive, seems that The Captain is struggling to justify this thing and you can see why. For me there are just too many better solutions that do what this does (and many that do more or do it better) at much less money. Can't see Boss selling many of these. Probably end up as a bit of collectors item in a few years.
Nitenunky pls
+Agus Gonzalez can you stop with the *blank* pls?
Tell me I'm wrong please, so instead of creating and tweeking our own patches we have to buy tone capsules that will give us presets ?
Like a Toyota vehicles, this has the feeling of a sensible and reliable appliance.
Not my favorite. Sounds thin, brittle and harsh. way too expensive
Good it`s not only me how thinks so! Not a pleasant sounding amp
+Gravstein are you kidding? no one here likes it
I really don't care for these modern digital amps either. I'm more of a fan of the old analogue transistor amps, like B.B. King's Lab Series, or the famous Roland Jazz Chorus - genuine classics - although they're better at clean tones than distortion. Old Randalls sound pretty good too. Of course, nothing can truly replace a great old Vox, Fender, Marshall or Orange valve amp, or a modern Friedman, Blackstar or Victory for that matter.
Rob plays Ibanezes better than anything else. Even better than that danged 5,000 pound PRS.
#imjustsayin
Amazing how this was a tech demo for the oncoming Katana range. I'd like to see a comparison video between the two..
What is this outstanding riff starting at 12:17?
2 grand!! for this?
no way
Very good demo of a NEW amp ... really new amp concept and not many similar contenders imho. .
Sad to say comments are coming up "as expected" ... guitarists seem to be a "very conservative species" (;-))
Guess we will see prices coming down to a more common level and - same as Rob - i hope there will be little sons and daughters of this Daddy-amp.
A comparison demo with Yamaha THR, Marshall JVM, maybe an Engl ... would be a dream demo ...
Anyway ... great demo ... thanks a lot guys!
@Mendozer
Who told you? ... filthy? ... ?
Cloreen Baconskin
So it does espresso too? Nice (;-))
Cloreen Baconskin
Ah! That's why its so expensive! Do you know how many songs you get from one capsule?
Guess i would need like one for every song ...
Finally, a video that has the vocals louder then the amp.. I didn't think anyone one could do that.. I hope that this spreads though out the internet..
Great song intro choice!
Stupidly overpriced for an amp that sounds extremely characterless. People shell out money for tube amps for the real deal, why would people shell out MORE money for an amp that tries to sound like a tube amp but just plain isn't?
Definitely true, you can get an all tube Marshall Dsl 40c for around 700 dollars and it's killer. Just swap out the speaker, but that's whatever your personal taste is. Although, Boss's new tech savvy idea with this amp is pretty impressive.
It is a neat idea, and the higher wattages do sound sick, it's just that if I was looking to spend over 2 grand I wouldn't spend it on an emulator imo
Yeah man, shelling out that much cash for a solid state amp, no matter what it is, just doesn't sound right. 100% agree
it doesnt matter what the technology behind the amp is. its value.
if i brought you a solid state amp that could perfectly recreate any amp (not just get close like a kemper) but literally perfectly copy the sound and everything else thats important of any amp you wanted.
well then.
if it was like a cross between a kemper and AXE FX with all the good of both but drop all the bad plus make it even better. then itd be worth the price.
you go tube because we like the way it colors sound. but not all tubes are created equal. and not every tube amp comes out the same.
for an amp thats only supposed to do so many things then fine that works. but look at high end headphone amps. solid state is the way to go. tubes arent as clean.
and if you can replicate the distortion perfectly and even adjust it to create new sounds then who the fuck cares.
just doesnt seem like anyone has put the effort in whilst having a large enough budget.
Sounds like EVERYTHING else Chappers plays
yep, chappers is a master in aimless, directionless, meandering and tasteless shit.
+Classix1969 that's his job.
Lei pls
He learned one blues lick years ago that we hear in 95% of all his videos. And he cannot play classic rock licks without denaturing them (using hybrid picking to play Sweet child o'mine intro). And then he does not want us to judge.
Agus Gonzalez You trying to say this amp sounds remotely close do its budget?
so this things similar to the blackstar id series amps then?
So is this just two channels at a time? Do you also have to buy the tone capsules for more sounds or are some built in? Either way, that's quite a bit of money. On the other hand, I have a metric shit-ton of money tied up in my pedal board so there is that...
Honestly, the katana amps sound much better than this...
MegaCrasherMusic Yes
MegaCrasherMusic fucking you again. Thr guy who's butt hurt by the katana range,
Chappers! Stop talking over the Captain!
super great vid!!!
I need to hear this in a Glenn Fricker mix.
Has Rob started dyeing his hair?
Nothing Solid State is worth that price. Period.
amen.
What makes digital or tube worth it, but not solid state? I'd argue it's worth it if it sounds amazing, and if they used quality components. My issue with spending that much on a solid state amp would be resale value. There's definitely a solid state stigma thanks to the crazy amount of terrible sounding, and cheaply made, solid state amps over the years. It's nice knowing you can pick up a good tube amp, and then when you're ready to try something new, get most your money back from it.
Judge an amp by its abilities/tone, not by its technology. That said,this amp is worth £1000 max IMO.
Hahaha.....realize that tubes are virtually worthless (money wise)? Those things were in everything in ye olde days. Every cheaps-ass radio in the 70’s had tubes. It’s ridiculous that we pay so much for ancient tech....they’re essentially not much more dificult to make than lightbulbs...
There are brilliant solid state hifi amps costing tens of thousands of dollars....the transistors are a fraction of the cost of the amp, same with a tube amp...it’s not the tubes you are paying for. It’s the whole package. So why are there so little expensive solid state amps for guitar? Because no guitarists are willing to pay for it.....
kees ketsers Thats not why tubes cost so much now...
When I first saw this video, I was totally perplexed how they could justify selling a solid state amp for upwards of $3k, but I was at a Local Sam Ash yesterday looking at the boss Katana amp series and a sales rep from Roland/Boss was there and he gave some perspective. He said the Waza amp served a twofold marketing purposes directly related to the Katana series-1) it was proof of concept for their new, more organic sounding solid state modeling, onboard cab simulation, and power amp output staging and 2) it introduced the market to Boss as an amplifier manufacturer as apposed to an effect pedal maker. So they didn’t intend to sell many of these anyway. Interesting plan, and honestly it seems to have worked because the Katana series is amazing and they seem to be flying off the shelves everywhere!
please do a review of 59 tweed bassman reissue, im thinking of buying but there are no solid reviews it would be a great help.
thanks
I was just working a 5sos show and they had a shit ton of them on stage. I hadn't seen the amps before; funny to see you guys put this show out a couple days after to answer my query haha
Yummy tones!!!
i looooooove the fretboard on that Ibanez. looks so good.
The Steve Vai Jems are beauty's
Tree Of Life inlays
Its sounds pretty good tbh!..
My only question would be, i think as you guys said , ' if you got this kinda money, you'd probably buy an Axe FX2".
I heartily agree with that!...
So what you mean is Boss is "profiling" the real amps circuit components? I have never tried keper profiler but I have read people really enjoy the end result a lot.
what guitar is the red one Rob's playing? that's nice
Which is better?
Line 6 helix
Boss waza thing
If nothing else, the DI sound reproduces the tone superbly well.
I am in love with that Charvel😍😍😍😍
Do you sell that blue t shirt that the Captain is wearing at Andertons?
Is this actually any better than a simple Line 6 Firehawk?
that black and blue ibanez is beautiful!!
That Charvel is GORGEOUS!
that background hum is intense, with humbuckers as well!
Chappers you are on fire with that Charvel in your hands!
What model Charvel is that ? Beauty.
So like a worse Axe Fx for a similar price?
Those New Charvel San dimas pro mods are sick!!
Are there any Japanese valve amps out there?
12:49 - Evil Waza robot, biding his time, waiting to kill.
Can someone tell me the first thing he played
What's that on captain's tshirt?
theres no way in hell that id ever be able to afford this amp, but i just love rob and the captain talking us thru it!
that's massive!
What was the intro riff?
That Red Charvel is just beautiful!
With most live venues now mic'd even a small amp makes more sense especially if your genre requires more breakup which is easier to attain with a smaller valve amp.
I feel that maybe what they are hearing is very different to the sound on the video. Was there an issue? On other videos they sound fine but this sounds thin and harsh. I can't believe it really sound like that.