Outlander xmr with rad relocate looks way better than a renegade with a rad relocate. The longer wheel base is an advantage on hill climbs and trails which I do a lot more of than mudding. I wanna get wet, not straight mud. So imo outlander xmr with the 2up seat is a better machine for me.
Its fine, his statements about bottoming out made no sense. You bottom out on a rut side to side not front to back. to length isnt the factor. length doesnt effect ground clearance the way hes trying to use it as a "fact". This video is clearly biased based of ones love for a certain bike, not ACTUAL valid info.
@@shanewamsher4683 when climbing out of a hole, the under belly of the machine will get hung up more often on the max chassis due to the rear wheels being further away so they havnt reached the side to climp up and out. On the short wheelbase the rear whels will reach the wall of the hole before the underbelly gets hung up at the top ledge.
Great video Don! I personally respect your facts on the renegade. My personal preference is the outlander because of one situation where my friend accidentally caught her leg on the wheels of her renegade and got hurt pretty badly. But, it’s rider error to have that happen. But, honestly I do want a renegade next once I move to a house where I have more storage area. Still going to keep my outlander.
Very true video, after 2 renegades I switched to a outlander xtp max 1000 for how I ride now... won't ever forget the fun I had on the renegades though
Great video, I agree the renegade in stock form looks awesome but once you add the rad relocate kit it looks awful in my opinion. Can Am did a great job with how the Outlander XMR looks. Honestly the Outlander should be the higher priced machine as it must cost more to make but they know people will buy the Renegade just for its looks.
I think a lot of new riders buy these mud machines not relising the thousands and thousands of dollars in maintenance they require, mud is the hardest thing on an atv
I have a Honda forman 520. I ride hard with a lot of can-an owners. I never broke anything, and I keep maintenance up. This is the first im hearing about high maintenance and exsppensive maintenance. I understand the belt has to be changed, oil, air filter those kind of thing. But what else needs to be other than breaking stuff and what makes it expensive
@@dillonrobinson3961 depends. Generally a dirt-bike. More narrow, and climb hills better, but if it’s more water based like if u have to go through a creek of sum it’s easy to drown them. But like mountain side trail riding a dirt bike would be better.
I got the same quad.. foot shift I wish it came with independent rear suspension.. but I gotta say I would take that over the 529 Rubicon automatic I heard they suck for shifting it always wants to either up shift or down shift and it sometimes gets stuck.. so I'll keep the foot shift.. but they sure are reliable
When riding a passenger is a must on occasion, you only get one option. Just have to put on bigger tires and do the modifications to make a max chassis work
Debating on this myself currently. Difference with me is I'll be using it around my property also , I don't take people for rides but in and outta woods going to get logs planting trees but also go out with buddy's. I feel outlander would be the better option. I been looking for an 850 outlander here but it's insane to find one but the 1000s I can almost trip over . Idk what to do.
Well. Great video. I happen to have both quads. A 2019 outlander xmr 1000 and the 2021 Renagade xmr1000 and you are correct in your review. High centre is the drawback of the outlander and total overall fun is the other big advantage with the renegade Both are beasts but I prefer the renegade
@@jaketrat3725 the ground an underneath the center of th vehical is too high for the ground clearence and you gett hung up resting your frame on the ground while your wheels just spin with no weight (or not enough) to get traction. It can happen if your in deep ruts or, in the case where the longer wheelbase would matter, when your in a hole and go to climb out...after th front wheels clear, as you continue to move forward, your frame will contact the ledge at the top of the hole. With the longer wheelebase, your back tires havnt reached the wall of the hole so the rear of the machine cant climb up and out. All it can do is push forward to try to reach the wall o the hole but the frame is caught ( High centered) on the edge at the top of the hole. Hope this helped.
I completely agree with this video. My 2021 Renegade 570 xmr went through a few mudholes no problem that a 2020 Outlander 1000 xmr got stuck in. Made me feel even better about going with the Renegade than the Outlander👍🏽
I’m lookin at the 850xmr. Seems if I’m ok not getting the 1000 then the also powerful 850 would be fine and all I need is to cut and clutch for bigger tires and run better snorkels(or don’t go as deep).
Yep you got it! The 850 is a performance engine, no doubt. It allows you the option to spend money on clutches, tuning and tires for closer to the price of the Renegade stock. BUT the 1000 does get you just that much more power. There is a difference but the 850 is a great choice!
Every smaller bike gets stuck in the same holes, the longer frame means your wheels aren’t in the same holes at the same time… and I like the larger fenders where mud is concerned.
I picked up my 22 outty xmr 1000. I like the renegades but the design of the outty just looks and functions better. Stock for stock u will have a lot more fun with the outty. Mainly due to the rad restrictions
I do a little bit of mudding but not to the level that this video shows. I also do some swamp bogging. Over all for what I do most it would be the outlander for sure. I'm on extremely steep hill climbing and very long trails with lots of rock as well. I also prefer to stay as dry and clean as possible so definitely an outlander guy. Don't get me wrong the renegades are awesome and would love to try one for a bit.
Im a big fan of the Outlander XXC. Not sure what you mean how it turns 'sharper' as the wheel base is the same on both. Or does it feel that way with the stock tire set up being skinny tires on the front?
I will say this i love my outlander 21 1000xmr. That beast will go thru anything. I remember she got stuck once but i did it on purpose to see the out come i was upset. I had no one to ride with just my .45. No problem took my winch cables came with my beast throw around that tree an pull here out. Go with the outlander
Youre right but in my Locations and in my Country you dont Need bigger weels or very high snorkels. In my Country there are not many Places to mud ride but When there are places you dont need a Renegade. But very Good Video!!🎉
Looking to get a can am soon. I’d like to see what you prefer if the outlander would be better for 2 people as for my wife loves riding but not driving lol. Or any other atv that you would prefer for 2 people?
Such an awesome video, Don!! I couldn't agree more with you as long as you're into mudding! Your video sparked some ideas in my little brain and I think you and I could partner up and do a collaboration video on differences in riding terrain and riding styles to create a broader comparison and give more people more information to help people make a choice between Renegade and Outlander. I'm back in Alaska now after a much needed long vacation and am installing new goodies on the new machine today.
@@ADVENTURESThisWay Got a set of Can Am Apache 360LT Tracks to maybe get to places I shouldn't get to for the six months or so of winter we get around here! Could not find a detailed "how to" video for installing these things and the typical can-am instructions that are harder to decipher than the bible in it's original context! SO I'm making one! LOL I'll write some ideas down and get with you to figure out how to do a colab video. I think I can just film my portion and get it to you, and you can use whatever parts of it you need to fit your video.
The rad relocate on the renegade just looks off and weird and I feel it’s a necessary to have the rad relocate if your mudding, so in that case the renegade is uglier in my opinion but cool video still. I got a 2018 outlander Xmr 570 and I’m in love with it and I’m 6ft 250lbs. To me it’s everything I want. It still gets through pretty much all the mud I’m willing to go through, which I don’t go extreme mudding like you guys do in Canada with the NOS and everything lol but I like how simple and reliable the 570 is and it still has plenty of powerful to have a lot of fun and its still a very capable machine. Now if I was a full on mudder like you and was willing to spend tons of money than yes the renegade 1000 with bigger tires, higher suspension with a rad relocate and with Nos is the goat of mudding but the outlander is still almost as capable when it comes to mudding in itself
Thanks! The Renegade is a great platform, but at the end of the day a 570 will get you the same places for way less $$, maybe not as flashy, but very capable.
I like both but if I had to choose one it would be the Outlander. I would use it for sport, utility and get some accessories for carrying hunting gear.
Yeah buddy!!! The renegade is a straight beast!! I love my renegade and wouldn't trade it for anything else.... all anybody has to do is watch a few of your mudding videos and they will understand lol
i mean the video is great but if you are looking on the price you gotta take the g1 outander 800 an absolute beast first thing first: short wheelbase (same as renegade) second: price in germany you can get one for like 5k and so in america even cheaper third: the chassis are removed in like 5 minutes because of the old system (what i really do like) fourthyou dont need a new footrack for bigger wheels just cut some place out (because of the price) but there are bad points too ofc like the point that you gotta need some mechanic prior knowledge because you need to build the snorkel system on your own and another bad point is that the engine got the old control unit and ofc its only a 800but i got one on my own and i love it. but its your own decision
I wanted the renegade but the big drawback I had was the extra 3k for an engine that's no faster than an 850. Just couldn't justify it. Sucks you really can't go mudding without a rad relocate too. So I went with the 850xmr.....with that said tho my next will definitely be a renegade 1000.
@@ADVENTURESThisWay I didn't say anything about top speed.but it's been proven time and time again that an 850 xmr and a 1000xmr bone stock are pretty even when it comes to head to head.
Good info, but last year you buy a 570 renegade xmr and this year is no longer available. I dont now why, the only engine you can get is the 650 and 1000.
So ya.....I ride a XMR 1000 Outlander and I ride with 4 other renegades and can say I don't get hung up any more than they do. I also have an easier time getting out of holes with the longer chassis. Also you say the renegade has the best snorkel and the Outlander doesn't come with one then you turn around and say you can order the rad relocate for the renegade like the outlander....well you can also order that snorkel kit for the Outlander so that comparison goes out the window. #3 renegade comes with all the accessories....why do you think it's $2000 more they're not free lol. I put the full aluminum skid plates, hand guards and bought the 2up seat and the Yoshi exhaust and it put the price just over the price of the renegade and I now have a two up machine if needed. Oh and apparently renegade guys do need a rack because 3 out of the 4 renegades I ride with ordered an aftermarket mount and put the Outlander rack on the back. And your tire upgrades well maybe-ish I can fit 32" assassintors on mine and just have to trim a little of the plastic. The only thing I agree on is the ease of maintenance on the Renegade but I change my fluids twice a year so it's no biggie as long as I have a cold beer next to me. In the end it all comes down to personal preference between these two machines. Title should be "Top 5 Reasons Why I WANT A Can Am Renegade 1000 XMR (vs Outlander 1000 XMR).
That's great to get your take on this comparison. One question, do you run the same size tires as the riders on the Renegades? And yes I did say in video that, in some cases the longer wheel base is an advantage. The OEM snorkel kit for the Outlander only extends the Air intake, the CVT are still too low in comparison in my opinion.
heh; your not really suggesting that the can am is easy to work on? Maybe the new models are better; i've had a 2014 1000 rennie since new; its fairly nightmarish (was just swearing at the stupid secondary clutch install procedure about 2 hours ago).
When people talk about the fendersize on the Rene I just say u spent money to have fun why won’t u get muddy if ur going mudding that’s like saying I bought a hellcat but I don’t like the speed
@@michaelmaschinot2891 Far Mudding makes a decent looking one. Another one to look at is from Swamplife you can find him on Facebook. You get them customized to you liking.
until you're racing other quads for best time, running crushed assassinators with nitrous. then the outlander max chassis is better due to not wanting to lift up in the front end compared to the Renegade wanting to wheely...
1) My outlande does just as good if not better than my buddies renegade in the mud 2) The renegades intake is not really all that much higher than the outlanders. The cvt intake is, but not the airbox intake. Depending on which snorkel kit you go with decides if the snorkels are in your way. You act like the rhino horn is invisible 3) Better accessories? Aluminum skid plates yes. But everything else my outlander came with. Who needs a rack? Anybody who wants to strap a cooler down. Oh you can just buy it for the renegade but the BRP is too out of hand. Same over the radiator relocate. You can get a can am approved snorkel extention as well. I like the cluster on my outty. Not a fan of the little square you get. And the passenger thing. You don't need the rear seat to have a passenger. The outlander "driver" seat is plenty big enough for a passenger with the storage box in place of the seat. 4) Maintenance is not that hard on the outlander. Sure its easier on the renegade, but don't be lazy. 5)You can fit bigger tires, but i can do floorboards cheaper than you can rad relocate to keep from overheating every time you go out. 6) They both look good. Renegade looks more sporty but calling the outlander ugly woulr be an outright lie Fun fact. My 18 outty xmr outran my buddies renegade until he put clutches in his. Mine still has stock clutches. This video is misinformational. Somebody is mad they paid more for less. Anybody reading my comment. If you don't know which machine to go with, think about the type of riding you'll be doing. Do you have a passenger? Do you climb hills a lot? They both have their perks. Not like this guy makes it out to be
I drove my buddy’s 850 xtp renegade and boy what a terrible ride. You’re sitting on all 4 shocks and feel every bump. I only drove it for 20 minutes and had to get back on my bike (850 xmr outlander) strictly hardcore mud driving I agree renegade but other than that it’s a hard no for me
Never heard of a Renegade XTP...anyways the shocks must have been set up super stiff. The shocks on an XMR Renegade are better than the Outlander. Also depends on tire pressure as well, for comparison. BTW Outlander and Renegades are the same machine underneath the plastic.
Take outlander 1000xxc short frame and do that xmr. Can am have all parts to do snorkeling and radiator relocation. My choice is outlander 1000 short frame.😀
Yes this can obviously be accomplished. However the focus of this video was comparing the XMR versions available. Absolutely 1000 short frame, best option. No question! PS, I nearly purchased an Outlander 1000 XXC prior to deciding on the Renegade...
I just wish they'd have both had an actual real manual transmission. You can get a Honda with a DCT or manual transmission. But sadly most companies have a rubber band transmission that breaks all the time. I wish these companies would go to manual shift
I'm in nova scotia cape breton island I ordered a 2022 renegade xmr 1000 all in taxs out the door $24,850 lol cant put a price on happiness but watch with my luck they come out with a outlander short frame 1000 like my xmr 560 outlander that would be insane
All 5 is wrong I have outlander and tried renegade, never will switch Oil change in 10 min, and you don’t have remove anything to change the belt, only belt box
My 21 outlander 1000 xmr all day I was pushing tires on my parents property. When I got mine I wanted everything snow plow bar light big back box on back with light. I don't want want to carry mine in 4 in of. Water my outlander 1000 xmr all day baby
I can say this i was grease my front i end on my outty. I was pist at being not able . To grease. That fittings. I dont agree with u. The that 1000 xmr is a sexy machine. I like renys but the outlander better
Buddy, there the same thing one just has different plastic why pay $20,000 for plastic when I can get a 850 with so much more stuff like a rack, rad relocate and bigger screen for cheaper renegade is a rip of so don’t even say that a renegade will get you farther.
None of this is relevant now with the 25 year models outlander is a superior model in comfort and reliability now you get better engine cooling new 30in tires the same size frame the renagade has its all been changed most importantly the pricing
Fair point, but is relevant when video was produced in early 2023. When you get a new Outlander, you should make a video about how its better. But a true comparison would be with a Gen 3 Renegade if it ever happens...
@ADVENTURESThisWay i dont see it happening for awhile the outlander has the best sales because the versatility is better yeah people still by the renegade but the outlander has more potential buyers through the market that's why it got a upgrade seeing as there are multiple different models for work trail hunting mudding and in different specs from 500 to 1000 dont get me wrong I love them both but I've always thought the renegade is trying to be something its not it has the look of a sport atv on a bigger frame
Bias to the max. Complained about the seat costing 800.. then tried justifying new tires, rack, and rad relocate! I love my 21 outlander xmr 1000r. Yes I've been stuck mostly because I was going in 2 wheel and got into trouble real quick. I went back to every spot I've been stuck and blasted it in 4 no problems. Pulled my fair share of every flavor quad and side-by-side out of the mud.
The big plus with the Max chassis is the ability to properly and safely carry a passenger. With the right tires and riding skills you can conquer tough obstacles on any machine. However, the more power it has the more funner!
Outlander xmr with rad relocate looks way better than a renegade with a rad relocate. The longer wheel base is an advantage on hill climbs and trails which I do a lot more of than mudding. I wanna get wet, not straight mud. So imo outlander xmr with the 2up seat is a better machine for me.
Its fine, his statements about bottoming out made no sense. You bottom out on a rut side to side not front to back. to length isnt the factor. length doesnt effect ground clearance the way hes trying to use it as a "fact". This video is clearly biased based of ones love for a certain bike, not ACTUAL valid info.
@@shanewamsher4683 when climbing out of a hole, the under belly of the machine will get hung up more often on the max chassis due to the rear wheels being further away so they havnt reached the side to climp up and out. On the short wheelbase the rear whels will reach the wall of the hole before the underbelly gets hung up at the top ledge.
Extend the swingarm
I am glad i went with the outlander max xt1000
Great video Don! I personally respect your facts on the renegade. My personal preference is the outlander because of one situation where my friend accidentally caught her leg on the wheels of her renegade and got hurt pretty badly. But, it’s rider error to have that happen. But, honestly I do want a renegade next once I move to a house where I have more storage area. Still going to keep my outlander.
well i just describe my real world experience with seeing the 1000 XMR Outlander.
Very true video, after 2 renegades I switched to a outlander xtp max 1000 for how I ride now... won't ever forget the fun I had on the renegades though
Great video, I agree the renegade in stock form looks awesome but once you add the rad relocate kit it looks awful in my opinion. Can Am did a great job with how the Outlander XMR looks. Honestly the Outlander should be the higher priced machine as it must cost more to make but they know people will buy the Renegade just for its looks.
The Renegade is the Premium Model, Premium price for all the best features...and it works in the most extreme terrain the most efficiently.
Renegade is not premium you pay so much just to get a small screen no rad relocate and no rack outlander you pay and get every thing you need
I think a lot of new riders buy these mud machines not relising the thousands and thousands of dollars in maintenance they require, mud is the hardest thing on an atv
I have a Honda forman 520. I ride hard with a lot of can-an owners. I never broke anything, and I keep maintenance up. This is the first im hearing about high maintenance and exsppensive maintenance. I understand the belt has to be changed, oil, air filter those kind of thing. But what else needs to be other than breaking stuff and what makes it expensive
What about for someone mainly trailing?
@@dillonrobinson3961 depends. Generally a dirt-bike. More narrow, and climb hills better, but if it’s more water based like if u have to go through a creek of sum it’s easy to drown them. But like mountain side trail riding a dirt bike would be better.
I got the same quad.. foot shift I wish it came with independent rear suspension.. but I gotta say I would take that over the 529 Rubicon automatic I heard they suck for shifting it always wants to either up shift or down shift and it sometimes gets stuck.. so I'll keep the foot shift.. but they sure are reliable
520 Rubicon I mean
Good info here, both major manufacturers need to do something with their prices on new machines. 20k for new ride seems expensive
The prices have certainly sky rocketed. Even shipping has increased!! Glad I got mine last spring!!
Especially now that C-force came out with close to the same thing for half the price
When riding a passenger is a must on occasion, you only get one option. Just have to put on bigger tires and do the modifications to make a max chassis work
Yes, but much taller tires to get same results as the short frame.
@@ADVENTURESThisWay yep, is what it is though
Debating on this myself currently. Difference with me is I'll be using it around my property also , I don't take people for rides but in and outta woods going to get logs planting trees but also go out with buddy's. I feel outlander would be the better option. I been looking for an 850 outlander here but it's insane to find one but the 1000s I can almost trip over . Idk what to do.
I would suggest asking yourself what do i want my ATV to do 75% of the time. Then choose the one that fits that criteria the best
wish quads were more reasonably priced around the 10-12k range for ones that are 20
Yes its a high priced sport, no doubt. Finding a good used one at a reasonable price is also tough
Well. Great video. I happen to have both quads. A 2019 outlander xmr 1000 and the 2021 Renagade xmr1000 and you are correct in your review. High centre is the drawback of the outlander and total overall fun is the other big advantage with the renegade Both are beasts but I prefer the renegade
Great to hear real feed back from someone that has both!!
What is high center
@@jaketrat3725 the ground an underneath the center of th vehical is too high for the ground clearence and you gett hung up resting your frame on the ground while your wheels just spin with no weight (or not enough) to get traction. It can happen if your in deep ruts or, in the case where the longer wheelbase would matter, when your in a hole and go to climb out...after th front wheels clear, as you continue to move forward, your frame will contact the ledge at the top of the hole. With the longer wheelebase, your back tires havnt reached the wall of the hole so the rear of the machine cant climb up and out. All it can do is push forward to try to reach the wall o the hole but the frame is caught ( High centered) on the edge at the top of the hole. Hope this helped.
I completely agree with this video. My 2021 Renegade 570 xmr went through a few mudholes no problem that a 2020 Outlander 1000 xmr got stuck in. Made me feel even better about going with the Renegade than the Outlander👍🏽
Ya Buddy! Its not always about HP!!
Except for the fact that the 570 outlander xmr is cheaper and has the shorter wheel base
I got a 650 way shorter that an 1000 outlander best choice I’ve ever made with the outttty
I’m lookin at the 850xmr. Seems if I’m ok not getting the 1000 then the also powerful 850 would be fine and all I need is to cut and clutch for bigger tires and run better snorkels(or don’t go as deep).
Yep you got it! The 850 is a performance engine, no doubt. It allows you the option to spend money on clutches, tuning and tires for closer to the price of the Renegade stock. BUT the 1000 does get you just that much more power. There is a difference but the 850 is a great choice!
Every smaller bike gets stuck in the same holes, the longer frame means your wheels aren’t in the same holes at the same time… and I like the larger fenders where mud is concerned.
Can we have a video of comparison between renegade xxc and outlander one seat xxc ?
I would love to, hopefully I can get it set up this spring.
@@ADVENTURESThisWay sounds greattttt
I picked up my 22 outty xmr 1000. I like the renegades but the design of the outty just looks and functions better. Stock for stock u will have a lot more fun with the outty. Mainly due to the rad restrictions
Sorry but I disagree with you, stock for stock no contest for the Renegade all day.
Congrats on the new machine!!
Cody Jones Just say "Outlander" instead of outty.
@@moshy_pro_560 force of habit at this point 😆
@@moshy_pro_560why’s it matter?
I do a little bit of mudding but not to the level that this video shows. I also do some swamp bogging. Over all for what I do most it would be the outlander for sure. I'm on extremely steep hill climbing and very long trails with lots of rock as well. I also prefer to stay as dry and clean as possible so definitely an outlander guy. Don't get me wrong the renegades are awesome and would love to try one for a bit.
The Max chassis works very well on steep, rocky climbs for sure! The Renegade with tall tires is sketchy at times!
I’ve owned a 21 renegade xxc and went to a 23 outlander xxc. Outlander turns sharper and fender coverage. Really similar setups otherwise.
Im a big fan of the Outlander XXC. Not sure what you mean how it turns 'sharper' as the wheel base is the same on both. Or does it feel that way with the stock tire set up being skinny tires on the front?
I will say this i love my outlander 21 1000xmr. That beast will go thru anything. I remember she got stuck once but i did it on purpose to see the out come i was upset. I had no one to ride with just my .45. No problem took my winch cables came with my beast throw around that tree an pull here out. Go with the outlander
The Outlander Max chassis has its pluses and minuses. You like what you like. Glad to hear you enjoy yours.
Youre right but in my Locations and in my Country you dont Need bigger weels or very high snorkels. In my Country there are not many Places to mud ride but When there are places you dont need a Renegade.
But very Good Video!!🎉
What country are you from?
@@ADVENTURESThisWay Germany
@@Mxrco_2418 well your riding in Germany must be so much different than Eastern Ontario, Canada 🇨🇦
@@ADVENTURESThisWayyeah it is
Looking to get a can am soon. I’d like to see what you prefer if the outlander would be better for 2 people as for my wife loves riding but not driving lol. Or any other atv that you would prefer for 2 people?
any of the Can Am 850 Max chassis woild be a great choice, or 1000 if its in the budget
Such an awesome video, Don!! I couldn't agree more with you as long as you're into mudding! Your video sparked some ideas in my little brain and I think you and I could partner up and do a collaboration video on differences in riding terrain and riding styles to create a broader comparison and give more people more information to help people make a choice between Renegade and Outlander. I'm back in Alaska now after a much needed long vacation and am installing new goodies on the new machine today.
Thanks so much!
Well I would certainly be interested in working together!
Goodies, you say??
@@ADVENTURESThisWay Got a set of Can Am Apache 360LT Tracks to maybe get to places I shouldn't get to for the six months or so of winter we get around here! Could not find a detailed "how to" video for installing these things and the typical can-am instructions that are harder to decipher than the bible in it's original context! SO I'm making one! LOL I'll write some ideas down and get with you to figure out how to do a colab video. I think I can just film my portion and get it to you, and you can use whatever parts of it you need to fit your video.
@@Broknex that's what happens! Can't find a good video, so you make one. Yes let's chat!!
The rad relocate on the renegade just looks off and weird and I feel it’s a necessary to have the rad relocate if your mudding, so in that case the renegade is uglier in my opinion but cool video still. I got a 2018 outlander Xmr 570 and I’m in love with it and I’m 6ft 250lbs. To me it’s everything I want. It still gets through pretty much all the mud I’m willing to go through, which I don’t go extreme mudding like you guys do in Canada with the NOS and everything lol but I like how simple and reliable the 570 is and it still has plenty of powerful to have a lot of fun and its still a very capable machine. Now if I was a full on mudder like you and was willing to spend tons of money than yes the renegade 1000 with bigger tires, higher suspension with a rad relocate and with Nos is the goat of mudding but the outlander is still almost as capable when it comes to mudding in itself
Great arguments!
I own a 570 Outty max pro+ and I'm happy with it but I can see the benefits of a Renny.
Thanks! The Renegade is a great platform, but at the end of the day a 570 will get you the same places for way less $$, maybe not as flashy, but very capable.
I like both but if I had to choose one it would be the Outlander.
I would use it for sport, utility and get some accessories for carrying hunting gear.
Yeah buddy!!! The renegade is a straight beast!! I love my renegade and wouldn't trade it for anything else.... all anybody has to do is watch a few of your mudding videos and they will understand lol
There is no denying it, they are a ton of fun. I could only imagine what a built engine with NOS would feel like!!
@@ADVENTURESThisWay Holy crap, I couldn't even imagine lol
@@ADVENTURESThisWay I hear Colby knows or Blackie knows lol😂
I’m not sure which one to go with cause I do a lot of trail riding but got a lot of mud to any opinions
Only get the Outlander if want to carry passengers some times. Otherwise Renegade no brainer!
it is not a fair comparation log frame vs short frame for mud, you should do renegade xmr vs outlander xxc, to be both short frames and same engines.
disagree, the title is 1000 xmr vs 1000 xmr....video is on point
i mean the video is great but if you are looking on the price you gotta take the g1 outander 800 an absolute beast first thing first: short wheelbase (same as renegade) second: price in germany you can get one for like 5k and so in america even cheaper third: the chassis are removed in like 5 minutes because of the old system (what i really do like) fourthyou dont need a new footrack for bigger wheels just cut some place out (because of the price) but there are bad points too ofc like the point that you gotta need some mechanic prior knowledge because you need to build the snorkel system on your own and another bad point is that the engine got the old control unit and ofc its only a 800but i got one on my own and i love it.
but its your own decision
I wanted the renegade but the big drawback I had was the extra 3k for an engine that's no faster than an 850. Just couldn't justify it. Sucks you really can't go mudding without a rad relocate too. So I went with the 850xmr.....with that said tho my next will definitely be a renegade 1000.
XMR is not geared for top speed, just get an XXC then...but let me tell you 1000 is plenty faster than an 850, come on now....
@@ADVENTURESThisWay I didn't say anything about top speed.but it's been proven time and time again that an 850 xmr and a 1000xmr bone stock are pretty even when it comes to head to head.
@@Connor-gc3uz they have speed limiters...if removed would tell a different story...
@@ADVENTURESThisWay when you get really up there in speed... but on the lower end they accelerate at the same pace
@@sambo6591 yes. So much fun. Mud for a little bit till I have to stop to clean the rad.
Good info, but last year you buy a 570 renegade xmr and this year is no longer available. I dont now why, the only engine you can get is the 650 and 1000.
Thank you...I heard rumor's of supply issues relating to no 570...in fact the 570 Outlander XMR 570 actually has a detuned 650 engine in it.
So ya.....I ride a XMR 1000 Outlander and I ride with 4 other renegades and can say I don't get hung up any more than they do. I also have an easier time getting out of holes with the longer chassis. Also you say the renegade has the best snorkel and the Outlander doesn't come with one then you turn around and say you can order the rad relocate for the renegade like the outlander....well you can also order that snorkel kit for the Outlander so that comparison goes out the window. #3 renegade comes with all the accessories....why do you think it's $2000 more they're not free lol. I put the full aluminum skid plates, hand guards and bought the 2up seat and the Yoshi exhaust and it put the price just over the price of the renegade and I now have a two up machine if needed. Oh and apparently renegade guys do need a rack because 3 out of the 4 renegades I ride with ordered an aftermarket mount and put the Outlander rack on the back. And your tire upgrades well maybe-ish I can fit 32" assassintors on mine and just have to trim a little of the plastic. The only thing I agree on is the ease of maintenance on the Renegade but I change my fluids twice a year so it's no biggie as long as I have a cold beer next to me. In the end it all comes down to personal preference between these two machines. Title should be "Top 5 Reasons Why I WANT A Can Am Renegade 1000 XMR (vs Outlander 1000 XMR).
That's great to get your take on this comparison. One question, do you run the same size tires as the riders on the Renegades? And yes I did say in video that, in some cases the longer wheel base is an advantage. The OEM snorkel kit for the Outlander only extends the Air intake, the CVT are still too low in comparison in my opinion.
Why don't you make a video about the subject???
Facts Of Life. Great show. Renegade is also lighter, I believe. Not by much though.
I believe 24 lbs....give or take
heh; your not really suggesting that the can am is easy to work on?
Maybe the new models are better; i've had a 2014 1000 rennie since new; its fairly nightmarish (was just swearing at the stupid secondary clutch install procedure about 2 hours ago).
Well, the stock clutches aren't the easier with out the proper tools or a second set of hands!
Hey did you get of the sled?
Not sure what you are asking...
Thought I caught one of your videos you saying you don’t have one maybe I was wrong
@@speeder757 Oh ok you are asking if I still had a sled...no this will be my second winter with out one. maybe in future I'll get another
Everything you said convinced me, ...I buying an outlander max 850xt
Good stuff...
I thought that both the renegade xmr and the outlander xmr both came with 30 inch tires. Not 28's. Either way. Good video
The true measurement is 28.25", its been well documented for several years FYI
When people talk about the fendersize on the Rene I just say u spent money to have fun why won’t u get muddy if ur going mudding that’s like saying I bought a hellcat but I don’t like the speed
Absolutely!
Nice machine , will have a winch install on can am maverick soon .
Right on
Renegade gets pretty hot. Those 1000s are mostly only good for open roads
Got to disagree on that one...
I need a can am outlander for travel 600 or 1000cc
As in long trail rides? Can Am doesn't offer a 600. Did you mean the new 700 Outlander?
Is a Renegade too small for a Rider @ 6'6" Height? :/
I would imagine you would need to add at least a 3" handle bar riser. Other than that should fit you fine.
@@ADVENTURESThisWay Awesome! Thanks for the heads up! Also any Rack recommendations for a Renegade?
@@michaelmaschinot2891 Far Mudding makes a decent looking one. Another one to look at is from Swamplife you can find him on Facebook. You get them customized to you liking.
@@ADVENTURESThisWay Thanks for the timely responses - love your videos! I am on the fence for an XXC Outty vs XMR Rene now :3
until you're racing other quads for best time, running crushed assassinators with nitrous. then the outlander max chassis is better due to not wanting to lift up in the front end compared to the Renegade wanting to wheely...
Well said and right on the money
Thanks Ron! I try to make some videos that people always ask questions about.
Renegade seems like a more capable mud machine but I like the look of the outlander 1000x better
We like what we like!
1) My outlande does just as good if not better than my buddies renegade in the mud
2) The renegades intake is not really all that much higher than the outlanders. The cvt intake is, but not the airbox intake. Depending on which snorkel kit you go with decides if the snorkels are in your way. You act like the rhino horn is invisible
3) Better accessories? Aluminum skid plates yes. But everything else my outlander came with. Who needs a rack? Anybody who wants to strap a cooler down. Oh you can just buy it for the renegade but the BRP is too out of hand. Same over the radiator relocate. You can get a can am approved snorkel extention as well. I like the cluster on my outty. Not a fan of the little square you get. And the passenger thing. You don't need the rear seat to have a passenger. The outlander "driver" seat is plenty big enough for a passenger with the storage box in place of the seat.
4) Maintenance is not that hard on the outlander. Sure its easier on the renegade, but don't be lazy.
5)You can fit bigger tires, but i can do floorboards cheaper than you can rad relocate to keep from overheating every time you go out.
6) They both look good. Renegade looks more sporty but calling the outlander ugly woulr be an outright lie
Fun fact. My 18 outty xmr outran my buddies renegade until he put clutches in his. Mine still has stock clutches. This video is misinformational. Somebody is mad they paid more for less.
Anybody reading my comment. If you don't know which machine to go with, think about the type of riding you'll be doing. Do you have a passenger? Do you climb hills a lot? They both have their perks. Not like this guy makes it out to be
I drove my buddy’s 850 xtp renegade and boy what a terrible ride. You’re sitting on all 4 shocks and feel every bump. I only drove it for 20 minutes and had to get back on my bike (850 xmr outlander) strictly hardcore mud driving I agree renegade but other than that it’s a hard no for me
Never heard of a Renegade XTP...anyways the shocks must have been set up super stiff. The shocks on an XMR Renegade are better than the Outlander. Also depends on tire pressure as well, for comparison. BTW Outlander and Renegades are the same machine underneath the plastic.
Take outlander 1000xxc short frame and do that xmr. Can am have all parts to do snorkeling and radiator relocation.
My choice is outlander 1000 short frame.😀
Yes this can obviously be accomplished. However the focus of this video was comparing the XMR versions available.
Absolutely 1000 short frame, best option. No question!
PS, I nearly purchased an Outlander 1000 XXC prior to deciding on the Renegade...
@@ADVENTURESThisWay Whats the max tire size an Outlander X XC will take with no mods?
@@michaelmaschinot2891 I think 29" true size is the limit
I just wish they'd have both had an actual real manual transmission. You can get a Honda with a DCT or manual transmission. But sadly most companies have a rubber band transmission that breaks all the time. I wish these companies would go to manual shift
Belts don't break all the time, that's a myth...CVT handles the bigger HP more effectively
I have both I’m chillin
I just am here waiting for a short wheel base 1000 outlander xmr
Not sure if they will ever release one. Next best option is get an X-TP model and convert into an XMR
Awesome video bud
Thanks 👍, glad you enjoyed it!
I'm in nova scotia cape breton island I ordered a 2022 renegade xmr 1000 all in taxs out the door $24,850 lol cant put a price on happiness but watch with my luck they come out with a outlander short frame 1000 like my xmr 560 outlander that would be insane
yes it is so much $$, but once you get over that, its such a blast to ride, it just feels so worth it.
@@ADVENTURESThisWay I cannot wait I'm glad I joined the club
But the only problem for me is that you can't put a back seat on a Renagade
Why would anyone want to?? Then get a max chassis.
I bet I can take my stock 2021 outlander 1000 xmr anywhere you can take the renegade
Sure anytime, I'll record it for you. May 2022...pick a day
I like the renegade but the fenders and the push bar I rather have a outlander
Everone has their preference...what do you mean by a 'push bar'?
I mean bumper but I remembered there is a renegade bumper that covers the whole front
All 5 is wrong
I have outlander and tried renegade, never will switch
Oil change in 10 min, and you don’t have remove anything to change the belt, only belt box
Both great four wheelers but with the renegade you will get more mud on you than an outlander
True but minor detail
When you’re playing in the mud, yes….you will get muddy. Thats kinda part of it.
@@PoonDestroyer69 yeah but it slings a lot more mud on you than a outlander
It’s takes 5 minutes tops on the min trail to Change a belt on a outlander
Main*
Maybe for you, but not for the average Joe...
My 21 outlander 1000 xmr all day I was pushing tires on my parents property. When I got mine I wanted everything snow plow bar light big back box on back with light. I don't want want to carry mine in 4 in of. Water my outlander 1000 xmr all day baby
I was pushing those tires an my neighbor was watching me . The hold time.
Nice vid, stir-fry man. You’re getting good at these.
Imagine what I could do with more than just two hands??
I can say this i was grease my front i end on my outty. I was pist at being not able . To grease. That fittings. I dont agree with u. The that 1000 xmr is a sexy machine. I like renys but the outlander better
The the renegade doesn’t have a rad relocate and it looks absolutely horrible with one put on. That’s the biggest problem.
#6 !!!!!!!!!
You like that bonus?
One more thing is that the renegade is a lighter and you can skim better
Yes most definitely and wheelie
Buddy, there the same thing one just has different plastic why pay $20,000 for plastic when I can get a 850 with so much more stuff like a rack, rad relocate and bigger screen for cheaper renegade is a rip of so don’t even say that a renegade will get you farther.
Well that's what I said alright...and no the max chassis is not the same...I have a video about the 850 Outlander XMR as well, cheers
Yes and this is why I am waiting for my 2022 850 xmr
@@dwaneeddy2293 smart move
Man i have a renegade xmr 1000 i cant beat my nephews outlander smh
Like in a drag race? If both stock should be pretty even...there is also the driver mod factor 😊
There is allot of miss leading info in this video 😂😂
More easier
all of the reasons you have mentioned in this video are unvalid asf if you know your quads, i can out do everything mentioned in this vid💀
The floorboard part is definitely not true.
How you figure? Please explain..
None of this is relevant now with the 25 year models outlander is a superior model in comfort and reliability now you get better engine cooling new 30in tires the same size frame the renagade has its all been changed most importantly the pricing
Fair point, but is relevant when video was produced in early 2023. When you get a new Outlander, you should make a video about how its better. But a true comparison would be with a Gen 3 Renegade if it ever happens...
@ADVENTURESThisWay i dont see it happening for awhile the outlander has the best sales because the versatility is better yeah people still by the renegade but the outlander has more potential buyers through the market that's why it got a upgrade seeing as there are multiple different models for work trail hunting mudding and in different specs from 500 to 1000 dont get me wrong I love them both but I've always thought the renegade is trying to be something its not it has the look of a sport atv on a bigger frame
They're nice but overpriced IMHO
Welcome to the world of performance powersports...
Renegades are just more betterer!
Ya Buddy!!
There is so much false information in this video
Really, for example???
Renegade is so ugly though 😅
LMAO this video is so biased its laughable!!!! LOL Outlander is far better!!
Did you read the title...but everything is true...im guessing you have a 1000 Max??? or your Mom owns one???
Bias to the max. Complained about the seat costing 800.. then tried justifying new tires, rack, and rad relocate! I love my 21 outlander xmr 1000r. Yes I've been stuck mostly because I was going in 2 wheel and got into trouble real quick. I went back to every spot I've been stuck and blasted it in 4 no problems. Pulled my fair share of every flavor quad and side-by-side out of the mud.
The big plus with the Max chassis is the ability to properly and safely carry a passenger. With the right tires and riding skills you can conquer tough obstacles on any machine. However, the more power it has the more funner!
They share the same shocks
No they don't, read the spec sheet
Longer chassis gets hung up? 😂😂😂😂
But there’s about 100 reasons to get a Polaris
Riiiight....