How to identify the notes of any song? | VoxGuru ft. Pratibha Sarathy
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Many of you have asked me this question! So here goes, a tutorial on 'How to identify the notes of any song'.
The moral of the story is "There is no shortcut to learn music"
Access to knowledge is how higher castes keep the power in the family .
Music is so easy and natural a caveman can do it without having to translate into abstract babble-on-and-on terms .
Exactly
That is scary
@@jowlorenz9555 It is not about caste. Notation is followed in foreign countries that do not have castes. In modern days people of all castes have access to music. Notation and other systematic techniques help in learning and making music universal than limiting it to a cave man singing only on natural instict. If madam wanted to restrict access to musical knowledge, she would not have posted this video.
Absolutely
There is a difference between colours and notes. Colours do not have any reference frame but Swaras do have. To sing 'Ga' you have to know where the 'Sa' is, whatever the scale may be. Its like mathematics. If 'Sa' is 'X', then 'Re' is 'X+2', 'Ma' is 'X+5' etc. X is a variable here which changes with the Scales, but the formula remains the same, whatever the scale may be. Unlike western classical you don't have to know the scale first to identify a 'swara' or Note. But you just can't sing 'Ga' randomly if you don't know where the 'Sa' is.
Thank you so much
Brother I understood what you mean to say mathematically but it will be nice if you can make a video on the same
Very true. Sound is wave frequency. Scale is changing frequency in a defined fashion. Therefore, Sa,that’s ones basic frequency, decides what Re,Ga etc are. The singer first establishes his Sa e.g. kali 5, safed 1. The upward scale is then determined as explained.
Yes, quite a difference. (1) Most people can't identify absolute pitch so instead you have to hear intervals ... so 7 notes is not "just like" 7 primary colors, it's 7! ... seven factorial for all the combinations. The color analogy would be looking at a picture of a house or something with many different colors and being able to identify each color in the palette. (2) The brain gives far more processing to visual than audible. It's far easier to say something is dark or light green vs. high or low octave of a particular note.
What's colour spectrum /visible range in light waves for? Our parents teachers don't use this scale to teach us colours. In the video she only used colour as an analogy. At the end of the day it's light and sound. Both are waves!
Wow, very educational, Indian culture never ceases to amaze me, what a beautiful guide from a lovely, intelligent person. Great love and appreciation from the US!
As a guitarist, primarily (multi-instrumentalist) with a music degree and a lot of ear training, i find this lesson a wonderful reinforcement of essential musical skills. I've always loved traditional indian vocal traditions so the cultural inclusion is just lovely. I hope i can make my guitar sing like you.
Best wishes.
So if you hear a song would you be able to play it without looking up the chords or notes? I kinda want to learn this song but I can’t find the chords for it online and idk how to find it the chords on my own
@@ulisesmeza8494 What's the song?
@@suchithsridhar8460 it’s not just one song. I want to hear a song and be able to know how to play it but idk how to practice that.
@@ulisesmeza8494 take lesson and practice
To become a good singer or musician , the person must be a good listener..
True
Yes!!
Very true
Absolutely true
And if you’re not in the beginning (me), while learning music and singing, one tends to become a good listener.
When you explaining something to us that background graphics was so helpful to understand much better. thank you for wonderful teaching madam....
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video!
@@VoxGuru yes, too good graphics.
But i can just close my eyes and listen to all your videos and enjoy them equally.. kudos my guru..
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@@VoxGuru 😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘
Not so easy...complexity easily explained. Nice simple rap to mind which sees music construction is complex ...till delving into it rather just listening ...am learning ...pretty late ..
I like the scientific approach you have in your explanation of Indian music with a Western twist.That's amazing especially for students who have interest to learn music but not had a formal training in classical training in music. Thanks so much.
I have now seen a couple videos of her. Not only she has deep knowledge of Indian classical music but she has wonderful skills to present it in simpler terms for average people.
Omg it's more difficult than Quantum mechanics 😓
Hahaha QM
U bet!
No terminator. Everything has its own difficulty level. Devotion is must 👏👏👆🙏
@Pure Mathematical Guruji maths tightening mind,music giving relaax.in music come maths will become more silent.😃😄😄.
You dont know quantum mechanics😒
I am a student
YOU ARE A BORN TEACHER, LADY. LEARNING MADE SO SIMPLE & LIVELY. MY GOOD WISHES.
Thank you! 😃
@@VoxGuru I had learnt the seven notes as Sa Re Ga Ma Pa Dha Ni. But today for the first time in my life, I saw Ri (instead of Re) and Da (instead of Dha) and I am completely confused now.
@@ShakuniMamaKaRishtedaarpoint so correct it may a language problem, though written Ri she pronounce Re .
@@ShakuniMamaKaRishtedaarI'm 0 at sangit and trying to learn
@@ShakuniMamaKaRishtedaar The syllables of carnatic music are different. This is indeed due to language. But you need not worry. Focus on the exercise. Take Ri as Re and Da as Dha and do the exercise.
The best teacher I found after times, lots of LOVE from Pakistan.
Nice to know that you hear Indian music....🇮🇳♥️🇵🇰
Really it's very useful for beginners
Never have I gone through such notes recognition practical & interesting vocal training, which is so interesting & easy to follow. Thx a lot.🙏🏼🙏🏼💖
She has such a lovely voice (reminds me a little of kavita krishnamurty)
Thank you so much!
Yes me to ...
It is true without knowing Sa you can not jump to next note. Another aspect is in hindustan classical music the notes are not sung not in pure tone musician gives flavour to pure notes as per his creativity.
Very useful for starters and best thing how you presented it....loved it
Thank you so much!
@@VoxGuru hello Mam IAM glad to here please make one app that would not take money plz mam that for starters
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@@VoxGuru hehe
You made me feel so grateful, VoxGuru !❤
Amazing way of explaining the details... Really a good teacher needs all these qualities... We can see the quality of your devotion and teaching skills... Pranam.
Simply love the way you present and teach! The videos are precise, informative, creative and ofcourse very interesting! Thanks for sharing such content for classical music enthusiasts!😊
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Woww how can someone sing so effortlessly like that. 😶
Why did my kindergarten didn't taught me notes when the they taught colors 😭
Looks like they also didn’t teach you proper grammar the rope of language on which you are walking is taut to the point of teaching you a lesson by snapping
sudarshan71 why comment on someone s English? It's irrelevant don't you think? No one is perfect .. I don't think the previous comment was sarcastic I too feel if only someone had taught me some basic classical music ☹️ (specially after hearing this lady sing and teach the way she does !!)
@@shikhab2250 Point taken- My remark was callous
sudarshan71 🙂
@@sudarshan71
1. if you could teach me what is wrong with that comment i would be happy to learn. No need for taunting or insulting.
2.You cant expect every netizen to write comments with flawless grammar.
3.im not writing something to my boss formally , im just writing a comment on youtube video.
You might be an english professor at worlds best university, that doesnt mean you can comment on someones english irreverently.
English is just a language.
I am a new student at 37, thank you for explaining so clearly, you are a gifted teacher, dhanyavadaha🙏🙏
Due to some reasons I have left learning music but today my good krma brought me to your channel. The concepts you are teaching are rare to find . By seeing only half of your video I am damn sure that your channel will truly benefit me.
Oh my lord I was thinking in the same manner,i thought i did some real good deeds to land on her channel!!!!
@@bhav250874 channel is brilliant that's why
On a serious note, her descriptions are actually very instructive. I found those useful.
Thank you!
Beautiful and clear explanation as well as attractive slide presentation.
May Saraswati Mata bless you.
Thank you so much.for a laymen in music this is a huge step in learning music."Kala or Art" is a God gufted phenomeneon only the blessed ones inherited.
My entire life was in a confusion about swaras and its relevance to singing. This video helped people like me with no musical background. Thanks a lot mam.👍
Music appreciation is an art in itself and you've just made it possible for many an Indian classical music affecienado, blessed 🙏 looking forward to more lessons like this one !
So far .... the best video I’ve found as a learner. Thanks. I’d love to explore more on this channel. Thanks.
In 80s HariprasadJi and Zakirji were playing in Pune. HariprasadJi played solo for the first 30 min with Zakirji enjoying the performance. Majority of audience couldn't enjoy it, but THOSE who enjoyed it had tears rolling down.. experiencing swargiya Ananda..
I am sad that noone explained me like this 10 years ago when I tried to learn music.
I feel the same..!
yeah
@@parbatiaikat1471 it's never too late 😉
@@San-uu7qc thank you
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Btw. Subh Holi 🙏😉
This is how learning should result as empowerment. Only good teacher can do it like you mam, not possible for everyone. Ton of thanks for such a wonderful video.
Singing is like ocean never ending and more n more tooo learn and innovate ❤
You are one of the greatest teacher of music with unique teaching method. Thank you guru ji.
Thanks for your motherly teaching of music. You are a blessing for those that have a heart for music but cannot afford to do it.
I always believe knowledge and teaching are two different things. Beta, you are great teacher. That example with color is so good. You have answered my question with so much simplicity. God bless you.
The example of colour and the reference of a note don't match.
Sa cannot be a defined colour.
Her explanation does not mention this.
We cannot hear a sound and call it GA or MA, without knowing the reference point.
We can call the GA or MA as SA in the absence of a reference point.
Music is haraam in Islam
This is the way to teach any subject properly like you... It is very clear attractive and easy.. thank you very much
I love your videos. You explain the topics so well and the vivid visual presentation helps to remember everything you say. Thank you so much.
I can't make out any svara but if I had a teacher like you I would not have been so completely uselss musicially...You are just an amazing teacher.
Very Interesting. I wish I had you teach me when I was young. But, it is never too late!
Loved it, though I am nowhere a person singing or learning music.! Realized how scientific our culture is.! From literature to music everything..!
Only the blessed one can be musicians. I am so thankful to you maam🙏 ,that aleast you are keen on teaching us the very basics of music.
I am looking forward for su ch wonderful videos from you.
Tq madam ji ,, I was searching whole net for this but no where I got answer . Tqqqq
Hi Madam, your class is very helpful to those who interested in learning music, your explanations are very simplified and easy to understand anyone with the help of your animations..it is highly appreciated.
Can you please advice me how you are creative this animations?
Thanks again for you wonderful presentation
Hundred percent useful, now I understood how to train our ears.
Thanks a lot.
Now only I found your channel...so superb...I learned music but at point of time I skipped it...again by seeing your videos I feel I can learn it again.
You are mastered teacher ,you simplify the way of teaching .I enjoyed .everything looks difficult till we learn .my big salute to this teacher.
very good teaching method . really appreciate from core of my heart.
Hii pratibha mam ..I'm searching for this kind of video frm so many tym... I'm really impressed with ur teaching way ...I'm very much weak in identifying swaras... we'll try this.hoping that I will able to identify swara sthana🙏😊
Thank you, how wonderfully you simplify the music learning of swaras and sound.
Thanks mam, after 21 yrs I'm learning music again, this channel is quite helpful for all music lovers .
GOD BLESS YOU. YOU HAVE ANSWERED A QUESTION I HAVE BEEN LONG STRUGGLING WITH.
Thanks a lot!
yar sare bengali singers hi hote he kya?
@@PankajSharma-jl3ec haha, kaafi hadd tak
True... Same here
Hello mam, your communication skills r so good. Along that u have explained such a complex thing in such an easy way. I wish all teachers should be like u.
Also your voice is very nice.
Your pronunciation of surs r so clear
& sweet. Please make video on what r the things which a singer should take care of while singing, especially for beginners.
THANKS MAM
I wasn’t taught how to identify colours. I was just taught what names they are given which is completely different.
Exact thing happened to my sister, now she can't identify colours but only knows names
Exactly, this is where she is wrong... but let her be happy! lol
Yep, and that’s why this video is BS. With music, you either have perfect pitch and during the process of learning the instrument you hear and recognize the notes on your own (without the need to do these types of exercises) or, you don’t, and therefore you literally CAN’T remember the note you heard in the first place, and when you can’t store that information, you won’t be able to do the exercises she mentioned and whatnot. In theory, this guideline would work, but IRL, you are either perfect pitch and don’t need it, or you’re not perfect pitch, and need to learn intervals (through many years of practice and experience) and with a baseline note (either if you have an instrument in hand, or with your own voice) detect the interval between the baseline note and the note you are hearing, and therefore calculate it this way.
Yeah one identifies red is red or whatever name it has, or no name for it. Perfect pitch is different, yes I know we call certain note C, doesn't mean I can identify it randomly.
Which color would be E in the western music scale ?
Among the plethora of music taught progs , your talks make sense . Great way of teaching lady !
Best explanations....& Very effective i tried......but it take so much consciousness & awareness .....if we really want to do it in right way... thanks again
Greatest voice ever...
Beautiful Accent ..
Stay blessed mam..
Thanks a lot!
@@VoxGuru
U r welcome mam..
U doing Dual Course.. for me along with music.. my English also becoming better . ThanQ Mam. 🙏💐
Love your style of teaching, u simplify and make us enjoy the process
Wow. How easily you explained. Thanks
Ms. Prathibha you are so right "want learn this part only" it can't be like that it is as a full package. Learning aero plane training is few months, but learning music takes more time and also it gives more pleasure. After few months spending learning swaras I changed my way of thinking. It impacts on our behavior also in good way. Thanks again you are a greatest teacher ever known. Appreciate what you do.
OMG!! You're so Good Ma'am. I am a Beginner and I had exactly the same thing goin in my Brain n u explained it so very well n systematically. I'm glad i saw this. I'll definitely do these exercises. Thanks a lot again.
Wow mam
Excellent explanation. You've made me more aware of the octave and their identification. The root or fundamental well explained. Many thanks and regards. Keep up the effort. We feel enriched.
Fantastic! This is absolutely brilliant. Like learning abcd and then words and sentences by the ear!
It is just so clear. Love ❤️
Thanks a lot!
Awesome way of explaining. Of course step 4 goes over my head. It's been four years since I've been playing the keyboard and learning new songs but I can't identify notes in a song to save my life! My teacher gives me swaras I play. Sometimes she gave me games like ask someone to press a key on the keyboard and guess the note. Can't do that either.🙄
It's about habit. Since you got the swaras from the teacher there was no requirement to identify the notes by ear.
One game is to try and identify a single note in your favourite song the base note of the song (for example the sama). Try different notes (high, middle or low) till you find the correct note. Then it gets easier as notes normally cluster around some important notes.
Key is to play a game to figure out if a note is lower than previous one or higher? If it's higher how many notes higher is it? 1, 2, 3 notes higher? Similarly for lower notes. Many times the same note is repeated so it becomes easier.
Keep doing this until you're able to play a short phrase in the song. Next you can try to identify other phrases till you get the entire song.
Your voice is so melodic and very soothing to the ears.
You've explained it beautifully ma'am. Thanks for your effort.
From my experience, I realized that people are unable to get the Sa. A few of them can identify, but get confused with Pa. Just making them sing Sa with tanpura is probably the best first step.
WoW!!! I have enjoyed a successful career as a singer/songwriter for years and always wanted to do this. THANK U SOO MUCH for making it so simple and palatable, it is GREATLY appreciated. Blesu sis!
Where were you all this years mam! No one taught this simple.Really enjoyed this vdo. Hope you make more vdos on ear training.
For beginners without inborn music sense this is very helpful.one get bored doing those saregama exercises without this knowledge and stop learning.this is fun way at the same time very intersting. Thank you.
Your patience and passion is awesome... Thank you...
As to how to identify the notes of a song, I just pick a particular note, like moh in the song moh moh ke dhaage, play a series of notes on my piano to find a match. Then the same for the two notes of dhaa ge and so on. In minutes I can play a line of the song on the piano. But then the very difficult part is to know which is the Sa or Ga etc. Oh, I can say this is a C# or an E etc but then to figure out the scale is very difficult.
I was trying to figure this out for the song Man Tarpat Hari Darshan Ko Aaj from Baiju Bawra. I found it uses a D Sharp (E Flat) minor scale but missing the notes to match the pentatonic Malkauns (Hindolam) raaga. Very painstaking process because I took piano lessons 30 years ago and have played very little since! 😁
Are the swaras same as the “Do Re Mi......” but all in all I love how she always breaks things down
Martin Devadason thanks Mart 🙏🏾
Yes 😊😊
No ! The concept of Svara is not explained in this video, and confuse musical notes and svaras. Svara need a tampura drone to be indentified as such. Do re mi fa sol...don't. Svaras is an Indian musical concept that is different form the concept of note. So somehow this video will perfectly fit indian claasical background listener, south asian, but not at all a western listener.
@@arnauddidierjean108 thanks 🙏🏾 for the clarity
@okello closest answer is c note =sa, d=re, e=ga & so on ..
What a wonderful explanation Heart touching the way the lessons are told
Ms. Pratibha Sarathy - Thanks for sharing ..This video should be the 1st class in any music Lesson! Excellent explanation, it sets student's expectations and of course there isn't any short cuts!!!
Applying this to learn piano. Thank you so much
I don't know about music but damn sure u are a genius mam.
so clear and understandable teacher. im getting interested in this, i dont know if i would be able to learn singing as i am 35 yrs olds haha but i will try and challenge my brain to learn. thank you guru g
Thank you for this lesson. I found it very helpful and amazing.
Madam, identifying a particular swara depends on the scale in which we sing. You have not explained that. If you have sung the notes in C scale, it will be different in D or B scales, right? Ga in C scale will be Re in D scale. So these differences need to be explained.
exactely
As it is I'm confused.. 😭
This needs to be explained.....I'm dying to get it right way since very long time 😑
However I know that we have to identify the scale of the song and according to that notes are recognized, but the problem I'm facing is how to identify the scale of any song😕
One frustrating word that every teacher says
Practice
Everything needs practice. If you are learning an instrument, vocals or for that matter even studies. Everything requires practice for your experience so that you can put your own brain and master it completely.
@@youtubecommenter801 ''Practice makes it perfect ''
Yes it is frustrating. But frustrations arise because you are only fascinated not Devoted to music. Devotion came from blood and it can't be suppressed.
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Well, life is not ready-to-eat food and it won't come with manual! We just have to try and test it every day until we get it!
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Excellent presentation breaking down a complex concept. Loved it!
Wow that was one of the best music classes I have ever attended. Top-quality Thanks
One of the best training videos I have seen in youtube. Great approach, using technology.
1 - Made simple for beginners to understand
2 - Animations are used for best visualisation.
3 - Very humble to learners although you are an expert.
4. Starting from scratch and in apt step-by-step manner. Easy to digest.
Keep up this wonderful helpful work. You are great.
So wonderful. I wish I had a teacher like you. Thought I was tone deaf until I watched this and realized my ears can intact pick up notes. Amazing that you made the process simple like a game instead of the stressful experience I had felt until now.
Thank you! Watch out for more exciting content on this channel!
@@VoxGuru I had learnt the seven notes as Sa Re Ga Ma Pa Dha Ni. But today for the first time in my life, I saw Ri (instead of Re) and Da (instead of Dha) and I am completely confused now.
Ma'am u hv a Lovely singing ability. a very gd voice. God Bless.
It's very easy to understand the concept just because of u. U make videos in such a way that it looks easiest
Hats off to you for making music reach every strat of society.
Thank you!
Awesome
Damn, this is actually so tough. Actually doing this for 3 weeks.
3 weeks!? Try 3 years at least if not 30
It's not difficult at all , I did it for almost 2 months and I nailed it ..
Keep patience you will surely ace it! 🙂
@@maanitamukherjee3915 I gave up on it half way. Did not see any progress and left it. Need so much patience.
I melted at the beginning of video
This is so helpful. Tq a million..
Fantastic way to teach music.👍🏻
it's so much easier. still need to find the complete chart, of tones and scales.
Fellow BOC fan
I am a guitar 🎸 player but it’s helpful ... you’re good
Excellent music teaching method.
You are simply a great Music Guru
Ma'am absolutely enjoyed and craving to learn everything
Thank you so much for this information, i was cursing myself as people seem to do this so effortlessly. (Though I'm certainly not even close the core demographic of the video.lol)
Very nice mam👍👍
Your videos are so good and so informative. Loved it very much. Thanks to you♥️
Very useful ...I ve been wanting to know dis for a very long time!!!
U have such a beautiful voice
Hi bruh im also sufi lots of lob
You know, I have a different example. Just like colors, I use the example using food! But same concept.😅👏🏻👏🏻How a mother feeds her child with basic food, to the food which a child can identify its favorite delicacy. Experience matters!
Lovely 😊
So please give your channel link
I want to play flute
@@sanjayprajapati2368 I don't upload videos on UA-cam, I just teach music live. 😊
You are best Guru... I was wondering how musicians play music without 🎶 Listening is not only beneficial in day to day life but for music too. ...well done ✔
Thank you 😊 💓
I need this.. so fine explained and clear
Thank you 🙏