How To Sing Gamakas - Vocal Coach REACTION (VoxGuru ft. Pratibha Sarathy)
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Please react to Anuja Kamat speech in TED X India.
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They exhibit pure raag malhaar and raag tilak kamod
Please do Reaction Video On Swaradhish Dr. Bharat Balvalli sings Hari mhana. .
Its Awesome songs . .. . . . . ! ! ! !
Please do a video on KS Chithra's Live singing , The South Indian Nightingale ❤️
Love it when an expert of one music kind listens to and reacts to music from another part of the world..Its like watching a voyager on his journey in a new and facinating world..
Well done..look forward to your '..once in a while' reactions to Indian Classical music and its intricacies.
I'll make sure that "once in a while" comes more often. Depends on how much people share this video ;)
I am bit late, but wanted to share something. It is kind of counterintuitive-- but the very disciplined and almost straitjacket like rules in fact frees the singer. A seasoned maestro is able to riff off yet remain within the confines of the rules. My father said it is like a Kite. It flies freely in the sky but the string of discipline is always in your hand and you control it. If there is no discipline then the kite drifts aimlessly which is useless. Similarly you won't produce music but devolve into chaos. I am certainly no expert but a very enthusiastic amateur and this is my understanding.
Well put, sounds about right to me! Thanks for commenting!
I really loved your comment and the information you gave. It's so reflective of our culture, building order in the midst of chaos. Another interesting fact I found in Anuja Kamat's video where she enlists major differences between Western music and Indian classical music is the concept of rhythm. In our Indian classical, its cyclical, whereas in Western music, its linear, therefore they have bars. Anuja explained about ratios like 1:2, 2:3 and so on & so forth. The Western concept of time has been linear whereas in our concept Time is cyclical which is well reflected in the rhythm of our music.
@@kuresh2958 Thank you. The information you shared was enlightening.
@@akankshapatwari4167 I got something more to share. You know, this guy reacted to another one of those Anuja Kamat videos, wherein she explains the Raag Bhairav and the concept behind it. She stated quite explicitly that Raag Bhairav has notes that are quite pensive and deep yet neutral as if imbued with a sense of renunciation which in turn is reflective of the Indian philosophy that the end of life or anything should be done with a feeling of surrendering or renunciation and liberation. And, as Indians, we are well acquainted with Bhairav/Shiva who represents the end of all cycles and therefore liberation/moksha. He is also the eternal yogi who has renunciated all the worldly desires and materialism. My point is that our music, our singing, our culture, our mythologies, the stories about our gods and goddesses, it's all so interconnected and interrelated. The whole concept of art imitates life and vice versa.
@@kuresh2958 Yes, that is why we never had any dilemma about Science and God I think.
I loved u tried to connect everything with western music! Learning new things. Please react move to Indian music full of wonders!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed my video! Consider sharing it around since that helps me grow my channel and subscribing! As for the reaction, I'll see what I can do
Dude just a small note.. These amazing girls put up very interesting, informative vids.. Whereas Careful not to confuse Anuja speaks of hindustani classical music (northen) and Pratibha speaks of Carnetic classical music (southern). Both very similar as well as different. 💜💜💜💜💜
Anuja speaks for Carnetic music too. She doesn't talk about northern classical music.
@@thehawkseye3412 im saying in context of their individual videos on ornamentation
It's similar but different in approach. For example, the concept of raag, although similar, the way it is used is quite different. For instance, the chalan being the essense of the raag, is not at all important from a carnatic perspective. Also meend is also not essential in carnatic. In this sense you can even say that Hindustani and carnatic is quite different
@@aravindkrishnan7498 chalan is important but derived from the table instead. earlier hindustani had the same system but only few raags got popular so the older system was dropped. that's why maybe challan is more important in hindustani.
@@aravindkrishnan7498 meend just consolidated a few types of gamaka together without going into the depth of it. honestly i feel the only deficit in the hindustani notation system butt the rest of the ideas are conveyed quite well
please react to how to sing lag ja gale by vox guru you'll love it.
I'll see what I can do
@@HofTheStage oh yes that's very beautiful, you will understand all the gamakas used practically. It's "how to sing lag ja gale"
@@HofTheStage this song 'lag ja gale' is originally sung by Lata Mangeshkar
It's one of her best song in her peak time
It's recommended first to react to the original song first and then the tutorial how to sing it
It's a Romantic song from a horror movie from early 60s
@@HofTheStage do regularly indian content
@@HofTheStage Please, do react to it! It is a really beautiful example to find gamakas.
Part of the reason you weren't able to do the double note gamaka with ease is because of your vibrato. Usually in Indian classical music, there is no vibrato at all. If you were holding the notes steady instead of vibrating them, it would have made this much easier.
This is a very good practice, holding a note as steady as possible for as long as possible. It also allows more control over one's vibrato. Usually after practicing a vibrato well, it is very easy to be carried away and put in vibratos everywhere. Having that control over when to use it and when not to is a very important skill and this helps.
One small advise. Don't try to put too much pressure and volume into notes when you are trying to sing gamakas. Try to be lighter with your voice, that will add flexibility to your voice and you will find it more easy to sing gamakas.
That is the reason why sometimes female singers might find it easier to sing gamakas as they have lighter tones compared to male voices.
I love Carnatic music and I learned a lot from her, love her lessons
the difficulty for you singing ma ma is bcs of language. We indians have that easy bcs of the languge ma is one of our consonants so we dont find it difficult and also re re you are swallowing r's thats not your fault english speakers dont fully prononce r's unlike indian languages so just keep it in mind and Keep up the good work
I love this series. I live in west with a teenager kid and try to explain Carnatic music to her and I struggle a lot. So I love this series. One thing I want to point is that Indian stuff is absolutely extensive in anything - music, dance, cooking - these guys have books tha are super old and so much technicality involved. So I have a basic question - why do you switch between Hindustani and Carnatic for your series? Gamaka for instance is slightly different. Will help to stick to one I guess. Both have different nomenclatures - right from raaga names. This one is based on Carnatic and the raaga one was based on Hindustani.
U can't learn Indian classical music by watching videos!
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Then how u think. What if perfect videos for perfect student
If you want to hear songs from different parts of India, plz react to Sound of Nation live performance by Amit Trivedi! I bet this is your type of music, that you would love to explore!
Agree with Tarun Lakhera. Sound of a Nation is a treason. The south and east are completely ignored. Its more of like Sound of Hindi Nation, or atleast Sound of Bollywood. Its not as big as its name means it to be. Definitely a downer.
Hi
You will understand gamakas better with a stringed instrument like guitar, mandolin ,sitar or Veena.
Jaaru is heard when the first pluck is for the starting note and immediately plucking while on the starting note itself, before the finger traverse for the destination. This way jaaru can be fully experienced all way to the destination note.
When the string is pressed on a note and oscilated laterally, in such a manner not to exceed upto the next note nor when it has decsended into the previous note.
Janta can be heard when the first note is pressed with the index finger and the middle finger follows suit quickly to replace the index finger according to the tempo of the song.
Spuritam is a fast forward version of janta. Here the pressing technique is by quickly raising and tapping the string by the middle finger while the index finger is pressing the previous note.
May be some Veena teachers have posted to demonstrate these. Check it up.
Hi H, sorry to burst your bubble, but Indian Classical music has two distinct types of schools of learning which are very different. the first is the Southern Style which is Carnatic named after a southern Indian State. Carnatic Style is extremely different in learning and Teaching and that influences the music and where it has its place in everyday life. The other style is Northern Classical which is just called Indian Classical music, to distinguish the two we call the Northern Style just Indian Classical Music, the Southern Style is specifically called Carnatic Classical Music. The rules stay the same but the teaching methods are very very different. The names of the exercises are different too.
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Northern Classical style is called Hindustani Classical.
Classical music....
Then the there's semi classical
And then light music (new music/Bollywood/pop music)
The ma is not pronounced like that in Indian music, you need to learn the language in order to understand the pronunciation. Ma and Maa are different.its a flat ma where sound of m and the subsequent a is in the same pitch.
I'm happy that you are trying to learn Indian Classical music. I'm sure this will open-up more for your singing pallet. You may want to check out Mahesh Kale's "kanada raja pandharicha" performance to see how all these techniques are utilized in singing classical way. And you have not yet looked at any classical male singers anyway so might be very good starting point.
React to more indian classical music. I loved your reaction everytime. My suggestion is react to RANJANI AND GAYATRI video of darbar
Amazing reaction and explanations.
Thank you :) Please share the video around, it helps me grow my channel and subscribe!
Interesting,thank you! Nice to learn about other cultures music theory. 😊🎵🎵
I just got afraid at 4:00 😭
That's how my father reacts ...when he see's my report card 😂😂😂
India has two distinct classical music - Hindustani and Carnatic. Anju’s video was about Hindustani and this one is Carnatic.
5:12 Holy hell you have perfect pitch?! I wish I could pick out a particular key like that.
There's a cut in the vid lol, he looked that up
At 9:50
Problem is u r extending time of a note that may not give time for ganaka
If u try sa sa in like talking
Sa sa sa sa sa sa ...
Now try using the music sa sa u will naturally find a tint to the next one
Sa sa but on 3rd u'll balance it and repeat singing it same✨
In Indian classical music, there are 2 types ...Hindustani and Karnatak. This video was for only Karnatak music...Which has its own style. Many similaries, but quite different too
Sorry..Carnatic Music...Wrong spelling 🙈
"ma" is a little about pronunciation too, you're right
One more comment. What Anuja kamat explained was technically Hindustani music Raha system.
Pratibha explains the other great system of Carnatic music.
This is Very specific to Carnatic Classical.. Indian classical has two types - North Indian classical and Carnatic Classical... Both are equally rich.. keep exploring mate.. it's an endless journey... Our experts say when "Music reaches its prime - unfortunately the musician is beyond his/her prime" . We indians/Hindus believe in rebirth - so also say that we need multiple births to be a Maestro
Stomach..chest..throat..nasal cavity.. These are the sound sources you need to master. These are the same ones used in yoga for pranava meditation... Also the four sources of speech mentioned in ancient texts
ತುಂಬಾ ಚೆನ್ನಾಗಿದೆ...👌👌👌🤝🤝🤝🙏🙏🙏👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️
Light music are those which are pop-music mostly used in movies or personal albums
In India, we have two sub geners of Music. One is Hindustani and other one Carnatic. Hindustani mainly follows north area of India and Carnatic in south. Ms. Prathiba following Carnatic style mainly. Everybody can follow her to know basic of Carnatic music. Simply serach 'ornamentaion in Indian music'. Gamaka is an example of vocal ornamentaion. Gamakas are main vocal ornamention/adorments in Hindustani and Carnatic.
10:29 he just can't open his mouth when it's maa maa 😂 .. well indian languages are made so that you can full this off easily but still it takes talent to do everything beautifully..
She is using head voice for ma note
Hi I'm a new subscriber. Seen a few of your reaction videos and enjoyed them.
Please react to most of her videos you'll get tremendous insight into world of carnatic music
Wow i m really amazed to see the beauty of music.. Indian culture is really amazing
I hope our H will be pro in Indian classical music ❤️👍
I am north indian but I love karnatic music 😊
Hey, absolutely love all your reactions. Waiting for more. However, I never suggested anything till now.... but, really would like to the song called TOMAKE BHALOBESE KOTHAY JABO SHESHE from the webseries called TANSENER TANPURA. It's a great application of Raga JOG in commercial scenario. Beautifully composed, it has the ability to overwhelm the listener. Can you at least listen to it? It's easily available on the UA-cam
Hey H of the stage
Plz read the full comment if u want to learn something about very interesting
About all kind of singers in the world
Hi I m engineer as a professional but writing is my hobby from the childhood
And it means I have a habbit of deep thinking on everything
So from the childhood
Every human being starts learning from surrounding,and without learning in schools we already know our local language before even we start the schooling
So Basically
Every language (language means which has a proper litrature) there are certain rules to speak a word (means every vowel and consoNant ) and child learn it by surrounding by just listening these
But do u know that in each word u
Sometimes u need to speak from your certain or different movement of toung
Sometimes u need to speak from ur throught only
Sometimes u need to connect ur lips (for exp "pa" ,"ba")
So every language which has different litrature has different style to speak same word.
That's make unique
Now just compare English language with hindi
English has only 5 vowels
But in hindi there are more than 20-30 vowels
Think about consonant than
English has only 21 consonant
But hindi has way more than that
And this same hindi speaks in a different way in different parts of India
If I have to define that than I can
say " mother toung language". Australia has different,America has different way to speak similarly Briton has different way to speak same English language.
Now think about this if hindi has these much vowels and consonants more than English
In whole india there are I don't know more than 1000 languages.
Means the way of speaking is different 1000 times and if multiply with mother tongue language......
Means if u try to learn other languages means u can add too much creativity in ur song ,that's why india is rich with creativity,u can't even imagine
I think if u want clerify ur song
Go back to litrature studies of ur English language
That's the best way
I m now professionally trained,but I can sing well just coping from our famous Indian singer
Thanks for reading I hope u will reply to me about my thoughts
In Indian civilization, classical dance or music, or natya shastra or drama, are all divine. It's not just for carnal joy, but devotion towards the creator. That's the original concept. So, temples were the centre-stage, un old times.
Pls, may I request that you use Sun Raha Hai Na Tu for your study of Gamakas. TY.
Indian music have blend taste of origin i.e. states they originated..it seems Karnataka music...pure form of music(most southern Indian music) than the Hindustani which have blended with many cultures..what I understood as of now classical music...
Could you please react to Kalinga Narthana Thillana? ua-cam.com/video/gYiRRS1Qpu8/v-deo.html It's an ancient composition from 1700's, and has been rendered beautifully by the children in this video. Since you enjoyed Gamakas so much, I'm sure you'd appreciate this song.
Hi there !
This definitely calls for a reaction !!
Pandit Bhimsen Joshi - Explosive Performance - 1971
Indian music is really colorful.
sa sa re re ga ga ma ma... you pushed everthing man.... 😉
The whole world is full of varying kinds of chanting, many of them devotional, as they often rose from Scriptures, hymns, and prayers. America, specifically has the amazing Negro Spiritual, a unique and beautiful voice in English chanting!
Hiii... 3:57🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👍👍👍👍👍
I think she is basically expert in South Indian Carnatic classical. We need Hindustani classical youtuber too. In fact we need both.Can anyone recommend?
ua-cam.com/video/eZI7kQmfu7c/v-deo.htmlsi=5UnMpY_sTZ_BDy4n This is the song she sings to explain the gamakas, composed in 1988 by Music genius Ilaiyaraja , using carnatic raga in fusion with western music arrangements.
Your ma has low nasal part.
Her nasal Ma is the reason you have difficulty picking it up. Cause its practice from childhood
Indian classical music is divided mainly in two parts. Hindustaani and Karnataka ( Carnatic) music. So this video is based on Karnatak music and Anuja Kamat one was based on Hindustani classical.
Indian classical music is a completely different leay of life. Takes years of training to mould the vocal cords in a specific manner ,music style.
Thanks for doing this....you just did it
West is west and east is East
You will fail Man,stay where you people are ‘comfortable’ with..
Learn Sanskrit first
3:10 so it's not the same as 'sliding'.... It's about theoritical context... the note will belong to the secondary intead of the primary note
Finally you reacted to this video thank you
5:34 it's sound like autotune 😀
React to Mahesh kale albela sajan from sur nava dyas nava
Her name ....prathiba sharathi ..... 🙂🙂🙂🙂 You pronounce wrong
She is sing normal ma ma, she may have little nasal that should be ignored, by including the nasal, you're ruining the raga
You have to listen to Jonita Gandhi's live performance. Her voice is over the top! ua-cam.com/video/WMIQix6NW7g/v-deo.html
Please react to "Ennule Ennule song " live performance by swarnalatha. She voice melt our heart.
React to sid SID SRI RAM
loved it how you elaborated.
check out this mesmerizing example of turning carnatic classic practice lessons into a composition : ua-cam.com/video/ZWriXbh3cA8/v-deo.html
U r what we called a real vocal coach.. Totally awesome video.
Please react on salman ali and nitin kumar face off... Please...
It is a singing competition between salman ali and nitin kumar
try not to sing it actually... i also use this with my students...i approach it easier as a speaking voice with intentional melody
try to "mah" more like the inglish world "my" without the "e" pronunciation at the end
You need to have a pure and good quality voice to learn these Indian styles. It's not for everyone.
Namaste is Hindi which is northern and Carnatic music is southern so u would say namaskar or vannakam
Man...kampitam means ....quake.... Its like earth quake...😂
Dude you're from Balkan. Don't act like we don't have this as well 🤣
Mate that ma ma is just coz of Indian accent. It's just fFsustain in cmajor scale.
🧚yipeee weeeee...love to watch your reaction 😊
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Wont take time for hindustani classical singer.
Indian music 😍❤😘
Western slide sounds like a Donkey's bray.
Indian music is I love ❤️ ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Awesome! 👌 Please react to Kuldeep M Pai
if u need to master 'ma ma'.. sound.. u need to master tamil language... normally u will looks it difficulty.. bt, it will easy if exercise with tounge..
Note that there are mainly two types of Indian classical music, the Hindustani music and Carnatic music. What you are listening to is Carnatic music theory.
Sir u r doing wonderful job
I have subscribed to learn with and hopefully be able to sing Sun Raha Hai Na Tu❤️
It's the beauty of carnatic music 😍
Lerning from sri lanka 🇱🇰🇱🇰
Well Anuja talk about hindustani indian music and vox guru talks about carnatic music , they ahve some differences
Good to know for my future videos, thanks!
dont call yourself vocal coach.
you are pronuncing it with plosives.... try not to use the western way of pronouncing sounds...example the PTK, BDG plosives...
I'm not exaggerating, but you are listening to the origins of classical music. India is richest in Music in the whole world!
And do credit the Indians when u use their concept
Thanks for reacting my request video ❤️❤️❤️🤩🤩🤩🤩
6:49 that song is ingrained in every people in the south of India.
Ninnukori varnam ❤️ composed by Ilayaraja mastero 1988, Sung by Legendary singer Chithra, i wasn't born in the 80s but still its ingrained in me.
Ninnukori varnam was composed by Ramnad Srinivasa Iyengar. Check your sources and do not quote film music into a classical discussion.
@@sowmitriswamy6718 That's right! The movie version has no connection with the original composition! It was just tweaked to fit into the fast paced bgm.
Well, as a lover of oriental music (indian - which is totally special, but also arabic (turk, persian) - they use approx. quarter tones, but they aren't exactly quarter tones!), for me western music sound for me... dull. It's a matter of taste of course, like any other art, so I speak only for myself.
Another interesting music is indonesian scales (pelog and slendro), but... I don't enjoy so much.
Even I wasn't grow with oriental music (in fact in my family oriental music is considered not ok), I liked, and I wonder why I like it.
I didn't find the answer, why I like music that I like, I only discover gamakas techniques, or quarter like tones (not really exactly quarter tones!!!!, so is not like western microtonal music!), but why we like the music (sounds) that why like? We may never know.
PS: She has another video with 10 gamakas, all explained. (Gamakas in Light Music | VoxGuru ft. Pratibha Sarathy). I can't put another link here.
Double note ma ma is nasal.
If you can sing the first note, you can repeat it also. It's in the timing rather than force. Never mind the throat. Control it with breath from the lungs. It is more similar to "Let's start" in "Let's start at the very beginning" (Sound of Music do-re-mi) and how the emphasis for "start" sounds stronger than "Let's" though it is the same note.
One difference in Indian singing is that your sound is more placed inside your mouth and throat, than like in western music ur using more your Brest.... Which might solve the problem you're having with singing Janta swaras.
Why you stopped reacting to indian music.....i returned time to time but nothing.....i really enjoyed your takes on indian music....hope you react in the future or atleast give the reason ....