Daiwa Magseal: What is it and how does it work? Daiwa Saltiga 4000h
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- Опубліковано 22 жов 2017
- Daiwa Magseal: Proving just how easy it is to service without disturbing it. Plus how to replace if needed.
This video only shows the pinion / ar seal and not the bearings.
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This reel always pulls at me when I'm looking at gear. Love spinning!
Thank you for the video. I was wondering how it all worked.
Very informative! Great video!
Thanks for the most informative video. I was wondering how these worked & how easy or difficult they would be to service. Now I know, Probably get one. Regards Stephen
I have the same reel and this is a great informative video.
Thanks Xay!!! That thing is a tank! 5k on the way as I type!!
Tackle Advisors you planning to get the 2017 saltiga bj or another 2015 saltiga?
Gonna go with the 15 in a 5k size for the canal
THe BJ is sweet. Can't wait until daiwa incorporates all their reel to that monocoque design style......which they will be....Remember you heard that here first ;)
Thank you for all of this
Very useful vid, thank you !!!
Hey there, always find the vidoes informative. How often do you need to add the magseal fluid to the main seal you were showing us? Can you add fluid or do you recommend a complete breakdown and starting fresh? All my fishing is freshwater smallmouth fishing, so most of my water containment comes from rainwater. Is there a brand of oil you recommend? Thanks for your time and look forward to future videos.
Living in Japan, I have a couple of small Stellas a bit long in the tooth ... maybe 15 - 20 years old, and though still with tight tolerances, they are not sounding as nearly smooth as when new, and Shimano doesn't service anything over 5 years old. Here it is 2020, and I am looking for a 1000 series trout, panfish, light dock fishing reel .. and the Daiwa Caldia seems to be 'the one'. Maybe a third of the price of the stellas when I bought them, but the technology just keeps improving by leaps and bounds. Two caveats are that the spare Daiwa spools are more expensive, and Daiwa seems to have that same 5 year plan. I wish these two innovating companies made something that could be serviced and bearings replaced for life.
Wait... Shimano won't service a 5 year old Stella? Wtf? I've sent out 10 year old Stellas here in the US and they serviced and didn't charge for parts
First time magnetic sealed reel challenge , pls some service tutorial for shimano stella 6000 sw. Worth subs.
@Tackle Advisors Thanks for clearing the mystery on the Magseal service! How are your Magseal Salt water reels holding up after servicing them with this ferrofluid? Any recommendations on where to get it as well as the oil specifications? -Thank you!
Thanks man
Hello Happy New year 🎉
Was wondering if you could give me a clue on where to find Daiwa's ferrofluid or something equivalent to it.
Thank you and keep up the awesome work
Your Videos are top notch, I enjoy every one of them
Good job
do you know if the New Satiga Bay Jigging is as "submergable" as the Saltiga 4000H? I am debating which one to get
Hello my friend where can find a anti reverse clutch for my catalina?.used same clutch as saltiga
What is a good rod for a daiwa bg magsealed reel 2500? I just bought one for 150.00 from Croatia. Since they don't sell it in America. Idky
@tackle Advisors hello does the mag sealed oil dry out after 2 years if you don't use the reel? THX!
I see a bunch of references to the magnetic oil.... where can you obtain the official Diawa oil?
What Ferro fluid do you recommend from Ferro tech. my problem is all the stuff I see on eBay is only made to last a month or a couple because they are mainly made for science projects. And when I looked at Ferro tech's website there prices seemed like it would just be cheaper to send to daiwa.
james bay fishing Ferrotec APG L11. Go to parts express
Hello my friend . I don't know if it is a stupid question , but can i use Castrol magnatec 10w40 car engine oil ?
Is it the same thing or not ?
Teknologi magseal daiwa saltiga is the best
I hate magseal ..old daiwas are te best..
it was same my Magsealed ? (Daiwa Bg rr LT5000D-C-ARK & daiwa Saltist)
I wanted to know if I can buy magsead oil to repair my reel? And do you sell this oil to repairmen?
Will magoil stop sand or fine sand suspended in water from entering the reel? I'd hate to spend a grand + on a Saltiga, Expedition, or Dog Fight only to ruin it wet suiting. Does self service void the manufacturer's warranty?
Jonathan Woodman Probably late but these are not waterproof reels,You shouldn’t dip them in saltwater just because they can take a wave. As for sand etc. It does a good job keeping the internals clean but you should still regrease and oil it externally.
It is recommended to service once every 2-3 years to change worn out bearings,mag seal, internal re-oiling etc.
How did you get the spool support pin out? I have one on my steez 17 but for the life of me can not figure it out...
Boca Bearings make a plier specifically for the purpose of removing spool support pins. It works for bait casting reels too.
Looks easy enough. I have 2 bg 2500 magseal reels coming in. its not like the system is closed/sealed... daiwa has direct instruction to send it to them to service. i should start charging ppl to service their reels at half the cost of manufacturers... i'd make a killing.
Nice system to keep water from creeping into the bearing and into the body. However, what keeps water from creeping past the main reciprocating shaft? That shaft is always pumping up & down and fully exposed to the elements, how does water keep from seeping past it?
Yep I have the same concern, the water will go down the shaft for sure.
There is a rubber lipped seal under the rotor's retaining nut. Daiwa is 1000% incorrect in their marketing of every single mag sealed spinning reel. There they offer zero reels with a mag sealed main shaft. Though they do offer traditional seals there. Which prove effective
whoops...meant at the rotors retaining nut
Tackle Advisors
Ok, so the seal at the main shaft is similar to what Van Staal uses.
What is so G-D expensive about using quad seals at every entry point like the Van Staals? Part of the reason why long-cast reels like (to mention another brand) the Shimano Ultegra haven’t really taken off in the New England surf zone is because they’re not sealed and do NOT like getting wet. Imagine a fully sealed Shimano Ultegra 5500 or 14000? They would sell out instantly.
@@Onewayto2024 The main shaft seal is a light rubber single lipped seal....not in the same league as vs's quad seal....but effective since the rest of the reel is water tight. There is an ultregra that is fully sealed (or at least sealed at all points but a bit wimpy at the ar clutch...it's called the Spinfisher VI lc.....Right now it's the most rugged long cast reel.....Brass main gear, Rock solid. Slow oscillation. The tsunami shield is a fully sealed reel. OR whatever the OEM overseas is. Kat king i believe and balzer? Very capable reel at a 100$
Kalau oil magseal hilang apakah reelnya jadi seret, magnetnya nempel ke besi ?
What brand did you use as for he mag seal oil
I have a Daiwa Caldia CS LT wich had the mageseal ferrofluid, but when I had to service it since a friend of mine dorped it in the mud, I simply removed the ferrofluid and didn't concerned to order some more and apply new ferrofluid to it, because I just simply don't care about it, and I don't think it is that important for me who will use this reel mainly in freswhater and I make the services everytime I feel the need...
Not that dealing with it is difficult neither problematic, I just don't care if it is magsealed or no
Hi, can you please make a video tutorial on how to align the cluth sleeve and the plate?
Best way is to use a thin plastic rod (like a cheap paintbrush). Put two screws in.. Slightly tighten them... And stick the paint brush in the vacant screw hole... Use it like a joystick... Pop the rotor on and finger tighten the retaining nut and check for clearance... Repeat until clean rotation.... That's how I do it.. I've seen first hand 4 brand new reels that weren't aligned properly... Just fixed a 8k saltist for a dealer
@@TackleAdvisors It worked! Thank you so much!
Ok, but there is one problem: where I can buy the magnetic oil?
Ebay Ferro fluid
You can only get that oil in Iraq
Ferrotec Magnetic Ferrofluid -2oz - amazon $21 for 2 oz.
Like the ferro responses!
search for it. they had some on amazon
Is it therefore possible to convert a standard non magsealed reel into a "magsealed" one just by putting ferrofluid in all the essential parts(ball bearings etc.)?
roboecto I wish someone in the know would answer this!
You'll need a magnet in the reel for it to work. And probably specific thickness channels for the ferrofluid to seal properly.
Where can i purchase the Magseal oils from
Help with caldia
hey sir.. very nice video.. where i can buy a ferrofluid.. thanks
Hey man, love your video. Was wondering can you still grease ur main shaft with magsealed reels?
The main shaft yes. Very lightly as you don't want to slow it down but you don't want it dry and rubbing on the seal. Keep in mind on every single mag sealed spinner. Daiwa mis labels them as a mag sealed main shaft.
Tackle Advisors cheers mate. That helped a lot! Also, i accidently used daiwa oil on my 16 certate line roller ball bearing which i believe is also magsealed, one drop in between the slit between the line roller and the rotor. So do i have to reseal the bearings? Also, from my understanding, the ferro fluid doesn't lubricate the bering itself, so what do you use to lubricate the bearing? I know it's a lot of questions, cheers in advance.
Sylvester Zhang I did the same exact thing and I’m curious to know the answer. I put one drop there and later found out that’s a no no. Curious what to do next
Hell, I used to have and use a quill pen.
great and simple job indeed....but where did you get that ferrofluid ?
I went direct to the mfr. Ferrotec. ALl the science project type stuff that are bottled and sold by others on amazon all come from ferrotec. I explained what i wanted to use it for and they sent me two types. One is very expensive the other is cheap and used in speaker crafting.
huhh...thanks for the fast answer...in last few minutes i found some interesting videos of how to make ferrofluid yourself using a printer toner /which already contains a signifficant amount of iron nano particules / and a regular oil....here is one of those videos.. i will definitely try myself, the easiest way ..
ua-cam.com/video/vsQh1AT6qUE/v-deo.html
BRGDS
Tackle Advisors i can get my hands on some ferrofluid used on speakers. Will it work just as well?
It'll funtion but I don't know if it will handle the moisture. I was sent some of that stuff as well in additiona to the fancy stuff. This is the stuff that Ferrotec recommended and I've been using with good results. catolog number VSG203a
Tackle Advisors how much did it cost...?
What’s the best sub $100 heavy casting rod you could recommend?
Hi Fern, DId i answer you in another video comment? Can't remember :)For fw bass fishing? Best deal going in my opinion is the Daiwa fuego for bass. For saltwater the Teremar Northeast sticks are awesome! I like them better than the loomis pro blue and st croixs. For the surf....No clue. Haven't seen many
Tackle Advisors You did reply on another video, appreciate you taking the time to get back to me again!
Gotcha thought so :) No problem!!
Tackle Advisors Got another one for you. I see you have Tactical Anglers clips on your amazon list, do you have any experience with Mustad Fastach clips and would you recommend one over the other?
I've used several of these types of slide on fasteners, the first being teh corkscrew swivels that have been used in heavy saltwater rigs for so long.
I've found that all of them have the same limitations. The first is that not all lures can be maneuvered to get on there properly depending on the space available in the clip's bends vs the space needed around the attachment point of the lure. Secondly, you will run into many lures that will go on the clip but end up jamming against the mechanism which changes or restricts its ability to move freely.
How does Magseal compare in terms of performance against the Shimano seal types?
Mag-seal trumps everything but x shield. X shield in Gosa Spheros twin power SW and Stella SW is one step below van Staal and actually better than the new slammer 3
Do you mean stella is much more better than saltiga in waterproof ability?
Not at all....the number on the size of the reel isn't really an accurate representation to size. Or capacity (it's pretty annoying...i wish there was a standard. 6k saltiga is a tuna sized reel...while 6k saragosa is a medium striper bluefish reel.
There are different companies, it is a common thing. Weight is a good way to judge, it is a same size about +-50g between. Saltiga 8000H is equal to Stella 20000PG, 5500H is equal to 14000XG.
1. Magseal>2.Van Staal>3.Stella>4.Slammer3
Hi..
What type of ferro fluid is that?.
No longer available ferrotec
what type of Ferro fluid you are using?
The type that is no longer in their catolog any longer. I don't even know what the replacement is. Sorry man. It's 30$ per ML though. :/
Tackle Advisors I talked to Ferro Tech and they will send me a sample of APG E26. It is pricy
How long have U been using that reel
Since they launched
Great video, i just subscribed!!!
I was looking for the ferrofluid stuff you used and i can't find it on Ferrotec website. How can i find it?
go to Parts Express. look for Ferrotec APG L11 speaker fluid
The lack of camera focus at critical moments is so frustrating!
that phantom was brought by alan
Hey Scoob. I hope you're well. I accidentally put oil on the line roller bearing of my Certate LT. What will this do to the magseal? I have received APG E26 from Ferrotec and I am thinking about cleaning off the bearing and putting the ferrofluid on there. Thoughts on all of this?
It may degrade it... The certate line roller bearing is easy to service... The magnets come off easily.. Just remember the order
I did the same thing and curious as to if I need to service it now
I haven’t touched it and it has worked fine over the past few weeks.
Charles C I put lube not oil on mine but can’t tell anything is wrong. But then again I don’t know what I’m looking for
is the assembly the same for a saltiga? i've always considered one for popping..but there are no daiwa dealers in my country and servicing has been a concern. also what brand of fluid is that? does it last long? thanks in advance...great videos. subbd!!
wickedEP Racing ...that is a saltiga!!
What about the saltist
Saltist is even more simple
hi is it normal for ferro fluid to leak out?
Centrifugal force will push some outward but that's normal.
Tackle Advisors very helpful.thanks!
Nice video but where to buy mag sealed oil?
Nowhere now other than magic kit type stuff which will work fine (tested some) but I can't tell how long it'll last to recommend it
Genuine question. Unlike you I'm not a DIY expert. I have a couple of European Daiwa mag sealed reels now discontinued (Cast izm 25 QDA).
I think it's just the main body that is sealed. If I ignore the Magseal will it damage the reel. I mean I only use it in freshwater so I'm not too worried about ingress.
Or will it damage the reel in general if I ignore the magseal. Hear no evil. See no evil. 😂
It doesn''t work. I own three Saltist MQ6000 reels two of them the line rollers are froze up. I took them apart and they are seized on the bail. Had to order two whole bail assemblies at $150 from Daiwa, I'm not happy. Since Stainless Steel is not magnetic not sure how the mag grease sticks to the bearing unless the bearing are not SS.
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Can you use diy ferrofluid from micr toner and oil?
Sure
@@TackleAdvisors thanks. Will try it
Is it okay if you dont have magnetic oil sir?
If you don't have it you can't replenish it... Therefore you must be cautious removing the plate and clutch sleeve
Where can I buy oil?
Fake mag seal oil aka ferro fluid sold on Internet! Use of fake mag seal oil will ruin your reel beyond repair!!! : (. 😡
notice how he doesn't say where to get the fluid...
I've mentioned it in a few different videos. I Use ferrotec's product((which is the supplier to pretty much every ferrofluid product found on the web...just look at the label. I don't like mentioning it anymore because people that reach out to them don't receive the same courtesy as they afforded me. about 2 years ago I emailed them a few questions...and we went through a series of further q&a's until they found the best item out of their catolog. And they sent me 2cc's.
But daiwa announced they will be making it available. It may already be. So contact them. If you want to contact ferrotec...I think the version i'm using is vsg203a. But email them saying you need a rotational seal and see what they say.
oh thats not as hard as i thought it would be.
I wouldn’t trust any mag seal oil not supplied by the company that sells ferro fluid to Daiwa! Who are they? Does Daiwa manufacture their own mag seal oil? Daiwa is very greedy $$$ no doubt! : ( 😡