He was very strong, a peak human since he shown to be "off the charts" by the US government And since super soldier serum amplifies whats there, inside and out, I'm surprised he wasn't ridiculously more powerful than bucky and sam or even the flagsmashers after he took it
@@harbour2118 Physically? He's stronger than the average super soldier. He easily outperforms against a flag smasher one on one while fresh off the serum and more or less was manhandling one while enraged. It took both Sam (a seasoned avenger) and Bucky (a veteran super soldier) to take him down while he was in crisis mode. It's pretty clear that he is quite strong for a super soldier.
@@PascualMorales-py6gdhe didn't have his serum there and that's exactly why he took it...wakandan guards that can take on fully armoured killmonger who is also bloodthirsty and enhanced loo
@@gustavomelo5341That shouldn't matter. That doesn't stop his ability to fight, winter soldier , bucky , fought Iron Man, black panther, casting America , etc , not to mention his ability as a spy , martial artist , weapons specialist, and his training in wankanda. Morals or not, he shoukd be the best sdier on the field.
The flagsmashers were lucky didn't have to face the Winter Soldier, they wouldn't stand a chance if they had to. Gonna be so interesting how MCU is going to power up Bucky in future because this version of him is just too nerfed up to be a part of something big.
@@spiderxparker_ Not even close, Winter Solider is a kill anybody that gets in his way soldier. He bodied the other super solider in civil war and his strength is double of bucky.He threw Cap shield at him and caused Steve to slide back at least 6 ft before stopping his shield in place. Winter solider feels no pain - Only mission report. The man is a trained assassin, every now and then he tries to come out. Catching the flag smasher blade and throwing it inches from their head. Later on in the show the Flag smashers throws a steel iron to kill Bucky. ( Winter Solider catches it) Watch the show and look how bucky fights. Winter Solider fights with no restraint. I argue only reason he was beaten by Cap, was because Cap reached Bucky.
@@spider-man500 he never outclassed captain america lmao,captain America was severely holding back against Bucky because that was his best friend and knew he was brainwashed and still beat his ass and choked slammed him and broke his arm and put him in a headlock and choked him out
The serum adds more to what is already there.. physically and mentally. John Walker has an ego..cant accept failure, and is an angry man when his ego is hurt...
This is true, but the moniker and mantle of Captain America didn’t exist up until Steve Rogers. What I mean is, there were shoes to fill after they were vacated. So I don’t think it’s fair to judge John Walker’s character off of wanting to be Captain America necessarily. I mean who wouldn’t want to be. In the military. I’m 13 years army and people compete over smaller things.
@@Epyk4P Oh, I don't judge him for it. He was forced into an impossible situation and frankly, the constant rejection and ridicule of Captain America's two best friends probably didn't help his mentality about the whole thing.
@@PoppaChubby_ If y'all never actually picked up and read a hokey *"Bronze🥉Age Comic Book,"* then y'all 3 normies wouldn't know what im talking about.
Every one is saying Bucky is fighting bad because he is holding back and isn't the WS anymore but he was just doing fine in civil war, he was nerfed to focus more on the other characters which isn't great.
Yaknow looking back at this scene, John Walker actually did really well with the shield and held his own against semi super soldiers. Makes the Dora Milage even more impressive with how they handled him later on.
@@dksoulstice6040 anytime Bucky is not in killer mode, he always loses easily to super powered individuals. Bucky was completely outclassed by Iron Man, Black Panther and Spider-Man, opponents Cap either held off or beat.
@@MrKingYuji None of that means Bucky is unskilled. A skilled, strong fighter being beaten by a more skilled or stronger fighter doesn't make you unskilled.
How was it that John Walker perfected the fact of catching the shield so easily and even before the serum yet it took so many tries for Sam to even catch the shield perfectly???
Nah bruh he's gonna be in The Thunderbolts. Also its dope because he dosen't have to live up to Cap's Legacy anymore he can live up to his own as US Agent.
i love how bucky says “those were super soldiers sam” he knows theyre a team and going to face it together, but he still needs to say it in a way thats dismissive of sams own intelligence
A lot of people saying they nerfed Bucky and while he’s not as good as he used to be when he was the winter solider, it’s not that I think he’s gotten weaker I just think he’s holding back for fear of becoming like the Winter solider again. I saw someone else in this comment section mentions how there were a few scenes where he was just inches away from actually killing someone. That’s just my personal observation though
One thing I hate about this is Bucky is a highly trained super soldier and immediately gets leveled by a bunch of untrained kids who have the super soldier serum sure there strength is the same but there should be no competition due to his training.
Why doesn’t the shield “cut?” Especially at the way it’s being thrown and angle it makes contact on the person. Seems like it actually struck someone in the neck??????
Some people were hating how Steve would never use a gun there, but why not use it if u have clear shot of not killing! Ur style can't be more important than the mission😂
At first I ain't like John Walker cuz I was butthurt abt how Endgame ended and that there'd be no more Captain America I was sayin stuff like "John would never replace Cap" but now I lowk fw John bro was kinda ruthless I wish he'd gotten his own character tho and that bro ain't needa go around tellin ppl he's Cap
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It’s massive feat for John to fight them without super serum like that and hold his ground , he was never weak
He was very strong, a peak human since he shown to be "off the charts" by the US government
And since super soldier serum amplifies whats there, inside and out, I'm surprised he wasn't ridiculously more powerful than bucky and sam or even the flagsmashers after he took it
@@harbour2118 Physically? He's stronger than the average super soldier. He easily outperforms against a flag smasher one on one while fresh off the serum and more or less was manhandling one while enraged. It took both Sam (a seasoned avenger) and Bucky (a veteran super soldier) to take him down while he was in crisis mode. It's pretty clear that he is quite strong for a super soldier.
@@machdude3366Lol they were trying to reason with him we all know Bucky washes his ass with fake caps face
but bro got clapped by a single wakandan guard that wasnt even a super soldier
@@PascualMorales-py6gdhe didn't have his serum there and that's exactly why he took it...wakandan guards that can take on fully armoured killmonger who is also bloodthirsty and enhanced loo
Bucky in this show is the perfect example of "when you unlock the boss as a playable character"
Ага) и это раздражает, хотя сериал все же скорее хороший чем плохой и как же кэпа не хватает
When you unlock a douchebag! He's such a dick to Walker and Lamar.
Lmao!!!
Because he now has a sense of morality, Winter Soldier was practically a killer robot
@@gustavomelo5341That shouldn't matter. That doesn't stop his ability to fight, winter soldier , bucky , fought Iron Man, black panther, casting America , etc , not to mention his ability as a spy , martial artist , weapons specialist, and his training in wankanda. Morals or not, he shoukd be the best sdier on the field.
John walker probably has one of the best actors in the show
He killed it.
The dude received death threats in real life so, yeah.
@@lhanzejaredcarpio6037 Why?
@@lhanzejaredcarpio6037 for what
@@ek7xd sucessfully to become an anoyying captain america
Bucky is such a waste now, if he were winter soldier, everyone would be finished within 1 minute
Exactly. They had a neuter him to give Sam something to do.
Or maybe if you watched the show, he holds back.
@@TonyPrince-gd3vo Against murderous terrorists. You're just defending bad writing.
this has always been teh case when he get out of his brain wash state he fights super bad, when he is brain washed he is almost unstopable
Because he now has a sense of morality, Winter Soldier was practically a killer robot
That small bit at 2:22 is wholesome, the way those two wave at each other.
The flagsmashers were lucky didn't have to face the Winter Soldier, they wouldn't stand a chance if they had to. Gonna be so interesting how MCU is going to power up Bucky in future because this version of him is just too nerfed up to be a part of something big.
Bucky and winter solider are the same lol stop overestimating him it’s annoying
@@spiderxparker_ Not even close, Winter Solider is a kill anybody that gets in his way soldier. He bodied the other super solider in civil war and his strength is double of bucky.He threw Cap shield at him and caused Steve to slide back at least 6 ft before stopping his shield in place. Winter solider feels no pain - Only mission report. The man is a trained assassin, every now and then he tries to come out. Catching the flag smasher blade and throwing it inches from their head. Later on in the show the Flag smashers throws a steel iron to kill Bucky. ( Winter Solider catches it) Watch the show and look how bucky fights. Winter Solider fights with no restraint. I argue only reason he was beaten by Cap, was because Cap reached Bucky.
@spiderxparker_ Yeah sure, the guy who rivaled and even outclassed Captain America at times is not good
Do you hear yourself?
@@spiderxparker_it's called plot convenience
They turn the characters into buffoons to fit their story
@@spider-man500 he never outclassed captain america lmao,captain America was severely holding back against Bucky because that was his best friend and knew he was brainwashed and still beat his ass and choked slammed him and broke his arm and put him in a headlock and choked him out
John Walker was the best part of the show
It was so bad how the fans treated the character and his actor
Either him Isaiah or zemo were the best parts of the show
@@joscar062 yeah overall the show is just criminally underrated
@@Arcvantist_Editsno it wasn’t
@@ecurb711 the show being underrated or how they treated the actor?
I really liked John Walker in this scene. He was not a super soldier but gave tough fight to them. Bucky was totally waste
I think the main issue with John Walker is this:
He wanted to be Captain America.
Steve Rogers wanted to be a good man.
The serum adds more to what is already there.. physically and mentally. John Walker has an ego..cant accept failure, and is an angry man when his ego is hurt...
@Wolfgame30 he also had ptsd already and had the same ego problems as Sam and bucky
Que porra é esse Jhon?
This is true, but the moniker and mantle of Captain America didn’t exist up until Steve Rogers. What I mean is, there were shoes to fill after they were vacated. So I don’t think it’s fair to judge John Walker’s character off of wanting to be Captain America necessarily. I mean who wouldn’t want to be. In the military. I’m 13 years army and people compete over smaller things.
@@Epyk4P Oh, I don't judge him for it. He was forced into an impossible situation and frankly, the constant rejection and ridicule of Captain America's two best friends probably didn't help his mentality about the whole thing.
John walker was not a super solider at tha time but he throws shield like its nothing...one of my favorite character
I feel bad for walker, he genuinely wanted to be a hero but it seems like black falcon doesn't like competition
If it wasn't Disney, the white man would've been a good guy. I'm js
It is just " Falcon"... Not black falcon. You know like Captain America, instead of White Captain America. 😂
Black falcon is from the Key and Peele skit 😂😂
@@mtrichie111theres dozens of white good guys. Your obsession with race skews reality.
Bucky should be the next cap
In reality, the Flag-smashers would ANNIHILATE Sam, his wings and go-go pack are cool but dude, c'mon son!!!....
They need to give sam his powers of super strength.
Most comic accurate realistic scene I've personally ever seen in a live action comic series, energy in all.
What??😂
@@alexanderapollo2177ikr😂😂😂
Wtf
@@PoppaChubby_ If y'all never actually picked up and read a hokey *"Bronze🥉Age Comic Book,"* then y'all 3 normies wouldn't know what im talking about.
0:18 oh i hate her so much...
@@sultaa86 what i hate the most is hearing Sam spitting every single excuse for justifying her terr0r1sm
Same
John Walker was this show.
Every one is saying Bucky is fighting bad because he is holding back and isn't the WS anymore but he was just doing fine in civil war, he was nerfed to focus more on the other characters which isn't great.
Yaknow looking back at this scene, John Walker actually did really well with the shield and held his own against semi super soldiers. Makes the Dora Milage even more impressive with how they handled him later on.
The power of woke writing
@@mind-blowing_tumbleweed what? what does woke mean?
They nerf the shit out of Bucky in this show. "what happen? Did your balls drop off?"
Perhaps freckles are Bucky's Kryptonite.
They nerfed Bucky so hard in this show 😭
They did kind of take a lot of focus off him considering he's the other title character.
@@JECeditz exactly what I thought...made him crazy soft
@@JECeditz when you unlock the final boss
I want a Falcon & Winter Soldier season 2 now!!
How are the flags smasher so strong
Even the original supersolders get their ass kicked 😂
@@VinhNguyen-lj3jf they are fighting three normal humans and one unskilled superhuman soldier with a metal arm. Of course they appear strong.
@@MrKingYujihow is Bucky unskilled lol
@@MrKingYuji What drugs are you taking to think Bucky was unskilled? He was literally an elite soldier BEFORE Hydra made him a super soldier.
@@dksoulstice6040 anytime Bucky is not in killer mode, he always loses easily to super powered individuals. Bucky was completely outclassed by Iron Man, Black Panther and Spider-Man, opponents Cap either held off or beat.
@@MrKingYuji None of that means Bucky is unskilled. A skilled, strong fighter being beaten by a more skilled or stronger fighter doesn't make you unskilled.
Imagine if they actually helped each other.
Nice save at 2:11
Perfect with no background music
Nobody looks good in the captain America suit after Chris evans
Well yeah. They purposefully made Walker's suit look off so we'd be subconsciously against him.
Freckles and The Flagsmashers were a big nothing burger.
Please bring back the real Winter Soilder relentless and ruthless this Bucky is watered down
He’s Kurt Russel’s boy, I like him already!
As soon as they shaved his head i knew Bucky was nerfed
He is not Winter Soldier, he is just Bucky. If he was Winter Soldier he'd kick everyone's ass.
How was it that John Walker perfected the fact of catching the shield so easily and even before the serum yet it took so many tries for Sam to even catch the shield perfectly???
he had already practised before you see him in his interview most likely
1:02 best pose
John Walker's a straight G in this show. Shame about how his arc ended tho 😵
How do you get the dialogue and SFX so cleanly?
You know it's a secret
Nah bruh he's gonna be in The Thunderbolts. Also its dope because he dosen't have to live up to Cap's Legacy anymore he can live up to his own as US Agent.
I can’t believe this is the same Bucky who stomped everyone back in Civil War 😂
Brainwashed Bucky would have snapped Carrot top's neck in a under a minute.
daam fan movies getting better, had to look closely to make sure this time
I love You Jhon walker ❤
Steve belike what you kids are doing 😂
cap can finish them by himself
John did awesome throwing the shield under his partner
Damn bucky character turned into a different person.
He is not the winter soldier anymore genius
i love how bucky says “those were super soldiers sam” he knows theyre a team and going to face it together, but he still needs to say it in a way thats dismissive of sams own intelligence
Awesome video! You could do the fight that happened on the last episode of Secret Invasion
A great show
John Walker is a badass anti hero.
Battlestar is literally just a damsel in distress until he just grtd murdered
1:36 John Walker secret move:
Mcu greatness
even from the thumbnail clip it looked "awesome"
Bucky should've been kickingntheir asses as the more experienced super soldier.
If you could turn McDonalds into story telling, you'd get modern marvel
These people were lucky Steve wasn't there
lemar hoskins kinda fire tho, like he just went face to face with 2 super soldiers when he not well trained like john and has absolutely no ability
A lot of people saying they nerfed Bucky and while he’s not as good as he used to be when he was the winter solider, it’s not that I think he’s gotten weaker I just think he’s holding back for fear of becoming like the Winter solider again. I saw someone else in this comment section mentions how there were a few scenes where he was just inches away from actually killing someone. That’s just my personal observation though
Si buck hubiera sido controlado otra vez por el.libro ufff esto terminaría en 2 episodios jajja
One thing I hate about this is Bucky is a highly trained super soldier and immediately gets leveled by a bunch of untrained kids who have the super soldier serum sure there strength is the same but there should be no competition due to his training.
Why is the audio unfinished? This whole scene looks unfinished.
Why doesn’t the shield “cut?” Especially at the way it’s being thrown and angle it makes contact on the person. Seems like it actually struck someone in the neck??????
"You gotta stop calling them terrorists"
Is that Layne Staley wearing a captain america outfit?
Some people were hating how Steve would never use a gun there, but why not use it if u have clear shot of not killing! Ur style can't be more important than the mission😂
John walker osm 👌👌💪💪
I just noticed John walker was that navy cheif
estubo buenaz no sabia que habia esta serie
After first episode the entire world hated John... But in the end he became the best part
I think it was stupid when they made Bucky look weak, but when it came to the other films, he was very strong
Getting hit in the head with that shield has gotta hurt like a mofo no matter how tough you are.
Insane plot armor
This looks like a fast and furious fight scene lol
When I see this all I think of now is watching Thor or Iron Man or Hulk. Take care of these guys would just be nothing lol.
Bro was just tryna help 😔
This fight gave me motion sickness. What's with all the cuts?
john no era mal tipo, la sociedad lo convirtio en un anti heroe
It makes my eyes hurt how the background is moving
You how do you remove background music?
GOOD NIGHT
What if bucky is on winter soldier mode during the fight with flag smasher💀
1:28 Bucky I’m keeping this
John walker=The old man from UP
Was there always music in this scene?
Tiene cara de abuelito ese capitan
So…. Is nobody gonna talk about the Nissan Altima Dr Strange summoned to save John here…? 2:40
Jhon walker throw the Shield better than sam
Why on God's green earth, would you mute the music??...WHY???...What's wrong with you people??
What is marvel doing? Lol
What’s with the awkward audio?
2:24 John Walker 😃
Конопатая прилетела из вселенной ЗВ и снова нападает на караваны😂
Why the audio sound terrible
How the fuck Carli can fight them. She's a super soldier w/o fighting experience. Plot armor I guess
This show started off really strong, but by the end it might as well have been called
“Black Agenda and the Black Agenda Soldier.”
I hope marvel would came back chris evans as steve rogers
At first I ain't like John Walker cuz I was butthurt abt how Endgame ended and that there'd be no more Captain America I was sayin stuff like "John would never replace Cap" but now I lowk fw John bro was kinda ruthless I wish he'd gotten his own character tho and that bro ain't needa go around tellin ppl he's Cap
almost avengers
falcon
winter soldier
U.s Agent
Battle star
Just wondering why sebatian is so nerfed... so different lol
he's trying to recover from all the brainwashing and habitual murdering so he has to nerf himself.
What method do you use to extract the bgm?
Good question
Look what marvel did to bucky.
wish to see real cap here
Evil smile.
Steve would’ve beaten all of them with no problem