Bucky and Steve grew up together, were best friends since childhood, and were said to be inseparable. Bucky is the only one who could ever call Steve his brother and saw him as a little brother. He even said the Shield was closest thing he had to family he had left. It would have hurt Bucky and angered him to see John try to claim that.
This serie showed that everyone has a bad side: Walker, Karli, but most importantly Sam and Bucky, too. Everyone has flaws and as Zemo said, it's important to keep that in mind, otherwise we make them icons, and from that, bad things happen.
They had to evolve the 2 main characters, introduce at least 2 more. Make a stand alone story that fits into the MCU plus the Contessa and set up for the Thunderbolts film. What would you have done?
@@ShadowSonic2 The character conflict of being petty and hostile to a guy constantly trying to reach out to and work with him to stop a terrorist group?
@@drowningmerman4256 i mean, it does make sense why they’d act like that to john tho. he’s trying to be captain america more than he is trying to live up to his legacy and the way he interacts with sam and bucky shows an extension of that. i’d be pretty hostile if someone started trying to be a loved one i’d lost and tried to make a connection based on, especially following events i didn’t want to happen. (for sam, it was anyone taking up the shield since he put it in the museum. for bucky, it was the shield being anywhere that wasn’t with sam since steve wanted sam to have it)
but he really isn't...he chose to save people of his own accord with no friend to break him out of his trauma, even though those people fcked him over and over again, John doesn't even do mindless killing...
They are being canonically accurate from the comics. There have been multiple captain America’s. All of which should have their story told as they are all great characters. Get over it.
@@peeweemaroske8619 It doesn’t cause confusion lol if it does you have low brain power. And that’s kinda the point. Everyone has a favorite. It’s the same idea of Batman vs Superman. Everyone gets a character they like.
Someone clearly never read the comics. Captain America will always be replaced. Steve Rogers is a name, captain America is a mantle and it’s passed down. Bucky will probably be next. Steve Rogers is dead, move on.
The big difference with iron man is that there wasn’t many iron man’s ones that did succeed him went under different names as far as I can remember Iron Man IS Tony Stark as much as Tony Stark IS Iron Man. The total Captain America is a symbol and a title rather than A identity. Steve Rogers never flaunted the titles Captain America he rarely if ever called himself that in the films unlike Iron Man who went on national tv and told the world who He was. Roger didn’t and wouldn’t want this to be specific to him as he sees it a symbol to carry America forward and to continue to be a symbol.
The only man who travelled through time with him (in solid ice at that), the only man that could’ve saved him was his own childhood friend. Now someone else who’s entire persona was as an extension of the government has the gall to call a man he never knew like his own “Brother”. Yeah, I can’t really say I blame Bucky for being so pissed off at Steve’s replacement
Pissed at Walker for daring to tread in Steve’s shoes when he doesn’t have the first clue about what it means to be Captain America Pissed at Sam for giving up the shield because he thought he wasn’t worthy of the title Damn i feel bad for Barnes…
Also Bucky is forgotten by a government that was content to prop him and Steve up as symbols, but then discard him for returning broken and traumatized. Which is a commentary on how veterans are treated and forgotten about by the world. It's hard to watch (I've had family that have served) but it is realistic. And heartbreaking.
@@CrasherX2000 What are you even talking about? Not only is walker a soldier, meaning yes, steve Was his brother, but he's never shown as being willy nilly nor selfish or self-obsessed. He says himself "I'm not steve rodgers". Of Bucky cared about the mantle so much, why didn't HE get the shield? Oh yeah, because even though he's whining about everything he's too childish to do anything about it other than complain.
@@courtneym75 Walker also threw it at Bucky and Bucky got bodied by it. Either the showrunners never saw the Steve vs Bucky fight or Walker is straight up stronger than Steve.
@@controversialopinion5722 About Walker being stronger than Steve, I'm not quite sure. But Steve did take an outdated serum as a skinny man, while John took the latest edition when he's already a seasoned soldier
@@Derp-rz1nn That's why I said that Bucky could only lift it without knowing what it means to lift it. The hammer knows who a worthy soul is. But they have to not want to wield it for the wrong reasons. If Bucky knew, his guilt would prevent him from lifting it. If he didn't, I think he would be able to lift it.
They also turned Bucky and Sam into bitter jackasses that threw olive branches in John's face. Bucky and Sam are supposed to be the good guys in this series? Sam kept on letting the flag smashers go. They indirectly let Lamar get killed.
@@9751matt what Sam and Bucky did to John? They said they are not interested to work with John that's it Only mistake Sam and Bucky did in the series was working with John in episode 4
i think what gets to me is that John walker just calls him bucky straight up. its still a nickname, id be inclined to dislike someone who just starts adrssing my by nickname first thing.
The Smithsonian literally has a name plague that says Bucky Barnes, given Walker likely grew up with a lot of history stuff that also calls him Bucky, that’s the name he went with.
@@CaptainPikeachu it doesn't say bucky Barnes it has his full name on it and people he's close with can only call uim bucky as it was a nickname given to him by Steve and Steve was someone who had a good judge of character which is why Sam can call him bucky or buck its a nickname people shouldn't out right call him by the first time you see him.
Just a reminder that Bucky fought in WWII. Walker strutting around in his friend's costume acting like he's a big deal because he fought in some police actions and occupations is probably enough to get on Bucky's nerves. Walker: "I've been shot at! I've seen action." Barnes: "Bitch, I've been held prisoner by both Hydra and the KGB, and I've outlived both groups."
How many medals of honour did Barnes recieve. And as far as I know, neither he nor Sam have ever jumped on a live grenade. Walker has. By his own logic, Walker is more deserving of the title than either of them.
@@iainwhite8617 Yea like prior to receiving the shield, Walker went to all of those shits in real battlefield as a regular human without serum accompanied by normal comrades too. And people somehow trying to downplay his ptsd lmao.
@@Derp-rz1nnyou cannot be this braindead. Fighting in a war is one thing but being captured and brainwashed into being a fully fledged assassin against your will is another kind of psychological terror. Bucky overcame that.
@@the-ironclad One man's trauma does not erase another's. Walker had it, and neither Bucky, himself traumatized, nor Sam, somebody who routinely tried to counsel traumatized vets, tried to be understanding. Also remember that Bucky did not break out on his own. Steve helped him, and then had help from the people of Wakanda afterwards.
I’ve noticed a of people here are mad at Bucky for being a jerk to Walker for no reason, when I honestly think he was still grieving Steve. I’d be angry too if I was in Bucky’s position. Even after John admits he doesn’t want to replace Steve, I would still be mad, because he would be reminding me of Steve every time I saw him. (Also Walker claimed Steve was like his brother, even though that was untrue.)
He never claimed to have any actual relationship with Steve. He explicitly said he'd never met the guy. Him saying that Steve felt like a brother to him is him saying that he idolised the guy, that he grew up looking up to Steve as his hero, much like many people would see their big brother as a source of inspiration. It would be like if I said that it feels like I know Hugh Jackman because I've seen all his movies and interviews. I've never met the guy and realistically he's probably quite different in person. But it might feel to me like I know him. Frankly random people looking up to Steve as their older brother is exactly the kind of inspiration and hope that Captain America aimed to inspire.
Such a w3ak mentality. Folks who think like this are dangerously and there’s a lot who justify this dumb mentality . Just because a person reminds you of someone doesn’t justify hating them. Such a weak and sensitive mentality. This sign grieving or being strong. It’s weak and pathetic and emotionally very immature. People find any silly reason to justify evil or petty behavior.
Bucky's actions make sense given what he's been through. He's been screwed over by the government, had his title taken from him, has the worst court appointed therapist in the world (she would be fired irl for how she treats him), has no family, and now the closest thing he has to family - the Shield - has been given away to some guy for the government to use as a puppet for their own ends. Which is something Steve would have been against, given the Accords situation. Walker is also fake nice at first but treats Bucky like a subordinate to serve him (not the position) instead of as an equal. Bucky could see through that act and realized Walker was only about his own glory. That's why he's pissed off. It's completely understandable.
R.I.P Lamar Hoskins. I genuinely feel sorry for Lamar with all the unjustified hatred for him and everyone siding with the people who murdered him. He seemed like a decent guy but didn't stand a chance against super-soldiers or pyscho punk kids with a serum. Also he was telling the truth. Bucky and Sam were getting thier asses kicked.
I'd guess because Homelander is clearly written as a villain, where as Walker is written as how a human would act but the show frames him as a villain.
John walker tried so hard to be the next cap only to realize in the end hes meant to be his own super hero. There was no need to hate on walker. He was really trying . In reality no one will ever have steves heart not even sam or bucky. If steve met walker he would respect him unlike everyone else who had a stink eye for walker
I think this is true but the reason I dislike Walker is because with some things he really crossed the line. First of all the cold-blooded murder of a man who wasn’t even the one that killed his best friend? But also little things like acting all familiar with Sam and Bucky when they didn’t know each other (because that would piss me off too if someone did that to me irl). And some of the comments he made to Bucky were super out of line (“I’m not like you” “This is all really easy for you isn’t it?”). Like that man is dealing with extreme PTSD and self-loathing, and Walker really wasn’t helping. But yeah Sam and Bucky did act a bit too asshole-y to Walker even if I understand where they were coming from
@@fulcrum097 That man was a terrorist, a living weapon that would've gotten away, if it wasn't for John and he was the reason his best friend died, put you in that situation, you wouldn't do the same? The whole time Walker has been nothing but nice to the both of them only to be treated like trash. Honestly his overqualified to be captain america
Bucky: Bucky is for friends, Buck is only for Steve, James is also allowed for professional relationships/family members. But for you, John, I don't even like you, so it's Sergeant Barnes.
@@Derp-rz1nn Bucky's full name is James Buchanan ("Bucky") Barnes. He goes by his middle name and not his first name. Steve basically gave Bucky a nickname for his nickname when he calls him Buck.
@@BlueSkullX I mean John wsa probably in the armed forces longer than Bucky, but yeah-- having served in WW2 and fought HYDRA during the worst war in history is pretty much unmatchable.
@@galinabrack6057 Yeah, Bucky only lets people call him that who know him or who he likes. Walker should maybe address him as Barnes or Sgt Barnes since they are both military vets.
I mean Bucky, Sam, the Avengers and even the rotting corpses of the soldiers who fought alongside Steve in WW2 had every right to grimace when Walker had the audacity to say that Steve felt like a brother.
And that's because only Bucky has the right to refer to Steve as his brother. The two grew up together, fought together, and were inseparable before Hydra took Bucky. John waltzing in and claiming that title rightfully pissed off Bucky. Yes one could argue the Avenegers could use the title in reference to the fact that they were close and were a found family in the military sense. But in the true family sense, only Bucky has the right to use it. To him, Steve was and always will be his brother.
Okay but imagine your best friend who’s the closest thing you have to a brother leaves you and the guy who is basically meant to replace him goes and says “he feels like a brother.” After everything Steve and Bucky did for each other? Yeah, I would be pissed too.
Yeah, but saying that he felt that Steve was a brother to him didn’t feel wrong, didn’t say he was the only brother, just that he like A brother, cause he felt inspired by Steve, Bucky getting angry that someone got so inspired by Steve to the point that John considers Steve a brother just makes him seem like a toxic fanboy who can’t accept when other people look up to the same person he does, that’s like getting mad at someone for considering your friend a hero to them, that isn’t bad, that’s just being inspired by someone you’re attached to (Plus, John didn’t even want to be Captain America, until later in his career when he realized that him being Captain America can save more lives, so he accepts it, cause he feels like other people need him)
But he even says, I didn’t know him. They weren’t related, and they weren’t even really close friends like Steve and Bucky, so walker saying that was out of line
@@AmandaPrice-f8c Yeah. If Wilson and not Walker said that, I think Barnes at least would've been at peace with it given that Wilson also was Rogers' friend and was vouched for by Rogers himself. He'd be a little annoyed but eventually understanding because Wilson was actually there when Rogers was around, unlike Walker.
True, but compared to Sam who kept trying to show he was the “real” Captain America, I think John has a right to say he’s Captain America, cause most of the time, he was helping everyone out, not for some sinister purpose, but because he actually felt happy doing the right thing, like when he comforted Lamar’s family after he died, or when he decided to help people who were in a truck who were going to be killed from falling from a ledge, that’s true heroism, more than whatever Sam was doing, who tried to be sympathetic with the literal Terrorists who killed multiple innocent people, and attacked John for killing only one Terrorist
@@Grag235Didn't Sam and Bucky stop the Flagsmashers and saved all the hostages? What did John do except execute one in public? Of course, you'd act like Sam didn't do anything just because you like John more
@@BlueSkullXI think you're the one doing exactly the opposite, defending people who were preventing Walker from saving innocent civilians (Sam and Bucky). If Roger were there, he would clearly be disappointed in both of them, after all, they are in denial, because they don't believe that anyone other than Roger or one of them two deserves to keep the Captain America mantle, something that is not up to them to decide, and in another comic, it shows Walker beating up Falcon because he was corrupted by the shield, showing that indeed, Sam does not deserve the shield, and Walker even gives him a lesson on how he dishonored Captain America's mantle, and everything it represents.
Bucky and Sam keep duckin' on John and Lemar feels like the writers were copying what Mr Incredible did to Buddy/Incediboy/Syndrome: Police Officer: You mean he (Bomb Voyage) got away? Mr. Incredible: Well, yeah. Skippy here made sure of that. Incrediboy: INCREDIBOY!... Mr. Incredible: You’re not affiliated with me! Gov. Agents: You mean the "Flag-Smashers" got away? Wilson: Well, yes but to be fair... Barnes: (interrupts and gestures to Walker) Until Johnny-Boy here let it happened. Walker: I'M CAPTAIN AMERICA!... Barnes: You’re not affiliated with us!
Didn't Walker save their lives in the first encounter and tehn they both let him and Lemar deal with the terrorist alone? The fuck is that comparisson?
@@ShadowSonic2 Didnt John ask Sam and Bucky if they could cooperate first, but Sam and Bucky were too busy being a bag of dicks to have any courtesy whatsoever?
John: "Your partner is in there. Do you want his blood on your hands?" My guy you rushing in is the reason hoskins your partner got murdered by accident
Man yall keep hating on walker when he didn't do anything wrong. The guy was trying to fight terrorists that wanted to kill him while bucky and falcon just kept making fun of him
Biggest mistake Sam and Bucky did in the series was working with John in episode 4 Also the shield doesn't belong to Walker after what he did at the end of the episode
@@SA_586 Killing a super human terrorist makes him not worthy of the shield, when Iron Man does the same thing to Terrorists WITHOUT super human abilities? Plus, Steve killed several people, but he isn’t seen as a bad person, why is one bad and the other isn’t when they both do exactly the same thing?
*John Walker exists* Bucky: and I took that personaly John: Steve was like a brother Winter soldier: let me kill him, LET ME KILL HIM!! Bucky: pls no calm down 😣 John: you don't want your partner's blood on your hands right? Bucky: no but I love to have yours *Dora milaje beating up John* Sam: Bucky Bucky: nah I'm not gonna John: you don't want to do this Winter soldier: can I come out now? Bucky: alr do what you want to do Sam: 😐😐😐
Walker: Steve was like a brother to me. Bucky *Winter Soldier theme intensifies* Sam: You good, Bucky? Bucky: There is only Winter until the mission ends. Ready to comply.
They ruined Bucky character in this, honestly i fucking despised him and Sam throughout the show for hating and bullying Walker for no reason when Walker just tried to be friendly towards them. Good job writer, because of you guys I won't care about the new Captain America/Sam anymore because how much you ruined the character
@@Wild-NightmareHe's hating on anyone who likes Bucky. He responded to bunch of my comments the same way. I don't get why he's even on the video if he hates Bucky as a character so much.
They probably wanted to make it a Sam only movie so that he could stand on his own. But I think that's a mistake because Bucky was central to the previous 3 Cap movies and it just won't feel the same. Oh well, I still have hope for Thunderbolts. Both Bucky and Yelena are in it. Manifesting a sibling relationship because they are both little sass bots and it would be hilarious.
Bucky: Don’t go down that road. Walker: I’m not like you Well yeah, Bucky became a moody dick after 70 years of brainwashing and torture. What’s your excuse John?
20 years of military trauma and just now seeing his best friend get murdered might also trigger some bad reactions Also I might highly recommend you do research on what it takes for someone to get a Medal of Honor and the emotional and physical trauma. Watch real life Medal of Honor recipients. And then think on the fact that Walker has THREE Medals of Honor, not just one. Most people don’t even get one medal, the fact that Walker has three speaks to his character far more than most people can even truly understand.
@@Random_RidiculousnessExactly. Bucky could wipe the floor with everyone in seconds. But he's afraid of The Winter Soldier coming out again if he loses control.
So in otherworldly Bucky not being professional enough to set aside personal feelings for his allies in order to get the job done like real soldiers do and John trying to work with Sam and Bucky so the job gets done? Yeah Walker did nothing wrong
All three have too many issues to be put in the field. Given how Karli died, this whole thing could've been wrapped up more easily by a spec ops unit with a precise application of gunfire.
@@SA_586 Plan, that they did not disclose to him, did not inform him, and John had to work with what he have and he is a bad guy here? Don't you think, if they would be a little less assholes themselves, if they put aside their feeling and work as, well, professionals should work, they'd would deal with all those terrorists a lot more faster, and saved a lot more lives?
There's a lot of subtle and not so subtle stuff that sets Walker up as not a great dude. Honestly, the first clip we get of Walker he's punching lockers because he doesn't get his way about something. Everything about the way he's presented as Cap is what the Government wanted Cap to be and Steve fought to stay away from. He's like Bizarro Cap. He also walks up to Sam and Bucky as if he's their equals, and it's completely unearned narratively. He hasn't shown us he can play on their level yet. There are also some of us who think that the costume designers may have purposely designed Walker's Cap outfit to be less than flattering on purpose to make it look out of place on him. It looks like a kid dressed up as Cap for Halloween, not like this is a bespoke costume made with his face and body in mind. Maybe we're reading too much into it but they've done such consistently good work and then he gets the crappiest mask? Feels like there's a chance it's intentional. If it isn't the dude was WRONGED with how bad that cowl looks on him. He looks like Mr. Magoo with it on.
Tony and Steve watching from heaven. Steve: i swear i have never met him in my life Tony: which one, the guy who desecrated my father’s shield or the metal armed asshole?
They screwed up by not having Bucky be able to solo walker. By doing that they essentially said that he was as good as Steve since Steve and Bucky were even or very close
No he didn't. He didn't even feel worthy of it as he said himself. He was just desperate to live up to the legacy. If anyone had the ego problem it was Sam and Bucky
@@CodyMe No, Sam's and Bucky's resentments had nothing to with ego. Walker is an a-hole, who demanded respect from everyone - introducing himself as Captain America everytime, "Do you know who I am?", giving orders to everyone when he stepped into a room, telling Bucky and Sam to stay out of his way. He also showed no respect to Bucky and Sam, calling them wingmen that he wanted to work for him, and calling Bucky by his nickname as if they were friends. Even Zemo showed more decency in calling him James.
@@Stephanie-es7wv This is a dishonest take, as it removes all context. He only pulled the "you bo who I am" thing out of frustration once. While he wasn't an "asshole" to Buck and Falcon first, he was respectful, helpful, ans kind. They were complete jackasses for no good reason and yes it had a lot to do with ego. It was in response to their bullshit that he treated them in kind. He didn't want them to work for him, he just called them the original caps wingman. Silly thing to say, but no disrespect intended. Falcon was just acting like an overly sensitive child at that. Zemo is a mass murderer who used bucky as a way to get revenge. Not someone who's respect is worth anything. Meanwhile Walker was actually on official business while Sam and Buck just did everything they could to insult him and make his job harder for bo good reason. Even having more sympathy for terrorists than for him. It was disturbing
@@CodyMeBucky had good reason to hate Walker. That being said, for Walker the shield was about his own glory, not service to others. Which is readily apparent.
@mish375 Nope. It's only "apparent" if you went out of your way to ignore what is seen and said in the show. He had it forced on him, and tried to live up to the legend of his predecessor. Had nothing to do with his "glory". Bucky has no reason for being a jerkoff towards him. Otherwise you'd name it
I’m really confused by all the people who say they like Walker, because he killed a man in front of dozens of people, just because the man was there when his (Walker) friend was killed. And this was after the serum that brings out who you already are
The man was a terrorist involved with the murder of his friend, he wasnt innocent either, and when he took the serum he wasnt turned into a killer, he was just in his emotions when his bestfriend literally died so he killed the person involved with his bestfriends murder and even after that he wasnt anymore rude and tried to save people. If you ask me, he is still the same man even after the serum
Times where I wished Bucky would go all Winter soldier on John walkers ass Actually no I always wanted him to go all winter soldier on John’s since the start of the show
One thing I personally didn't like is John calls Bucky "Bucky." Like no "Sergeant Barnes," or "James." or anything! Like he has *NO* right to do that since he said Steve called him Bucky because he knew him longer.
meanwhile he was the good guy of the show... everyone is against him for some stupid reason when they are the ones who are doing the bad guys. I prefer US Agent a lot more than Cap.
I actually get it. Sam didn't feel like he could be Cap. He knew he couldn't live up to the image that Steve presented to the world it was only Bucky who knew that the Steve that tge world saw was just an image not the real man
Honestly, Sam and Bucky were a-holes to John. Right from the start too. The double standards too. As far as moral authority, Captain America, let so many people die on a battlefield to save a robot. What's the point of saving one person if you kill hundreds to do it.
Let's face it we all want to punch Walker I mean when I was watching this show with my mom she literally wanted to punch Walker and also was encouraging Sam and Bucky to punch him. 😂😂😂
@@Stephanie-es7wvBecause they got his friend killed, besides constantly insulting him and saying that he would never be a good Captain America, even though he tried several times to show that he only wanted to save people. What's your point?
Correct me if I'm wrong but John Walker was Chosen to be the next Captain America and Because of that, Falcon and Bucky hate him for that which speaks hate fueled by Jealousy! Which makes them look like pretty much dicks to John! Hell John tried to gain their respect and even went as far as to say "Im not trying to replace steve" not only that but perhaps if maybe they treated John with a little bit more respect this would not have led to some kind of rivalry and plus it feels as though what John did killing that terroist guy can be Justified. I mean people is it really "evil" to kill terroists who hurt the innocents? Are IRL events like 9/11 a joke to you?
1- The punctuation and writing on your comment is a bit incoherent and hard to follow. 2- "what John did killing that terroist guy can be Justified" : It was completely justified. The guy had killed multiple innocent people, aided in the murder of Walker's best friend and had the super soldier serum, Walker did everyone a favour.
@@drowningmerman4256 The Flag Smashers didn't kill anyone innocent, the GRC Personnel were complicit in murder. Plus Walker killed a surrendering opponent, that's against the rules of war that the US keep bringing up
Only Bucky hated John for becoming Cap ,sam never hated him for that Sam just didn't want to work with John and Lemar because he was screwed by government and he is not ready trust two government puppets again Also John didn't kill the terrorist for noble intention he killed him just because he is angry
Let's be honest, who actually liked John? 😅 I hated him since his first second on screen, I am totally on Bucky's side. I also REALLY dislike that John calls him "Bucky"...😠 Only Steve is allowed to call him this name.
Walker: *breathes*
Bucky: Oh my god, can you not?!
Bucky 🤝 me
😂😂😂
That's exactly how he was acting. It was ridiculous.
I mean, yeah, I have the same reaction every time I see his face 😅
@lizzie2307 we all do
John walker: *exists*
Bucky: ... and i took that personally
He's not the only one..
@@mightymoon02
Definitely
Since then Walker has been on Bucky’s list.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😹
@@MMZERO9 Once Walker claimed he was like a brother to Steve the gloves came off.
I only realized that Bucky’s face really grimaced when Walker said “he was like a brother” 👀😬
O my gosh you right!
I know I was . Walker Lemar no offense but stop being cringey please
Bucky: “The audacity of this guy”
I can see where he comes from to a degree. The military is like a brotherhood, from past to present.
Bucky and Steve grew up together, were best friends since childhood, and were said to be inseparable. Bucky is the only one who could ever call Steve his brother and saw him as a little brother. He even said the Shield was closest thing he had to family he had left. It would have hurt Bucky and angered him to see John try to claim that.
John: * start's talking*
Bucky: OH HELL NO-
*he felt like a brother.*
Bucky: 😡
"so you choose war"
*Winter Soldier theme intensifies* Bucky: Oh, no you didn't..."
@@emeillon Peace was never an option. *Bucky drawing out knife and hidden sniper rifle from secret compartment*
"Even tho I never met him"
Tf Walker?
@@mish375Walker: “Why do I hear boss music?”
*Winter Soldier theme gets louder*
Bucky: *Meets John* i feel the Winter Soldier coming back
Sam: But you're cured right?
Bucky: ...
Sam: Bucky?
Bucky: Ready to comply
Hahahahahaa
Ya Gotov Otvechat’
Mission Report: December 16th 1991
@@RetalsslateRoh crapppppo
Naaahhhhhhhhhhh
This serie showed that everyone has a bad side: Walker, Karli, but most importantly Sam and Bucky, too. Everyone has flaws and as Zemo said, it's important to keep that in mind, otherwise we make them icons, and from that, bad things happen.
Bad things happened when the writters of this show were given work.
They had to evolve the 2 main characters, introduce at least 2 more. Make a stand alone story that fits into the MCU plus the Contessa and set up for the Thunderbolts film. What would you have done?
@@drowningmerman4256 Oh grow up. This is the kind of internal character conflict I wish I could see in Batman.
@@ShadowSonic2 The character conflict of being petty and hostile to a guy constantly trying to reach out to and work with him to stop a terrorist group?
@@drowningmerman4256 i mean, it does make sense why they’d act like that to john tho. he’s trying to be captain america more than he is trying to live up to his legacy and the way he interacts with sam and bucky shows an extension of that. i’d be pretty hostile if someone started trying to be a loved one i’d lost and tried to make a connection based on, especially following events i didn’t want to happen. (for sam, it was anyone taking up the shield since he put it in the museum. for bucky, it was the shield being anywhere that wasn’t with sam since steve wanted sam to have it)
1:45 Bucky: don’t go down that road believe me it doesn’t end well
John: I’m not like you
Me: 🤭
No fair bucky is pure now
“This bitch-“
I was like “The audacity of this bitc-
bucky stans all really went “😚🔪” at that (me included)
but he really isn't...he chose to save people of his own accord with no friend to break him out of his trauma, even though those people fcked him over and over again, John doesn't even do mindless killing...
Walker: "Do you really want his blood on your hands?"
Bucky: "well I certainly want yours."
To me no one can replace Steve Rogers. They should have just honour him the way they did to Iron Man.
They are being canonically accurate from the comics. There have been multiple captain America’s. All of which should have their story told as they are all great characters. Get over it.
@@lotuslady9821 Yeah but that just causes confusion. Just like how there are different Robin's. Causes arguments on who's the best.
@@peeweemaroske8619 It doesn’t cause confusion lol if it does you have low brain power. And that’s kinda the point. Everyone has a favorite. It’s the same idea of Batman vs Superman. Everyone gets a character they like.
Someone clearly never read the comics. Captain America will always be replaced. Steve Rogers is a name, captain America is a mantle and it’s passed down. Bucky will probably be next. Steve Rogers is dead, move on.
The big difference with iron man is that there wasn’t many iron man’s ones that did succeed him went under different names as far as I can remember Iron Man IS Tony Stark as much as Tony Stark IS Iron Man.
The total Captain America is a symbol and a title rather than A identity. Steve Rogers never flaunted the titles Captain America he rarely if ever called himself that in the films unlike Iron Man who went on national tv and told the world who He was. Roger didn’t and wouldn’t want this to be specific to him as he sees it a symbol to carry America forward and to continue to be a symbol.
The only man who travelled through time with him (in solid ice at that), the only man that could’ve saved him was his own childhood friend. Now someone else who’s entire persona was as an extension of the government has the gall to call a man he never knew like his own “Brother”. Yeah, I can’t really say I blame Bucky for being so pissed off at Steve’s replacement
Been there been there
Pissed at Walker for daring to tread in Steve’s shoes when he doesn’t have the first clue about what it means to be Captain America
Pissed at Sam for giving up the shield because he thought he wasn’t worthy of the title
Damn i feel bad for Barnes…
Also Bucky is forgotten by a government that was content to prop him and Steve up as symbols, but then discard him for returning broken and traumatized. Which is a commentary on how veterans are treated and forgotten about by the world. It's hard to watch (I've had family that have served) but it is realistic. And heartbreaking.
@@CrasherX2000 What are you even talking about? Not only is walker a soldier, meaning yes, steve Was his brother, but he's never shown as being willy nilly nor selfish or self-obsessed. He says himself "I'm not steve rodgers". Of Bucky cared about the mantle so much, why didn't HE get the shield? Oh yeah, because even though he's whining about everything he's too childish to do anything about it other than complain.
@@mish375 Wouldn't that mean Bucky is a commentary about how older veterans are assholes to younger veterans?
Bucky & Sam vs Walker: takes 15 minutes
Winter Soldier vs Steve: haha, I got your shield
to be fair, Steve did *throw* the shield at him
@@courtneym75 Walker also threw it at Bucky and Bucky got bodied by it. Either the showrunners never saw the Steve vs Bucky fight or Walker is straight up stronger than Steve.
@@controversialopinion5722Bucky is massively holding back. He fears becoming the Winter Soldier again if he loses control.
@@controversialopinion5722well Bucky is a changed man. Better person overall but nerfed. He doesn’t have that killer instinct and holds back a lot.
@@controversialopinion5722 About Walker being stronger than Steve, I'm not quite sure. But Steve did take an outdated serum as a skinny man, while John took the latest edition when he's already a seasoned soldier
there should’ve been a test, if you can lift thor’s hammer you can have the shield
I think Bucky would be worthy of Mjolnir. But he would have to lift it without knowing the significance of it.
@@mish375I doubt it, Bucky has a ton of self guilt
@@Derp-rz1nn That's why I said that Bucky could only lift it without knowing what it means to lift it. The hammer knows who a worthy soul is. But they have to not want to wield it for the wrong reasons. If Bucky knew, his guilt would prevent him from lifting it. If he didn't, I think he would be able to lift it.
@@mish375Ain’t no way Bucky lifts the hammer.
Steve is an anomaly
Besides Cap and Thor none of the other avengers could, including Iron Man, were they bad people?
I can not fuCKing wAIT for these two to interact again in the Thunderbolts. It’s gonna be sO gOOD.
Buckys gonna solo John
This series made Bucky be my favourite MCU character
Your favourites tend to be shitty people?
Same
They also turned Bucky and Sam into bitter jackasses that threw olive branches in John's face.
Bucky and Sam are supposed to be the good guys in this series? Sam kept on letting the flag smashers go. They indirectly let Lamar get killed.
Same
@@9751matt what Sam and Bucky did to John? They said they are not interested to work with John that's it
Only mistake Sam and Bucky did in the series was working with John in episode 4
'bc u smell'
Literally had to pause the video.
I'm dyinggggg. 😂😂😂😂😂
2:10 Crazy to hear him say that... knowing how things go down...
i think what gets to me is that John walker just calls him bucky straight up. its still a nickname, id be inclined to dislike someone who just starts adrssing my by nickname first thing.
Wtf are you talking about??
The Smithsonian literally has a name plague that says Bucky Barnes, given Walker likely grew up with a lot of history stuff that also calls him Bucky, that’s the name he went with.
@@CaptainPikeachu it doesn't say bucky Barnes it has his full name on it and people he's close with can only call uim bucky as it was a nickname given to him by Steve and Steve was someone who had a good judge of character which is why Sam can call him bucky or buck its a nickname people shouldn't out right call him by the first time you see him.
@@jaquanbrown413 that’s the same reason zemo calls him James at times
The hilarious thing is that Zemo always calls him "James" and Bucky doesn't get mad at that.
Just a reminder that Bucky fought in WWII. Walker strutting around in his friend's costume acting like he's a big deal because he fought in some police actions and occupations is probably enough to get on Bucky's nerves.
Walker: "I've been shot at! I've seen action."
Barnes: "Bitch, I've been held prisoner by both Hydra and the KGB, and I've outlived both groups."
How many medals of honour did Barnes recieve. And as far as I know, neither he nor Sam have ever jumped on a live grenade. Walker has. By his own logic, Walker is more deserving of the title than either of them.
@@iainwhite8617 Yea like prior to receiving the shield, Walker went to all of those shits in real battlefield as a regular human without serum accompanied by normal comrades too. And people somehow trying to downplay his ptsd lmao.
Just cause Bucky fought in war doesn’t give you the right to act like Walker didn’t also fight in wars
@@Derp-rz1nnyou cannot be this braindead. Fighting in a war is one thing but being captured and brainwashed into being a fully fledged assassin against your will is another kind of psychological terror. Bucky overcame that.
@@the-ironclad
One man's trauma does not erase another's. Walker had it, and neither Bucky, himself traumatized, nor Sam, somebody who routinely tried to counsel traumatized vets, tried to be understanding.
Also remember that Bucky did not break out on his own. Steve helped him, and then had help from the people of Wakanda afterwards.
I’ve noticed a of people here are mad at Bucky for being a jerk to Walker for no reason, when I honestly think he was still grieving Steve. I’d be angry too if I was in Bucky’s position. Even after John admits he doesn’t want to replace Steve, I would still be mad, because he would be reminding me of Steve every time I saw him. (Also Walker claimed Steve was like his brother, even though that was untrue.)
He never claimed to have any actual relationship with Steve. He explicitly said he'd never met the guy. Him saying that Steve felt like a brother to him is him saying that he idolised the guy, that he grew up looking up to Steve as his hero, much like many people would see their big brother as a source of inspiration.
It would be like if I said that it feels like I know Hugh Jackman because I've seen all his movies and interviews. I've never met the guy and realistically he's probably quite different in person. But it might feel to me like I know him.
Frankly random people looking up to Steve as their older brother is exactly the kind of inspiration and hope that Captain America aimed to inspire.
Such a w3ak mentality. Folks who think like this are dangerously and there’s a lot who justify this dumb mentality . Just because a person reminds you of someone doesn’t justify hating them. Such a weak and sensitive mentality. This sign grieving or being strong. It’s weak and pathetic and emotionally very immature. People find any silly reason to justify evil or petty behavior.
If you would also act like Bucky then you're mentally a child
@@ThisisKyle I'm not saying I would, I'm just trying to get people to understand Bucky's behaviour.
Bucky's actions make sense given what he's been through. He's been screwed over by the government, had his title taken from him, has the worst court appointed therapist in the world (she would be fired irl for how she treats him), has no family, and now the closest thing he has to family - the Shield - has been given away to some guy for the government to use as a puppet for their own ends. Which is something Steve would have been against, given the Accords situation. Walker is also fake nice at first but treats Bucky like a subordinate to serve him (not the position) instead of as an equal. Bucky could see through that act and realized Walker was only about his own glory. That's why he's pissed off. It's completely understandable.
R.I.P Lamar Hoskins. I genuinely feel sorry for Lamar with all the unjustified hatred for him and everyone siding with the people who murdered him. He seemed like a decent guy but didn't stand a chance against super-soldiers or pyscho punk kids with a serum.
Also he was telling the truth. Bucky and Sam were getting thier asses kicked.
I don't get it why people hate so much John Walker but in the other hand love Homelander from The Boys...
Homelander is a jerk and John Walker is a Steve Rogers wannabe.
I'd guess because Homelander is clearly written as a villain, where as Walker is written as how a human would act but the show frames him as a villain.
I hate John Walker…I really like Soldier Boy. 🤷🏻♀️
You can love a villain
You’re assuming that the people who hate John Walker are the same people who love Homelander.
Personally, I’m happy to hate BOTH characters.
I mean if someone started cosplaying as my late best friend I'd be pissed off too
John walker tried so hard to be the next cap only to realize in the end hes meant to be his own super hero. There was no need to hate on walker. He was really trying . In reality no one will ever have steves heart not even sam or bucky. If steve met walker he would respect him unlike everyone else who had a stink eye for walker
I think this is true but the reason I dislike Walker is because with some things he really crossed the line. First of all the cold-blooded murder of a man who wasn’t even the one that killed his best friend? But also little things like acting all familiar with Sam and Bucky when they didn’t know each other (because that would piss me off too if someone did that to me irl). And some of the comments he made to Bucky were super out of line (“I’m not like you” “This is all really easy for you isn’t it?”). Like that man is dealing with extreme PTSD and self-loathing, and Walker really wasn’t helping. But yeah Sam and Bucky did act a bit too asshole-y to Walker even if I understand where they were coming from
@@fulcrum097 That man was a terrorist, a living weapon that would've gotten away, if it wasn't for John and he was the reason his best friend died, put you in that situation, you wouldn't do the same? The whole time Walker has been nothing but nice to the both of them only to be treated like trash.
Honestly his overqualified to be captain america
@@fulcrum097in the words of George W Bush, "we don't negotiate with terrorists."
@@chrisjohnson7872in his unsaid words "we give them weapons"
@@fulcrum097It was quite literally by the definition of the word murder not murder. You can't murder an enemy combatant
Um, John, His name is James. Do Not Call Him Bucky! You don't have that right.
Bucky: Bucky is for friends, Buck is only for Steve, James is also allowed for professional relationships/family members. But for you, John, I don't even like you, so it's Sergeant Barnes.
I bet by the end of thunderbolts he will tell walker that he can call him Bucky 🥲
His name is James?? The Smithsonian museum names him as Bucky, that’s probably the only name anyone knows for him
@@Derp-rz1nn Bucky's full name is James Buchanan ("Bucky") Barnes. He goes by his middle name and not his first name. Steve basically gave Bucky a nickname for his nickname when he calls him Buck.
@@Derp-rz1nn It literally says James Buchanan Barnes in the Smithsonian
John: walks into room
Bucky: safety off ▄︻̷̿┻̿═━一
💪 safety off
🧠 Безопасность выключена
John: *Existing and being the new cap*
Bucky: “how fucking dare you stand where he stood”
Bucky looked so hurt when he was watching that interview with John Walker. I felt so bad for him.
Johns really pissed me off holding the winter soldier over Bucky, anyone being the same in his circumstance after being brainwashed.
He wasn't exactly in the best state of mind at that point. No one would be
Sgt Barnes to you, walker. show some respect.
I think Walker outranks him in the military though.. wasn;t he an officer?
@@englishlady9797 Bucky just did more than John in terms of service. Both in the Military and Superhero world
@@BlueSkullX I mean John wsa probably in the armed forces longer than Bucky, but yeah-- having served in WW2 and fought HYDRA during the worst war in history is pretty much unmatchable.
@englishlady9797
So what? You address people you don't know formally. Not by their NICKNAME!
@@galinabrack6057 Yeah, Bucky only lets people call him that who know him or who he likes. Walker should maybe address him as Barnes or Sgt Barnes since they are both military vets.
I mean Bucky, Sam, the Avengers and even the rotting corpses of the soldiers who fought alongside Steve in WW2 had every right to grimace when Walker had the audacity to say that Steve felt like a brother.
And that's because only Bucky has the right to refer to Steve as his brother. The two grew up together, fought together, and were inseparable before Hydra took Bucky. John waltzing in and claiming that title rightfully pissed off Bucky.
Yes one could argue the Avenegers could use the title in reference to the fact that they were close and were a found family in the military sense. But in the true family sense, only Bucky has the right to use it. To him, Steve was and always will be his brother.
@@mish375no it’s germ used quite often by people who serve in the military even if they don’t know each other
"That serum doesn't exactly have a great track record, no offense"
*bionic staring machine activated*
I think no one should call him "Bucky" except Steve
Okay but imagine your best friend who’s the closest thing you have to a brother leaves you and the guy who is basically meant to replace him goes and says “he feels like a brother.” After everything Steve and Bucky did for each other? Yeah, I would be pissed too.
Yeah, but saying that he felt that Steve was a brother to him didn’t feel wrong, didn’t say he was the only brother, just that he like A brother, cause he felt inspired by Steve, Bucky getting angry that someone got so inspired by Steve to the point that John considers Steve a brother just makes him seem like a toxic fanboy who can’t accept when other people look up to the same person he does, that’s like getting mad at someone for considering your friend a hero to them, that isn’t bad, that’s just being inspired by someone you’re attached to
(Plus, John didn’t even want to be Captain America, until later in his career when he realized that him being Captain America can save more lives, so he accepts it, cause he feels like other people need him)
But he even says, I didn’t know him. They weren’t related, and they weren’t even really close friends like Steve and Bucky, so walker saying that was out of line
@@AmandaPrice-f8c Yeah. If Wilson and not Walker said that, I think Barnes at least would've been at peace with it given that Wilson also was Rogers' friend and was vouched for by Rogers himself. He'd be a little annoyed but eventually understanding because Wilson was actually there when Rogers was around, unlike Walker.
I only disliked John because of how often he said he was Captain America. He was way to arrogant about it.
Atleast he is more human than Sam
I bet 99% of people would have used that title as a shell, he wasn't doing nothing.
True, but compared to Sam who kept trying to show he was the “real” Captain America, I think John has a right to say he’s Captain America, cause most of the time, he was helping everyone out, not for some sinister purpose, but because he actually felt happy doing the right thing, like when he comforted Lamar’s family after he died, or when he decided to help people who were in a truck who were going to be killed from falling from a ledge, that’s true heroism, more than whatever Sam was doing, who tried to be sympathetic with the literal Terrorists who killed multiple innocent people, and attacked John for killing only one Terrorist
@@Grag235Didn't Sam and Bucky stop the Flagsmashers and saved all the hostages? What did John do except execute one in public? Of course, you'd act like Sam didn't do anything just because you like John more
@@BlueSkullXI think you're the one doing exactly the opposite, defending people who were preventing Walker from saving innocent civilians (Sam and Bucky). If Roger were there, he would clearly be disappointed in both of them, after all, they are in denial, because they don't believe that anyone other than Roger or one of them two deserves to keep the Captain America mantle, something that is not up to them to decide, and in another comic, it shows Walker beating up Falcon because he was corrupted by the shield, showing that indeed, Sam does not deserve the shield, and Walker even gives him a lesson on how he dishonored Captain America's mantle, and everything it represents.
Bucky and Sam keep duckin' on John and Lemar feels like the writers were copying what Mr Incredible did to Buddy/Incediboy/Syndrome:
Police Officer: You mean he (Bomb Voyage) got away?
Mr. Incredible: Well, yeah. Skippy here made sure of that.
Incrediboy: INCREDIBOY!...
Mr. Incredible: You’re not affiliated with me!
Gov. Agents: You mean the "Flag-Smashers" got away?
Wilson: Well, yes but to be fair...
Barnes: (interrupts and gestures to Walker) Until Johnny-Boy here let it happened.
Walker: I'M CAPTAIN AMERICA!...
Barnes: You’re not affiliated with us!
Didn't Walker save their lives in the first encounter and tehn they both let him and Lemar deal with the terrorist alone? The fuck is that comparisson?
@@drowningmerman4256 He told Bucky and Sam to not interfere with him...and then he spent the rest of the show interfering with THEM.
@@ShadowSonic2 Didnt John ask Sam and Bucky if they could cooperate first, but Sam and Bucky were too busy being a bag of dicks to have any courtesy whatsoever?
@@ShadowSonic2 because they wouldn't leave the issue to him. That's the whole point. Bucky and Sam aren't very good heroes.
John quite literally didn't get in the way. Sam and Bucky got in the way
John walker : WHY R U MAKING ME DO THIS - cutely throws Bucky -
Bucky : YEET
- Looking strong, John! 🤪
- Buckyyyy 🙄
Looking Strong John!
John: "Your partner is in there. Do you want his blood on your hands?"
My guy you rushing in is the reason hoskins your partner got murdered by accident
Also Bucky: You put him in this situation. Why don't you do something about it?
What? That whole thing was Sam's idea.
Man yall keep hating on walker when he didn't do anything wrong. The guy was trying to fight terrorists that wanted to kill him while bucky and falcon just kept making fun of him
Bucky was so tired “Things are really intense for you aren’t they Walker..” 😂😂😂
where's the original
it got blocked in my main channel @mykingbird
Sam and Bucky should have mentored him to be Captain America
But instead used Lamars death to steal back the shield
Biggest mistake Sam and Bucky did in the series was working with John in episode 4
Also the shield doesn't belong to Walker after what he did at the end of the episode
@@SA_586biggest mistake sam did was
He thought he will be next Steve Rogers 😂
@@SA_586didn't Steve did the same thing in civil war?
John literally lost his best friend
@@SA_586 Killing a super human terrorist makes him not worthy of the shield, when Iron Man does the same thing to Terrorists WITHOUT super human abilities? Plus, Steve killed several people, but he isn’t seen as a bad person, why is one bad and the other isn’t when they both do exactly the same thing?
he didnt deserve steves shield sorry
*John Walker exists*
Bucky: and I took that personaly
John: Steve was like a brother
Winter soldier: let me kill him, LET ME KILL HIM!!
Bucky: pls no calm down 😣
John: you don't want your partner's blood on your hands right?
Bucky: no but I love to have yours
*Dora milaje beating up John*
Sam: Bucky
Bucky: nah I'm not gonna
John: you don't want to do this
Winter soldier: can I come out now?
Bucky: alr do what you want to do
Sam: 😐😐😐
Walker: Steve was like a brother to me.
Bucky *Winter Soldier theme intensifies*
Sam: You good, Bucky?
Bucky: There is only Winter until the mission ends. Ready to comply.
@@mish375 damn 😂 it's cool
@@ChristinaAngel-cb2xt Cool? You mean ice cold like...WINTER. 😆
@@mish375 lol
Me: YEAH WINTER GO GET HIM
I love this
Mander Moore / Rachel Saruzner Ladd Venom
Rachel Saruzne Ladd daughter of the Sue Ladd
Arauptinse Kid Rachel Saruzner Ladd / Venom
Arauptinse T'Challa / Black Panther
Corzey Lopez / Carlos Curry Prince Doctor Rider
Carlos Curry Prince Son of the Diana Prince
They ruined Bucky character in this, honestly i fucking despised him and Sam throughout the show for hating and bullying Walker for no reason when Walker just tried to be friendly towards them.
Good job writer, because of you guys I won't care about the new Captain America/Sam anymore because how much you ruined the character
please, you know your reason is a racist one
Your generation calls everything bullying. Toughen up.
I like the way Bucky kicks Walker’s ass
Outro song ?
0:22 Sam sounds like a mother reprimanding a child lol
Sebastian Stam / James Buchanan Barnes Winter Soldier
Does it upset anyone else every time Walker calls Bucky Bucky?
It probably annoys even Zemo. Zemo: Walker, have some respect. If James doesn't want us to use his nickname then don't.
No because I'm not a child
@@ThisisKyle Your tone is coming off a little aggressive there, was it an accident or are your purposefully trying to be a big meanie pants?
@@Wild-NightmareHe's hating on anyone who likes Bucky. He responded to bunch of my comments the same way. I don't get why he's even on the video if he hates Bucky as a character so much.
@@mish375 Oh, well that’s not nice of him. He should respect that people can have differing opinions on characters and to not be toxic about it.
"Things are really intense for you, aren't they, Walker.?" ☠️
Buck was probably like *is he srly gaslighting me about my boyfriend as if he knows better*
How Capt America 4 isnt Sam and Bucky in a buddy cop movie escapes me
They probably wanted to make it a Sam only movie so that he could stand on his own. But I think that's a mistake because Bucky was central to the previous 3 Cap movies and it just won't feel the same. Oh well, I still have hope for Thunderbolts. Both Bucky and Yelena are in it. Manifesting a sibling relationship because they are both little sass bots and it would be hilarious.
2:18 Bucky didn’t need to be crazy to see that this man is clearly unhinged
Bucky: Don’t go down that road.
Walker: I’m not like you
Well yeah, Bucky became a moody dick after 70 years of brainwashing and torture. What’s your excuse John?
20 years of military trauma and just now seeing his best friend get murdered might also trigger some bad reactions
Also I might highly recommend you do research on what it takes for someone to get a Medal of Honor and the emotional and physical trauma. Watch real life Medal of Honor recipients. And then think on the fact that Walker has THREE Medals of Honor, not just one. Most people don’t even get one medal, the fact that Walker has three speaks to his character far more than most people can even truly understand.
@@CaptainPikeachu Doesn't change the fact that he's being a hypocrite.
@@CaptainPikeachu Yeah, but the sad thing is that it was Walker's own impulsiveness that ultimately caused Lemar's death.
@@CaptainPikeachu you fuckin told him 👍
@@ShadowSonic2 How did Walkers impulsiveness cause Karli to punch Lamar into there pillar? You're simping harder than Falcon for her
The fact that bucky become weaker when he became a good guy
he didn't he just holds back because he's scared he's still strong he just doesn't really want to fight anymore
He's not weaker he's just holding back because he doesn't want to hurt people (it's literally shown in episode 3 how strong he can be if he wants to)
@@Random_RidiculousnessExactly. Bucky could wipe the floor with everyone in seconds. But he's afraid of The Winter Soldier coming out again if he loses control.
Why do you people say these ridiculous things?
My poor best boy
So in otherworldly Bucky not being professional enough to set aside personal feelings for his allies in order to get the job done like real soldiers do and John trying to work with Sam and Bucky so the job gets done? Yeah Walker did nothing wrong
All three have too many issues to be put in the field. Given how Karli died, this whole thing could've been wrapped up more easily by a spec ops unit with a precise application of gunfire.
Sam and Bucky didn't work with Walker because he is asshole who screwed their plan in episode 4
@@SA_586 Plan, that they did not disclose to him, did not inform him, and John had to work with what he have and he is a bad guy here? Don't you think, if they would be a little less assholes themselves, if they put aside their feeling and work as, well, professionals should work, they'd would deal with all those terrorists a lot more faster, and saved a lot more lives?
Walker didn't try to work with Bucky and Sam. He wanted them to work FOR him. Not Bucky was the bad guy, but Walker with his a-hole attitude.
@@SA_586John didn't screw over any plan and he objectively isn't an asshole
I mean same Bucky, same.
why do people hate him so much
They prefer pure vanilla ice cream
You know what I mean
@@nohomonohetero7932 Yea. I do.
There's a lot of subtle and not so subtle stuff that sets Walker up as not a great dude. Honestly, the first clip we get of Walker he's punching lockers because he doesn't get his way about something. Everything about the way he's presented as Cap is what the Government wanted Cap to be and Steve fought to stay away from. He's like Bizarro Cap. He also walks up to Sam and Bucky as if he's their equals, and it's completely unearned narratively. He hasn't shown us he can play on their level yet.
There are also some of us who think that the costume designers may have purposely designed Walker's Cap outfit to be less than flattering on purpose to make it look out of place on him. It looks like a kid dressed up as Cap for Halloween, not like this is a bespoke costume made with his face and body in mind. Maybe we're reading too much into it but they've done such consistently good work and then he gets the crappiest mask? Feels like there's a chance it's intentional. If it isn't the dude was WRONGED with how bad that cowl looks on him. He looks like Mr. Magoo with it on.
Because they have low intelligence
Tony and Steve watching from heaven.
Steve: i swear i have never met him in my life
Tony: which one, the guy who desecrated my father’s shield or the metal armed asshole?
I love Bucky haircut from 2000's.
Honestly I hope they bring Walker back. He is a great character. An anti Captain America. I like that.
hes coming back in the thunder bolts
"Visibly disgusted." Literally me every time I see John's face. Dude doesn't even to talk to annoy me.
They screwed up by not having Bucky be able to solo walker. By doing that they essentially said that he was as good as Steve since Steve and Bucky were even or very close
Bucky can easily solo him. Who said he can't?
2:18 JOHN IMA HAVE YOUR BLOOD ON MY HAND IN A MINUTE
All of this wouldn’t have started if Sam just kept the damn shield
The writers broke the 4th wall with Bucky knowing we would also hate walker🤣
I almost threw up when John said the word Bucky🤮
Bucky: Don't go down that road, believe me it doesn't end well.
Walker: I'm not like you!
Me: Alright that tears it! 😡🔪
Absolutely hate how weak they made buckey
Sees John-I feel a storm brewing 💀
Captain America is NOT the perfect soldier, he is a good man. Walker had too much of an ego
No he didn't. He didn't even feel worthy of it as he said himself. He was just desperate to live up to the legacy. If anyone had the ego problem it was Sam and Bucky
@@CodyMe No, Sam's and Bucky's resentments had nothing to with ego. Walker is an a-hole, who demanded respect from everyone - introducing himself as Captain America everytime, "Do you know who I am?", giving orders to everyone when he stepped into a room, telling Bucky and Sam to stay out of his way. He also showed no respect to Bucky and Sam, calling them wingmen that he wanted to work for him, and calling Bucky by his nickname as if they were friends. Even Zemo showed more decency in calling him James.
@@Stephanie-es7wv This is a dishonest take, as it removes all context. He only pulled the "you bo who I am" thing out of frustration once. While he wasn't an "asshole" to Buck and Falcon first, he was respectful, helpful, ans kind. They were complete jackasses for no good reason and yes it had a lot to do with ego. It was in response to their bullshit that he treated them in kind. He didn't want them to work for him, he just called them the original caps wingman. Silly thing to say, but no disrespect intended. Falcon was just acting like an overly sensitive child at that.
Zemo is a mass murderer who used bucky as a way to get revenge. Not someone who's respect is worth anything. Meanwhile Walker was actually on official business while Sam and Buck just did everything they could to insult him and make his job harder for bo good reason. Even having more sympathy for terrorists than for him. It was disturbing
@@CodyMeBucky had good reason to hate Walker. That being said, for Walker the shield was about his own glory, not service to others. Which is readily apparent.
@mish375 Nope. It's only "apparent" if you went out of your way to ignore what is seen and said in the show. He had it forced on him, and tried to live up to the legend of his predecessor. Had nothing to do with his "glory".
Bucky has no reason for being a jerkoff towards him. Otherwise you'd name it
Loved his hate ❤
Wow Bucky must hate John Walker
Man John walker is so underrated
Walker: *hi*
Bucky: "STOP TALKING!!!"
Bruh I'm Dead 🤣
I’m really confused by all the people who say they like Walker, because he killed a man in front of dozens of people, just because the man was there when his (Walker) friend was killed. And this was after the serum that brings out who you already are
The man was a terrorist involved with the murder of his friend, he wasnt innocent either, and when he took the serum he wasnt turned into a killer, he was just in his emotions when his bestfriend literally died so he killed the person involved with his bestfriends murder and even after that he wasnt anymore rude and tried to save people.
If you ask me, he is still the same man even after the serum
Bucky also let Battlestar die. Then beat the crap out of his best friend while he was grieving and suffering from ptsd.
Walker: *exist
Bucky: there goes longing
Walker: *still exist
Bucky: don't let me chant myself to freight car
Chant? Makes me think he's singing curses in Russian at a freight car. 😆😆😆 (I think you meant chain)
Times where I wished Bucky would go all Winter soldier on John walkers ass
Actually no I always wanted him to go all winter soldier on John’s since the start of the show
For what?
For doing his job?
Stop being an asshole
Why, because he’s not your precious steve
One thing I personally didn't like is John calls Bucky "Bucky." Like no "Sergeant Barnes," or "James." or anything! Like he has *NO* right to do that since he said Steve called him Bucky because he knew him longer.
He was good in overlord
Never resonated more with Bucky on an opinion than now
meanwhile he was the good guy of the show... everyone is against him for some stupid reason when they are the ones who are doing the bad guys.
I prefer US Agent a lot more than Cap.
JD Vance vibes 😂
If you hate John Walker after watching this show then you seriously lack media literacy. He's the only good person in the show
Okay psycho. He murders an unarmed man in the street while he begs for mercy. It's one of the most evil cations in the MCU.
I'm still miffed Sam didn't honor Steve's final request
I actually get it. Sam didn't feel like he could be Cap. He knew he couldn't live up to the image that Steve presented to the world it was only Bucky who knew that the Steve that tge world saw was just an image not the real man
Honestly, Sam and Bucky were a-holes to John. Right from the start too. The double standards too. As far as moral authority, Captain America, let so many people die on a battlefield to save a robot. What's the point of saving one person if you kill hundreds to do it.
Let's face it we all want to punch Walker I mean when I was watching this show with my mom she literally wanted to punch Walker and also was encouraging Sam and Bucky to punch him. 😂😂😂
Bucky knew John would Snap.
Only after his best friend was killed and two assholes played the riot act immediately
@@CodyMetrue but what I’m saying is that if Steve lost Bucky and Sam, he would stay on his moral ground, but John couldn’t (and who could blame him?)
This just makes Bucky look bad.
Can't wait for them to form a badass and loyal friendship in Thunderbolts.
😭 pls no
Bucky don't deserve his friendship after how he treated him
@unnaturaldodo how bucky treated walker or walker treated bucky
@@unnaturaldodo Walker doesn't deserve Bucky's friendship. He is an a-hole, that tried to kill Sam.
@@Stephanie-es7wvBecause they got his friend killed, besides constantly insulting him and saying that he would never be a good Captain America, even though he tried several times to show that he only wanted to save people. What's your point?
The world:That guy died?
Bucky and Sam:Yeah,Walker here did that.
Walker:Captain America!
Bucky and Sam:YOUR NOT AFFILIATED WITH ME!!!!
😂😂😂
One thing about CA is that he’s not selfish. Steve never put himself first and Walker does
Correct me if I'm wrong but John Walker was Chosen to be the next Captain America and Because of that, Falcon and Bucky hate him for that which speaks hate fueled by Jealousy! Which makes them look like pretty much dicks to John! Hell John tried to gain their respect and even went as far as to say "Im not trying to replace steve" not only that but perhaps if maybe they treated John with a little bit more respect this would not have led to some kind of rivalry and plus it feels as though what John did killing that terroist guy can be Justified. I mean people is it really "evil" to kill terroists who hurt the innocents? Are IRL events like 9/11 a joke to you?
1- The punctuation and writing on your comment is a bit incoherent and hard to follow.
2- "what John did killing that terroist guy can be Justified" : It was completely justified. The guy had killed multiple innocent people, aided in the murder of Walker's best friend and had the super soldier serum, Walker did everyone a favour.
Sam didn't hate Walker, he always tried to be respectful to him and diplomatic.
Bucky was the one who was the dick to him.
@@drowningmerman4256 The Flag Smashers didn't kill anyone innocent, the GRC Personnel were complicit in murder. Plus Walker killed a surrendering opponent, that's against the rules of war that the US keep bringing up
@@ShadowSonic2 "the GRC Personnel were complicit in murder" When?
You are really investing on defending this dogshit of a show, aren't you?
Only Bucky hated John for becoming Cap ,sam never hated him for that
Sam just didn't want to work with John and Lemar because he was screwed by government and he is not ready trust two government puppets again
Also John didn't kill the terrorist for noble intention he killed him just because he is angry
_"I'M BATTLESTAR." ....😶_
Let's be honest, who actually liked John? 😅 I hated him since his first second on screen, I am totally on Bucky's side.
I also REALLY dislike that John calls him "Bucky"...😠 Only Steve is allowed to call him this name.
Sam’s and Bucky were being bitchy from the start John and Lamar were just doing their jobs