Why are Somalia and Ethiopia in a deepening diplomatic dispute? | Inside Story
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
- A deal between Ethiopia and the breakaway region of Somaliland involving a new naval base, has further worsened diplomatic relations with Somalia.
Its government is furious at the agreement that would give landlocked Ethiopia access to the Red Sea. So far it is only a diplomatic dispute.
But why is this rift worsening and could there be wider consequences?
Presenter:
James Bays
Guests:
Samuel Getachew, a political commentator specialising in Ethiopia.
Sharmake Ali, an activist with UK-Somaliland Alliance.
Abdulkareem Jama, Chair of the Heritage Institute for Policy Studies - a think tank based in Somali capital Mogadishu.
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Ethiopia is landlocked country, she has to follow what the other landlocked countries do. Ethiopia should stop pretending that she doesn’t live in this universe!!!
i like how you said,thank you brother there lanlocked coutries and they dont go to their neighbors and ask land and sea to own, ethiopia is behind the world .
Yeah am with you
we will get it🤣🤣🤣 you like it or not we don't care
@@africaunite3823 GO AHEAD RANNBOW
That is just a stupid comment. No landlocked country has as much a population as Ethiopia. Ethiopia is the 2nd most populous country in Africa and the most populous landlocked country in the world with over 120 million people living in the country. The 2nd most populous landlocked country is Uzbekistan with only 36 million population (see the difference??). and also Ethiopia spends around 2 billion dollars on ports when it doesn't even have enough food security. So Ethiopia needs access to the sea/ocean and the only peaceful way is through Somaliland.
The somalia representative spoke "Ethiopian federal govt has no total control of its federal states and hard to move outside of the capital Addis Abeba because of the rebels presence few kilometres outside of Addis", this is absolutely true and Abiy has no any controlling power outside of the capital. So we Ethiopians cannot speak about functionality of Somalia govt. The best way to move forward is to respect each other's sovereignty and to act proper way through diplomatic rules.
Sharmarke thank you brother 👍🏾👍🏾😊
Ethiopia with Israeli imperial style annexation goals is playing with fire ! 🔥 Somalia 🇸🇴 has got the right to defend itself and its citizens
Somalia doesn't even control it's own land, Amisom Ethiopia etc grape their people. It has now sold it's freedom to Turkey 😆
LOOK ! FAMILY . WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT A FAILED FUTURE ON AFRICA NATION.
THE FACT YOU HAVE TO WAKE UP FOR AFRICA NATION AS ONE.
TALKING OF WAR AND WARS , KILLING EACH OTHERS FOR OVER TWO THOUSAND YEARS HAVE TO STOPPED.
AFRICA IS AFRICA WITH AFRICANS.
FIRST OVERSTRAND FACT AFRICA PROBLEM TODAY.
ETHIOPIA WAS CALLED KHROOS IN ANCIENT TIMES WITH ALL THAT AREAS LAND DOWN TO SUDAN TODAY ETC. THIS IS NOT THE TALKED.
HOWEVER., THE WESTERN GOVERNMENT POWERS WANT FULL CONTROLLED OF AFRICA WEALTH. AFRICA LEADERSHIPS ARE A SELL OUT LIKE WHAT THEY DID IN SLAVERY.
SOMALIA NATION ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE'S. THE FACT THEIR LEADER IS A SELL OUT. THEY ARE CONTROLLED BY AMERICA POWER. WHY IS THAT AND YOU ARE HAPPY WITH THAT.
YOUR LEADER WAS GIVE ARMY BASES FOR WHAT. THIS IT IS NOT A FUTURE FOR SOMALIA NATION.
WESTERN POWERS HAS TAKEN OVER SOMALIA , CREATED TERRORIST GOUPS IN AFRICA UPROOTED IT'S PEOPLE'S UNDER NARRATIVE DECEPTIONS.
ECOWAS IS A TERRORIST GOUPS PLANNED LIKE THE TERRORIST GOUP IN SOMALIA TODAY.
THIS IT IS WESTERN WAR ON YOUR NATION BIG - TIME.
ETHIOPIA ARMY ARE THERE TO YOUR CALLED GOVERNMENT TO STOP THIS PLANNED KILLING OF YOUR PEOPLE. A NATION KILLING AFRICA NATION.
YOU ARE STILL SLEEPING, RUNNING LIKE YOUR LEADER WITH COVID 19 IN YOUR BRAIN.
I AM NOT PUTTING YOU DOWN BUT THIS IS AFRICA LEADERS PROBLEM.
THE FACT WESTERN POWERS WANT TO CUT UP ETHIOPIA LIKE CAKE. THIS FACT IS THERE WAR AND CREATED WARS.
ETHIOPIA HAVE A RIGHT DIRECT TO THE SEA. WHO FOR YEARS STOPPING ETHIOPIA INNOVATION NATION FUTURE.
YOU CAN NOT OVERSTRAND THE BIGGER PICTURE OF UNITED AFRICA AGAIN.
FIRST , AFRICA LEADERS DO NOT HAVE SPACE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IN SPACE THAT CAN SCAN AND SEE 1000 MILES IN THE EARTH. THE WEALTH OF SOMALIA IS THERE OIL, GOLD, DIAMOND AND MANY ADVANCE MINERALS. WESTERN POWER WANT THIS. TODAY YOU DO NOT KNOW THE FACT AND YOUR CALLED LEADER.
ARMY BASE'S AND A WAR WITH ETHIOPIA VIA SOMALILAND.
THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT.
ETHIOPIA JUST WANT A INNOVATION DEVELOPMENTS, ECONOMIC GROWTH WITH AFRICA NATION . YES ! ONE NATION.
STOPPED ALL WARS.
AFRICA LAND HAVE TOTALLY PEACE, PEACE.
AFRICA POWER RULED , DEMAND IMMEDIATELY ALL WESTERN POWERS LEAVE AFRICA LAND.
YOU MUST OVERSTRAND.
NIGER , MALI , SENEGAL AND OTHERS LEADERSHIPS NATION POWER. SOUTH AFRICA LEADER MR MALEMA TO BE.
THIS IS AFRICA FUTURE AS ONE NATION WITH PEACE.
WESTERN POWERS HAVE TO GET OUT OF AFRICA.
SOMALIA ARMY BASE'S IS A PLANNED NARRATIVE DECEPTIONS.
ETHIOPIA , SOMALILAND , SOMALIA ARE ONE AFRICA NATION. YOU ARE AFRICANS.
SOME RUN AWAY FROM FACT BECAUSE WESTERN POWERS SLAPPED DOWN AFRICA NATION.
I READ YOUR TALKED.
YOU ARE NOT RIGHT FAMILY.
PLEASE GO BACK IN EDUCATION.
AFRICA NATION, ANCIENT HISTORY FACT.
YES! LOVE YOUR SELF , THE SAME POWER YOU LOVE YOUR ETHIOPIA FAMILY.
AFRICA NATION ARE ONE.
AFRICA NATION ARE NOT WESTERNISED CAKE ANYMORE.
THE SAME FOOLISHNESS ON ETHIOPIA ELECTRIC DAMP BUILDED. EGYPT TALKING WAR.
SOMALIA CAN GET FREE ELECTRICITY FROM ETHIOPIA.
INNOVATION NATION DEVELOPMENTS, FOODS UNLIMITED, HOUSING, CLEAN WATER, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TECHNOLOGY, ROADS. TRAINS, TUBES STATION, JOBS AND MAKING YOUR OWN PRODUCTS.
DO YOU WANT AMERICA GM FOODS. YOU GO AND GET FACT ABOUT THESE WESTERN AIDS FOODS. WHAT FUTURE IS THIS.
PLEASE STOP, YOUR FOOLISH THINKING AND WAKE UP.
@a.a0098
Does Ethiopia control all the land?
Outside Addis you have OLA and Amhara Region is Independent with Fano Army
And Tigray is still Independenct 😂😂
@@LST25 LOOK ! AFRICA NATION UNITED IS POWER.
AFRICA PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL MUST OVERSTAND IN SIMPLE WORDS.
AFRICA NATION ARE ONE AND ARE EQUAL WITH JUSTICE.
THE CANCER WESTERN GOVERNMENTS POWER NARRATIVE DECEPTIONS PLANNED. SOME AFRICANS IN AFRICA THINK THEY ARE BETTER HUMAN BEINGS.
WHEN THIS IS PLAYED LIKE MUSIC, WESTERN GOVERNMENTS POWER CAUSED ONE NOT TO LOVE THEMSELVES AND HATE OTHER HUMAN BEINGS. AFRICA NATION IS ONE AND NOT A CAKE.
SOME LEADERS ARE MIND SICK FANNING CULTURES WARS.
ALL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN IS A HAND SHAKE UNITED.
ETHIOPIA NATION ARE MANY BUT ONE NATION.
THEY ALL ARE AFRICANS IN AFRICA.
WHEN AFRICA NATION LEADERS SING THIS SONG AGAIN.
AFRICA NATION GET ALL PEACE WITH JUSTICE.
ETHIOPIA, SOMALILAND, SOMALIA WITH ALL OTHER'S MUST UNITED WITH ONE VOICED. THIS IS AFRICA NATION POWER WITH GOD LAWS.
SOMALIA NATION ARE UPROOTED AND CONTROLLED OVERSTAND FACT.
ETHIOPIA NATION ARE HEADING THE SAME WAY, IF THESE WARS GET FULL CONTROLLED. OVERSTAND THE BIGGER PICTURE FOR AFRICA NATION.
AFRICA ALREADY SLICES UP WITH 50 STATES BY EUROPEAN POWER ENFORCEMENT. OVERSTAND THE ROOTED NARRATIVE DECEPTIONS PLANNED ON AFRICA NATION.
WHEN ANY AFRICAN KILLED ANOTHER AFRICAN FOR HOW SMALL OR LARGE.
THE FACT THEY ARE KILLING THEIR OWN SELF.
OVERSTAND THE BIGGER PICTURE FOR AFRICA NATION.
LOOK! SOUTH AFRICA , A PLACE CALLED CAPE TOWN. THE WHITE MAN CAME, YES! CAME FROM EUROPE AND TAKE OVER SAID LAND.
TODAY , THESE WHITE PEOPLE WANT INDEPENDENT FROM SOUTH AFRICA. THIS CANCER BECOMED FOODS ON SOME AFRICANS GROUPS LEADERS.
QUESTION ! WHAT PART OF AFRICA NATION IS INDEPENDENT FROM THE WHOLE. THESE AFRICANS ACTING THIS WAY ARE CORRUPTED ACTING LIKE EUROPEAN PEOPLES CREATED ISRAEL IN THE MIDDLE EAST TODAY.
SUDAN WAS ONE NATION , ONE COUNTRY.
WHO ! CREATED AND PLANNED SPLIT INTO TWO HALF.
LOOK , THE FACT ANOTHER AFRICA NATION UPROOTED AND ARE IN SMOKED. OVERSTAND THE WESTERNIZED NARRATIVE DECEPTIONS AT PLAYED.
AFRICAN LIKE YOU, MUST WAKE-UP AND THINK.
PEACE AND UNITED WITH ONE VOICED IS A FUTURE.
SOMALIA LEADERS A FUTURE , THE WHITE MAN WOULD TURN THIS SAME ARMY BASES ON SOMALIA NATION. THE PLANNING LIKE IN SOUTH AFRICA AREAS CALLED CAPE TOWN.
LOOK ! AFRICA UNION IS A JOKER IN THE PACK.
WESTERN GOVERNMENTS POWER CONTROLLED AFRICA UNION.
ASK, YOUR SELF HOW CAN THIS FACT BE.
AFRICA LEADERS ARE A SELL OUT AND WEAK.
SOME WANT INDEPENDENT BECAUSE WHITE MAN TURNED UP.
YES, TURN UP WITH SUGAR, MIRRORS, GM FOODS, GUNS, BOMBS , PAPER MONEY AND COVID 19 INJECTION PLUS.
INDEPENDENT NOW NO FUTURE AT ALL ON GOING WARS.
AFRICA NATION, Z YOUNG LEADERS CAN SING NOT ON MY NECKS.
POWER IS AFRICA NATION NO CORRUPTION, NARRATIVE DECEPTIONS.
I HOPE YOU TALK THE FACT. STAND UP WITH POWER.
@@LST25 It's falling apart Ethiopia
It is disrespect for Abdikarim to have debate with such juniors who can't reveal their views probably. It looks to me that he is a highly veteran man. Thanks to him for defending the position of the somali People.
Man sharing the stage with juveniles.Abdulkarim is a resourceful,articulate and intellectual heavyweight.I hope he will become the leader of Somalia one day!
More like he’s immature and driven by his emotions instead of logic. No wonder y’all are failed state 😂
Its “Properly”
@@AJ-yj5yz
Yeah!
The old and obsolete empire of Abyssinia has failed its poor citizens!
Every day, Somalia is becoming stronger while Ethiopia is on the verge of collapse in numerous regions.
That’s right Somalia 🇸🇴 is making big power moves!
Crystal Clear!
Day dream😂
I don’t kno who tells you Somalis this xishood you rely on 3000 Ethiopian soldiers to keep you safe
@@mussiemedhane8080 Wedi Medhane , do you really believe this statement? Since , you become independent how many people left your country? The energy you wasted by being obstacles and negative against Ethiopians it shut up upward your country GDP in satisfaction!😊
Abdulkareem 🇸🇴💪🇸🇴
Abdulkarim Jamac, thanks for clarifying the case in the best way to understand it. You won the debate and well done.
It is ❤sweat. The objective argument put forward by Abdikarim. I loved how he defended Somali case and talked about how dysfunctional Ethiopia is today. Thanks forever, Abdikarim Jama
Am tont really somaliand religion's Somalia 🇸🇴 ❤
True Somalian will defend their land and pople and that is what Abdikarin did tonight long lived Abdikarim!!!
Yes, that's right Every cheater just needs that money to lie about anything And the failed government of Somalia is still lying today and Somaliland will get recognition soon All you can do is Baroorwiish😂
@Mo_Daud58 The gentleman is from North West Somalia or Somaliland. He is not a cheater but a proud Somali from Somalland, where people took arms to kick the clan based separatists out. Yeah, Somali was a failed .state, but it is emerging from the ruins of the past.
somalia have rights to protect its terottory always.
Failed Somalia italiya Failed Somalia italiya Failed Somalia italiya Failed Failed italiya Failed Somalia italiya Failed Somalia italiya Failed Somalia is nor soomaliland government
Republic of soomaliland government independent
Two countries British soomaliland and and Somalia Failed Two countries
@@dauuddaaauud8339😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 stop getting emotional
the isaaq peoples kingdom is not the territory of faqash losers
Thank you Abdikarim 😅
Somalia 1 nation, 1 culture, and 1 religion !
Didn’t work then, doesn’t work now, facts!
I want to say to abiya government to back off
Somaliland and Puntland have every right to work with our african brothers stop dividing africans Mogadishu government is weak and only controls hawiye land
@@user-ji3jy5wg4v
Stop diving africa but let me divide somalia.
Failed habeshi
They gonna show you now who the president is mark my words!
Your delusional claim that the Oromo people have no country is utterly pathetic, especially coming from someone representing Somalia-a nation synonymous with incompetence and dependency. It's no surprise that your perspective is so twisted, given Somalia's long-standing status as a global embarrassment.
Let's face it: Somalia is nothing more than a failed state, a bottom-feeder on the world stage, surviving only through handouts and foreign intervention. Your feeble attempt to diminish the rich heritage of the Oromo people is laughable, considering Somalia's own history of being a beggar for food, medicine, and international protection.
While Somalia wallows in its own filth, the Oromo people continue to assert their rightful place within Ethiopia, despite facing centuries of oppression. Your ignorant remarks only serve to highlight your own inadequacies and the depths of Somalia's degradation.
Before spewing your verbal diarrhea, perhaps take a moment to reflect on Somalia's own failures and the pitiful state of its people. Your pitiful attempt at superiority only exposes the true nature of Somalia-a nation not fit to lick the boots of those it presumes to insult.
Your delusional claim that the Oromo people have no country is utterly pathetic, especially coming from someone representing Somalia-a nation synonymous with incompetence and dependency. It's no surprise that your perspective is so twisted, given Somalia's long-standing status as a global embarrassment.
Let's face it: Somalia is nothing more than a failed state, a bottom-feeder on the world stage, surviving only through handouts and foreign intervention. Your feeble attempt to diminish the rich heritage of the Oromo people is laughable, considering Somalia's own history of being a beggar for food, medicine, and international protection.
While Somalia wallows in its own filth, the Oromo people continue to assert their rightful place within Ethiopia, despite facing centuries of oppression. Your ignorant remarks only serve to highlight your own inadequacies and the depths of Somalia's degradation.
Before spewing your verbal diarrhea, perhaps take a moment to reflect on Somalia's own failures and the pitiful state of its people. Your pitiful attempt at superiority only exposes the true nature of Somalia-a nation not fit to lick the boots of those it presumes to insult.
Well education sharmaarke well said
We Ethiopian people respect the sovereignty of our neighbors, period. We have a long history and reputation of respecting the territory of any nation. So we respect the the sovereignty of our Somali brothers. We are also never interested & intervene in the internal affairs of Somalia. So, I want to tell especially our brother Somali people, please dont misunderstand the Genuine People and the current rulers of Ethiopia.
That lie u guys don't respect the live of u own citizens lol. Bloodbath nothing more every regime, every century. Give us brake
As a proud resident of Awdal state in Somaliland, I firmly denounce the agreement between Isaaqland and Oromania. Their deal does not reflect our interests nor represent us. We stand ready to defend our homeland against any invaders who dare encroach upon our sovereignty. "Viva Somalia 🇸🇴"
I am from Awdal as well and I fully support my country 🤍❤️🤍❤️💚🤍💚💚 . That’s what we call democracy, we can disagree on something !
Shame of you
@@user-rn8id1ym4u Sam, do you want some DzNutz? 🫵🤣
We are Awdal region and fully support the MOU between Somaliland and Ethiopia.
@@Ismailw19, No! You're from Hargeisa healing from Isaaq tribe, the one who sold off 20 km of Awdal Sea and land to Ethiopia, and now you're pretending to be from Awdal. Have you no shame? How Dare you allow Ethiopians to build a Navy in my land so they can use it against me? Shame on you.
The problem is that Ethiopia is obsessed with irredentism behavior.
glad you knew, we will integrate the SOmaliland and Puntland as part of the new HOA federation, we don't need the Southerner Somalia...let alone work with others, they couldnt stand eachother 🤣🤣🤣
@@AJ-yj5yz the same way Somalia will integrate Ogadenia and Tigray as part of Somalia don't throw stones while living in a glass bottle Somali call this motivation
@@liveyourlifeinlove9273: Unrelated and completely different situations! You dream for Ogaden, but Somaliland and Puntland are coming to join us😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Somaliland isn’t gonna join Somalia NOR Ethiopia.
@@AJ-yj5yzfocus on your raw meat 🍖 instead of dreaming what you can't get
Also, Somalia should provide asylum and recognition to the groups that are fighting in Ethiopia, such as Fano Olaf and many others 🇸🇴
Don't focus on finding gap poleticians tomorrow will say we make deal after death of millions..example deal b/n tplf and pp
U will Blame ur self one day poleticians says we make deal after death of millions example deal b/n tplf and pp
believe me somalia barely can support its own military let alone ethiopian rebellous
@@yoseph3625you sure? You must not know Somalis. We can definitely support it.
@@yoseph3625we ha allies
Thank You Abdulkareem Jama
Abdi Cariim well spoken and true Somailan man, Live for ever.
Anigoo ah nin sacad musa ah ima matashid..ninka itobiyaan kii dulkii inuu kala qaybiyo uu diidanyah adna waxaa kula heshiisay wadankaaga inuu kulag burburiyo...itoobiy waa cadowga ISAAQ iyo umada somaliyeed ..ceeb udhimi balayagay codkii dumarka lihi
Yes!
Abdulkarim Jama is a true son of Somalia and the grandson of the Darwiish!
@@da8660Munafaq geed-ismarisa anigoo Jaamac Siyaada kule yn lga grn waliga ind kmid tahay kuwa ciilan ee cuqdada iyo ncybka melaha ka dhx taaha Somaliland waa qaran calanle adunka cidwaliba ogtahay iny yihiin dad isku filan ciday donaan awood u le iny la saxexdaan heshiisyo caalamiya sidii horeba indhihiinoo shna ula saxexdeen DP World eed siwlba isgu dydeen ind ka hor istgtn ilaa aad ku fashilanteen tabta imika oo kle ilaa carurtu idinku qososho xasad iyo cuqdad iyo ncyb baa wx idiin dhimay idinkoo waliba cidwliba ogty sababta kaliye aad mrwlba ula dglmysn Somaliland iny tahay Xasidnimo idinku dxlysty 😂 waar niyow Somaliland dawlad bay ledahay cidwalba ka jecel wxii u fiicana taqaan cidksta iyo wxksto ku xidhantay qarankoda horumarintiisana way saxeexayaan cid hor istagi kartaana majirto illhy mooye mrkaa sidaa kolba social media comment ugu baroorta sida Naagaha 😂😂
Swear sharmarke is awesome young patriotic debater 🙏🙏
@@libaaxasomaliland1066 Yes, he is 🥰
Aljaseera you need to research how Republic of somaliland and a Italian colony that was a United nation trusteeship joined while somaliland was a independent nation ... 😮.. James you are talking to intelligent people ... Aljaseera do better next time
waxaa hadalmahan is difac somalia turiga aya u tagane ha oyiinaah caar ha imadaano
Absolutely right 👍
Somaliland isn't breakaway state
It's a clan regime
It is a defacto country with defined borders... With it's own currency, passport and government. Ethiopia will b the first country to recognize SOMALILAND ♥️. England is the second and many more African countries are on the waiting list.
Let's see what happens before May 18th Insha-Allaah
@@ayaanleg😂😂😂😂😂
Somalia is one country not working two country really
@@ayaanleg
Can Isaaq (Somaliland) come and cross Oog Town or Sool ?
Why can't they so it ??
Thanks abdulkareem jama.
Well done Mr Abdikarim for stating really as Mogadishu been de-jure legally binding internationally
23:59
Look at this Abyssinian shaking his head out of anger and resentment 😂😂
Highly important programme
Thanks for Aljazera and the guests
Sharmake Ali thank you for telling the truth
Whether Ethiopia will get access to the sea or not somaliland deserves recognition!
There is no harm in having pipe dreams’!
@@user-lb9ql9dq2scoming from a man who forgot what dreams are 30 plus years ago
We will be recognised for sure
Ok come and give them recognition then 🛌🥱stop dreaming kid
The Somalilander was very articulate and based his argument with facts and historical references.
The other guy wanted to talk about tribalism.
Well done.
You should talk about history when you know about history. So I would ask you before you give your so called somalilander clean sheet about historical facts, tell us what were and are the historical relationship between the Somalis and Ethiopians?
He put facts on the ground. The Mogadishu guy was blind about the truth
That is Correct Somaliland isbefore Somalia.
A star is born.
Sharmake lit up the set.
The writing is on the Wall for Zoomalia.
While they wallow in despair and double down on delusion. Africa and the world will move on.
Somaliland and Ethiopia, African solution to Africa problems.
Peace and prosperity beckons
Somaliland patriot
Zoomaliland the land of delulu zionists that need to sue their parents for indoctrination and child abuse. Self hate has no room seek mental help everybody died during the civil war your clan isn't special.
Bravo mr Abdul kreem jama
Sharmarke fast speaker with reality
Sharmake good job walalkay❤
Gaalo jacayl
Can Somalia close the Somaliland embassy in Adis Ababa, if you can find the answer to that question then it’s very clear that Somalia does not have the power to close the Ethiopian Embassy embassy in Hargeisa.
That's ethiopia jobs 😂. But Somaliland uses somalis air space and Somali pass port to go to Europe 😂😂😂😂 UN doesn't recognize poor small tribe
We can control your air and seas!
@@aminaa7909 bs. You can’t even control your own musqul without Amison.
@@The-Heart-Will-Testify since you are that cleaver, isn’t it Ethiopia job to close their Embassy in Hargeisa?
It's not an embassy it's a consulate. Somalia tried to play nice not anymore.
Well said Sharmaarke
SSC IS NOT IDOOOOR GAAL JECEL ABADAN ABIDIIN
Somaliland was a country is a country & will be independent country💪🏿
Change the name to Issaqland; and Nobody has a problem with that; but you don't sell what is Not yours. Hence SSC and Awdal are also independent territories owned and decided by it's own people. And they say their land is Not for sale.
@@saidhashi2856what is ssc your stupidity It is clear today No one will listen to you asqooy
@@saidhashi2856 Somalia will be divided in to 3.
@@fighterforlife5284
And Ethiopia into 7. They don't agree already and all are fighting each other. We Somalis are accustomed to divisions and competing clans. Believe me, the worst is behind us. We can even allow Al-shabab to take over Mogadishu. So what? They are Not worse than Ethiopia.
But Ethiopia will be ugly soon.
Abdikarem legend, thanks you very much
Woow Abdulkareem Jama was very articulate and disproved both of the other panelist's distorted points. Much respect.
Abdikareem Hassan Jama From SSC -Khaatumo . 🇸🇴🐎❤️🇸🇴
Thanks Abdikarim first ,
as a somali community we believe ethopia wants to seprate our homeland and that will not happening any more , the nothern region somlia named somaliland should come on reality 😢I don't even know what to call just one clain going to be nation 😢Stop missleading people and don't waste a time i'm sure Somlia ability will come back under ground , ethopia shoud not get any stability if they try to implemant this MOu and will not secure for future they have to know that
is only Isaaq becoming a Nation lol
@@rodajama7111isaaq keep dreaming government
@@rodajama7111 they are doing over dream and i don't think will come true
Great analysis by Abdikareem of Heritage institute.
Very respectful and informative dialogue. The best panel on the issue so far. Peace and prosperity for Somalis and Ethiopians.
Somaliand and Etiopia congratulations 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎇🎇🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎆🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇sky is the limit 🩵🩷💜💛💞💞💞💞💞
Congrats from Ethiopia.
@@cheatcoddes Thank you
Why can't Somalia make similar agreements with Amhara region and same time recognise Amhara and Tiger regions. Then see how Abiy reacts.
Are you serious, there is nothing call Somali government, wake up and smell the coffee.
You can’t even control Mogadishu
🤣🤣🤣🤣 i hope you're joking. if that failed country - Somalia - ever tries to do such thing then the thousands of Ethiopian troops inside Somalia - who literally safeguards a whole regions of that failed country - will take the appropriate action against the weak government of Somalia and they can literally arrest the non-functioning so called officials of that failed state. the failed government somalia only controls some parts of Mogadishu and they literally don't have a proper army (except clan militias) so they already know that they can't go any further beyond diplomatic fights with Ethiopia.
As an Amhara, we will work with Somalia to safeguard thier sovereignty. Fano does not belive in attacking the internationally recognised state. If Somaliland wants its independence, then that is between them and Somalia. Ethiopia should not involve in other countries matter. It is a problem that was created by the former leaders _
Mengistu failed to control the territorial integrity,
Mezes Zenawi willingly gave away Aseb port,
and now this man is meddling in other neighbouring county.
All of the problems are caused by our own leaders.
Abiy should not be considered as Ethiopians leader rather running in his mind oromos expansionist thoughts. So the problem will only be solved after removing oromos evil mentality from the state of Ethiopia.
😂😂 may be here on social media 😂😂not on the ground the whole world knows somalia doesn't exist on the ground it's a failed clan state that couldn't rebuild ther own country than handed themselves to ther enemies to exploit ther land ther women and became a colony for AMIZOM KENYA ETHIOPIA TURKEY US EU UN 😂😂😂😂😂
Wow, the brother representing Somaliland is so articulate and smart👍👍👍
Thanks prof. Abdulkaream Jaama for making clear what is the rootcause of the problem.
« Somaliland and Ethiopia are showing the world that Africans can work together and by working together they can achieve their goal » Thank you Sharmarke ! 🤍❤️💚 🇪🇹
for the wrong reason and Somalian people say noooooooooooooooo
😂😂
There was not an act of union.
Somalilanders said no to the first Somali constitution.
Beenta lagugu aqriyay ka fiirso nacas
Dr Abeye all he is doing is absolutely an acceptable and injustice. Tplf sold Red Sea(Eritrea). The plan is bringing problems on the region of Africa land. Stopped looking others interest. Appreciate what you have.
Huge respect to Samuel ❤❤
Thanks mr sharmarke
Don’t worry all Somali Elders know the truth.
Agree with sharmake👍Somalia needs to focus improve on its inside issues first
You are absolutely right. Somalia is a 100% failed state they should improve first themselves In order to talk uniting with somaliland again
Average low iq isaaq
Thanks Samuel !
If we are Somalilanders, we welcoming the diplomatic relationship between The Republic of Somaliland and Ethiopia
Define Somaliland ? SSC KHATUMO regional state defeated what is called hargeisa clan militias
Somaliland is the country that gained its independence like most of the African Countries in 1960 with clear borders and a rich history.
The SSC issue is an internal issue.
You can lose a battle but not the war. We don’t mind losing a battle .
It seems that you don’t know Somaliland . Let me educate you .
well said!!!!!!!!!
Ur people are starving . Where did you go? What did you build? Palestine Dhulbahante
There is no Somali Land!!!!
Ssc khaatumo crushed somaliland@@a.bismail6492
No one can harm Somaliland. Viva Somaliland and Ethiopia ❤
Sharmarke Thank you brother you are great man 👍
Abdikariim legend well said words and respectful statements. 🇸🇴
Somaliland's independence will never be lost I love my country somaliland love❤😢
Somaliland is independent country and this deal is win win for both country
Somalialnd 🤝Ethopia.
by killing thousands of people of Laascaanood Region how could you say it
@@rodajama7111 laascanood terrorist how many soldiers did they kill?
Terrorist khatumo
Propaganda of failed state of somalia the terrorist of laascanod how many soldiers they kill .
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Sharmake will be the future Somalikand Ambassador to the UK 🇬🇧 inshAllah
The people of somaliland are overwhelmingly for this deal, we’ve already shared 30 years of reciprocity, trade and cooperation with Ethiopia whilst we’ve experienced nothing but hostility, aggression and vitriol towards us from neighbouring Somalia. For Somalia to cry foul at our every manoeuvre is expected, but that will not stop our progress to achieving full recognition. We will not be held hostage by the 30 year old failed state
It still looks very poor, the world doesn't need another poor tribe claim it to be a state
Charmake, well done 👏 👏👏 Republic of Somaliland 👏👏👏
Iam from somaliland our countre sland peacfully countre 100% we were two nation when somaliand took indepedent Birtish 1960 , somalia 1960 ITlian, Soamaliland break away somalia 1991,
Sxb Waxan jahilnimo wee daftay ee magac uu raadi
hey Abyssinia we have good news in 5 million years there will be sea between Somalia and Abyssinia
Even better news for Faqash land, in 10 Million years there will be peace in Somalia.
We are Ethiopians. You can throw the trashy word "abysinia" back to your colonizer england.
Sharmake is very articulate and brilliant. Abdulkarim on the other hand is on backwards trying to break up Somaliland into tribes the very reason there is no peace in Somalia. I believe this deal is win win deal for both Somaliland and Ethiopia. The way so call Somalia government is behaving may but them back be ruled by UN .
Yes they only know tribes, families, war, divide and rule. He was even referring to 5 families in Somaliland 😂. Dadkan isma fahmayno.
Yeah somaliland is composed of different tribes. The only tribe who want to succeed is isaq. Isaq can go alone. No one wants isaq
Somaliland already conducted referendum for this matter. somaliland people choose to be independent.
From minutes 11:22 to 14:05, Charmake gave a true history lesson to his host who approved it and had to cut charmake's dissertation, fearing that his other guests remain silent for the rest of the show due to lack of countering arguments.
- Host approval :" You have done your history lesson..."
- Charmake with a big "thank you"
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When you join a federal union you cannot pull out when things get tough.
@@ibrahimhassan711 maybe you skipped the truth that charmake said, "the union was never ratified"
@@Nandopros nobody had ever disputed the legitimacy of the union, the people wanted it, citizens of every city wave the blue flag.
That union has far more legitimacy, than a colonial British state.
It’s pure cognitive dissonance, you’re saying the British can carve out an artificial state but the people who live there can’t reclaim it? What is this hypocrisy and delusion. Check yourself
Somaliland representative ❤ fariid , geesi , nin rageed ❤
Zoomalia is not Government its Failed state but Somaliland is strong Sovereign Country and always prevail
Kudus to Samuel and Sharmarke! Prosperity together!
Somaliland is an independent and progressive autonomous region that has been striving for development through regional integration since 1991. Over the years, it has formed exemplary partnerships with neighboring and Middle Eastern countries. The autonomous region is peaceful and has made commendable progress in terms of human rights and democracy. However, its progress is hindered by the failed state of Somalia, which drags it down. Therefore, Somaliland deserves the right to establish itself as an independent state.
Ethiopia deployed peacekeepers to Somalia to stabilize the country and support the government in performing its daily operations.
What do you mean? why are some somalilanders afraid to use their head?? This deal does not benefit somaliland. This is a con deal
Somali land don't even have functioning hospital or clean water.. I think somali land should focus on other things.. it's in shambles right now borama and ssc khatumo state want to break away
It's part and part of Somalia what can you do?
The gentleman from Somalia, is scapegoating the realities on the ground. It’s laughable that he would say that Mogadishu controls the finances of Somaliland😂. If Somalia is so powerful, why didn’t they stop the British MP’s and delegation that arrived in Somaliland just a day ago, 😂🎉Shame on Somalia and their lack of governance for last 40 years.
First, the gentleman, Abdikarim Jama, is from Somaliland or North West Somali. You look to have no idea. He is talking about the simple fact that the Somali Federal government is the only internationally recognized entity that represents Somalia. Therefore, it is part of all world bodies-UN and AU. Therefore, its authority is binding under international law.
Well said Mr Abdikarin
Lets stop fooling ourselves and playing politics.. Somaliland is a more stable, free and independent country than somalia herself...
No, it's not. AIDS is rampant all over SL. Little boys and girls are getting raped. Journalists are getting arrested for speaking the truth. Do you want me to post the facts
@@letswin5007do not transfer your problems to Somaliland. This is happening in your country Somalia.
True💯
SL is not stable. SSC left, Awdal next. Separatists hide behind clans. Nobody wants them. Everybody knows the story behind the SNM and their grandkids.
@@letswin5007
There’s no something called ssc it’s just tribal terrorist who said nonsense and soon they will be erased.
Sharmarke well done
Abdi kariim jama . Well done 👏🏿
Spot on sharmarke you presented facts on the ground. Somaliland is a reality. Fact doesn't care feelings. Bravo.
Simplified facts:
Somaliland (formerly British Somaliland, northern Somalis) willingly joined with Italian Somaliland (southern Somalis) on July 1, 1960, under the Somali blue flag with five stars. The union was akin to how Texas joined the United States in February 25, 1913.
As Shermake has stated, it was an illegal annexation which in the end didn't workout, and Somaliland became a defacto country, independent of the Somali government lacking only recognition.
@@cheatcoddes That is not true. The unity of the Somali Republic at the UN shows that the Northern Somalis of British Somaliland willingly joined the Southern Italian Somaliland without any written conditions or pact with them. I hope you understand that.
Nin rageedkaa Somaliland u hadlaya waan salaamayaa. Sxb guulayso sida ragga ayaad u difaacday dalkaaga.
I am calling on the people of Somalia, who are halal citizens, to prevent this and be careful because if it is not prevented now, there will be another division with negative consequences. I would like to underline that the aim is to destroy Somalia as a whole, and this is the agreement entered into by the foreign enemies and their allies.
True. Failed state of Somalia annexed the republic of Somaliland in 1960 and finally Somaliland restored its sovereignty once it defeated the occupation.
Shame bad mouthing Ramadan Subhanallah
Somali Land is the land of Somalia 🇸🇴..what do you mean Somali land defeated Somalia ?
I know Somalia
@@alimnur3432Only time somalia was all called somalia was after the colonizers left. That was for 5days.
Please came and take your prison idooor gaal jecel abadan aaabadiin tariikh
A failed state annexed you? how bad could you be?!
Viva the Republic of somaliland and Ethiopia, close neighbourhood with strong ties and as citizens of both of these countries we really happy to hear such win-win cooperation between them
Let us clear one thing somaliland (former British protectorate) and took it's independence from Britain June 1960 and somalia (former somali-Italian colonised) they were seperate countries and they will be the later guy is lying 100% and he knew that his words.
Somaliland took it's independence before somalia
Somaliland is a stable and strategic country. Somalia is just jealous and they want us to fail like them.
The world should study the reality on the ground and the history.
You have no history you are just breakaway a few greedy old people who are using policy and fake news to blind 1/4 of its nation and you are one of those who are lied to you need to grow up mentaly before you comment as you did why is it that you want to be elite even in 1000 years we from central Somalia say know wince we are the true Somalis and you should be leashed when you act like this even if tje whole world recoxnize you wake up man we dont and that is what we say
how come you are not recocnized and your people are starving
@@rodajama7111how come you are but your a failed state 💩
Simple,cuz of the international isolation and lack of investments
But still over 30yrs and still standing@rodajama7111
stable ? you have been in war with ssc more than ayear which you have lost
Really appreciate for your clearly giving an explanation the current issue b/w Somalia and Ethiopia.
Ethiopia is very patient. Somalia needs to be careful
Actually the speaker who from somalia is joking 😅
Joking ! Just say am not that intelligent to get his views
How could you tell?
Your English is a work in progress and the subject matter is a little more complicated for you than what your limited vocabulary can help you understand!
Just admit lack of basic thinking capacity is failling you ?
I am from somalia i grew up ethiopia i can speak several domestic languages vast majority of ethiopians against what so called MoU except oromo elements loyal to belsigna party in the past somalis consider ethiopia principle enemy unfortunately PM abiy reopened the wounds!
It is a shame that the journalists didn't press the Ethiopian guest about the recognition issue. The guest said, "Ethiopia will be the second to recognize Somalia next to Taiwan," and the journalist should have asked some follow-up questions:
1. Does Ethiopia recognize Taiwan?
2. Will Ethiopia defend Somaliland militarily after the recognition, should any war brake out?
3. Why did the MOU not get any support from anywhere in the world? Is Ethiopia not being taken seriously on the world stage better than even that failed state of Somalia?
4. Where will Ethiopia stand regarding the border dispute between Somaliland and Puntland?
I think above are some of the questions an experienced diplomatic journalist like James should ask. Nothing "inside story" is discussed seriously in the program apart from what we hear on the news.
Welldone Abdikarim, you represented us well bravo
Long live Somaliland Ethiopian cooperation ❤ you from Kenya 🎉
YES the world is waking up to SOMALILAND 💚⚪️❤️
Wel educated mr abdulkarem we are proud of you 💪
Wow Abdul Karim jama Geesi Darwiish ah Viva Somalia ✌️🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴
Somali government controls a few buildings in Mogadishu is killing me 😅😅😅😅 well said my ethiopian ethiopia 🇪🇹 brother
😂😂😂😂 Somalia is the laughing stock of africa
😂😂😂😂 it is funny how ignorant agree a self fantacy dream about giving opinion rather facts we can say alot more fake ideas and asume that is true somalia stable and working building it' instutations and making progess than ethopia we don't have civil war but rather dealing terrorist each clan in ethopia is trying overthrow thier government.somalia has peacefull election while ethopia dictatorship fail state
Hypothetically speaking, if Somalia recognizes Somaliland as a state, does that mean Somalia can annex Somaliland?
Bro waqoyi galbed aka somaliland is already Somalia can't u tell by the name lol this all breakaway thing is politics and do u think Somalia gov can't take those places if the want ? So No annex is needed between one family but I know a lands Somalia will annex in the future
no, to annex a country the people of the country that is being annexed should vote to join the country that is annexing, which wont happen.
Sharmarke well-done you pointed the true 👏👏,👏👏👏👏👏👏
Good morning aljazeer
As a Somali Ethiopian who hopes that one day Somalis will unite even if not politically but spiritually and economically it pains me to hear Sharmaarke. In Ethiopia we call people like him DABO-DHILIF, DABO-QOODHI and they are not to be trusted.
Sxb somali ethiopia wax la yidhaa ma jiro ee. Somali baan ahay dheh kheyr hele