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  • @Ink_Panther
    @Ink_Panther Рік тому +4

    Love it! “Limited pro-social emotions” how accurte

    • @Badass_Brains
      @Badass_Brains 11 місяців тому

      Haha, I think it's such a nice/cutesy way to frame something that is actually quite terrifying!

  • @rubberbiscuit99
    @rubberbiscuit99 Рік тому +23

    Based on my experience, psychopaths are far more common than the statistics would indicate. Many of them are good at appearing to fit into society. Most people would not know a person is a psychopath unless his mask slips in front of you. It takes time for psychopaths to reveal themselves, and if you do not know the signs or symptoms, you will never have a clue. They are dangerous, so it is good to be educated about the signs so you can avoid them.

    • @le_th_
      @le_th_ Рік тому +5

      I agree. The statistics are so flawed, but you will never get Robert Hare to admit that.
      I mean even most spouses don't know... until the psychopath is ready to kill them for the insurance policy.
      I think one great example is Armie Hammer going on a drug binge and posting videos of himself online just saying and doing deeply disturbing things. He went from "handsome Hollywood darling" to now selling time-shares in the Caribbean. He harmed a number of women who fell for him BEFORE he outed himself quite carelessly, costing him his inheritance, his wife, his child, and his career as the "hottest actor" in Hollywood.
      Little did Hollywood know, the man has been "acting" since toddlerhood. That is why he so good at lying convincingly (read: acting).

    • @specialtwice4975
      @specialtwice4975 Рік тому +2

      I've thought about this a lot. I'd say the actual statistic for psychopaths and sociopaths is higher, yes.
      Think about it, when psychopaths/sociopaths were first coined in the dsm 3 or 4 or whatever, the statistic was this:
      Psychopaths: 1%
      Sociopaths: 4%
      BUT this was done in the 80's/90's! Back when the world population was only 5 billion.
      Now it is 2020's with 8 billion people, and the dsm still says it is STILL that same percentage??
      That doesn't add up, at all.
      What do I think now in 2020's? (based on personal experience and research)
      psychopaths: 2% (1 in 50)
      sociopaths: 5% (1 in 20)

    • @Badass_Brains
      @Badass_Brains 11 місяців тому +2

      I think they also stay hidden in the sense that most are not violent.

    • @rubberbiscuit99
      @rubberbiscuit99 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Badass_Brains True, not too many of the ones I have known anyway are physically violent, although they certainly can go there. They are much more often and more intensely emotionally and mentally violent.

    • @TheTommyData
      @TheTommyData 11 місяців тому +1

      What is the source of your experience?

  • @specialtwice4975
    @specialtwice4975 3 роки тому +18

    21:28
    "Treatment does not make a psychopath worse, but it does not make a psychopath better"
    22:23
    You can't diagnose yourself or somebody else but you can know who to trust and who not to. I have watched many personal experience videos and the motto in that community is "if it doesn't feel right, it usually isn't"
    I recommend UA-cam channels such as:
    -love fraud
    -Sam vaknin (might be spelling that wrong)
    -medcircle
    -dr. Ramani
    Etc

    • @katieandnick4113
      @katieandnick4113 2 роки тому

      Not Dr. Ramani; she’s a psychopath. At least Sam admits he’s one.

  • @specialtwice4975
    @specialtwice4975 3 роки тому +18

    10:02
    How to spot a psychopath:
    1.) Is the person charming? Does everyone in the room like them?
    1.5.) Do they get angry? Call people names? (big sign)
    2.) Do they seem to get bored easily? Do they always have to be doing something? Are they always looking for "the next entertainment"?
    3.) How often do you catch them in a lie? They are pathological liars.
    4.) Do they drink, smoke, or gamble, etc? (addiction)
    5.) Are they promiscuous? Do they struggle to stay faithful? Do they have many romantic partners?
    6.) Are they impulsive?
    7.) Are they irresponsible?
    8.) Do people always leave their life and new people enter? Like a revolving door.
    9.) Do they have a criminal history? (This can also include no criminal history at all, meaning things they are not caught for yet. Small things like shoplifting as a teen or running a red light and not paying the fine in their 20's. They are good at talking out of trouble)
    10.) Do they lack empathy? (I.e. Do they lack care about or for other people?)
    bonus: do they like horror movies, violent video games, or rap music? (usually they like 1 of 3)
    My own research:
    1.) Do they lack 1 or more PRIMARY emotion?
    Primary emotions:
    -happiness
    -sadness
    -fear
    -anger
    -love
    -disgust
    ^ normal people feel ALL 6. I repeat, normal people feel ALL 6. A psychopath or sociopath will be missing 1 or more. They just can't feel it. They don't know what it is and have never felt it, ever.
    2.) Do they seem to have a high iq?
    130 iq or more
    3.) "What is your most embarrassing moment/memory? Tell me it."
    Most psychopaths will pause because they have to make up a fake story because they don't have one.
    Regular people meanwhile will cringe at the thought.
    4.) What makes you happy?
    A regular person will say "spending time with family" "my dog" "my spouse"
    A psychopath will say "drinking/gambling" "food" "s*x" or "money"
    They also may struggle to answer or match your answer, if you answer first.

    • @ehyeh365
      @ehyeh365 Рік тому

      Good but there are unsuccessful psychopaths that do not manage to charm very well. They can still kind of do it in small ways though, like making someone feel special talking to them, caring about them or such. They are good at finding something to work you with.

  • @jennahumphrey1
    @jennahumphrey1 2 роки тому +9

    Wow this is great! I've wondered what distinguished sociopathic-like behavior from core sociopathic expression. You expalined it beautifully, and the way you presented counter-claims and additional information hit almost all of my questions. Wonderfully put together and presented, thank you.

  • @le_th_
    @le_th_ Рік тому +2

    Informative content. Thank you for posting.

  • @eastafrika728
    @eastafrika728 Рік тому +7

    The root of psycopathy is in the baby boy who has anxiety and fear of abandonment by his mother, which caused him to compensate by an obsessive compulsion to organize everything to his advantage and physical satisfaction, ignorant of the existence of others.

    • @kyledawson4535
      @kyledawson4535 Рік тому

      Freud would say that but Freud was a idiot who based everything on his own experience and own theories instead of science.

    • @diane5593
      @diane5593 Рік тому

      So true !!! My brother 😢

    • @truthseekertree
      @truthseekertree Рік тому +2

      I don't think so. I grew up with anxiety and this fear of abandonment and I have ocd, and yet I feed homeless people, I'm very affected by people's suffering, and struggle with more empath type issues. From study seems psychopaths r simply born that way.

    • @ehyeh365
      @ehyeh365 Рік тому +1

      Interesting. Would fit. I wonder if the brain level alterations are “made” then… Good points

    • @SuperKoMa-gir8L
      @SuperKoMa-gir8L 6 місяців тому

      Yeah that's not how psychopathy works. Psychopathy is genetic, their brains are wired differently. I don't know why people keep bringing "Societally" factors when it's well known that psychopathy is highly correlated with genetics and physiology (Such as a smaller amygdala and reduced activity in the pre-frontal cortex)

  • @natalispasovski
    @natalispasovski 2 роки тому +8

    Excellent lecture, very informative. Thank you very much

  • @annchurchill2638
    @annchurchill2638 Рік тому +5

    I spoke with a Mom who said that she had 4 children, and the first two and the last one were just fine, but the third was troubled, from birth. He bullied his siblings and tortured animals. He had no sense of remorse. The Mom seemed healthy to me.

    • @TheKrispyfort
      @TheKrispyfort Рік тому +3

      Any ill health during that pregnancy, or illnesses during #3's early childhood?

    • @specialtwice4975
      @specialtwice4975 Рік тому

      You can be completely normal and have a psychopath son or daughter. For a psychopath, it is genetic (sociopath is genetic/made/upbringing/nurture), all that matters is somebody in the mom's family tree long long ago was a psychopath.
      Means there was a great great great grandpa or a long lost aunt that was a psychopath.

    • @Badass_Brains
      @Badass_Brains 11 місяців тому +1

      How did it affect the relationship amongst the siblings? It sounds like a recipe for a horror movie.

  • @kyledawson4535
    @kyledawson4535 Рік тому +4

    Some issues i find with this presentation and possibly with the studies i how warmness in parenting is measured? Also what imoral behavior is considered? Based on what philosophy?
    Also i find wirh in alot of psychopathic studies they say treatment can work especially for kids, but does it actually work or are you just teaching those that suffer with anti social personality traits how to put on a better mask?

    • @ehyeh365
      @ehyeh365 Рік тому +1

      Mmm development of the cognitive empathy seems to go in the direction of cooperation and fitting in more when an individual devoid of emotional empathy grows up in a good holding and caring environment with adults being adults…

    • @specialtwice4975
      @specialtwice4975 Рік тому +1

      For your second questions, i'd say maybe it might work.
      But I think it just teaches them to wear a mask better.

  • @francesmorrighan368
    @francesmorrighan368 Рік тому +5

    Excellent lecture! I’m a substitute teacher and have a lot of students at my elementary school who exhibit signs of conduct disorders and several who’d hit the marks for psychopathy if they were adults. Their environments at home and in community are largely troubled. With pretty much all of them having had COVID, I’ve been concerned they had changes to their brains from that as well. In one grade, I estimate 8% show very strong symptoms of conduct disorders, which is abnormally high. The info in this talk has given me some insights into how these kids function. Thanks!

    • @skepticalgenious
      @skepticalgenious Рік тому +4

      That is phenomenal... Using psychology to assist your students through understanding what they are experiencing different.

    • @jacekmiksza505
      @jacekmiksza505 Рік тому

      What does COVID have to do with psychopatic / soiopathic behaviour? Unless you wanted but didn't have a courage to say that those who enforced covid restrictions are the prime examples of sociopaths themselves.

    • @truthseekertree
      @truthseekertree Рік тому

      ​​@@jacekmiksza505well two things: 1. Psychopathy, people are born with it, independent of covid.
      2. But covid does cause neurological issues. I have long covid, and have researched alot, covid is actually a neurological disease in some ways. Look into it, research covid and autonomous netvous system, covid psychosis.
      Now, these psychopaths who made covid really designed a f uped disease . Those r examples of psychopaths, ppl who made the virus

  • @SubRosa33
    @SubRosa33 7 місяців тому +1

    Psychotherapy makes them more cunning.

  • @myczycz
    @myczycz Рік тому +1

    Excellent lecture!

  • @specialtwice4975
    @specialtwice4975 3 роки тому +4

    14:35
    -Sociopathy can be treated somewhat. The person has to want to try though. They have to want to do therapy.
    -A psychopath can not be treated. They do what they want.
    It also depends on the person. Some will follow the rules, some won't. This is for both first primary and secondary.
    15:15
    In high school we are taught we all have an I.d, ego, and super ego. That we as humans are all the same. Actually, psychopaths don't have a super ego. Just I.d and ego. Hence why psychopaths don't feel bad.
    (In science this has to do with the amigdela)

    • @mismos00
      @mismos00 2 роки тому +2

      The ID, Ego, Super Ego idea is from Freud and is a helpful heuristic but not generaly accepted as how the brain/self is structured.

  • @dragonclaws9367
    @dragonclaws9367 Рік тому +2

    Just because they lie a lot doesn't mean the lies are well crafted. It would still go to impulsivity. Put out the fires later on.

  • @tm27field
    @tm27field 2 роки тому +1

    Very interesting talk

  • @cphilips66
    @cphilips66 3 роки тому +5

    This seems rather black and white when it comes to parenting. The situations I have seen have two-homes; one home has a parent who is distant emotionally and bribes the kid/s to stop tantruming. The other home has parents that are warm, but hold expectations and won't concede to manipulation. Inevitably, the former contributes to the escalation of problem behaviors and overrides what the other home attempts to do. I think a lot of these kids live in a more grey area and that it does a disservice to place the responsibility on the parents who are being consistently undermined by the child and co-parent.

  • @terenzo50
    @terenzo50 Рік тому +3

    My vote re psychopathy is for pre-natal neurological maldevelopment. For sociopathy, it's horrid parents.

  • @TheKrispyfort
    @TheKrispyfort Рік тому +3

    I often wonder if psychopaths are empathetic masochists who can only experience fear when it's manifest in others, and they've become masochistic-addicted to the pain of fear that they can only experience when generated in another being.
    A kinda exotic equals erotic type thing

    • @specialtwice4975
      @specialtwice4975 Рік тому +1

      Psychopaths do not feel fear, even when you feel fear. They are not "empathetic masochists" as you put it , they ENJOY it.
      It's...not human.
      More closer to sadists.

    • @specialtwice4975
      @specialtwice4975 Рік тому +1

      Psychopaths do not know what fear is, what it feels like, if they did, then i'm sure they could develop some empathy/sadness/a conscience.
      There was a study in Canada, a lady could not feel fear and never ever had, so she volunteered for an experimental trial. (I don't think she was a psychopath though)
      She felt fear for the first time and burst into tears, said she never wanted to feel such a thing again.

    • @Badass_Brains
      @Badass_Brains 11 місяців тому +1

      I've wondered that before too. But they have reduced activity within their pain network. In neurotypical people, the brain activates when we experience pain as well as when we see others in pain - it's like an empathy bridge. Psychopaths, however, lack this empathy bridge so their pain network is not activated.

  • @tumblebugspace
    @tumblebugspace Рік тому +1

    I thought you might say, “…lie in the gut?” Well, it might be interesting to watch anyway.

  • @specialtwice4975
    @specialtwice4975 3 роки тому +5

    19:50
    Sociopathy= anti social personality disorder or "secondary psychopathy". This is about 4% of a country's population. (Created)
    They can have some emotions but this is limited and depends on the person.
    Psychopathy or "primary psychopathy" is 1% of a country's population. (Born)
    They usually have 1 or 2 emotions and the rest is logical thinking.
    Most people will tell you after researching psychopathy, "in the end the terminology doesn't matter".
    Psychopath, sociopath, narcissist, etc.
    In the end, what you call it doesn't matter, it just IS.

    • @mismos00
      @mismos00 2 роки тому

      What are your credentials? Becuase most psycologist do claim they are the same. This guy studies psychopathy today. Most peoples conceptions of psychopathy come from older books written by populizers of the science, who in turn, studied even older books.

    • @imago9059
      @imago9059 2 роки тому

      The terminology actually matters because different treatments work for different things: you can't apply same treatment that is for BPD to psychopathy.

    • @ThegreekchickLouisiana
      @ThegreekchickLouisiana 2 роки тому

      @@imago9059 actually, if I am not mistaken, the general concept of "treatment" would be the exact same.. whether borderline or psychopathic, to become a better you (or treat yourself), you would identify what behaviors you have that are problematic to you or those around you, and stop doing those.
      Ps- you do not "treat" personality disorders.

    • @KellenAdair
      @KellenAdair 10 місяців тому

      I think the numbers are much lower than we know. ... And unless they drop their masks, most people don't even 1:08:16 know for decades.
      Only intuition gave me a hazy clue. ... Yet, I could sense DTJ's psychopathy from the very beginning of his campaign.
      Both my Rt.W.A. and Fascist Wht. Nationalist brothers exhibit all the signs and symptoms.
      The "Bully-vIctim" grew up Conduct Disorderd!

    • @KellenAdair
      @KellenAdair 10 місяців тому

      Oops, much higher numbers ... In today's culture and worldwide!
      Especially, with all the entitled Cultists! Not that all Psychopaths are Narcs.
      It'd be interesting to have much better stats on that extremely dangerous 😮 phenomenon!

  • @demoscratos4577
    @demoscratos4577 2 роки тому +2

    "Psychopath" is just an evolutionary advantage trait.

    • @NT-qd2rs
      @NT-qd2rs 2 роки тому +4

      Not really, empathy is. Psychopaths are not really good in long-term consideration, according to the rate of them in prison for different reasons. Not very adaptive, huh?

    • @odd8716
      @odd8716 2 роки тому +4

      It was actually an evolutionary disadvantage, but it depends on how you see what an advantage is. If you are nihilistic which I assume most psychopaths have a concept of in their view of the world, they will not care of their traits. But if you base off of survival, psychopaths are usually mauled both in the physical or "primitive" state and an artificial society. For example, Psychopaths in the stone age would usually not detect any predators or would simply not care for a predatory response to occur or what was from fear. Because Psychopaths have a removed ability of fear this hinders their ability to live a long life.
      But I will say, that psychopathic traits can sometimes give you an advantage. Fearlessness in some instances can be good. But it's not so black and white on how you framed it. I believe it comes down to the type of person you are as a psychopath, just like a neurotypical and how they might be.

    • @tone3560
      @tone3560 2 роки тому +3

      @@NT-qd2rs "lack empathy" Lack emotional empathy yes....but a high level of cognitive empathy can create a superficial level of understanding of emotional empathy to fake it when needed.

    • @tone3560
      @tone3560 2 роки тому +4

      @@odd8716 Fearless is another myth of psychopathy... smaller amygdala means they are less "stimulated" by threat responses or fear but not absent therefore fearless is a myth. Once again a continuum but not fearless just having the innate ability to have high level of emotional control.

    • @odd8716
      @odd8716 2 роки тому

      @@tone3560 irrelevant, my point still stands.

  • @TheKrispyfort
    @TheKrispyfort Рік тому +1

    Please say his research partner's name is Jeckel

  • @specialtwice4975
    @specialtwice4975 3 роки тому +1

    Books:
    -"psychopath free" by Jackson Mackenzie
    -"the sociopath next door" by Martha stout (this is like the holy grail of aspd)
    - the book mentioned in the video
    -"without conscious" and "snakes in suits" by Robert Hare
    UA-cam channels:
    -love fraud
    -Sam vaknin (might be spelling that wrong)
    -medcircle
    -dr. Ramani
    Etc

  • @specialtwice4975
    @specialtwice4975 3 роки тому +3

    Early childhood? Yes, and no.
    Sociopathy or secondary psychopathy is mainly nurture based but can also have some genetic to it. However mainly it is nurture, or well, lack there of.
    Psychopathy or first psychopathy is completely genetic. It is a part of who the person is. There is no chance of change because it is like someone with a permanent scar. It just IS, permanently.

  • @davidwilkie9551
    @davidwilkie9551 2 роки тому +1

    When studying biological phenomena in the context of QM-TIME sync-duration AM-FM time-timing memory, ie probabilistic correlations in Actuality, the concept of a sustained sequence of functional e-Pi-i Reciproction-recirculation reference-framing, of time-timing re-evolution, ie a single "thread" along a "linear-scalar" conglomeration of reproductive development that is "natural technology", from nodal-vibrational emitter-receiver log-antilog interference assemblies in temporal sequences, to "living Organisms", it becomes apparent that the Absolute Zero-infinity probabilistic correlations of resonance bonding proportioning are confined in this Timing-Spacing matrix by free-floating nothing in No-thing except pure-math relative-timing condensation holography.
    To confirm your thoughts, the real-time realization of living beings operate in cyclical pulse-evolution of biological DNA and RNA histories of sequential chemical memory, all e-Pi-i functional motion components.
    Our actual childhood has its Origin in QM-TIMESPACE Perspective Principle.., so Psyche and Psychopathic behaviour is apparently a derivative of infinite-eternal Return to the Mean Form of Function, i-reflection QM-TIME Containment. Mathematically speaking.

  • @specialtwice4975
    @specialtwice4975 3 роки тому +6

    1:15
    Okay, first off. Psychopaths will not be sad. Psychopaths are NEVER sad.
    Sociopaths, maybe. However, this sadness will not last long.
    A psychopath may not like being there, but he won't be sad about it. He (or she) will not cry.
    They will mainly be angry and frustrated, like a teen who has detention, and just does not want to be there.

    • @tone3560
      @tone3560 2 роки тому

      Thats a myth...they dont lack tear ducts and it is a continuum there isnt one set of traits and most what they classify are subjective at best in your previous posts. Mri scanner is the only diagnosable way to verify psychopathy....psychopathy is conducive to end up being in prison or having the diagnose of "antisocial personality disorder" but there are plenty of "white collar" psychopaths that are not in prison and function fine in society.

    • @ehyeh365
      @ehyeh365 Рік тому +1

      Maybe fake sadness to get what they want?

  • @sarahcouture24
    @sarahcouture24 Рік тому +3

    Evoked harsher parenting… 😒
    wait, which one is the kid and which one is the grown up? whos job is it to act like an adult? Who is supposed to demonstrate non-CU behaviors?
    Oh wait, it’s the parents job!
    …Evokes harsher parenting lol …
    If you can’t model kind, empathic, pro-social behavior yourself in the face of stress, how can you expect your child to?

    • @cathykrueger4899
      @cathykrueger4899 Рік тому +1

      It’s a little more complicated than that. Relationships are reciprocal.

    • @DivineLightPaladin
      @DivineLightPaladin Рік тому +2

      ​@@cathykrueger4899 and your child doesn't just grow up "intending to upset YOU" like I've heard from so many parents .

  • @Silly.Old.Sisyphus
    @Silly.Old.Sisyphus 3 роки тому +4

    who but an unempathetic shallow affect psycho would cheerfully and casually announce to the whole world that his toddler daughter has temper tantrums, and even joke about it, oblivious to the thought that one day someone could use this video to bully or humiliate or ridicule her? a caring parent with empathy would at least try to be on her side and sympathise with her instead of making fun of her in public.

  • @lisaliu7788
    @lisaliu7788 Рік тому +1

    You are describing ccp red soldier's and their kids

  • @dangumbo4835
    @dangumbo4835 3 роки тому +4

    He said that ASPD is different from psychopathy. The DSM 5 disagrees. Psychopathy is a subset of ASPD, according to the DSM so he's the one spreading myths. Maybe he is confusing anti social behaviour with antisocial personality...

    • @patrickcooper7629
      @patrickcooper7629 2 роки тому +4

      I suspect a lot of psychologists and psychiatrists have antisocial traits. I can understand why they are hesitant to expand research into the disturbing prevlance of subtle psychopathy among successful "leaders"

  • @ronlentjes2739
    @ronlentjes2739 Рік тому

    Root 1. TV $brain washing$.
    Root 2. See Root 1.
    Root 3. See Root 2.