Excellent video!!! Felt like I was listening to a podcast, I almost forgot the video was so long actually. Once I pressed play and skipped to 9:30 like a timestamp below suggested, time just flew by.
I wish I knew why my neighbors who I was friends with for 20 years keeps slandering me and breaking into my home stealing my stuff- and co-opting my other friends. I wonder if it’s psychopathy .
Not to mention... I wanted to ask if Jon Ronson's hypothesis that the more wealth and power a person accrues under capitalism, the more likely they are to have an increased number of psychopathic traits....
the lower income someone is during childhood the higher likelihood they show psychopathic traits but the higher someone is on the boardroom the higher the likelihood they show psychopathic traits
Bryan's questions are just fantastic. I also love how science-based this is, this is about as far way from Meyer's-Briggs/Jungian/Freudian nonsense as you can get. This is really good science (although in this case science is the bearer of a lot of bad news).
How are young people tested for ADHD? Many of the ADHD symptoms would exacerbate the behaviors of adolescents, young adults, and adults. The program mentioned at the end sounds valuable and helpful. I hope it's still being used today. This presentation was excellent. Thanks.
Complete lack of it is bad, just like complete excess of it is bad. Balance is key! You can have logical structure of morals, if that's easier for you to comprehend
Morals need to be INFORMED by emotions, not driven by them. Some emotional consideration is necessary because it strengthens our belief that what we're doing is right; the emotion affirms the logic, making it more powerful. Also, we can't help but have emotions as a consideration; we're emotional creatures and we can't turn them off. Do you have a psychopathic brain? If so, you're also a narcissist, which means you'll never understand why empathy and emotions are good things both intrinsically and instrumentally to we feelers. You need to learn how to fake empathy and emotions, but getting good at it takes intense patience and study of people who seem so stupid. It'll take patience; as a psychopath, you need to learn it to get ahead. When passion drives you, let reason take the reins" Ben Franklin
I'm a little confused about the boy killer as the example of a psychopath because his enthusiastic taunting was definitely a display of emotional interest. He was clearly hoping to get an emotional reaction out of his victims' families and he was excited for it. That isn't someone with deadened emotions, and psychopathy isn't defined by violence. He looks more like a narcissist which would also make sense considering his demographic. His violence was likely regarding his status insecurity rather than for fun. Most of his victims were not white.
Adaptive behaviour using what you have available in a Universe that is a time delayed Mirror Test of probability integration, (academic avoidance of Actuality), self defence against your approximate mirror image, (we are individually unique in uniqueness), means that if it is a matter of survival in continuity, ie collective morality, eliminating the risk to Society in Common is one reason for pre-emptive "counter attack". In other words, "every case is different" and probable solutions are another aspect of "Precision is not Accuracy". (Invidious choices)
So, question to any psycopath out there, if you can't feel some emotions, have you ever accidentally acted in a way to avoid consequences for feeling an emotion, for example, feeling sad and accidentally finding a different emotion like regret Example not being sad for a situation because you don't like people helping you and accidentally faking regret because you worded it wrong? How often do you find new emotions and are there emotions you noticed any that doesn't have a word associated with it?
How the hell could a psychopath have noticed emotions that have no words attached to them? They have enough trouble with the emotions non-psychopaths display. They'd notice new behavior, not new emotions, and if they're smart they'll try to comprehend it. I think what you're trying to ask is if any psychopath screwed up faking emotion and unintentionally made non-psychopaths think they were feeling something they're not?
Really wanna watch this entire talk. But had to mention, after just popping in listening for 3 secs. The idea that psychopaths might feel a sense of loyalty towards e.g. family, sounds widely inaccurate to me after being involved with multiple psychopaths intimately. The core of psychopathy is being loyal to one person only in the end of the day, and that is themselves. In my experience they don't have the ability to even conceptualize the idea of loyalty for anyone other then themselves. What may look as loyalty to neuro-typical individuals is probably most often convenience, they would even throw their own kids before the bus if thats more "convenient" though. No loyalty, that defines psychopathy.
I'd like to see the hours you've put in working in clinical research, seems like you've encountered abusive people and wouldn't know if you met a benevolent psychopath.
@@word_salad_bingo Nice alias. Ever drank "dry water"? Maybe do some clinical research into it, sounds you have a lot of time and its a great beverage along wordsalad they say!!
@@Moonlightthroughdarkness no, actually. Sounds like you waste your life obsessing over people who hurt you instead of living your life. I don't spend my time learning silly terminology that doesn't aid me in achieving my goals, thanks. And as for the 'alias', thanks- I assume your account name is the same as your given name. Rationality doesn't seem to be of interest to you, go back to whining.
@@word_salad_bingo there is no scientific evidence for "benevolent" psychopathy. The only people coining terms like this are suffering from a cluster B personality disorder or are psychopaths. I'm sorry it sounds so nice doesn't it? If you yourself are dealing with psychopathic thoughts or character traits then this does not mean you are have a psychopathic character overall those are not the same thing. Note people who support your ideas like James Fallon, are selfdeclared psychopaths. Well established researchers on psychopathy have already refuted the idea he is a psychopath because he does not meet the criteria of one. Yes psychopathy has a spectrum too, however caring for others like neurotypical humans do, its just not a thing for someone who really meets the criteria.
@@word_salad_bingo There is just no scientific evidence for "benevolent" psychopathy. The only people coining terms like this are suffering from a cluster B personality disorder or are psychopaths. I'm sorry it sounds so nice doesn't it? If you yourself are dealing with psychopathic thoughts or character traits then this does not mean you have a psychopathic character overal those are not the same thing. Note people who support your ideas like James Fallon, are selfdeclared psychopaths. Well established researchers on psychopathy have already refuted the idea he is a psychopath because he does not meet the criteria of one. Yes psychopathy has a spectrum too, however caring for others like neurotypical humans do, its just not an option for someone who meets the criteria. Ps. Attachment en enjoying the benefits of someones company do not equalize love for neurotypical people. Theres a clue.
I'm curious about the young man wearing the "killer" t-shirt. Did he ever have an MRI that measured the size of his Amygdala? Did he have an Amygdala? The circumstances surrounding his history are essential. What if his Amygdala was "normally" sized? Also, what causes a small amygdala? Perhaps there was a lack of some nutrients or minerals during his mother's pregnancy. It's almost shocking that many professionals today believe that psychopathology is caused by severe childhood trauma.
Dare I make this comment - I do feel a tad fearful. Here goes; I wonder how many psychopaths enter the military. (Feel free to remove if inappropriate.)
It really quite simple! All animals are comprised of a wide variety of species. Dogs (collies vs Rottweilers), birds (parrots vs raptors), fish (sharks vs dolphins). Those species are DIFFERENT GENETICALLY (from birth). Well humans also are comprised of genetically different species . .empaths vs psychopaths. IT’S that simple and that complex!
Every human being in the planet experience fear, no exceptions..put a psychopath in a closed cage with a hungry lion and see what happens lol..psychology needs alot of improvement and science does not back you up.
Primary Psychopathy is genetic, “born bad” as they say. Secondary Psychopathy is a trauma response. Primary Psychopaths don’t experience fear(allegedly) while Secondary Psychopaths experience significant anxiety levels. Here’s my take on it. Primary Psychopaths experience fear and anxiety, they merely have the power to suppress and control it in distressing situations. Secondary Psychopaths are significantly more impulsive and emotional, therefore.. control over emotions, including anxiety, is lacking.
Primary psychopaths have zero fear zero anxiety, but they CAN feel something kinda like it: adrenaline. Check their autonomic arousal. There is no such thing as a secondary psychopathy, not surrounding the issue of whether they experience fear or just adrenaline.
Identify/spot them yourself (but don't tell them that, never tell them) and then avoid/leave. (Cut all contact and drop them like an evil stepmother you never wanna see ever again. Never ever) That is the ONLY way. You cannot "win" against a psychopath because they do not care. They do not share either. Psychopaths only use people to fill their own selfish needs. One more thing? If you do try to stay, which I have, they will make it so you never get your needs met. Emotional, physical, etc, and you will leave anyways OR be dumped. "You can't have it! You don't matter! 😝 Ha HA ha HA ha! Hahahahaha!😂😂😂"
I forgot to add that that is a romantic partner/friend/family member. (Whichever) For a psychopathic boss, document, document, document. Heck, even for the psychopathic spouse too. You want physical proof. Texts, emails, etc. If the psychopath leaves you alone though, then it is best to leave. Some people have left their jobs because of a bad boss. It depends on your situation/decision.
@@specialtwice4975Most psychopaths wouldn't get off on torturing you. You are not interesting to a psychopath. It sounds like you're dealing with a malignant narcissist with some sociopathic traits. A psychopath would not battle with you (you mention winning). They'd interact as needed and move on, definitely no emotional back-and-forth. All psychopaths are narcissists, not all narcissists are psychopaths.
The most disturbing part of this video was the glee and enthusiasm in the voice of the presenter as she described animal experiments involving starvation, mental torture and invasive brain surgery. Maybe this was meant as a demonstration of what zero empathy looks like in a person.
Society ha a right to protect itself. Detention serves this purpose. The problem is how do we make detention less inhumane? In the USA prisons are far far to inhumane.
If I had made it to the live Q&A I wanted to ask if psychopathy manifests differently between cis male and female people due to social pressures on female presenting people to be more "service" oriented.
Not really, one thing about psychopaths compared to most other psychiatric disorders is that their behavior is incredibly stable, in other words they don't really react to any sort of socialization.
Stop calling the Hare PCL-R a test like it's a "pop quiz". It's an assessment following an extensive personal interview of two hours or more with even more time spent corroborating the data.
One of the best panels. This topic is soooo fascinating and so much more complex than what we see in the movies.
starts at 9:30
The hero we need lol
@@sammyparadero8762 Even 2 Years on lol
Excellent video!!! Felt like I was listening to a podcast, I almost forgot the video was so long actually. Once I pressed play and skipped to 9:30 like a timestamp below suggested, time just flew by.
I love listening to Bryan talk. He is so eloquent and he explains things so well.
I wish I knew why my neighbors who I was friends with for 20 years keeps slandering me and breaking into my home stealing my stuff- and co-opting my other friends. I wonder if it’s psychopathy .
Not to mention... I wanted to ask if Jon Ronson's hypothesis that the more wealth and power a person accrues under capitalism, the more likely they are to have an increased number of psychopathic traits....
What a cliche
I don’t know, seems pretty obvious when you look at those in power
the lower income someone is during childhood the higher likelihood they show psychopathic traits but the higher someone is on the boardroom the higher the likelihood they show psychopathic traits
Bryan's questions are just fantastic. I also love how science-based this is, this is about as far way from Meyer's-Briggs/Jungian/Freudian nonsense as you can get. This is really good science (although in this case science is the bearer of a lot of bad news).
How are young people tested for ADHD? Many of the ADHD symptoms would exacerbate the behaviors of adolescents, young adults, and adults. The program mentioned at the end sounds valuable and helpful. I hope it's still being used today. This presentation was excellent. Thanks.
why is lack of empathy a bad thing?
is morals driven by emotions? can't i have my own principles without it?
Lack of feelings/emotions/empathy/compassion equates to an unhappy life. Emotional balance is best. 💔
Complete lack of it is bad, just like complete excess of it is bad. Balance is key!
You can have logical structure of morals, if that's easier for you to comprehend
Morals need to be INFORMED by emotions, not driven by them. Some emotional consideration is necessary because it strengthens our belief that what we're doing is right; the emotion affirms the logic, making it more powerful. Also, we can't help but have emotions as a consideration; we're emotional creatures and we can't turn them off.
Do you have a psychopathic brain? If so, you're also a narcissist, which means you'll never understand why empathy and emotions are good things both intrinsically and instrumentally to we feelers. You need to learn how to fake empathy and emotions, but getting good at it takes intense patience and study of people who seem so stupid. It'll take patience; as a psychopath, you need to learn it to get ahead.
When passion drives you, let reason take the reins" Ben Franklin
Feeling empathy for others can be a protection against the bad motivations of a business partner, for example.
I'm a little confused about the boy killer as the example of a psychopath because his enthusiastic taunting was definitely a display of emotional interest. He was clearly hoping to get an emotional reaction out of his victims' families and he was excited for it. That isn't someone with deadened emotions, and psychopathy isn't defined by violence. He looks more like a narcissist which would also make sense considering his demographic. His violence was likely regarding his status insecurity rather than for fun. Most of his victims were not white.
Psychopathy is in no way a disorder of general unemotionality.
All psychopaths are narcissists.
Oh I'm so glad they uploaded it !!!
Adaptive behaviour using what you have available in a Universe that is a time delayed Mirror Test of probability integration, (academic avoidance of Actuality), self defence against your approximate mirror image, (we are individually unique in uniqueness), means that if it is a matter of survival in continuity, ie collective morality, eliminating the risk to Society in Common is one reason for pre-emptive "counter attack".
In other words, "every case is different" and probable solutions are another aspect of "Precision is not Accuracy". (Invidious choices)
So, question to any psycopath out there, if you can't feel some emotions, have you ever accidentally acted in a way to avoid consequences for feeling an emotion, for example, feeling sad and accidentally finding a different emotion like regret Example not being sad for a situation because you don't like people helping you and accidentally faking regret because you worded it wrong? How often do you find new emotions and are there emotions you noticed any that doesn't have a word associated with it?
How the hell could a psychopath have noticed emotions that have no words attached to them? They have enough trouble with the emotions non-psychopaths display. They'd notice new behavior, not new emotions, and if they're smart they'll try to comprehend it.
I think what you're trying to ask is if any psychopath screwed up faking emotion and unintentionally made non-psychopaths think they were feeling something they're not?
Tarantulas aren’t dangerous for the record- I used to have a pet tarantula named George as a teenager.
Really wanna watch this entire talk. But had to mention, after just popping in listening for 3 secs. The idea that psychopaths might feel a sense of loyalty towards e.g. family, sounds widely inaccurate to me after being involved with multiple psychopaths intimately. The core of psychopathy is being loyal to one person only in the end of the day, and that is themselves. In my experience they don't have the ability to even conceptualize the idea of loyalty for anyone other then themselves. What may look as loyalty to neuro-typical individuals is probably most often convenience, they would even throw their own kids before the bus if thats more "convenient" though. No loyalty, that defines psychopathy.
I'd like to see the hours you've put in working in clinical research, seems like you've encountered abusive people and wouldn't know if you met a benevolent psychopath.
@@word_salad_bingo Nice alias. Ever drank "dry water"? Maybe do some clinical research into it, sounds you have a lot of time and its a great beverage along wordsalad they say!!
@@Moonlightthroughdarkness no, actually. Sounds like you waste your life obsessing over people who hurt you instead of living your life.
I don't spend my time learning silly terminology that doesn't aid me in achieving my goals, thanks.
And as for the 'alias', thanks- I assume your account name is the same as your given name. Rationality doesn't seem to be of interest to you, go back to whining.
@@word_salad_bingo there is no scientific evidence for "benevolent" psychopathy. The only people coining terms like this are suffering from a cluster B personality disorder or are psychopaths. I'm sorry it sounds so nice doesn't it? If you yourself are dealing with psychopathic thoughts or character traits then this does not mean you are have a psychopathic character overall those are not the same thing. Note people who support your ideas like James Fallon, are selfdeclared psychopaths. Well established researchers on psychopathy have already refuted the idea he is a psychopath because he does not meet the criteria of one. Yes psychopathy has a spectrum too, however caring for others like neurotypical humans do, its just not a thing for someone who really meets the criteria.
@@word_salad_bingo There is just no scientific evidence for "benevolent" psychopathy. The only people coining terms like this are suffering from a cluster B personality disorder or are psychopaths. I'm sorry it sounds so nice doesn't it? If you yourself are dealing with psychopathic thoughts or character traits then this does not mean you have a psychopathic character overal those are not the same thing. Note people who support your ideas like James Fallon, are selfdeclared psychopaths. Well established researchers on psychopathy have already refuted the idea he is a psychopath because he does not meet the criteria of one. Yes psychopathy has a spectrum too, however caring for others like neurotypical humans do, its just not an option for someone who meets the criteria. Ps. Attachment en enjoying the benefits of someones company do not equalize love for neurotypical people. Theres a clue.
I'm curious about the young man wearing the "killer" t-shirt. Did he ever have an MRI that measured the size of his Amygdala? Did he have an Amygdala? The circumstances surrounding his history are essential. What if his Amygdala was "normally" sized? Also, what causes a small amygdala? Perhaps there was a lack of some nutrients or minerals during his mother's pregnancy.
It's almost shocking that many professionals today believe that psychopathology is caused by severe childhood trauma.
Dare I make this comment - I do feel a tad fearful. Here goes; I wonder how many psychopaths enter the military. (Feel free to remove if inappropriate.)
It really quite simple! All animals are comprised of a wide variety of species. Dogs (collies vs Rottweilers), birds (parrots vs raptors), fish (sharks vs dolphins). Those species are DIFFERENT GENETICALLY (from birth). Well humans also are comprised of genetically different species . .empaths vs psychopaths. IT’S that simple and that complex!
Besides the fish and bird example you're technically wrong.
Christ Almighty LET THE GUEST TALK!!!!
Every human being in the planet experience fear, no exceptions..put a psychopath in a closed cage with a hungry lion and see what happens lol..psychology needs alot of improvement and science does not back you up.
Primary Psychopathy is genetic, “born bad” as they say. Secondary Psychopathy is a trauma response. Primary Psychopaths don’t experience fear(allegedly) while Secondary Psychopaths experience significant anxiety levels. Here’s my take on it. Primary Psychopaths experience fear and anxiety, they merely have the power to suppress and control it in distressing situations. Secondary Psychopaths are significantly more impulsive and emotional, therefore.. control over emotions, including anxiety, is lacking.
Primary psychopaths have zero fear zero anxiety, but they CAN feel something kinda like it: adrenaline. Check their autonomic arousal.
There is no such thing as a secondary psychopathy, not surrounding the issue of whether they experience fear or just adrenaline.
Whos here to learn about themselves?
Illuminating stuff.
How are you people in my subscription? 😅
The sound system in this presentation is terrible.
Leticia Stauch and Lori Daybell? Thank you for this information.
***** Q&A I wanted to ask: How can one defend himself from a psychopath at best ??? I mean few good tips may be realy helpful for a future situation.
Identify/spot them yourself (but don't tell them that, never tell them) and then avoid/leave. (Cut all contact and drop them like an evil stepmother you never wanna see ever again. Never ever)
That is the ONLY way.
You cannot "win" against a psychopath because they do not care. They do not share either. Psychopaths only use people to fill their own selfish needs.
One more thing? If you do try to stay, which I have, they will make it so you never get your needs met. Emotional, physical, etc, and you will leave anyways OR be dumped.
"You can't have it! You don't matter! 😝
Ha HA ha HA ha!
Hahahahaha!😂😂😂"
I forgot to add that that is a romantic partner/friend/family member. (Whichever)
For a psychopathic boss, document, document, document.
Heck, even for the psychopathic spouse too.
You want physical proof. Texts, emails, etc.
If the psychopath leaves you alone though, then it is best to leave.
Some people have left their jobs because of a bad boss.
It depends on your situation/decision.
we are not monsters.. just be real and respect and we'll do the same.
@@specialtwice4975Most psychopaths wouldn't get off on torturing you. You are not interesting to a psychopath. It sounds like you're dealing with a malignant narcissist with some sociopathic traits.
A psychopath would not battle with you (you mention winning). They'd interact as needed and move on, definitely no emotional back-and-forth. All psychopaths are narcissists, not all narcissists are psychopaths.
@@iijojoiithese people don't even realize that they don't know what a psychopath is.
So the questions is, what causes the disfunction in the amygdala?
They answered first grade is genetic factors and untreatable and second grade is environmental and can be regulated if treated early in childhood
Speaking of psychopaths in public Fauci? Collins? Walensky?
The most disturbing part of this video was the glee and enthusiasm in the voice of the presenter as she described animal experiments involving starvation, mental torture and invasive brain surgery. Maybe this was meant as a demonstration of what zero empathy looks like in a person.
HAHA 😂 100%
Poisoning or stabbing?
Society ha a right to protect itself. Detention serves this purpose. The problem is how do we make detention less inhumane? In the USA prisons are far far to inhumane.
If I had made it to the live Q&A I wanted to ask if psychopathy manifests differently between cis male and female people due to social pressures on female presenting people to be more "service" oriented.
Not really, one thing about psychopaths compared to most other psychiatric disorders is that their behavior is incredibly stable, in other words they don't really react to any sort of socialization.
@@InstantCharisma you mean domestication?
Psychopaths don't care what sex they are and would only identify a certain way to placate the non-psychopaths.
The smart ones know they need to fake responses and socialize somewhat.
Jesus GET TO THE GUEST
If i laughed at a "total kodak moment", is that bad? 😂
Less bullshit talk and more expertise.
Stop calling the Hare PCL-R a test like it's a "pop quiz". It's an assessment following an extensive personal interview of two hours or more with even more time spent corroborating the data.
Poor rat…
right?
You call this work