US Climate Migrations: Are Cities Ready?

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  • US climate migrations have already begun. How bad will it get? What kinds of disasters are we facing? Where are the best and worst places to be, and-no matter where you live-what can you do to prepare for the changes? All in this episode. Have a look!
    Edenicity merges permaculture and urbanism so that cities can provide a vastly higher quality of life while healing the planet. Learn more at / @edenicity
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    David R. Montgomery, Dirt: The Erosion of Civilizations (2012) amzn.to/3U1p1ff
    Corbett and Corbett, Designing Sustainable Communities: Learning From Village Homes Island Press (December 1, 1999) amzn.to/3WvwiGZ
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    UA-cam stills and book covers by the creators cited above. Images by Kev Polk, as cited above, public domain, or courtesy of Pexels.
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  • @edenicity
    @edenicity  2 місяці тому +14

    ALL LINKS mentioned in video ARE HERE
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    Al Shaw, Abrahm Lustgarten, ProPublica, and Jeremy W. Goldsmith, New Climate Maps Show a Transformed United States, Special to ProPublica, September 15, 2020. projects.propublica.org/climate-migration/
    Abrahm Lustgarten, Climate Change Will Force a New American Migration, ProPublica, September 15, 2020. www.propublica.org/article/climate-change-will-force-a-new-american-migration
    Chi Xu (徐驰), Timothy A. Kohler, Timothy M. Lenton,, Jens-Christian Svenning, and Marten Scheffer, Future of the human climate niche, PNAS, v.117 #21, pp. 11350-11355, (May 26, 2020) www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1910114117
    Andrew Lambert, A. Gannet Hallar, Maria Garcia, Courtenay Strong, Elisabeth Andrews, Jenny L. Hand, Dust Impacts of Rapid Agricultural Expansion on the Great Plains, Geophysical Research Letters, Oct 12, 2020. doi.org/10.1029/2020GL090347
    www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/are-great-plains-headed-another-dust-bowl-180976117/
    www.scientificamerican.com/article/climate-change-threatens-second-dust-bowl/
    R. Barbero et al, Climate change presents increased potential for very large fires in the contiguous United States, International Journal of Wildland Fire 24(7) 892-899 (16 July 2015) doi.org/10.1071/WF15083
    US Department of Energy Office of Science, High and dry, A new supercomputer drought model projects dry times ahead for much of the nation, especially the Midwest. ACSR Discovery (February 2023) ascr-discovery.org/2023/02/high-and-dry/
    Gamelin, B.L., Feinstein, J., Wang, J. et al. Projected U.S. drought extremes through the twenty-first century with vapor pressure deficit. Sci Rep 12, 8615 (2022). doi.org/10.1038/s41598-022-12516-7
    www.census.gov/library/visualizations/2024/comm/percent-change-county-population.html
    www.census.gov/topics/population/migration/guidance/state-to-state-migration-flows.html
    www.census.gov/topics/population/migration/guidance/metro-to-metro-migration-flows.html
    www.nbcnews.com/science/environment/dust-storms-killed-hundreds-are-growing-problem-parts-us-rcna82889
    planetschooling.com/bill-mollisons-classic-pamphlets/
    Books mentioned
    (Note: as an Amazon Affiliate, I may earn commissions, at no added cost to you, for purchases made through the following links)
    David R. Montgomery, Dirt: The Erosion of Civilizations (2012) amzn.to/3U1p1ff
    Corbett and Corbett, Designing Sustainable Communities: Learning From Village Homes Island Press (December 1, 1999) amzn.to/3WvwiGZ

    • @doridore1234
      @doridore1234 2 місяці тому +2

      This is the level of academic and intellectual integrity that is so rare to see on UA-cam. Thank you so much for sharing these sources.

  • @wolfgang1667
    @wolfgang1667 4 місяці тому +504

    I’ve been baffled by the mass migration to Florida and Texas over the past few years. Quite possibly some of the least advantageous places to establish residence given the way things are trending.

    • @burkles4456
      @burkles4456 2 місяці тому +56

      Doesn’t bother me. Let these snow birds keep flocking 😂
      I’ll be long gone in the north.

    • @pcatful
      @pcatful 2 місяці тому +21

      Or Maricopa County Arizona. I visited there 45 years ago and I thought I might die before I got out THEN--and they say it is getting hotter and more humid.

    • @KailuaChick
      @KailuaChick 2 місяці тому +26

      Same. I recently moved from FL to NC. My hometown was wiped out in Hurricane Ian. It’s absolutely baffling why people keep moving down there, especially with so many insurance companies pulling out.

    • @msb4838
      @msb4838 2 місяці тому +21

      Would like to see an analysis on the overlap between those moving and those who are climate sceptics.

    • @ChristianRobertRamirez
      @ChristianRobertRamirez 2 місяці тому +27

      People are moving there because the overall cost of living is cheaper and it's easier to buy a home. Young people are moving to party cities like Miami or Austin to party since they can't own a home. And most people would rather deal with heat and humidity over freezing cold for 6 months out of the year. So many people aren't thinking past the near future.

  • @nancykraus5127
    @nancykraus5127 3 місяці тому +405

    The truly sad part of this is that only those in the upper middle class can afford to move. I would say a minimum of 55% of us are going to have a very hard time of it.

    • @Rodrigo-tk2fm
      @Rodrigo-tk2fm 2 місяці тому +25

      And the longer you wait to make a move, the more expensive it will be. The move is NOW!

    • @denisefelton5207
      @denisefelton5207 2 місяці тому

      😢

    • @coreblaster6809
      @coreblaster6809 2 місяці тому +3

      Middle class below upper middle class can easily afford to move to cheaper areas

    • @Chloholio
      @Chloholio 2 місяці тому +1

      Get out while you can

    • @HyperOrange
      @HyperOrange 2 місяці тому +8

      @@Rodrigo-tk2fm Except billionaires keep hoarding homes

  • @__-tz6xx
    @__-tz6xx 4 місяці тому +1046

    I'm supprised how very little views real climate change informational videos get compared to the videos questioning how climate change isn't much of a problem.

    • @drunknihilism7181
      @drunknihilism7181 4 місяці тому

      It's easier. If you deny climate change then you don't have to change anything about society and can keep the status quo. Sure the future will be worse but most climate deniers won't be alive to experience it. It's the epitome of the "fuck you, got mine" attitude that is completely antithetical to humanity.

    • @arevolvingdoor3836
      @arevolvingdoor3836 4 місяці тому +102

      I'm not, have you ever met someone who is really into conspiracy theories, they will consume all related media to those theories and try to form reason why they agree. They might watch the video, comment their agreement, and then share it to their facebook community who agrees with them. Their relatively high engagement signals to the platform that the video needs to be recommended to similar user profiles, who then might watch the video, this then gets shared to more and more people. In addition to this, while most climate change denying videos might see people of both sides watch, someone who vehemently disagrees that climate change is real won't watch a video such as this, because to them it doesn't make sense to waste their time about something they firmly believe to be untrue. Therefore the number of videos made will decrease and the number of people who watch lowers as well, thus shrinking the number of people for the platform to recommend the video to. This applies to most social media and is the reason why social media is dangerous and can spread misinformation. I hope this helps you understand a bit better.
      When it comes to understanding the basics of why platforms operate this way, I recommend reading about "Reed's law", it explains the social reasons as to how and why social media platforms grow.

    • @Praisethesunson
      @Praisethesunson 4 місяці тому +52

      Astro turf is well funded.

    • @nlamorte90
      @nlamorte90 4 місяці тому +39

      people seek out information they wish will prove their fears wrong.

    • @Spice1_
      @Spice1_ 4 місяці тому +8

      Surprised at how few views these vids get as well, that’ll probably change soon…

  • @althechicken9597
    @althechicken9597 4 місяці тому +239

    Desert cities like Phoenix and Vegas are going to have to switch to what i call "Daylight Losing Time" where normal business hours shift to being open in the middle of the night, and most people sleep in the hottest hours (~10 am to 6pm)

    • @edenicity
      @edenicity  4 місяці тому +55

      Hilarious...and practical!

    • @jasonhertzberg4818
      @jasonhertzberg4818 4 місяці тому +23

      I work overnights in Phoenix. It is wild how early everything closes here though…

    • @catherinesanchez1185
      @catherinesanchez1185 3 місяці тому +38

      Have family that lives outside Vegas . This is already happening . Everyone with a dog has to walk them before the sun comes up cuz the pavement gets too hot . She walks her dogs at 5 am and runs into lots of other people doing the same plus joggers etc

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 2 місяці тому +13

      This is actually what happens in a lot of Mediterranean towns and on the Iberian peninsula.

    • @meandyousomeofusfortwo
      @meandyousomeofusfortwo 2 місяці тому +2

      I keep telling ppl this and they don’t believe me

  • @brodiapunch
    @brodiapunch 4 місяці тому +402

    I can clearly picture FL congress scoffing at any of the suggested solutions to climate change. "Sustainable transit? No thanks, we much prefer endless urban sprawl and car dependence."

    • @Pistolita221
      @Pistolita221 4 місяці тому +26

      Gridlock traffic, and the Downs Thompson Paradox? Sign me up!

    • @FidelAlt
      @FidelAlt 4 місяці тому +36

      Florida would be such a better state if they had public high speed rail. Mfs cannot drive.

    • @FidelAlt
      @FidelAlt 4 місяці тому +6

      Florida would be OP if they had High speed rail.

    • @seanevans3187
      @seanevans3187 4 місяці тому +20

      The the Brightline is pretty solid and slowly expanding. That is more than most states can say with "Sustainable Transit".

    • @raybod1775
      @raybod1775 4 місяці тому

      All of Florida gets hit by hurricanes, Florida coastal cities will be flooded out within 50 years as well as fresh water being contaminated by salt infiltration.

  • @patrickguilfoyle8884
    @patrickguilfoyle8884 2 місяці тому +79

    the dust bowl was created by plows killing the buffalo grass throughout the plains. Buffalo grass has 6 foot roots which hold the dirt together.

    • @magesalmanac6424
      @magesalmanac6424 2 місяці тому +11

      I’d love to see more farmers adopt the no till method. It build healthy soil and thus healthy crops.

    • @ethanlamoureux5306
      @ethanlamoureux5306 2 місяці тому +1

      The dust bowl was also caused by major global warming during those years, as can be seen by perusing newspaper articles about weather during that time. Of course that warming moderated all on its own, and we haven’t experienced anything like it since, nor have we had a similar dust problem. And none of that climate change was caused by humans.

    • @GeorgeSukFuk
      @GeorgeSukFuk 2 місяці тому

      That's quite a story!

    • @williammussell4150
      @williammussell4150 2 місяці тому +12

      @@ethanlamoureux5306that the dust bowl was initiated and worsened by a period of heat and drought in no way changes that it would have been impossible without human destruction of the prairie ecosystem. Grassland does not turn to dust unless you remove the grass.

    • @patrickguilfoyle8884
      @patrickguilfoyle8884 2 місяці тому +3

      @@ethanlamoureux5306 what caused your climate change??

  • @DerekHyche
    @DerekHyche 4 місяці тому +109

    Ok I worked on golf ⛳ courses all around gulf shores Al and Destin Florida area. What I saw was the chemicals that we had to put on all the grass to keep it green and so called healthy was leaching into some of the lower areas and killing alot of wildlife and developing a metal smell I can't explain other than it says leave..😮 I used to have hope 😭❤❤

    • @AllenGraetz
      @AllenGraetz 2 місяці тому

      I worked for years in my youth at golf courses and never experienced such a thing. Maybe time to get your nose examined?

    • @DerekHyche
      @DerekHyche 2 місяці тому +13

      @@AllenGraetz you never used round up weed control? Maybe a organic golf course. Come on dude don't try to defend something that you know nothing about. Get your opportunity to troll somewhere else. Have a great day.

    • @hotwasabi8312
      @hotwasabi8312 2 місяці тому +6

      ​@@AllenGraetz We aren't talking about a hundred years ago bud

  • @stevesmith-sb2df
    @stevesmith-sb2df 5 місяців тому +257

    I pity those who come to Tx. Its really hot, really humid and really windy. Water restrictions are normal, as is fights over which city can use the water. If you don't believe in climate change now you will in the future.

    • @TheFlinnster
      @TheFlinnster 4 місяці тому +30

      Texan here. Georgetown TX is anticipating running out of water due to population growth and drought. Bandera had to stop people watering their yards and using car washes in summer 2023 due to lack of water.

    • @tinoyb9294
      @tinoyb9294 4 місяці тому +8

      ​@TheFlinnster true all over the western US.

    • @ninatrabona4629
      @ninatrabona4629 4 місяці тому +6

      That wind is cheap to harvest for electric power, if there were a way to swap it with somebody for drinkable water. When industry and people move in they'll pollute the ground water that Texans have now.

    • @VulcanLogic
      @VulcanLogic 4 місяці тому +16

      My siblings are all in Texas. My biggest fear for them is their crappy power grid gives out on 125 degree days. So many will die.

    • @kaymillerfromTX
      @kaymillerfromTX 4 місяці тому +3

      @@VulcanLogicWhen is it 125 degrees? Lmfao stop lying

  • @Burgerzaza
    @Burgerzaza 4 місяці тому +143

    As a political science major finishing my degree next semester, i really appreciate informative videos like this which get us thinking about how we're going to solve these problems, atleast in the short term. Its gonna be my generation having to make it through the hard years ahead as gracefully as possible, so having plans in place and ideas circulating is critical.
    As a side note, im actually working on a sci fi book set 100 years in the future where world government's terraformed a warmed Antarctica to have a place to put all the climate migrants, so videos like this help me brainstorm what happened to get there and make that world look the way it does
    Keep on rocking on 🤘

    • @markd.9042
      @markd.9042 4 місяці тому +1

      Underrated comment

    • @karnubawax
      @karnubawax 4 місяці тому +5

      Okay... but what are you going to do with the race of aliens who already live there?

    • @shamrock5725
      @shamrock5725 3 місяці тому +2

      Some problems aren't able to be solved, just survived.

    • @garythecyclingnerd6219
      @garythecyclingnerd6219 2 місяці тому

      Bud, we’re not even going to have a country to save in 4 years 😂😂

    • @Barryd57
      @Barryd57 2 місяці тому

      Many problems will not be solved. We'll just move onto the next place & hope to survive.

  • @Sharukurusu
    @Sharukurusu 5 місяців тому +220

    Seeing how the Miami skyline has boomed over the past couple decades has been really disheartening, even a small amount of sea level rise can cause salt water intrusion to the aquifers supplying millions. Fingers crossed rural Pennsylvania will see me through 🤞

    • @runningfromabear8354
      @runningfromabear8354 4 місяці тому +19

      Living in northern Ontario Canada and 🤞people remain convinced it's too cold. If you love your haven, find your angle that people hate and emphasize the hell out of it 😅

    • @Pistolita221
      @Pistolita221 4 місяці тому +24

      Great Lakes Region is the best place to be, and that includes rural pensylvania.

    • @alejandrocespedes1544
      @alejandrocespedes1544 4 місяці тому +14

      I am another Miami native too. I am not planning on staying in Miami, as much as I love my city. The politics and general ignorance of this state is disheartening.

    • @comment8767
      @comment8767 4 місяці тому +1

      @@alejandrocespedes1544 It will improve as wokies move out.

    • @fcdraw
      @fcdraw 4 місяці тому

      ​@@comment8767how's that home insurance in Florida? Your governor is too busy trying to kill woke to fix that problem.

  • @jannetteberends8730
    @jannetteberends8730 4 місяці тому +153

    I live in the Netherlands, we’re prepared for the coming 50 years. Working hard to for the next 50 years. With the decreasing births per thousand, immigration can be a blessing. And we have enough food. We are a very small country, but are the second exporter of agricultural product in the world.

    • @lucakrokrowinkel9576
      @lucakrokrowinkel9576 4 місяці тому

      Janette
      Hallo, sorry maar
      Ik snap gewoon echt niet waar je met dit vandaan komt.
      't aantal geboortes is omlaag omdat starters geen huizen kunnen betalen, eten is tering duur en de belasting op benzine is absurd.
      De huizen prijzen zijn zo hoog omdat we gigantish veel immigratie hebben en vanwege 't "CO2 probleem".
      Ondertussen zit je met 'n populatie immigranten die bijna niets bijdragen aan de economie behalve dat GDP omhoog op papier.
      In de echte wereld gaan lonen omlaag, worden bossen, velden en boarderijen vervangen met rijhuisjes en de Nederlandse jeugd kan er voor opdrijven omdat de immigratie grotendeels economisch inactief is behalve dan dat ze de banen die normaal door tieners en 20 jarigen doen...
      In 2023 kwamen 400.00 grotendeels economisch inactieven buitenlanders binnen en gingen 200.000 grotendeels economisch actieve nederlanders weg.
      En de hele klimaat zooi van 't kabinet is boeren aan't kloten dus die 2de plek als exporter gaat ook niet lang houden.
      Waarom vind je dit goed?
      Ik snap 't niet.

    • @platinum-or3y
      @platinum-or3y 4 місяці тому +1

      moving there next year

    • @bohoasa
      @bohoasa 4 місяці тому +1

      Hopefully I can move there soon (especially if there are any job opportunities for immigrants and affordable housing)

    • @lucakrokrowinkel9576
      @lucakrokrowinkel9576 4 місяці тому

      @@bohoasa affordable housing mfk er the only reason its unaffordable is cuz you bruhs keep walking in nah

    • @bigbabado8296
      @bigbabado8296 4 місяці тому +13

      Your country has used info about climate change well, wish the U.S had done the same

  • @falsificationism
    @falsificationism 4 місяці тому +123

    Just found the channel. A few seconds in, he referred to himself as a "permaculture urbanist."
    Automatic subscribe.

    • @falsificationism
      @falsificationism 4 місяці тому +19

      UPDATE: Was NOT disappointed. The scientific integrity of this channel is really pretty incredible. Great interdisciplinary approach!

    • @conorm1871
      @conorm1871 4 місяці тому +2

      Same. IMO its the only valid type of urbanist

    • @bohoasa
      @bohoasa 4 місяці тому +1

      Me too

    • @jeffjuracka7428
      @jeffjuracka7428 4 місяці тому +4

      What I’m trying to figure out is how do I get into this field? Had no idea urban planning and permaculture were coming together like this. @edencity do you need an intern?

    • @falsificationism
      @falsificationism 4 місяці тому +6

      @@jeffjuracka7428 Ha, I second this. But more generally, I really, really like the idea of forming some sort of organization designed to create the social/political/administrative antecedents necessary for rapid adoption.
      One dirty little secret of municipal policies is that copy/paste is ACTUALLY a thing. Once there's a model and politicians find out there's little political risk to adopting it, bureaucrats and interns are lazy and love to have paint-by-numbers available! Not every aspect of Edenicity will be so straightforward, but certain aspects of zoning for example really can be.

  • @BaskingInObscurity
    @BaskingInObscurity 4 місяці тому +40

    My grandparents described the dust storms (they were tweens). Despite the long drought, they'd wet towels to block all the gaps around windows and doors; but the dust was so fine and the wind could be so strong, that it was never enough, just made it tolerable, and still required being replaced ever few hours.

  • @twintailsanimations4973
    @twintailsanimations4973 4 місяці тому +61

    AZ is terrible. Lack of water, out of control development, increased population and tons of asphalt and concrete are an environmental disaster waiting to happen.

    • @dalton6108
      @dalton6108 4 місяці тому +8

      Ya I don’t know why I moved here. It’s an actual health hazard to be outside during certain parts of the day.

    • @comment8767
      @comment8767 4 місяці тому +6

      And none of that has anything to do with climate change.

    • @karnubawax
      @karnubawax 4 місяці тому

      Yeah, well northern Arizona has none of those problems.

    • @wakjagner
      @wakjagner 4 місяці тому

      ​@@comment8767right, it's completely shit BEFORE climate change makes it even worse.

    • @philmabarak5421
      @philmabarak5421 3 місяці тому +11

      @@comment8767 Effects of Climate Change in the region is what's relevant.

  • @Encephalitisify
    @Encephalitisify 4 місяці тому +237

    The people who don’t believe in climate change are moving to those states that will be almost uninhabitable. We moved from the south last year. People who believe science are moving to safe locations. I do not feel sorry for anyone moving to these places. I do however feel for those who know what’s coming but can not move due to finances. And it really peeves me off because the politicians they vote don’t believe it either and will cause them the problems they will have. And we will have to rescue them.

    • @DC-xg7vn
      @DC-xg7vn 4 місяці тому +24

      This is exactly what is happening in the flooding area in the south of Brazil. The local people voted for mayors and governor who doesn't care for the environment and who cut funding for prevention. Now these people are suffering and the federal government, which is not a denier, is the one who is coming for their rescue. Unfortunately many innocent people are suffering as well.

    • @GaelissFelin
      @GaelissFelin 4 місяці тому +1

      Thank you for sharing this

    • @unyieldingsarcasm2505
      @unyieldingsarcasm2505 4 місяці тому

      "And we will have to rescue them." will we? they voted for us all to needlessly suffer and die for decades while science the world over screamed reality at them.
      I say, build that wall they always bang on about around those doomed states, and let them enjoy the reality they created for themselves.

    • @AbstractEntityJ
      @AbstractEntityJ 4 місяці тому +9

      A lot of people are just really short sighted and lacking in wisdom.

    • @caccalot3637
      @caccalot3637 4 місяці тому +5

      You think your votes matter?

  • @ntamny
    @ntamny 4 місяці тому +42

    A friend’s dog has been diagnosed with “Valley Fever.” Dust from the desert involves fungal spores.

  • @raybod1775
    @raybod1775 4 місяці тому +144

    Chicago and upper Midwest in Great Lakes basin is most protected from global heating. Winters are so much better, just a few weeks of really cold weather. Summers are hot, but it’s only real hot for a couple months out of the year. We won’t run out of water, won’t run out of electricity, too far from oceans to ever flood or get hit with any super storms from the oceans.

    • @BrendaTheeSolarGirl
      @BrendaTheeSolarGirl 4 місяці тому

      Yes I was was so surprised Chicago and the upper Midwest in the Great Lake basin is the most protected from global heating. I live in Chicago was debating on moving to Texas but did my research and it’s best to stay here.

    • @C1K450
      @C1K450 4 місяці тому +34

      Just because you’re inland doesn’t mean it’s the most protected. Yes, the Midwest will be protected from sea level rises and flooding, but your region will have more frequent and bigger tornadoes and droughts.

    • @BankC6969
      @BankC6969 4 місяці тому +35

      @@C1K450that’s true. There isn’t any where that’s “safe” from climate change, however, the Midwest does seem best..

    • @TheRandomINFJ
      @TheRandomINFJ 4 місяці тому

      Why are you promoting it? If it's so magical, you should be slandering it to deter people from coming. Here I'll show you how it's done. As for my state of NH, total crap hole, ugly as hell, 1-star...just AWFUL. Highly don't recommend! 😉 🤫

    • @StayFreshMyFriends
      @StayFreshMyFriends 4 місяці тому +36

      4 years ago everyone was leaving illinois for arizona and in five years they will be crawling back

  • @rossscott7260
    @rossscott7260 2 місяці тому +3

    Moved to Minneapolis in 2010. Part of the reason was because the Twin Cities is one of the few metro areas that the climate will actually get nicer. Not all the state but the metro will be a core to help out others that suffer.

  • @Shinyshoesz
    @Shinyshoesz 2 місяці тому +9

    Thank you for this!
    I'm always on the lookout for more permaculture talk. It seems the most sensible and the most grounded approach to the future we've sown (pun intended).
    We need pragmatic and creative ways to mitigate these issues as it is almost inevitable that we will not be able to slow emissions politically in time.
    Subscribed!

  • @annoyedok321
    @annoyedok321 4 місяці тому +28

    Wind breaks that were planted in response to the Dust Bowl have been mostly torn up and replaced with corn here. Many homesteads with forested areas also dozed.
    In the US conservation is a hard sell. Any attempt to counter this has to be built around consumerism or using government money to enrich corporations or billionaires.

    • @alexei5543
      @alexei5543 4 місяці тому

      There is more forest in the eastern US than 50, 100 and 150 years ago.

    • @annoyedok321
      @annoyedok321 4 місяці тому

      @@alexei5543 Considering the loss of the American chestnut trees prior to that, naturally reseeding from other trees was eventually going to bridge the gaps. My concern was about windbreaks disappearing in the plains where crop soil is a valuable resource. Between ethanol production increasing the value of corn and tornados over the decades many of the dust bowl crop protections have disappeared.
      National parks are great and all for conservation, but a large forest over non-commercial land is a easier sell. Protecting our waterways, wetlands and creating windbreaks with strip parks and grasslands should be a long term approach. A project like the Sahara deserts "Great Green Wall" would be much easier to do now in the US than later on. River's like the Mississippi should have a half mile wide park on both sides. There should be a mile wide strip forest that goes from shore to shore in the US with a rideable trail.
      Not only could we create a wall against climate change and top soil erosion, but we can protect the quality of our water by keeping some of farm runoff out.

    • @richardhanes7370
      @richardhanes7370 4 місяці тому +4

      My farm in Ohio is half forest. I plan on keeping it that way because I like to sit and look at it. I have a view you'd swear was a painting

    • @annoyedok321
      @annoyedok321 2 місяці тому

      @@alexei5543 Well when you have 3.5 billion American Chestnut trees wiped out due to blight it tends to create a void that is eventually filled by natural seeding from other species. Trying to spin this as a good thing is a bit much though.

  • @mlp4eva
    @mlp4eva 2 місяці тому +5

    "the most scary climate model to date" is actually the best case scenario climate model

  • @JB-gj8pu
    @JB-gj8pu 4 місяці тому +56

    The greatest threat to human civilization is bad leadership, especially from the government. People always flee from bad government. Mismanaging ecology is just one sign of bad government. High taxes, high crime, poor economy, poor health outcomes, etc are a lot more important to your average working person trying to keep out of poverty. The advantage of the US system is that as a federation, different states can pursue different solutions to the coming crises.

    • @Pistolita221
      @Pistolita221 4 місяці тому +15

      Oh, so what aspect of the economy and personal health isn't touched by ecology? Do boats not float on the water, do planes not fly through the sky, are buildings not on the ground? Do workers not eat food grown from the ground? Where does timber come from? What effects your lungs? What do your lungs not effect within your body?

    • @nicklibby3784
      @nicklibby3784 4 місяці тому +6

      I agree and kinda disagree, the fact each state can make their own rules means they can come up with different ideas until something works, and then the rest of the states follow.
      Each state gets to do their own experiments until something works then everyone else copies.
      The part I disagree with, is that when everyone flees a bad state (bad state government), then there's nobody left to oppose them and try to change things and get the gov to do the right thing.
      Yes, in theory, eventually that state government will feel the negative effects of their population fleeing the state for better states, which theory will convince them to change for the good. But that is a long process, that seems to be more damaging than if people stuck around and got them to change before things got bad.
      I think the real problem is actually getting our local governments to just change, or literally do something, anything. It seems like no matter how much your protest of vote, we don't make much progress. So people get hopeless, give up, and flee to another state where things are working or progressing.

    • @maximumentropy1863
      @maximumentropy1863 4 місяці тому +2

      Most people do not have the financial means to flee to another city or even state. The geometric progression of human birth rate, especially among the lower income people, provides more people to fill in for those who fled the city or state.

    • @ocularpatdown
      @ocularpatdown 4 місяці тому +6

      Corporations are also a problem.

    • @KadiddlehopperClem
      @KadiddlehopperClem 3 місяці тому

      @@nicklibby3784 BS! If you leave it to individual states, it will be a disaster! Too many states are controlled by corporate puppets! So the local government makes decisions for the short term and bail when things go wrong. At this time the entire south is run by idiots.

  • @kennethhudgins1369
    @kennethhudgins1369 4 місяці тому +19

    Seeing that exact map on propublica is what convinced me to move from texas in 2022 to the north east in Pennsylvania.

    • @novaimperator
      @novaimperator 4 місяці тому

      Woohoo Texas get another one cant take the heat

    • @nancykraus5127
      @nancykraus5127 3 місяці тому +8

      You are one of the smart ones. That heat in Texas is only going to get worse and we have already seen just how good that aging power grid is.

    • @novaimperator
      @novaimperator 3 місяці тому +1

      @@nancykraus5127 that was a couple of years ago and the turbines froze because of incompetent bureaucrats, the system that was not winterized work fine. The other two power grids that continuously have brownouts and blackouts have nothing ever said about them.

    • @kennethhudgins1369
      @kennethhudgins1369 3 місяці тому +3

      @nancykraus5127 a few days ago I got an email notification from my power provider detailing all the things they did to prepare their infrastructure and how they were ready for the heatwave we are currently experiencing, and I can't help but remember the emails I got from my texas power provider begging us to conserve power by not doing things like running the dishwasher durring the day or setting the thermostat to higher temp cooling or turning off lights you weren't using. Wild times.

    • @novaimperator
      @novaimperator 3 місяці тому

      @@kennethhudgins1369 just because you get an email don't mean shit, they most likely put more work in the e-mail than the grid partially because it was from you're provider. Thank you for leaving I hope you love the place sorry Texas wasn't for you.

  • @bigbiggoblin2873
    @bigbiggoblin2873 2 місяці тому +3

    Holy moly this is the exact type of channel I’ve been looking for. Very nice

  • @timothydevries383
    @timothydevries383 4 місяці тому +11

    Most migration is economic. People are leaving big US cities like LA, Chicago and New York for mostly economic reasons.

    • @magesalmanac6424
      @magesalmanac6424 2 місяці тому +2

      And people move from the burbs and country to cities for better wages. It’s a cycle.

    • @PentaRaus
      @PentaRaus 2 місяці тому

      Liberal policies make for shit cities it seems.

  • @CuNguyen-ct8nk
    @CuNguyen-ct8nk 2 місяці тому +6

    Growing up in Michigan I hated it with the brutal winters. But now there's no other place I would want to be. I went to Texas last year to visit my Grandma and it was 110 every day. Even walking into a store felt unbearable with the heat blast. In the summers it never gets to 100 and by 8-9 pm it's only 70-75 degrees. In the winters you can just stay inside and go to indoor water parks, stores, malls and other places. In 20 years I've only had our power go out maybe a handful of times and the longest it was out was maybe for a day or two. I've never experienced a flood, hurricane or tornado. I'd rather deal with freezing cold temperatures then scorching heat in the Summer.

  • @broadestsmiler
    @broadestsmiler 4 місяці тому +7

    Solid video. Thank you for not only covering the issue at hand but also proposing potential mitigations for preventing harm for affected areas.

    • @edenicity
      @edenicity  4 місяці тому +1

      Thanks! I judge cities by the mitigations they put in place relative to the threats they face.

  • @Nick-yz9fd
    @Nick-yz9fd 4 місяці тому +28

    I saw this coming 7 years ago. I made the decision to leave South Florida for Tennessee after seeing the heat and humidity get worse over the last 30 years. The factors are the rising temperatures, the rising sea levels, the over saturated housing market, the overpriced homes that have zero lot-line, and the younger generation's lack of desire for the same living environment as the Boomers coupled with their inability to purchase the houses, and the incredibly high cost of living. Factor that all in and you're faced with two possibilities: One, things will continue pretty much as normal, or Two, the coastlines will disappear and take the value of the real-estate with it, People will move inland and displace those who can't afford it, but the increasing temps and loss of access to the beach will make Florida less desirable, eventually leading to a catastrophically extreme drop in housing prices that will leave the whole state financially underwater. If you don't leave before that moment, youre screwed... This can all be accelerated by one cat 4-5 hurricane hitting south Florida dead-on. Florida is about to go through it. This isn't even factoring in if the atlantic current shuts down, if that happens, Florida will become an uninhabitable swamp again.

  • @michaelwazowski2089
    @michaelwazowski2089 4 місяці тому +16

    Absolutely love your presentation and discussion style, as well as use of and citation of research and interacting with the websites and articles themselves. Bang on job on a crucial topic. Keep up the excellent work.

  • @katemariemc
    @katemariemc 4 місяці тому +30

    Moved from the south to minnesota this year. Im considering myself an early climate refugee.

    • @benevolencia4203
      @benevolencia4203 4 місяці тому +7

      Climate refugees are not alone moving north. There are the healthcare ban refugees, and political refugees also.

    • @grantsmith3514
      @grantsmith3514 3 місяці тому

      You are not a climate refugee! Stop it. Those Pacific Islanders are refugees.

    • @Steve-hv1bg
      @Steve-hv1bg 2 місяці тому

      I'm curious why the thumbnail showed people moving south.. I figured the heat would force people north

  • @BryanAlexander
    @BryanAlexander 2 місяці тому +4

    The slide around 11:49, mapping disaster types onto US states and cities, is excellent.

  • @Jarrd260
    @Jarrd260 4 місяці тому +27

    Can we call these folks who are moving "Climagrants"?

    • @kojisan1
      @kojisan1 4 місяці тому +2

      Only if you spell it correctly, "Climmigrants".

  • @marceloduran7930
    @marceloduran7930 2 місяці тому +4

    My friend, you have earned yourself a subscriber.
    As an 18 year old going into university with a lot on my mind already, I find that the more I understand something, the less I fear it. And that is precisely what this video has done for me. I truly believe that knowledge is the most potent source of hope, something that people of younger generations desperately need around the world.
    I'll be honest, it's not like all of my anxiety about climate change has gone away, but it feels more manageable. And that is thanks to educational materials such as this video.

    • @danielslavin00
      @danielslavin00 2 місяці тому +2

      I suggest medication if this is on your mind. Get help

    • @MrCSutton
      @MrCSutton 2 місяці тому

      The earth has thousands of climates, not just one. Or do you actually believe the climate in the desert of Saudi Arabia is the same as in Alaska, for example?
      The earth's climates are immeasurably complex, constantly changing, impossible to predict and understood by nobody, regardless of how many qualifications they have.
      Anyone who claims otherwise is lying.
      Humans couldn't affect the earth's climates even if we wanted to. We're far too insignificant, a mere rash on its surface.
      The "climate crisis" exists only in cyberspace. Take away the internet and it immediately disappears.
      Stop worrying and enjoy your life.

    • @chrism8180
      @chrism8180 2 місяці тому

      If you want to understand things stay away from university. You have a wealth of knowledge at your fingertips to learn anything l, and you can learn it in a way that is best for you. And not in some bs sterile rigid setting

    • @chrism8180
      @chrism8180 2 місяці тому

      ​@@danielslavin00 that's a pretty poor suggestion.

  • @jonathanravenhilllloyd2070
    @jonathanravenhilllloyd2070 4 місяці тому +29

    Thanks for the Mollison reference.
    I own a small, forested hill farm in Catalonia and am writing my forestry management plan at the moment.
    Useful

  • @Imblakeimblakethatsrght
    @Imblakeimblakethatsrght 4 місяці тому +16

    Love this video, living in south Louisiana, it seems all of the ways to fight climate change seems very necessary for my community and others to survive, Thank You.

  • @matthewlloyd3870
    @matthewlloyd3870 4 місяці тому +3

    This was a fantastic video! Really enjoyed how you broke down the extremely difficult subject matter with factual evidence and studies, while not scaring us but informing us. Instantly subscribed, videos like these are far too uncommon these days!

    • @edenicity
      @edenicity  4 місяці тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @MirceaKitsune
    @MirceaKitsune 4 місяці тому +25

    You just gotta love it when people be like " hey guys, today we'll discuss how a planetary apocalypse coming, and how you can profit or not be affected by moving a few kilometers away".

    • @pcatful
      @pcatful 2 місяці тому +1

      And there's money to be made in every disaster!

  • @PlayPauseRecord535
    @PlayPauseRecord535 Місяць тому

    Great points. Good information. Thank you for the in depth analysis of these issues and providing your perspective on realistic solutions to resolve these issues.

  • @patrickwentz8413
    @patrickwentz8413 2 місяці тому +5

    Interestingly, when I looked at the ProPublica map, I noticed that Pennsylvania is hardly affected by climate change. Nothing ever really happens in my state...

    • @magesalmanac6424
      @magesalmanac6424 2 місяці тому +1

      That’s a blessing! I’ve heard Pennsylvanians are nice people. Might just migrate there too 😁

    • @patrickwentz8413
      @patrickwentz8413 2 місяці тому

      @@magesalmanac6424 I'm not sure where you are from, but Philadelphia and the surrounding counties are very expensive. South Central PA, where I live, is more affordable. The rest of the state, except State College, is even more affordable.

  • @jonicoble1898
    @jonicoble1898 3 місяці тому +1

    The most clearheaded description of this issue I’ve come across. Thank you very much! Will be sharing widely

  • @oxvendivil442
    @oxvendivil442 4 місяці тому +63

    Here in tropical Asia, we are being cooked!

    • @hurrdurrmurrgurr
      @hurrdurrmurrgurr 4 місяці тому

      South Asia is on a countdown to country ending mass migrations.

    • @StayFreshMyFriends
      @StayFreshMyFriends 4 місяці тому +3

      Y'all are going to have to live underground eventually. It's really sad

    • @comment8767
      @comment8767 4 місяці тому +1

      Thirty years ago is was freezing.

    • @aileen7329
      @aileen7329 20 днів тому

      I am sorry for you guys over there. I wish it were more bearable.

  • @thedomestead3546
    @thedomestead3546 5 місяців тому +92

    The slaughter of farm animals completely disregards natural agricultural systems that build soils and forrests through well thought out methods based on location and environment.

    • @edgbarra
      @edgbarra 5 місяців тому +4

      It's crazy how many reasons we can find to stop supporting them with our money

    • @RussellB
      @RussellB 4 місяці тому +7

      the whole concept of animal agriculture is the problem. We deforest 50% of our land for hamburgers and then wonder how we got into this mess. We desperately need to stop this, send that 50 billion dollars in subsidies they get and buy their land, and hire people or the farmers themselves to rewild it. The 8 billion of us only need a fraction of the cropland that 100 billion animals need. The solution is right there and everyone just disregards it or focuses on transportation or useless half measures. This will actually REVERSE climate change as half of habitable land worldwide is used for animal agriculture when it could be forest.

    • @Direblade11
      @Direblade11 4 місяці тому

      @@RussellB I hope you already eat vegan mostly. I try to cook vegetarian when I can

    • @thedomestead3546
      @thedomestead3546 4 місяці тому +1

      @@RussellB the algorithm is a stereotype snowball

    • @timothypaulino8454
      @timothypaulino8454 4 місяці тому +4

      From its inception agriculture wasn't natural if we are to make a distinction between horticulture and agriculture. Its was developed in particular areas of the world where competition for food was forcing many to source their nutrition to growing crops at large scales. If you were to limit agriculture, you would greatly reduce the nourishment of humans. It takes a lot of time to develop self sustaining food supplies for oneself.

  • @Hayley-sl9lm
    @Hayley-sl9lm 5 місяців тому +11

    Wow this great. Kind of terrifying what we're facing but slightly less terrifying if we can see it coming and try to act

    • @comment8767
      @comment8767 4 місяці тому

      Even more terrifying when you imagine it is coming.

    • @karnubawax
      @karnubawax 4 місяці тому

      @@comment8767 Even MORE terrifying when you realize our "best guesses" are still only guesses. We have no idea what will really happen.

  • @ploopydiper
    @ploopydiper 2 місяці тому +2

    I’ve been thinking about this a lot since the 115 degree heat waves we’ve been getting in fresno/clovis already this summer. We all want out

  • @KINGTUTT_
    @KINGTUTT_ 4 місяці тому +3

    this channel is fantastic, i hope it grows

  • @LatinaCreamQueen
    @LatinaCreamQueen 2 місяці тому +1

    There's a charcter in Joe Pera Talks With You called Sarah who is a Doomsday Preper. In the show she only recently moved to the Upper Peninsula of Michigan because in her mind its an advantages area.
    She rationalizes that its at least risk for climate change AND hard to reach through an invasion. Definitely one of the best characters in the series.

    • @PentaRaus
      @PentaRaus 2 місяці тому

      Dearborn Michigan has left the chat.

  • @glennr9913
    @glennr9913 3 місяці тому +3

    It would be interesting to see the predictions for US-to-Canada migration patterns.
    Great video. Subscribed. 👍👍

  • @Donkor640
    @Donkor640 3 місяці тому +2

    This is a Great video! Very informative. We won’t be able to get everyone to plan for the changing future but it’s important for those of us who are long term planers to get ourselves situated and settled before the 💩 hits the fan. And for the more compassionate souls among us to help the displaced shortsighted people. 😊

  • @avibortnick
    @avibortnick 2 місяці тому +3

    One thing about these by 2050 (or 2070 or 2100) forecasts is that there's a bit of an implicit message that this is an arrival point, and that temperature won't keep rising. Unless all CO2/methane emissions are halted, things will just get worse year over year. You can run, but you can't hide.

  • @Arcticwhir
    @Arcticwhir 2 місяці тому +1

    14:20 regardless of climate change we should be doing this, there are countless negatives to suburban sprawl to many to list, and amazing benefits to the things you've listed.

  • @CreatureOfH4bit
    @CreatureOfH4bit 4 місяці тому +47

    We can't address these issues due to capitalism. Anything that upsets the ability to gain profits now, in the moment, is seen as the villain.
    Disinformation campaigns, stripping education at a local level and sheer hubris will stop us from not just stopping/slowing climate change but will have us pitted against eachother like a pvp video game.
    Solidarity can save us but capitalism has divided us.
    I recommend you read 3 books: -Capital Volume 1 by Karl Marx
    -Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism
    by Vladimir Lenin
    -Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky
    -

    • @Cross_Contam
      @Cross_Contam 4 місяці тому

      Noam wrote the book but couldn't recognize it in action in the past few years. He went fascist wanting people segregated in their home if they valued their Bodily Autonomy. Saying getting food would be their own problem if they didn't want to vaccinate. All that for a manufacturered sickness with a manufacturered cure. Capitalism is bad business unless it's a pharmaceutical business.

    • @FunctionallyLiteratePerson
      @FunctionallyLiteratePerson 4 місяці тому +7

      Great recommendations. I hope someone takes them seriously and doesn't just scoff them off

    • @comment8767
      @comment8767 4 місяці тому

      Crackpot Maoist here!

    • @novaimperator
      @novaimperator 4 місяці тому +1

      How has communism worked out for any one they to hungry to say

    • @GreyGardensGold
      @GreyGardensGold 3 місяці тому +1

      Marx was a terrible person.

  • @beaub152
    @beaub152 2 місяці тому

    I love this video, its everything that is needed to know. I wish everyone would watch this video and actually care

  • @namarie325
    @namarie325 4 місяці тому +3

    Florida the last few years has been like the final moonshot when all the dumb money piles in. I just moved back to NE Ohio. So glad to be out of that mess.
    I’d considered all the risk factors, except hadn’t given much thought to the dust bowl, although being in an agricultural zone with expanding growing season was important to me. I decided this was among the best places to be excepting Northern New England which is very expensive. Very concise video.

    • @appa609
      @appa609 2 місяці тому

      By far the best place to go is the great lakes. I'm from the suburbs of Buffalo where you can still buy a beautiful house in a great school district for $300k.

  • @tiocco
    @tiocco 2 місяці тому

    What a great video, I'm glad to have found your channel!

  • @michelem226
    @michelem226 4 місяці тому +5

    I moved to Pittsburgh ten years ago from Phoenix, because of climate change. Good to see Pittsburgh is okay, although, we got a bunch of tornadoes in May 😮

  • @OneDollarWilliam
    @OneDollarWilliam 2 місяці тому

    It's important to note that on the humidity map Georgia doesn't change. This is not because things are nice here, it's because once you're at 100% humidity every day, four months out of the year, there's really nowhere else to go.

  • @alfredogarbanzo2276
    @alfredogarbanzo2276 4 місяці тому +3

    I REALLY enjoyed this perspective of yours, we need more of this fusion between Urbanism/Permaculture bc if we feed into ecological systems they will support or human systems to a degree.

  • @waldorf2007
    @waldorf2007 2 місяці тому +2

    The transition between really hot to really cold is the X factor. Is it years or months to allow for migration. Winnipeg will stay the same -30 throughout the whole thing.

  • @asianamericanadvice6016
    @asianamericanadvice6016 4 місяці тому +3

    I predicted 15 years ago that insurance rates would be major spur to change, but its been slow even in that realm. Although some places are largely uninsurable.

  • @williamford3605
    @williamford3605 2 місяці тому +2

    Reviewing scientific papers? Actually showing which ones they are? Subscribed

  • @MightyKingYoung
    @MightyKingYoung 4 місяці тому +9

    WHY is the US not investing in geoengineering! They're not even trying to slow the water loss or prevent the erosion

    • @davidmenasco5743
      @davidmenasco5743 4 місяці тому +1

      The Biden administration has made significant investments in the transition to renewable energy and electrified transportation. This transition is absolutely essential to stop the warming of the atmosphere and greatly reduce the severity of climate change.
      More is needed, and it is needed ASAP.

    • @catherinesanchez1185
      @catherinesanchez1185 3 місяці тому +2

      That requires acknowledging there’s a problem and then the political will to do it .

    • @davidmenasco5743
      @davidmenasco5743 3 місяці тому +5

      @@MightyKingYoung Ever heard of the US Army Corp of Engineers?? Geoengineering is pretty much what they do.
      Unfortunately, they're usually doing the opposite of what is needed to maintain a healthy biosphere in the long run.

  • @nnonotnow
    @nnonotnow 3 місяці тому +2

    You're a useful information. Thanks for sharing. I live in a flyover state on the Great plains. Family's been here since 1871 so they've been through the dust storm and all that stuff. Actually looking at it it's going to be a challenge but I don't think we're going to have to move. Stop growing corn. We just start growing dry land wheat

  • @TheSpecialJ11
    @TheSpecialJ11 4 місяці тому +5

    0:11 You're not the only permaculture urbanist. I'm one too, I'm just very very early in my career (finishing my degree in planning right now and want to do design work where I use permaculture principles in my workflow)

    • @edenicity
      @edenicity  4 місяці тому +4

      Whew--it was getting lonely. Glad you plan to bring permaculture into your work. While the opportunities may not be ready-made, it's hard to overstate the need for ecologically sound urban design.

  • @maxbarter7524
    @maxbarter7524 2 місяці тому

    Great video. Comprehensive, informative. Commenting to boost engagement because people need to see this.

  • @TVtheTV
    @TVtheTV 4 місяці тому +5

    I have lived in Arizona my entire life. I hope to change that in the next ten years.

    • @Bdavis2475
      @Bdavis2475 2 місяці тому +1

      Why don't you move this year?

    • @ssssaa2
      @ssssaa2 2 місяці тому +1

      Could also just move into the higher elevations of Arizona, though there is no large city like Phoenix there, it is cooler.

  • @AlexanderEiffel
    @AlexanderEiffel 2 місяці тому

    Excellent video, thank you!

  • @TheBlackmanIsGod
    @TheBlackmanIsGod 4 місяці тому +8

    If you think people are moving because of climate rather than the lack of livable wage jobs and the cost of living, then I know you are out of touch with reality and I can’t listen to anything you’re saying.

  • @Jophiel50
    @Jophiel50 2 місяці тому +1

    Exquisite video; great dissemination!

  • @twilightcitystudios
    @twilightcitystudios 4 місяці тому +10

    Chicago is in a better place compared to some other cities. Chicago has potential if it can be done well Chicago can handle the changes better than other places.

    • @soymilkman
      @soymilkman 4 місяці тому +6

      Chicago has been making great strides to improve, especially politically, and it’s been awesome to see. Plus Lake Michigan is right there so there will never be a risk of running out of water. The real climate worries will be air pollution from wildfires and the humidity coming from the lake. I think people forget how HOT Chicago can get, we have extremes of both with summers regularly getting to the 100s, and when you combine that with the humidity, the lack of air conditioning in many apartments, as well as the urban heat island effect it can get deadly fast. If Chicago can combat the air conditioning and urban heat issue and switch to renewables than the city should be fine for the foreseeable future

    • @StayFreshMyFriends
      @StayFreshMyFriends 4 місяці тому

      @@soymilkman We are in a good position to use wind power but it will take significant investment.

    • @StayFreshMyFriends
      @StayFreshMyFriends 4 місяці тому +2

      @@soymilkman Chicago will unfortunately be NY levels of expensive in about 10-15 years

    • @comment8767
      @comment8767 4 місяці тому

      @@StayFreshMyFriends Do you do stock predictions also? Any recommendations?

    • @PentaRaus
      @PentaRaus 2 місяці тому

      Chicago has a higher murder rate the most 3rd world countries. There's no voting your way out of those genetics. Good luck.

  • @daviddivad6109
    @daviddivad6109 2 місяці тому

    Very well put together and informative video. thank you for this public service!

  • @BopaWorld
    @BopaWorld 4 місяці тому +7

    Does the humidity increase map show the increase in year round average? My experience so far is that at least in Arizona where we have humid winters, the winters are getting wetter while summers stay dry and get hotter.

    • @edenicity
      @edenicity  4 місяці тому +2

      These are not averages. They are a measure of days per year with high wet bulb temperatures, or humidity so high that something like 82F feels like 95F. The heat would creep into the wetter months.

  • @Honeycrispsosweet
    @Honeycrispsosweet 2 місяці тому +1

    Love this video -- so stoked to find your channel

  • @brett.c1649
    @brett.c1649 4 місяці тому +4

    Dont forget to paint your roof blue folks!

  • @mitchsargent5543
    @mitchsargent5543 2 місяці тому +1

    Excellent analysis, thank you!

  • @iloveprivacy8167
    @iloveprivacy8167 3 місяці тому +3

    A billionaire boom in ... Florida.
    I really don't want to hear about how they're smarter than the rest of us. 🤦‍♀️

  • @ArchimedesPie
    @ArchimedesPie 2 місяці тому +1

    I'm not a fan of the push for urbanization, walkable cities ( i.e. Mega-cities), etc. I don't think this is the correct way to balance ourselves with the environment.
    I believe we should distribute ourselves even more than now with many more smaller "cities" mixed into the environment in a much more balanced way. This allows for local farming, local water management, etc. The hurdle is employment patterns.

  • @Dobbs6651
    @Dobbs6651 4 місяці тому +4

    Hello from Flint. Please move here

  • @Hybridog
    @Hybridog 2 місяці тому

    In 2023 the University of Houston did a survey and found over half of the people asked said they had considered leaving Houston. Half of those listed extreme weather as the reason. Climate migration will start long before the actual measurable climate gets to it's worst levels. The economic impact will also be felt before things get really bad. That will be because of businesses leaving (particularly large corporations) and new businesses choosing not to locate there. The Houston metro area is very important to the Texas economy and the migration will hurt everyone in the state.

  • @wmpx34
    @wmpx34 4 місяці тому +3

    If the Dust Bowl was predicted decades before it happened yet no one listened, should we expect enough people to listen now to make a difference? Humanity’s collective knowledge has increased dramatically in the past hundred years, but knowledge is not what will save us here. You have to somehow convince people to stop being so self-centered. And I don’t think that’s any easier nowadays than it was in 1902. If anything, it’s much more difficult to do in the age of social media.
    My armchair prediction is that the climate will keep slowly changing for the worse. Food production will crater, leading to worldwide social upheaval and mass starvation. The human population will plummet until it hits a point that our reduced agriculture can support. Our industrial production will be a shadow of what it formerly was, and the natural environment will begin to heal like we saw it do under COVID lockdowns.
    That’s assuming someone doesn’t perfect nuclear fusion to fuel the world’s energy addiction, of course. But I wouldn’t hold my breath. Guess we should have started on that Dyson sphere sooner rather than later.

    • @ak5659
      @ak5659 4 місяці тому +1

      A Dyson sphere would require. way more material than we have. A ringworld is a better choice.
      The Dust Powl was predicted well in advance? I didn't kno that. Thanks!

  • @jackchow397
    @jackchow397 2 місяці тому

    so glad I found this channel. Keep up the good work. It's crazy how so many people would rather bury their heads in the sand than to face the problem

    • @tuckerbugeater
      @tuckerbugeater 2 місяці тому

      this is a total lie and an excuse for mass migration

  • @madl1uck824
    @madl1uck824 4 місяці тому +18

    Trying to get to either Washington State , or West Virginia/Pennsylvania. Unfortunately nothing will change until the world is literally burning...but by then even with technological advances we would still have to wait centuries for any climate change reversal, IF our tech can even manage it at that point (Spoiler: Nah we are doomed lol)
    Action on a global scale would need to start now and fundamental change in society and also societal norms. If not then we have no real chance.
    This isn't even mentioning the climate refugees from the global south that the global north essentially middlefingered. So unchanged expect upwards of 500+ million dead at a minimum on current trajectory.
    It's sad man. As a Genz I can't even say I want to buy a house in x y z because past gens screwed up so bad. Now it's either "what gives me the best chance of survival in 20-50 years" or "flex , party, live fast and hope I die early enough for it to not matter later on" (aka Just give up which is actually rational...why stress when nothing concrete is being done)

    • @Pistolita221
      @Pistolita221 4 місяці тому

      Michigan is better than West Virginia, we have no fires and barely any tornadoes. It's the safest (from natural disaster), most resource secure state in the union. Maybe the world, if you weight natural resources and manufacturing. Auto, Herman Miller, iron, copper, salt, gypsum, limestone, gravel, clay, timber, etc. etc. etc. and obviously 2 of the top 10 largest bodies of fresh water in the world, with an overflow of 190,000 cubic feet per second. We're sitting pretty, here in MI. Our droughts are when the swamp dries up and the 80 ft deep local lake is 1 ft down, and the river is half as deep as usual. When you cut your lawn short during the drought, it can turn yellow, but if you leave it 4 inches tall, the morning dew keeps it hydrated.

    • @sc100ott
      @sc100ott 4 місяці тому +1

      As a Gen Z, you will be fine. Your generation will be fine. Your children’s generation will be fine. While some of the milder predictions may prove true, the extreme predictions never do. This is all based on computer modeling, which is only as good as the limited data provided. Humanity is extremely adaptable. Right now, millions, arguably billions of people live in areas which were largely uninhabitable 50-100 years ago, largely due to technology, and improved farming practices. Take a city like Phoenix, for example, or look at the current population boom of sub-saharan Africa. In 50-100 years, migration patterns will still be based on what they’ve always been based upon-mostly economic opportunity, and of course wars, which have been happening since before history. And remember, even today, more people die from extreme cold each year than extreme heat.

    • @madl1uck824
      @madl1uck824 4 місяці тому +2

      @@sc100ott
      I'll be real , it's less about the climate change and just frustration that nothing serious is being done about it today. And while yes I'll be "fine" I'll still face higher cost, greedy companies and tbh a more fascist world along with a alot of other issues. I guess the whole point is that it's been like 5-7k years( as far as we know) of modern history and it's like as a species we don't learn anything outside our tech and medicine. I don't think about this day to day cause I gotta live, but damn.
      Plus I'm concious enough to know if I can help the future gen no matter how small I will. That's one of the points. Yes I'll live my life but if they are coming into the world they need to be able to live too and not just survive.
      It's that kinda mentality that kinda screwed us into the first place.
      "We are adaptable"
      Yes so is a lot of animals. Unfortunately that doesn't stop them from going extint.
      Yes we are intelligent but the masses of lot of generations previous just thought that. That we would survive that their kids would find a way. In a way it's cool. Glad they have the confidence. On the other hand it's incredibly selfish.
      Imagine leaving your trash out and saying that someone else will handle it...except in this case we don't have garbage trucks to take it away.
      However you do have a point it's just a little off from what I was saying.

    • @comment8767
      @comment8767 4 місяці тому

      @@madl1uck824 "I am conscious enough..." Self-flattery....

    • @headfullofacid8088
      @headfullofacid8088 4 місяці тому

      I live in Pennsylvania it’s a nice place to live

  • @christophe5756
    @christophe5756 2 місяці тому

    Thank You for doing this work. This video can be updated, and built upon and could come to be considered as a guide to North American civilization. I’m sure that the changing climate’s affect on immigration via our southern boarder, as well as emigration across our northern border may be (understatedly) “significant”. Do you think it’s worth a look? Or, would you rather not touch it for the geopolitical lightning rod that it already is? -Excellent work! Thank You Again! 👍🏽👍🏽

    • @baneofbanes
      @baneofbanes 2 місяці тому

      At present it’s not, especially not immigration to Canada. Doesn’t hurt that Canada has extremely strict immigration laws.

  • @jonmce1
    @jonmce1 4 місяці тому +3

    THe reality is as most climatologists have stated the worst senario is almost a certainty. Not an American, but looking at the niche movement, the US is one of the lucky countries along with the EU despite the fact the USA and the EU including my country Canada who created most of the problem are getting off lightly. The US and EU have somewhere to go in country internally. India and much of Africa not so much. Both US and even more so EU will face massive migration. China's optimum moves into Russia. This will be catastrophismic creating massive migrations and disruptions of supply chains. Russia is the most vulnerable of the countries to migration that will have alternatives like US and EU.
    The difference below and above the lakes right now is amazing, while below the US has been depopulating, above is hugely increasing with Metro Toronto recently passing Chicago in popuation. Here, there are serious pressures for intensification partly because a green belt surrounds Toronto. I have to wonder also whether the natural drainage will be enough. Toronto was hit by a hurricane in 1952 which resulted in all exiating river valleys going into the lake being turned into parks, but they going to be enough?

    • @HuplesCat
      @HuplesCat 4 місяці тому

      The Beaches are toast and those condos on the lakeshore but not so far inland it will be dry. The big issue is crime as unemployment will go to 80% and food. If you can relocate north east but not near the popular cottage lakes

    • @alexei5543
      @alexei5543 4 місяці тому

      By definition, the "worst case scenario" is NOT "almost a certainty". Do you have any evidence to support this?

  • @bernadettetibazi7893
    @bernadettetibazi7893 2 місяці тому

    Marvelous!! Thank you! I’ve been looking for a synthesizing of all this information!

  • @simonwieser5525
    @simonwieser5525 4 місяці тому +4

    cool video
    Do you know if there are similar maps for europe?

    • @HuplesCat
      @HuplesCat 4 місяці тому

      Try your local university’s ecology department. Scientists love to chat to the public. They have loads of maps and data.

  • @matthewdouglas2373
    @matthewdouglas2373 Місяць тому

    Exactly what I’ve been thinking about lately.

  • @HerveMendell
    @HerveMendell 4 місяці тому +6

    This is an interesting phenomena, these migrations patterns. I consider myself an amateur sociologist, and I'm fascinated by cultural trends. So now there is the rise of the "alt-right." and they just really hate what they call "wokeism," that is identity politics of the Left. They also hate high taxes and regulations and are in love with their guns. A lot of these people are flocking to Florida, with Desantis as it's governor who has made as his platform a war against "wokeism." But these same people are also global warming deniers. They don't believe it's real, or its unimportant, or a plot by the "deep state" to bring in Socialism. (because there are Bolsheviks in the closets). These are also the same people who are scientifically illiterate, who think the Earth is only 5,000 yrs old and all the rest. Boy they got another thing coming. When global warming, really heating, really kicks in, and sea level rise and extreme heat makes Florida uninhabitable, what will they say then?

    • @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531
      @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531 4 місяці тому +3

      Obviously, they will blame it on abortion. Or gays. Or trans kids. Anything but what it really is, which is a set of deeply unrealistic lifestyle expectations.

    • @Predictbauer
      @Predictbauer 4 місяці тому +4

      Yea and you will be suprised when those very people who you’re ridicule no longer send their crops to the cities, and you end up in your 380 sqft govt subsidized smart coffin eating bioengineered slop, and having your thermostat regulated because of weather or something.

    • @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531
      @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531 4 місяці тому

      @@Predictbauer They ridicule themselves. Not a one of them can explain how putting trans kids into concentration camps would end inflation or solve the problem of undocumented workers in the US.

    • @_mfjones_
      @_mfjones_ 2 місяці тому

      This is how radical left usually reduce everyone to the right into one bucket, calling them alt-right.

  • @igunashiodesu
    @igunashiodesu 4 місяці тому +1

    Amazing presentation. Kuddos on making it engaging throughout its entirety!

  • @heavymetalpermaculture
    @heavymetalpermaculture 4 місяці тому +6

    Where do cites get their food though? No such thing as a sustainable city.

    • @Pistolita221
      @Pistolita221 4 місяці тому +4

      Cities are essential for the modern world, cars, electronics, telecommunications, etc. all require cities to operate. The megacorps need cities, too. Cities are SO productive, but yes, they don't grow their own food. You don't design, manufacture and assemble your own cars in the country, though.

    • @Sharukurusu
      @Sharukurusu 4 місяці тому +2

      See the rest of this channel, he goes into a lot of design principles for higher density development with localized food production.

    • @heavymetalpermaculture
      @heavymetalpermaculture 4 місяці тому

      @@Pistolita221 The modern world is at direct odds with our survival on Earth...
      How are cities productive for nature? Paving forests and wetlands destroys where food and productivity come from. We're in a mass extinction, the Anthropocene.

    • @karnubawax
      @karnubawax 4 місяці тому

      @@Sharukurusu I'm sorry but that's a pipe dream. There is simply no way a modern city like the SF Bay Area for instance is going to be able to produce food for 7 million people.

    • @Sharukurusu
      @Sharukurusu 4 місяці тому

      @@karnubawax London had 6.6mil in 1900, unless you think we’re reverting to deep preindustrial levels I don’t think city size is as impossible as you think. We do need to reincorporate agriculture into city limits and restructure farming to not degrade land though.

  • @erinfuller1827
    @erinfuller1827 2 місяці тому

    Excellent video, thank you! I was opening the website to check my area while you talked.

  • @hilarypardi7330
    @hilarypardi7330 3 місяці тому +3

    The opposite of everything Florida is doing

  • @TheIllestDubie
    @TheIllestDubie 2 місяці тому +2

    Economic equity is not a realistic goal, given the rest of the system independent of climate

  • @xdanbo1859
    @xdanbo1859 4 місяці тому +5

    Looks like Wisconsin and Michigan are the place to be.

    • @joegaines8826
      @joegaines8826 2 місяці тому

      Any where in the Great Lakes watershed is a good place to live. Remember 20% if the worlds fresh water is in the great lakes.

    • @xdanbo1859
      @xdanbo1859 2 місяці тому +2

      @@joegaines8826 Why Michigan has the best location. Entire land mass is in the GL watershed. Most of the other states that touch the GL have little land in the watershed. Exception is NY and WI, but most of NY is in the Hudson Valley watershed and 2/3rds of WI is in the Mississippi watershed; IL and MN are even more so in the Mississippi watershed. Most of OH and IN are in the Ohio River watershed.

    • @joegaines8826
      @joegaines8826 2 місяці тому

      @@xdanbo1859 Good point.

  • @psiga
    @psiga 2 місяці тому

    Excellently composed and presented, thank you. This is making me consider and _reconsider_ a lot!

  • @cartwrightworm1317
    @cartwrightworm1317 4 місяці тому +6

    Looks like northern Illinois has it pretty good. Too bad we’re going to be swamped by climate refugees.

  • @celieboo
    @celieboo 4 місяці тому +1

    "Reduce the amount of concrete in cities." YESSS!
    I live in Fishers, IN. The population groth of Hamilton county is crazy and it is evidenced by the ever reducing natural sponge that is farm land. It is being turned into overpriced, luxury housing developments and roads. One particular frustrating thing is that the Fishers city council reduced the required amount of greenspace for new developments. Retention ponds don't as good of a job as the natural spong that is farm land and older parts of some communities are experience flooding in springs with heavyier rain.
    Carmel does really well with balancing new development with greenspace. Fishers and Noblesville haven't met a tree they didn't feel that needed to be cut down.

  • @andrewlm5677
    @andrewlm5677 4 місяці тому +9

    This is interesting but I think it begs the question of whether the distribution of people in the United States is, or has ever been, consistent with what a model like this would predict. There are many places with very unpleasant weather where people live already - Phoenix in the summer or Upstate New York in the winter - they stay for many reasons
    The predictions for 2070 deserve skepticism (the data is too noisy for us to make a near term prediction we might be judged against but trust us that our predictive capabilities are better for 50 years out) and the speculation regarding the human costs seem very pessimistic. I tend to think the way humanity has managed to make AZ livable is through technology and that we will continue to do so
    As for the “right way” for human development to occur, being able to have your own property and space around yourself that the suburbs provide compared with living in densely packed cities is one of the great equalizers provided in America. It is a joy only the super rich could enjoy in Europe. The car and highway system are a necessary means to facilitate this. You call it a problem but it is essential. Too often, the answer from the environmentalist is to demand people accept a lower quality of life and then to scold and attempt to shame the populace when they don’t accept the proposition. The continued use of this approach makes me suspect the purpose of the efforts are more for the positive effects they get from trying than for actually achieving any positive result

    • @karnubawax
      @karnubawax 4 місяці тому

      See: California

    • @andrewlm5677
      @andrewlm5677 4 місяці тому +1

      @@karnubawax Can you be more specific? California can be an example of so many things (good and bad)

  • @Dreamville12-pb5sg
    @Dreamville12-pb5sg 4 місяці тому +5

    Guys…this counts us citizens, imagine how many climate refugees would come from Latin America….

    • @Encephalitisify
      @Encephalitisify 4 місяці тому +3

      They already are

    • @karnubawax
      @karnubawax 4 місяці тому

      Don't have to imagine it since the elites threw the border open.

  • @kevinsips3658
    @kevinsips3658 2 місяці тому

    I read “Out of the Dust”, a book about living in Oklahoma in the 30’s, in elementary school. A very tragic and sad book.