FINALLY Protoss discover their strongest upgrade! StarCraft 2
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- Опубліковано 28 лис 2024
- StarCraft 2 Tournament 2024 - BGE - Showtime vs Solar - Protoss vs Zerg - Showtime's awesome Protoss defense is tested by Solar's endless Zerg aggression in this epic StarCraft 2 series!
*Upgrading protoss isn't a new strategy, but such a religious commitment to upgrades is rare and i only feel a little bad about the clickbait but they were good games so please don't hate me too much
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The last game: "When I'm ahead, and I want to lose, I build Ultralisks"
Ultralisks? More like Ultrarisks, am I right?
@@testthewest123😂
The bonus games are absolutely brilliant. Video length doesn't spoil the series, and we always get our daily dose, not cut short! I hope you'll keep casting for as long as I live.
Oh, and even if there is begging involved, you well deserve every single like and subscribe.
Possible queen name: Regina. Possible queen death nickname: Regina-cide.
"Regina! No!!!... and there's the first Reginacide of this match."
No chance of a Terran winning? You get my like for that alone.
19:09 The neighborhood watch has a lot asked of them, and they come through. *Serious stare.*
😂
Wow that last game was nutty. I guess eight immortals with plus three can basically one-shot ultras, or close to it. Damn
ShoWTimE is the best Protoss chance to win big events on LAN imo, he just need to keep it together in the big games. And a bigger balance change for PvT would help too
Great games, great commentary as always
what about herO ?
@@adminsaify her0 is amazing but he has so many holes in his game, he has the ability to do it but I don’t know if he will hit his prime form again. But I don’t see anyone other than those two. Classic and Creator are good but I don’t see them doing it, Maxpax might not ever go to lan, potentially Skillous if you give it a few more years but he isn’t there yet
I feel like the way to counter that first game as Zerg is to commit to a lot of mutalisks. Brood lords lose vs tempests, banelings would require better creep spread, ultras get blasted by the anti-armor, reasonable numbers of spellcasters get sniped by the tempests, and lurkers were clearly only about even at best.
There was a section in the mid game where zerglings kept that army back at home rather than contesting new bases, and I think in the late game mutas would be the only way to continue that pattern. Hyper-mobile mining denial and just avoiding that army seem like the best way to deal with it
The beacons are lit! I love when Winter plays that theme 😂
That was hands down the MOST impressive Protoss series I think I've ever seen. Showtime seems to have cracked the code for dealing with Zerg. I thought the series against Solar was amazing enough, but at the end of the bonus game I couldn't even believe what I was seeing. Best use of stasis wards EVER. Great games for the fans indeed, Winter! Thanks!
Up to this day, when Winter says Die Mauer I hear "Dimaga" and remember him. Do you remember Dimaga?
Do we?? Sure: he was an amazing player!
Thanks for all the PvZ lately, I can only watch so many games of ghosts vs the world.
Ghosts in SC2 are about as broken as the ghost army in LOTR 3
But you have to admit the cat fight between Kerrigan and Nova was the best cg cheescake ever!
Besides, only Serral consistently counters a dozen Ghosts with a single burrowed Infestor, and it's hit or miss, but Infestors counter Ghost in equal numbers, alá Thermy.
@@SD-jf7nb Ah the good ol' days, when Blizzard was a small independent company :)
@@SD-jf7nb I just hate how one unit counters every other late game unit including itself... we can only hope more terrans mech it happen
the first and last game are trully incredible !! for different reasons
Im glad to see a Protoss winning with a shield upgrade into air units strategy. Such an undervaluated upgrade !
5:00 Winter, FICSIT is not impressed with your pioneering work ethic. Return to work immediately, or FICSIT will be forced to take an appropriate number of hours from your sustenance supply income. The saving of Humanity should be your first priority.
5:00 This literally made me laugh. Take a like and subscribe and get back to playing Satisfactory you goon! :D
Nothing like a hard week of work! ..Coming home and watching my Fresh meat Sc2 Casting! ...I May fall asleep watching it, but.. i'll wake up and have no PROBElem watching it again anyways....Thank you Winter for all you hard work! and Dedication to your Channel!!
same, man. i fall asleep but then wake up and start it all over again haha
Love how Showtime has played the match against Solar. Pure domination !!
Can Archons be eviscerated without guts? This is why Lurkers hate Archons... ;)
i love how winter weaves in bits and pieces of lore: “…we saw how that worked out on Aiur, and the protoss are Still complaining about it” 😂😂😂 Kids these days don’t even know…
I'm here always with WINTER
Man, that last game was amazing. I thought Reynor had that in the bag after that last attack. Love it when it's a surprise.
Carriers and a-move for me. ALL of us will be in the wreckage, brother. Micro? What's that?
Finally. I’m top 50% in something.
The best 50%
That last game was amazing 😮😮😮
Loved the Satisfactory reference! that game has also made me a Happy SCV building for Terran FIXIT
No Terran spamming drops, widow mines and liberators? Yeah this is a like
Can I just say that thumbnail art is so freaking cool?!
I am not a competitive starcraft player at all, and I don't even watch the games, but I gotta say the comedy in these casts is gold so I end up watching
Those Immortals were just chewing through Ultralisks like they were nothing. It was mad. Maybe brood lord transition was the way to go when Raynor noticed that there was critical number of immortals.
Spoilers for the final game:
In the bonus game Reynor makes a Spire at 13 minutes (55:51), I assume to make a tech switch into Brood Lords, but then he spends all his larvae on zerglings as it is finishing up. Then he researches Flyer-attack 1 and never makes a single corruptor. If that extra wave of zerglings were Brood Lords instead then I think he would have had it there.
he was looking for the killing move. if he made broodlords instead of zerglings, the game would have slowed down, and gave a better opportunity for Showtime. But hey, we will never know ^^
An offering for our lord Albert G. Rhythm
I realized toss lost and its just a matter of time ultras finish him. Rolled forward last game.... WHAT?!!!!😂 Great games, great commentary.
Thank God for the new faction color green! ❤❤❤
Hey winter! Long time viewer here, and I love a little bronze league heroes and those Florencio casts😂
It’s been over a month since the last bronze league cast and way longer since the last Florencio cheese and I’d love to see more!
There was a bronze league heroes video 4 days ago. There have also been bronze league heroes games after his pro game commentaries as the anti-spoiler bonus game at the end.
Dear Al Goreythm, please let this post appease you so that Winter can make another video.
25:28 hahahahha please dont. It is indeed a questionable idea
The bonus game might actually be better than the main!!! Damn amazing
PROTOSS VINDICATION!!! Dude it feels so good to see after so many toss losses to the swarm
Much ❤, always puts a smile on my face to see your new videos.
Hell yeah!
What a comeback in the last match!!
You have to love showtime for this :)
If I'm in the best of the 50% of viewers this time. I'll probably be in it next time. Otherwise I don't know what I'd watch.
Came for the great games.
Stayed for Brenda's sassiness with The Knitting Crew™.
Winter are you gonna be streaming or recording Satisfactory content for YT? The new 1.0 update looks dope and I would totally watch Winter develop the engines of industry
“Protoss vision is based on movement” 😂😂😂
Day 63 for our Brenda t shirt.
"Get off my CREEP!"
thanks winter making my day a little bit better
Havent played satisfactory in a long time, distanced for a number of a reasons (wont watch either) but glad to hear you're enjoying
Love ShoWTimE!
What about just adding more vipers with the hydra lurker and skipping the corruptor?
We in here!!!
Winter seems to be in a mood today
Winter has a cold, or he's blooming
We went nearly 30 minutes before mentioning Dark in a game where wasn't a player. That has to be a record
I love your videos, keep up the good work.
Last game, HOLY......
Love it!
When winter misses the cancel on the baneling nest and the cancel on the spire *facepalm* :/
Bro didn't even make it past Sekiro's Ogre lol
proud of showtime for this one
Speramus Meliora; Resurget Cineribus!
I wanna see you factory :o get boombox :D some bg music helps
Added my like
Wouldn’t in make sense to be able to plop storms down on top of stasis-ed units? Just trying to live in-world.
That first game ,
They needed to make their armies meet after lunch and fight it out
Zzzzzzzzz😮
I swear i just saw this match the other day.
I wish you would make it more clear which match you get the video title from...
And then, the firenation attacked
Thank You
Om nom nom
43:25 archon sentry immortal hit that has upgrade and supply advantage over roach hydra, oof
If you aaaaah wanna record some Satisfactory, I know one guy who wants to see his favorite caster play such a game.
You should check out his other channel Wintergamingtv, he has been streaming satisfactory there
Those 3 Hydra tho 😅
Since showtime vs gumi i love showtime protoss
Satisfactory ftw.
we need more sc evo!!
Tricycle? more like Trycycle. Just say Trippacle!
Nice to see ShowTime in such good form, thx for showing off these games Winter.
The 50% :)
SC2 on steam would be great that'll at least tell me how long I've been playing
I mean they shorten the time for protoss upgrades for a reason amirght?
urwrong
Top 50% baby :D
U*L*tra*L*isk
first
Jimmy got a hold of the keyboard again 😂
@@marinav3905 i always thought that jimmy was winter's editor i looked it up on reddit and found out the jimmy is his cat :)
No fair Jimmy
@@Hwrackham Jimmy don't care, he do what he want.
no way
How have you remained so good? Your casts have been the very best for as long as I can remember
I am the best 505%, yay! XD
I don't understand zerg players who go mass lurkers and then don't build nydus, at least as an escape route to avoid losing their investment?
Crazy right, Sc2 skill ceiling is high, but that's a simple fix
They are (were?) not that much slower than Roach\Hydra, can constrain former to some degree, keep you from derping into mines, etc., cover the retreat, but wrecked by snipe.
So you put 'em in front of your army and collide, burrow, tab to fung, you'll lose some but it's war son.
Some suggestions, please share your thoughts
Zerg
- burrow is granting +3 armor for burrowed units
- lurkers -25hp
- ultras are able to walk through allied small units ( zergling, hydras,…) but still blocked by bigger units ( queens, lurkers,…)
- abduction from the viper doesn’t work against big units as thors,battlecruisers,ultras,carriers,mothership,colossus ( therefore-10 energy cost)
- extra upgrade for +1hp/sec reg for corrupters. Cost for upgrade 50min/175gas/45sec? Research in spire
- extra upgrade for + 1 dmg for hydras against air ( 100/125/60sec) in hydra den
Terran:
- no mules anymore
- + 10 hp/ +1 armor for SUV’s
- Stim last 2 sec less and does 5 damage more. Increase of Attack- and movementspeed -15%
- -combat shield upgrades takes 30 seconds longer but increases armor by 1
- +0.5 seconds to make an attack after movement stop for marines, mauraders and ghosts to reduce usage of „stutterstep“
- Ghost emp just 75 damage flat on Protoss shields/ no revealing of dark templars
- ghost snipe energy costs + 30 energy
- No advanced ballistic upgrade for liberators
- Widowmine single target damage reduced by 35 dmg
- Extra armor upgrade for siegetanks, thors and battlecruisers + 2 armor. Research in armory ( 125/145/60 sec)
- Extra upgrade for battlecruisers. + 2 damage/ - 10 sec for Yamato gun. Research in fusion core ( 125/175/45)
- -1 weapon range for anti air attack of Vikings/ no extra dmg against mech units when landed.
- Extra upgrade for + 1 building armor ( 100/100/50 sec) in engineering bay. Requirementfor neosteel armor upgrade
Protoss:
- zealots + 0.7movementspeed
- Charge upgrade costs 15/15 less and is granting -0.7 movementspeed less
- Upgrade for +1 energy regeneration for sentry/ phoenix/ oracle in cybercore for 175/175/60 sec
- Void rays + 20 shield and passive +3 dmg against heavy units. Losing prismatic alignment ability
- Tempest + 1 movementspeed/+ 20% rotation speed
- Warp prism + 20 shield
- Mass recall + 2 radius field and is getting executed 1.5 sec quicker
- + 1 movementspeed for high Templar and dark Templar
- Dark Templar starting with shadow strike ability
- Dark Templar building time + 15 seconds
- dark Templar + 10 dmg
- Observers are built now in nexus but requires a robotic facility
- Carrier’s Interceptors getting built automatically and don’t cost resources. Therefore carrier cost increases by 50/50.
Impact ( without practical informations):
ZvP:
Ultras are better in combination with ling/hydra/bane. Lurkers are easier to zone with storms/disruptors .corrupters can easier recover from storms.vipers are less attractive against Protoss late game air. Therefore fungal +microbius +hydras are more interesting.
High Templar are better in zoning. Dark Templars are more harder to get eliminated.
TvZ:
Lategame zerg has more options. Ultras are harder to deflect. Battlecruisers are an lategame option that is hard to fight ( fully upgraded). Straight up fights are harder for marines because of a less efficient stim. Same for early/ mid game marine-drops. Lategame is still good for Terran ( extra upgrades for heavy units and buildings. )
TvP:
Dark Templar harder to chase. High Templar more likely to zone ghosts/ ghosts aren’t a hard counter for Protoss army. Zealots are more efficient in early game. Zoning colossus and disruptiors is harder.
General:
Terrans :
has to play more carefully with their marine-drops. Army movement and commitments to fights has to get planned more careful. Still being strong, hindering other races on building up Lategame army is more important. Economy has to get defend more. Economic harassment is less cost efficient.No mules is a big impact but therefore suvs are more durable against run by. Against Zerg the ultras will be more of a problem, ghosts or not. But therefore marines and buildings as well as thors/ tanks and battlecruisers can be more tanky.against Protoss are some strategic adaptations needed like different unit compositions.
Protoss:
A lot of tiny changes. Result should be that there is more potential in micro management for certain units like templars and tempests. Some more flexibility in tactics and some adjustments that make the Protoss army more smoothly to play. Units in general by stats are often good enough but the army in general lacks the little bit of something to keep up with the other races. Now the observers are not blocking the queue to build battle units anymore or the recalled units have a better chance to escape. Dark Templars should be a costly and rare harassment tool that is a pain in the b…
Zerg:
Lurkers are less tanky against ability dmg like snipe/ storm or novas but almost the same against standard attacks ( if burrowed)
Ultras are easier to combine/ include into the rest of the swarm.
Viper abduction is not helpful against heavy hitters anymore.
Corrupters can be more “long lasting” in skirmishes.
For your info: I play every race so I’m not a fanboy of one specific. Maybe my thoughts are not perfect but in some ways worth to consider and has to proof itself in practice.
10 hp and 1 armour on scvs would make me just run my starting 12 to the enemy spawn for an instant win
So maybe provide the extra stats for suv by a researched upgrade to „delay“ the bonus?
Or no change on suv at all?
@@trsthirtyfive8765 could grant the bonuses only when close to command centre
@@trsthirtyfive8765 i was thinking apply the bonus only when near cc
great
I like when Zerg loses, except for serral.
The Zerg race is being destroyed by having the best SC2 player use it. If Serral was a protoss or terran player those races would be getting all the nerfs. Just wait, soon the terrans will be nerfed cause Clem is so dominate.
Zerg will simply be forced to adapt by growing eyes in the back of their heads.
The Litch King lives. 🌎🦊☠️
Nice
Gas is too good
patricia? is that ednas older sister?
Shields up
I automatically upvote when Terran isn’t in the match.
Ghost counter their counter. *Snipes overseer*
Why, what don't you enjoy about ghost Vs Zerg or ghost Vs Protoss?
@@ThaDenz69 bc Ghosts punish to severly any little errors of protoss and zerg. If zerg don t look their army 1/2s, Ghost lock and Snipe everythings... Then loose. (Sry for english)
I automatically upvote when Orcs aren't in the match
I mean i didn't know we were on reddit but good for you
ultralisks face to immortal is a joke
showtime kinda just jabbed solar to death in game 1
omg 2 protoss wins?! is it my birthday?
No, it's the same person
Top 50% 😎🥳
brooooo nooooo play Factorio get used to it so you can be ready for the DLC Space age!