Manufacturers should legally be BANNED from making sealed tub machines. it is not cheaper and is only done so that they can deliberately engineer a failure just out of warranty period. It is fraud.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 My own machine has just failed, the drum has seized solid and not only is it a sealed tub, there is very little flange to even try and drill screw holes through for bolts. Engineered that way on purpose no doubt.... otherwise, I'd have had a go at doing this. Manufacturers simply should not be allowed to make sealed tubs... but of course, they will respond to that by increasing the price up to the £600 level - which is where you CAN get a machine with a tub you can dismantle!
Peter i had already replaced this machine when it broke down, just thought I would have a go at repairing the unit after reading all of the blogs stating that it is a sealed unit. Not sure why they call it an Eco-Tub as it is far from economical to the consumer when it goes wrong.Brought a Bosch washer dryer for £900 which has a split (dismantle type) tub.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 Yeah I might have a go at it just for the sake of it... next time I can afford to I will be doing the same as you, investing money in a split-tub machine, probably a Bosch! The bastard is before this we had a Whirlpool which did have a split tub... it lasted 12 years and the spider snapped from metal corrosion. Whirlpool wanted £200 for a new drum.. and I wish i'd paid it now as everything was replaceable.. Replaced it with another cheaper Whirlpool that just lasted 2 years before the bearing went, and before I knew about the sealed drum thing. The machine that's just gone wrong is a Beko, but at least it was a freebie!
Hi, I've just successfully replaced the bearings in my hotpoint as a result of copying this brilliant video. The only things I did slightly different are that I drilled the holes for the new screws before I sawed the flange and used a hand saw, I don't have a power saw, it took a little longer but no big deal. I also used a sealant instead of glue because that's what I had available and as you said its just to seal not stick (the screws hold it all together). anyway money is tight and this has saved me a small fortune (a new machine basically) so a big thanks and I wish you well. Gerry
Gerry Holmes Well done Gerry. I just used what I had available also, but and if the Sealant does the job then so be it. Your right, drilling the holes prior sounds like an easier way. Glad to help and kindest regards, Dave.
Thanks a lot, I saved many euro's thanks to your video. It's a shame that the comsumer has to recycle , while manufacturers make evrything to throw away, just to increase their sales. Greetings from Belgium
Hi, your repair with screws still holding up? My bearings are done too and of course, the tube is sealed. But I don't know if this type of repair last over time. Thank you.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 Ja das wäre ich schon. Aber wenn der Bottich verklebt ist schmeiß ich die Mühle weg. Das tu ich mir nicht an. Ich habe noch 2 Maschinen in der Werkstatt die noch verschraubt bottiche haben. Sind halt alt aber laufen noch.
This is a great video. Many thanks for taking the time to make it. I’ve just done my Hotpoint WML520 sealed drum. Here are some additional things people may want to consider. 1. Do drill the drum weld first before cutting open. I used a 3mm drill and made holes approx every 75mm (3”) I used this hole size to maximise the sealing width for the adhesive (Because the weld width is very narrow - approx 8 to 10mm.) 2. I decided to use self tapping screws instead of bolts to clamp and hold the drum halves together and I ‘pre-tapped’ each hole with a screw before cutting the drum apart to make assembly easier and quicker. Self tappers are cheap and easy and clamped the halves really well after gluing. (But don’t over tighten) 3.Do use a reciprocating saw. (An air saw may be better though.) Be careful not to damage the steel drum inside. Don’t bother using a multi tool, the blade gets too hot and melts the plastic. (As I discovered!) 4. Use the edge of a Stanley knife or similar to de- burr all of the plastic around the weld surfaces. ( the small burrs could get between the surfaces when gluing together.) 5. I got my bearings and main seal from a local engineering supplier. £15. Quality bearings too. Hotpoint didn’t stock bearings for my machine as it was a sealed drum. (But they sell the drum at around £200 😱) 6. Wash all soap sludge from the drum halves etc with a car pressure washer. (It cleans it really well and is quick.) And properly clean the drum spindle until it shines (use rotary wire brush in a drill for the steel but only wire wool or similar on the brass ferrule at the base of the spindle . The brass bit is important, it must be really clean and undamaged because the main seal runs on this. I used car brake cleaner to give the spindle a final wash before assembly and then a good squirt of silicone spray to help it go together. Turn the drum as you push it in the last bit to help the seal go onto the brass ferrule. 7. DO make sure the back of the bearing sleeve/retainer is supported on a block of wood or similar when banging in the bearings. The sleeve is only held in plastic and therefore could be broken free or seriously damaged. Put a longer bit of wood into the metal drum when knocking in the smaller back bearing too. 8. I ended up using white Evo Stik adhesive to glue the drum together. I’m sure the pu Gorilla glue is great, but the Evo has good reviews, is waterproof and has a temperature range of up to 100 degrees C. 9. When applying the glue, just be careful not to put too much on, because you won’t be able to clean or remove the ‘squidge’ inside the drum when assembled. This could potentially cause problems if the squidge breaks off later on and blocks the pump etc. Obviously you need enough glue though to create a proper seal. 10. It’s probably worth considering investing in a new door seal while the drum is out (£20) Much easier to but on the inner spring! My door seal was quite disgusting when I looked in all the nooks and crannies! 11. Give the drum glue the minimum of 24hrs curing time before using. Be patient! Anyway, mine is all done now and working a dream. A lot of effort I suppose, but it should be good for many years to come. Hope this helps!
Thanks Lawt, no you cannot buy Bearings and Seal off the shelf for a Sealed Tub or Eco-Tub as they are not designed to be replaced. Lawt see this more up to date video of how to install bearings on a sealed tub; ua-cam.com/video/HKFX0B-5fPU/v-deo.htmlsi=xWq2lRsKjDcssERM
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 Granted, Hotpoint don’t sell the bearings. But my bearings and seal were readily available off the shelf at my local engineering/bearing supplier. They were all common bearings and sizes, so we’re in stock.
Thanks for this! A new drum assembly for my Whirlpool is £216, the bearings are only about £15. I'd taken the whole thing apart only to find that it was a sealed drum and realised that if I had a spare £216, I might as well have ust bought a new machine. A few minutes with my old Black and Decker Jigsaw and now I am just working the bearings out! The Jigsaw isn't the best but it did the job easily with a wood cutting blade.
Hi Nicola, Fair play to you and i hope you complete successfully. I also removed the Tub on my unit initially only to discover it was sealed and a replacement Tub was not cost effective, hence the video. I think whatever is used to split the Tub is not relevant so long as it is successful, prior to starting mine I watched a video by Kevin Frost and he used an Angle Grinder, and you are right you could pretty much buy a brand new machine for the price of a new Tub. Good luck. Kindest Regards.
Great video!! I tackled my Beko machine after watching this and I was amazed I fixed it. Finding the replavement bearings was simple but the seal required a fair bit og Googling. Just to add - I used a hacksaw to cut open the plastic drum so don't worry if you don't have an electric one. Keep up the good work!!
Andy West Hi Andy, superb. Glad that you were successful. Whatever you use to split the tub is not relevant so long as it gets the job done.I watched Kevin Frost video originally and he used an Angle Grinder. And yes sourcing the correct bearings and seal can require some research. Well done M8. Regards, Dave.
I've just found out my washing machine is sealed and as a result finding replacement bearings for Beko Wl1573 is proving near on imposdible. Nice video
Hi Metratone, Commiserations, however there are no Bearings or Seal listed for an Eco or Sealed Tub as they are not designed to be replaced. You have to measure the old ones once you have removed them then request the sizes from an online Bearings supplier. Regards.
Most bearings have model numbers on them (i. e 6201 etc. ) Then there is no need to measure, just give the numbers to the bearing supplier. Better still, take the old bearings in with you or send them.
Brilliant Just a few more tips on how to do this Job which takes time but is not difficult really. Watch all the Videos on this first As you dismantle the washing machine take video or photos at each stage before you unscrew things, disconnect wires or unbolt things, that way you won't be struggling when it comes to re assembling the machine. more is better than less, trust me. Before you cut the drum mark the drum with a Sharpie pen in several places this will aid re assembly, and drill 4mm holes at about 100mm (4inch) centres all round the lip where you are going to cut, you can buy a long, 4mm drill bit, 120mm long from Screwfix (about £3.00 for 2) while you are there buy the 4mm Stainless lock nuts (£3.00) and 30mm long Bolts (also about £3.00) You might need to buy some Vernier Calipers to accurately measure the old bearing sizes, more on this later. When you are drilling the holes test the first one with a nut and bolt to make certain you can get it in and do it up you when you come to re assemble, this will prevent you from drilling in the wrong vertical plane. Cutting the Drum. I opted for using a hacksaw, which will cut all the way round the drum, I have power tools but you are in better control with a hand tool. It took just under an hour, quick tea break included. You will need a waterproof sealant when you put the drum back together. I used Aqua Mate Sealant.(£5.00) Knock out the outer bearing first, so from the inside out, using a metal drift, it takes a bit of whacking before it comes out. Then from the outside knock out the inner bearing, the water seal comes out with the bearing when you do this. Now you have your bearings and seal out measure them with a good mm rule or the Verner capilers, you need, inner diameter, outer diameter and thickness in each case. I then ordered them from Wych Bearings (about £20.00 the lot)on line. I did this job in the morning about 11.00 and so was able to just get them the next day just using standard first class post. There is a helpline if you are not sure what you want. I put the new bearings in the freezer for a couple of hours (Metal contracts in cold) and kept the drum in the sun (Metal expands in heat) to make it easier to knock them in .follow the videos for this but use wood blocks because any metal on metal blows will damage your new bearings. Use loads of sealant on the drum before you put the two bits together. Line it all up and put in the nuts and bolts you have plenty of time to do them up tight. I let my drum and sealant cure for 24 hours after, but it can be done faster I think. Then just re assemble it all. Hope you took enough photoes......!!!
Brilliant, many thanks. Didn't realise it was a sealed tub until it was out and I couldn't see any screws... LOL Having a go at the job now. Fingers crossed I can do it and avoid having to buy a new one. All thanks to your video, take a well earned bow sir.
Snap! Derek, That's exactly how I found out. Never heard of a Sealed Tub prior. Already brought a replacement machine, but then thought' Nothing Ventured...... Regards.
brilliant . I just took my machine apart with a view to repairing the bearings..just to find its a sealed unit f...k...w...k... you have given me renewed motivation
Thanks ...I bet that because its a sealed unit they do not sell the bearings or something like that !! It also got me wondering about all these different load machines...I bet all the bearings are the same size ..So if you buy a 10 kg machine you have not got a bigger bearing ..just an over loaded one ...
Paul Brasted Just measured the old bearings inner and outer diameter / thickness, seal also then requested these sizes from an online bearings supplier.
Double snap, I did exactly the same thing, was wondering what my next move was, then watched your video, now I know what to do next, and was going to ask what glue you used but read a few comments and found out, will probably use some high temp engine gasket sealer and nut and bolt it back together. Thanks for the video and inspiration 👍
Sandy Rowle Thanx Alex’ @ the moment I’m editing a newer and more detailed version of this video with more emphasis on the Bearings which should answer a lot of the questions frequency asked. Regards.
I know this is an old video but well done mate! Almost all new machines now are sealed tub so this video is even more relevant today! When you think we're supposed to be aiming for a sustainable future it's absolutely crazy manufacturers would do something so obviously malicious and wasteful. Love the safety crocs btw, are they steel toe and midsole? 😂 😂😂
Thanks John, there’s a more updated version here ua-cam.com/video/rvjRUx1kAvU/v-deo.html and your totally correct, these so called Eco Tubs will result in even more Landfill as most people won’t go to this effort. The Crocs are just my channel name, mine are not even genuine, just cheap foam. Health & Safety would have a field day if something went wrong 😎.
Your hoover drum is identical to my Hotpoint Aquarius one, i tried gorilla glue and to be honest i do not believe it to be a good adhesive, i like the fact it expands but was not impressed with how easy the drum was to separate the second time around(looks like a slower version of expanding foam), my recommendation is to use a polyurethane adhesive sealer like Tiger Seal by U-POL, this adhesive is extremely strong and can be used on many different materials, it also can be layed in a bead about 10mm high should you need it....
HiddenAgenda2012 Hi HiddenAgenda. Your correct, this is a Hotpoint Drum not Hoover, editting error. TheTub is bolted together with nuts and bolts, the Gorilla Glue is used as a Seal and helps to hold the unit together also. Whatever you choose to use so long as it is adequate it will suffice. Thanx, Dave.
Hi Michael and Thanx. The bearings £11.50p, Glue £6.00p and the Nuts & Bolts £1.00p. Time a couple of hours but then you have to allow the glue to dry over night. ☺
Can anyone help me I've got a hotpoint Wmfug842p and the bearings are going the noise is unbearable I've got the drum case out just need to saw round the casing as there is no screws around the case.....is it possible to be fixed and can you tell me the right bearing size I need for this...it's such a shame just to chuck it away as I've only had it over 12 months..... thanks
A very common question Chris. Measured the old Bearings diameter, radius and thickness the Seal also then requested the sizes from an online Bearings supplier. Regards.
Hi thanks for the video dude I did things slightly different to you as I drilled the holes while the drum was still sealed and I didn't use glue I used a high heat engine silicone I put a generous coat on both parts and let it start to harden before I joined them and then used nuts and bolts for the perfect water tight seal. Can i ask why you used glue cos if the bearings go again you will have to cut it again with the use of silicone you can just peel it off
Thanx Jeff, I used this glue because of its water resistant qualities and it helps to adhere the two halves together like the manufacturer had done initially, I would imagine that this would be easier to cut through in the even of another failure. You are correct, its best to drill you bolt holes prior to cutting the Tub apart, but this was my first gig. See my more recent attempt. ua-cam.com/video/rvjRUx1kAvU/v-deo.html Regards.
Hello there. I did this same job some years ago on the split tub hotpoint washer/ dryer. I am now going to do it again on a sealed type tub for a friend. What struck me when I did it the first time round was that in between the two bearings is quite a lot of space that could have been partly filled with grease. There are special greases on the market that work in water like that which is used in small boats, so I thought that I would give it a go. What do you think, is it worth doing, or am I going to end up with grease on the washing. On another daft idea. It would be very easy for me to fit a flexible pipe that would connect the space between the bearings to a grease point on the side of the washer casing so that grease could be put into the bearings with a grease gun when they started to get a little noisy. OH! YES, great video which has inspired me to do what I was told was impossible to do, thanks.
Thanks Robert, Waterproof Grease is something I have not heard of until now, and you may as you have stated end up with Grease on the clothes. just need a good Seal really as this is what caused the Bearings to fail. Once you remove the old Bearings and Seal you have to measure them and then request the sizes from an online bearings supplier as you will not find Bearings and a Seal listed for a sealed Tub. Regards.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 I thought that I would order the bearings from an engineering suppliers. I always find SKF bearing very good and it may be better to use them rather than some cheaper ones with no name on them. Many thanks for your help.
nice work, did similar a month ago on a 14 year old indesit and its still going. You cant glue the drum plastic ( ok you can with a primer), I just used gasket sealant and bolts every 100mm. had to cut my bearings out with a dremel. Bearing brothers, the bearings are in standard sizes so if you measure them within a mm your unlikley to get it wrong. The water (oil) seal was the hard bit but in the end I got a simillar size and the lip profile didnt matter. The seal had a maker and size embossed on it but wasn't still available. wish I has an electric saw ! but a one sided hacksaw maybe gives a thinner cut.
Doing this work today. . I only seem to have been able to remove one outer bearing and an obliterated inner.. but the kit seems to have 3 bits.. 2 bearings and a metal ring with rubber seal.. doesn't resemble anything on mine... did you replace 2 bearings? Or 3 parts... ???.
Hi Phillip, you can see that the inner Bearings which I removed in this video also disintegrated. Yes I only replaced the Bearings and Seal on this one and these had to be ordered once they where removed as being a Sealed Tub there are no replacement Bearings listed for this machine. However, I did replace the Spider on a Bosch machine which has the replacement type, this has the Metal and Rubber Shims which I think you are referring too. Click on this link; ua-cam.com/video/Ot9GZQ4U4KE/v-deo.html these where refitted in the order in which they came off. Kindest Regards.
woah !brutal there mate lol ,they couldent be just screws clamping it all together like the others we see on you tube ,ohhhhh no we have the drums that need butchering ,was wondering what you were going to do with the saw ,thanks for showing i can carry on now Ant from wales ,i was going to make a vid out of it for my channel but i thought it would be too long winded but hey its a project ,never mind maybe next time , wrong ! gonna buy a recon lol .
Awesome video green crocs I wondered why hotpoint repair techs replaced whole drum. This makes sense one question how did you connect the garden hose to the washing machine hose what fitting wash it? A coupling on a tap end?
Hi Vuvuzela, Thanks, I connected to the hose via a Hozelock coupling for a Water Sprinkler. its a female/threadded, fits into the spray guns also, Regards.
Green-Crocs-Fixes I hope you have not had any issues since with water leaks after the test? Maybe cos of hot water during the wash cycles? I would doubt it that glue would fail at 90 degrees wash though?
Good job mate, I have been meaning to experiment with beating changes on sealed units however have not got round it as always got ones coming in and out, so easy to just strip for parts and move on, I repair and refurbish machines etc. If you don't mind me asking, how did you find the info for what size of bearings you needed for this, also do you think there would be anyway to incorporate the sealing ring in this? Also what mistakes have you made doing this in the past as I guess you have done it a few times. Thanks for info :-)
Thanx Jason, This is my first gig (not my occupation) and I had already brought a replacement machine but thought I would have a go after reading the blogs regarding Eco or Sealed Tubs. Never encountered any mistakes only locating the Bearing, had to send the sizes of the bearing Race inner, outer and width's and the Seal to a bearings Manufacturer. Jason we have two washing machines now, this one is still working fine nearly 12 months on.
Green-Crocs-Fixes Good job :-) Its always good to see people willing to at least try. If you ever want pocket money, have a look on gumtree, you can pick up machines for free, or for very very cheap, and if you can fix this, then you could fix all the faults you could encounter excluding computer board failures. Example :- I picked up a machine for £10 today, not spinning. Carbon brushes on the motor (free for me as I have a box of them off stripped machines etc, £10 if you buy them) will sell it tomorrow for £110 Picked up a condenser tumble dryer yesterday for £15, delivered it this morning for £100 +£10 delivery. It wasn't heating, if your creative like you are then you can fix this cheap 9/10 times replacing the thermostat or TOC on the heater as this trips like a fuse and 9/10 times its because they have not cleaned the condenser and blocks the air flow. You can do lots of these very fast, and in fact the cleaning takes longer than the repairs as I do get them very shiny as helps sell them :-) You will get machines that don't drain, like a zanussi I picked up for free while delivering one, I told them I would take them it away for them. The drain pump was blocked.... Yes it really is this simple. Well there is a tip, and another is that the drums make excellent firepits, just invert the pulley on the back (the aluminium ones) and you have a stand that looks good :-) or buy one from me for £20 :D
Richard Wilson In your opinion right? You also then understand Richard. The models that you can change bearings on are held together by a series of bolts around the tub in the same fashion correct? Now if your slightly switched on you might say that those bolts are usually located in the middle of the tub, and you would be correct in assuming the stress points on the machine change. Your telling me there is no way to secure this? Stick to replacing parts mate, however I do plenty of fixes, including dismantling motors, improvising where necessary and do computer board repairs to a small degree, repairing relay switches etc, I am still learning this. Considering this man said that it has held in place for over a year now, I would say that it a good start. If I was to do it, I would do certain things different to add strength but the method is obviously sound judging by this video and others I have seen since. I guess in your opinion though the only safe way is to replace the tub right? Or any part thats broken? How about getting heat welding sticks for PVC, laying them around like the sealing ring. Then using a heat gun to re weld the tub? Guess would need to do 1000 tests over 1000's of hours to do this repair too? Part of being an engineer is being able to fix things with some knowledge of physics and common sense. I am telling you I could reattach this tub without any chance of it ever splitting. My question was about the seal, did it retain the water. It did. Question answered.
Richard Wilson Sure, because I am the one that came over to your comments, asserted myself as an uneducated opinion, pushed it on someone else, called them liars and incompetents... then couldn't answer where this opinion comes from. Yea im the keyboard warrior. Piss off, you have said your OPINION for what its worth.
Thanx Michal, The Bearings sizes on this particular machine was 35 and 30mm the Seal was 38mm. here is a more detailed video ua-cam.com/video/rvjRUx1kAvU/v-deo.html Regards.
You're a genius, what glue do you recommend please? I've just found out my machine is a welded drum and I've already bought £40 worth of parts to do the job thinking it was just a matter of undoing a few screws!!
Iggy Ward Iggy Ward Thanx Iggy, I used Gorilla Gĺue as well as nuts and bolts as it expands fillings any gaps and helps to adhere the unit together. All the best with your project, hoping all goes trouble free.
Hi Nigel, Gorilla Glue www.amazon.co.uk/Gorilla-1044804-Glue-250ml/dp/B004NOZIYW/ref=asc_df_B004NOZIYW/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=280289510317&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11708835794833121643&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006969&hvtargid=pla-557985599503&psc=1
Nice vid. How did you get the star shaped torx bolt off the back holding on the drum pulley? and does it unscrew clockwise or anti-clockwise that bolt? I dont know whether I would feel comfortable cutting the outer drum and then gluing it back up again. and then a day to wait for the glue to dry. Last year my drum bearings went in my WMUD843P and it has a sealed/welded drum. I managed to get a brand new drum off the net (even came with a brand new element fitted in it and ntc) for 96.00euro complete and 25eur delivery and I fitted it into our machine in one afternoon.
Hi Andy, The Torx bolt undoes anti clockwise as far as i remember as this was done back in Dec 2015. The Drum is Bolted together, the glue helps to hold the unit together but primarily it is the seal. I had already purchased another machine prior to repairing this one. This was just a project that proved successful. Thanx.
Dennis Jones Thanx Dennis, there are no Bearings / Seal listed for an Eco or Sealed Tub as they are not designed to be replaceable. You have to measure the old ones and then request them from an online bearings seller. Kind Regards.
Cutting that drum is a real nightmare and the pulley screw i had to grind two flat edges to grip it . Eventually got through it to find the spider was shattered despite very little usage. Part doesn't seem to be available.
Hi Marvin, No it was not. I discovered that you cannot get Bearings for this machine at the outset as when searching there were none listed, then I discovered the unit is a sealed unit or aka an Eco Tub. I had already brought a replacement machine however this one just sat in the corner calling for some attention whenever I walked past. So I cut the Tub open, knocked out the worn bearings, measured them and the Seal then requested the sizes from an online Washing Machine bearings seller. Regards. 😝.
Hi Ken, there are no Bearings / Seal listed for an Eco or Sealed Tub such as this because they are not designed to be replaceable. You have to measure the old Bearings and Seals diameters once you have removed them, and then request the sizes from an online bearings seller 😀.
Mr Green crocs you also have pink crocs who wears those or are those for other jobs? Maybe gardening? How long from start to finish excluding the glue set time? Considering machines are now about £250 does it make economic sense to repair. It’s a shame so much is wasted I see machines on Facebook being given away with minor faults as it’s too expensive to repair.
Sweet Vuvuzela Hi Sweet, Well spotted! The pinks Crocs are not my size, too small, so the ladies of the house tend to use them. Not really timed how long, about half hour to strip down however the curing process is about four hours. Not everyone ha £250 to spend on a new machine especially when they fail just out of warranty. I have repaired three of these so far and these are machines which had been discarded due to the Bearings failure, total cost is around £24 for the parts and glue. Besides my first machine which was my own, the others were sold on for profit. Kindest Regards 😀.
Green-Crocs-Fixes not bad cos like I wrote I have seen on Facebook washing machines been given away as they don’t want to replace the immersion or something simple. Plus it’s so heavy to move but thanks to you people can save their machines and money so thanks again
Sweet Vuvuzela You see when the Bearings fail on these Eco / Sealed Tub machine’s you have to buy a whole new Tub which cost about £180 + depending on what model you have. There are no Bearings or Seal even listed. Clearly not cost effective, hence why people are giving them away. What you see in my video is me improvising. 🤩
Hi George, Yes if you could get a Slide-Hammer in by all means. Being a previous Mechanic, whatever proves fruitful. Not sure if the attachment would fit in here + most people would most lightly have an Hammer and Cold Chisel in their tool box rather than specialist tools. Kindest Regards.
Have an indesit too, 8kg capacity worked great but under warranty the bearings failed on me. Brought back to mediamarkt where i bought it, the answer i got was that the warranty didnt included bearrings...
Болты на м 3 ( м4 большие для этой машины) и каждые 30-50 мм. Поверность после такого как распелили, зачистить лезвием до гладкой поверхности. Герметик силиконовый и не прижимая вставить болты и на 5 день можно протягивать ( гарантия на протечку). На работу надо давать гарантию, люди же мани платят.
Full marks for that even with this being an old post. Is it still going ? There is one thing which spoils it a bit, and that is the music because at the end on the water test outside, I could not make whether there was a sound from the drum 'rubbing' or it was the music, A GOOD VID all the same, well done. Why the hell do they seal the drum ? If an engineer had come to do the same repair, would he have cut the drum open OR charged you 160.00 for A NEW Drum outer, inner and bearings? because that would have been what I call a 'rip off"!! Many would just buy a new machine.? Total waste of money to just throw out.
Hi John, Well spotted. The machine was banging initially as i had accidentally placed the top brace the wrong way round but that was resolved. A machine engineer is not going to cut the Tub in half in your Kitchen as this would take too much time and cost too much. The wife used this machine for over one year, i had already brought a replacement one when this one broke down, so i decided to make a project out of it but it was sold on as i had another machine to repair. Manufacturers do not want us to repair these days John; they think we are as flush as they are. You even need a computer to diagnose and clear a fault on your own Car. Thanx for the comments John, Kindest Regards.
Hi Philip, One of the most frequently asked questions. There are no replacement Bearings or Seal listed for a Sealed Tub or Eco-Tub Washing Machine as they are not designed to be replaced, hence why the unit is glued together where as conventionally they were bolted together. So you have to measure the old ones once you have removed them, them request the sizes (Bearings and Seal) from an online Washing Machine Bearings seller.
Hi could you tell me where you order your bearing and seals I've a Hotpoint Aquarius WML540G (UK) C sealed drum I cant find anywhere that will sell me replacement seals ... Can anyone Help ??
Hi Martin, There are no listed replacement Bearings for a Seal as the tub is not designed for them to be replaced. So I measured the removed Bearings and Seal inner and outer diameters and width then sent the sizes off to an online Washing Machine Bearings supplier requesting the sizes and Seal. They are cheap enough. Regards.
@@martinbowes7823 It a couple of year since I done one of these however a supplier who sells bearings for a Hotpoint to Indesit machine for example. suggest messaging a few on eBay.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 Thank you brother. Did it work well? any idea for how long the glue last? is it working well till now? because I have the same problem and planning to do the same thing you did. Any advices?
Hi, So I have a strange request maybe you may be able to help. I opened up my 8kg indesit innex washing machine and the bearings are completely damaged. The front bearing was completely shattered :-(. Means making measurements becomes rather tricky. Anyone ever opened such a machine and still remembers the sizes of bearing ordered?
Hi Dennis, So long as you measure the outer diameter of the big ring and the inner diameter of the smaller ring for both bearings and their width, don't worry about the bearings as most of mine were missing. measure the seal also. Kind Regards.
Paul Berry Hi Paul, Had to measure the old Bearings radius, diameter and thickness, the seal also and then request these sizes from an online Bearings seller. You wont find a set of Bearings/Seal listed for this machine model as it is a sealed unit and they are not suppose to be replacable. Kindest Regards, Dave.
I bet the manufacturers love You. No doubt if You hadn't shown this, a lot of machines would have been scrapped. Brilliant, and thank You very much for that
Viačeslavas Vetrinis Hi Viaceslavas, You have to measure the size of the Bearings and Seal once you have removed them, then request the sizes from an online Bearings supplier. Regards.
Thank you for the reply 😃 Ahh I used a red hylomar like seal on mine... needless to say it failed after 15minutes for me, I spent 6hours start to finish then left it 24hours 😭🤣. I didnt have any gorilla glue and used only 10 nuts and bolts, but it was well worth the fun of tearing it apart and rebuilding it. Lessons were learned. Your video is brilliant, I just wish I'd followed it to the letter. Thank you for checking my video out, really appreciate the feedback 👍🙂
@@Freshcut93 Yes I used to use Blue Hylomar on engine gaskets back in the day, and this would seem ideal as it can withstand high temperatures, however this is a different setup. The bolts are used to hold the Tub together, the Gorilla Glue is used as a seal as it expands when drying filling any gaps missed, also helps to hold the unit together.But like you said.. nothing ventured and all that! Regards.
Gino Van der Pistillon Hi Gino, There are no listed replacement Bearings for this model as this has a sealed tub. So I measured the Bearings inner and outer diameters and width then sent the sizes off to an online Washing Machine Bearings supplier requesting the sizes and Seal. They are cheap enough. Regards.
I have a similar machine, the bearings are fine however I just had to replace the 2 lower suspensions legs due to it shaking about violently, now I have a leak that is somewhere near the back and is getting onto and into the motor but I cannot find the source. is it possible the violent shaking has cracked the outer tub? and if so is there a way of fixing it? Regards
Dave Kemp Hi Dave, You may find that the crack is around the bearing area as there is a lot of stress around that area anyway, and the extra shaking makes it worse. Strongly recommend that you remove the Tub and Seal with Gorilla Glue, squeeze it into the hole or seam when the unit has dried out as it will expand and leave a mushroom type seal. Then allow to dry for 24hrs. Regards, Dave.
Thanks for your reply, I opened up the sealed tub with my scorpion saw with a fine blade fitted. Sadly one of the legs on the spider has shattered and shards of the metal have punctured the outer plastic tub in quite a few places. As the spider is welded onto the inner drum and the price of a complete unit was so high I had no option but to order a new machine. Had individual parts been available I could have fixed it but modern times being as they are the manufacturers want you to buy the full tub/drum assembly.
I have the same issue with my Hoover washing machine which has a sealed tub. Thought it was irreparable before seeing this video. Could anyone that has done this repair confirm if the glued seal held up and how long since the repair. I am just concerned the glue will fail and leak. Thanks
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 many thanks. I have in fact gone ahead to order a set of bearings so I can carry out the repairs. I really don’t have £400 for a new washing machine this time around. Hopefully it goes well. I have rewatched your video and made notes on steps to follow. My only issue now is not knowing if I have ordered the correct bearings set as my particular Hoover (oph761df-80) don’t have any bearings described as compatible, since it is a sealed unit. Hopefully the generic one I have ordered will work. Thanks for your video. It inspired me to go ahead with the repair. I might use a wet room grade silicone and see how it goes
@@namski2410 Namski There are no replacement Bearings or Seal listed for a Sealed Tub or Eco-Tub Washing Machine as they are not designed to be replaced, hence why the unit is glued together where as conventionally they were bolted together. So you have to measure the old ones once you have removed them, them request the sizes (Bearings and Seal) from an online Washing Machine Bearings seller. 😀.
It is unfortunate that a repairman works so poorly. For example, to put the bearings in place, he could use a long screw and two washers AND a nut to fasten on sides of the bearings, which helps to place bearings in its place by gradually tightening the nut, and also to drill holes. he could use taller drill bit to create holes with a direct angle.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 Hi, please accept my appreciation ,i thought that; this job was done by company repairman or any skilled specialists.so as an unskilled man that was so nice.hope you would not be disappointed. best regards
WELL DONE! Hotpoint is hiring in London, if you are interested let me know ;) PS: we don't split it, we just change the whole drum because we need to be quick (40 to 60 min)
Thanx Alessandro, you're not wrong M8. Not sure if a customer would have the time, space or patience for me to repair their unit in this alternative manner. if I were a Hotpoint engineer. Regards.
Hello Green-Crocs-Fixes I have a sealed drum its on a bosch exxcel 7 varioperfect my Q is I cannot find any bearings would any similar ones fit as i'm well P****d Off and not shelling out £200/300 for a new drum after watching your superb video I thought i'd kindly ask if you could advise me in any way to save me ££££!kind regards.
Hi Rashio, a common question. A sealed tub washing machine will not have the Bearings and Seal listed anywhere for sale as they are not replaceable theoretically. So what I had to do to get around this issue is cut the tub apart after drilling holes for the bolts, then more importantly I had to measure the sizes of the old Bearings and Seal once I had knocked them out, then request these sizes from an online bearings supplier. Regards.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 Hi Croc, That's my conclusion after I did a bit of research and came across a said Bearing company online who asked me to send the Bore and outer dimension sizing's I have manged to remove the tub so am in the process of cutting it in half wish me luck and many thanks for your swift reply back to my Q all the best bud!
Hello man I have fix main but there is a leak so it is not working properly. I need to know what is the glue name I used silicone but still The leak effect the water switch
simbo simbo Hi Simbo, Had to measure the old Bearings radius, diameter and thickness, the seal also and then request these sizes from an online Bearings seller. You wont find a set of Bearings/Seal listed for this machine model as it is a sealed unit and they are not suppose to be replacable. Kindest Regards,
Aban's Insurance Brokerage Unfortunately there are no Bearings and Seal listed for Sealed Tubs such as this one as they are not designed to be replaced. You are expected to replace the whole Tub, however what I did was measure the old Bearings width then inner and outer diameters the Seal also, then requested the sizes from an online Bearings supplier. Regards.
Green-Crocs-Fixes what size were your bearings because I have the same machine. I want to order the parts before I take apart the machine to reduce the amount of downtime! Thanks
Hi Jamie, The Bearings sizes on this particular machine was 35 and 30mm the Seal was 38mm. here is a more detailed video ua-cam.com/video/rvjRUx1kAvU/v-deo.html Regards.
Can anyone help me I've got a hotpoint Wmfug842p and the bearings are going the noise is unbearable I've got the drum case out just need to saw round the casing as there is no screws around the case.....is it possible to be fixed and can you tell me the right bearing size I need for this...it's such a shame just to chuck it away as I've only had it over 12 months..... thanks
helou Can you tell me which GENUINE C00202418 35MM BEARING & SEAL KIT or 30 mm Drum Bearings and Seal Kit for machine Washing - Drying HOTPOINT, AQD 1170 D 69 EU thank you very much
agron sherifi Hi Argon, If your machine has a sealed tub like mine then they do not make a Bearing Kit for it because you have to buy a new Tub. I measured the Bearings inner and outer diameters and width then sent the sizes off to an online Washing Machine Bearings supplier requesting the sizes and Seal size also.Hope this helps. Regards.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 it's shocking, they want us to go green but we're having to throw away. Doesn't make sense. This hotpoint is 6 years old but the Candy I had before was 12 years old. The quality has gone down hill. If I had the time and tools sure I'd have go. Brill you managed to do it.🙌
My machine just started to fail, no problem I thought replace bearing give good clean but no, been told sorry your machine needs complete drum as it sealed, no wonder the world polluted, why would anyone design a machine that didn't have bolts to get drum out ridiculous.
I totally agree Mark. Not sure why they call it an Eco Tub either as most machines will be scrapped. and as for the Tub that will be Landfill. Bic Razors are cheap and disposable. These machines are not.
Hi, I have only repaired Hotpoint and Indesit machines, though I would imagine that the procedure is the same providing there is a Lip on the Tub to drill to. Once the old Bearings and Seal are removed you have to measure them then request the sizes from an online washing machine Bearings supplier Regards 😀.
Manufacturers should legally be BANNED from making sealed tub machines. it is not cheaper and is only done so that they can deliberately engineer a failure just out of warranty period. It is fraud.
Your not wrong Peter,
as not everyone can afford to pay two to three hundred pounds for a new machine every eighteen or twenty four months.
Regards.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 My own machine has just failed, the drum has seized solid and not only is it a sealed tub, there is very little flange to even try and drill screw holes through for bolts. Engineered that way on purpose no doubt.... otherwise, I'd have had a go at doing this. Manufacturers simply should not be allowed to make sealed tubs... but of course, they will respond to that by increasing the price up to the £600 level - which is where you CAN get a machine with a tub you can dismantle!
Peter i had already replaced this machine when it broke down, just thought I would have a go at repairing the unit after reading all of the blogs stating that it is a sealed unit. Not sure why they call it an Eco-Tub as it is far from economical to the consumer when it goes wrong.Brought a Bosch washer dryer for £900 which has a split (dismantle type) tub.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 Yeah I might have a go at it just for the sake of it... next time I can afford to I will be doing the same as you, investing money in a split-tub machine, probably a Bosch!
The bastard is before this we had a Whirlpool which did have a split tub... it lasted 12 years and the spider snapped from metal corrosion. Whirlpool wanted £200 for a new drum.. and I wish i'd paid it now as everything was replaceable.. Replaced it with another cheaper Whirlpool that just lasted 2 years before the bearing went, and before I knew about the sealed drum thing. The machine that's just gone wrong is a Beko, but at least it was a freebie!
strongly advise having a go at fixing it, when the weather is good. @ leat you will have a spare if you have the room.
Hi, I've just successfully replaced the bearings in my hotpoint as a result of copying this brilliant video. The only things I did slightly different are that I drilled the holes for the new screws before I sawed the flange and used a hand saw, I don't have a power saw, it took a little longer but no big deal. I also used a sealant instead of glue because that's what I had available and as you said its just to seal not stick (the screws hold it all together). anyway money is tight and this has saved me a small fortune (a new machine basically) so a big thanks and I wish you well. Gerry
Gerry Holmes Well done Gerry. I just used what I had available also, but and if the Sealant does the job then so be it. Your right, drilling the holes prior sounds like an easier way. Glad to help and kindest regards, Dave.
Thanks a lot, I saved many euro's thanks to your video. It's a shame that the comsumer has to recycle , while manufacturers make evrything to throw away, just to increase their sales. Greetings from Belgium
Where did u get bearings from plz
Hi, your repair with screws still holding up? My bearings are done too and of course, the tube is sealed. But I don't know if this type of repair last over time. Thank you.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520
Ja das wäre ich schon.
Aber wenn der Bottich verklebt ist schmeiß ich die Mühle weg.
Das tu ich mir nicht an.
Ich habe noch 2 Maschinen in der Werkstatt die noch verschraubt bottiche haben. Sind halt alt aber laufen noch.
This is a great video. Many thanks for taking the time to make it.
I’ve just done my Hotpoint WML520 sealed drum. Here are some additional things people may want to consider.
1. Do drill the drum weld first before cutting open. I used a 3mm drill and made holes approx every 75mm (3”) I used this hole size to maximise the sealing width for the adhesive (Because the weld width is very narrow - approx 8 to 10mm.)
2. I decided to use self tapping screws instead of bolts to clamp and hold the drum halves together and I ‘pre-tapped’ each hole with a screw before cutting the drum apart to make assembly easier and quicker. Self tappers are cheap and easy and clamped the halves really well after gluing. (But don’t over tighten)
3.Do use a reciprocating saw. (An air saw may be better though.) Be careful not to damage the steel drum inside. Don’t bother using a multi tool, the blade gets too hot and melts the plastic. (As I discovered!)
4. Use the edge of a Stanley knife or similar to de- burr all of the plastic around the weld surfaces. ( the small burrs could get between the surfaces when gluing together.)
5. I got my bearings and main seal from a local engineering supplier. £15. Quality bearings too. Hotpoint didn’t stock bearings for my machine as it was a sealed drum. (But they sell the drum at around £200 😱)
6. Wash all soap sludge from the drum halves etc with a car pressure washer. (It cleans it really well and is quick.)
And properly clean the drum spindle until it shines (use rotary wire brush in a drill for the steel but only wire wool or similar on the brass ferrule at the base of the spindle . The brass bit is important, it must be really clean and undamaged because the main seal runs on this. I used car brake cleaner to give the spindle a final wash before assembly and then a good squirt of silicone spray to help it go together. Turn the drum as you push it in the last bit to help the seal go onto the brass ferrule.
7. DO make sure the back of the bearing sleeve/retainer is supported on a block of wood or similar when banging in the bearings. The sleeve is only held in plastic and therefore could be broken free or seriously damaged. Put a longer bit of wood into the metal drum when knocking in the smaller back bearing too.
8. I ended up using white Evo Stik adhesive to glue the drum together. I’m sure the pu Gorilla glue is great, but the Evo has good reviews, is waterproof and has a temperature range of up to 100 degrees C.
9. When applying the glue, just be careful not to put too much on, because you won’t be able to clean or remove the ‘squidge’ inside the drum when assembled. This could potentially cause problems if the squidge breaks off later on and blocks the pump etc. Obviously you need enough glue though to create a proper seal.
10. It’s probably worth considering investing in a new door seal while the drum is out (£20) Much easier to but on the inner spring! My door seal was quite disgusting when I looked in all the nooks and crannies!
11. Give the drum glue the minimum of 24hrs curing time before using. Be patient!
Anyway, mine is all done now and working a dream. A lot of effort I suppose, but it should be good for many years to come.
Hope this helps!
Thanks Lawt,
no you cannot buy Bearings and Seal off the shelf for a Sealed Tub or Eco-Tub as they are not designed to be replaced. Lawt see this more up to date video of how to install bearings on a sealed tub; ua-cam.com/video/HKFX0B-5fPU/v-deo.htmlsi=xWq2lRsKjDcssERM
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 Granted, Hotpoint don’t sell the bearings. But my bearings and seal were readily available off the shelf at my local engineering/bearing supplier. They were all common bearings and sizes, so we’re in stock.
Thanks for this! A new drum assembly for my Whirlpool is £216, the bearings are only about £15. I'd taken the whole thing apart only to find that it was a sealed drum and realised that if I had a spare £216, I might as well have ust bought a new machine. A few minutes with my old Black and Decker Jigsaw and now I am just working the bearings out! The Jigsaw isn't the best but it did the job easily with a wood cutting blade.
Hi Nicola,
Fair play to you and i hope you complete successfully. I also removed the Tub on my unit initially only to discover it was sealed and a replacement Tub was not cost effective, hence the video. I think whatever is used to split the Tub is not relevant so long as it is successful, prior to starting mine I watched a video by Kevin Frost and he used an Angle Grinder, and you are right you could pretty much buy a brand new machine for the price of a new Tub. Good luck.
Kindest Regards.
Where do u get bearings from
@@adamhaworth6309 an online company called buyspares.com. .
Never buy "genuine ' bearings, search online for bearing specialists, higher quality at a fraction of the price.
Great video!!
I tackled my Beko machine after watching this and I was amazed I fixed it. Finding the replavement bearings was simple but the seal required a fair bit og Googling.
Just to add - I used a hacksaw to cut open the plastic drum so don't worry if you don't have an electric one.
Keep up the good work!!
Andy West Hi Andy, superb. Glad that you were successful. Whatever you use to split the tub is not relevant so long as it gets the job done.I watched Kevin Frost video originally and he used an Angle Grinder. And yes sourcing the correct bearings and seal can require some research. Well done M8.
Regards,
Dave.
Hi Andy, where did you find the bearings to use? And what sealant did you use? i have a Beko as well, Tnx!!
I've just found out my washing machine is sealed and as a result finding replacement bearings for Beko Wl1573 is proving near on imposdible.
Nice video
Hi Metratone,
Commiserations, however there are no Bearings or Seal listed for an Eco or Sealed Tub as they are not designed to be replaced. You have to measure the old ones once you have removed them then request the sizes from an online Bearings supplier.
Regards.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520I never thought of that thanks.
@@metratone5 😃
Most bearings have model numbers on them (i. e 6201 etc. ) Then there is no need to measure, just give the numbers to the bearing supplier. Better still, take the old bearings in with you or send them.
Brilliant
Just a few more tips on how to do this Job which takes time but is not difficult really.
Watch all the Videos on this first
As you dismantle the washing machine take video or photos at each stage before you unscrew things, disconnect wires or unbolt things, that way you won't be struggling when it comes to re assembling the machine. more is better than less, trust me.
Before you cut the drum mark the drum with a Sharpie pen in several places this will aid re assembly, and drill 4mm holes at about 100mm (4inch) centres all round the lip where you are going to cut, you can buy a long, 4mm drill bit, 120mm long from Screwfix (about £3.00 for 2) while you are there buy the 4mm Stainless lock nuts (£3.00) and 30mm long Bolts (also about £3.00) You might need to buy some Vernier Calipers to accurately measure the old bearing sizes, more on this later. When you are drilling the holes test the first one with a nut and bolt to make certain you can get it in and do it up you when you come to re assemble, this will prevent you from drilling in the wrong vertical plane.
Cutting the Drum. I opted for using a hacksaw, which will cut all the way round the drum, I have power tools but you are in better control with a hand tool. It took just under an hour, quick tea break included. You will need a waterproof sealant when you put the drum back together. I used Aqua Mate Sealant.(£5.00)
Knock out the outer bearing first, so from the inside out, using a metal drift, it takes a bit of whacking before it comes out. Then from the outside knock out the inner bearing, the water seal comes out with the bearing when you do this.
Now you have your bearings and seal out measure them with a good mm rule or the Verner capilers, you need, inner diameter, outer diameter and thickness in each case. I then ordered them from Wych Bearings (about £20.00 the lot)on line. I did this job in the morning about 11.00 and so was able to just get them the next day just using standard first class post. There is a helpline if you are not sure what you want.
I put the new bearings in the freezer for a couple of hours (Metal contracts in cold) and kept the drum in the sun (Metal expands in heat) to make it easier to knock them in .follow the videos for this but use wood blocks because any metal on metal blows will damage your new bearings.
Use loads of sealant on the drum before you put the two bits together. Line it all up and put in the nuts and bolts you have plenty of time to do them up tight. I let my drum and sealant cure for 24 hours after, but it can be done faster I think. Then just re assemble it all. Hope you took enough photoes......!!!
Thanx
Brilliant, many thanks. Didn't realise it was a sealed tub until it was out and I couldn't see any screws... LOL Having a go at the job now. Fingers crossed I can do it and avoid having to buy a new one. All thanks to your video, take a well earned bow sir.
Snap! Derek,
That's exactly how I found out. Never heard of a Sealed Tub prior. Already brought a replacement machine, but then thought' Nothing Ventured......
Regards.
brilliant . I just took my machine apart with a view to repairing the bearings..just to find its a sealed unit f...k...w...k... you have given me renewed motivation
Paul Brasted Hi Paul,
Snap that's how I also found out about Sealed Tubs. Have a go @ it m8, all the best.
Thanks ...I bet that because its a sealed unit they do not sell the bearings or something like that !! It also got me wondering about all these different load machines...I bet all the bearings are the same size ..So if you buy a 10 kg machine you have not got a bigger bearing ..just an over loaded one ...
Paul Brasted Just measured the old bearings inner and outer diameter / thickness, seal also then requested these sizes from an online bearings supplier.
Double snap, I did exactly the same thing, was wondering what my next move was, then watched your video, now I know what to do next, and was going to ask what glue you used but read a few comments and found out, will probably use some high temp engine gasket sealer and nut and bolt it back together. Thanks for the video and inspiration 👍
The best video yet, I'm down to getting the casing split.Very good video, cheers Alex M
Sandy Rowle Thanx Alex’
@ the moment I’m editing a newer and more detailed version of this video with more emphasis on the Bearings which should answer a lot of the questions frequency asked.
Regards.
I know this is an old video but well done mate! Almost all new machines now are sealed tub so this video is even more relevant today! When you think we're supposed to be aiming for a sustainable future it's absolutely crazy manufacturers would do something so obviously malicious and wasteful. Love the safety crocs btw, are they steel toe and midsole? 😂 😂😂
Thanks John,
there’s a more updated version here ua-cam.com/video/rvjRUx1kAvU/v-deo.html
and your totally correct, these so called Eco Tubs will result in even more Landfill as most people won’t go to this effort. The Crocs are just my channel name, mine are not even genuine, just cheap foam. Health & Safety would have a field day if something went wrong 😎.
Full respect to you for attempting this repair
Thanks Barry,
Had already replaced the machine before I decided to have a go at repairing this. Then sold it after 18 months
😀
Your hoover drum is identical to my Hotpoint Aquarius one, i tried gorilla glue and to be honest i do not believe it to be a good adhesive, i like the fact it expands but was not impressed with how easy the drum was to separate the second time around(looks like a slower version of expanding foam), my recommendation is to use a polyurethane adhesive sealer like Tiger Seal by U-POL, this adhesive is extremely strong and can be used on many different materials, it also can be layed in a bead about 10mm high should you need it....
HiddenAgenda2012 Hi HiddenAgenda. Your correct, this is a Hotpoint Drum not Hoover, editting error. TheTub is bolted together with nuts and bolts, the Gorilla Glue is used as a Seal and helps to hold the unit together also. Whatever you choose to use so long as it is adequate it will suffice. Thanx, Dave.
Howzit Green Crocs!! Great video, doing this job later today will save me a fortune, you are a star buddy, thanks a million.
Nik Duffield Thanx Nik,
Hope all goes well M8.😆
Hi Michael and Thanx. The bearings £11.50p, Glue £6.00p and the Nuts & Bolts £1.00p. Time a couple of hours but then you have to allow the glue to dry over night. ☺
Can anyone help me I've got a hotpoint Wmfug842p and the bearings are going the noise is unbearable I've got the drum case out just need to saw round the casing as there is no screws around the case.....is it possible to be fixed and can you tell me the right bearing size I need for this...it's such a shame just to chuck it away as I've only had it over 12 months..... thanks
A very common question Chris. Measured the old Bearings diameter, radius and thickness the Seal also then requested the sizes from an online Bearings supplier. Regards.
Hi thanks for the video dude I did things slightly different to you as I drilled the holes while the drum was still sealed and I didn't use glue I used a high heat engine silicone I put a generous coat on both parts and let it start to harden before I joined them and then used nuts and bolts for the perfect water tight seal.
Can i ask why you used glue cos if the bearings go again you will have to cut it again with the use of silicone you can just peel it off
Thanx Jeff,
I used this glue because of its water resistant qualities and it helps to adhere the two halves together like the manufacturer had done initially, I would imagine that this would be easier to cut through in the even of another failure. You are correct, its best to drill you bolt holes prior to cutting the Tub apart, but this was my first gig. See my more recent attempt. ua-cam.com/video/rvjRUx1kAvU/v-deo.html
Regards.
Absolutely EPIC Job!! Thanks for going to the trouble of making and sharing the video:o)
Thanx FrazzledDad,
Im here to help and save. Please see the updated version ua-cam.com/video/rvjRUx1kAvU/v-deo.html
Regards.
Top bloke , top video . Guess what I’m doing Sunday 👍👍
Robert Bestwick Go for it Robert. All the best M8.
Great job man...now i can fix mine...total thumbs up dude
Raymond Connor Thanx Raymond,
Just sharing the knowledge. Good luck M8.
Hello there. I did this same job some years ago on the split tub hotpoint washer/ dryer. I am now going to do it again on a sealed type tub for a friend. What struck me when I did it the first time round was that in between the two bearings is quite a lot of space that could have been partly filled with grease. There are special greases on the market that work in water like that which is used in small boats, so I thought that I would give it a go. What do you think, is it worth doing, or am I going to end up with grease on the washing. On another daft idea. It would be very easy for me to fit a flexible pipe that would connect the space between the bearings to a grease point on the side of the washer casing so that grease could be put into the bearings with a grease gun when they started to get a little noisy. OH! YES, great video which has inspired me to do what I was told was impossible to do, thanks.
Thanks Robert,
Waterproof Grease is something I have not heard of until now, and you may as you have stated end up with Grease on the clothes. just need a good Seal really as this is what caused the Bearings to fail.
Once you remove the old Bearings and Seal you have to measure them and then request the sizes from an online bearings supplier as you will not find Bearings and a Seal listed for a sealed Tub.
Regards.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 I thought that I would order the bearings from an engineering suppliers. I always find SKF bearing very good and it may be better to use them rather than some cheaper ones with no name on them. Many thanks for your help.
nice work, did similar a month ago on a 14 year old indesit and its still going. You cant glue the drum plastic ( ok you can with a primer), I just used gasket sealant and bolts every 100mm. had to cut my bearings out with a dremel. Bearing brothers, the bearings are in standard sizes so if you measure them within a mm your unlikley to get it wrong. The water (oil) seal was the hard bit but in the end I got a simillar size and the lip profile didnt matter. The seal had a maker and size embossed on it but wasn't still available. wish I has an electric saw ! but a one sided hacksaw maybe gives a thinner cut.
Congratulations,
Well done.
Great video something new, very impressed... how has this held up over the past 6 months? any leaks? or the tub halves split?
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@@green-crocs-fixes1520 Guessing it didn't hold up?
no used the machine for 18 Months then sold on eBay.
@@stewartdahamman no used the machine for 18 Months then sold on eBay.
Doing this work today. . I only seem to have been able to remove one outer bearing and an obliterated inner.. but the kit seems to have 3 bits.. 2 bearings and a metal ring with rubber seal.. doesn't resemble anything on mine... did you replace 2 bearings? Or 3 parts... ???.
Hi Phillip,
you can see that the inner Bearings which I removed in this video also disintegrated.
Yes I only replaced the Bearings and Seal on this one and these had to be ordered once they where removed as being a Sealed Tub there are no replacement Bearings listed for this machine.
However,
I did replace the Spider on a Bosch machine which has the replacement type, this has the Metal and Rubber Shims which I think you are referring too. Click on this link; ua-cam.com/video/Ot9GZQ4U4KE/v-deo.html these where refitted in the order in which they came off.
Kindest Regards.
Really good video, I might haved missed the info but what glue did you use? All the best to you
Hi Mr Snooze,
I used Gorilla Glue. See 14:22 of my more up tp date ua-cam.com/video/rvjRUx1kAvU/v-deo.html
Absolute legend. Thank you so much for this video.
Thanks Richard 😀
woah !brutal there mate lol ,they couldent be just screws clamping it all together like the others we see on you tube ,ohhhhh no we have the drums that need butchering ,was wondering what you were going to do with the saw ,thanks for showing i can carry on now Ant from wales ,i was going to make a vid out of it for my channel but i thought it would be too long winded but hey its a project ,never mind maybe next time , wrong ! gonna buy a recon lol .
Thanks Indiana,
all the best with your project, and yes recording does take along time,
90 percent of which ended up on the cutting room floor.
Thanks for sharing man it is very helpful I'll give it a shot.
Thank good luck.
good vid but what glue did u use its crucial part of the process
Hi Phil,
Thanks. i used Gorilla Glue as it it expands as it dries filling any gaps which were overlooked. Water resistant also.
Regards 😀.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 ah but which gorilla glue they make loads of different glues
@@philbrookman3126 Indeed they do. see my more updated Vid @ 14:22 ua-cam.com/video/rvjRUx1kAvU/v-deo.html
Would be cool if someone did a video of making the front panel accessible by taking away the welding and replacing it with screws.
Yes that may help.
Good video my friend.👍🇬🇧😀
Thanks Martin,
hope you enjoyed.
Great job ! What glue did you use ?
Hi Berke,
I used Gorilla Glue because it expands as well as bonding,
Regards.
Awesome video green crocs I wondered why hotpoint repair techs replaced whole drum. This makes sense one question how did you connect the garden hose to the washing machine hose what fitting wash it? A coupling on a tap end?
Hi Vuvuzela,
Thanks,
I connected to the hose via a Hozelock coupling for a Water Sprinkler. its a female/threadded, fits into the spray guns also,
Regards.
Green-Crocs-Fixes top job I have blue crocs which I’ll wear to fix my washer when it fails so comfy 🤭🐊
@@sweetvuvuzela4634 Lol, they most certainly are.
Green-Crocs-Fixes I hope you have not had any issues since with water leaks after the test? Maybe cos of hot water during the wash cycles? I would doubt it that glue would fail at 90 degrees wash though?
@@sweetvuvuzela4634 Hi this machine was used without any issues, sold it in 2018, Repaired three so far with no problems.
Girl you are shining with those fancy Crocs 😲
I feel so jealous right now 😒
And oh yeah I did like your video it was kind of helpful
OK
Nice job croc. well done.thinking of using tec 7. Any ideas?
Hi Spark, thanx,
never heard of Tec7 before today however if it can still hold
after a high temperature wash then no worries.
Good job mate, I have been meaning to experiment with beating changes on sealed units however have not got round it as always got ones coming in and out, so easy to just strip for parts and move on, I repair and refurbish machines etc.
If you don't mind me asking, how did you find the info for what size of bearings you needed for this, also do you think there would be anyway to incorporate the sealing ring in this? Also what mistakes have you made doing this in the past as I guess you have done it a few times.
Thanks for info :-)
Thanx Jason,
This is my first gig (not my occupation) and I had already brought a replacement machine but thought I would have a go after reading the blogs regarding Eco or Sealed Tubs. Never encountered any mistakes only locating the Bearing, had to send the sizes of the bearing Race inner, outer and width's and the Seal to a bearings Manufacturer. Jason we have two washing machines now, this one is still working fine nearly 12 months on.
Green-Crocs-Fixes Good job :-) Its always good to see people willing to at least try.
If you ever want pocket money, have a look on gumtree, you can pick up machines for free, or for very very cheap, and if you can fix this, then you could fix all the faults you could encounter excluding computer board failures.
Example :- I picked up a machine for £10 today, not spinning. Carbon brushes on the motor (free for me as I have a box of them off stripped machines etc, £10 if you buy them) will sell it tomorrow for £110
Picked up a condenser tumble dryer yesterday for £15, delivered it this morning for £100 +£10 delivery. It wasn't heating, if your creative like you are then you can fix this cheap 9/10 times replacing the thermostat or TOC on the heater as this trips like a fuse and 9/10 times its because they have not cleaned the condenser and blocks the air flow.
You can do lots of these very fast, and in fact the cleaning takes longer than the repairs as I do get them very shiny as helps sell them :-)
You will get machines that don't drain, like a zanussi I picked up for free while delivering one, I told them I would take them it away for them. The drain pump was blocked.... Yes it really is this simple.
Well there is a tip, and another is that the drums make excellent firepits, just invert the pulley on the back (the aluminium ones) and you have a stand that looks good :-) or buy one from me for £20 :D
Richard Wilson In your opinion right?
You also then understand Richard. The models that you can change bearings on are held together by a series of bolts around the tub in the same fashion correct?
Now if your slightly switched on you might say that those bolts are usually located in the middle of the tub, and you would be correct in assuming the stress points on the machine change.
Your telling me there is no way to secure this?
Stick to replacing parts mate, however I do plenty of fixes, including dismantling motors, improvising where necessary and do computer board repairs to a small degree, repairing relay switches etc, I am still learning this.
Considering this man said that it has held in place for over a year now, I would say that it a good start. If I was to do it, I would do certain things different to add strength but the method is obviously sound judging by this video and others I have seen since.
I guess in your opinion though the only safe way is to replace the tub right? Or any part thats broken?
How about getting heat welding sticks for PVC, laying them around like the sealing ring. Then using a heat gun to re weld the tub? Guess would need to do 1000 tests over 1000's of hours to do this repair too?
Part of being an engineer is being able to fix things with some knowledge of physics and common sense.
I am telling you I could reattach this tub without any chance of it ever splitting. My question was about the seal, did it retain the water.
It did. Question answered.
Richard Wilson Sure, because I am the one that came over to your comments, asserted myself as an uneducated opinion, pushed it on someone else, called them liars and incompetents... then couldn't answer where this opinion comes from.
Yea im the keyboard warrior.
Piss off, you have said your OPINION for what its worth.
Well done. I need to get bearings and seal. Cheers
Thanx Michal,
The Bearings sizes on this particular machine was 35 and 30mm the Seal was 38mm.
here is a more detailed video ua-cam.com/video/rvjRUx1kAvU/v-deo.html
Regards.
You're a genius, what glue do you recommend please? I've just found out my machine is a welded drum and I've already bought £40 worth of parts to do the job thinking it was just a matter of undoing a few screws!!
Iggy Ward Iggy Ward Thanx Iggy,
I used Gorilla Gĺue as well as nuts and bolts as it expands fillings any gaps and helps to adhere the unit together. All the best with your project, hoping all goes trouble free.
What glue or sealant would you use make and type? thank you Nigel.
Hi Nigel,
Gorilla Glue www.amazon.co.uk/Gorilla-1044804-Glue-250ml/dp/B004NOZIYW/ref=asc_df_B004NOZIYW/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=280289510317&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11708835794833121643&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006969&hvtargid=pla-557985599503&psc=1
Nice vid. How did you get the star shaped torx bolt off the back holding on the drum pulley? and does it unscrew clockwise or anti-clockwise that bolt?
I dont know whether I would feel comfortable cutting the outer drum and then gluing it back up again. and then a day to wait for the glue to dry.
Last year my drum bearings went in my WMUD843P and it has a sealed/welded drum. I managed to get a brand new drum off the net (even came with a brand new element fitted in it and ntc) for 96.00euro complete and 25eur delivery and I fitted it into our machine in one afternoon.
Hi Andy,
The Torx bolt undoes anti clockwise as far as i remember as this was done back in Dec 2015. The Drum is Bolted together, the glue helps to hold the unit together but primarily it is the seal. I had already purchased another machine prior to repairing this one. This was just a project that proved successful. Thanx.
+Green-Crocs-Fixes thanks
Excellent but how do we source the seal and bearings ?
Dennis Jones Thanx Dennis, there are no Bearings / Seal listed for an Eco or Sealed Tub as they are not designed to be replaceable. You have to measure the old ones and then request them from an online bearings seller.
Kind Regards.
Cutting that drum is a real nightmare and the pulley screw i had to grind two flat edges to grip it . Eventually got through it to find the spider was shattered despite very little usage. Part doesn't seem to be available.
Hi Jondo,
Bad luck on that one M8, never had one with a damaged Spider before. just put it down to experience I suppose.
Kindest Regards.
Great video buddy! 🙏
Thanks for the visit Lonut,
appreciated 🤩.
nice one mate, may try this myself
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I have done this to sealed drums before but plastic welded instead of bolting together.
Hi David,
whatever means of holding the Tub together securely will do I suppose, just thought this way was easier and future proof
Kind Regards.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 I will try your way in future what glue did you use.
@@davidlawrence942 Hi David, I used Gorilla Glue the brown stuff.
@@davidlawrence942 or see 14:25 on my other Vid; ua-cam.com/video/rvjRUx1kAvU/v-deo.html
Was easy to find bearings for this drum, being that is made to not open anymore?
Hi Marvin,
No it was not. I discovered that you cannot get Bearings for this machine at the outset as when searching there were none listed, then I discovered the unit is a sealed unit or aka an Eco Tub. I had already brought a replacement machine however this one just sat in the corner calling for some attention whenever I walked past. So I cut the Tub open, knocked out the worn bearings, measured them and the Seal then requested the sizes from an online Washing Machine bearings seller.
Regards. 😝.
How did you find the bearings as suppliers are telling me you can't get them as the drum is sealed 😕
Hi Ken,
there are no Bearings / Seal listed for an Eco or Sealed Tub such as this because they are not designed to be replaceable. You have to measure the old Bearings and Seals diameters once you have removed them, and then request the sizes from an online bearings seller 😀.
In the uk, Hotpoint will replace the faulty parts within 10 years of purchase and charge a maximum of £120 labour.
Ok Thanks.
nice job fella
Thanx thanx.
Mr Green crocs you also have pink crocs who wears those or are those for other jobs? Maybe gardening? How long from start to finish excluding the glue set time? Considering machines are now about £250 does it make economic sense to repair. It’s a shame so much is wasted I see machines on Facebook being given away with minor faults as it’s too expensive to repair.
Sweet Vuvuzela Hi Sweet,
Well spotted! The pinks Crocs are not my size, too small, so the ladies of the house tend to use them.
Not really timed how long, about half hour to strip down however the curing process is about four hours.
Not everyone ha £250 to spend on a new machine especially when they fail just out of warranty.
I have repaired three of these so far and these are machines which had been discarded due to the Bearings failure, total cost is around £24 for the parts and glue.
Besides my first machine which was my own, the others were sold on for profit.
Kindest Regards 😀.
Green-Crocs-Fixes not bad cos like I wrote I have seen on Facebook washing machines been given away as they don’t want to replace the immersion or something simple. Plus it’s so heavy to move but thanks to you people can save their machines and money so thanks again
Sweet Vuvuzela You see when the Bearings fail on these Eco / Sealed Tub machine’s you have to buy a whole new Tub which cost about £180 + depending on what model you have. There are no Bearings or Seal even listed. Clearly not cost effective, hence why people are giving them away. What you see in my video is me improvising.
🤩
Wow nice work mate, how much did it cost you and did it take long.
about £16
Could the bearings not be removed with a sliding hammer? As one would have done with a car rear axle half shaft bearing?
Hi George,
Yes if you could get a Slide-Hammer in by all means. Being a previous Mechanic, whatever proves fruitful. Not sure if the attachment would fit in here + most people would most lightly have an Hammer and Cold Chisel in their tool box rather than specialist tools.
Kindest Regards.
Wouldn't a puller only get the outer bearing? Not the inner
Hi GreenCroc, Where did you get the bearings from I've got an indesit and think is the same setup?
Thanks,
Jim
Hi James,
Not sure if all the sizes are the same, however Drum Bearing kit 35mm 30mm Shaft is often used.
Regards.
Have an indesit too, 8kg capacity worked great but under warranty the bearings failed on me. Brought back to mediamarkt where i bought it, the answer i got was that the warranty didnt included bearrings...
Болты на м 3 ( м4 большие для этой машины) и каждые 30-50 мм. Поверность после такого как распелили, зачистить лезвием до гладкой поверхности. Герметик силиконовый и не прижимая вставить болты и на 5 день можно протягивать ( гарантия на протечку). На работу надо давать гарантию, люди же мани платят.
Спасибо Василий, но у меня всё хорошо и инструкции мне не нужны
Full marks for that even with this being an old post. Is it still going ? There is one thing which spoils it a bit, and that is the music because at the end on the water test outside, I could not make whether there was a sound from the drum 'rubbing' or it was the music, A GOOD VID all the same, well done. Why the hell do they seal the drum ? If an engineer had come to do the same repair, would he have cut the drum open OR charged you 160.00 for A NEW Drum outer, inner and bearings? because that would have been what I call a 'rip off"!! Many would just buy a new machine.? Total waste of money to just throw out.
Hi John,
Well spotted. The machine was banging initially as i had accidentally placed the top brace the wrong way round but that was resolved. A machine engineer is not going to cut the Tub in half in your Kitchen as this would take too much time and cost too much. The wife used this machine for over one year, i had already brought a replacement one when this one broke down, so i decided to make a project out of it but it was sold on as i had another machine to repair. Manufacturers do not want us to repair these days John; they think we are as flush as they are. You even need a computer to diagnose and clear a fault on your own Car.
Thanx for the comments John,
Kindest Regards.
Your welcome sir. :))
Great job. but you don't mention where the bearings or the seal can be got
Hi Philip,
One of the most frequently asked questions.
There are no replacement Bearings or Seal listed for a Sealed Tub or Eco-Tub Washing Machine as they are not designed to be replaced,
hence why the unit is glued together where as conventionally they were bolted together. So you have to measure the old ones once you have removed them,
them request the sizes (Bearings and Seal) from an online Washing Machine Bearings seller.
Hi could you tell me where you order your bearing and seals I've a Hotpoint Aquarius WML540G (UK) C sealed drum I cant find anywhere that will sell me replacement seals ... Can anyone Help ??
Hi Martin,
There are no listed replacement Bearings for a Seal as the tub is not designed for them to be replaced. So I measured the removed Bearings and Seal inner and outer diameters and width then sent the sizes off to an online Washing Machine Bearings supplier requesting the sizes and Seal. They are cheap enough.
Regards.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 thanks for the quick reply...would you have name of the company you used to get the bearing and seal ??
@@martinbowes7823 It a couple of year since I done one of these however a supplier who sells bearings for a Hotpoint to Indesit machine for example. suggest messaging a few on eBay.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 thank you
I got a nice fire pit from my old washer.
Even the belt wheel came in handy as a stand.
Hi Grumpy Dad,
Glad to see that you found an alternative use.
Regards.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 works a treat and looks great.
Wht kind of glue you used to stick them together?
Hi Ahmed,
I used Gorilla Glue, the brown one.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 Thank you brother. Did it work well? any idea for how long the glue last? is it working well till now? because I have the same problem and planning to do the same thing you did. Any advices?
@@ahmedal-hoqani5607 Hi Ahmed,
worked fine. Used the machine for about 18 Months then sold it on eBay to make room for another one.
fair play good video
Thanx
Wich liquid used for seeling a tub?
s bhatti Hi I used Gorilla Glue see my more recent video ua-cam.com/video/rvjRUx1kAvU/v-deo.html @ 14:20.
Regards.
Whats a good glue to use please
Great1 only1 Hi Great One,
Used Gorilla Glue as it expands filling small gaps
Hi,
So I have a strange request maybe you may be able to help.
I opened up my 8kg indesit innex washing machine and the bearings are completely damaged. The front bearing was completely shattered :-(. Means making measurements becomes rather tricky.
Anyone ever opened such a machine and still remembers the sizes of bearing ordered?
Hi Dennis,
So long as you measure the outer diameter of the big ring and the inner diameter of the smaller ring for both bearings and their width, don't worry about the bearings as most of mine were missing. measure the seal also.
Kind Regards.
Hi.. how did you find the right bearings for this as it's a sealed tub they always say not available.
Paul Berry Hi Paul,
Had to measure the old Bearings radius, diameter and thickness, the seal also and then request these sizes from an online Bearings seller. You wont find a set of Bearings/Seal listed for this machine model as it is a sealed unit and they are not suppose to be replacable.
Kindest Regards,
Dave.
Green-Crocs-Fixes Great info, thx!
Paul Berry o
I bet the manufacturers love You. No doubt if You hadn't shown this, a lot of machines would have been scrapped. Brilliant, and thank You very much for that
How do you know what size bearings you need?
Viačeslavas Vetrinis Hi Viaceslavas,
You have to measure the size of the Bearings and Seal once you have removed them, then request the sizes from an online Bearings supplier.
Regards.
Top job
Tony Clayton Thanx Tony 👌🏿
Hi Michael
I have the same washing machine, I could not find the correct bearing , What size bearings you used.
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What glue was used ?
Hi Fresh Cut,
Used Gorilla Glue waterproof.
.. and Snowflakes is banging 👍👍
Thank you for the reply 😃
Ahh I used a red hylomar like seal on mine... needless to say it failed after 15minutes for me, I spent 6hours start to finish then left it 24hours 😭🤣.
I didnt have any gorilla glue and used only 10 nuts and bolts, but it was well worth the fun of tearing it apart and rebuilding it. Lessons were learned.
Your video is brilliant, I just wish I'd followed it to the letter.
Thank you for checking my video out, really appreciate the feedback 👍🙂
@@Freshcut93 Yes I used to use Blue Hylomar on engine gaskets back in the day, and this would seem ideal as it can withstand high temperatures, however this is a different setup. The bolts are used to hold the Tub together, the Gorilla Glue is used as a seal as it expands when drying filling any gaps missed, also helps to hold the unit together.But like you said.. nothing ventured and all that!
Regards.
Hi, it seems we have the same washing machine and next weeks i have to replace bearing on my hotpoint. Do you remember bearings model?
Gino Van der Pistillon Hi Gino, There are no listed replacement Bearings for this model as this has a sealed tub. So I measured the Bearings inner and outer diameters and width then sent the sizes off to an online Washing Machine Bearings supplier requesting the sizes and Seal. They are cheap enough. Regards.
ok thanks
I have a similar machine, the bearings are fine however I just had to replace the 2 lower suspensions legs due to it shaking about violently, now I have a leak that is somewhere near the back and is getting onto and into the motor but I cannot find the source. is it possible the violent shaking has cracked the outer tub? and if so is there a way of fixing it?
Regards
Dave Kemp Hi Dave,
You may find that the crack is around the bearing area as there is a lot of stress around that area anyway, and the extra shaking makes it worse. Strongly recommend that you remove the Tub and Seal with Gorilla Glue, squeeze it into the hole or seam when the unit has dried out as it will expand and leave a mushroom type seal. Then allow to dry for 24hrs. Regards, Dave.
Thanks for your reply, I opened up the sealed tub with my scorpion saw with a fine blade fitted. Sadly one of the legs on the spider has shattered and shards of the metal have punctured the outer plastic tub in quite a few places. As the spider is welded onto the inner drum and the price of a complete unit was so high I had no option but to order a new machine. Had individual parts been available I could have fixed it but modern times being as they are the manufacturers want you to buy the full tub/drum assembly.
Dave Kemp Sods law M8. All the best.😎
I have the same issue with my Hoover washing machine which has a sealed tub. Thought it was irreparable before seeing this video. Could anyone that has done this repair confirm if the glued seal held up and how long since the repair. I am just concerned the glue will fail and leak. Thanks
“ Ye of little faith’
Namski, I have repaired three so far, this was the first. Used it for about 18 month’s then sold it on eBay.
Regards 😀.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 many thanks. I have in fact gone ahead to order a set of bearings so I can carry out the repairs. I really don’t have £400 for a new washing machine this time around. Hopefully it goes well. I have rewatched your video and made notes on steps to follow. My only issue now is not knowing if I have ordered the correct bearings set as my particular Hoover (oph761df-80) don’t have any bearings described as compatible, since it is a sealed unit. Hopefully the generic one I have ordered will work.
Thanks for your video. It inspired me to go ahead with the repair. I might use a wet room grade silicone and see how it goes
@@namski2410 Namski
There are no replacement Bearings or Seal listed for a Sealed Tub or Eco-Tub Washing Machine as they are not designed to be replaced, hence why the unit is glued together where as conventionally they were bolted together. So you have to measure the old ones once you have removed them, them request the sizes (Bearings and Seal) from an online Washing Machine Bearings seller. 😀.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 great. Makes more sense. I will stop my order for now and get out the old bearings and seal first. Good idea. Thanks again
thank you for this
You're very welcome! Seamus.
What size bearings did you have to buy for this? 6206z and 6205rs?
G Thomas Hi Thomas,
Measured te old Bearings and ordered those sizes.
wonderful DIY, but capitalistic design by manufacturer engineers.
Yes Clemmy,
seems like they don't want us repairing the appliance we purchased off them anymore.
It is unfortunate that a repairman works so poorly. For example, to put the bearings in place, he could use a long screw and two washers AND a nut to fasten on sides of the bearings, which helps to place bearings in its place by gradually tightening the nut, and also to drill holes. he could use taller drill bit to create holes with a direct angle.
Hi Abbas,
I am not a repair man, this is just me repairing my own machine.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 Hi,
please accept my appreciation ,i thought that; this job was done by company repairman or any skilled specialists.so as an unskilled man that was so nice.hope you would not be disappointed.
best regards
WELL DONE!
Hotpoint is hiring in London, if you are interested let me know ;)
PS: we don't split it, we just change the whole drum because we need to be quick (40 to 60 min)
Thanx Alessandro,
you're not wrong M8. Not sure if a customer would have the time, space or patience for me to repair their unit in this alternative manner. if I were a Hotpoint engineer.
Regards.
Hello Green-Crocs-Fixes I have a sealed drum its on a bosch exxcel 7 varioperfect my Q is I cannot find any bearings would any similar ones fit as i'm well P****d Off and not shelling out £200/300 for a new drum after watching your superb video I thought i'd kindly ask if you could advise me in any way to save me ££££!kind regards.
Hi Rashio,
a common question. A sealed tub washing machine will not have the Bearings and Seal listed anywhere for sale as they are not replaceable theoretically. So what I had to do to get around this issue is cut the tub apart after drilling holes for the bolts, then more importantly I had to measure the sizes of the old Bearings and Seal once I had knocked them out, then request these sizes from an online bearings supplier.
Regards.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 Hi Croc,
That's my conclusion after I did a bit of research and came across a said Bearing company online who asked me to send the Bore and outer dimension sizing's I have manged to remove the tub so am in the process of cutting it in half wish me luck and many thanks for your swift reply back to my Q all the best bud!
@@erashio6702 Good Luck.
I used to breakdance to the background music. Good choice! (Push the button)
Oh yeah, I got my washer fixed.
Oldies are the best
I'd feel proud if I did thet
Thanks Shifty,
been a few years but I do believe I was 😎.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 thanks for sharing
Hello man
I have fix main but there is a leak so it is not working properly. I need to know what is the glue name I used silicone but still
The leak effect the water switch
akramlool Hi Akramlool,
I used Gorilla Glue to fix the Tub together as it bonds and expands also.
Regards.
Hi i need to do the same not sure what size bearing i need Ive got a wmud 843p hotpoint with a sealed drum :( what size bearing are they thanks
simbo simbo
Hi Simbo,
Had to measure the old Bearings radius, diameter and thickness, the seal also and then request these sizes from an online Bearings seller. You wont find a set of Bearings/Seal listed for this machine model as it is a sealed unit and they are not suppose to be replacable.
Kindest Regards,
Hey Green-Cross, I have a tub like this, but the bearing is hard to find, can you help me locate it?
Aban's Insurance Brokerage
Unfortunately there are no Bearings and Seal listed for Sealed Tubs such as this one as they are not designed to be replaced. You are expected to replace the whole Tub, however what I did was measure the old Bearings width then inner and outer diameters the Seal also, then requested the sizes from an online Bearings supplier.
Regards.
Green-Crocs-Fixes what size were your bearings because I have the same machine. I want to order the parts before I take apart the machine to reduce the amount of downtime! Thanks
Hi Jamie,
The Bearings sizes on this particular machine was 35 and 30mm the Seal was 38mm.
here is a more detailed video ua-cam.com/video/rvjRUx1kAvU/v-deo.html
Regards.
100+points👍👍👍
Thanx Ed.
Cheers GreenCrocFixes
Thank
Can anyone help me I've got a hotpoint Wmfug842p and the bearings are going the noise is unbearable I've got the drum case out just need to saw round the casing as there is no screws around the case.....is it possible to be fixed and can you tell me the right bearing size I need for this...it's such a shame just to chuck it away as I've only had it over 12 months..... thanks
Thank
It’s a hotpoint not hoover
Thanks.
helou Can you tell me which GENUINE C00202418 35MM BEARING & SEAL KIT or 30 mm Drum Bearings and Seal Kit for machine Washing - Drying HOTPOINT, AQD 1170 D 69 EU thank you very much
agron sherifi Hi Argon,
If your machine has a sealed tub like mine then they do not make a Bearing Kit for it because you have to buy a new Tub. I measured the Bearings inner and outer diameters and width then sent the sizes off to an online Washing Machine Bearings supplier requesting the sizes and Seal size also.Hope this helps.
Regards.
thenx - Yeah, it's like your I think, Washing dryer HOTPOINT AQD 1170 D69 EU
Hi, the wife uses the machine as a family use weekly, it is still in use six months on with no errors. 👕
Green-Crocs-Fixes
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wich bearing and seal?
Hi Coen, I measured the bearings inner and outer diameters and seal, then requested the sizes from an online machine parts seller.
Здарава братан сальник тоже надо смазывать атак молодец ставлю лайк
Вася Маклыгин Privet Bob Maklygin,
Da spaydera val byl smazany pered ustanovkoy, prosto ne pokazano na video.
What a job so by the time they get job done it's cost more than the washing machine lol.🤷🏼♀️
Thanks Bionic,
the parts came to less than £24 and labour cost = 0 as this is my own machine.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 that's fab if you can fix it yourself. It's £40 call out before anybody will look at it around here. Great job 👏
@@bionicnichola9251 Thanks Bionic,
they don't want us to repair them anymore, and a new machine is not cheap.
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 it's shocking, they want us to go green but we're having to throw away. Doesn't make sense. This hotpoint is 6 years old but the Candy I had before was 12 years old. The quality has gone down hill. If I had the time and tools sure I'd have go. Brill you managed to do it.🙌
My machine just started to fail, no problem I thought replace bearing give good clean but no, been told sorry your machine needs complete drum as it sealed, no wonder the world polluted, why would anyone design a machine that didn't have bolts to get drum out ridiculous.
I totally agree Mark.
Not sure why they call it an Eco Tub either as most machines will be scrapped. and as for the Tub that will be Landfill.
Bic Razors are cheap and disposable. These machines are not.
Hi what s the name of glue specs
thank you
Thanx
Need help with AEG l98699fl
Hi Emad,
what is your question
@@green-crocs-fixes1520 is it possible to saw this model and any idea about bearing size? Thanks in advance
Hi,
I have only repaired Hotpoint and Indesit machines, though I would imagine that the procedure is the same providing there is a Lip on the Tub to drill to. Once the old Bearings and Seal are removed you have to measure them then request the sizes from an online washing machine Bearings supplier
Regards 😀.
I am so sprites with a big lump of concrete on the front that this holds after a few spins
It's been screwed too though..... that along with the glue and I'll bet it's as strong as the ultrasonic plastic weld.
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*Plastic pulley ? Real shit ?*
Maybe cheaper than Metal
Hätte ich weggeschmissen.
Ja Xevo,
aber dann müsste ich eine neue Maschine kaufen, um sie zu ersetzen. Die Reparatur kostet ca. £ 18,00, wenn Sie dazu in der Lage sind 😀.
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Hi Chris,
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What the hell uses Jack sow To open your laundry machine oh man give me a break
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this man is mad cheap worker
Hi Ali,
Not sure if that's a good or bad comment but I will accept it.
Regards.
nice crocks
tom plane Thanx.