I was amazed at how many trucks had the trailers chained up. Something you never saw on Ice Road truckers. Good on them and shame on Ice Road truckers.
Thanks for another great video B. I live 3000 miles from this and even I can't wait for warmer weather there. And God bless the truck drivers who are trying so hard to get us the products and food that we depend on.
Chains are dangerous for that, they don't stretch much but they still hold a lot of energy. Those tow points are only really for low energy towing of the vehicle, not for hitting 80,000 pounds hanging on the end of a chain. If you are going to do a kinetic recovery, hitting the pull with some speed on, you need a kinetic recovery rope. Yankum, or something similar. Ratchet straps and chains have so little stretch at breaking point that they can easily break because the force needed to stop a 4 ton SUV in half an inch is extremely high.
Its embarrassing watching grown men in 4 wheel drive trucks trying SSSOOOO hard to get going in 2 wheel drive... and remember ICE IS ICE, not even 8 wheel drive will work! Get out, put chains on BEFORE you hurt someone...
There are likely to be some ski resorts that remain open into June. There's likely to be significant flooding during the spring runoff, particularly if there is a period of above normal temps with warm rain. This isn't just Cali as my home in Utah is facing similar problems this spring. I don't know if Lake Powell and Lake Mead will get anywhere near full pool, I kind of doubt it, so even with all this snow we are still going to be below average levels for Powell and Mead. Lake Powell is currently at 22% of full pool and is only 1.5 feet higher than the low point which was just a couple weeks ago. Lake Mead is actually 15 feet below where it was last year at this time. The watershed area for the Colorado has seen some rain this winter but not as much as Cali has and the deficit is so great it could take a few years of weather like this to fix.
@@phillippinson5333 California consumes the largest share of the Colorado River water and feeding that bottomless pit has indeed drawn down both Lake Mead and Lake Powell. I suspect they will consume less of it this year but then again the farmers will consume every single drop they can get away with.
I read in The Colorado Sun (I think) that the expectation is that Lake Powell should rise a bit by September but Lake Mead will still be very low. It probably would take 5-10 of these of winters to refill both lakes, if not longer. I hope that the Colorado River basin states realize this is just a one year pause and everyone still needs to come up with a long term solution under the assumption that there'll be drought conditions most years.
Hello dear friend, my father used to drive the end dump for many years and eventually he retired twenty years ago, totally, truck driving is one of most difficult jobs in the world, not only in the United states or our country, Iran
buddy in the white ford in the clip around 2 minutes had a 4wheel drive truck the whole time and maybe even rear lockers and didnt appear to use any of it for way too long
I’ve been pulled a couple times in my truck empty and worked better than I thought. Had doubts about that suburban but it helped. Lol. Good on you guys.
The guy in the white suburban is totally clueless. No wonder people in california have so much trouble with weather of any kind. Stay down there and dont come to any other states.
When has Al Gore been right? Not 30 years ago, and not yesterday...... And not in Florida with his hanging chads in 2020..... Oh no, not Big Al, the election denier... not again.........
When I was a kid we had a ford station wagon with studded snow tires and an extra fuel tank in the rear storage we towed a duely Chevy one ton with a race car trailer over Donner took 8 hours to get from Reno to Sacramento. 😜 been there done that got the tee shirt.😎
I can't imagine. I appreciate the truckers trying to do their jobs, but don't they ever just watch the weather and park it somewhere and wait? I can't imagine why anyone would drive into that.
As a truck driver, I can tell you why. If the wheels on your truck are not turning, you are not making money. Thirty-one years of driving a truck, chaining up in weather like this, taking it slow and easy, gets you to your delivery safely. But, today's truck drivers are not trained for properly & safely driving in snow and ice. Too many untrained new drivers out here.
These truck drivers should have been chained up or waited below the chain check. On the western slope of I-80 they usually hold them up at Applegate during bigger storms.
It's sad to watch this guy in Ford truck trying to get going in snow, and white half box truck trying to pull him, but neither of trucks got proper Real Snow tires on there vehicles, No blizzack , Michelin, or Sumoto, winter tires, So you sit and spin with all season crappy tires.
no, no it's not. i think your pseudo intellectualism is pretty close though. a 4x4 suv has a great chance of getting a semi moving. especially one that is chained like that one is.
@@krebgurfson5732 what do you mean by "pseudo intellectualism"? Was that intended as an insult? You can see in the video that the pickup trying to move the 18 wheeler is impractical.
I’m going to be 62, this year and I remember the big snow storm of 1975 in Illinois that’s where I was living at that time. I’ve been through a trip to Mohawk MI, and we got over 6 feet of snow in five days. But this winter has been crazy out west ☃️❄️☃️❄️☃️❄️
They need to keep the big trucks to the right hand side. It's ridiculous that the entire highways gets stopped as they all try and pass each other and get stuck.
This represents a small minority of the state in general except I-80 is a major artery for trucking in particular, they can spend extra day going around the Sierras to avoid this.
But but, their worn out tires with the snow peak on the sidewall said they could go ( which I doubt some had anyway, summer time California slicks instead ), but they had that sticker on the side of the vehicle "4x4", oh yeah 😆
I'm a Colorado native and veteran of many winter mountain pass crossings. All I can say is "Wow, that's some generally horrible conditions". Makes me glad to be in southern AZ nowadays.
There is another route over the Sierras and that is Highway 70 but there was a massive slide that has the road closed since before all this weather. Highway 70 is the lowest year around highway over the SIerras. It does have some restrictions on trucks because of its curviness through the Feather River Canyon. That closure has complicated the I-80 traffic.
Gruesome Newsom should take all the money he's throwing at virtue signaling projects and start work on a tunnel. Maybe they'll hit a huge gold vein while digging and it will pay for itself.
Incredibly awesome footage. TY for all your efforts. Been there done that back early 80’s as a rabid skier! ☺️😄😄DEFINITELY NOTlike that tho! For so long into season, as well!😱😱Impossibly difficult driving conditions! 🥺😱😳👍
All the stuck 4x4's, carry a small compressor. Air your tires down to about 10psi. Take it super easy as to not throw a bead. Air back up when you get to lower elevation, less snow. You will be amazed how much better your vehicles will move in snow. 50psi and snow with no weight just doesn't work.
The new vehicles an the people that just don’t have a clue how to drive in the snow these days is something to watch. An they talk about climate change let it snow so they can complain an when summer gets here they will complain about it being to hot. The world just repeats itself an you got some that just want to make a big deal of things mostly
Don't worry in Canada we used to get snow like this all the time when I was a kid I don't know why you guys are getting so much of it now it's crazy we're like summer over here
This is the reason why you need real winter tires like Continental VikingContact 7 Michelin X-Ice Snow Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5 Goodyear UltraGrip Ice 2 Hankook Winter I*Cept IZ2 Bridgestone Blizzak Ice
@@paulriddle7818 Whoa 😳, you would think you would have some heavy duty equipment to handle snow if this is common. Might be time to close I/80 if you don’t have the equipment or the manpower to handle it. Looks very Dangerous. A Grader isn’t made for plowing snow.
Remember the CF and ROADWAY pusher trucks? COE SWB with cement block over axle all chained with huge push bar. He could pull or push loaded lowboys over summit.
oh my face, I had last experienced such snow masses in 1992, on a truck trip to Hammerfest in northern Norway. Since the snow masses piled up to 3m high, left and right of the coastal road and at some point after several hours at a snail's pace went purely nothing more. We stood for almost 5 days and nothing helped to get on.
I suspect not your average Californian, besides the local boutique store in LA probably doesn't handle tire chains. A friend of mine who has lived all her life in Colorado just shakes her head, the amount of issues they have now vs some years ago with this same thing and take a guess, its people from California having moved in mass to Colorado and imported their attitude and clueless nature and now DOT has to contend with babysitting them and making up new laws to protect them from themselves.
Man I missed that mess, just barely made out of IL. I-55 southbound was closed due to this weather and traffic situation. Vehicles were rerouted from the highway. I had to go west on county road 17 to I-39
0:21 Yes, spinning the tires faster is way more effective than going slow enough to allow your torque to connect to the roadway. 7:34 Now that's a LOT of positive thinking. And I just knew that tow strap would break (again).
Wasn’t just Houston…I drove 2 hrs east from Houston to my dads on the TX/LA border and his car looked exactly like mine. I wonder how far this extended.
How many of those vehicles have winter or snow tires. It's mandatory over here the whole winter, it makes a huge difference on slippery roads. Safety first
I love it, you know they packed lots of extra lunch. 😊 just pull over and camp. Spring thaw close.
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This is what happens when there is a winter storm coming in to the sierras in CA. People either won't be able to go there, or they will be stuck coming back down the BIG mountain. For those who may not know, the Pass is 72+ hundred feet. It's treacherous weather and can hit at ANY time.
Seeing all of those trucks stuck and they are all running single chains. Once the wheel slips one revolution the inside wheel is left spinning on ice while the chained up tire on the outside is spinning in the air an inch from the road. Truckers don't be lazy with an easy to install set of chains that only get you into trouble deeper. If it's worth chaining up put on a set of triples. Singles should be banned from drive axle applications and only be allowed on trailer or steering axles. I can't believe this is still happening!
It's extremely rare to hear a knowledgeable comment like yours ( I am from Alberta ) as it seems most often when I happen to watch videos like this, be it trucks going over I 70 in Colorado or here on Donner etc, that seems to be the theme of using singles and they consider themselves all chained up drive tire wise when they throw singles on the outer four drive corners. If conditions are not too awful that probably gets a fair amount of the trucks through ok that have a proper balance of weight on the drives. I suspect various factors in this single chain theme, companies that buy the bare minimum tire chains for company drivers, not enough placement on the truck to hang two sets of triples plus another two sets of singles for the steers and drag chains on the trailer. Weight being yet another factor, I get the impression some companies don't want any more dead weight on the truck than they are forced to carry. The drive tires on those trucks, probably not ideal winter tires, I would be surprised if fleet companies in general order their trucks with four way lockers. I have only presumed that chaining the outside drive tires is considered sufficient to cover the chain law requirement ( not logic based on condition requirements, just to satisfy DOT I suspect ). That certainly doesn't happen up here in the oil patch or log hauling etc as per off road chaining practices as 8mm trygg triples ( they have the round knobs on the cross chains ) are standard fare and while tandem body jobs can usually get away with one set of triples, highway tractors need two sets and still spin out on the more insane hills. I laughed at the cattle pot that went roaring by these spun out trucks, hmmm, any chance he had on two sets of triples ( plus good weight distribution ) as he wasn't having issues and there would be a reason for that. Packed snow or mud are two surfaces that have trucks fall flat on their face trying to run singles with that bare tire beside holding the truck up after the chained tire spits out the surface it clawed away.
@@charlesb4267 You bring up some very valid points for the use of singles vs triples, I can see that you've obviously been up and down the road a time or two as well. I'm from BC and have been trucking in the Pacific Northwest for over 40 years, long haul highway first then regional mixed with a lot mining and logging road time. Retired now. I believe for the sake of safety and the ability to keep major highways open that the use of singles should banned from use on drive axle applications on major arterial routes and interstates. Also now that with the trend to "just in time inventory" our highways have become our nations warehouses it saddens me to see the quality of skilled drivers out there declining to the point that many now are essentially just steering wheel holders. This doesn't help much, have seen all too many instances of drivers not having a clue on how to put on a set of chains. Never mind when to chain up. Rant off. LOL Yeah, LOVE those Trygg chains! Have a good one!!!
@@74willy81 Sad to say but I have a fraction of the experience you possess in the trucking industry, my experience commercially related dates back well over 30 years ago when I worked for a short time for Schlumberger doing frac and cementing jobs, went up the Chinchaga forestry road a certain amount that winter and then way off into the middle of nowhere on cutlines over the muskeg ( winter time of course ), was up in the Pink Mountain area once. Years back did ride with a couple of friends who drove log truck hauling from south of Grande Prairie and tried my hand at slinging load cables ( I needed more practice ! ) . I grew up on a farm and that is how I try to make my living, we have a few highway tractors to haul grain to the local grain terminals and always have a set of triple tryggs hanging on the truck just in case but only throw them on if I find myself in a situation as otherwise simply stop hauling if its that bad as at least we have that choice. I expect your right, there would be a fair percentage of trucks going over passes like that in the states that are over their head with the conditions and putting on insufficient chains and end up getting themselves into a major mess and grind everything to a halt for those that know what they are in for and have the jewellery and know how to use them. We used to get grain custom hauled more back when we didn't have a semi and one of those times the outfit we happened to hire is having traction issues in the yard due to ice, had a melt and refreeze and was flat ground but with no surprise he started having major traction issues as he got into his second trailer of his Super B and I asked if he should probably throw a chain to give him the little bit of help his truck needed. Turns out he had no tire chains and why, oh its because they take up payload so hes not going to carry any chains around. Every so often we would get a super trucker like that, I didn't have chains to fit his truck so I assisted with a tow rope and a small farm tractor I had with tire chains for plowing snow as it didn't take much ( our large four wheel drives have summer fuel and sit in the shed all winter ). I hate to think what a set of Tryggs cost these days. Thanks for the kind reply, oh and I bet your blood pressure starts to rise as you watch a video like this knowing the Donner pass parking lot situation is completely preventable.
LOL, do you think they will pay any attention to us Canadians, they have had years to take notes but most don't, not from the southern states anyway. What blows me away is that a state like Minnesota that most certainly has winter roads and in fact gets a lot of horrible ice road conditions due to their weather patterns, the law in that state prohibits them from using tires that are studded and in fact have laws against running tire chains as well other than certain situations. Here in Alberta its legal to run studs 365 days a year if one wanted to and just assumed of course all the northern states would allow winter time use of studs.
I wonder if his four wheel drive was not functional as that certainly could have been a factor but his tires were genuine southern Cali issue. The sad part is all he would have needed is one set of chains for the rear axle and he would have been set to slowly make his way over the pass.
Wow, Civillians are downright scary trying to do vehicle recoveries.... Wrong equipment, underrated equipment, Hooked up wrong, wrong vehicle, wrong technique.... Then they wonder why things break or they get hurt... If you think hiring a professional is expensive.... Hire an amateur and see how expensive it gets....
This is all insane! In those conditions it should be four wheel drive with chains on all wheels that have enough clearance! I see too many hot shots in their four wheel drive pickup trucks and their off road tires. How many people think that they can tow an eighteen wheel full loaded semi truck out of a slippery situation? Now I understand why I80 is closed so often, because it's not possible to drive up and down these steep mountain roads without driving a huge Caterpillar snowplow yourself!
@@mitchellbarnow1709 I agree. M+S are decent all season, but personally, I put on winter tires around early December depending on my first trip to Tahoe and will pull them off after my last winter trip. Highly recommend.
A big thank you to all of the truckers out there that keep our supplies moving in all sorts of weather!
It’s ridiculous how much of the economy is in the backs of those trucks
I was amazed at how many trucks had the trailers chained up. Something you never saw on Ice Road truckers. Good on them and shame on Ice Road truckers.
@@gregyoungman where else would they be?
@@TheLittlered1961 Ice road truckers was fake bullcrap
Thanks for another great video B. I live 3000 miles from this and even I can't wait for warmer weather there. And God bless the truck drivers who are trying so hard to get us the products and food that we depend on.
7:50 Unsure why someone would want to ruin a late model Ford Expedition trying to tow a loaded semi?
even worse, that's a GMC Denali. Guy thinks he's a hero, wait until he gets his repair bill.
Cuz he has hair on his back
Thinking same thing. Fancy edition too, what are they now? 80k or something. Pulling a loaded semi with a luxury SUV.....???
With a chain no less...I was waiting for the back window to explode.
@@MikeCris and the jerking…not a kinetic strap/rope
Chains are dangerous for that, they don't stretch much but they still hold a lot of energy. Those tow points are only really for low energy towing of the vehicle, not for hitting 80,000 pounds hanging on the end of a chain. If you are going to do a kinetic recovery, hitting the pull with some speed on, you need a kinetic recovery rope. Yankum, or something similar. Ratchet straps and chains have so little stretch at breaking point that they can easily break because the force needed to stop a 4 ton SUV in half an inch is extremely high.
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Looks like my old Beat on Donner Summit. I worked that hill for 18 years and had a blast!!
I have many unhappy memories getting across Donner Pass..So glad I'm retired. Carry on, guys!
I am semi tired , its good to carry on .
Its embarrassing watching grown men in 4 wheel drive trucks trying SSSOOOO hard to get going in 2 wheel drive... and remember ICE IS ICE, not even 8 wheel drive will work! Get out, put chains on BEFORE you hurt someone...
How embarrassing that the guy in the white Ford didnt even know how to use his 4wheel drive!
It's a Ford driver what can you expect 😂
Looks like it didn't help much
He should have been in 4wd before running off the road.
4WD is like a brain.
You have to use it correctly to solve your problem.
You have to get out and lock in the hubs
7:36 Hold on, where they really using tie downs as a recovery strap?
yes... yes they were! 🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
@@cigarsgunsanddiesel8032They are watching too many commercials😅😅
Sometimes it only takes a little plus the tow vehicle can't pull hard anyway in these conditions.
yes, who would have thought people in CALIFORNIA were under prepared???
And the white ford is mafe of light aluminum, not heavy steel like the 1970-1977 Fords
❤ notice how the person with tire chains went around everyone 😂😂😂
Spinning the wheels hysterically on ice is a certain way to get stuck.
Why is that nice white suv trying to tow a semi? I’m sure his transmission was screaming STOP!!!🛑 😱
A Big Shout Out for all our Truckers ! Stay safe and "Keep on Trucking"
There are likely to be some ski resorts that remain open into June. There's likely to be significant flooding during the spring runoff, particularly if there is a period of above normal temps with warm rain. This isn't just Cali as my home in Utah is facing similar problems this spring. I don't know if Lake Powell and Lake Mead will get anywhere near full pool, I kind of doubt it, so even with all this snow we are still going to be below average levels for Powell and Mead.
Lake Powell is currently at 22% of full pool and is only 1.5 feet higher than the low point which was just a couple weeks ago. Lake Mead is actually 15 feet below where it was last year at this time. The watershed area for the Colorado has seen some rain this winter but not as much as Cali has and the deficit is so great it could take a few years of weather like this to fix.
Deliberate drawdowns.
@@phillippinson5333 California consumes the largest share of the Colorado River water and feeding that bottomless pit has indeed drawn down both Lake Mead and Lake Powell. I suspect they will consume less of it this year but then again the farmers will consume every single drop they can get away with.
I read in The Colorado Sun (I think) that the expectation is that Lake Powell should rise a bit by September but Lake Mead will still be very low. It probably would take 5-10 of these of winters to refill both lakes, if not longer. I hope that the Colorado River basin states realize this is just a one year pause and everyone still needs to come up with a long term solution under the assumption that there'll be drought conditions most years.
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I used to drive from California to North Dakota and I do not miss those days😮🌫️❄️🌬️💨🌪️🌀🌨️
Hello dear friend, my father used to drive the end dump for many years and eventually he retired twenty years ago, totally, truck driving is one of most difficult jobs in the world, not only in the United states or our country, Iran
And I forgot to say that I have been driving the trucks for ten years but now I have quit or abandoned it since last year
buddy in the white ford in the clip around 2 minutes had a 4wheel drive truck the whole time and maybe even rear lockers and didnt appear to use any of it for way too long
I’ve been pulled a couple times in my truck empty and worked better than I thought. Had doubts about that suburban but it helped. Lol. Good on you guys.
The guy in the white suburban is totally clueless. No wonder people in california have so much trouble with weather of any kind. Stay down there and dont come to any other states.
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30 years ago Al Gore said “ our children won’t know what snow is “
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When has Al Gore been right?
Not 30 years ago, and not yesterday......
And not in Florida with his hanging chads in 2020.....
Oh no, not Big Al, the election denier... not again.........
When I was a kid we had a ford station wagon with studded snow tires and an extra fuel tank in the rear storage we towed a duely Chevy one ton with a race car trailer over Donner took 8 hours to get from Reno to Sacramento. 😜 been there done that got the tee shirt.😎
I can't imagine. I appreciate the truckers trying to do their jobs, but don't they ever just watch the weather and park it somewhere and wait? I can't imagine why anyone would drive into that.
As a truck driver, I can tell you why. If the wheels on your truck are not turning, you are not making money. Thirty-one years of driving a truck, chaining up in weather like this, taking it slow and easy, gets you to your delivery safely. But, today's truck drivers are not trained for properly & safely driving in snow and ice. Too many untrained new drivers out here.
Time is money out on the road. 0 income when you're parked, delivery appointments rescheduled for a day or two puts you behind..
@@trixielatouche7180 I understand, but when you end up in a miles-long line of stationary vehicles, your wheels are not turning.
They prob. Didn't get accurite info on how bad it was..?
These truck drivers should have been chained up or waited below the chain check. On the western slope of I-80 they usually hold them up at Applegate during bigger storms.
This is why I carry a snow shovel and salt
What kind of clowns?? if you don't want to buy winter tires, buy a set of chains, enough for a lifetime!!
IT'S CALIFORNIA BRO
It's sad to watch this guy in Ford truck trying to get going in snow, and white half box truck trying to pull him, but neither of trucks got proper Real Snow tires on there vehicles, No blizzack , Michelin, or Sumoto, winter tires, So you sit and spin with all season crappy tires.
It looked like he didn't have any weights in the bed.
An SUV trying to pull out an 18-wheeler! That's the height of hubris.
no, no it's not. i think your pseudo intellectualism is pretty close though. a 4x4 suv has a great chance of getting a semi moving. especially one that is chained like that one is.
@@krebgurfson5732 what do you mean by "pseudo intellectualism"? Was that intended as an insult? You can see in the video that the pickup trying to move the 18 wheeler is impractical.
I’m going to be 62, this year and I remember the big snow storm of 1975 in Illinois that’s where I was living at that time. I’ve been through a trip to Mohawk MI, and we got over 6 feet of snow in five days. But this winter has been crazy out west ☃️❄️☃️❄️☃️❄️
Really really crazy weather everywhere, tornadoes & earthquakes too! 😢
Clint had it right. “Man’s just got to know his limitations.”
They need to keep the big trucks to the right hand side. It's ridiculous that the entire highways gets stopped as they all try and pass each other and get stuck.
but but but 1 can go a 1/2 a mile an hour faster! 🙄🙄"I won't get stuck like that guy"
I think they did. The trucks slid out of the right lane looks like.
No wonder shipping has been so bad the entire state of Ca. has seen record storms come in & just getting to work has become an adventure.
This represents a small minority of the state in general except I-80 is a major artery for trucking in particular, they can spend extra day going around the Sierras to avoid this.
Ya, everybody should be on the interstate in this weather with no chains.
But but, their worn out tires with the snow peak on the sidewall said they could go ( which I doubt some had anyway, summer time California slicks instead ), but they had that sticker on the side of the vehicle "4x4", oh yeah 😆
I'm a Colorado native and veteran of many winter mountain pass crossings. All I can say is "Wow, that's some generally horrible conditions". Makes me glad to be in southern AZ nowadays.
Weight in the back in form of sand bags and burlap . Throw in some cardboard , boards and put chains on tires.
do not use a chain for playing "yankum". if that breaks you've got a dangerous weapon! use a good kinetic energy rope. look it up
how are those pickups out there with no chains or snow tires ?🙄
Because the laws of physics don't apply to them ... well until it does ... oops 😆
There is another route over the Sierras and that is Highway 70 but there was a massive slide that has the road closed since before all this weather. Highway 70 is the lowest year around highway over the SIerras. It does have some restrictions on trucks because of its curviness through the Feather River Canyon. That closure has complicated the I-80 traffic.
Gruesome Newsom should take all the money he's throwing at virtue signaling projects and start work on a tunnel.
Maybe they'll hit a huge gold vein while digging and it will pay for itself.
The Clown in the FX4 F250 didn't probably know about just manually locking his front hubs in the 1st place
Incredibly awesome footage. TY for all your efforts. Been there done that back early 80’s as a rabid skier! ☺️😄😄DEFINITELY NOTlike that tho! For so long into season, as well!😱😱Impossibly difficult driving conditions! 🥺😱😳👍
Trying to pull a truck with a tie down strap, I bet it left a nice dent in the back of that new Suburban.
Gotta love ice nothing moves hate it Thank you for the video it's a reminder that I hate winter and snow
I m so happy to find this tutorial. It's working for me. Thank you for sharing
Don't miss the white vehicle trying to tow a fully loaded semi at 9:45. Really funny. Do they have weather forecasts in California?
What made the guy in the SUV Think it was a good Idea to pull a loaded Semi on a snowy road?!? Asking for a friend 😅.
How many of these people absolutely have to be on the road?
Only the truckers, the Car drivers not
All the stuck 4x4's, carry a small compressor. Air your tires down to about 10psi. Take it super easy as to not throw a bead. Air back up when you get to lower elevation, less snow. You will be amazed how much better your vehicles will move in snow. 50psi and snow with no weight just doesn't work.
What I want to know is what type of vehicle was this driving past everyone with no trouble ?
I 2nd that!
9:23 Never use a chain to pull anything! People have been killed by snapped chains flying at them
I was waiting for that chain to rip that guys legs off.
Summer tires on that f250 how embarrassing
Happens so often that small packaged men think their 4x4 pickup can climb Everest.
The new vehicles an the people that just don’t have a clue how to drive in the snow these days is something to watch. An they talk about climate change let it snow so they can complain an when summer gets here they will complain about it being to hot. The world just repeats itself an you got some that just want to make a big deal of things mostly
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At 2:00, dude, it is a four wheel drive truck, use it.
Right
Great video footage! Sometimes putting a little sand or gravel around the drive wheels can get you unstuck. If you have any.
Lol, no one follows the weather!?!?😵💫
So many people are completely clueless.
He's not going to pull n 80.000lbs semi with that with his SUV
Don't worry in Canada we used to get snow like this all the time when I was a kid I don't know why you guys are getting so much of it now it's crazy we're like summer over here
This is the reason why you need real winter tires like
Continental VikingContact 7
Michelin X-Ice Snow
Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5
Goodyear UltraGrip Ice 2
Hankook Winter I*Cept IZ2
Bridgestone Blizzak Ice
And I complain when it drops below 50. 🤦🏽♀️
No load's worth risking your life and other around.. I'm always telling my dispatcher why's do you come out Chains my semi truck ahhhhhhhhhhh
Amazing how those 4x4 pick up trucks can’t get anywhere. Oh well, even you can’t beat physics…..
Unbelievable that California has more snow than Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan combined 😮. 😂
We average over 300 inches of snow in the high Sierras
@@paulriddle7818 Whoa 😳, you would think you would have some heavy duty equipment to handle snow if this is common.
Might be time to close I/80 if you don’t have the equipment or the manpower to handle it. Looks very Dangerous.
A Grader isn’t made for plowing snow.
I cover weather all of the country. Nowhere is better prepared than that area. It isnt even close.
@@WxChasing 🤣😂😁🤣 , Really? Using a Grader to plow snow? (snickering). 😏🤭
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If your tires are fully inflated it's not going to help you need to let air out to their almost flat for traction aid .
Remember the CF and ROADWAY pusher trucks?
COE SWB with cement block over axle all chained with huge push bar.
He could pull or push loaded lowboys over summit.
I remember indeed.
It's always sunny in California.😎
Why do they not close it road? tbh the farmers help move trucks if they get stuck round here.
oh my face, I had last experienced such snow masses in 1992, on a truck trip to Hammerfest in northern Norway. Since the snow masses piled up to 3m high, left and right of the coastal road and at some point after several hours at a snail's pace went purely nothing more. We stood for almost 5 days and nothing helped to get on.
How is it that you own a SuperDuty with FX4 and don't know how to engage your front hubs??????😢😮😅😂
Does anybody know what tire chains are for??????Does anybody know how to put them on?????? I doubt it.
I suspect not your average Californian, besides the local boutique store in LA probably doesn't handle tire chains. A friend of mine who has lived all her life in Colorado just shakes her head, the amount of issues they have now vs some years ago with this same thing and take a guess, its people from California having moved in mass to Colorado and imported their attitude and clueless nature and now DOT has to contend with babysitting them and making up new laws to protect them from themselves.
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So many truckers without the proper tires and no chains.
No, the Trucks got chains on, but the Car drivers are soooo stupid!! The have No chains and no brain
Man I missed that mess, just barely made out of IL. I-55 southbound was closed due to this weather and traffic situation. Vehicles were rerouted from the highway. I had to go west on county road 17 to I-39
They never heard of chains?
0:21 Yes, spinning the tires faster is way more effective than going slow enough to allow your torque to connect to the roadway.
7:34 Now that's a LOT of positive thinking. And I just knew that tow strap would break (again).
Wasn’t just Houston…I drove 2 hrs east from Houston to my dads on the TX/LA border and his car looked exactly like mine. I wonder how far this extended.
It takes only one fool to shut down the nations primary east-west highway.
Make sure you have plenty of beer and water and food and good Internet you’re all set
I’m sure it’ll be hottest year on record
And the worst drought ever!
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How many of those vehicles have winter or snow tires. It's mandatory over here the whole winter, it makes a huge difference on slippery roads. Safety first
Winter tires? Studded tires? Chains? Duh?
Listening to Bachman Turner Overdrive ',Roll On Down the Highway ". Lol
Try using Capet samples. Put carpet samples in tight in front of back tires.
excellent video Thank you
It's amazing how some truckers don't release trailer brakes when being towed !
Frozen air brakes.
Is it really that important to go out in that storm??
I love it, you know they packed lots of extra lunch. 😊 just pull over and camp. Spring thaw close.
This is what happens when there is a winter storm coming in to the sierras in CA. People either won't be able to go there, or they will be stuck coming back down the BIG mountain. For those who may not know, the Pass is 72+ hundred feet. It's treacherous weather and can hit at ANY time.
Seeing all of those trucks stuck and they are all running single chains. Once the wheel slips one revolution the inside wheel is left spinning on ice while the chained up tire on the outside is spinning in the air an inch from the road.
Truckers don't be lazy with an easy to install set of chains that only get you into trouble deeper. If it's worth chaining up put on a set of triples. Singles should be banned from drive axle applications and only be allowed on trailer or steering axles. I can't believe this is still happening!
It's extremely rare to hear a knowledgeable comment like yours ( I am from Alberta ) as it seems most often when I happen to watch videos like this, be it trucks going over I 70 in Colorado or here on Donner etc, that seems to be the theme of using singles and they consider themselves all chained up drive tire wise when they throw singles on the outer four drive corners. If conditions are not too awful that probably gets a fair amount of the trucks through ok that have a proper balance of weight on the drives. I suspect various factors in this single chain theme, companies that buy the bare minimum tire chains for company drivers, not enough placement on the truck to hang two sets of triples plus another two sets of singles for the steers and drag chains on the trailer. Weight being yet another factor, I get the impression some companies don't want any more dead weight on the truck than they are forced to carry. The drive tires on those trucks, probably not ideal winter tires, I would be surprised if fleet companies in general order their trucks with four way lockers. I have only presumed that chaining the outside drive tires is considered sufficient to cover the chain law requirement ( not logic based on condition requirements, just to satisfy DOT I suspect ). That certainly doesn't happen up here in the oil patch or log hauling etc as per off road chaining practices as 8mm trygg triples ( they have the round knobs on the cross chains ) are standard fare and while tandem body jobs can usually get away with one set of triples, highway tractors need two sets and still spin out on the more insane hills. I laughed at the cattle pot that went roaring by these spun out trucks, hmmm, any chance he had on two sets of triples ( plus good weight distribution ) as he wasn't having issues and there would be a reason for that. Packed snow or mud are two surfaces that have trucks fall flat on their face trying to run singles with that bare tire beside holding the truck up after the chained tire spits out the surface it clawed away.
@@charlesb4267 You bring up some very valid points for the use of singles vs triples, I can see that you've obviously been up and down the road a time or two as well.
I'm from BC and have been trucking in the Pacific Northwest for over 40 years, long haul highway first then regional mixed with a lot mining and logging road time. Retired now.
I believe for the sake of safety and the ability to keep major highways open that the use of singles should banned from use on drive axle applications on major arterial routes and interstates.
Also now that with the trend to "just in time inventory" our highways have become our nations warehouses it saddens me to see the quality of skilled drivers out there declining to the point that many now are essentially just steering wheel holders. This doesn't help much, have seen all too many instances of drivers not having a clue on how to put on a set of chains. Never mind when to chain up.
Rant off. LOL
Yeah, LOVE those Trygg chains!
Have a good one!!!
@@74willy81 Sad to say but I have a fraction of the experience you possess in the trucking industry, my experience commercially related dates back well over 30 years ago when I worked for a short time for Schlumberger doing frac and cementing jobs, went up the Chinchaga forestry road a certain amount that winter and then way off into the middle of nowhere on cutlines over the muskeg ( winter time of course ), was up in the Pink Mountain area once. Years back did ride with a couple of friends who drove log truck hauling from south of Grande Prairie and tried my hand at slinging load cables ( I needed more practice ! ) . I grew up on a farm and that is how I try to make my living, we have a few highway tractors to haul grain to the local grain terminals and always have a set of triple tryggs hanging on the truck just in case but only throw them on if I find myself in a situation as otherwise simply stop hauling if its that bad as at least we have that choice. I expect your right, there would be a fair percentage of trucks going over passes like that in the states that are over their head with the conditions and putting on insufficient chains and end up getting themselves into a major mess and grind everything to a halt for those that know what they are in for and have the jewellery and know how to use them. We used to get grain custom hauled more back when we didn't have a semi and one of those times the outfit we happened to hire is having traction issues in the yard due to ice, had a melt and refreeze and was flat ground but with no surprise he started having major traction issues as he got into his second trailer of his Super B and I asked if he should probably throw a chain to give him the little bit of help his truck needed. Turns out he had no tire chains and why, oh its because they take up payload so hes not going to carry any chains around. Every so often we would get a super trucker like that, I didn't have chains to fit his truck so I assisted with a tow rope and a small farm tractor I had with tire chains for plowing snow as it didn't take much ( our large four wheel drives have summer fuel and sit in the shed all winter ). I hate to think what a set of Tryggs cost these days. Thanks for the kind reply, oh and I bet your blood pressure starts to rise as you watch a video like this knowing the Donner pass parking lot situation is completely preventable.
All they had to do was keep a motograder patrolling the road all day
At 5:56 why chains on trailer axle? 🤷♂️
Some of you guys look like your going way to fast for the conditions😮
for all you americans, here a little tip from a canadian, use winter tires and use your 4x4
LOL, do you think they will pay any attention to us Canadians, they have had years to take notes but most don't, not from the southern states anyway. What blows me away is that a state like Minnesota that most certainly has winter roads and in fact gets a lot of horrible ice road conditions due to their weather patterns, the law in that state prohibits them from using tires that are studded and in fact have laws against running tire chains as well other than certain situations. Here in Alberta its legal to run studs 365 days a year if one wanted to and just assumed of course all the northern states would allow winter time use of studs.
Soo true!!! And use your brain, Americans
Global Warming has left the Chat!!
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Super Duty fail lol. Oh, it does not snow much anymore up here. Come on man.
A word of advice to the guy in the white 4x4. First so all turn on your 4 wheel drive. Second buy new tires!
I wonder if his four wheel drive was not functional as that certainly could have been a factor but his tires were genuine southern Cali issue. The sad part is all he would have needed is one set of chains for the rear axle and he would have been set to slowly make his way over the pass.
This white Pickup has 4Wheel Drive, whats wrong with him??
lol guy at 2:00 didnt even put it into 4wd.. then still cant get out w/ worn out tires
Wow, Civillians are downright scary trying to do vehicle recoveries.... Wrong equipment, underrated equipment, Hooked up wrong, wrong vehicle, wrong technique.... Then they wonder why things break or they get hurt... If you think hiring a professional is expensive.... Hire an amateur and see how expensive it gets....
Gibt es bei Euch keine Winterreifen?
Atmospheric river. You guys really wanna make it sound more than what it is it’s just a snow storm.
This is all insane! In those conditions it should be four wheel drive with chains on all wheels that have enough clearance! I see too many hot shots in their four wheel drive pickup trucks and their off road tires. How many people think that they can tow an eighteen wheel full loaded semi truck out of a slippery situation? Now I understand why I80 is closed so often, because it's not possible to drive up and down these steep mountain roads without driving a huge Caterpillar snowplow yourself!
Well, snow tires, 4x4, and a good driver go along ways in these conditions.
@@MB12116 Very few people have the true dedicated winter tires that are switched out at the end of each season.
@@mitchellbarnow1709 I agree. M+S are decent all season, but personally, I put on winter tires around early December depending on my first trip to Tahoe and will pull them off after my last winter trip. Highly recommend.
@@MB12116 You’re a smart person with my initials!
Great video, that suburban needs a proper tow strap… should’ve charged each truck $15 and you would have had it paid for 😂😂
$15.00 per tow, seriously?
@@larryfreeman7979 well, just to cover the cost of a $30 strap
Chaos!!!.... Global Freezing...... OMG!!!
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