I'd like to point out that tests on the Rolling Resistance page are really valid only on smooth surfaces, like tarmac. Rolling resistance off-road can highly and in unexpected ways differ from the RR test results. The Polish UA-camr, 'Wstał sprzed Kompa", has tested this quite reliably. Personally, I use cheap tyres, Obor Saturn Ring 700x38c, that came with my entry-level bike (Kross Esker 2.0 MS from 2023). Mostly because I did a stupid thing. Knowing that theoretically tubeless tyres can be run with the tubes, I bought the Challenge Getaway TLR model. The problem is, those things are so tight, that I couldn't install them on my narrow (19 mm inner wide) rims, not to say about inserting a tube in there. For now, original tyres serve me well, though I am thinking about upgrading - both tyres, as well as rims. I'm only not sure I will stay with the current bike or rather switch to something completely new, so I hesitate.
Same for the wet grip test. This test is only valid to asses the cornering ability on the smoothest of all surfaces. BRR writes: "It's critical to understand our static wet grip test works with a hard surface. This means the grip data is only directly useful for comparing tires on hard surfaces where the rubber compound creates the grip. Understanding the test results gets more difficult when grip is created by the knobs digging into the surface. On soft surfaces (loose sand, grass, etc), almost all grip will be created by the knobs digging into the surface, and our test results will be of little use."
I bought a Trek Checkpoint ALR 4 last year. My first gravel bike. It came with Bontrager 40 mm. I upgraded to Pirelli cinturato 45 mm tubeless. However, at 67 years of age, I decided to stay away from gravel and/or off road trails. I switched to Panaracer semi slick 38 mm tubeless. I love them! Still gives me balance and comfort while less road resistance. Via con dios, Sherry!
If you have the tire clearance (55mm) the Conti Race King offer even less rolling resistance than the Schwalbe RS. The Conti Race King seems to be the favorite choice on the Tour Divide in US (where comfort and durability plays an important role as well). Also to be considered: use grippy tire in the front and faster rolling tire in the back, e.g. Pirelli Gravel M in the front, Schwalbe RS in the back.
@buzzlong for really sandy conditions you want slick tires but very wide slick tires. You want to float over the sand instead of digging your self in to the sand. The rolling resistance table comes with big disclaimers, it is for perfect tarmac. It is good to use it as indicator but most information you can also get your self. The rolling resistance on broken tarmac or gravel can be totally different. Also the puncture test is very inaccurate, it take is based on how much pressure is applied till a needle will puncture your tire. But the true fact is that you should also in counter the fact the when you riding knobs in the center of your tire or wider tires, you are likely to apply less pressure on the sharp parts on the road/gravel.
Interesting - I run Pirelli gravel m 45 on the front and G-one RS 45 on the back - front wheel is usually quite unloaded so rolling resistance not so bad, where as lower RR on the back helps. Yet having the extra tread up front helps eliminate front wheel washouts where as skidding/washing out on the back far more controllable. I've not noticed much difference in RR over all but the extra front grip allows me to ride through rougher gravel faster.
The thing I don't get with this super large tires trend for gravel riding is the WEIGHT. Riding a bike with 1kg of tire on rotating mass, especially on climbs, is a great penalty. I've been alternating between 44mm and 36mm wide tires (Tufos) recently and it's night and day! Climbing with the 44mm definitely takes a lot more energy than with the 36mm, mainly because of the weight. So as you say in the video it really depends on what the terrain is ; mostly roads, light gravel tracks, fire roads and a few tracks here and there combined with elevation? I think 36/40mm might best suited and easier to ride on longer distances because you'll save a bunch of watts in the climbs. Mostly chunky/rocky gravel riding, MTB-like descents, unknown offroad terrains and conditions? 45/50mm or more is absolutely the best choice. Last, don't necessarily believe the hype; Lachlan Morton and Dylan Johnson are great athletes but poorly represent the average common gravel rider if you ask me; so we probably should make choices adapted to who we really are and what we can actually enjoy.
@aleksiumshanov how about thundero front and back? Did you try it? About punctures this tites are ok? I see there is an HD version more robist, maybe in the back.. do you use 40c or 44? Thanks
@@gabrielmarias972 I use it for a month. Although already like these ones. In dry weather - Thundero is better, and in wet weather - Swampero. The only drawback that I noticed was the difficulty in installation. Maybe try hookless rims with it. And puncture resistance is fantastic. Cheers!
I have been running the Pirelli Cinturato Gravel RC 40. These have gotten me through Unbound twice and Big Sugar once with no flats. With 60 TPI casings they are very sturdy and puncture resistant! Finally, I thought of you when I saw this song about a sheep on UA-cam: ua-cam.com/video/iC1Z2aO4SdA/v-deo.html
Great video! Thank you! I wasn't paying attention, did you wreck recently? Well, at least you look like you got our with scratches and bruises -- glad you are okay!
Very helpful video. Would you recommend the Pirelli Cinturato Gravel M 700C x 45m tires for the Badlands/Sierra Nevada route that you did in Andalusia?
Yes they are great! I think for Barlands I will ride the Pirelli Cinturato Gravel M in 45 mm and maybe of the conditions are dry I was thinking about experimenting with MTB tyres lbut I will have to check if I can fit them on my frame 😅
I'd like to point out that tests on the Rolling Resistance page are really valid only on smooth surfaces, like tarmac. Rolling resistance off-road can highly and in unexpected ways differ from the RR test results. The Polish UA-camr, 'Wstał sprzed Kompa", has tested this quite reliably. Personally, I use cheap tyres, Obor Saturn Ring 700x38c, that came with my entry-level bike (Kross Esker 2.0 MS from 2023). Mostly because I did a stupid thing. Knowing that theoretically tubeless tyres can be run with the tubes, I bought the Challenge Getaway TLR model. The problem is, those things are so tight, that I couldn't install them on my narrow (19 mm inner wide) rims, not to say about inserting a tube in there. For now, original tyres serve me well, though I am thinking about upgrading - both tyres, as well as rims. I'm only not sure I will stay with the current bike or rather switch to something completely new, so I hesitate.
Same for the wet grip test. This test is only valid to asses the cornering ability on the smoothest of all surfaces. BRR writes: "It's critical to understand our static wet grip test works with a hard surface. This means the grip data is only directly useful for comparing tires on hard surfaces where the rubber compound creates the grip. Understanding the test results gets more difficult when grip is created by the knobs digging into the surface.
On soft surfaces (loose sand, grass, etc), almost all grip will be created by the knobs digging into the surface, and our test results will be of little use."
thank you for the explanation :) best is to do a self test and see what works for you
I use the Specialized Pathfinder Pro. If you pump it up, it can go really fast on asphalt, with less pressure it is great on all kinds of gravel.
thank you 🙌
I bought a Trek Checkpoint ALR 4 last year. My first gravel bike. It came with Bontrager 40 mm. I upgraded to Pirelli cinturato 45 mm tubeless. However, at 67 years of age, I decided to stay away from gravel and/or off road trails. I switched to Panaracer semi slick 38 mm tubeless. I love them! Still gives me balance and comfort while less road resistance. Via con dios, Sherry!
thank you for sharing you experience :)
Did anyone test Pirelli cinturato 50mm on the front and 45mm rear ? I am thinking about this setup…
If you have the tire clearance (55mm) the Conti Race King offer even less rolling resistance than the Schwalbe RS. The Conti Race King seems to be the favorite choice on the Tour Divide in US (where comfort and durability plays an important role as well).
Also to be considered: use grippy tire in the front and faster rolling tire in the back, e.g. Pirelli Gravel M in the front, Schwalbe RS in the back.
yes thats next on my list, testing the Conti Race king
thank you for the tips sherry! ☺
thank you :)
@buzzlong for really sandy conditions you want slick tires but very wide slick tires. You want to float over the sand instead of digging your self in to the sand.
The rolling resistance table comes with big disclaimers, it is for perfect tarmac. It is good to use it as indicator but most information you can also get your self. The rolling resistance on broken tarmac or gravel can be totally different.
Also the puncture test is very inaccurate, it take is based on how much pressure is applied till a needle will puncture your tire. But the true fact is that you should also in counter the fact the when you riding knobs in the center of your tire or wider tires, you are likely to apply less pressure on the sharp parts on the road/gravel.
thanks for sharing your tips :)
Interesting - I run Pirelli gravel m 45 on the front and G-one RS 45 on the back - front wheel is usually quite unloaded so rolling resistance not so bad, where as lower RR on the back helps. Yet having the extra tread up front helps eliminate front wheel washouts where as skidding/washing out on the back far more controllable. I've not noticed much difference in RR over all but the extra front grip allows me to ride through rougher gravel faster.
thanks for sharing your experience :)
Great Information! Thanks!
thank you :)
Thank you for another super video... I like Schwalbe.....😀... looking forward to you next video.... 😇❤🚴🚵
thank you so much :)
The thing I don't get with this super large tires trend for gravel riding is the WEIGHT. Riding a bike with 1kg of tire on rotating mass, especially on climbs, is a great penalty. I've been alternating between 44mm and 36mm wide tires (Tufos) recently and it's night and day! Climbing with the 44mm definitely takes a lot more energy than with the 36mm, mainly because of the weight. So as you say in the video it really depends on what the terrain is ; mostly roads, light gravel tracks, fire roads and a few tracks here and there combined with elevation? I think 36/40mm might best suited and easier to ride on longer distances because you'll save a bunch of watts in the climbs. Mostly chunky/rocky gravel riding, MTB-like descents, unknown offroad terrains and conditions? 45/50mm or more is absolutely the best choice. Last, don't necessarily believe the hype; Lachlan Morton and Dylan Johnson are great athletes but poorly represent the average common gravel rider if you ask me; so we probably should make choices adapted to who we really are and what we can actually enjoy.
thank you for sharing you tips :)
I use combination Tufo Thundero rare and Swampero front
🙌 thank you
@aleksiumshanov how about thundero front and back? Did you try it? About punctures this tites are ok? I see there is an HD version more robist, maybe in the back.. do you use 40c or 44?
Thanks
@@gabrielmarias972 I use it for a month. Although already like these ones. In dry weather - Thundero is better, and in wet weather - Swampero. The only drawback that I noticed was the difficulty in installation. Maybe try hookless rims with it. And puncture resistance is fantastic. Cheers!
@@gabrielmarias972 and no I didn’t try front and back. But my mate did at Sraka 200. Wasn’t bad. He uses 40, I - 44
@@aleksiumshanov i have a pair of thunderos 40 ready to test for this summer
I have been running the Pirelli Cinturato Gravel RC 40. These have gotten me through Unbound twice and Big Sugar once with no flats. With 60 TPI casings they are very sturdy and puncture resistant! Finally, I thought of you when I saw this song about a sheep on UA-cam: ua-cam.com/video/iC1Z2aO4SdA/v-deo.html
thank you :) love the song, I wish I can use it
Great video! Thank you!
I wasn't paying attention, did you wreck recently? Well, at least you look like you got our with scratches and bruises -- glad you are okay!
thank you, yeah I had a crash while filming the video :(
Very helpful video. Would you recommend the Pirelli Cinturato Gravel M 700C x 45m tires for the Badlands/Sierra Nevada route that you did in Andalusia?
Yes they are great! I think for Barlands I will ride the Pirelli Cinturato Gravel M in 45 mm and maybe of the conditions are dry I was thinking about experimenting with MTB tyres lbut I will have to check if I can fit them on my frame 😅
What’s the reflector/light threaded on to your Apidura?
Is a reflector from amazon, super small and light weight, I leave the link in the description
Gracias Hija.
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I never get tyred of beautiful buzz 🐝
thank you :)
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I won't use a tire unless it's been recommended by cheep.
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