Test 2021 KTM 1290 Super Adventure - The KTM Big Twins
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- Опубліковано 27 лис 2021
- Test 2021 KTM1290 Super Adventure is the second episode in a three part series call, 'The KTM Big Twins'
The series will test the two latest big twin adventure bikes to come from KTM, the 2021 KTM890 Adventure R and the 2021 KTM 1290 Super Adventure.
In the final episode we'll compare both bikes and discuss what they have to offer the motorcycle adventure community. - Авто та транспорт
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Hi loved the video. I was wondering how tall you 2 are? Iam 174cm and thinking about getting this bike but not sure if it is too tall, nearest KTM dealership is 5 hours away.
@@Potist 178cm
I love those roads through the woods that winded in and out of trees, so beautiful there. nice job you got there. Thank you for taking me along from the other side of the world.
Thanks for visiting
Great job as usual Dave and Clubby. I appreciate the focus on 2 up riding. My wife was very glad to hear about the flat seat as it is her #1 complaint on the AT. Can't wait for it to be released in the states. Again, well done.
Yeah it would be great in the States. Flat rear seat is a bonus. I first learnt that years ago when testing the Super Tenere when it first came out.
And that’s what I call a “ Bike review “
Awesome guys .. putting bike through its paces in rugged country , tarmac n fantastic finish at the SHB .. what a backdrop it was !! Perfect ..
U guys r inspiring me to get into ADV riding .. I ride 2 of Harley’s classic .. 2021 CVO limited n 2021 Fat Boy .. absolute beasts .. perfect for touring n pinnacle of comfort on the bitumen !! never been on dirt or stood up on the pegs !! always floor boards for me !! but feel like missing the country roads , adv country ..
u guys have been an inspiration.. seriously considering adv bikes .. thanks for such an awesome hr of pure entertainment ..
Thanks Jim
Dave, once again thanks for all the great content! As a current 1090r (mod bastardized to a giant dirtbike now) owner I always like keeping up with the new stuff coming down the pipe. I have intentionally been saving your recent full trip documentaries for a rainy day (quite literally here in BC) and was not disappointed. Keep up the awesome stuff, how about a Canada trip once the Rona is done ;)
Sounds great!
Awesome. I really enjoy watching your full length bike reviews even if I don't have in plans buying a new one. So informative. And the scenery is awesome.
By the way I think this is the first time I saw Sydney by night in your movie 💪🏽
Glad you like them! We are city slickers, so I think in the wrap up we need to show a bit more.
A big thank you for making quality videos, inspirational even.
Glad you like them!
This is the most thorough product review I have seen. Full of common sense and every day riding topic concerns. I just bought one before I finished the conclusion. The comments about the 890 took me by surprise. Not to worry, I spend more time on tarmac and would like the two up abilities.
It will serve you well.
The setting and discussion in the "wrap up" scene is a beauty. Great channel content as always.
Much appreciated! I had a feeling maybe we talked to too much, but I thought I'd give it a go and see what the audience think.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I think it's the talking "too much" which you nail pretty much every single time; it is pitched at the right mix of natural banter, useful information and humour. We're lapping it up, mate.
@@board.member Viewer numbers will tell in the end.
Excellent video as always - Clubby did a great job!
Many thanks! I will convey to him your comments.
Been waiting for your review on 1290 AR and you boys didn’t disappoint. Some great information as always and I’ll certainly be using this to make my decision between the 1250 GSA and the 1290 AR. Test ride booked for Friday here in U.K but slight different weather we having here compared to youse guys ❄️ ☃️ ATB Mac 🍻
Yes a tad wet for us at present.
Brilliant reviews lads; this sold me the bike 👍
Enjoy it it's a great bike.
Great review, Dave. Congrats. I really like this bike, I think it will be the substitution of my old 990 adv. Greetings from Spain.
A great bike for the Pyrennes.
What a review, just sayed it all!!👌
Waiting for my 1290sadv R, hope this week she will be here😍😍
Enjoy it. It really is a great bike.
let me grab the popcorns!! One more excellent "documentary"!!
thank you
Stunning landscapes, stunning bikes, man needs nothing more....fantastic detail 👌
Glad you enjoyed it
Great video guy's, Thanks Dave.
Thanks 👍
Excellent review and looking forward to your final episode and conclusions. With my age, size and modest skills the 1290 probably a bit much but still an impressive machine.
I love riding it. It really is a comfortable mile muncher. The low seat height makes it accessible to a range of riders that may not have thought of that type of bike.
Excellent video! I placed my order in October for the R. I’m in the USA and we are hopeful we will see them early 22 or before, Waiting patiently 😎
Fingers crossed! They are a great bike. You'll really enjoy it.
Great review you blokes !
I have the previous model and l had the 1190 before that. Glad to hear that this one is even better.
Next time l am in nsw l will be looking for that 400 klm loop. Love to know where it is watching that made me want to get out and ride.👍👍👍👍
Our pleasure! Not hard, just head to Oberon and poke around there.
Great review. Well done!
Thanks
Another great video from you guys, keep it up. Dave mentioned that he had Chris Birch's Australian bike. Chris in a recent video said that he's gone down a tooth on the front sprocket with his own bike. It would be interesting to know if its the same with this one.
I think this is his bike in Australia. But I'm not really sure.
I saw you that Monday you were on your own with the 1290 having a toasted sandwich for lunch at the Great Northern Trading Post. Was going to follow you to find this suspension test track of yours but the girlfriend and car wouldnt have appreciated dirt 😅
Awesome content, worth every editting hour!
Ha ha!
Another fantastic one, Dave and Clubby! My 990 ADV R fits nicely in between the 1290 and 890, and I'm just not sure I want to give it up yet 😁 What's the name of the acoustic song in the background here? Amazing shot of the Sydney skyline at the end! Thanks again, guys!
Thanks mate. It's Royalty Free Music from Audio Jungle.
Another great review guys, ive had my 2008 990 ADV S SINCE NEW and have not wanted to change until this bike , or the S model .cant decided .
lots of dirt = R model
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Yes coming off the 990 i think the R is me, have cut my teeth in the Watagan Mts ..
I bought the R and got a set of S wheels for road, best of both worlds.
Amazing Content !!
Thank you 🙌
keep up the good work
Great honest review guys 👍 Yep, I can't afford one, but would love to do some long range touring on machines like those- built to explore vast distances for sure. 😎
Oofroad, comfortable mile munchers.
Well done, a good test & comparo! For my 2bobs worth, I own a 1290SA-T & a well sorted 950ADV-Lo so my comments might be biased. I really understand the changes / improvements but @70 and 5/11, they wont shift me now. However ... The new switch gear on the 1290 strikes me as prone to damage in falls or slips. I have had this with BMWs. My older SA-T has switches like the 890 but with a very positive indicator press for off! BUT in reality KTM nails switch simplicity compared to others. Those bags on Clubby's bike are KTM branded R2R (actually made by Enduristan) . The original design is the Blizzard which has 3 sizes & extra attachments. Now I could rave on about VTwins and the 950 (knowing it's limitations in tight stff) and I like real keys, but ....
Thank you for your contribution.
Great video, producing/editing an hour of content must take forever! Figuring out what bike(s) will fit you and what you want to do with it/them is a challenge, and your channel is a brilliant resource! I was on my 690 yesterday riding parts of the CA BDR (7 & alt 7) and was thinking two things: I really wouldn’t want a heavier bike (only had to pick it up once so that was a win) for the technical stuff (although maybe an 890…) and a 100km section of blacktop without any wind protection after a decently hard day of riding is really not ideal. What I really want is a 500 EXE that turns into 1290 when it’s on the street-can you put a word in for me at KTM?
ha ha!
I think the 690 is the closest you'll ever get to that combination of a 500 exc on the trails and 1290 on the road :)
Good job. I'm not even mildy interested in buying, but I still enjoyed the video!
Glad you enjoyed!
Thanks for a great review! This bike was the second choise when I bought my 890adr. Hearing that this is even lower than the 890 I now am sure I made the right choise. I think the distance between footpeg and saddle is too short on the 890...I need a higher saddle...even if I am only 179cm tall...but i have long legs...
Thank you
another great review dave and clubby! no issues here with audio?
Ive always pined for one of the KTM big twins (since the 950), but ended up with a gen1 vstrom, so im kinda sorta heading the right direction, right? ;)
any clues on some of the road / trail riding you did (public stuff only of course)? i did recognize some of the oberon stuff ..
safe riding and keep it coming!
All around Oberon with the exception of the suspension testing which is my loop from Sydney, out to Kulnura, Yengo, Watagan Creek Road and other odds and ends. And of course lunch at Laguna.
I could not care less about those motorcycles (way too big) , but i like your adventures. Thank you for the show !
Glad you like them!
Every time I see a water crossing (08:07) with smooth concrete surface, I recall how slippery it can be with moss buildup. My past experience on my 1090R, it felt like sheet of ice with extra virgin olive oil to boot.
Yep. I've seen some classic crashes and a couple on that weir.
Great review,if your ever over to isle of man,check out druidale/Baldwin route,fantastic.but its best here after t.t as you'll have the whole island to yourself (and it cheaper! 😀 🇮🇲
Cool, thanks!
Great review as always. I bought a KTM 390 Adventure after your review on it. It’s a fun easy bike to explore on. Where are those beautiful dirt roads you rode on in relation to Oberon? I’d love to find them.
Get your maps out and head west.
Great review, keen to ride the fire trails that you rode out the back of Oberon, is there a map or entry / exit location. Looks like they would be great for a off road starter. Thanks so much
Sorry mate as a rule we don't give our tracks but we do leave hints for those that put in the effort.
Love watching your adventures but when you are in that country u need to stop And flick a lure around for a trout use to ride my525 doing that court fish had a great ride love your channel
Not much of a fisherman
Man love those bike I would like to have one someday 😁
You and me both!
I'm finding it hard to choose between tiger 1200 rally pro and 1290 adventure r I rode KTM off-road the other day and was impressed I've ridden road version of tiger not off-road I'm coming from on last two bike Triumph road bikes so bit brand loyal I feel love the channel keep that excellent content going 😊
If you want to do a lot of dirt I'd suggest the 1290
Hi Dave ! As always great video but ! Leave your boss at home next time! You are the brand ! You are the man people want to listen too when it comes to a bike review! With your previous videos you created this brand which I think you should follow through ! Little comments of peoples have their place but you should be dominant and leading in a review! You got this riding style many people compare themselves with so we want Dave in a review! No criticism I like what you do and looking forward you testing the desert x next !!
Thaks Frank. The next test is the Kawasaki, followed by the Norden then there's a heap of bikes after that.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I hope I beat you to the Norden, mine is coming in March.
Great review for you and Clubby . I’ve owned the new 1290s model for 5 months and yes the indicator switch was awkward at first but you get used to pushing down on it instead of in , it works fine . The S model screen is taller and would be your choice. As a older rider I find the 1290 TFT size is a winner for quick glance over the much smaller 890 screen. I rode in the KTM Rally in QLD this year and witnessed Chris B smash the R model thru everything, I’ve no doubt what this bike can do . I ride my 2008 KTM 950se for my off-road fix . I love my 1290s for my long distance touring. Also a great all rounder . Keep the great reviews coming Dave . Cheers Mark
Thank you for your contribution Mark. Great to hear from a real user and that we are close to the money in our experiences and comments.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Also Dave when you get a chance to use and try adaptive cruise control on a bike you’ll love it . The S model has it.
Great video. I do love seeing the scenery from Australia (I am "half" Aussie but have lived in Canada most of my life).
I am not in any way opposed to 'tech' on bikes. It is evident that they can improve the ride characteristics as you point out. Watching this video two things made me say, "Why?"; The self-locking electronic gas cap and the electronic seat release.. What do you do if 100 miles from nowhere when something like this breaks? Seems to me overkill in the 'tech' department.
Thanks for sharing!
I very much agree with you Marshall about all the electronical parts, but how much of the things we use on a daily basis aren't already heavily tech-specced? A Tesla is as electronical as you get them, could leave you stranded. Your phone is as well, could get you out of a tricky situation if you need help. A motorcycle is used harder in harsher environments absolutely, but if electronics elsewhere work fine and has become reliable, shouldn't it be in a motorcycle as well? I'm not arguing for or against here, I'm just sharing my thoughts as this very question you bring up is something I think about myself too. I just bought a Husky 701 which is full of tech, at least compared to my previous bikes. I plan on taking that bike to remote areas on my adventures.
Hi Dave, thanks for your review. Did you happen to do the lift test in the dirt? If you happen to drop the bike in the trails, are you able to lift it up yourself? For my 1090, due to length, I need help to lift it right side up. Thanks
I didn't. Bit bikes are all bloody heavy
Great work you guys doing, let me do a question, in your opinion for a rookie what kind of bike you choose?? Thanks for your share top videos 😉👌
KTM390 Adventure R, Honda CRF300, Kawasaki 300 Versys, Enfield Himalayan. I haven't included the Suzuke DR 400 or 650 because they don't make them any more. But they are a solid bike.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV thanks for the tips. One more question, you have any rewiew ou something like abaut yamaha xt 600? Thanks 😉
@@sergiotalves We look at the XT, but I don't think it is a test as I recall. Still tons of information on it.
That’ll be the next adventure bike I buy. I’ve owned plenty of BMWs.
the 1290 is a beautfully handling bike and I loved the power delivery
Great video. How is the slow speed handling and balance compared to an R1250GS standard?
With the lower seat height they are real close. Hard to pick them apart. I'd give it to the KTM......but only just.
Funny you mention the indicator switch. I said the same to a KTM tech the other day. I really dislike that button and the trouble to switch it off, or it switches to indicating on the other side. And the guy just goes: “Well, the bikes switches it off by itself. Don’t worry about it, just don’t touch it.” 😄
Yes. but you don't necessariy want it on that long. Particularly with lane changing. Irritating as the switch block on the 890 is so much better.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Oh, I know. It really does annoy me. But it is the same on the GS and the new Panamerica. I don’t really like auto-cancelling indicators. They either work too long, or too short. Perhaps they should incorporate a lean angle sensor for the switch off. It can switch off after you have moved through a turn. ;) I am not sure I would say he 890 is much better. I do think all the switchgear feels a bit more flimsy on that.
Hello, actually I would like to know your point of view as you have tried also the previous 1290 SAR: do you consider that the 2021 is a big improvement compare to the previous model? I am asking because I tried a 2019 model and found it so nice, that I am not sure this model, I still have to test it, brings so much as an addition.
2021 much improved.
Good stuff,thanks guys.So in summary its the 890?
If not taking a pillion and you like the more technical stuff.
Great review! Just bought one. Being "fairly" tall (203cm) and coming from a 2007 990s (265mm suspension) I found the 1290 to fit me much better than the 890 Rally I really wanted too as it kinda shares the purpose of the old 990! But just felt to small of a bike with standard ergos at leat. Your big mate Ed Shephard in South New Zealand, iss he on social media?
Yes. On facebook
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV ahh, a bit private 🤣
How’s the vibration in the bars? My 2019 was so bad it made my hands numb. I have a deposit on the new R but so debating on going back to the GS.
None.
If the pillion is truely flat and not slanted, my wife will approve. They won't bring these to North America until 2022. By then I'm wondering if the new Triumph 1200 tiger will compare. I'm 190cm (6'3") and hope its not too cramped siting for long distances. Just wish adaptive cruise control could be an option on this machine. Great scenery, great reivew!
Spoilt for choice. I would imagine we will test the Triumph 1200, but not sure when.
What model klim jacket and pants are you wearing dave?
What would you suggest as a good all round model for Australian conditions? For both the blistering hot and mildly cold.
Firstly I just want to declare I am supported by Adventure Moto, who fit me out with KLiM gear. That aside, although expensive, I would buy a KLiM suit regardless. For all weather conditions 40 degrees to -6 degrees I have gone for the Badlands Pro for international rides, primarily because of protection and the D30 armour. I'm pretty confident many people would say that's way to hot for the hot weather. I find I can regulate my temperature and I take the jacket off if stopped for long periods. I also have a KLiM Dakar jacket that goes great in the heat and I can instal my D30 armour into the jacket but I wouldn't like to wear that in the cold. The new Kodiak is great and has a puffer jacket that is very effective when it gets cold. My other very strong view is whatever you get needs to be Gortex based, water proof. Makes a huge difference with managing fatigue on big long rides. My strong view, head into Adventure Moto and try on a couple of things. Get ready for the price shock, but remember you get quality that is going to last years.
Thanks Dave the feedback is much appreciated. 👍
Dave tell us something about your riding suit.. it looks like something new n good..
KLiM Badlands A3 nist abrasib resistent suit on the market if you go down the road. Also has D30 at key vulnerability points. Read up on the magicial stuff for protection. Breathes unbelievably, so very comfortable in a range of temperatures. It's like being in an air conditioned room. Temp very constant. Very expensive but wears amazingly well. Need to say I am supported by Adventure Moto and all my gear is sponsored. That said. I'd still buy it. It is that good.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV sounds great.. then can we expect a review on that stuff in your convenient time..
Quite simply have a higher screen and lower it when off road ......... if there is enough movement.
Agree, The S screen.
See you soon.. Sunday.
Yep.
What were you guys getting for fuel range with the 1290 ?
Whatever we say in the video
Dave, you made numerous comments re carrying a pillion but didn’t do it. I carry my partner all the time and it would be very valuable to obtain first hand feedback rather than guess. Yes a flat wide seat is essential of both riders. One other comment. I have read lots of owner reports of the big KTM Vtwins over the years and the uncomfortable amount of heat coming from the rear cylinder and exhaust pipe. Surely that should have warranted a comment.
Heating is gone. Air flow completely redirected. I forgot to put that in the review. Pillions are scarce in the time and locations we had. Difficult to find a pillion at the time of shooting.
can you not turn indicators off by pressing in the indicator button?
Yes, but it's a fiddle
Monster power 😳
How would it run on Opel fuel?
Don't know.
The biggest issue ktm faces with their 1290 SADV R is can they make enough bikes to supply the demand!?
From our experience in Australia a present every manufacturer is facing the same chalenge.
Hmm those bags looks a lot like Enduristan Blizzard...... like identical
Ah.
Unfortunately Clubby was very quiet and hard to hear in this vid.
Ha ha
How does it compare to the 1250GS?
So close. Both brilliant bikes. If anything slightly more dirt oriented.
Would you ride it Cairns to Darwin?
For our trip, that is recorded on this channel, it would have been a handful on the 2nd day with all that mud. But apart from that yep.
Use rough roads mostly unless you want to lose your licence.
A very good point. Strongly agree.
So what you're saying is they messed it up form 190cm+ riders?
In terms of screen? Just buy the optional biger screen for the 1290
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV i meant the ergos
@@impact0r can get a thicker seat.
Too bad it seems like Husky dropped the ball and used Apex instead of Xplor suspension…
Let's wait and see.
Guys, you're ring 40k Euro worth of adventure bikes in full Klim gear, worth at least another kidney on this side of Atlantic. For the love of God, spend the hundred bucks and buy a microphone! Other than that great and insightful review. You can't imagine how much I envy the riding over there.
Sound is a challenge sometimes, we agree.
Spot on, get some cheap lapel mics with 5m cords or directional mics on the camera or remote mics for both riders.
@@MrEtnorb I hate to say it. I have all that gear and more. Great dual channel radio mics, directional mics, just didn't have the room.
These videos make me wish I was an Aussie citizen something awful!!
We are so lucky to have thousands and thousands of kilometres of tracks to explore.
Smoking jacket. LOL.
A favourite saying of Clubby's
$32,000! That much money for a motorcycle and they have electronically removed features? Buy a license key to make it all work? That is a deal breaker for me. Not acceptable. Come on KTM, stop taking the piss. I'm a die hard KTM fan but do not accept this business approach at all.
I appreciate your point of view. In the same breath a huge amount of R & D went into getting that almost perfect.
Bags are made by Enduristan
Probably for KTM
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV yes and also now for Husqvarna Norden
impressive how ugly those bikes look...
Look great to me.