Will Bosnia become the next European battleground after Ukraine? | VPRO Documentary
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- Bram Vermeulen travels to Bosnia, where war demons are once again haunting the country. Even after thirty years after the start of the civil war. After Ukraine, will Bosnia become the next battlefield?
Serbian nationalists again stir up hatred against Muslims and threaten to split off the Serbian part of Bosnia. They are fully supported by the Russian President Vladimir Putin, who sees the Serbs as blood brothers and Bosnia as his backyard where he can put pressure on the international community.
Originally aired on September, 15 2022.
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"The only thing that we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history". (quote from Georg Hegel)
That was also said in a discussion about the use of CRISPR on the 11th.
The book is a tabboo, no wonder
The Dutch soldier must feel immense guilt but the women are right - what the peacekeepers did was disgraceful and they could have protected them if they wanted to.
If the European Union and the United States keep appeasing fascists then yes because Bosnian patriots will have no choice but to defend themselves eventually.
Brate, sve do toga vodi - a mi smo spremni da branimo Bosnu ⚜⚜⚜
@@r_a_n_d_o_m_i_z_e_r Kako? S kojom vojskom i s kojim oruzjem? Isto smo nespremni kao i 1992. godine.
@@tarik6990 istom vojskom i istim srcem kao i 90-tih, kad Juga nije mogla ne moze ni manji entitet i Smrdija
@@r_a_n_d_o_m_i_z_e_r Danas su okolnosti puno gore za nas nego tada a jos vise smo nespremni. Danas 80% Bosnjaka bi pobjegli iz drzave u slucaju rata.
@@tarik6990 vidjet cemo...
Great documentary thx for reporting on my country please pray for us all!
🙏✌️🇺🇦👍
Places like Srebrenica, Prijedor, Bijeljina, Foča, Ključ, Višegrad and many villages around those places are the reasons we will never let Republic Srpska break away from Bosnia. Those are the places where innocent civilians have been killed in the name of a greater Servia.
unite take up arms. revenge is best served cold. fire is fought with fire
You can never trust someone whose eyes are looking in two different directions.
It's a shame this short documentary hasn't more views.
The only luck republika srpska had is that the USA asked the Croatian army to not destroy them during
⚡Operation Storm ⚡
and now we have that problem in BiH.
ooo sta shaaa
@@goranmiljus2664 jedini ustaša ovdje ispadaš ti .... moja obitelj se borila i ginula protiv nacizna i fašizma a jedan pradjed završio u Dachau a jedan djed vozio tita na briunima a drugi bio kapetan korvete u jna i razminirao mora u JNA a moj otac odradio cijeli domovinski rat a ja služio HRV. Tako da primitivče neuki pun predrasuda keyboard ratniče . Ostani u rupi iz koje si danas izgmizao i zakucaj se za tom tipkovnicom i čuti.
Operation storm stopped because the Croat / Muslim forces realised the further east they were conquering, the more difficult the battle was getting.
Bosnian Serb forces were starting to have successful counter attacks westwards when the western outskirts of Banja Luka was attacked.
They thought it was best to stop fighting rather than accuring more battlefield losses.
Plus Clinton was pushing for peace with the Dayton agreement.
A lot of north western Bosnia was handed back to republic serbska as exchange for the land given up to connect Gorazde with Muslim Bosnia.
Serbs ended up with 49% of Bosnia, Muslim/Croat shared 51%.
-What did putin do for you?
-Alot
-Like what?
-He respected our efforts...
????
It's incredible how deluded they are
@@kittykittykittywhere hahah they are not! :) I'm bosnian, translation is correct 1/1, 100%. That man is delusional.
you dont have idea and you cant understand cos you r not Serbian.
That Dutch soldier - I have huge respect for him. And I say that as a Bosniak. I hope he finds peace.
@@RobespierreThePoofgo to some of their former colonies like South Africa and ask. Their opinions of the Dutch will probably surprise you .
@@Felixxxxxxxxx South Africa was a prosperous country when Dutch ruled there and now SA is in stone age.
EU and the West have been too soft on Serbia for 2 decsdes now.Serbian nationalism is alive and well again
Just give us bosnians 5 % of what you give Ukraine and we won't stop untill we reach Moscow or Beijing.
We fought of 3 sides with an embargo the world has placed on us
u all run to germany sweden norway denmark austria and swizzerland. anyways what did muslims do in balkan for over 500 years is nothing to what happend in sebrenica befor sebrenica happend muslims ran around in serbian villages killing 4500 ppl hanging them cuting there heads and 2000-2500 soilder whent hiding in civiland clothing whit the alrdy refugees at sebrenica.
your whole nation will be demolished in a couple of days. Relax rambo
baaa liii aaa
@@goranmiljus2664 k nozi, kmetu
@@bosanskipatriota2295 baaaaaaaliaaaaaaa smrrrraaaaaaddd
There will be no another war in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Milorad Dodik created current crisis by dismissing the rule of the Supreme Court on teritory of entity Republika Srpska, just to try to leverage more transfer of funds from state budget because economy in that entity is a disaster. It's just one of his tricks to try to leverage more money for his rule, but enough is enough - there will be no agreement for fund transfer until they take back that decision and adopt all necessary reforms to join EU. Hopefully he will end up in jail. If war breaks out however by some chance, we Bosniaks will defend our country, every inch of it, again and every time our mother Bosnia needs us. Personally, as a Bosniak, I do not blame the Netherlands and Dutch bat. UN deployed young Dutch soldiers, with only pistols and rifles, to protect enclave that was surrounded by Serb heavy artillery and tanks, and Serb forces vastly outnumbered the Dutch. I blame Japan's head secretary of UN, Yasushi Akashi who did not give green light for USAF and USN to take action and to send in heavy armor, marines, and aircraft. He is to blame and the UN. Not those kids from Dutch bat. They didnt have a chance.
Why was that monster never taken accountable? First time I read that name.
I thank you on behalf of all these victims laying in the graves due to someone's great sebia idea... Lets hope it never happens again, but this time if it happens, it would not be like 30 years ago. 30 years ago we were naked not even a knife in our hands today we got at least something and still greater heart than the one they cant even imagine.
prezime ti je na ic prestani brukati svoj narod i shvatite da ste poturceni srbi i da ce se kad tad ponovo desiti ovo sto se deesilo 90 tih godina ne zato sto ja ocu ili ti nego zato sto treba prati novac i krasti decu i organe.U prevodu da ce nam ameri i nemci jos demokratije ahahhaha
Ne ne niste imali nista ,pošteni Bošnjaci
@@nslavulj nista a opet ste pusu dobili zamisli da smo imali sto sad imamo / B===)
He is a symbol of the type people who have to be defeated in order for the world to achieve a lasting peace
Well said. Peace isn’t cheap.
The world's isn't in peace lmfao.
It just gives me heartache watching same genocidal warlords promising bloodshed, and same nationalist rhetoric and fascist indoctrination.... It was not surprising that the international community found the solution in the gallows after the WW 2. Saying "no" out loud and punishing the culprit stops the conflict.
Why can’t those Chetniks be normal ?
Because they are monsters, stsrting from WW2 till now
@@aislaewu8874i think you should read a little about ww2 and who were the ustachas before opening your mouth 😂
@@Miguel-uh3oo Miguel you can not teach me my own history. Chetniks government signed peace treat with Hitler. Also, search little bit for cooperation betwen chetniks and nazzis, especially with italian facists
@@aislaewu8874 literally never happened and false communist propaganda. You know your history so well that you’re completely ignorant of this fact. Way to go buddy
Serbs have been terrorising their neighbours since thr end of WW1.Serbs have opressed Sloveens,Croats,Bosnian Muslims,Albanians,Hungariand and Bulgarians
The serbs didn't 4get the past,that's why we fought like tigers 2 not allow the past 2 happen again 2 us.
well produce documentary by Vpro on current political situation taking place in Republika Srpska. Very concerning and we could see another war very soon if we take this lightly.
You all wish it, don't you?? Noone asks people from Bosnia and Herzegovina what they think about it
The delusions of these Serbs will always make me laugh 😂
Instead of Serbia disrupting Bosnia, Serbia itself should be disrupted.
Agreed.
It should have been done during the 1992-1995 war, it's too late for that war and the EU is in full appeasement mode of Vucic and Dodik.
Inshallah, there will never be another Srebrenica. If the whole world turns against Bosniaks, and for what it's worth, I am with Bosniaks till the end. May Allah swt bring peace to Bosnia, and everywhere in the Balkans, so that Christians and Muslims and Jews, may live and let live. 🤍💚🇵🇰❤️🇧🇦💙🤍💛
Srebrenica happening right now in Ukraine
bosnians are weak they gave in and today pretend like nothing happened they let war criminals take half of there country and today they deny a genocide and make war criminals as heros serbians are truly fucked but the enemy only understands force.
@@Bosniak803and in Gaza.
Nope fk that, leave Bosnia alone
they can try all they want, they will lose again!!! IM READY
It’s always a few at the top telling people that some line on a map is what matters, or a flag, or a book. It’s funny how those few claim that they are the only ones that can protect it, but everyone else will have to do what they say to make that happen. Meanwhile, what really matters to people - food, shelter, education, a decent job, a house, a family, medical care, a chance to retire - gets sacrificed for that line or flag or book, but really to put the few in the position of adoration they crave. Someone should ask them when was the last time they really helped someone with what mattered, when they actually built something up rather than tore something down. They’ll fall back to the line or flag or book, but it’s a poor answer.
They can try what they want we wont lose. And we will always win!
O believers! Take neither Jews nor Christians as guardians-they are guardians of each other. Whoever does so will be counted as one of them. Surely Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people. - 5:51 The Quran
I don't blame the Dutch (UN) for not preventing it, the God (swa) in the Quran tells us exactly what would happen if Muslims take Christians (or Jews) as their guardians... I blame the president of presidency of Republic of BiH, who agreed that Srebrenica is to be part of 'UN "safe" zone', especially since (rah) Alija was considered to be devout Muslim. He should have known!!
comies, looking for another war and then saying that its others fault!...more episodes of the evil empire and russian terrorist state
Yugoslavia is the victims of west vs east hegemony since they are NAM (Jakarta Method), hope there is any others Tito rise again.
Yugoslavia was the victim of Serbian nationalism
Being 70, lifelong learning, understanding, observation, experience, re-examination 24/7 365.
Like myself, anyone who was a child in the mid 40's to the mid 50's born to parents born in the first decade of the 20th century as mine were, is suffering a trauma, a 'deep' trauma.
The lies we heard back then told of a world peace in this 21st century, and now those born to parents born in the 80's are the second wave of a trauma, the world is suffering a viral trauma a deep, deep trauma.
There is no higher authority than the conscious cognosentient being (human) to end this traumatic sickness.
The paradoxical irony is that only the conscious cognosentient being (human) creates everything on this only earth.
Love always
So you are interested in our catastrophe ? Why don't you read Michael Parentis book 'To Kill a Nation ' - it might give you some answers.
And there is a big role of America and West in all of this... New countries, new market, workforce, weapon trade and so on...
That’s why the Serb nationalists are seen simping with posters of Putin. Try harder, comrad.
@@thomastoadie9006 There are nationalists in all ex Yugoslavia states. I hate nationalism. But USA and other west countries role in Yugoslav wars is undisputable! The things they all doing today in other sovereign countries(all of them, including Russia) is sickening and all for money and more wealth.
USA didn't order those civilians to be executed, Serbs did. So stfu with your whataboutism already. You're just embarrassing yourself. @@zoranpetrovic5319
so far thought Putin has put the world 50 years back, but now believe we are in the Stalin era
This man does not know peace!
Colonel Thomas Jakob Peter Karremans the Big Organizator in Srebrenica
Serbian "special military operation" before it became popular in Russia.
Live Bosnia alone. Maybe the next war will be in Netherland.
Oh no my family lives there
Come back. Don't be a traitor to your ancestral brothers and nation.
It better fkin not
I love the place
Mostar konjic,sarajevo
Just to name a few
The whole country is a national park
❤ to ALL Bosnians
From a tourist from uk
In 13 &23 & 24
😂😅
The truth needs to laws to protect it. Only lies need laws to support them.
Wat u saying?
@@gunthur696 I'm saying that laws against speech are totalitarian, and objectively unethical
Follow the money not propaganda and half truths presented here.
I followed the money and I ended up in Kremlin. That's where all of the pro-Russian and pro-Serb ork propaganda is usually coming from.
@@libertas5005
"I followed the money and I ended up in Kremlin. That's where all of the pro-Russian and pro-Serb ork propaganda is usually coming from."
I wonder where will you find yourself when you wake up.
Bosnia Muslim Army were jihadists beheading civilians ! This is never mentioned
Do you have any examples of the supposed "half truths" that were presented in the video?
@@jimkillerx Its too nuanced and boring for a sincere individual outsider. VPRO always has at least a tinge of western propaganda frame. Its hard to figure out if its done intentionally or they cannot do it better.
For comparison, check out "A town betrayed" full doc by Norwegian TV. That one runs deeper, is more honest and resembles, IMO, a real documentary about tragedy of civil war worth watching. You have it here on YT, its about 60 min in length.
Looks like that dutch guy know very well what was going on there!!! He is more on Serb side than on muslim side!!!
Are you braindead? The man has PTSD because of what the serbs did on his watch. You serbs are truly the embodiment of lies as a people.
@@truthseeker8273even dutch People are assholes same as serbs
What muslim side they not muslims. 😂 muslim not nationality like german , chinese French. It's bosniak side
what a great documentary. it seems bosnians gave in and choose to forgot the genocide and not unit and take up arms fire must be fought with fire its the only way an enemy respects you and war criminals amongst them in the same country shame. one who forgets history is doomed to repeat it.
Serbians don't want to live under Boaniak oppression, why don't Serbs have the right to decide for themselves???
Because you can't be awarded for genocide and ethnic cleansing.
Then move out to Serbia and leave us Bosnias the fuck alone.
they can go to serbia if they dont like
@@dedamraz607or Serbia may come to Bosnia... Anyway, it's all Serbs living there, but some of them had ancestors that sold their old faith for dinner.
Haha yeah man
Nazalost, ostali su u 15.stoljecu sa mozgom
Only solution to thi shitbox is let republika srpska leave bosna and hercegovina,bosniaks also made crime against serbian population there, not to mention croats,but only bosniaks side is shown as victims as man said in the video I as serb i am ashamed of horible crimes my countrymen did there but we are not the first who did it,look on youtube about ustashe in ww2,after that in early 90s by mujahedins,who even usa fought against,point is we cant learn to live together in peace and prosperety because of many factors one big is foreign politics of some country having trouble to coup with larger country and united,but at least learn to do bussines together for prosperity my own and muslim ones from bosnia
Stop spreading misinformation you stupid f*ck.
It’s not my business to pick sides! Let the locals duke it out
What’s it like to get owned by Jordan Peterson?
What do you mean?
We had war 90ties vs Yugoslav artilery ans all against us. Now if world only remove embargo for weapon so we could defens ourselves better and even doing attacks vs aggressors. We had embargo on weapon versus Serbia, Bosnian Serbs(traitors of their land and their Bosniak Fikret Abdic friend who also fought against Bosnia and Herzegowina with serba together even with Croats and Montenegrins all around Bosnias neighbours attacked that poor land and innoccent. Even Hundreds Russians, Romanians, Ukrainians, Greeks lost their lives in Bosnia and all of them fought for Serb side. and ofc world was versus Bosnia too leting serbs take all they have and wanted and we had embargo. So other sides had all weapons they wanted from YPA( ex Yugoslav ppls Army) vs us almost unarmed. Bosniaks lost many men only by fighting unarmed vs armed Serbs and we took weapons from them thats how Bosnia defended in first year of the war
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The West would love to prop up another war in Eastern Europe ahah
@@saccount-z3 Bosnia is Eastern Europe.
@@saccount-z3 Wikipedia says Southeastern Europe. Really not a point to having contention over such a trivial subject.
@@saccount-z3 To me this such a trivial matter and I can’t see how this would be Anglo propaganda. I must not be redpilled enough.
I get that you’re talking about your conception of what Europe is and not the established segmentation of the cardinal points of Europe. I was pointing to Wikipedia as I was under the impression that were talking under the argumentative frame of the latter.
@@saccount-z3 So it’s framed in that given sense to seclude Russia from Europe, as that would benifit Western interests?
@@saccount-z3 100% pravdu govoriw brat uvazhuha tebe...
that muslim would have taken his head of 30yrs ago.
how is this guy not afraid to talk with islamists? that's a real journalist.
Peace 😂😂 didn’t they peacefully kill enough
Kremlin propaganda.
Long live mother Russia and Putin our savior.
If Putin is supposed to be your savior you’re on your own, serf.