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You need to change the title, or I'm going to report you Civil Wars happen Within one single nation, ethnos. Nation in proper european sense, as Ethnos. Not in american sense as all people who live in a state. America, for example, is not a nation. It's a collection of races and ethnicities. There IS no "civil war" when 2 distinct nations are fighting oneanother. There is no "civil war" when you have Invasions from neighboring countries. What these wars were about - was Clearly stated in Hague Court, and that's why you are getting reported. Stop spreading misinformation.
The Balkans as a geopolitical term is an invention of the German geographer Johann Zeune from the 19th century. There is no Balkan peninsula, nor are there no Balkan languages. That's nonsense.
@@josipivanic6755going by your theory then nothing exists and nothing is real because at some point in time someone has invented it or named it as give it a name..
Gentlemen from king's institute he's more conflict guy then conflict researcher yada yada yada and downplaying everything what a source of disinformation ... Bloody shame😢😢
That’s is why first Yugoslavia was formed after WW1 Tito just ,,inherited” Yugoslavia and gave the autonomy to Kosovo Together we weren’t strong enough If we were we would be in the same country together Sad but true
for us Croats is better independence, because Commonwealth of Independent States, the Habsburg Monarchy, Austria-Hungary, Yugoslavia,we've had enough of that, we wanted to have our own country again after the principality and kingdom of Croatia from the 9th to the 12th century, so it's best for us to have our own country, and to cooperate economically with various countries and neighbors, and eventually be like this not in joint countries, but to the unions of states, such as the EU, NATO, so we were also strong in Austria-Hungary, but what does that mean for us when it is a joint state of many peoples, you are not alone in your own way, now we are independent and we are also strong in unions and alliances
You can't explain any war in the Balkans by talking about local players, ignoring external factor. Since crusade 1204 no war in the Balkans happened without foreign players predominately influencing it.
Unfortunately, Balkan is where east, west, north and south comes together to solve their problems. It has been so since dawn of time, long before the crusades. That 'peninsula' is cursed if you ask me. Every inch of that soil have been soaked in human blood and yet it thirsts for more.
@@senadsotonica people who had victims among their families or friends get traumatized indeed. Still as all this crusaders, Austrians, Otomans, Germans, Nazzis, Communists can't prevail in longer terms (Otomans did it but they are gone, insha'Allah) what is great, in peaceful breaks in the inter war periods , is that we are more or less free. Local pathetic gvts can't impose stiff state tyranny as they have in the west. 😊
Ja das ist er. Es gibt auf YT auch noch Videos von den kriegen zu finden der verschiedenen generälen, der verschiedenen Gruppen. Kamerateams haben viele begleitet. Ich kann mich an ein video mit Praljak erinnern, wo er mitten auf der Straße läuft mit einem Megafon und die Muslime anschreit, weil die in der Gegend rumgeschossen haben wo seine Mutter wohnt.
Right at the beginning he says; "Tudjman wanted greater Croatia" but nobody can explain with whom and with what weapons and how come not a single bullet was fired on the territory of the Republic of Serbia if that is the case
Krajina je srpska zemlja uvek bila i stit od osmablija gde su srbi evropu branili vekovima a vi ste vestacki sklepana nacija vecinom od izroda srba katolika i ne zasluzujete krajinu narocito zbog svih genocida i sluzenja svakom okupatoru i vraticete je kad tad i to da kamatom
So annoying the lack of basic information in the desription! Why not link to both other episodes? And why not numbering them with “1-2-3”?? Too complicated searching for the next episode in the series
This woman on 7:18 is probably crazy. Croatian checkerboard was publicly presented in Yugoslavia many times after World War II. And with the first white field, this checkerboard is also present in Belgrade on Republic Day, etc. Swastika in Germany? The Croatian anti-fascist partisans also have that checkerboard on the flag.
Serbs saw the checkerboard as a possible repeat of the Ustaše coming back, mainly since it was very similar to the NDH flag, they did NOT want it to repeat, you also gotta remember that the new constitution introduced by Croatia before it's independence also made Serbs into a national minority, not a second constituate people group, this mainly irked Serb cops in Knin who would have to don the checkered board patches on their uniforms, which they saw as an ustaše symbol.
The shahovnica/checkered flag was in use since medieval times. I hate that people only reference the 2nd world war for that flag design…but understand the significance.
@@jasminbilich6352 the WW2 one was the flag the Serbs talked about because it looked the closest to the ustashe flag, either way it was in my opinion stupid. I know the Croats had a checkerboard in the medieval period, and that one I prefer.
Sorry but this documentary is so full of flaws that I don't know where to start...whole problem is presented so simple and lazy. The truth is history of former Yugoslavia is far more complex.
That's true but it's so complex that you might need to make 30 hour long episodes, not 3 like this series, to go indepth into it. For a 3 hour miniseries I don't think they did a bad job. Also whatever the content on such a subject, there will always be those from former Yugoslavia who disagree.
I have and have had many friends involved in this war. One is Bosnian Muslim one is Bosnian Christian and fought and served in the army with German UN soldiers. I do not tell one I know the other as the wounds have not healed. My Grandfather fought the Japanese in gauda canal. Neither side took POWs. War changes people forever and hatred lasts a lifetime. We are on the brink of WWIII as we speak. All I can do is teach my children how to survive and to put family first. I'm 53 and know I should sacrifice myself for my children and granddaughter and future grandchildren. The new generation in western countries are not cut out for war and that is our greatest weakness. I was raised in a military family and need to kick my spoiled kids asses.
Serbian Republic must to be free, We don't want to live in U.S Islamic state Bosnia( Sarajevo) Syria and Irak like Jazidas, We are free people, Europeans and Christians...
25:15 Germany, independently of previous EU agreement, Germary recognized Slovenian as a state because "although they don't use the geman langage, they are of -german blood-" 1991.... I understand that all seats for the journey to the planet Mars are booked.
If the Germans declared Slovenes in Central Europe to be "German people" it does not mean that they are of "German blood". DNA genealogy establishes that the proto-Germans migrated from the Far East to the west and reached Europe with the inclusion of members of other peoples. Developments in Europe after this time point to the possibility that the proto-Germans may have been part of the "peoples from beyond the sea" about 3.2 millennia ago and also part of the remnants of the defeated army of the "peoples from beyond the sea" who retreated across the Mediterranean Sea to Europe . In Western Europe, the proto-Germans subjugated part of the northern proto-Celts and took on some of their characteristics. Later, in contact with the Romanized Celts, the place developed the current Germanic characteristics...
@@brankobelfranin8815 as quickly as Slovenia ?? but certainly not for the same racial considerations... just for the perspective of cheap holidays on their seashores perhaps.
@@hpdj6620Croatia received a lot of support from Germany in supplies of all kind. Appart from Weapons and ammonition, they got everything else because at that time they were many croats in Germany. Also back then Germany was still heavily involvolved in there reunion with the GDR.....
@@edpoletto8048 beautifully said ,we will always fight for our identity as Croatians and our country wherever in the world we are 🇭🇷🇭🇷🖤🖤💪💪🙏 pozdrav od Sydney ZDS
but you wanted greater Croatia, with the blessing of the "holly catholic church"...you attacked Bosnia and got beaten many times by Krajina Serbs in the last civil war, U started massacres with one in Sijekovac near Brod, then you expelled 300000 Serbs and killed more than 750000 in WW2 in camps and all around the place, under the blessing of catholic church clerks... you will never have the state, because you don't know how to lead, only to serve... even now, you are trying to steal the property of SPC in Croatia, using EU ustašas laws... but you are finished...
Мислиш ослобођену од Срба,јер сте их протерали или побили.Који је проценат Срба у Хрватској сад , а колики је био пре рата.Само реци истину,не измишљај.
Regarding the war in Bosnia-Herzegovina, it is important that we do not decontextualize crimes and events. There is no equivalency between individual instances of war crimes and systematic crimes against humanity. The "all sides did it" discourse is revisionism. There's a huge difference between crimes committed by individuals and crimes that are systemically planned. Bosnian Serb and Bosnian Croat separatist forces committed systemically planned war crimes, this is an undeniable FACT. The Army of the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina committed war crimes at times but did not commit any systemically planned crimes. For decades now, there has been a trend and tendancy to lump everything together, which is exactly what war criminals and their supporters have been doing for years, even decades, trying to relativize everything until it loses its true context, hence meaning and known butchers suddenly become innocent heroes.
Wars in former Yugoslavia in 1990s were not civil wars, but Serbian aggression. Cause for all of them was everlasting Serbian desire for Greater Serbia. It is still present.
Partizan forces in NDH ( NAZI Croatia) consisted 95 % of Serbs who was that way trying to avoid Croatian genocide ua-cam.com/video/412HAk-izmM/v-deo.htmlsi=mquA67xiJ2qxSLNh
Serbs which was exposed to Croatian NAZI genocide tried to escape and joined two different movements: - communistic, where belonged Dalmatian partisan brigade ( 95% filled by Serbs) - Royalists - democratic ( local commander in Dalmatia was Momcilo Djujic who after ww2 was forced to emigrate for USA and Canada).
❤ when foreigners are explaining war that they supported with wepons, false eccusetions and finaly uranium bombs. Thank you in the name of all people of ex Yugoslavia, surraunding countries ,Iran, Sudan, Avganistan, Libia...and Ucrain and Russia. Neocolonialism thriives
@@Greensanctuary-c4w for that you have to blame Germans. We were conquered and camps were their ideas. Why are you not blaming Austrians and dozens of other country's with camps in WW2. It wasn't like we could fight the German army
@@kings2147 that still doesn't preclude they attacked and we had to defend. My goal when defending is usually to expand given they opened a front they could not maintain. Tudjman was probably the same. He saw territory he could occupy given he had a trained army you Serbs made him with that attack
After Croat and Slovenian voted to have their own independent nation from Yugoslavia, all hell begin to break loose, Serbia controlled federal government started a campaign of terror on the local in order to prevent the break--up of its federation, punish those choose in separation and self-determination in destiny.
Serbs were most loyal to Hitler and they even created first Judenfrei city in Belgrade. Croats were fighting longest even longer than Germany becxause they were fighting for their country and Bosnian muslims were favorite of Hitler and Himmler. They had 2 waffen SS divisions but they were called 1st and 2nd Croatian becxause Bosnian muslims didn't existed there. They were just Croats or Serbs who were muslims because of turks
@michaelstark8720 dude ... what drugs you on? 😳.. Croatia literally had a fascist Ante Pavelic leading them. Exterminated one third of the Serbian population. Serbs had groups like Nedic that was allied with Hitler but he met his demise quite early. Serbs were the most antifascist anti German group since ww1. Germany lost a war because they talked Austria Hungary unto invading serbia to start ww1. Croats and Serbs are like Russians and Ukrainians. Same people divided by tribalism.
I reported you for misinformation but when i think again i should have report ed you for harassment and bullying. Becauae this what you publish is bullying of albanians croats and bosniaks
You forget most important things involved USA 🇺🇸 …To understand small things in the world 🌎 you need to start looking big from top to down Jugoslavija was one country but it was communist and in the nineties NATO west “democracy”win Cold War and destroyed communist country like Soviet Union (Russia) and Jugoslavija from inside and split them in small pieces and after step by step put them in NATO under full control…in Jugoslavija they support leaders who was against Jugoslavija and called them self democratic (national fanatics )… Tito was holding in prison Tudjman, Izetbegovic and other nationalist who was trying to destroy Yugoslavia many of them run away and sabotage Yugoslavia from outside like attacking Yugoslavia embassy staff example: check attack on Rolovic in Sweden…same guy who killed Rolovic after come on Tudjman side and fight against JNA army who tried to keep Yugoslavia strong and in one piece…Constitution of Jugoslavija was made to stay strong and together example: if Bosnia want to be independent and go from Yugoslavia must all 3 nation (muslim1,9 milion, orthodox 1,36 milion and Catholic 0,76 milion) who living in Bosnia to say yes on that but orthodox want to stay in Yugoslavia and rules is than no independent but Muslim continue with support from USA embassy… It is easy to see on example when Izetbegovic agree to stop the war and after meeting with USA ambassador Zimmermann day after he take decision back and continue war.. in Bosnia it was war also between Croatio and Muslims and also war between two group of Muslims…also you forget to say that Naser Oric from UN save zone where supposed to be no weapon they attack on Serbian village and do massacre…they need food in that time I understand but they attack and kill all in village also Izetbegovic know what will happened in Srebrenica and he take only commander Naser Oric out with helicopter 🚁 he had offer from Europe to move population from Srebrenica on save place but he didn’t want he had plan to provocate Serbs until they revenge and after USA come and fix how they agree with Izetbegovic long time ago..when Serbian army surrounded Srebrenica Muslims army and most man with weapon inside try to fight and come to Tuzla they didn’t want to surrender many of them they didn’t success to come to Tuzla many died in fight and one part success…on the end they put number of 8000 people that was all executed but it is not true that is all together in fight plus executed and plus some was in that number and they was alive out of country come later to vote… You have also old video before war how west news 📰 talking about Kosovo will be problem for Yugoslavia during Tito time all that is proof that Milosevic is not monster how they present him in west he just was stupid guy who play bad chess ♟ against stronger player USA… Albanian terorist UCK who attack on police and Serbs and try to take Kosovo from Serbia they get full support from USA in weapon, trening army in Albania and send to Kosovo,Air support bombing Serbian positions, media propaganda… after Albanian take Kosovo and Milosevic get removed from power, Albanian try to do same things in Macedonia 🇲🇰 they start war but NATO say No, No support in that… And you know why ?How to explained in to the world that Milosevic is removed and still Albanian attacking on another country world will understand they are not victims
In fact of 100 Croats, 95 are Serbs forced to convert into catholic religion. ( Croats are weak Serbs which wasn't enough strong to resist and converted)
This war is so complicated to understand for a foreigner who doesn't understand the balkan conflicts since the beginning. I'd like to know more aboht this conflict. Any books recommended to understand this?
How is it that mainly Serbians live in Croatian land????? The serbs were a constitutional part of the nation. By any law in Yugoslavia and later Croatia. This is pure nonsense.
When you are Srb and living in Croatia, you can not call that cantry Srbija You are Srb living in another country. How many Balkan people live all over the world is that mean that they can call that country Srbija,Croatia Slovenija....STUPD
This is pure Serbian propaganda. Since the 19th century, the idea of sacrilege was born in their minds. This idea is actually a syntagm for "one people, one religion and one country". They implement this sick idea even now and dream of a "greater Serbia" that would include territories up to Slovenia.
Many Serbs in Dalmatia joined the croatian forces, fought against the cetniks who attacked marine cities like Zadar, Sibenik, Dubrovnik... These Serbs just defended their home, and you know what, they are respected and live their since on.
Tudjman was not some kind of monster and he certainly didn't start this. Croatia protected the Bosnians from Ratko and Slobodan"s depravity. At least some of it.
as a Serb, I can say that this documentary is very objective and professional without labeling Serbs as murderers and the only ones guilty of the fratricidal war
serbs dont have to be labelled, the world remembers Vulovar, Škrabinje, Sarajevo not to mention Srebrenica and who was responsible for the atrocities. 🤮
То је то . Најобјективнији јер мање лажу . Тако ради пропаганда . Искажу неку општепознату и неоспорну чињеницу , па тиме прикрију лажи . Сребреницу су назвали геноцидом . Увек помињу 8000 , а тамо су једва скупили 6400 лешева , а скупљали их по целој БиХ . Шта је са стотинама чији су гробови тамо а живе у БиХ и иностранству ? Ни помена да је Вуковар био град са највећим % Срба у СРХ . Зашто је баш Вуковар срушен до темеља , а не неки други град ? Списак лажи је дугачак . И замисли НАЈОБЈЕКТИВНИ ЈЕ !
Supranational states in continental Europe always seem doomed to fail. Austria-Hungary only lasted 51 years, and Yugoslavia, the same as the USSR and Czechoslovakia, lasted less than 75 years each. Looks like the EU is nearing it's expiry date too.
What i like abt this docu is that it clearly stated the facts very equally. Its not like Serbian irredentism was the only cause as what Western medias have shown, but also other nationals like Croats, Slovenes, n Bosniaks had their own ambition and purposes to break Yugoslavia. How Crna Gora & FYROM werent involved heavily in this conflict still amazes me
It really surprises me how you Serbs still pretend to be as naive as French maids! First, Serbia with Slobodan Milošević invaded the Payment System of Yugoslavia and seriously damaged it. Second, Milošević influenced future wars already in 1989, beware of plural wars! Along the way, the Orthodox Church carried the bones of Emperor Lazar along the imaginary borders of Great Serbia... Thirdly, Milošević told the Slovenes to leave Yugoslavia, leave as quickly as possible, so that Milošević's goal was not to preserve Yugoslavia but to create Greater Serbia. Because Yugoslavia without Slovenia is not Yugoslavia... Fourth, Montenegro participated together with Serbia in all wars. So that Montenegro and Macedonia were not targeted by the Serbs because they are ALL ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS and Montenegro was in union with Serbia. There you go my naive liar...
It can state equally all it want but the facts are that one third of Croatia and whole Bosnia were burned to ground and tens of thousands of Croatian and Bosniak women raped while Serbia didn’t get a single bullet nor Serbian woman experinced nothing like that. Not to mention the massacres like in Srebrenica, Vukovar and Škabrnja. Ofcourse we had our own ambition when Serbs wanted to seize all power and rule over us and it’s like some tribe from middle east wants to rule over you. Wouldn’t you do the same? Actually Crna Gora was involved. They attacked Dubrovnik.
@@antepilic7422 :Рече бечки коњушар кога су срби ослободи 1914 после 1000 година чишћења говна из бечких штала и да ли вам тад републику у тим границама да бих сад ти нама овде држао предавања како су вас срби искористили е мој смрдо мали да није било срба ти бих и сад вадио говна из бечких штала и био једно велико ништа.
Serbian nationalism caused many decades of pain, irreversible damage. Sad part is that Serbian government still to this day dreams of those old ideologies, no matter who pays the price.
@nepopois9553 your comment is so irrelevant. I didn't say that Serbs are the only bad thing in the world. I saod Serbian nationalism and the government that is running Serbia. I know a lot of Serbs that are not in agreement with what Serbia did and still does. You shouldn't comment if your comments are this dumb 🙄
@@Iliryandescendant7 Dude ,nationalists was Croats and Muslims from Bosnia they wanted sovereign state not Serbs, Serbian answer on that was forming 2 Serbian state on all land where Serbs live.
That was in 1928 and have nothing with SFRJ break up , Serbs are let you join the kingdom after they free your land. You have to thank Serbian king alexander for giving you that oportunity to join a kingdom.
@@psikiatriekimi U "Pismu Srbima, S.Pribićević 1933.: Mi Srbi u Hrvatskoj smo uvijek bili sredstvo Beograda u rukama protiv Zagreba. Prvo nas napujdaju kao bijesne pse na Hrvatsku a onda nas šutnu kao jako bolesnog psa koji nikome ne treba. Srbi treba da uvide i da shvate, da oni nemaju nikakvog, ni moralnog, ni političkog, ni nacionalnog, ni istorijskog prava, da vladaju nad Hrvatima i da ih silom (diktatura) drže u zajednici sa sobom. Historijsko je iskustvo pokazalo da će se prije Velebit srušiti u more i isušiti Dunav, Sava i Drava, nego što će se hrvatski narod odreći svog imena i svoje narodne individualnosti.
@@psikiatriekimi This is where much of the hate started !!! You don t kill other leaders when they come for talks, you are responsible for their security and if you can not offer that, your word and everything else further means nothing... Maybe on some islands in Papua New Guinea this is still the case( excuses to people from png ;) )
War is dangerous game so many innocent people killed, so sad and heartbreaking ,the genocide of Serbenicia makes me feel sick for our muslim brothers that weee ruthlessly killed 💔
Maybe the west should not have backed one form of nationalism over another. They had a peace deal before the wars but the west got into the Bosniaks ears and said don't sign it .
🤣 on 26:55, that lady... She doesnt know what she is talking about or she recieved a pay check, but she said 'serbs nationalist slaughtered muslims and croats'? Why, where, when? And all that after she said at the begining that croats were on the Nazi side 😂
6:25 Serbs have always been a minority in Croatia. Tudman did not invent that. In 1991, there were 12% of Serbs in Croatia. This allegation that Serbs have had their fundamental rights reduced is the biggest fabrication in this film. What rights and by what exact decision?
That is not true at all! Croatia has become for the very first time as a souverain nation in 1995, prior to that (Except during the poppet nazi state during the WW2) Dubrovnik, Dalmatia and Slavonia, (Western Srem ) were predominantly Serbian residents in did, During the Austria Hungarian invasion statistic are 2,5 million Serbs and 700,000 Croats recorded. The number of Serbs detreated during the WW2 under the Fascist regime with Genocide, mass murder in concentration camps, even the children camps and also under communists after the WW2. The only fact is that Serbian people were constitutional people in Croatia all the time and then overnight they become ethnic minority under the new Ushashi regime in 90' !
Tito kept ustashe and Cetniks in check ..that’s why Yugoslavia was the best during his time ..no one was above one another ..everything equal and the same no matter ethnicity or religion .the way it should be
@@truthseeker8273there were more people in bosnia 1995 then now 2023 why? Bad corrupted politicians who frighten and drive the youth from this country with a new war and separation sad truth.
It was not accurately described at all. If you just take their word for it, it may seem all neatly wrapped up, but this a terrible telling of the conflict. Its literally made for an unaware western world, who just want the bullet points presented in an easily digestible form. This was a terrible job.
There were no mujaheedines from Albania or Kosova in Bosnia war !! They fought they own war in Kosova and has nothing to do with mujaheedins or religion at all !! In Croatia though there were many …
Religion is no and never will be a point between real Croats and real Albanian brothers, whether christian or muslim . Too many wars we fought side by side
Yugoslavia existed for the better part of the 20th century, from the 1910s to the early 1990s in notable stability, barring minor incidents that the West blows out of proportion to substantiate its premise of Balkanization - a neologism (that has fairly little substantiation in history and ethnography) they've invented for the mere purpose of justifying a number of aggressive and detrimental attempts of subverting the resurging Balkanite states of Serbia, Greece, and Bulgaria, as a retaliation for the three's role in the defeat of the Ottoman Empire (the West's long-lasting ally), and the liberation of the whole peninsula of the aforementioned's rule. Serbia has especially earned the enmity of the Western powers as a result of her endeavors in WW1 which have shattered the Old World order and initiated a subsequent, yet steep withering of the traditional global, colonial powers of the world, and Yugoslavia has established its foreign policy on emancipating the Third World under its leadership and preventing the Western powers from re-establishing themselves as the governing body of its former colonies in Africa, Asia, and the Near East, thus effectively cutting them off from their vital wells of natural resources, thus relegating the West ever-further to the status of mere vassals of the USA. In both cases of Yugoslavia's destruction, meaning in 1941, and 1992, it was destroyed by the hostile foreign policies of great powers, so this "plunged into chaos after Tito's death" premise is not true, and is shameful dehumanizing propaganda.
Stvar je u tome sto Srbi nisu htjeli živjeti u Nezavisnog državi Hrvatskoj a to nije njima bilo jasno i nisu htjeli otići ali su bili primorani kao i Palestinci
Horrible, at least 10 mistakes in the first 8 minutes, couldn't watch anymore. there is more Serbian propaganda here than in most Serbian documentaries. In fact I would suggest to anyone to watch any Serbian documentary about the war (made by an independent TV house) to get more accurate and balanced view. It is allways the same in these foreign documentaries about the conflict, they always pick one side, sometimes is the Croatian side sometimes Serbian, just never the side of the truth, which is always in the middle.
America has its hand everywhere. Superpowers are typically not popular for the chaos they cause Roman's were disliked as well. Maybe America should go the way of Switzerland?
I know this war was a great tragic moment for Americans as they could not get parts for their Yugo. To take the use of an Americans car is an unthinkable crime.
Serbian Republic must to be free, We don't want to live in U.S Islamic state Bosnia( Sarajevo) Syria and Irak like Jazidas, We are free people, Europeans and Christians...
The Albanians in Serbia got independence, with the help of NATO........ so why can't NATO help Serbs in Croatia, Kosovo, Bosnia and Herzegovina get Independence
Kingdom of Yugoslavia started to be balkanized under the pressure of Nazzi Nazzi Germany 1939 - Hrvatska banovina ; under Nazzi occupation 1941 - 1945; under the communist regime further on with creation of Republics and finaly deconstructed by US / EU stance 1991. None of mentioned perpetrators wanted indenpendent country while they were advancing over the Balkans. Only satelite countries were and still are tolerated.
lot of mistakes: there were too few serbs in bosnia to be able to commit so many atrocities on their own, they were supplied and helped by serbia all the time, as were the croatians by croatia, but it is the west's fault that they allowed the aggressors (genocide serbs) to occupy half of the country
Serbs are/ were living there and defended themself. Those presidents of ex Yu republikcs wanted their own little banana countries to rool like Tito? Milo im Crna Gora is the last one.
It's a shame that you reduce the Bosniaks to a religious group and you keep calling them muslims. What barbaric channel is this? It's obvious that this German based film company has biases towards the Croats. In a weir way this reflects the current changes in Bosnian politics. The Bosniaks can forget their dream of having a normal democratic country.
Tako su se tada zvali Muslimani,zadnji rat u BiH bio je samo jedan u nizu oslobodilačkih protiv turskih kvinslinga Muslimana za mnoge nemuslimane,to treba tako gledat kao i da je BiH ostatak Otomanskog Carstva i Muslimani se smatraju nasljednicima turaka i jedinim gospodarima BiH
U ratu ste uzeli staro regionalno ime za stanovnike Bosne Bošnjaci kao svoje nacionalno, Muslimani ste bili i ostali za sve druge,potomci turskih kvinslinga vjekovno dušmani svima okolo
@@prcbukvu2293 Ne tako davno, danas takozvana Evropa ( Europa, tj ARAPIJA ) je bila islamska civilizacija, dio carstva Tartarije. Ali cak i u lažnoj istoriji koju su ti dali šejtansi, šejtnaksi slobodni zidari, Indijanci, gog i magog, slobodni zidari koji su zauzeli svijet, Bošnjaci su stanovnici Bosne, prema tome u Bosni nisu stanovali "Srbi" i "Hrvati". Srb jednostavno znaci "rob, sluga, kmet" pretvoreni sa tim imenom u "naciju" iskljucivo od onih koji su nasilno pretvoreni u ortodoksne sljedbenike lažnog Isusa cezarovog mesiju, a Kroat na stranim jezicima znaci "Krstaš", zato jesu svi katolici. U svakom slucaju, ako ce pravoslavci biti "Srbi", potomci rimskih kvislinga, i katolici ce biti "Hrvati" potomci papalskih kvislinga, tako ce i muslimani biti Bošnjaci gdje je Bošnjak iskljucivo musliman, a možeš samo da rikneš od muke kada te toliko muči, a kretenu ne vidis da smo svi okupirani.
You are made terrible big mistake of the title of this video. War in Bosnia was clearly Aggression by Serbia. At time when Bosnia and Herzegovina was accepted in the UN as recognized state it was 1992.04.15.
Ich finde und wünsche irgendwann mal die völkerstatten Balken Länder einigen sich unter Serbische Fahnen. Dann die sind bestens aufgehoben. Danke für ihren Verständnis.
Not ONE CROATIAN SOLDIER WENT ONTO SERBIAN SOIL AND NOT ONE CROATIAN SOLDIER FIRED A GUNSHOT IN SERBIA: NO SERBIAN PERSON WAS HARMED BY ANY ONE CROATIAN SOLDIER: ●● HOW THEN DO YOU GET A GREATER CROATIA :
Finding the truth requires critical thinking. In regards to Jugoslavia you have to ask yourself which side loved Jugoslavia and which side hated Jugoslavia. The one that hated it is the one who started it to break it up and create new nations....I will give you a clue Serbs loved Jugoslavia as they were widely spread throughout and were the most damaged in its disintegration. Today's war in Russia is a consequence of the Western double standards.
The critical thing that outsiders watching this documentary do not understand is that by the serbs wanting to dominate others is what destroyed the concept of yugoslavia. In general, other nations liked it in yugoslavia when it was federal and all nations were on equal footing, but that would all change with milošević. You wouldnt want to be married to a woman that you once loved but now shes coming at you with a knife, would you?
This documentary is not even close to what happened to Ex Jugoslavia . Next time, do some research, and you will see who wanted the war and who did not.
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You need to change the title, or I'm going to report you
Civil Wars happen Within one single nation, ethnos. Nation in proper european sense, as Ethnos. Not in american sense as all people who live in a state.
America, for example, is not a nation. It's a collection of races and ethnicities.
There IS no "civil war" when 2 distinct nations are fighting oneanother.
There is no "civil war" when you have Invasions from neighboring countries.
What these wars were about - was Clearly stated in Hague Court, and that's why you are getting reported.
Stop spreading misinformation.
The Balkans as a geopolitical term is an invention of the German geographer Johann Zeune from the 19th century. There is no Balkan peninsula, nor are there no Balkan languages. That's nonsense.
Mujahideen are the only reason for the conflict between Croats and Muslims in BiH. If it wasn't for them, this conflict would never have happened.
@@josipivanic6755going by your theory then nothing exists and nothing is real because at some point in time someone has invented it or named it as give it a name..
Gentlemen from king's institute he's more conflict guy then conflict researcher yada yada yada and downplaying everything what a source of disinformation ... Bloody shame😢😢
Many things in this documentary is very, very simplificed!
"International standing" ??? Have you forgotten gavrilo princip in Sarjevo 1914?
I am on minute 6 and already there has been too many factual inaccuracies that it is painful to continue.
YES!!!!!!!
It's western liberal hypocrite Propaganda.....
These people write history into law... How dare you question them!;(
you must be serb lol
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Together we are strong ,separated we are nothing.30 years later that proved right.
That’s is why first Yugoslavia was formed after WW1
Tito just ,,inherited” Yugoslavia and gave the autonomy to Kosovo
Together we weren’t strong enough
If we were we would be in the same country together
Sad but true
Yugoslavia was a bad idea for serbs
for us Croats is better independence, because Commonwealth of Independent States, the Habsburg Monarchy, Austria-Hungary, Yugoslavia,we've had enough of that, we wanted to have our own country again after the principality and kingdom of Croatia from the 9th to the 12th century, so it's best for us to have our own country, and to cooperate economically with various countries and neighbors, and eventually be like this not in joint countries, but to the unions of states, such as the EU, NATO, so we were also strong in Austria-Hungary, but what does that mean for us when it is a joint state of many peoples, you are not alone in your own way, now we are independent and we are also strong in unions and alliances
Now banana republics let the west use you
I beg to differ. Croatia is doing just fine without you thugs, you without Croats are lost.
I survived the Bosnian war, I was actually a kid on a bus same as this woman at 36:00! 🥺
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Shshsh...The grown ups are having a conversation. Get back to your troll cave.
@@danielmalone4446 ajde ti na traktor 😂😂😂
@@danielmalone4446 vidi se da sre ko Rusi! Samo znate silovat i krasti
Niste ko human beings
What is your name and last name? anyone Cas says, "This is what you saying...
...why are you hiding...
@@danielmalone4446you cant just joke about that
Basic mistake everyone makes is an assumption that 1 nation can be better than other. People are same everywhere.
Not in naci croatia
You can't explain any war in the Balkans by talking about local players, ignoring external factor.
Since crusade 1204 no war in the Balkans happened without foreign players predominately influencing it.
Unfortunately, Balkan is where east, west, north and south comes together to solve their problems. It has been so since dawn of time, long before the crusades. That 'peninsula' is cursed if you ask me. Every inch of that soil have been soaked in human blood and yet it thirsts for more.
@@senadsotonica people who had victims among their families or friends get traumatized indeed.
Still as all this crusaders, Austrians, Otomans, Germans, Nazzis, Communists can't prevail in longer terms (Otomans did it but they are gone, insha'Allah) what is great, in peaceful breaks in the inter war periods , is that we are more or less free. Local pathetic gvts can't impose stiff state tyranny as they have in the west. 😊
47:05 Is it Slobodan Praljak, that Croatian general who poisoned himself during his trail in The Hague?
Ja das ist er.
Es gibt auf YT auch noch Videos von den kriegen zu finden der verschiedenen generälen, der verschiedenen Gruppen.
Kamerateams haben viele begleitet.
Ich kann mich an ein video mit Praljak erinnern, wo er mitten auf der Straße läuft mit einem Megafon und die Muslime anschreit, weil die in der Gegend rumgeschossen haben wo seine Mutter wohnt.
Right at the beginning he says; "Tudjman wanted greater Croatia" but nobody can explain with whom and with what weapons and how come not a single bullet was fired on the territory of the Republic of Serbia if that is the case
Germany supplied Heavy Weapons to Croatia........ Probably hoping the "band" would reunite
Russia did it too@@a.s.etaboo8769
Krajina je srpska zemlja uvek bila i stit od osmablija gde su srbi evropu branili vekovima a vi ste vestacki sklepana nacija vecinom od izroda srba katolika i ne zasluzujete krajinu narocito zbog svih genocida i sluzenja svakom okupatoru i vraticete je kad tad i to da kamatom
@@a.s.etaboo8769 Like Bismarck sayed: the whole Balkan isn't worth the bones of one pommeranian grenadier
I think they meant he wanted to annex parts of Bosnia & Herzegovina
So annoying the lack of basic information in the desription! Why not link to both other episodes? And why not numbering them with “1-2-3”?? Too complicated searching for the next episode in the series
This woman on 7:18 is probably crazy. Croatian checkerboard was publicly presented in Yugoslavia many times after World War II. And with the first white field, this checkerboard is also present in Belgrade on Republic Day, etc. Swastika in Germany? The Croatian anti-fascist partisans also have that checkerboard on the flag.
Serbs saw the checkerboard as a possible repeat of the Ustaše coming back, mainly since it was very similar to the NDH flag, they did NOT want it to repeat, you also gotta remember that the new constitution introduced by Croatia before it's independence also made Serbs into a national minority, not a second constituate people group, this mainly irked Serb cops in Knin who would have to don the checkered board patches on their uniforms, which they saw as an ustaše symbol.
@@Lazar-ox5bd
Tanko opravdanje,nakon izjave Patrijarha Pavla da neće priznati granice AVnoj-a....
The shahovnica/checkered flag was in use since medieval times. I hate that people only reference the 2nd world war for that flag design…but understand the significance.
@@jasminbilich6352 the WW2 one was the flag the Serbs talked about because it looked the closest to the ustashe flag, either way it was in my opinion stupid. I know the Croats had a checkerboard in the medieval period, and that one I prefer.
Sorry but this documentary is so full of flaws that I don't know where to start...whole problem is presented so simple and lazy. The truth is history of former Yugoslavia is far more complex.
Ne razumijemo mi Sami sebe kume moj
Kako onda da nas Englez shvati 😂😂😂
That's true but it's so complex that you might need to make 30 hour long episodes, not 3 like this series, to go indepth into it. For a 3 hour miniseries I don't think they did a bad job. Also whatever the content on such a subject, there will always be those from former Yugoslavia who disagree.
Couldn't agree with you more if I tried!
@@speedygonzales2052😂
As soon as I heard the voiceover and the music I switched it off.
in Bosnia now for the 2nd time! 2020/21 and now 2023. I love this place!! 🇧🇦🇧🇦🇧🇦
nice place to visit.....shitthole to live
BOSNIA AND HERCEGOVINA LOVES YOU TOO❤
I have and have had many friends involved in this war. One is Bosnian Muslim one is Bosnian Christian and fought and served in the army with German UN soldiers. I do not tell one I know the other as the wounds have not healed. My Grandfather fought the Japanese in gauda canal. Neither side took POWs. War changes people forever and hatred lasts a lifetime. We are on the brink of WWIII as we speak. All I can do is teach my children how to survive and to put family first. I'm 53 and know I should sacrifice myself for my children and granddaughter and future grandchildren. The new generation in western countries are not cut out for war and that is our greatest weakness. I was raised in a military family and need to kick my spoiled kids asses.
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Serbian Republic must to be free, We don't want to live in U.S Islamic state Bosnia( Sarajevo) Syria and Irak like Jazidas, We are free people, Europeans and Christians...
If you believe that soft children are the biggest problem you are hopelessly lost yourself.
25:15 Germany, independently of previous EU agreement, Germary recognized Slovenian as a state because "although they don't use the geman langage, they are of -german blood-" 1991.... I understand that all seats for the journey to the planet Mars are booked.
😅the Germans, like often in this part of Europe .
Devaid and rule. .Fight against Russia like on Ukraina just now .
If the Germans declared Slovenes in Central Europe to be "German people" it does not mean that they are of "German blood". DNA genealogy establishes that the proto-Germans migrated from the Far East to the west and reached Europe with the inclusion of members of other peoples. Developments in Europe after this time point to the possibility that the proto-Germans may have been part of the "peoples from beyond the sea" about 3.2 millennia ago and also part of the remnants of the defeated army of the "peoples from beyond the sea" who retreated across the Mediterranean Sea to Europe . In Western Europe, the proto-Germans subjugated part of the northern proto-Celts and took on some of their characteristics. Later, in contact with the Romanized Celts, the place developed the current Germanic characteristics...
They also recognized Croatia
@@brankobelfranin8815 as quickly as Slovenia ?? but certainly not for the same racial considerations... just for the perspective of cheap holidays on their seashores perhaps.
@@hpdj6620Croatia received a lot of support from Germany in supplies of all kind. Appart from Weapons and ammonition, they got everything else because at that time they were many croats in Germany. Also back then Germany was still heavily involvolved in there reunion with the GDR.....
We never wanted a Greater Croatia... just a free Croatia..free from Serbian Terror..!!
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Croatia will also be Croatia. They have endured throughout the centuries and will not denounce their place in the world.
@@edpoletto8048 beautifully said ,we will always fight for our identity as Croatians and our country wherever in the world we are 🇭🇷🇭🇷🖤🖤💪💪🙏 pozdrav od Sydney ZDS
but you wanted greater Croatia, with the blessing of the "holly catholic church"...you attacked Bosnia and got beaten many times by Krajina Serbs in the last civil war, U started massacres with one in Sijekovac near Brod, then you expelled 300000 Serbs and killed more than 750000 in WW2 in camps and all around the place, under the blessing of catholic church clerks... you will never have the state, because you don't know how to lead, only to serve... even now, you are trying to steal the property of SPC in Croatia, using EU ustašas laws... but you are finished...
Мислиш ослобођену од Срба,јер сте их протерали или побили.Који је проценат Срба у Хрватској сад , а колики је био пре рата.Само реци истину,не измишљај.
Well presented, educational and factual documentary, I found this particurarly insightful.
Hahaha you'd believe anything!
i dont see any civil war took place, its the Serbs who killed Croats and Bosnian muslims mercilessly. Very unfortunate and blood sucking events.
Тврдиш да ви нисте убијали Србе?
Fantastic documentary. I lived through all of it and still did not understand all of the underpinnings of the war. I dont wish it on anybody
What part of that country are you from?
Regarding the war in Bosnia-Herzegovina, it is important that we do not decontextualize crimes and events. There is no equivalency between individual instances of war crimes and systematic crimes against humanity. The "all sides did it" discourse is revisionism. There's a huge difference between crimes committed by individuals and crimes that are systemically planned.
Bosnian Serb and Bosnian Croat separatist forces committed systemically planned war crimes, this is an undeniable FACT. The Army of the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina committed war crimes at times but did not commit any systemically planned crimes. For decades now, there has been a trend and tendancy to lump everything together, which is exactly what war criminals and their supporters have been doing for years, even decades, trying to relativize everything until it loses its true context, hence meaning and known butchers suddenly become innocent heroes.
Very well said💯
What did Mujahideens did and what did they do in Bosnia my home country ?
Wars in former Yugoslavia in 1990s were not civil wars, but Serbian aggression. Cause for all of them was everlasting Serbian desire for Greater Serbia. It is still present.
lupas gluposti!
A modern day Civil War, this time in Europe ❤ Historical events Raw and Brutal revisited September 14 2024 ❤❤
The Croats fight against Nazis too,Dalmatian partisan brigade was huge.
Partizan forces in NDH ( NAZI Croatia) consisted 95 % of Serbs who was that way trying to avoid Croatian genocide
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Those were Serbs
Serbs which was exposed to Croatian NAZI genocide tried to escape and joined two different movements:
- communistic, where belonged Dalmatian partisan brigade ( 95% filled by Serbs)
- Royalists - democratic ( local commander in Dalmatia was Momcilo Djujic who after ww2 was forced to emigrate for USA and Canada).
❤ when foreigners are explaining war that they supported with wepons, false eccusetions and finaly uranium bombs. Thank you in the name of all people of ex Yugoslavia, surraunding countries ,Iran, Sudan, Avganistan, Libia...and Ucrain and Russia. Neocolonialism thriives
Ukraine and Russia ? Lol, you lunatic.
Simply justifying both the actions and inactions as ever!
to make it short Serbs tried to steal half of Croatia and we had a war to not let them do that.
И ја бих да скратим, хтели сте да да нам урадите исто оно што сте за време другог светског рата.Е, зато је почео рат.
No, Serbs did not want to end up in second Jasenovac.
Nonsense, what about Tudjman's dreams for Croatia.
@@Greensanctuary-c4w for that you have to blame Germans. We were conquered and camps were their ideas. Why are you not blaming Austrians and dozens of other country's with camps in WW2. It wasn't like we could fight the German army
@@kings2147 that still doesn't preclude they attacked and we had to defend. My goal when defending is usually to expand given they opened a front they could not maintain. Tudjman was probably the same. He saw territory he could occupy given he had a trained army you Serbs made him with that attack
After Croat and Slovenian voted to have their own independent nation from Yugoslavia, all hell begin to break loose, Serbia controlled federal government started a campaign of terror on the local in order to prevent the break--up of its federation, punish those choose in separation and self-determination in destiny.
Pozdravi svij vam !!.
This is probably the most nonfactual video on the topic I have ever seen
What number in the series is this???
very cool. this is an amazing series.
Its completly fake.
Don't have nothing cool in this.I am from Bosna i Hercegovina
@@ramsaysnow9196why is it fake?
this looks like only mostar and sarajevo were at war, and that cannibal serbs was set to eat alive all the sarajlije... this is such a s.h.i.t
I tend to cheer for the side that wasnt allied with Hitler
Serbs were most loyal to Hitler and they even created first Judenfrei city in Belgrade. Croats were fighting longest even longer than Germany becxause they were fighting for their country and Bosnian muslims were favorite of Hitler and Himmler. They had 2 waffen SS divisions but they were called 1st and 2nd Croatian becxause Bosnian muslims didn't existed there. They were just Croats or Serbs who were muslims because of turks
@michaelstark8720 dude ... what drugs you on? 😳.. Croatia literally had a fascist Ante Pavelic leading them. Exterminated one third of the Serbian population. Serbs had groups like Nedic that was allied with Hitler but he met his demise quite early. Serbs were the most antifascist anti German group since ww1. Germany lost a war because they talked Austria Hungary unto invading serbia to start ww1. Croats and Serbs are like Russians and Ukrainians. Same people divided by tribalism.
@@michaelstark8720Ала се ти налупета за све паре.Имаш ли какве доказе за то?
I reported you for misinformation but when i think again i should have report ed you for harassment and bullying. Becauae this what you publish is bullying of albanians croats and bosniaks
You forget most important things involved USA 🇺🇸 …To understand small things in the world 🌎 you need to start looking big from top to down Jugoslavija was one country but it was communist and in the nineties NATO west “democracy”win Cold War and destroyed communist country like Soviet Union (Russia) and Jugoslavija from inside and split them in small pieces and after step by step put them in NATO under full control…in Jugoslavija they support leaders who was against Jugoslavija and called them self democratic (national fanatics )… Tito was holding in prison Tudjman, Izetbegovic and other nationalist who was trying to destroy Yugoslavia many of them run away and sabotage Yugoslavia from outside like attacking Yugoslavia embassy staff example: check attack on Rolovic in Sweden…same guy who killed Rolovic after come on Tudjman side and fight against JNA army who tried to keep Yugoslavia strong and in one piece…Constitution of Jugoslavija was made to stay strong and together example: if Bosnia want to be independent and go from Yugoslavia must all 3 nation (muslim1,9 milion, orthodox 1,36 milion and Catholic 0,76 milion) who living in Bosnia to say yes on that but orthodox want to stay in Yugoslavia and rules is than no independent but Muslim continue with support from USA embassy… It is easy to see on example when Izetbegovic agree to stop the war and after meeting with USA ambassador Zimmermann day after he take decision back and continue war.. in Bosnia it was war also between Croatio and Muslims and also war between two group of Muslims…also you forget to say that Naser Oric from UN save zone where supposed to be no weapon they attack on Serbian village and do massacre…they need food in that time I understand but they attack and kill all in village also Izetbegovic know what will happened in Srebrenica and he take only commander Naser Oric out with helicopter 🚁 he had offer from Europe to move population from Srebrenica on save place but he didn’t want he had plan to provocate Serbs until they revenge and after USA come and fix how they agree with Izetbegovic long time ago..when Serbian army surrounded Srebrenica Muslims army and most man with weapon inside try to fight and come to Tuzla they didn’t want to surrender many of them they didn’t success to come to Tuzla many died in fight and one part success…on the end they put number of 8000 people that was all executed but it is not true that is all together in fight plus executed and plus some was in that number and they was alive out of country come later to vote…
You have also old video before war how west news 📰 talking about Kosovo will be problem for Yugoslavia during Tito time all that is proof that Milosevic is not monster how they present him in west he just was stupid guy who play bad chess ♟ against stronger player USA… Albanian terorist UCK who attack on police and Serbs and try to take Kosovo from Serbia they get full support from USA in weapon, trening army in Albania and send to Kosovo,Air support bombing Serbian positions, media propaganda… after Albanian take Kosovo and Milosevic get removed from power, Albanian try to do same things in Macedonia 🇲🇰 they start war but NATO say No, No support in that… And you know why ?How to explained in to the world that Milosevic is removed and still Albanian attacking on another country world will understand they are not victims
Потпуно си у праву.
And the proof is in Pristina the Bill Klinton's sculpture.
this crazy to state all Orthodox Christians outside of Serbia are "Serbian" when they have no connection to Serbia besides religion.
They are Serbs, ustashe can cry
Are the Croats in Serbia (about 70 000) actually catholic Serbs?
@@milanstanisic1939 precisely, just like Muslim Serbs in Sanzdak are Serbs..
Yes, Serbs are crazy, majority are anyway.
In fact of 100 Croats, 95 are Serbs forced to convert into catholic religion.
( Croats are weak Serbs which wasn't enough strong to resist and converted)
Sad … War Kills!
This war is so complicated to understand for a foreigner who doesn't understand the balkan conflicts since the beginning. I'd like to know more aboht this conflict. Any books recommended to understand this?
How is it that mainly Serbians live in Croatian land????? The serbs were a constitutional part of the nation. By any law in Yugoslavia and later Croatia. This is pure nonsense.
When you are Srb and living in Croatia, you can not call that cantry Srbija
You are Srb living in another country. How many Balkan people live all over the world
is that mean that they can call that country Srbija,Croatia Slovenija....STUPD
Srbijen people move in Dalmacija (Croatia) because of the ocean
so now they claim it is srbijen...joke
This is pure Serbian propaganda. Since the 19th century, the idea of sacrilege was born in their minds. This idea is actually a syntagm for "one people, one religion and one country". They implement this sick idea even now and dream of a "greater Serbia" that would include territories up to Slovenia.
Many Serbs in Dalmatia joined the croatian forces, fought against the cetniks who attacked marine cities like Zadar, Sibenik, Dubrovnik...
These Serbs just defended their home, and you know what, they are respected and live their since on.
Tudjman was not some kind of monster and he certainly didn't start this. Croatia protected the Bosnians from Ratko and Slobodan"s depravity. At least some of it.
how yes no, who took you under protection on Vlasic in 1994, when you ran away from Mudzahedin axes?....you fckin ignorants
as a Serb, I can say that this documentary is very objective and professional without labeling Serbs as murderers and the only ones guilty of the fratricidal war
serbs dont have to be labelled, the world remembers Vulovar, Škrabinje, Sarajevo not to mention Srebrenica and who was responsible for the atrocities. 🤮
@@SteveRadich1928 Јебало те Шкрабиње и Драгутин Горјановић Кранбергер Тро
То је то . Најобјективнији јер мање лажу . Тако ради пропаганда . Искажу неку општепознату и неоспорну чињеницу , па тиме прикрију лажи .
Сребреницу су назвали геноцидом . Увек помињу 8000 , а тамо су једва скупили 6400 лешева , а скупљали их по целој БиХ . Шта је са стотинама чији су гробови тамо а живе у БиХ и иностранству ?
Ни помена да је Вуковар био град са највећим % Срба у СРХ . Зашто је баш Вуковар срушен до темеља , а не неки други град ?
Списак лажи је дугачак .
И замисли НАЈОБЈЕКТИВНИ ЈЕ !
Supranational states in continental Europe always seem doomed to fail. Austria-Hungary only lasted 51 years, and Yugoslavia, the same as the USSR and Czechoslovakia, lasted less than 75 years each. Looks like the EU is nearing it's expiry date too.
Yet USA is solid as a rock. Hm🤔
Supranational?
Comparing EU to, say, USSR or Yugoslavia is ridiculous. It's not a state. It's closer to a sports federation or the United Nations than a state.
EU-goslavia lol
Such a flawed comment, it's quite beautiful.
Actually this video is quite more factual than many I’ve seen on UA-cam
Easy to undestand WHO made this documentary. 😮😮
Veliko sranje laž do laži.
What i like abt this docu is that it clearly stated the facts very equally. Its not like Serbian irredentism was the only cause as what Western medias have shown, but also other nationals like Croats, Slovenes, n Bosniaks had their own ambition and purposes to break Yugoslavia. How Crna Gora & FYROM werent involved heavily in this conflict still amazes me
It really surprises me how you Serbs still pretend to be as naive as French maids!
First, Serbia with Slobodan Milošević invaded the Payment System of Yugoslavia and seriously damaged it.
Second, Milošević influenced future wars already in 1989, beware of plural wars! Along the way, the Orthodox Church carried the bones of Emperor Lazar along the imaginary borders of Great Serbia...
Thirdly, Milošević told the Slovenes to leave Yugoslavia, leave as quickly as possible, so that Milošević's goal was not to preserve Yugoslavia but to create Greater Serbia. Because Yugoslavia without Slovenia is not Yugoslavia...
Fourth, Montenegro participated together with Serbia in all wars. So that Montenegro and Macedonia were not targeted by the Serbs because they are ALL ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS and Montenegro was in union with Serbia.
There you go my naive liar...
Mm probably cos there there were, as in Slovenia, only a few Serbs...
It can state equally all it want but the facts are that one third of Croatia and whole Bosnia were burned to ground and tens of thousands of Croatian and Bosniak women raped while Serbia didn’t get a single bullet nor Serbian woman experinced nothing like that. Not to mention the massacres like in Srebrenica, Vukovar and Škabrnja. Ofcourse we had our own ambition when Serbs wanted to seize all power and rule over us and it’s like some tribe from middle east wants to rule over you. Wouldn’t you do the same? Actually Crna Gora was involved. They attacked Dubrovnik.
and yet tito able to make everyone statisfied and united. untill he is gone and toxic nationalism and supremacism of serbs destroy everything
@@antepilic7422 :Рече бечки коњушар кога су срби ослободи 1914 после 1000 година чишћења говна из бечких штала и да ли вам тад републику у тим границама да бих сад ти нама овде држао предавања како су вас срби искористили е мој смрдо мали да није било срба ти бих и сад вадио говна из бечких штала и био једно велико ништа.
EU,GBR,USA make this war
GERMANY AND FRANCE 😉
Gambia, Zambia and Luxemburg
Saint Marino, Monaco and the vatican ...
Vanuatu, Transnistria and Djibouti
Serbian nationalism caused many decades of pain, irreversible damage. Sad part is that Serbian government still to this day dreams of those old ideologies, no matter who pays the price.
What can you tell me about the Jasenovac concentration camp?
Since the Serbs are the only bad thing in this world in your opinion, you should actually be happy.
@nepopois9553 your comment is so irrelevant. I didn't say that Serbs are the only bad thing in the world. I saod Serbian nationalism and the government that is running Serbia. I know a lot of Serbs that are not in agreement with what Serbia did and still does. You shouldn't comment if your comments are this dumb 🙄
@@Iliryandescendant7 Dude ,nationalists was Croats and Muslims from Bosnia they wanted sovereign state not Serbs,
Serbian answer on that was forming 2 Serbian state on all land where Serbs live.
@@Iliryandescendant7 Of course you love Serbs so much, even your Serb ancestors. You are a loving and caring human being.
You are biased.Never mentioned srb killed Croats in parlament(skupstina)
That was in 1928 and have nothing with SFRJ break up , Serbs are let you join the kingdom after they free your land. You have to thank Serbian king alexander for giving you that oportunity to join a kingdom.
@@psikiatriekimi O yes it has lot to do with it.
@@psikiatriekimi
U "Pismu Srbima, S.Pribićević 1933.:
Mi Srbi u Hrvatskoj smo uvijek bili sredstvo Beograda u rukama protiv Zagreba. Prvo nas napujdaju kao bijesne pse na Hrvatsku a onda nas šutnu kao jako bolesnog psa koji nikome ne treba.
Srbi treba da uvide i da shvate, da oni nemaju nikakvog, ni moralnog, ni političkog, ni nacionalnog, ni istorijskog prava, da vladaju nad Hrvatima i da ih silom (diktatura) drže u zajednici sa sobom.
Historijsko je iskustvo pokazalo da će se prije Velebit srušiti u more i isušiti Dunav, Sava i Drava, nego što će se hrvatski narod odreći svog imena i svoje narodne individualnosti.
@@psikiatriekimi This is where much of the hate started !!!
You don t kill other leaders when they come for talks, you are responsible for their security and if you can not offer that, your word and everything else further means nothing...
Maybe on some islands in Papua New Guinea this is still the case( excuses to people from png ;) )
@@antetomasovich7710those were comunists killing comunists.
Serbian Bosnia is still not liberated into Serbia, still against democratic will of us Bosnian natives
War is dangerous game so many innocent people killed, so sad and heartbreaking ,the genocide of Serbenicia makes me feel sick for our muslim brothers that weee ruthlessly killed 💔
Proud to be Croat
probably written from Wien, Austria
@@mangodzeri6613 Or Tokio, Serbia...
Not civil war, no way.
Maybe the west should not have backed one form of nationalism over another. They had a peace deal before the wars but the west got into the Bosniaks ears and said don't sign it .
How to know if a documentary is accurate: look to see if there are Serbs in the comments saying that it's inaccurate.
Incredible account of horror.
🤣 on 26:55, that lady... She doesnt know what she is talking about or she recieved a pay check, but she said 'serbs nationalist slaughtered muslims and croats'? Why, where, when? And all that after she said at the begining that croats were on the Nazi side 😂
6:25 Serbs have always been a minority in Croatia. Tudman did not invent that. In 1991, there were 12% of Serbs in Croatia. This allegation that Serbs have had their fundamental rights reduced is the biggest fabrication in this film. What rights and by what exact decision?
That is not true at all! Croatia has become for the very first time as a souverain nation in 1995, prior to that (Except during the poppet nazi state during the WW2) Dubrovnik, Dalmatia and Slavonia, (Western Srem ) were predominantly Serbian residents in did, During the Austria Hungarian invasion statistic are 2,5 million Serbs and 700,000 Croats recorded. The number of Serbs detreated during the WW2 under the Fascist regime with Genocide, mass murder in concentration camps, even the children camps and also under communists after the WW2. The only fact is that Serbian people were constitutional people in Croatia all the time and then overnight they become ethnic minority under the new Ushashi regime in 90' !
@@milancvetkovic1152Such unoriginal propaganda, you haven't even looked at any of the Austro-Hungarian censuses.
Balkan - ILLYRISCHE HALBINSEL, Bal-Honig und Kan- Blut
Tito kept ustashe and Cetniks in check ..that’s why Yugoslavia was the best during his time ..no one was above one another ..everything equal and the same no matter ethnicity or religion .the way it should be
I was shocked at how empty this countries were. Nothing but ghost towns, and a few old people here and there.
It wasn't always like that. The war has torn Yugoslavia apart. Half of Bosniaks live outside of Bosnia because of the war.
@@truthseeker8273there were more people in bosnia 1995 then now 2023 why? Bad corrupted politicians who frighten and drive the youth from this country with a new war and separation sad truth.
Well explained in less than one hour
Excellent job 👍👍
It was not accurately described at all. If you just take their word for it, it may seem all neatly wrapped up, but this a terrible telling of the conflict. Its literally made for an unaware western world, who just want the bullet points presented in an easily digestible form. This was a terrible job.
😂😂I think I know your nationality without knowing your name
There were no mujaheedines from Albania or Kosova in Bosnia war !! They fought they own war in Kosova and has nothing to do with mujaheedins or religion at all !! In Croatia though there were many …
Religion is no and never will be a point between real Croats and real Albanian brothers, whether christian or muslim .
Too many wars we fought side by side
16:04 Sound familiar in today's world? 🤫
Yugoslavia existed for the better part of the 20th century, from the 1910s to the early 1990s in notable stability, barring minor incidents that the West blows out of proportion to substantiate its premise of Balkanization - a neologism (that has fairly little substantiation in history and ethnography) they've invented for the mere purpose of justifying a number of aggressive and detrimental attempts of subverting the resurging Balkanite states of Serbia, Greece, and Bulgaria, as a retaliation for the three's role in the defeat of the Ottoman Empire (the West's long-lasting ally), and the liberation of the whole peninsula of the aforementioned's rule. Serbia has especially earned the enmity of the Western powers as a result of her endeavors in WW1 which have shattered the Old World order and initiated a subsequent, yet steep withering of the traditional global, colonial powers of the world, and Yugoslavia has established its foreign policy on emancipating the Third World under its leadership and preventing the Western powers from re-establishing themselves as the governing body of its former colonies in Africa, Asia, and the Near East, thus effectively cutting them off from their vital wells of natural resources, thus relegating the West ever-further to the status of mere vassals of the USA. In both cases of Yugoslavia's destruction, meaning in 1941, and 1992, it was destroyed by the hostile foreign policies of great powers, so this "plunged into chaos after Tito's death" premise is not true, and is shameful dehumanizing propaganda.
The experiment failed. It was all smoke and mirrors. It was bound to blow up.
That sounds soooooo tainted. European history began long before the 20th century. 1910? I thought Yugo. Was formed after WWI...
@@edpoletto8048 hes talking about the first kingdom of serbs croats and slovenes, which kinda formed after 1917.
Stvar je u tome sto Srbi nisu htjeli živjeti u Nezavisnog državi Hrvatskoj a to nije njima bilo jasno i nisu htjeli otići ali su bili primorani kao i Palestinci
7:14 This is pure nonsense and fabrication. "schahovnica" or chess board is the Croatian coat of arms from the 7th century.
Horrible, at least 10 mistakes in the first 8 minutes, couldn't watch anymore. there is more Serbian propaganda here than in most Serbian documentaries. In fact I would suggest to anyone to watch any Serbian documentary about the war (made by an independent TV house) to get more accurate and balanced view. It is allways the same in these foreign documentaries about the conflict, they always pick one side, sometimes is the Croatian side sometimes Serbian, just never the side of the truth, which is always in the middle.
Those were not civil wars.
Srbija napala hrvatsku i vršila genocid Srbija genocidna država ili beogradski pašaluk.
often wonder if the peacekeepers helped the situation of made it worse through their hands off apporach
Dam the US can't win fa losing we literally get blamed for all the worls problems
all of these documentaries are zdf docs, ie german documentaries. if you don't like them just watch american TV.
America has its hand everywhere. Superpowers are typically not popular for the chaos they cause Roman's were disliked as well. Maybe America should go the way of Switzerland?
I know this war was a great tragic moment for Americans as they could not get parts for their Yugo. To take the use of an Americans car is an unthinkable crime.
Why has there never been a coup in USA?
There is no US Embassy in USA
Joke told from Angola to Asia to Latin America
nice documentary
It's not often you find something so objective as this piece, This piece demonizes everyone (unfairly)
Serbian Republic must to be free, We don't want to live in U.S Islamic state Bosnia( Sarajevo) Syria and Irak like Jazidas, We are free people, Europeans and Christians...
move back where you came from.... preko drine ti je mjesto.... mozda i na sibir da odselis....
It was an agression not civil war
Is a agresion by Serbia, not a civil war.
I've never watched a more one sided WESTERN supported documentary in my life. Super super one sided... makes me sick.
The Albanians in Serbia got independence, with the help of NATO........ so why can't NATO help Serbs in Croatia, Kosovo, Bosnia and Herzegovina get Independence
Ne može genocidna je samo beogradski pašaluk ako ti išta razumiješ.
Yugoslavia was balkanized by the US.
Kingdom of Yugoslavia started to be balkanized under the pressure of Nazzi Nazzi Germany 1939 - Hrvatska banovina ; under Nazzi occupation 1941 - 1945; under the communist regime further on with creation of Republics and finaly deconstructed by US / EU stance 1991.
None of mentioned perpetrators wanted indenpendent country while they were advancing over the Balkans.
Only satelite countries were and still are tolerated.
@@dusancville Now tell the story how serbian king alexander brought the english masons on balkan ground...years before that
Complete propaganda.
What is propaganda
lot of mistakes:
there were too few serbs in bosnia to be able to commit so many atrocities on their own, they were supplied and helped by serbia all the time, as were the croatians by croatia, but it is the west's fault that they allowed the aggressors (genocide serbs) to occupy half of the country
Serbs are/ were living there and defended themself. Those presidents of ex Yu republikcs wanted their own little banana countries to rool like Tito? Milo im Crna Gora is the last one.
It is a war. Serbia wanted Bosnian land for Serbia. As always this lead to bloodshed.
It's a shame that you reduce the Bosniaks to a religious group and you keep calling them muslims. What barbaric channel is this? It's obvious that this German based film company has biases towards the Croats. In a weir way this reflects the current changes in Bosnian politics. The Bosniaks can forget their dream of having a normal democratic country.
Tako su se tada zvali Muslimani,zadnji rat u BiH bio je samo jedan u nizu oslobodilačkih protiv turskih kvinslinga Muslimana za mnoge nemuslimane,to treba tako gledat kao i da je BiH ostatak Otomanskog Carstva i Muslimani se smatraju nasljednicima turaka i jedinim gospodarima BiH
Bosniaks are the Muslim Bosnians, that’s what they’re called.. the other two groups are Bosnian Serbs and Bosnian Croats. What’s the problem?
No one prosecuted Srbs in Croatia.They kept there jobs and there is even Srbian Democratic Party in Croatia.
Bosnian muslims? What kind of fascism is this? You're denying Bosniaks their identity.
U ratu ste uzeli staro regionalno ime za stanovnike Bosne Bošnjaci kao svoje nacionalno, Muslimani ste bili i ostali za sve druge,potomci turskih kvinslinga vjekovno dušmani svima okolo
@@prcbukvu2293 Ne tako davno, danas takozvana Evropa ( Europa, tj ARAPIJA ) je bila islamska civilizacija, dio carstva Tartarije. Ali cak i u lažnoj istoriji koju su ti dali šejtansi, šejtnaksi slobodni zidari, Indijanci, gog i magog, slobodni zidari koji su zauzeli svijet, Bošnjaci su stanovnici Bosne, prema tome u Bosni nisu stanovali "Srbi" i "Hrvati". Srb jednostavno znaci "rob, sluga, kmet" pretvoreni sa tim imenom u "naciju" iskljucivo od onih koji su nasilno pretvoreni u ortodoksne sljedbenike lažnog Isusa cezarovog mesiju, a Kroat na stranim jezicima znaci "Krstaš", zato jesu svi katolici. U svakom slucaju, ako ce pravoslavci biti "Srbi", potomci rimskih kvislinga, i katolici ce biti "Hrvati" potomci papalskih kvislinga, tako ce i muslimani biti Bošnjaci gdje je Bošnjak iskljucivo musliman, a možeš samo da rikneš od muke kada te toliko muči, a kretenu ne vidis da smo svi okupirani.
VUKOVAR IS NOT VUCOVAR!!!
AGRESION state on state,not 'ciwil war" ! HUGE diferent ;)
Independence war for Slovenia, but civil wars for Croatia and Bosnia. That’s the real truth.
British serbian propaganda
You are made terrible big mistake of the title of this video. War in Bosnia was clearly Aggression by Serbia. At time when Bosnia and Herzegovina was accepted in the UN as recognized state it was 1992.04.15.
Wrong!
Did most of a people wanted separation of BiH?
Građanski oslobodikački rat protiv Turskih domaćih kvinslinga Muslimana za mnoge nemuslimane
Pa sto i danas nema Bosne nedjeljive?
4:24 Out of the communist system… they never been part of communist system 😅
Ich finde und wünsche irgendwann mal die völkerstatten Balken Länder einigen sich unter Serbische Fahnen. Dann die sind bestens aufgehoben.
Danke für ihren Verständnis.
This is clearly far from factual
Vukovar 😭🇭🇷
Beautiful town that suffered immensely. Atrocities that can not be forgotten.
A lot of serbs still coping on here a see 😅
Not ONE CROATIAN SOLDIER WENT ONTO SERBIAN SOIL AND NOT ONE CROATIAN SOLDIER FIRED A GUNSHOT IN SERBIA: NO SERBIAN PERSON WAS HARMED BY ANY ONE CROATIAN SOLDIER:
●● HOW THEN DO YOU GET A GREATER CROATIA :
Croatia wanted a piece of Bosnia
You ruined officially recognized state Yugoslavia. Thats how. Yugoslav army entered Croatia to fight against Croatian separatists
Finding the truth requires critical thinking. In regards to Jugoslavia you have to ask yourself which side loved Jugoslavia and which side hated Jugoslavia. The one that hated it is the one who started it to break it up and create new nations....I will give you a clue Serbs loved Jugoslavia as they were widely spread throughout and were the most damaged in its disintegration. Today's war in Russia is a consequence of the Western double standards.
The critical thing that outsiders watching this documentary do not understand is that by the serbs wanting to dominate others is what destroyed the concept of yugoslavia. In general, other nations liked it in yugoslavia when it was federal and all nations were on equal footing, but that would all change with milošević. You wouldnt want to be married to a woman that you once loved but now shes coming at you with a knife, would you?
Serbs commited genocide and somehow they're the one who lost something.
This is clearly serbian false propaganda.
This documentary is not even close to what happened to Ex Jugoslavia . Next time, do some research, and you will see who wanted the war and who did not.
Tudjman 🇭🇷❤️
Lol, i don't understand why to.many people who comment on this don't use their real names ...
evo ja se ne bojim ali nemam sta reci osim da mi se sve ovo gadi 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮.Niti smo znali ko je Tito niti ko nam ga je uvalio i ko je u stvari nama vladao ,to je licno za mene porazavajuce .
Another "documentary" with simple goal. Reduction of serbian nationalist crimes and relativisation of giult