The ending part had me howling, when Alvarez told him real sports have the 30min built in and Dave says “AEW should do it” and Alvarez just screams yes!
@@EvilGoatBoywould he be part of a rambling, Stuttering storyline? Meltzer sucks. A guy who was big into AJPW applauding the overall nonsense AEW does is craziness
Dave has always gotten criticized for thinking he's smarter than every booker yet never booking an actual wrestling promotion. AEW is the first time him and a booker have agreed on like 99% of how modern wrestling should work. So now, whenever AEW gets criticized, Dave needs to defend it or else his vast knowledge of wrestling looks fallible. In essence, AEW is an extension of Meltzer's reputation in the wrestling bubble, so he always gets super defensive when it gets criticized. He's not a paid shill for AEW, he's its biggest simp.
@@dngn4774best summation of the Meltzer AEW relationship I’ve seen. AEW is a representation of his wrestling philosophy, for him it has to be good or he is wrong.
Bryan saying, “That’s fine. I’ll miss the end of the show,” and, “No, I’m gonna complain,” is too perfect. He’s right! It’s AEW’s job to make sure people recording in the year of our Lord 2023 can see the damn ending! And nobody can stop him from complaining about it.
When smarks reach the level of blaming viewers for not doing research into learning where to catch the rest of the show, you just get this epiphany in your head like "Ohhhhh...this guy really wants wresting to only be for 200 neckbeards sweating in a basement in Receda."
@@dngn4774 From my experience, that's really just what it is. There's people seriously argueing that nothing needs to change about AEW because TK (or rather his father) is rich and doesn't need the company to be profitable because of that and that they could burn 30 million a year for decades before it ever becomes a problem.
It's so unbelievably pathetic that Dave can't just say "Yes, they need to plan this out properly like WWE does." It's like... impossible for him. It's kind of mindblowing that a man his age would be so unbelievably blinded by his own bias. It's downright cartoonish.
Dude is comparing A SCRIPTED SHOW THAT CAN CONTROL BASICALLY CONTROL TIME GIVEN TO EACH MATCH to actual sports. Dave is sounding like an idiot defending this mess. Then again it could be Tony Khan not having balls to tell his employees to cut their screen time because a match was longer than expected. Or he doesn’t have the balls to tell his employees that their match can’t be the 20 minute 5-star classic they want it to be.
Being a fan also means you can see your show/team/product/band/etc. doing awful and criticize them for it, wanting them to do better. Dave is more of an irrational fanboy for AEW because he thinks they do no wrong and can't see their mistakes.
He's never gonna say anything to make aew look bad cause he knows how sensitive Tony khan is and when people he's worked with give a honest opinion that doesn't make aew look positive he cuts ties with them
2023 may go down as the most embarrassing year for the dirt sheets. Started off the year with the pathetic reporting of WWE supposedly being sold to the Saudi, the entire punk saga in AEW, and all of them getting worked by the WWE and CM punk and trying to backtrack on it later. If you’re still paying these supposed journalists a monthly subscription, you’re part of the problem
Smarks melted down over the fake Saudi news like it was the end of the world, then immediately moved on to whatever the next wwe crisis was without missing a beat
Amen. I listen to ACTUAL wrestlers' podcast. More entertaining and at least a look behind the actual matches, stories, and minds of what goes into the actual product.
What is Meltzer’s issue? AEW isn’t a real sport. There’s no reason an over run can’t be built into the show. His attempted analogies of real sporting events is ridiculous. Completely different things.
It's funny how Dave is basically saying Tony is kayfabing the time overrun. Wrestling isn't a sport in that way. It's scripted. Imagine if someone told you to actually get PTSD and schizophrenia for an actors role. Sometimes, kayfabing for realism is a bad idea. Not only is AEW losing out on viewership because it doesn't work around the overrun, but viewers aren't even seeing the full main events unless they are watching live. That's terrible for business even if the show sucks or is amazing. Imagine having to work or sleep and then the next day you sit down and get something to eat. You pull out a beer. Just in time for the main event. And then the show stops after someone just took a clothesline out of nowhere.
When casual wwe fans ask me what is AEW? I show them clips of an empty head drinking blood, and a plumber with over 50 skewers sticking out of his head. There's always that shocked and cringed out expressions on their faces that say "please forget what I asked..."
@@TheMrAlgoh and to marks AEW is “real wrestling”. No goofy gimmick matches or anything sports entertainment going on in that company whatsoever.. 🙄. AEW is embarrassing so often. Started out with such promise but quickly devolved into such a bad product.
This is one of the funniest segments on the Drive Thru I’ve heard in a while. Dave is fervently defending Tony’s shit show, making Bryan Alvarez of all people seem sensible. All the while Jim and Brian are cackling in the background. Pure gold.
@@TheRealReviewTechUSAand its a ridiculous argument, as soon as he starts off with “Ok can I tell you something”? Or “Well here’s the deal”, he’s going to give a BS answer. He gives a childish answer but still talks to the audience and in this case Bryan like a child. He knows its not a real sporting event and like other Wrestling promotions, are capable of planning an overrun, they’re just so disorganized they dont do it. Dave knows better but he is so adamant to defend AEW on any and every turn. They can’t have shorter matches, they can’t build in an overrun, AEW isnt the problem, Its EVERYONE ELSE’S problem. Come on Dave, you’re a grown man and that’s your argument. His answers come off like an AEW lobbyist
Or Saints Row 1. There's a show called KBOOM 108 (Where we're right and they are wrong) on the original Saints Row that is as sidesplitting as any GTA radio ever. Just the dumbest guys ever.
Bro meltzer critques AEW so fucking often, since like 2 years. He said at the last booker of the year award that Triple H should one it and buried the new letter fans for being dumb and voting for tony khan. the narrative here is just downright funny, you guys are the epitimy of fake news. And this argument is typical meltzer sometimes hes just a fucking dork when it comes to argumenting. I can show you an example if you like, like 100 examples. LETS GO I GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES: Dave Meltzer: "They (AEW) are cold, boy are they cold and how to change that? Man, that's hard to do... Edge there (at Collision last night) and it didn't move a lot of tickets. Edge is a good performer and he's a good talker and everything like that but it's not (C.M) Punk as far as a gamechanger" From Wrestling Observer Radio last night, while previewing the Tuesday Dynamite/NXT head-to-head on Tuesday. He says AEW have a good card for Tuesday but WWE are loading up NXT and AEW are cold right now. He says he expected Cody but didn't expect John Cena and the Undertaker on NXT. He says this doesn't matter in the long-run though because there was a head-to-head NXT and Dynamite last year in similar circumstances and they both loaded up the show and it had no longer-term effect after that week. He says it's going to be hard for AEW to change how cold they are right now. He says it's not the end of the world, they should get a good TV deal, he "doesn't worry about their future and all that but to get it back to where it was a year ago will be very difficult". He says Salt Lake City, where they were for Collision last night is a very bad market for them and didn't get big ticket sales there when they were hotter. But it was only about 2500 people and Edge didn't move numbers at the end. // Another meltzer quote: That's my thoughts on AEW right now. Again, they built a company on the idea that they were not going to be WWE and that they were going to be fan-friendly and they should be judged by that standard. [People say] "you can't judge them like a sport, they're not sport" well they're trying to be a sport and you can judge them by sport. If you want to say "you can't judge them by sport" then ok- let's judge them by pro wrestling. What would a pro wrestling promotion do in this situation? What would New Japan do? We already know what New Japan would do:- they would tell you the day of what happened and why. They might not tell you everything, they might hold some stuff back but they will certainly tell you if they're not on the show and this is how long for. With Kota I bushi it's like we don't know when he's going to be back, we all understand that, but they didn't pretend it never happened. They did make a mistake in advertising him for the NJ Cup and I think it was a communication issue as it's so against what that promotion is to do that. It ended up all coming out and it made New Japan look stupid. It's not just New Japan; All Japan, NOAH or any independent group. On any independent show when a named guy is pulled from their show they go right on the internet and they tell you. They'll say "this guy is pulled from the show", whether they give you the reason or not is one thing but they will tell you. I just think AEW should live up to the standard of at least second level pro wrestling. BRO so tell me what is this... This is real critique so dont tell these fake news that cornette always going to drop but just read how much he critiques AEW. I can post you 100 other examples
Dave reminds me of my friend who got mad at me when I told him the stories and booking made no sense and told me I had to watch “Being The Elite” to fully understand AEW better.
Not really, this is not a new issue, it's just an old issue with a new coat of paint, this is the same as the whole storylines being based off of social media posts, and skits on Being The Elite, Dave is an obsessive compulsive who follows all that stuff, so he thinks everyone else should also, he does not nor ever will realise or accept that he's an oddity, and not the average viewer.
God I love Dave's take of "I learned how to watch AEW correctly. All these other people who's lives don't exist around wrestling 24/7 need to get with the program." Really sends home the message that AEW is built for the casual fan. Someone who just wants to watch some weekly pro wrestling.
I only watch AEW. I don't have time to watch WWE, IMPACT, AEW, NJPW, AAA and all the other promotions. I got stuff to do. In all those I prefer AEW and that's why it's the only one I watch. I'm not a hardcore fun but I like how AEW does stuff, not all the time, but I like it. Most importantly, I like the roster.
This is literally one of the funniest clips in a long time, I'm dying listening to them argue. Alvarez is speaking just basic facts and Uncle Dave is speedrunning nonsense AEW defense and acting like it's not a scripted show.
“Make the Matches shorter” Dave: Not part of the Plan “Have an overrun built in” Dave: Not Part of the Plan “People miss the show” Dave: thats YOUR fault not AEW’s
Bryan Alvarez has been a bit more critical of AEW this year. He didn't think the build for that 4 pillars match was good. He questioned AEW's storytelling recently. He even felt the MJF angle at Full Gear didn't need to be so complicated. It says a lot when even he is questioning the constant overruns.
@@chadkirk150It was actually minus five stars though. Sharmell Vs. Jenna Morasca isn't even a so bad it's good match, it's an actual chore to sit through the entrances and the actual match.
What do you expect? He has made an emotional (and financial) investment in Tony Skywalker as being the prophecied one who will battle Vince Palpatine and Darth Levesque. It is part of his identity, like MAGA republicans. He can't let it go.
Omg, Brian and Jim just dying of laughter in the background made this entire thing just golden. This might be my new favorite Jim Cornette video. If Steven P New would go to bat for me like Dave does for AEW, I'd pay the man whatever he wanted.
Never in my life would I ever have thought I would ever hear Dave condescend to Brian Alvarez, they're both on the same strata as far as I'm concerned, but man, hearing Dave light the torch against Brian for disagreeing? Absolute insanity and hilarious.
If you ever compare how Meltzer treats Bryan Alvarez to how Jim treats Brian Last, it's night and day. Jim actually respects his co-host and doesn't treat him like a child.
I truly believe that Alvarez wants to just enjoy a real wrestling program. And Dave is literally saying No, you shouldn't....which is Goddamn snake eating it's own tail logic
They've had loads of disagreements like this over the years, where Bryan struggles to get a word in edge ways, making a perfectly sound point. It's always entertaining but makes you feel sympathy for Bryan. Jim's audience/'cult' just get's rather selective experience of their output, like how the AEW fanatics are only exposed to the clips of Cornette that fan the flames...
@shindean "real wrestling program", yet he gets on his knees for the bucks and their crop. While hating on legitimate pro wrestlers like Austin Theory and and Randy Orton, you know guys who actually can wrestle and look like somebody. Stop being delusional, boy.
I went to Smackdown last week in Brooklyn and not only did they end on time- but they managed to fit two in-house main events in. The whole event ended just before 10:30pm while NYC transit still had express services available. You mean to tell me WWE can do a live tv show and two extra matches in two in a half hours….but AEW can’t either cut segments or shorten their matches so that they can end on time? 😂
"This person says that Pro Sports do have a 30 minute overrun built in, so they actually do have it for live sports." "So they should do it here." "YES!" I haven't had a belly laugh like that in ages, my God, what a complete waste of time this would have been without Cornette and Last.
honestly there's a point in my life where I used to listen to their channel, and alvarez is the one who kept me interested. Sure they say some dumb shit but he was 100% on point here lol. Dave blaming the viewers for not recording the next show is actually insane
The condescension from Dave is infuriating. He's just so dismissive. "You're not a sports fan." I would've reached through the computer and throttled him.
Yeah it’s made even worse when his own logic isn’t even consistent. “OMG why can’t you see this?! NXT doesn’t miss the overrun because they call the network! But AEW can’t do it because it’s like a sports event. And their matches are long because they don’t want them to go 5-7 minutes! But it’s the fans’ responsibility because AEW doesn’t know when the matches will end”! 🙄
I love the part where he says “sports fans don’t DVR games” What? I do because after work I always work out at our gym at our office and by the time I get home the Met or Penguin game is always in progress so I DVR it. Got the feeling this is the case for alot of other ppl as well. What a condescending douche Meltzer has become
My favorite part is Dave going "Bryyyyannn...Bryyyyaaaan" at 13:48 😂😂😂 Edit: Honorable mention to Dave going "No, no, no, no no" in a high pitched voice at 11:26 Also, Brian losing it at 7:36 kills me lol
I've never disliked Bryan Alvarez - even when I disagree, he argues his point well enough that I mostly respect it. Compared to Dave, he's an Oxford University lecturer.
I think Alvarez is a smug dork, and when it comes to certain wrestlers, he clearly has an axe to grind, but he’s definitely the more reasonable one of the two.
That's what makes me laugh at Dave being so intentionally obtuse. Wrestling is scripted unlike live sports. If your wrestling show consistently goes over time it's because you poorly organized it.
I’ve watched this clip like 10 times and I still laugh when Dave says “well then they should have it here” at 18:38 after arguing against it for like 7 minutes already
Agreed! I've watched NJPW semi regularly in recent years, so I'm familiar with most of those guys that AEW being in. But even to me, AEW does absolutely nothing to explain why these guys are supposed to be a big deal (then usually books them in a pointless match which makes people think "why should I care about this guy?")
To be fair AEW's extremely niche audience is also the same extremely niche audience whose entire life revolves around New Japan so it makes sense they wouldn't try to actually explain who tf these people are when they bring them Stateside. Their audience already knows who they are and will throw babies in the air over em and they don't care if anyone else knows who they are bc they obviously don't care if anyone else WATCHES their show.
@@xxrocketshark216xx4the numbers say that's not true. New Japan World has maybe 100k subscribers in the US. If we add in American subscribers to their UA-cam channel, that's still only half their audience.
“ You’re not a sports fan and I am.” is a nice way of Dave trying win the argument he was badly losing haha. I’m glad that fan clarified and bryan called it out to Dave. Dave has to be on the AEW payroll.
I wonder if Dave was the reason why Bryan stopped being an UFC MMA fan and just watches the "big fights." Dave covers the MMA shows with "Filthy" Tom Lawlor or Garrett Gonzales now
Even if his batshit insane "AEW should be treated like a sporting event" logic made any sense, his "you're not a sports fan and I am" response is EXTREMELY condescending and annoying. I'm amazed the dude has any friends because if a friend of mine spoke to me like that once I'd think twice about hanging out with them anymore in the future. No faster way to run people off than by talking down to them.
@@xxrocketshark216xx4 yea it was a condescending response and a way to sway the argument his way with an ignorant comment. Pro Wrestling is not exactly a sport, you can end it on time and to say otherwise is just Dave protecting AEW like he always does. With the losses in money this year, Dave hasn’t covered it with any real journalistic integrity like he would with other companies. He kept pushing the narrative that AEW has a billion dollar evaluation and that they could get a billion dollar tv deal. He never once said who would buy AEW at the price or any real, credible financial source that said AEW has that value or would get that tv rights deal. Just another example of his reporting being inaccurate to try and push the AEW success narrative. I believe that he believes he can sway billion dollar companies with his yellow journalism to invest in AEW at a high price…. With losing money every year, long term injuries to their roster, nda issues, lack of sponsorship revenue, corporate reshuffling, bad press, low tv ratings and lack of a market place identity the value of AEW maybe at its lowest point just as they go into negotiations.
Listening to Bryan and Dave argue is the equivalent of the old Turtles in Time Super Nintendo game where you fought Bebop and Rocksteady on the pirate ship and the two morons would start fighting and hitting each other for no reason.
The argument that Dave advances of live sport vs scripted programming is literally the most brain cell killing thing I’ve heard in long time. I mean wow!
I literally haven’t missed a UFC card in at least 5 years. They NEVER go over. They’re usually far UNDER because of fights ending quickly and they have to use video and commentary to fill the time. Dave is a dingbat.
Has Uncle Dave forgotten that pro wrestling is a work? Yeah theres overrun sometimes for basketball and football and actual non-worked sports, but wrestling is all planned from beginning to end.
@@MysticKebabare you sure it isn’t Jacqueline Perry, or an affair with one of the ‘young cucks’?? Maybe the star of ‘sissy boy slap fights’ on UA-cam?? The ‘GREAT’ (like all things AEW, according to highly ‘medicated’ tiny cuckhan) Kenneth Omega???
If this doesn’t prove he’s on the payroll nothing will. Tony wanted to hire Jim too for positive coverage on AEW when they started. Jim said no, Dave said yes.
And considering the narrative that certain wrestling channels always have towards aew, despite the garbage they produce, you can see who are getting paid.
Dynamic Dude Dave Meltzer and his sidekick are having a argument. AEW defense are becoming weaker and harder to argue for and CM Punk are living rent free in their heads. But yeah Meltzer and Alvarez are goofs
DVR won't end on a sporting event that goes over time because it's live. The recording ends when the game ends. Wrestling is formatted for whatever time block it's set for.
First, the Elite has a lover feud that embarrassed the business, WWE shits on all dirt sheets and makes them cry because no one knew about Punk. Now even Meltzer's trained money is turning on him. He's having a bad day. They are going the need the "AEW Disciple Committee" laywers to figure out who gets custody of Meltzer and his estate at this rate. Just think what will happen if WBD does end up pick-up WWE. How can Dave's life get any worse... oh wait, Tony could lose Booker of the Year.
I love when Dave can't rebuttal with anything because he knows he's not making sense, he just goes "Well...." 😂😂😂 He does it in the exact same way every time and it's so hilarious
Listening to Brian Alvarez basically tell Dave to shut up and let him finish is quite hilarious and even then he makes excuses. The simple thing is AEW is over running because all the other matches and segments probably don't stick to a strict time so by the time they get to the end it goes over by all the rest of the time wasted. Vince figured this out 20 years or so ago. Eric Bischoff used to ignore it at times until it was too late and over ran Halloween Havoc in 1998 and people didn't get the main event. It's not quite on that level but it feels like it getting there. I recall when AEW was first starting out and Tony said they were going to learn from things that Nitro did in its presentation and how the show was structured and I think he has taken the approach literally at times.
Not knowing when a scripted, 2 hour show will end is a concept I didn’t know could be conjured up. Dave actually took to heart when Jerry Lawler used to say during matches for video games, “This match could go on for 60 seconds or 60 minutes.” 😂😂
AEW does need to format their show better. You can't claim you're like a sport when you do 2 hour long press scrums talking about how you and the person you're working with put together your match. Or about all the ideas you and "creative" came up with.
Even I learned, booking my wrestling figures as a 10 year old, if I'm going to do a "PPV", then I need to make sure all my figures matches end on time, and the "event" ends before 10 PM. And I was the only one taking in my wrestling figures' PPVs.😂😂😂
AEW creative??? ‘MOX’…you blade DIRECTLY into the camera ‘Brokeback’ Page…you drink someone’s blood ‘All of you’…good luck with your floor routine gymnastics tonight. I will be snorting my ‘meds’…if anyone needs me, I won’t be blinking. - tiny cuckhan (weekly)
Alvarez went the route of "we need to critiq AEW so they become better and learn" while Meltzer went the "They are always right, hey everyone you're just stupid if you dont get it" LIVE
Get an attorney who will defend you like Dave will defend AEW.
Why would you want a lawyer that poor??? 😂 😂😂
or get ome who defends you like Jim and brian defend phil brooks no matter what he does or who he does it to.
Or get some ribs from Texas roadhouse and hope the never run out
*The Bucks
I laughed way too hard at this
The fact that Dave is openly admitting AEW has no clue what they’re doing but has no clue he’s saying it is pure classic
glad someone else notice that
Every week it feels like Tony is literally writing the shows as they go along and everybody is cutting promos they make up off the top of their head.
@@BBoy4040That’s what they love about it. That’s why every time WWE does a round of releases they all flock to AEW. Unscripted promos
@@leir2005 That's not always great. Some of these people really shouldn't be cutting on the fly promos.
If this doesn't prove he has stock in the company....😂
The ending part had me howling, when Alvarez told him real sports have the 30min built in and Dave says “AEW should do it” and Alvarez just screams yes!
Alvarez screaming "YES!" when Meltzer said what Bryan had been saying all along just about ended me 😂😂😂😂😂
That had me in tears laughing.
18:30 just so we can relive this magical moment 🤣🤣🤣
BRO LMFAO IM CRYING LOL
This proves Dave is on the payroll. He defends AEW like his life depends on it.
Why pay someone money something that person likely does gladly for free?
@@ziggyszmulewitz7712how do you know he hasn't been paid since day one
@chrischar9428 It's 50/50 whether Uncle Dave is a paid or unpaid shill.
@@ziggyszmulewitz7712yeah, that's the sad part. They don't have to pay him. They just have to pretend to be his friends.
I don’t know if he’s on the payroll directly, but I think he’s a slave to his audience.
This is amazing.
Dave is refusing to listen to Bryan and is desperately grasping.
That has always been Dave lol
Just not being able to blame AEW is frightening
@@EvilGoatBoywould he be part of a rambling, Stuttering storyline?
Meltzer sucks. A guy who was big into AJPW applauding the overall nonsense AEW does is craziness
I wouldn't nessacarily want to listen to Bryan Alvarez either but ya Dave's a clown
@@PontFlairor a new show AEW STUTTER where Meltzer gives stars to promos
You can tell AEW is 100% personal for Dave. Nobody can criticize his friends for any reason.
Dave has always gotten criticized for thinking he's smarter than every booker yet never booking an actual wrestling promotion. AEW is the first time him and a booker have agreed on like 99% of how modern wrestling should work. So now, whenever AEW gets criticized, Dave needs to defend it or else his vast knowledge of wrestling looks fallible. In essence, AEW is an extension of Meltzer's reputation in the wrestling bubble, so he always gets super defensive when it gets criticized. He's not a paid shill for AEW, he's its biggest simp.
I mean, Dave criticises AEW fairly regularly
@@dngn4774best summation of the Meltzer AEW relationship I’ve seen. AEW is a representation of his wrestling philosophy, for him it has to be good or he is wrong.
@@nectarinedreams7208Whatever you say scum
At this point, he's not only gaslighting Bryan, but all of us too
You know its bad when even Alvarez is criticising AEW
Bryan was told off by Christian last time. He's not protecting AEW no more.
TONY KHAN PROMISED ME MARIA KANELLIS ON A PLATTER IN RETURN FOR CLICKBAIT!!
MINUS 5 DATES!!!!
Sméagol AlvarAss
We'll truly know hell has frozen over when Alvarez says a good thing about CM Punk.
He’s been pro WWE all year anyway
Alaverez was holding out for his own aew contract
Bryan saying, “That’s fine. I’ll miss the end of the show,” and, “No, I’m gonna complain,” is too perfect. He’s right! It’s AEW’s job to make sure people recording in the year of our Lord 2023 can see the damn ending! And nobody can stop him from complaining about it.
When smarks reach the level of blaming viewers for not doing research into learning where to catch the rest of the show, you just get this epiphany in your head like "Ohhhhh...this guy really wants wresting to only be for 200 neckbeards sweating in a basement in Receda."
@@dngn4774 especially when Peee Dubya Geeeee is gonna go bye bye, Those neckbeards need more AEW
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@@dngn4774 From my experience, that's really just what it is. There's people seriously argueing that nothing needs to change about AEW because TK (or rather his father) is rich and doesn't need the company to be profitable because of that and that they could burn 30 million a year for decades before it ever becomes a problem.
@@KomradeKrusher what they fail to account for is that rich people don't like burning money like that
Jim and Brian laughing at them made my day a little brighter.
Have a good week.
you too, buddy
God bless!
It's so unbelievably pathetic that Dave can't just say "Yes, they need to plan this out properly like WWE does."
It's like... impossible for him.
It's kind of mindblowing that a man his age would be so unbelievably blinded by his own bias. It's downright cartoonish.
hes on the payroll what do you expect bro
Dude is comparing A SCRIPTED SHOW THAT CAN CONTROL BASICALLY CONTROL TIME GIVEN TO EACH MATCH to actual sports. Dave is sounding like an idiot defending this mess.
Then again it could be Tony Khan not having balls to tell his employees to cut their screen time because a match was longer than expected. Or he doesn’t have the balls to tell his employees that their match can’t be the 20 minute 5-star classic they want it to be.
Being a fan also means you can see your show/team/product/band/etc. doing awful and criticize them for it, wanting them to do better. Dave is more of an irrational fanboy for AEW because he thinks they do no wrong and can't see their mistakes.
He's never gonna say anything to make aew look bad cause he knows how sensitive Tony khan is and when people he's worked with give a honest opinion that doesn't make aew look positive he cuts ties with them
2023 may go down as the most embarrassing year for the dirt sheets. Started off the year with the pathetic reporting of WWE supposedly being sold to the Saudi, the entire punk saga in AEW, and all of them getting worked by the WWE and CM punk and trying to backtrack on it later.
If you’re still paying these supposed journalists a monthly subscription, you’re part of the problem
Smarks melted down over the fake Saudi news like it was the end of the world, then immediately moved on to whatever the next wwe crisis was without missing a beat
Plans change 😂
That's the rules- Dave Meltzer.
Amen. I listen to ACTUAL wrestlers' podcast. More entertaining and at least a look behind the actual matches, stories, and minds of what goes into the actual product.
Sean Thigh Simp just "worked" the crowd(few people) with his $5 paper in his hand
Not a big Alvarez fan but he’s 100% right
Alvarez to AEW: "I want you to do better!"
Dave to AEW: "You're perfect just the way you are!"
It's sad that we all thought we would get a new WCW, a mid 2000s TNA backed by bigger money, an actual alternative - and we get a super indie 😢😂
Ospreay kicked out at 1 to a fucking nuclear bomb at All In ffs
I love this so much. Bryan is totally right here. IT’S PRO WRESTLING! FORMAT THE SHOW PROPERLY! THIS IS NOT A SPORT, DAVE! 😂🤣
Dave thinks pro-wrestling is like the old school pride fc mma days
Wow Dave is really riding hard for Tony.
@RonJP-pm7jp I think even Bryan Alvarez is starting to get sick of Dave's nonsense
What is Meltzer’s issue? AEW isn’t a real sport. There’s no reason an over run can’t be built into the show. His attempted analogies of real sporting events is ridiculous. Completely different things.
And just makes him look really stupid because WWE handles it fine. So there's no excuse for anything.
Real sports have extra time scheduled to. I've never had the end of a hockey game get cut off. Not even if it goes into triple ot
It's funny how Dave is basically saying Tony is kayfabing the time overrun. Wrestling isn't a sport in that way. It's scripted. Imagine if someone told you to actually get PTSD and schizophrenia for an actors role. Sometimes, kayfabing for realism is a bad idea.
Not only is AEW losing out on viewership because it doesn't work around the overrun, but viewers aren't even seeing the full main events unless they are watching live. That's terrible for business even if the show sucks or is amazing. Imagine having to work or sleep and then the next day you sit down and get something to eat. You pull out a beer. Just in time for the main event. And then the show stops after someone just took a clothesline out of nowhere.
When casual wwe fans ask me what is AEW? I show them clips of an empty head drinking blood, and a plumber with over 50 skewers sticking out of his head. There's always that shocked and cringed out expressions on their faces that say "please forget what I asked..."
@@TheMrAlgoh and to marks AEW is “real wrestling”. No goofy gimmick matches or anything sports entertainment going on in that company whatsoever.. 🙄. AEW is embarrassing so often. Started out with such promise but quickly devolved into such a bad product.
The mental gymnastics by Uncle Dave displayed here almost matches the in ring AEW gymnastics 😂
This is one of the funniest segments on the Drive Thru I’ve heard in a while. Dave is fervently defending Tony’s shit show, making Bryan Alvarez of all people seem sensible. All the while Jim and Brian are cackling in the background. Pure gold.
Perfect example of what is called, “talking out of your ass”. Dave literally blamed the station for AEW incompetence. 😂😂
And the fans lazy for not looking up the guide and dvr the other show
“People need to learn” No we don’t, AEW need a to learn to format their show properly
@@crimsonite2044That’s Dave’s go to in every argument “You need to learn. It sounds so smug and condescending.
@@TheRealReviewTechUSAand its a ridiculous argument, as soon as he starts off with “Ok can I tell you something”? Or “Well here’s the deal”, he’s going to give a BS answer. He gives a childish answer but still talks to the audience and in this case Bryan like a child.
He knows its not a real sporting event and like other Wrestling promotions, are capable of planning an overrun, they’re just so disorganized they dont do it. Dave knows better but he is so adamant to defend AEW on any and every turn.
They can’t have shorter matches, they can’t build in an overrun, AEW isnt the problem, Its EVERYONE ELSE’S problem. Come on Dave, you’re a grown man and that’s your argument. His answers come off like an AEW lobbyist
Maaan hearing Dave and Bryan arguing over the issue while Jim & Brian laughing their assess off had me choked 😭😭
"Is it that hard?"
"THAT'S NOT MY JOB!"
😂😂😂
Dave and Bryan sound like they belong on a radio in GTA 5
Or the tv in gta 4
Or Saints Row 1. There's a show called KBOOM 108 (Where we're right and they are wrong) on the original Saints Row that is as sidesplitting as any GTA radio ever. Just the dumbest guys ever.
Or like two dudes after sex when one didn’t climax
Definitely on Blaine County Talk Radio right after Ron Jakowskis segment.
@@Kratosx23K-Boom 108, where we're right and they are wrong.
I love seeing Meltzer and Alvarez fighting and heartbroken over AEW’s decline. It’s delightfully wicked 😂😂😂
Bro meltzer critques AEW so fucking often, since like 2 years. He said at the last booker of the year award that Triple H should one it and buried the new letter fans for being dumb and voting for tony khan. the narrative here is just downright funny, you guys are the epitimy of fake news. And this argument is typical meltzer sometimes hes just a fucking dork when it comes to argumenting. I can show you an example if you like, like 100 examples. LETS GO I GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES:
Dave Meltzer: "They (AEW) are cold, boy are they cold and how to change that? Man, that's hard to do... Edge there (at Collision last night) and it didn't move a lot of tickets. Edge is a good performer and he's a good talker and everything like that but it's not (C.M) Punk as far as a gamechanger"
From Wrestling Observer Radio last night, while previewing the Tuesday Dynamite/NXT head-to-head on Tuesday.
He says AEW have a good card for Tuesday but WWE are loading up NXT and AEW are cold right now. He says he expected Cody but didn't expect John Cena and the Undertaker on NXT. He says this doesn't matter in the long-run though because there was a head-to-head NXT and Dynamite last year in similar circumstances and they both loaded up the show and it had no longer-term effect after that week.
He says it's going to be hard for AEW to change how cold they are right now. He says it's not the end of the world, they should get a good TV deal, he "doesn't worry about their future and all that but to get it back to where it was a year ago will be very difficult".
He says Salt Lake City, where they were for Collision last night is a very bad market for them and didn't get big ticket sales there when they were hotter. But it was only about 2500 people and Edge didn't move numbers at the end.
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Another meltzer quote:
That's my thoughts on AEW right now. Again, they built a company on the idea that they were not going to be WWE and that they were going to be fan-friendly and they should be judged by that standard. [People say] "you can't judge them like a sport, they're not sport" well they're trying to be a sport and you can judge them by sport. If you want to say "you can't judge them by sport" then ok- let's judge them by pro wrestling. What would a pro wrestling promotion do in this situation? What would New Japan do? We already know what New Japan would do:- they would tell you the day of what happened and why. They might not tell you everything, they might hold some stuff back but they will certainly tell you if they're not on the show and this is how long for. With Kota I bushi it's like we don't know when he's going to be back, we all understand that, but they didn't pretend it never happened. They did make a mistake in advertising him for the NJ Cup and I think it was a communication issue as it's so against what that promotion is to do that. It ended up all coming out and it made New Japan look stupid. It's not just New Japan; All Japan, NOAH or any independent group. On any independent show when a named guy is pulled from their show they go right on the internet and they tell you. They'll say "this guy is pulled from the show", whether they give you the reason or not is one thing but they will tell you.
I just think AEW should live up to the standard of at least second level pro wrestling.
BRO so tell me what is this...
This is real critique so dont tell these fake news that cornette always going to drop but just read how much he critiques AEW. I can post you 100 other examples
Dave reminds me of my friend who got mad at me when I told him the stories and booking made no sense and told me I had to watch “Being The Elite” to fully understand AEW better.
CM Punk being back in WWE has not only made Tony Khan fearful for his life, but had made Uncle Dave go more batshit crazy
Not really, this is not a new issue, it's just an old issue with a new coat of paint, this is the same as the whole storylines being based off of social media posts, and skits on Being The Elite, Dave is an obsessive compulsive who follows all that stuff, so he thinks everyone else should also, he does not nor ever will realise or accept that he's an oddity, and not the average viewer.
God I love Dave's take of "I learned how to watch AEW correctly. All these other people who's lives don't exist around wrestling 24/7 need to get with the program." Really sends home the message that AEW is built for the casual fan. Someone who just wants to watch some weekly pro wrestling.
But AEW isn't built for casual fans, it's built for the hardcore fans who only care about "dream matches" and not proper storylines
@@MrSniperfox29 I think Saddler's being sarcastic...
@@MrSniperfox29I think it was meant to say isn't, and it's just a typo
@@dizzygunnerI hope so
I only watch AEW. I don't have time to watch WWE, IMPACT, AEW, NJPW, AAA and all the other promotions. I got stuff to do. In all those I prefer AEW and that's why it's the only one I watch. I'm not a hardcore fun but I like how AEW does stuff, not all the time, but I like it. Most importantly, I like the roster.
Jim and Brian laughing their asses off.
Freakin Gold
The whole world that’s not a mark knows he’s a mark
Laughing at Other People Laughing
@@coryfusting9294LOPFL
What's the next show? What's the movie going to be next week? 🤣🤣
Uncle Dave comparing AEW's embarrassing play wrestling to shoot sports has to be the low point of his entire career. So hilarious 😂😂😂
🎯
How dare he say that 😭😭
Who gonna tell em that they’re not the same thing? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
He's pretty much Tony Khan's knight lol
@@davechaudhary Alvarez did and Dave kept ignoring him 😂😂
Dave acting like they can’t just book the show to not go over time is hilarious 😂
It would be like Lorne Michaels not being able to control saturday night live from going over time. There's no difference
This is literally one of the funniest clips in a long time, I'm dying listening to them argue.
Alvarez is speaking just basic facts and Uncle Dave is speedrunning nonsense AEW defense and acting like it's not a scripted show.
“Make the Matches shorter”
Dave: Not part of the Plan
“Have an overrun built in”
Dave: Not Part of the Plan
“People miss the show”
Dave: thats YOUR fault not AEW’s
Alvarez stealing Jims line, "It's not my job!" Lmfao
Bryan Alvarez has been a bit more critical of AEW this year. He didn't think the build for that 4 pillars match was good. He questioned AEW's storytelling recently. He even felt the MJF angle at Full Gear didn't need to be so complicated. It says a lot when even he is questioning the constant overruns.
It makes Dave sound like even more of a blind, partisan hack.
and he completely took the piss out of that spot with the guy on the bicycle.
Bryan's dumbass finally sees the light.
He also called out AEW fans but Dave was real quiet about it when Bryan was discussing the issues with him
He's hedging his bets in case he needs to abandon ship
I can't believe I live in the world where Alvarez is right on an issue.
Debate Dave Meltzer enough and it’s bound to happen…
Didn't he rate a TNA match minus five stars once? I think it was Sharmel vs a stripper.
U also live in the world where punk is in wwe
Alvarez used to be right on plenty of stuff before 2019.
It's amazing what the AEW "tulip mania" has done to some people's minds.
@@chadkirk150It was actually minus five stars though. Sharmell Vs. Jenna Morasca isn't even a so bad it's good match, it's an actual chore to sit through the entrances and the actual match.
11:23 Dave’s defence of Tony is “he doesn’t know how long his show is.” Thats the definition of incompetence.
I lost it at 4:20 “Ok but but that means, What dat meeeans is, is daat” 🤣and Cornette just blasting him on the background “humalahumalahumala”💀🤣🤣🤣
Meltzer is such an inarticulate, fumfering stooge…….
People PAY for his writing on wrestling?
Dave's dug in really hard here.
What do you expect? He has made an emotional (and financial) investment in Tony Skywalker as being the prophecied one who will battle Vince Palpatine and Darth Levesque. It is part of his identity, like MAGA republicans. He can't let it go.
This is his hill, and he’ll die on it if he wants to.
Yeah, definitely haha.
Dave IS really hard…he is talking AEW and thinking of their shower room
Omg, Brian and Jim just dying of laughter in the background made this entire thing just golden. This might be my new favorite Jim Cornette video. If Steven P New would go to bat for me like Dave does for AEW, I'd pay the man whatever he wanted.
Might be one of the few videos where they laughed harder than me and I was laughing pretty hard.
@@QAZ-OMENthe background laughter is the best part Lol. Made me laugh even harder.
It’s a masterpiece
@@semyaza555 lmaoooo exactly especially Cornette
Next for the omnibus of comedy
Never in my life would I ever have thought I would ever hear Dave condescend to Brian Alvarez, they're both on the same strata as far as I'm concerned, but man, hearing Dave light the torch against Brian for disagreeing? Absolute insanity and hilarious.
If you ever compare how Meltzer treats Bryan Alvarez to how Jim treats Brian Last, it's night and day. Jim actually respects his co-host and doesn't treat him like a child.
I truly believe that Alvarez wants to just enjoy a real wrestling program. And Dave is literally saying No, you shouldn't....which is Goddamn snake eating it's own tail logic
They've had loads of disagreements like this over the years, where Bryan struggles to get a word in edge ways, making a perfectly sound point. It's always entertaining but makes you feel sympathy for Bryan. Jim's audience/'cult' just get's rather selective experience of their output, like how the AEW fanatics are only exposed to the clips of Cornette that fan the flames...
he's done it before
@shindean "real wrestling program", yet he gets on his knees for the bucks and their crop. While hating on legitimate pro wrestlers like Austin Theory and and Randy Orton, you know guys who actually can wrestle and look like somebody. Stop being delusional, boy.
Bryan Alvarez face turn ✅
I went to Smackdown last week in Brooklyn and not only did they end on time- but they managed to fit two in-house main events in. The whole event ended just before 10:30pm while NYC transit still had express services available. You mean to tell me WWE can do a live tv show and two extra matches in two in a half hours….but AEW can’t either cut segments or shorten their matches so that they can end on time? 😂
"This person says that Pro Sports do have a 30 minute overrun built in, so they actually do have it for live sports."
"So they should do it here."
"YES!"
I haven't had a belly laugh like that in ages, my God, what a complete waste of time this would have been without Cornette and Last.
honestly there's a point in my life where I used to listen to their channel, and alvarez is the one who kept me interested. Sure they say some dumb shit but he was 100% on point here lol. Dave blaming the viewers for not recording the next show is actually insane
The condescension from Dave is infuriating. He's just so dismissive.
"You're not a sports fan."
I would've reached through the computer and throttled him.
If I were Bryan, i would have slap Uncle Dave and walked out, telling him to go record himself if he is so defensive
Then their own chat points out that sports actually do account for an overrun and Dave just handwaves it. Can't make this shit up. 🤣
Yeah it’s made even worse when his own logic isn’t even consistent. “OMG why can’t you see this?! NXT doesn’t miss the overrun because they call the network! But AEW can’t do it because it’s like a sports event. And their matches are long because they don’t want them to go 5-7 minutes! But it’s the fans’ responsibility because AEW doesn’t know when the matches will end”! 🙄
Its typical gaslighter behavior.
I love the part where he says “sports fans don’t DVR games” What? I do because after work I always work out at our gym at our office and by the time I get home the Met or Penguin game is always in progress so I DVR it. Got the feeling this is the case for alot of other ppl as well. What a condescending douche Meltzer has become
My favorite part is Dave going "Bryyyyannn...Bryyyyaaaan" at 13:48 😂😂😂
Edit: Honorable mention to Dave going "No, no, no, no no" in a high pitched voice at 11:26
Also, Brian losing it at 7:36 kills me lol
Yes 😂😂
God, Dave sounds so whiny and desperate there. Like he’s *begging* Bryan to stop pointing out so many obvious holes in his idiotic argument.
reminded me of "gary....gaaaarrrrry" from fallout 3.
"Bryaaaaan, BRYYYYAAAAAN 🎶 🎵 "
Had me dying
Such an annoying human being
hahah my favorite part
Would be great if TK presented AEW like the sport Dave thinks it is.
Ironically, this exchange was *FAR* more entertaining than Dynamite.
When Brian Alvarez is talking more Logic than you then you know you're delousuinal
Davelutional?
I don’t get this. Bryan is usually level head
@@Punkinlunk your head cant be screwed on right if you like the buckaroos and their gymnastics.
18:40 is what we were all waiting for. New respect for Mr. Alvarez
I've never disliked Bryan Alvarez - even when I disagree, he argues his point well enough that I mostly respect it.
Compared to Dave, he's an Oxford University lecturer.
I think Alvarez is a smug dork, and when it comes to certain wrestlers, he clearly has an axe to grind, but he’s definitely the more reasonable one of the two.
bryan is a weasel, but he can be rational about 20% of the time. he has done his fair share of spin doctoring for AEW in the past.
Imagine putting a near-25 year friendship on the line all because you feel the need to defend your favorite wrestling company?
Dave has become the biggest saddest joke in pro wrestling journalism
Take out ‘pro wrestling’…and you are STILL correct
Not really. Most of the "wrestling journalists" are running damage control for AEW.
Not really, they all quote and parrot Meltzer like he is credible.
He’s always been a joke
Meltzer really believes that wrestling is real and unplanned
That's what makes me laugh at Dave being so intentionally obtuse. Wrestling is scripted unlike live sports. If your wrestling show consistently goes over time it's because you poorly organized it.
Bryan has some bad takes sometimes, but he's not nearly as delusional as Dave is. 😂
No one on planet earth is as delusional as Dave. Fuck, even with Trump, reasonable people can tell it's a grift. Dave's a true believer in his shit.
Can “Dave and Bryan Arguments” be a weekly segment? Please
Fuck it at this point ill pay for this😂
I’ve watched this clip like 10 times and I still laugh when Dave says “well then they should have it here” at 18:38 after arguing against it for like 7 minutes already
He just needed to be able to blame UA-cam TV instead of AEW.
Bryan's immediate "YES!" is the icing on the cake
Meltzer would have a point if wrestling wasn’t a work. However, it’s a work, so there’s no reason for unplanned overruns.
I do not understand what Dave is missing here.
Hearing Dave and Brian talk you can tell it’s a real meeting of the minds….
If the minds had brain damage
They've got a real stream of consciousness thing going on.
@@J1R629 With lobotomies
@@J1R629Well he has been covering wrestling for decades so he obviously has suffered some head traumas.
Would that stream be urine?
The “it’s not my job part” is the same people telling you to Google the NJPW that AEW randomly introduces and doesn’t give any info on
Agreed! I've watched NJPW semi regularly in recent years, so I'm familiar with most of those guys that AEW being in. But even to me, AEW does absolutely nothing to explain why these guys are supposed to be a big deal (then usually books them in a pointless match which makes people think "why should I care about this guy?")
To be fair AEW's extremely niche audience is also the same extremely niche audience whose entire life revolves around New Japan so it makes sense they wouldn't try to actually explain who tf these people are when they bring them Stateside. Their audience already knows who they are and will throw babies in the air over em and they don't care if anyone else knows who they are bc they obviously don't care if anyone else WATCHES their show.
@@xxrocketshark216xx4the numbers say that's not true. New Japan World has maybe 100k subscribers in the US. If we add in American subscribers to their UA-cam channel, that's still only half their audience.
@@natebaxter9551 Bold of you to assume the majority of the AEW/NJPW marks actually pay for their wrestling lol
“ You’re not a sports fan and I am.” is a nice way of Dave trying win the argument he was badly losing haha. I’m glad that fan clarified and bryan called it out to Dave. Dave has to be on the AEW payroll.
I wonder if Dave was the reason why Bryan stopped being an UFC MMA fan and just watches the "big fights." Dave covers the MMA shows with "Filthy" Tom Lawlor or Garrett Gonzales now
Even if his batshit insane "AEW should be treated like a sporting event" logic made any sense, his "you're not a sports fan and I am" response is EXTREMELY condescending and annoying. I'm amazed the dude has any friends because if a friend of mine spoke to me like that once I'd think twice about hanging out with them anymore in the future. No faster way to run people off than by talking down to them.
@@xxrocketshark216xx4 yea it was a condescending response and a way to sway the argument his way with an ignorant comment. Pro Wrestling is not exactly a sport, you can end it on time and to say otherwise is just Dave protecting AEW like he always does. With the losses in money this year, Dave hasn’t covered it with any real journalistic integrity like he would with other companies. He kept pushing the narrative that AEW has a billion dollar evaluation and that they could get a billion dollar tv deal. He never once said who would buy AEW at the price or any real, credible financial source that said AEW has that value or would get that tv rights deal. Just another example of his reporting being inaccurate to try and push the AEW success narrative. I believe that he believes he can sway billion dollar companies with his yellow journalism to invest in AEW at a high price…. With losing money every year, long term injuries to their roster, nda issues, lack of sponsorship revenue, corporate reshuffling, bad press, low tv ratings and lack of a market place identity the value of AEW maybe at its lowest point just as they go into negotiations.
Dave is the type of person who ends up pushing all of his old friends away for his “new” friends.
TK booking Meltzer’s divorce from Alvarez
Sounds like he already has…Cornette being one of them
Whoa. Are we seeing a face turn from Alvarez?
I think so!
I would be ok if this became a weekly segment. This was hilarious
😂😂😂 right "Dave and Brian arguments "
Listening to Bryan and Dave argue is the equivalent of the old Turtles in Time Super Nintendo game where you fought Bebop and Rocksteady on the pirate ship and the two morons would start fighting and hitting each other for no reason.
That's a *really* specific comparison.
😂🤣😂
Awesome comparison
That's absolutely hilarious
Great game
My thoughts exactly lol
The argument that Dave advances of live sport vs scripted programming is literally the most brain cell killing thing I’ve heard in long time. I mean wow!
Omg i lost it at "ITS NOT MY JOB" 😂😂
When was the last time there was a large overrun in UFC or Bellator? Fights have time-limits and they're usually killing time between quick finishes.
There is a reason live sports have those postgame show in case they need to fill time that are afforded for OT, even then it's not perfect.
Maybe a stray 1 or 2 ultimate fighter cards from back in the day when they were on Spike TV. But that's going back to pre UFC 100 days lol
I literally haven’t missed a UFC card in at least 5 years. They NEVER go over. They’re usually far UNDER because of fights ending quickly and they have to use video and commentary to fill the time. Dave is a dingbat.
Dave thinks he's logically defending AEW here lmfao
I beg you. Please do more of this. Hearing you laughing over this conversation was the highlight of my week.
This is becoming one of my go-to clips for whenever I need some levity.
Holy shit was this hilarious! Dave's sad attempts at defending that absurd company have officially reached new levels. The ultimate mark.
Has Uncle Dave forgotten that pro wrestling is a work? Yeah theres overrun sometimes for basketball and football and actual non-worked sports, but wrestling is all planned from beginning to end.
RAW was constantly overrunning in the 90s.
@@duckmercy11that comeback is ‘GREAT’, tiny cuckhan…
DORK
@@duckmercy11they were planned, not happening on the fly like Dave himself admitted here
@duckmercy11 and DVR was in its infancy. If you taped it, you could easily set it to tape longer.
These guys comparing a predetermined show vs a live sports event is crazy
“I’m not here to make money, I’m here to make friends.” - Tony Khan
This is the most hilarious clip since the punk scrum 😂😂 i keep rewatching it
The funniest part was after like 10 min of arguing, Dave agreed with Alvarez only to backtrack
Can you imagine being Dave's wife and having to deal with this kind of stubborn illogical arguing
No wife…left her for AEW locker room post-shows
They split last year. He's now dating (or was) another woman hence the reason why he's colored his hair!!!
@@MysticKebabare you sure it isn’t Jacqueline Perry, or an affair with one of the ‘young cucks’??
Maybe the star of ‘sissy boy slap fights’ on UA-cam?? The ‘GREAT’ (like all things AEW, according to highly ‘medicated’ tiny cuckhan) Kenneth Omega???
If this doesn’t prove he’s on the payroll nothing will. Tony wanted to hire Jim too for positive coverage on AEW when they started. Jim said no, Dave said yes.
And considering the narrative that certain wrestling channels always have towards aew, despite the garbage they produce, you can see who are getting paid.
Dynamic Dude Dave Meltzer and his sidekick are having a argument. AEW defense are becoming weaker and harder to argue for and CM Punk are living rent free in their heads.
But yeah Meltzer and Alvarez are goofs
Dave is definitely on the payroll of AEW
"No, I'm gonna complain" 😂
I swear I listened to part about 10 times
Man, I am astounded. Dave argues like a 12 year old. Like he just stammers and mumbles and relies so heavily on "But... but... but no!" I am amazed.
I have never laughed harder at pure insanity from Dave.
This is like Star Trek fans arguing over whether they're Trekkies or Trekkers just geekier.
I know right? So stupid. It's obviously Trekkies.
Daves favourite Star Trek character is KHAAAAAAAAAN!
You did Trekkies dirty. We’re not that defensive of the thing we love.
A better analogy:
Dave Meltzer thinks that the "Vulcan Death Grip" is a real thing, so kids shouldn't try it at home.
@@MichaelSmith-fq6hz Chill, it's a joke.
I've listened to this twice a week since it got released. I still crack up every time.
DVR won't end on a sporting event that goes over time because it's live. The recording ends when the game ends. Wrestling is formatted for whatever time block it's set for.
First, the Elite has a lover feud that embarrassed the business, WWE shits on all dirt sheets and makes them cry because no one knew about Punk. Now even Meltzer's trained money is turning on him. He's having a bad day. They are going the need the "AEW Disciple Committee" laywers to figure out who gets custody of Meltzer and his estate at this rate. Just think what will happen if WBD does end up pick-up WWE. How can Dave's life get any worse... oh wait, Tony could lose Booker of the Year.
It’s never a problem if you just miss the entire show!
💯
Preach. I can't wait to miss it every week.😂
I've been faithfully missing AEW episodes two years. 😂
Wednesday nights are now when I bang out all the to do's around the house. Turns out I'm a better plumber than Moxley
Bryan being exasperated with Dave after Dave says oh they should have it here sent me
I actually feel bad for Bryan when he has to sit through Dave's NJPW G-1 Climax tournament breakdowns
Dave Meltzer is such a mark for AEW
I love when Dave can't rebuttal with anything because he knows he's not making sense, he just goes "Well...." 😂😂😂
He does it in the exact same way every time and it's so hilarious
As soon as he says “Here’s the deal” you just know he’s gonna give a BS answer
You have to reevaluate your entire life if you objectively get owned by Bryan Alvarez, and on your own show at that.
Jim and Brian cracking up in the background gives this a fun Morning Zoo feel.
Listening to Brian Alvarez basically tell Dave to shut up and let him finish is quite hilarious and even then he makes excuses. The simple thing is AEW is over running because all the other matches and segments probably don't stick to a strict time so by the time they get to the end it goes over by all the rest of the time wasted. Vince figured this out 20 years or so ago. Eric Bischoff used to ignore it at times until it was too late and over ran Halloween Havoc in 1998 and people didn't get the main event. It's not quite on that level but it feels like it getting there.
I recall when AEW was first starting out and Tony said they were going to learn from things that Nitro did in its presentation and how the show was structured and I think he has taken the approach literally at times.
I've listened to this a handful of times and it just continues to slay me with each subsequent listen.
Not knowing when a scripted, 2 hour show will end is a concept I didn’t know could be conjured up. Dave actually took to heart when Jerry Lawler used to say during matches for video games, “This match could go on for 60 seconds or 60 minutes.” 😂😂
Dave never lets other people talk without interrupting.
AEW does need to format their show better.
You can't claim you're like a sport when you do 2 hour long press scrums talking about how you and the person you're working with put together your match. Or about all the ideas you and "creative" came up with.
Even I learned, booking my wrestling figures as a 10 year old, if I'm going to do a "PPV", then I need to make sure all my figures matches end on time, and the "event" ends before 10 PM. And I was the only one taking in my wrestling figures' PPVs.😂😂😂
AEW creative???
‘MOX’…you blade DIRECTLY into the camera
‘Brokeback’ Page…you drink someone’s blood
‘All of you’…good luck with your floor routine gymnastics tonight.
I will be snorting my ‘meds’…if anyone needs me, I won’t be blinking.
- tiny cuckhan (weekly)
I wish I had a woman as loyal to me as Uncle Dave is to AEW.
IKR!!!
3:38 - 4:43
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10:49 - 11:49
13:03 - 15:44
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For any rewatchers who just want to hear Jim and Brian react to the Meltzer-Alvarez exchange.
Alvarez went the route of "we need to critiq AEW so they become better and learn"
while
Meltzer went the "They are always right, hey everyone you're just stupid if you dont get it"
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