Resellers have ruined my love of watch collecting. Imagine saving up for years just to find out you can't get a watch that you would wear daily unless you've already bought several other models.
I bought a datejust 41 jubilee fluted green dial and absolutely love it I could make an easy 1.5-2k profit but I just couldn’t bare selling it money comes and goes but your first luxury watch is irreplaceable.
I think if you appreciate the crown and the heritage and love watches.. every piece feels like this. I have 6 Rolexes and each one is very special to celebrate life events! And wear it proudly.. can’t even think about selling it! First purchase 2009 and glad the hype is going down…
@@hemantishwaran5741losers like you who just want to make a buck and have no appreciation for anything and just buy what is trendy becaus they lack a personality are the reason for all this hype🙄
I got the call for my desired SD43 18 mos. and was quoted 14.2K all inclusive. I called my jeweler to see what I could get if I needed to sell it, and it was hard to get him to even commit to 13k. Nope. I told the AD I’ll grab a gently used one for 10.6 and she laughed. It’s getting closer by the day.
@@OhioVworldWho is selling you a gently used one for 10.6 if a jeweller will pay you 13 for…a similar, gently used one? The jeweller needs to make a profit…so would mark it back up. If he was offering them for 10.6, he’d be buying them at 10 max. No wonder the AD laughed! If your first thought is “How much can I get if I need to sell it?”, then in reality, whilst you may have gathered the cash, you can’t actually afford it.
@ A Jeweler would OFFER 13K on a NIB watch he could LITERALLY pick up with me. That was, now, 19/20 months ago. A lot has changed in the market, and gently used versus NIBb100% is very different.
@@OhioVworld So when you say “If I needed to sell it”, what you actually meant was “I wanted to flip the watch instantly as I have no real interest in owing one, or possibly affording one”?! Nobody plans they suddenly need to sell a watch 10mins after they’ve bought it.
Interesting look from a trader's point of view. Picked up a blue dial OP from an AD recently. For the first time since I have been dealing with him (over ten years) he admitted that trading was tough at the moment. Made me wonder how other brands are selling on the high street.
With many full gold pieces being available in the AD window now, it would be good to see a comparison video. E.g. there's lots of pieces around £35k (full gold Submariner, Day-Date, GMT Master II Zombie etc) so would be good to get a comparison of them all as well as the difference in prices that the grey market dealers such as yourselves sell them for. Thanks.
Imagine buying a previous metal watch so that you can buy the poor mans stainless steel version that you have always dreamt about. Its like going to a Porsche dealer and buying a 911 Turbo so you can buy a Cayman.
@@junito1008yupp, agree. Either wait to get the watch you want at retail or a reasonable game or look for something else. And if you‘re going to buy a precious metal one, just keep that one. It‘s cooler anyway. Becaus every d!ckweed out there is rocking a steel sub, pepsi, batman or daytona anyway
@@Bisley1 I’m blessed enough to have couple of nice watches including a yellow gold sky dweller and I never ever have paid more than retail price for any of them. I cannot digest how ppl are willing to pay more for something with less value. Those Rolex with that rubber strap look nice the first month, after that, that strap looks old and nasty…in the meantime your stainless steel or gold bracelet will last for ever. I’m so secure of myself that I don’t follow trends, i wear what I like and what makes sense financially…that should be the rule of everyone.
@@junito1008Interesting isn’t it, that leather strapped watches have always fared lower in the value retention stakes…naturally because no-one really wants someone else’s sweaty, grimy leather strap with their watch. It’ll be precisely the same with these oyster steel straps. I personally believe these will age badly (both physically and in market opinion) but are being touted as valuable as they’re scarce and attached to expensive watches. Metal bracelets have lasted decades and can still look awesome. Rubber, after a few years, can look dire.
@@Thevoiceofreason84 Goldsmiths uk ,all I bought previously was a Tudor Root Beer and a solid bracelet for my Tudor North Flag, which was £800😮 lucky enough to get the Tudor Flag in an AD in Tenerife, they had one left in another showroom, new old stock so to speak
It’s funny that the GMT Pepsi in White Gold is virtually impossible to get from an AD but most grey market dealers don’t stock them because they are bad sellers 😂
@@Madeinlondon67 not sure if it's bad sellers, but rather scarcity .... At any given time, the world supply for sale is 2 dozen, maybe 3 dozen.. Contrast that with other GMT's which could have thousands...
I would like to know where these get there prices. I just brought an all yellow gold sky dweller with jubilee at my AD. They got for me within a month. To this day not a single ad on Chro24 or eBay and some google search have I found one under retail. What I don’t understand either is they said that watch was 43,800 British pounds which is $56k USD. Mine was $51k USD at the AD.
“Turn up at the golf club with a different Rolex every month”. In my case that ain’t going to happen. Firstly, I don’t play golf and neither do I wear Rolex.
ADs are just ridiculous with Rolex. You walk in wanting to throw down money. They play there’s nothing to buy. It’s bs. I can go into Breitling or Omega and walk out with a watch the same day.
Omega has Rolex beat in accuracy, why not power reserve? It seems the 10 year-old 8800 & 8900 movements should have a power reserve of at least 75 to 85 hours, no?
@@_Desma here in the uk they classed it as a ‘boutique’ piece which meant you had to have a massive spend history on their other gaudy watches, not anymore it seems, I’ve been on the list about 2 years, really love it but just can’t justify the spend at the mo especially as you can get the other colours much cheaper on the grey market the blue is dropping as well though the 2023 and 24 models not so much
I was vaguely interested in a Rolex, but after speaking to a friend of a friend, I wasn't going to waste, my time, dignity, patience or money, building up an AD 'relationship' just to get the actual overpriced item I was more interested in.
Watch out for the Halloween budget from our Labour government that’s is going to squeeze the Rolex buyer pockets ! Let’s face it it is not the uber rich who buy Rolex…..it’s the aspirational hard workers with a bit of dough to flex, no shame in that….but the market will go into free fall very soon.
I always wonder why watchtrader have so many watches without paperwork. I understand older models when there was only paper but even models that had the white card.
@@Watchtrader I will say the ones that I’ve searched. Which is I’m sure a very small fraction of your overall inventory. Not a knock was just curious. Sub Mariners, GMT, Vacheron overseas self wind. They fetched a great price nonetheless.
The beginning of this was so cringe, false and sickly I had to stop watching. I've been a regular viewer for 18 months and genuinely feel whoever watched this episode would raise an eyebrow.
We’d love to hear some constructive feedback from a regular viewer like yourself because I’m quite surprised to read your comment. The start of this video is a similar ‘coming up/trailer’ format that we usually use. Thank you
All prices are going back 2016 prices where the new watch is worth more than pre owned unless it’s collector like a moon watch, Pepsi, or etc… market is not just gonna collapse but go under a depression for the next couple of months!!!
Resellers have ruined my love of watch collecting. Imagine saving up for years just to find out you can't get a watch that you would wear daily unless you've already bought several other models.
You can’t lose buying watches if you buy what you like and don’t pretend to be a watch dealer, great chat.
Wise words, cheers Andy
Yes
Ppl will realise in due time that the all black GMT is one of the best value Rolex ever.
I bought a datejust 41 jubilee fluted green dial and absolutely love it I could make an easy 1.5-2k profit but I just couldn’t bare selling it money comes and goes but your first luxury watch is irreplaceable.
I think if you appreciate the crown and the heritage and love watches.. every piece feels like this. I have 6 Rolexes and each one is very special to celebrate life events! And wear it proudly.. can’t even think about selling it! First purchase 2009 and glad the hype is going down…
sell it and make a buck.
Sell it because Rolex prices will crash
how long did you have to wait?
any purchase history?
@@hemantishwaran5741losers like you who just want to make a buck and have no appreciation for anything and just buy what is trendy becaus they lack a personality are the reason for all this hype🙄
Rootbeer full gold everrose under 30K is a great value in my opinion.
Really, what’s the melt value?
I got the call for my desired SD43 18 mos. and was quoted 14.2K all inclusive. I called my jeweler to see what I could get if I needed to sell it, and it was hard to get him to even commit to 13k.
Nope. I told the AD I’ll grab a gently used one for 10.6 and she laughed.
It’s getting closer by the day.
@@OhioVworldWho is selling you a gently used one for 10.6 if a jeweller will pay you 13 for…a similar, gently used one?
The jeweller needs to make a profit…so would mark it back up. If he was offering them for 10.6, he’d be buying them at 10 max.
No wonder the AD laughed!
If your first thought is “How much can I get if I need to sell it?”, then in reality, whilst you may have gathered the cash, you can’t actually afford it.
@ A Jeweler would OFFER 13K on a NIB watch he could LITERALLY pick up with me.
That was, now, 19/20 months ago.
A lot has changed in the market, and gently used versus NIBb100% is very different.
@@OhioVworld So when you say “If I needed to sell it”, what you actually meant was “I wanted to flip the watch instantly as I have no real interest in owing one, or possibly affording one”?!
Nobody plans they suddenly need to sell a watch 10mins after they’ve bought it.
Just rocking a Patek Phillipe worldtimer
Great content keep it up
Thanks for letting us know!
What if you go into the AD and pretend to want something that you have no interest in? Maybe then they will try to sell you what you actually want.
Thinking outside the box 😂
Absolutely bang on with the meteor dial GMT 👌
What a watch it is
Guys whats your opinion on a rolex sd4k 116600 as a future classic
Is there a difference in second hand prices for rose gold and yellow gold ( both mixed with steel ) 36 datejust ?🙂
Interesting look from a trader's point of view. Picked up a blue dial OP from an AD recently. For the first time since I have been dealing with him (over ten years) he admitted that trading was tough at the moment. Made me wonder how other brands are selling on the high street.
Thanks for sharing, we appreciate the feedback
I enquired about an explorer 40 yesterday at an AD and was told " be prepared to wait 12 months, but it could arrive next week "
Explorer 40 are easy to acquire in U.S.
Got offered one at an AD this week in London. Always worth asking.
Are you ready to buy it now?
They are just hyping it up to make it look it's hard to get.
I was in London last week, cookie monster available but who wants to buy that at AD price. Same condition outside is 30% cheaper
With many full gold pieces being available in the AD window now, it would be good to see a comparison video. E.g. there's lots of pieces around £35k (full gold Submariner, Day-Date, GMT Master II Zombie etc) so would be good to get a comparison of them all as well as the difference in prices that the grey market dealers such as yourselves sell them for. Thanks.
Appreciate the suggestion, we’ve made note 👌
@@Watchtrader Thanks!
Decent video lads 👍
Thanks for letting us know
I’m in the U.S, but would you still be open to selling one of my watches on consignment? Or should I look for a dealer in the U.S.?
Silly question
Imagine buying a previous metal watch so that you can buy the poor mans stainless steel version that you have always dreamt about.
Its like going to a Porsche dealer and buying a 911 Turbo so you can buy a Cayman.
These companies are lol on these ppl’s faces…how can someone consider to pay way more for a plastic strap than a gold bracelet? 🤔 really D U M B
@@junito1008yupp, agree. Either wait to get the watch you want at retail or a reasonable game or look for something else. And if you‘re going to buy a precious metal one, just keep that one. It‘s cooler anyway. Becaus every d!ckweed out there is rocking a steel sub, pepsi, batman or daytona anyway
@@Bisley1 I’m blessed enough to have couple of nice watches including a yellow gold sky dweller and I never ever have paid more than retail price for any of them. I cannot digest how ppl are willing to pay more for something with less value. Those Rolex with that rubber strap look nice the first month, after that, that strap looks old and nasty…in the meantime your stainless steel or gold bracelet will last for ever. I’m so secure of myself that I don’t follow trends, i wear what I like and what makes sense financially…that should be the rule of everyone.
@@junito1008Interesting isn’t it, that leather strapped watches have always fared lower in the value retention stakes…naturally because no-one really wants someone else’s sweaty, grimy leather strap with their watch. It’ll be precisely the same with these oyster steel straps. I personally believe these will age badly (both physically and in market opinion) but are being touted as valuable as they’re scarce and attached to expensive watches.
Metal bracelets have lasted decades and can still look awesome. Rubber, after a few years, can look dire.
@d734-wy8kx I agree 😁
I don’t need a car but I have one so does that mean I drive a luxury car? 😂
good natured chat
Cheers Ben
Great stuff 'H'. We should be organizing a trip up to the toon soon, so hopefully we can meet up for a quiet few! ;-)
Appreciate it Greg, that would be nice! Give me a heads up, when it’s in the calendar.
Been waiting 3 years for a black dial non date sub😢 fro. A major retail dealer
Can't go wrong with the 116520 black dial.
Got a Root Beer from AD in Dec expect a Bruce Wayne this year
How much spend history ? Which AD (not branch )
@@Thevoiceofreason84 Goldsmiths uk ,all I bought previously was a Tudor Root Beer and a solid bracelet for my Tudor North Flag, which was £800😮 lucky enough to get the Tudor Flag in an AD in Tenerife, they had one left in another showroom, new old stock so to speak
still can't walk in and buy many Rolex watches ... even some gold models... ever try to buy a GMT Meteorite dial Pepsi?
It’s funny that the GMT Pepsi in White Gold is virtually impossible to get from an AD but most grey market dealers don’t stock them because they are bad sellers 😂
@@Madeinlondon67 not sure if it's bad sellers, but rather scarcity .... At any given time, the world supply for sale is 2 dozen, maybe 3 dozen.. Contrast that with other GMT's which could have thousands...
I would like to know where these get there prices. I just brought an all yellow gold sky dweller with jubilee at my AD. They got for me within a month. To this day not a single ad on Chro24 or eBay and some google search have I found one under retail. What I don’t understand either is they said that watch was 43,800 British pounds which is $56k USD. Mine was $51k USD at the AD.
Its can't be that long before the full gold pieces start to get a discount at the Ads, just like not so long ago.
Refreshingly honest... no BS. Good work!
Thanks for letting us know
Love the chat, but looking for the "deal of the week, deal of the week, deal of the week!" Oh, and Hendo too!
Appreciate the feedback. More of the usual stuff to come soon
what watch is stuart wearing? looks fantastic
“Turn up at the golf club with a different Rolex every month”. In my case that ain’t going to happen. Firstly, I don’t play golf and neither do I wear Rolex.
Do you see many fakes and how do you ensure they’re legit.
We rarely see them. Not many people have the audacity to try and sell one to a professional dealer. We check the watches in our workshop.
@@Watchtrader many thanks 👍
ADs are just ridiculous with Rolex. You walk in wanting to throw down money. They play there’s nothing to buy. It’s bs. I can go into Breitling or Omega and walk out with a watch the same day.
Enjoyable video guy's
Stuart needs to stop interrupting and try to waffle less.
Omega has Rolex beat in accuracy, why not power reserve? It seems the 10 year-old 8800 & 8900 movements should have a power reserve of at least 75 to 85 hours, no?
Omega and Rolex accuracy is basically the same. Rolex guaranteed range is 4 seconds and Omega is 5 seconds.
Qu for Stu, I got offered the Overseas blue from the AD , I declined but I’ve heard that there is zero interest for this on the secondary market?
There’s a 1 year wait I was told for blue dial Vacheron self winding from AD in Chicago.
@@_Desma here in the uk they classed it as a ‘boutique’ piece which meant you had to have a massive spend history on their other gaudy watches, not anymore it seems, I’ve been on the list about 2 years, really love it but just can’t justify the spend at the mo especially as you can get the other colours much cheaper on the grey market the blue is dropping as well though the 2023 and 24 models not so much
'steathy' meteorite GMT.
I was able to get one last year, been trying for another but I’m sick and tired of kissing ass for a watch. I’m over it.
I was vaguely interested in a Rolex, but after speaking to a friend of a friend, I wasn't going to waste, my time, dignity, patience or money, building up an AD 'relationship' just to get the actual overpriced item I was more interested in.
Watch out for the Halloween budget from our Labour government that’s is going to squeeze the Rolex buyer pockets ! Let’s face it it is not the uber rich who buy Rolex…..it’s the aspirational hard workers with a bit of dough to flex, no shame in that….but the market will go into free fall very soon.
If the market goes in to free fall then it's better for the aspirational hard workers as they'll be able to get them under retail... I.e cheaper
@@RichMitchit’s insane they have been above retail. It’s good the price is dropping
@@brettarmer3584 absolutely
Expert FC 🙄
I always wonder why watchtrader have so many watches without paperwork. I understand older models when there was only paper but even models that had the white card.
Nearly all of our stock has paperwork. Where is it that you get that impression from?
@@Watchtrader I will say the ones that I’ve searched. Which is I’m sure a very small fraction of your overall inventory. Not a knock was just curious. Sub Mariners, GMT, Vacheron overseas self wind. They fetched a great price nonetheless.
stu looks on deaths door , bless him
I’ve got a 12 day old Rolex Submariner Starbucks for sale dated 11/10/2024. I’m after £11250 if anyone is in the market for one
So there stuck with load of over priced Tick Tocks!
The beginning of this was so cringe, false and sickly I had to stop watching.
I've been a regular viewer for 18 months and genuinely feel whoever watched this episode would raise an eyebrow.
We’d love to hear some constructive feedback from a regular viewer like yourself because I’m quite surprised to read your comment. The start of this video is a similar ‘coming up/trailer’ format that we usually use. Thank you
All prices are going back 2016 prices where the new watch is worth more than pre owned unless it’s collector like a moon watch, Pepsi, or etc… market is not just gonna collapse but go under a depression for the next couple of months!!!
How the heck ppl pay more for a watch with a rubber strap than one with precious metal bracelet ?? SMH Unbelievable how easy ppl get brainwashed !!
Steel and gold rolex bands look like steel and urine. They should have a rose gold version.
I am so-o-o sick of hearing about the Rolex Pepsi. How hard would it be to make a Rolex video without specifically mentioning it? Impossible?
Lol
@@ojwhittle4960 I don't think it's funny.
Who comes up with all these stupid rolex names? Bruce wayne ffs 🤷♂️
So boring to watch this video. Make it fun guy. Have some humor in it.
What sort of people are buying these watches? Ugly and cost a fortune. Are the ‘men’ buying watches and living with their mothers?
Nothing new to glean from this thread.
Market is softer but there are still some Rolex timepieces that go for a premium