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cEDH Monocolor Deck Battle | Ragavan VS Heliod VS Magda VS K'rrik

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 108

  • @daniellambeth6769
    @daniellambeth6769 11 місяців тому +42

    "apparently he thought I'd cut that" lmfao

  • @matthewsommerman5060
    @matthewsommerman5060 11 місяців тому +159

    Jerry couldn't cast Tibalt's Trickery because of Paladin class

    • @OhSarcasticOne
      @OhSarcasticOne 11 місяців тому +11

      I had to pause the video to see that 22:28

    • @josiahsantos6286
      @josiahsantos6286 11 місяців тому +12

      So Alex won😂

    • @Duskraven377
      @Duskraven377 11 місяців тому +8

      Alex won this game. I call for a post-game victory mark on mono-W’s tally 🎉

  • @akroma2170
    @akroma2170 11 місяців тому +54

    Turn 1 with Ragavan is a perfect example of why you should tutor in the endstep and not lose the best combo in your deck for no reason

  • @ThatBeardedGuy0103
    @ThatBeardedGuy0103 11 місяців тому +2

    Keep up the awesome uploads, also breaking the fourth wall with the edits to such a nice touch.

  • @f3aterfall
    @f3aterfall 11 місяців тому +5

    i choked at 'stax: the little black dress of mono whtie'...dear editor thank you so much for your work

  • @allhailbolas
    @allhailbolas 11 місяців тому +5

    as usual, editing on this is hilarious

  • @najeelasnewboo
    @najeelasnewboo 11 місяців тому +49

    Definitely wouldn't have cast the ballista. Leaving it exile means Sevinne's and recommission can't get it back if it hits the grave

    • @WarmasterSidious
      @WarmasterSidious 10 місяців тому +2

      Or what about casting an instant speed tutor on your turn against a ragavan. These aren’t the most brilliant players.

    • @markbradshaw3066
      @markbradshaw3066 9 місяців тому

      With a Magda at the table it wasn't a terrible idea imo. I think there is an argument for both.

  • @JJMickeyMedia
    @JJMickeyMedia 11 місяців тому +3

    Did you know Tibalt's Trickery can switch a video to 0.25 playback speed? There's always something new to learn about this game!

  • @natalialialia964
    @natalialialia964 11 місяців тому +19

    Both of eliot's tutors early game probably should have gotten dockside. This pod folds pretty easily to portal to phyrexia. Depending on the turn, cavern hoard to counterfeit K'rrik or heliod would also be incredible. The Imp recruiter for automaton was pretty loose-magda isn't a turbo deck, and needs to be able to win through one or two removal spells. Loved the game.

    • @enricus2479
      @enricus2479 11 місяців тому +1

      I was like, "YES, that's 5 treasures baby just cast Magda again and the Dockside you obviously gambled for... but then he didn't"

    • @mandielyn0416
      @mandielyn0416 11 місяців тому

      I love this new flash version of Heliod. The consistency of having four flash enablers completely changes the deck and I love it!

    • @lu847
      @lu847 11 місяців тому

  • @soxfan9551
    @soxfan9551 11 місяців тому +3

    Love this channel!

  • @IxWxSxProud
    @IxWxSxProud 11 місяців тому +2

    I heard Mambo Number Gandalf and spit my coffee all over my monitor. Thanks Alex ❤

  • @nicoalmachannel
    @nicoalmachannel 11 місяців тому +2

    Following your channel from Argentine... really like your matches!

  • @hicria
    @hicria 4 місяці тому

    Jerry waiting for his turn to speak man you didnt had to do it dirty :D

  • @Egovinco98
    @Egovinco98 11 місяців тому +3

    felt like diabolic/demonic Tutor for final parting into Necrotic ooze + asmodeus (GY) was a fine line.
    Then draw for praetors grasp as the out and get some removal for artifacts from the Red/White decks on the table. ( or dig for some way to entomb scourge familiar on the way). Dont think that was a blank jsut because of grafdiggers cage.

  • @alexmcgregor8658
    @alexmcgregor8658 11 місяців тому +5

    Never forget the Monkey

  • @wrMendax
    @wrMendax 11 місяців тому

    "He knows about all of them.... that sucks" cracked me up

  • @LanuMiwok
    @LanuMiwok Місяць тому

    Very nice, I like it very much

  • @kylemackay8970
    @kylemackay8970 11 місяців тому

    Caught this one early 😱😱

  • @BoGWoR
    @BoGWoR 5 місяців тому

    Can't watch yet but commenting out of excitement

  • @Egovinco98
    @Egovinco98 11 місяців тому +1

    2:40 lol, amazing.

  • @barryweddle7089
    @barryweddle7089 11 місяців тому +1

    Commenting to ensure there were at least 53. Enjoyed the gameplay immensely.

  • @beardlybear6528
    @beardlybear6528 11 місяців тому

    good job on winning alex

  • @ritviktrehan_ygo3536
    @ritviktrehan_ygo3536 11 місяців тому

    Where is the dockside tutor Elliot lmao 😂

  • @TheAngelRaven
    @TheAngelRaven 10 місяців тому +4

    Two top-deck tutors with a Turn 1 Dashed Rag clear as day.
    The balls.

  • @jasonandrews1770
    @jasonandrews1770 11 місяців тому +1

    Can confirm. Did say cabal pit

  • @Jjdude101
    @Jjdude101 4 місяці тому

    Fun af game

  • @twotonesmybones
    @twotonesmybones 11 місяців тому

    Alex's decklist in the description doesnt seem to match the one he played exactly, there is no gandalf in the decklist link

  • @Guest10965
    @Guest10965 11 місяців тому

    N+1/53 Comment About Paladin Class. Always appreciate seeing MonoColor

  • @wreckthereal6229
    @wreckthereal6229 11 місяців тому

    Where did Jan get his hat and where can i get one

  • @mtgaaron
    @mtgaaron 11 місяців тому +2

    @39:39 he didn't even pick it up :(

  • @PraetorGix
    @PraetorGix 11 місяців тому +2

    Funny that without blue and with monocolored decks this didn't feel like CEDH at all, but it was fun to watch regardless!

  • @markscruggs8346
    @markscruggs8346 11 місяців тому

    This was... something.

  • @jimnah-
    @jimnah- 11 місяців тому +3

    Definitely expected Magda to tutor for Clock of Omens, Maskwood Nexus, then Reckless Fireweaver, but Portal to Phyrexia is pretty good too lol
    Edit: Posted this MOMENTS before he did exactly that lol. Note to self: finish the video before commenting!

    • @ondrejbronec837
      @ondrejbronec837 8 місяців тому

      I expected him to tutor Dockside on Turn 1. Not sure if it was play to not appear as such big of a threat, but with Dockside he could have attempted a win at any point given how it works with Magda.

  • @shk241
    @shk241 10 місяців тому +1

    22:23 paladin class???

  • @Egovinco98
    @Egovinco98 11 місяців тому

    so did eliot tutor for a mox diamond? im so confused what did he gamble for?

  • @bulster
    @bulster 11 місяців тому

    Can somebody explain why grafdigger’s doesn’t stop Magda from tutoring her library? I’ve always thought they enter from the lib

    • @spemtjin
      @spemtjin 11 місяців тому +1

      It does stop magda, just only creatures. Doesn't stop noncreature artifacts

    • @ondrejbronec837
      @ondrejbronec837 8 місяців тому

      The card is surprisingly quite bad against most tutor commanders. Godo, Sisay and Magda can all win just fine with it on board.

    • @matthewtompkins4338
      @matthewtompkins4338 5 місяців тому

      @@ondrejbronec837It mainly exists in stax decks to stop breach lines and Kinnan flips

  • @smitchy657
    @smitchy657 11 місяців тому

    One of the 53 😁😆

  • @EmmanuelZavala91
    @EmmanuelZavala91 11 місяців тому

    Jan had imps mischief have deflecting swat target the mischief so wouldn’t Elliot have still been able to Imps Mischief the Solitude???

    • @cjm8836
      @cjm8836 11 місяців тому +1

      Mischief can only redirect a spell, not ability.

    • @caseyfurey1348
      @caseyfurey1348 11 місяців тому +1

      The stack looks like this:
      1. Solitude ETB targeting Magda
      2. Swat targeting Solitude ETB
      3. Mischief targeting Swat
      Mischief resolves, and changes Swat to target Mischief. Stack:
      1. Solitude ETB targeting Magda
      2. Swat targeting Mischief
      Swat fizzles since its target no longer exists. Solitude ETB resolves targeting Magda
      One small nitpick about this exchange is that Eliot shouldn’t have shared his intended new target for the Solitude ETB until Swat resolved. This might’ve influenced Jan’s decision to cast Mischief

  • @HephHoff
    @HephHoff 11 місяців тому

    I will comment about it! Try and stop me!

  • @void91g
    @void91g 11 місяців тому +1

    ❤😂🎉

  • @Z3RO458
    @Z3RO458 11 місяців тому

    so.. why did Jan have those lands in his deck? am i missing something?

    • @ondrejbronec837
      @ondrejbronec837 8 місяців тому

      He opted to play Tainted Pact, so he needs to play only a single copy of everything including basics or he risks killing himself with it. It is an interesting choice, but doesn't feel correct. K'rrik really wants the colored mana and doesn't like taking damage from his lands. The extra tutor doesn't seem worth it.

  • @fredouellet3160
    @fredouellet3160 11 місяців тому

    Why there is a gemstone mine in a mono colored deck?

    • @FunnyFunFunTime
      @FunnyFunFunTime 5 місяців тому

      For a few reasons really:
      - Tainted Pact means you do not want multiple swamps. In fact cEDH tries to run as little basic land count as feasible. So niche lands like GMine can help.
      - In cEDH 3 turns is an ample amount of time. Usually the game is over by the time the 3rd counter is removed.
      - The flexibility of access to any mana type is extremely versatile for cards like Necrotic Ooze, Praetor's Grasp.
      - K'rrik (generally speaking) is paying life instead of mana, so even the need to tap GMine each turn is not required most the time.
      - If Jan is running dredge, extra fodder in the graveyard is cool.
      - Black likes sacrifice strategies.
      - Urborg,ToY can turn it into a swamp anyway.
      - It fits a strategy of power at any cost, which is thematic for decks like K'rrik.
      - Swampwalk while usually very rare (Solkanar or Zombie Master etc), still may be relevant.
      PS: Because I have not seen Jan's exact deck list yet; I'm just going from the top of my head & I am sure there are other reasons.

  • @nodekapunk
    @nodekapunk 11 місяців тому

    Not getting krrrriiik out turn 1… what a fail! :p

  • @benmanchester7671
    @benmanchester7671 11 місяців тому +1

    To 53 comments we go!!

  • @mijiui22
    @mijiui22 4 місяці тому

    30:29 why did Alex play 2 lands?

    • @marsultor878
      @marsultor878 4 місяці тому

      He didn't, he played a land and decided to move one to the other side of his playmat.

  • @WaitWaitDontKillMe
    @WaitWaitDontKillMe 11 місяців тому

    I was told to be outraged about paladin class. Idk what that card does and obviously I'm not going to google it, as that would interrupt my unbridled outrage

  • @jacobbecicka2291
    @jacobbecicka2291 11 місяців тому

    #teamJerry

  • @Dragetsuyatamiki
    @Dragetsuyatamiki 11 місяців тому

    Im still confused why a mono red deck would run gemstone cavern.

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  11 місяців тому

      It's a 75% chance of starting the game ahead by 1 mana

    • @joeymoore6796
      @joeymoore6796 11 місяців тому +1

      The mono black gemstone mine is the one confusing me

    • @simonandersen7942
      @simonandersen7942 11 місяців тому

      Same story. Being up one mana on K'rrik can be game winning.

    • @joeymoore6796
      @joeymoore6796 11 місяців тому

      @@simonandersen7942 gemstone mine doesn't come into play for free its just a swamp you can only use 3 times

    • @simonandersen7942
      @simonandersen7942 11 місяців тому

      @@joeymoore6796 oh you said mine! Yeah not sure about that.

  • @razorskatermax35
    @razorskatermax35 10 місяців тому

    Jerry should play slicer plz

  • @MrDavidmauck
    @MrDavidmauck 11 місяців тому

    Gemstone mine, spire of industry in a mono black deck…I am so lost

    • @marsultor878
      @marsultor878 4 місяці тому

      He is playing Tainted Pact in his deck as another tutor so he is playing a bunch of different name lands so as to be able to find anything in his deck.

    • @MrDavidmauck
      @MrDavidmauck 4 місяці тому

      @@marsultor878 demonic consultation names not tainted but I guess maybe I see it…I feel like that is about as bad as you can play honestly. Just my opinion. If you had a better reason but if you are demonic for a spire of industry in a mono black deck you are already losing lol

    • @marsultor878
      @marsultor878 4 місяці тому

      @@MrDavidmauck Yes Demonic Consultation names but for Tainted Pact if you hit the same name twice for any card in the deck while looking, then Tainted Pact fizzles and you get nothing. I'm not saying he is right for running it especially in Krikk as you already run imperial seal, demonic tutor, vampiric tutor, diabolic tutor, diabolic intent, beseech the mirror, beseech the queen, and other more niche tutors. I'm just giving his reason.

    • @MrDavidmauck
      @MrDavidmauck 4 місяці тому

      @@marsultor878 oh yeah nvm I guess it is until you reveal a same name card. Yeah that also just seems bad lol

    • @MrDavidmauck
      @MrDavidmauck 4 місяці тому

      @@marsultor878 yeah I just realized taunted pact did that cause it is typically only played in decks that generally do not worry about that.

  • @Modest7787
    @Modest7787 7 місяців тому

    I know kriik was instant win and advantage

  • @asdfasgdfgsd107
    @asdfasgdfgsd107 8 місяців тому

    Why not play a blue deck like, idk urza he is pretty good.

  • @thevaultwalrus
    @thevaultwalrus 11 місяців тому

    ragavanavavavavavvavav

  • @JazTheScrewyPanda
    @JazTheScrewyPanda 11 місяців тому

    YAY... sarcasm.... 1 day to late for the KS playmat... YAY... Just saw the video.. just found out it closed yesterday.... YAY

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  11 місяців тому

      Send us an email or message on twitter and i'll see if we can still accommodate ya! 😊

    • @JazTheScrewyPanda
      @JazTheScrewyPanda 11 місяців тому

      @@TheSpikeFeeders Though it was long gone so just saw the message now. Email sent 😊

  • @nathantyrrell3824
    @nathantyrrell3824 11 місяців тому +1

    Contributing to 53 comments

  • @thew1ldcard886
    @thew1ldcard886 11 місяців тому +1

    49th comment.

  • @santajose
    @santajose 11 місяців тому

    It's the less cEDH game I have seen 😂 but still enjoyed, I guess this is the kind of interaction you have when no one plays blue

  • @lukasgade
    @lukasgade 11 місяців тому

    33:12 i believe Imp's Mischief should not be able to change Solitude's ability, as Imp's Mischief says "Target spell", and not "Spell or ability".

    • @Xubruitonutelbit
      @Xubruitonutelbit 11 місяців тому +4

      I did not, it changed Defflecting swat target

    • @lukasgade
      @lukasgade 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Xubruitonutelbit fair, I misheard ^^

  • @maxfawcett143
    @maxfawcett143 11 місяців тому

    I may be the only person who cares about this but Balthor the Defiled should have given Krrik +1/+1

  • @diegorezi5760
    @diegorezi5760 6 місяців тому

    Ragavan at cedh? Really?

  • @PraetorGix
    @PraetorGix 11 місяців тому

    None of these decks felt like Cedh honestly but the game was fun nonetheless!

    • @ondrejbronec837
      @ondrejbronec837 8 місяців тому

      The cage is quite good against K'rrik. Otherwise the deck can easily win turn 2 or even turn 1 with reanimate lines (Vilis or Broodlord). In cEDH scene I play in we usually expect the deck to have a turn 1 or turn 2 win ready when we are mulliganing and we are mostly correct. Heck just Jeweled Lotus, Swamp, Reanimate and Entomb is Turn 1 win for the deck on mull to 4.
      Also I don't know how to say it nicely but Jan doesn't seem that good of a pilot for the deck. With 2 tutors he could have easily gotten turn 3 Peer Into the Abyss with a K'rrik attack available against almost no interaction. That is like close to a goldfishing scenario for K'rrik list. Yes he might have failed since he needs some free mana and Praetor's Grasp an answer to the cage, but it was still within his power to get there and his fail case is a huge K'rrik and board full of demons and creatures.
      Of course the deck not being the optimized version also doesn't help when an opponent plays a stax piece that stops your loop and can't be removed by any card in your colors.

  • @x1PMac1x
    @x1PMac1x 6 місяців тому

    Weak coin flips on that Mana Crypt. No satisfying coin sound, either.

  • @avrohomguttman7083
    @avrohomguttman7083 11 місяців тому +1

    jan cheated by waiting for eliot to choose the new target. he asked do i get to choose the target and was given permission. once swat resolves that is when you choose new targets. the time to imps mischief is before eliot declares his new target for solitude.

    • @irt3hsaint
      @irt3hsaint 11 місяців тому +1

      Don't targets need to be declared when swat is on the stack? Which is when imps mischief needs to be played. Once swat starts to resolve, it's too late to change targets

    • @avrohomguttman7083
      @avrohomguttman7083 11 місяців тому

      deflecting swat allows you to choose new targets for the spell. the only thing it targets is the spell/ability which you are trying to re target as it resolves you will choose new targets for the spell/ability. since he could have been targeting the heliod in which case the imps mischif might not have been used.... @@irt3hsaint

    • @chrisbedrin3618
      @chrisbedrin3618 11 місяців тому +1

      Selecting targets are part of putting a spell or ability on the stack. The only things that don't select targets until after are things like clones.

    • @caseyfurey1348
      @caseyfurey1348 11 місяців тому +2

      @@irt3hsaintyes, but the only thing Swat targets is the Solitude ETB ability itself. Only as Swat resolves, after all players have passed priority, does its controller declare the new targets for the spell or ability it’s modifying

  • @veganpork7601
    @veganpork7601 6 місяців тому

    Alex it's pronounced HEE-LEE-ODD. It's derived from Helios, the Greek god of the sun and I'm sorry but you're butchering his name

  • @DarkinBladeGaming
    @DarkinBladeGaming 9 місяців тому

    Literally just plsying swamps would have been better than the K'rrik players manabase

    • @Javaisd3ad
      @Javaisd3ad 8 місяців тому

      Press X for doubt

  • @martynass
    @martynass 11 місяців тому +1

    Quite a sloppy game, mistakes and questionable plays on questionable plays over and over again :/ Magic is hard