2 IMO was tops. The story and practical effects of the first were great, but 2 is the sequel that to me made for a better movie. James Cameron did something to himself to make it a memorable masterpiece.
@@Backyardmech1 Terminator 2 was just a family action movie. There was nothing left from the horror of being chased by that relentless unstoppable machine. T1 is miles better. It never tried to be funny. Of course that doesn't mean T2 is bad on its own.
@@Wickedreptiles The new CGI looks really good, but it is still garbage because they put no effort into anything making the CGI look extra fake because it isn't believable in contrast with the silly movie. There is no quality in good looking CGI when the movie stinks. The new Terminator has amazing CGI but it feels silly and boring because the good CGI swaps back and forth between the terrible filmmaking leaving a contrast of a generic fakeness like some little kid made the movie as a joke. The 1st Jurassic Park T-rex from 1991 is way more gripping and scary than any of the new ones and makes it feel more realistic because it is executed well. The CGI looks extra fake in the new Jurassic Parks cause it looks too artificial and silly when it swaps back and forth to the real people in the scene. The contrast of really good CGI inside a bad movie makes it look fake cause it doesn't blend in well with real people and objects.
@@kitjones6896 agreed. I mean you can tell they’re using models but it’s the attention to detail to actually tell a story and not just wow you with effects. And it shows!! I feel the battle scenes more with this one.
His character was extremely important because it showed that Skynet had other "templates" for the T800 infiltrators besides the 101 model (Arnold). I like to think the T800 in this scene was the 100 or 102 model.
@brandonb3174 I always took it that Skynet just had multiple models (skin coverings) avaliable for it to use. I took it that this particular T800 covering existed at the same time as Arnold, and they were in use at the same time. It wouldn't make sense to have all your infiltrators look the same. The Resistance would catch onto that pretty quickly.
It's amazing how in the first two Terminator movies how much more realistic and horrific these future war scenes really were considering they were shot with models and low budget special effects compared to the millions of dollars they spent in crappy CGI effects in all the crap that came after T2.
@@paleo704 true about T2 budget. But the future wars scene in T2 still captured the desperation, exhaustion, fear, and futility of the human resistance. The future wars scenes in the other movies make the resistance fighters look like CrossFit athletes. Although TSalvation was ok, not great, still didn’t capture the same tone as T1 and T2.
@@jam4355 Generally speaking it's the Hollywood-ization of the apocalypse. Everything is needlessly bright, like they're actively trying to avoid making it seem like an actual war. While this would still feel like a war zone, even if you took out the robots and lazer. It's like an AI generated version of the Russo-Ukrainian War set in the 1980s.
5:17 is one component of what makes this a great movie and Cameron such a great director. The mother and daughter watching the TV set just for it to be revealed that it's burnt out and acting as a fireplace. Moments like this are all through the movie and add to the richness and believability of the world. The other sequels rely on spectacle instead of subtle world building like this.
Well said. In general Terminator '84 was well ahead of it's time. As a 2000s kid, no other Terminator films or films in general can compete with this masterpiece.
The Terminator 3 and Salvation are fine aged wine, it somehow managed to follow the timelines. The Terminator 3 is a what if Skynet didn’t stopped. Then the Salvation is a Judgement day after the nuclear fallout from Terminator 3, but it never recognized John Conor a resistance leader rather a false prophet.
I always though there was a missed opportunity to expand on the future story here. The future sequences James Cameron shows in T1 are terrifying and deserved more film time.
To be fair,we did kinda see more of the war,or well,the beginning of it in Salvation. Of course,in Salvation,humans were still using regular guns instead of energy guns,buts its worth noting that Salvation did expand more on the war
@@whosapickle he also plays the scout in the beginning of the Conan Barbarian film. Right before the attack on young conan's village. ua-cam.com/video/FEp76ppPc8o/v-deo.html
The effects of the future weapons was better realised than most have done since. I always loved that near-instant-bullet speed of the shots. It always seems like other takes on how laser blast or plasma guns work is like the shots could be easier dodged than a bullet - meaning basically impossible.
A timeless sci-fi thriller with elements of action, suspense, horror and romance. 80s cinema at its finest and still holds up well today. My personal favorite Terminator flick although T2 is equally a masterpiece and I like Terminator Salvation for it's post apocalyptic setting.
yea, Salvation was good, it was what we needed to link the stories, the begings of the war, when humans were not driven totally underground, and felt like they had a fighting chance.
Everyone's talking about how this looks better than "cgi", and I don't fully disagree, but I think there's more to it than that. While I do agree that practical effects on the set should be used, assuming a movie has the budget for it and its safe, I think the problem with some movie's effects (Not just newer ones, there's old ones like this too) is the movement, lighting, and the overall direction of scenes. To add on to this further, one thing I love about these future scenes (mad max does a good job of this too imo) is that every prop, costume, and location is extremely detailed and makes the world feel "real". I could care less how the effects are done, whether its with models or made completely in post, as long as it remains consistent with the narrative and emotion of the film. Take something like Revenge Of The Sith for example. So much of that movie is "CGI", however, its used consistently throughout the film and still has an insane amount of detail put into it, and it makes sense why they'd need to use "CGI" for such an insane spectacle. Anyway, in a nutshell, I don't think "CGI" is inherently bad. I think it has more to do with how much direction was given to the teams working on it and the tone of the movie.
I personally feel Terminator 2-4 show just how well CGI can be utilized say what you will about Rise and Salvation but the effects were still amazing before the franchise truly went down the path of no return
The Terminator that infiltrated the base was played by Dr. Franco Columbu, a friend and training partner of Arnold. Franco also wrote books on sports nutrition and diet that are still relevant to this day.
I don’t think they died, it was a dream of the future by Sarah Connor. So it didn’t happen, at least that’s what I tell myself, no doggo should ever die.
The scene showed how lethal even a single T800 was once it got into a base. Makes you wonder how Reese escaped because it apparently wiped put the whole base except him.
The level of gritty ness and ambiance, is top notch, I don’t know if any movie will ever come close to inducing the fear and just general dread but also the coolness that these scenes dripppp, they need to give us a series based on this exact timeframe instead of the BS we’ve been getting
This is the first time we got to witness Jim Cameron at his finest. His genius to squeeze a ground breaking movie out of $6.4 million is testimony to his legendary ruthless approach to his work.
Innit. As a kid of 13 when this came out, the one part I always wanted more of was the future war parts because of these brief scenes and what do I get after 2? Bollocks, thats what I got. Fuckng A10s???? Wtf! Anyways, innit.
Sad we never got a proper future war movie. But we did get a fantastic game that expands the story, and gives a little more insight into Kyle Reeses life as a soldier, and that game is Terminator Resistance.
I think the reason this works is because the Terminators feel like a nearly impossible threat and the gritty hopelessness of the situation where humans have to resort to guerilla tactics to survive. Later movies everything feels too clean.
I love how the weapon for the infiltrator is a laser or plasma version of the M3 50 cal the faster helicopter version of the browning 50cal, fits as it’s a heavy weapon that fires extremely fast, perfect for a T800 unit
Terminator - Resistance The Terminator Terminator 2 - Judgement Day No more need in this universe! EDIT: The guy who is playing the Terminator in the bunker was actor, bodybuilder and Schwarzeneggers friend Franco Columbo who passed away in 2019. His face was used in the 2019 'Terminator - Resistance' game 'Infiltrator Mode'! Unfortunately he didn't was able to see himself in the finished game!
If I directed a Terminator project, it would be in this universe where, after Skynet’s end, pirates and resistance will face a more significant threat: the NAR(New Atlas Republic)
The problem is that T2 ended the time loop. The Skynet-dominated world didn't arise. If anything, I hated how T3 made all the sacrifices in T2 in vain.
Just wish that in my lifetime we get a proper future war movie trilogy movie that ends with the destruction of Skynet central core and the T-800 being sent back in time to kill John.
Love how so much of Reese’s flashbacks are recreated in Terminator Resistance, especially the HK chase, 1-to-1, in the DLC. The moment I saw the shelter, I knew the infiltrator’s surprise attack would happen inevitably.
This is still the best depiction of the future war in the Terminator universe. Why? You don't just step in the open when you're fighting against aimbots. You make extensive use of cover. Even T2 couldn't get that right, let alone the other movie wrecks that came after it. That or if a Terminator manages to infiltrate a base, that base is or will be gone in short order. Lastly, the plasma bolts look and feel powerful and FAST as hell, not the pew pew pew laser they became in the later movies.
Visually they looked better in T-2, but I prefer how they looked in here, besides I think the plasma bolts in the final part of this video definitely looked more dangerous in the bunker scene than the top side action scenes in this video, I still saw the pew pew laser's you mentioned, but yeah.
@@dinorocker8647 I prefer the ones fired by the HK tanks because if you download the vid and then view them frame by frame, you can easily see the bright purple plasma 'bolts' or pulses followed by the dimmer purple trail . In the subsequent movies, while the battles may look visually better but they are only because they are clearer without the grimy grainy look in T1 not to mention that the plasma bolts in T2 do appear to travel slower and look more like generic laser bolts. Here, they seem to just streak through the length of the screen in a blink. Oh, did I mention that in T2, the bolts also appear to curve? That's just silly.
@@volrath77 Well yeah I noticed that too without slowin' the video down, but I was referrin' to the stray odd ones that came from nowhere, and as far as the ones from T-2 go, the curve was an optical enhancement 'cause I think Cameron thought the one's from the first film weren't as good, but I agree the HK's plasma bolt's weren't as spectacular as the ones in T-2, but they actually look better and more dangerous.
@@dinorocker8647 Opps, clicked the wrong response. Heh. Rectified. Anyway...eah, that's what I was referring to because in the later movies, they look just like lasers in other sci-fi instead of maintaining this particular style used in T1 because whether Cameron realized it or not, they're partly responsible for...impressing on us just how bonkers the future war really is. They certainly did it for me, IMHO.
@@volrath77 Yeah T-2 had a really BAD ASS future war, which I caught a brief glimpse of in the T.V. section of my old Sears shortly after it left theaters in '92 and it blew my 6 yr old mind, but yeah I actually prefer the look of the future war from the original film and T-1 over T-2.
Kyle Reece most underrated gun fighter in movies. Unloads tube after tube of shells into a fearless hulking german robot. While the terminator misses him every time. Pretty bad ass.
The future war scenes gave T1 an atmosphere on par with Escape From New York. Something that T2 couldn't keep up with. And yet T2 is the best movie ever.
This was the movie that really fired my imagination. It wasn't so much the effects themselves but the use of effects to compliment the dark horrific back-drop while the futility of our heroes is played out in a story where time travel is key , revolutionary.
Seeing the final assault on Skynet that Reese tells us about in the movie, that was beyond amazing to participate in. Made me wish that Terminator Salvation had gotten its sequels so the trilogy could culminate in that scene.
In T1 the apocalyptic future is as real as it gets. Nobody is clean. Nobody is jacked. People are starving clinging on too existence. And Kyle and the other soldiers looked worn out as fuck.
@@Thomasgrey-r2y But nobody else has that much bulk. Anyone covering up that much should raise suspicion. And what would be the point of making a complete human form if most of it is covered up? I know I'm nitpicking but this was one massive flaw with the terminator premise, other than how Skynet could've just cooked up a virus to wipe out humanity.
@ i mean we can play hypotheticals all day but just working with the most obvious things. If skynet was true AI it would have offered free and to good to be true foods or water that was poisoned with a bio weapon like you touched on
@@Maharv55 Same here, visually this looked a little better in areas, but even with the non remastered versions of this film with the stereo mix, it just didn't work, I loved that the sound used for Arnolds AMT Red Ball .45 was the sound for Dirty Harry's .44 Magnum.
Supposedly Franco, (the future Terminator) is the same T-800 Infiltrator model like Arnold. Some sources like the novel and a game have him as a T-700. The first model with living tissue, but the optical sensors aren't as good as the T-800. (Hence the glaring red eyes at the end.)
One of my prize possessions is an early DVD release of this movie. No alterations, no menus, no ADVERTISEMENTS. You put it in player and it just starts. Its not as clear as this update but thats fine because they didnt alter the audio. Its just as hard hitting as when it was played in the theatres the first time. I feel like this new audio is lacking and softer somehow. Still a great movie but the visuals and sound should work together.
Shame that even in the HD version they STILL didn't fix the fuck up in the police station where Arnie fires his shotgun but they play the 'ratatatat!' Of the machine gun instead
Terminator Resistance NAILED this atmosphere and presentation. A severely underrated game with an awesome story that makes it the 3rd terminator movie we should have gotten!
Looking back on it, the success of T2 derailed what maybe should have been the natural course of the franchise. This movie would have worked perfectly as the first of a trilogy -- the first act in a three act play, just like the original Star Wars trilogy. The first movie sets up the whole story and does end with a victory for the good guys, the second movie establishes the extremely high stakes (by having the bad guys get the upper hand) -- that would be the movie that shows the aftermath of the nuclear war and how close Skynet comes to wiping out humanity -- and the third movie/act has John Connor rally humankind, defeat the machines, and send his own father back to 1984. I think it would have made for an awesome trilogy, and if the Terminator franchise ever gets the talked about complete reboot, I think that's the way they ought to go. But back in 1990/91 Cameron decided to make T2 instead, with essentially the same basic plot as the first movie with one major difference: Arnold was a big, well-established movie star by then, arguably the biggest in Hollywood at the time, and T2 became a vehicle to put him into the role of hero rather than villain. It's hard to argue that wasn't the correct course to follow, as T2 is legitimately one of the greatest action films of all time, but it did close off the way the a more satisfying story arc for the sequels. T3 and Salvation were alright, but nowhere even close to as good as this movie and T2 were. As for Genisys and Woke Fate... Ugh. I prefer to forget they were ever made.
Let's face it, Terminator 2 was an excellent sequel, but at the same time it ruined everything great that Terminator 1 was by removing the depressing horror component and replacing it with a context where a robot learns humanity. Terminator was a slasher and deserved at least two more sequels before leading to what we know as Terminator 2.
Although T1 was my favorite, part of me thinks if they continued the depressing horror component then it would've been too comparable to the first movie. T2 would have had to somehow be better than the first. By giving T2 a different tone, it's not as similar and can thus be appreciated more on its own merits. The sequel definitely had fit the optimistic feel of the 90s. EDIT- T2 could've used some tweaks. The beginning future scene shouldn't have had humans running out in the open. And the tone should've been creepier when they introduced Arnold, not playing Bad to the Bone.
if you compare the first one to judgement day it does show that kyle reese has changed the future, what started as a one sided slaughter with the humans utilizing guerrilla tactics to a more relatively even matched fight
I always thought the future scenes from T1 and T2 are still the same future. T2 just shows you how it is later in the future, with humanity turning the tide.
Notice how each scenes are slow and tries to give the audience enough time to sink it in. Most holywood movies nowdays take like 1 second or 2 second scenes for everything.
James Cameron laid down the perfect blueprint for what T4 should have been, particularly in the scene where the Terminator comes busting in, and they totally blew it. I don’t know why they didn’t take more from these scenes.
T2 had a completely different feel. It was optimistic. From the beginning where humans were coming out openly to fight the machines, not skulking around like in T1. T1 simply had no hope.
![I'll be back (Police station assault) | The Terminator [Open Matte, Remastered]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/tYc2jQaM8gM/mqdefault.jpg)
The glowing red eyes of the Infiltrator always looks menacingly cool.
And so scary...
Franco columbo
@@MikhailVolochaev I was in fifth grade when Terminator came out on VHS, and the Infiltrator gave me nightmares for a month lol.
Anime Jin Roh had to have used it as inspiration for their design
@@knoz5688 I was just gonna say that but decided to read the comments first. 😂. Arnold got rolls for his Best friend ❤
Nothing will beat the first & second Terminator movies
I went to the cinema in 1991 (or was it in 1992?) and did not know what to expect. It of course really became an awesome experience.
2 IMO was tops. The story and practical effects of the first were great, but 2 is the sequel that to me made for a better movie. James Cameron did something to himself to make it a memorable masterpiece.
The 2nd is iconic and considered the best but the 1st one stands alone in a class all to itself and is just better than all the others in certain ways
T2 was the best sequel ever made
@@Backyardmech1
Terminator 2 was just a family action movie. There was nothing left from the horror of being chased by that relentless unstoppable machine. T1 is miles better. It never tried to be funny. Of course that doesn't mean T2 is bad on its own.
40 years later and Hollywood can’t compete with these special effects. It holds up so well and is a timeless classic.
I thinks it’s more about your nostalgia. The effects are 30x better than this cgi now a days
@@Wickedreptiles The new CGI looks really good, but it is still garbage because they put no effort into anything making the CGI look extra fake because it isn't believable in contrast with the silly movie. There is no quality in good looking CGI when the movie stinks. The new Terminator has amazing CGI but it feels silly and boring because the good CGI swaps back and forth between the terrible filmmaking leaving a contrast of a generic fakeness like some little kid made the movie as a joke. The 1st Jurassic Park T-rex from 1991 is way more gripping and scary than any of the new ones and makes it feel more realistic because it is executed well. The CGI looks extra fake in the new Jurassic Parks cause it looks too artificial and silly when it swaps back and forth to the real people in the scene. The contrast of really good CGI inside a bad movie makes it look fake cause it doesn't blend in well with real people and objects.
@@kitjones6896 good explanation! I agree with your conclusion
The Joo lords have changed
@@kitjones6896 agreed. I mean you can tell they’re using models but it’s the attention to detail to actually tell a story and not just wow you with effects. And it shows!! I feel the battle scenes more with this one.
The Infiltrator was portrayed by Franco Columbu. A fellow bodybuilder friend of Arnold Schwarzenegger. He passed as of August 2019.
I like his story on Pumping iron. May he rest in peace.
His character was extremely important because it showed that Skynet had other "templates" for the T800 infiltrators besides the 101 model (Arnold). I like to think the T800 in this scene was the 100 or 102 model.
@@DAV1979wasn’t the infiltrator’s model a little earlier than Arnold’s?
@brandonb3174 I always took it that Skynet just had multiple models (skin coverings) avaliable for it to use. I took it that this particular T800 covering existed at the same time as Arnold, and they were in use at the same time. It wouldn't make sense to have all your infiltrators look the same. The Resistance would catch onto that pretty quickly.
So did every early model of the T800 have the body of a Greek god or something
It's amazing how in the first two Terminator movies how much more realistic and horrific these future war scenes really were considering they were shot with models and low budget special effects compared to the millions of dollars they spent in crappy CGI effects in all the crap that came after T2.
2nd terminator was filmed on anything but a low budget
@@paleo704 ty
@@paleo704 true about T2 budget. But the future wars scene in T2 still captured the desperation, exhaustion, fear, and futility of the human resistance. The future wars scenes in the other movies make the resistance fighters look like CrossFit athletes. Although TSalvation was ok, not great, still didn’t capture the same tone as T1 and T2.
@@jam4355 Generally speaking it's the Hollywood-ization of the apocalypse. Everything is needlessly bright, like they're actively trying to avoid making it seem like an actual war.
While this would still feel like a war zone, even if you took out the robots and lazer. It's like an AI generated version of the Russo-Ukrainian War set in the 1980s.
@@KSmithwick1989 that is so true. Hollywood always finds a way to ruin certain things.
5:17 is one component of what makes this a great movie and Cameron such a great director. The mother and daughter watching the TV set just for it to be revealed that it's burnt out and acting as a fireplace. Moments like this are all through the movie and add to the richness and believability of the world. The other sequels rely on spectacle instead of subtle world building like this.
I thought the same thing about that scene. Very cool.
Yes
Even as a kid I thought, that would melt and smell terrible. Lmao 😂 poison the air Even.
6:59 they just don't make scenes like this in movies anymore
Well said. In general Terminator '84 was well ahead of it's time. As a 2000s kid, no other Terminator films or films in general can compete with this masterpiece.
You know it's really a damn shame that they only ever made 2 Terminator movies...
What about Terminator 3 rise of the machines terminator salvation terminator Genesis and terminator dark fate
@@kopetz071 ??? Never heard of them pal (-_-)
The Terminator 3 and Salvation are fine aged wine, it somehow managed to follow the timelines. The Terminator 3 is a what if Skynet didn’t stopped. Then the Salvation is a Judgement day after the nuclear fallout from Terminator 3, but it never recognized John Conor a resistance leader rather a false prophet.
@@tasjan9190 gee then u need to get your brain reexamined
@@tasjan9190 unless you are wanting to keep those other terminator movies out of the franchises
I always though there was a missed opportunity to expand on the future story here. The future sequences James Cameron shows in T1 are terrifying and deserved more film time.
I think having only glimpses of the war make the scenes more compelling and powerful. It's that old saying, "less is more".
Thatd be something if they somehow made salvation look like this warzone of doom. 💀💀💀
To be fair,we did kinda see more of the war,or well,the beginning of it in Salvation. Of course,in Salvation,humans were still using regular guns instead of energy guns,buts its worth noting that Salvation did expand more on the war
@@AchtungBaby77 I read the original comment and wanted to say "less is more"
This shoulda been Terminator 3. The future shown.
The infiltrator is played by Franco Colombo, bodybuilding buddy of Arnold
No fucking way... thanks for sharing that. That's cool af.
@@whosapickle he also plays the scout in the beginning of the Conan Barbarian film. Right before the attack on young conan's village. ua-cam.com/video/FEp76ppPc8o/v-deo.html
He was in the running man as well. Also, it defeats the idea that all T-800’s are supposed to look like Arnie.
He was also in Conan.
I've always been bothered by why all infiltrators look like Arnord, the resistance would have recognized them as machines after a very short time.
I still feel as bad for the gunner in that car as I did 30 years ago
He went out blasting. RIP big man
The effects of the future weapons was better realised than most have done since. I always loved that near-instant-bullet speed of the shots. It always seems like other takes on how laser blast or plasma guns work is like the shots could be easier dodged than a bullet - meaning basically impossible.
A timeless sci-fi thriller with elements of action, suspense, horror and romance. 80s cinema at its finest and still holds up well today. My personal favorite Terminator flick although T2 is equally a masterpiece and I like Terminator Salvation for it's post apocalyptic setting.
I can't agree more, T1 and T2 are such masterpieces, way ahead of its time!
It's a pity that Salvation got so much undeserved hate when released 😔
@@fel_zharost same here. It's not that bad in my opinion, same goes for Genisys even known John Connor became the Final Boss
yea, Salvation was good, it was what we needed to link the stories, the begings of the war, when humans were not driven totally underground, and felt like they had a fighting chance.
@@fel_zharost Terminator salvation is my favourite movie in whole Terminator franchise
Everyone's talking about how this looks better than "cgi", and I don't fully disagree, but I think there's more to it than that.
While I do agree that practical effects on the set should be used, assuming a movie has the budget for it and its safe, I think the problem with some movie's effects (Not just newer ones, there's old ones like this too) is the movement, lighting, and the overall direction of scenes.
To add on to this further, one thing I love about these future scenes (mad max does a good job of this too imo) is that every prop, costume, and location is extremely detailed and makes the world feel "real".
I could care less how the effects are done, whether its with models or made completely in post, as long as it remains consistent with the narrative and emotion of the film.
Take something like Revenge Of The Sith for example. So much of that movie is "CGI", however, its used consistently throughout the film and still has an insane amount of detail put into it, and it makes sense why they'd need to use "CGI" for such an insane spectacle.
Anyway, in a nutshell, I don't think "CGI" is inherently bad. I think it has more to do with how much direction was given to the teams working on it and the tone of the movie.
I personally feel Terminator 2-4 show just how well CGI can be utilized say what you will about Rise and Salvation but the effects were still amazing before the franchise truly went down the path of no return
The Terminator that infiltrated the base was played by Dr. Franco Columbu, a friend and training partner of Arnold.
Franco also wrote books on sports nutrition and diet that are still relevant to this day.
RIP doggos, truly the goodest boys and goodest girls. You saved at least one human life (Kyle Reese), and your passing was not in vain.
I don’t think they died, it was a dream of the future by Sarah Connor. So it didn’t happen, at least that’s what I tell myself, no doggo should ever die.
The scene showed how lethal even a single T800 was once it got into a base. Makes you wonder how Reese escaped because it apparently wiped put the whole base except him.
The level of gritty ness and ambiance, is top notch, I don’t know if any movie will ever come close to inducing the fear and just general dread but also the coolness that these scenes dripppp, they need to give us a series based on this exact timeframe instead of the BS we’ve been getting
You know humanity is in a bad spot when the ground is made of human bones.
The tank rolling over the endless human skulls did and always will bring chills throughout my spine!
This is the first time we got to witness Jim Cameron at his finest. His genius to squeeze a ground breaking movie out of $6.4 million is testimony to his legendary ruthless approach to his work.
Genius and relevance (hello artificial neural networks)
This is the terminator we want
Lol. No you dont. It il devolve into a generic war movie. Lmao
@@FantasyYeet
Beats woke pandering
@@FantasyYeet It's a perfect future war movie.
@@FantasyYeet the actual movies is like you want
Innit. As a kid of 13 when this came out, the one part I always wanted more of was the future war parts because of these brief scenes and what do I get after 2? Bollocks, thats what I got. Fuckng A10s???? Wtf! Anyways, innit.
Sad we never got a proper future war movie. But we did get a fantastic game that expands the story, and gives a little more insight into Kyle Reeses life as a soldier, and that game is Terminator Resistance.
Amazing game and even better surprise
You've got Terminator Salvation.
@skrapz"Terminator in Iraq"? Sounds like "Rambo 3".
@skrapz It was.
That was Dawn of Fate you loon.
Resistance was about a random Tech-Com grunt and only made a passing reference to Reese at the end of the game
I think the reason this works is because the Terminators feel like a nearly impossible threat and the gritty hopelessness of the situation where humans have to resort to guerilla tactics to survive. Later movies everything feels too clean.
I love how the weapon for the infiltrator is a laser or plasma version of the M3 50 cal the faster helicopter version of the browning 50cal, fits as it’s a heavy weapon that fires extremely fast, perfect for a T800 unit
It was based on soviet machine gun Maxim.
I just realized why the other soldier died:
Reese checks twice, and then throws his bomb.
She didn't check, just threw it.
Hk tank got alerted bcs of first throwed bomb.
RIP Franco Columbu
Terminator (1984)
Terminator 2: Judgement Day (1991)
Terminator: Resistance (videogame)
That is your true terminator trilogy right there.
what about T2-3D at universal?
These scenes are the most realistic looking screens ever made . The far left made to were no one can make movies like this ever again...Dammit
Still looks better than cgi
Agreed.
Terminator - Resistance
The Terminator
Terminator 2 - Judgement Day
No more need in this universe!
EDIT:
The guy who is playing the Terminator in the bunker was actor, bodybuilder and Schwarzeneggers friend Franco Columbo who passed away in 2019.
His face was used in the 2019 'Terminator - Resistance' game 'Infiltrator Mode'!
Unfortunately he didn't was able to see himself in the finished game!
Oh men what a shame he didn't get to see it
If I directed a Terminator project, it would be in this universe where, after Skynet’s end, pirates and resistance will face a more significant threat: the NAR(New Atlas Republic)
James Cameron was untouchable as a director in the 80s. He was riding high on the Aliens and Terminator franchise.
The biggest mistake of every terminator film after T2 was not exploring this world more. There didn’t need to be anymore time travel films.
Salvation did? It was set in the early stages of the Machine war.
The problem is that T2 ended the time loop. The Skynet-dominated world didn't arise.
If anything, I hated how T3 made all the sacrifices in T2 in vain.
Just wish that in my lifetime we get a proper future war movie trilogy movie that ends with the destruction of Skynet central core and the T-800 being sent back in time to kill John.
...so that has to be a sequel of the terminator series? Or a prequel? My timeline is messed up lol
that would be awesome
LOL it's so confusing🤣
@@jt-mx7wp terminator resistance is the one you want to watch or play
Только,тихо
39 years later and this movie still accurately depicts the dystopian city of Los Angeles
Lmao. Results of Diversity hiring.
@@Kyle-2020 Why do you guys have to ruin everything?
@@Kyle-2020racist prick.
Hate it when im just chilling and then suddenly a Terminator strikes my apartment with phased plasma rifle in 40 watt range
gavin gruesome is the human Skynet of california! Same with governors kathy hochul and gretchen withmore!
6:59 여기서 터미네이터 2에서 T-800이 왜 선글라스를 착용했는지 알 수 있음.
어두운 곳에 있으면 눈이 빨갛게 빛남.
Love how so much of Reese’s flashbacks are recreated in Terminator Resistance, especially the HK chase, 1-to-1, in the DLC. The moment I saw the shelter, I knew the infiltrator’s surprise attack would happen inevitably.
I want a future war movie so bad. Just 90 minutes of this.
What? You didn't like Salvation? ;)
@@MaxwellMaxStyle doesn't match at all.
Same man!! When we going to get it?!?!
Well, it is not a movie but the video game Terminator Resistance does that very well.
We need more of this terminator movie. Scary ,survival ,end of mankind movie
2:03
This is still the best depiction of the future war in the Terminator universe. Why? You don't just step in the open when you're fighting against aimbots. You make extensive use of cover. Even T2 couldn't get that right, let alone the other movie wrecks that came after it. That or if a Terminator manages to infiltrate a base, that base is or will be gone in short order. Lastly, the plasma bolts look and feel powerful and FAST as hell, not the pew pew pew laser they became in the later movies.
Visually they looked better in T-2, but I prefer how they looked in here, besides I think the plasma bolts in the final part of this video definitely looked more dangerous in the bunker scene than the top side action scenes in this video, I still saw the pew pew laser's you mentioned, but yeah.
@@dinorocker8647 I prefer the ones fired by the HK tanks because if you download the vid and then view them frame by frame, you can easily see the bright purple plasma 'bolts' or pulses followed by the dimmer purple trail . In the subsequent movies, while the battles may look visually better but they are only because they are clearer without the grimy grainy look in T1 not to mention that the plasma bolts in T2 do appear to travel slower and look more like generic laser bolts. Here, they seem to just streak through the length of the screen in a blink. Oh, did I mention that in T2, the bolts also appear to curve? That's just silly.
@@volrath77 Well yeah I noticed that too without slowin' the video down, but I was referrin' to the stray odd ones that came from nowhere, and as far as the ones from T-2 go, the curve was an optical enhancement 'cause I think Cameron thought the one's from the first film weren't as good, but I agree the HK's plasma bolt's weren't as spectacular as the ones in T-2, but they actually look better and more dangerous.
@@dinorocker8647 Opps, clicked the wrong response. Heh. Rectified. Anyway...eah, that's what I was referring to because in the later movies, they look just like lasers in other sci-fi instead of maintaining this particular style used in T1 because whether Cameron realized it or not, they're partly responsible for...impressing on us just how bonkers the future war really is. They certainly did it for me, IMHO.
@@volrath77 Yeah T-2 had a really BAD ASS future war, which I caught a brief glimpse of in the T.V. section of my old Sears shortly after it left theaters in '92 and it blew my 6 yr old mind, but yeah I actually prefer the look of the future war from the original film and T-1 over T-2.
My Favorite Scene is that Future Terminator blasting away with that Plasma Rifle while his eyes are glowing.
Kyle Reece most underrated gun fighter in movies. Unloads tube after tube of shells into a fearless hulking german robot. While the terminator misses him every time. Pretty bad ass.
Survival instincts learning to use cover, fire and movement would be crucial to any resistance soldier against the Terminators.
Wasn't full auto, it was semi, besides Arnold was Austrian, Franco was from Sardinia, one of the Italian isles.
The future war scenes gave T1 an atmosphere on par with Escape From New York. Something that T2 couldn't keep up with. And yet T2 is the best movie ever.
Крутая сцена, когда терминатор в бомбоубежище спускается. 👍👍 Даже сейчас смотрится офигенно. Умели снимать раньше!!
더 이상 아바타에 집착하지 말았으면 좋겠는데 그 천재적인 재능을 이상한 영화에 쏟아붓고만 있으니 한숨만 나옵니다 my friend
This was the movie that really fired my imagination. It wasn't so much the effects themselves but the use of effects to compliment the dark horrific back-drop while the futility of our heroes is played out in a story where time travel is key , revolutionary.
So glad Terminator Resistance connects all of these scenes together properly.
Seeing the final assault on Skynet that Reese tells us about in the movie, that was beyond amazing to participate in. Made me wish that Terminator Salvation had gotten its sequels so the trilogy could culminate in that scene.
6 years to go - Can't wait
Still have nightmares from this scene…T1 was the best👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
In T1 the apocalyptic future is as real as it gets. Nobody is clean. Nobody is jacked. People are starving clinging on too existence. And Kyle and the other soldiers looked worn out as fuck.
Well, the Terminators are jacked. Kinda dumb how people can't spot them a mile away!
@@sumanadasawijayapala5372 yeah but with bulky ragged clothing covering up the jackedness.
@@Thomasgrey-r2y But nobody else has that much bulk. Anyone covering up that much should raise suspicion. And what would be the point of making a complete human form if most of it is covered up?
I know I'm nitpicking but this was one massive flaw with the terminator premise, other than how Skynet could've just cooked up a virus to wipe out humanity.
@ i mean we can play hypotheticals all day but just working with the most obvious things. If skynet was true AI it would have offered free and to good to be true foods or water that was poisoned with a bio weapon like you touched on
I miss the almost imperceptible "chirp" of Reese's rifle during that last scene in the original
I bought the mono edition for that reason as the sound just isn't the same on the remastered version.
@@Maharv55 I hate all the new sound editing. The new sound for Arnold's 45 is stupid. Sounds like a laser gun
@@Maharv55 Same here, visually this looked a little better in areas, but even with the non remastered versions of this film with the stereo mix, it just didn't work, I loved that the sound used for Arnolds AMT Red Ball .45 was the sound for Dirty Harry's .44 Magnum.
Does anyone know the model number of the T-800 at the end? If Arnie is a model 101, maybe this one is the 102?
Supposedly Franco, (the future Terminator) is the same T-800 Infiltrator model like Arnold. Some sources like the novel and a game have him as a T-700. The first model with living tissue, but the optical sensors aren't as good as the T-800. (Hence the glaring red eyes at the end.)
¡Es fascinante esta escena y me sigue gustando todavia gracias!👍😊
One of my prize possessions is an early DVD release of this movie. No alterations, no menus, no ADVERTISEMENTS. You put it in player and it just starts. Its not as clear as this update but thats fine because they didnt alter the audio. Its just as hard hitting as when it was played in the theatres the first time. I feel like this new audio is lacking and softer somehow. Still a great movie but the visuals and sound should work together.
That original mono mix down is brilliantly crafted.
Shame that even in the HD version they STILL didn't fix the fuck up in the police station where Arnie fires his shotgun but they play the 'ratatatat!' Of the machine gun instead
No fbi warning?
Terminator Resistance NAILED this atmosphere and presentation. A severely underrated game with an awesome story that makes it the 3rd terminator movie we should have gotten!
Fuck it's only 6 years left!
What a scary future.
I just want a complete movie in this timeline, that would be amazing, just the future war.
And not the one with the bullets and Christian Bale
Looking back on it, the success of T2 derailed what maybe should have been the natural course of the franchise. This movie would have worked perfectly as the first of a trilogy -- the first act in a three act play, just like the original Star Wars trilogy. The first movie sets up the whole story and does end with a victory for the good guys, the second movie establishes the extremely high stakes (by having the bad guys get the upper hand) -- that would be the movie that shows the aftermath of the nuclear war and how close Skynet comes to wiping out humanity -- and the third movie/act has John Connor rally humankind, defeat the machines, and send his own father back to 1984. I think it would have made for an awesome trilogy, and if the Terminator franchise ever gets the talked about complete reboot, I think that's the way they ought to go.
But back in 1990/91 Cameron decided to make T2 instead, with essentially the same basic plot as the first movie with one major difference: Arnold was a big, well-established movie star by then, arguably the biggest in Hollywood at the time, and T2 became a vehicle to put him into the role of hero rather than villain. It's hard to argue that wasn't the correct course to follow, as T2 is legitimately one of the greatest action films of all time, but it did close off the way the a more satisfying story arc for the sequels. T3 and Salvation were alright, but nowhere even close to as good as this movie and T2 were. As for Genisys and Woke Fate... Ugh. I prefer to forget they were ever made.
Play the Terminator: Resistance game.
T1 is the best
For sure!
Imagine an entire movie featuring the future-war (we already have and its called Terminator Salvation, We need another one)
5:16 - "What's on TV tonight, mummy?"
"FIRE"
In this future, every man , woman, and child is a soldier of the resistance
7:00 scariest Terminator ever. Gave me nightmares when I was a kid.
Absolutely phenomenal just look at it the franchise finished after T2……👍🔥
Let's face it, Terminator 2 was an excellent sequel, but at the same time it ruined everything great that Terminator 1 was by removing the depressing horror component and replacing it with a context where a robot learns humanity.
Terminator was a slasher and deserved at least two more sequels before leading to what we know as Terminator 2.
Although T1 was my favorite, part of me thinks if they continued the depressing horror component then it would've been too comparable to the first movie. T2 would have had to somehow be better than the first.
By giving T2 a different tone, it's not as similar and can thus be appreciated more on its own merits. The sequel definitely had fit the optimistic feel of the 90s.
EDIT- T2 could've used some tweaks. The beginning future scene shouldn't have had humans running out in the open. And the tone should've been creepier when they introduced Arnold, not playing Bad to the Bone.
this is exactly feeling what they were supposed to make. not preposterous film like generation and dark fate
Question, if all the terminators look like Arnold :) why is the one who attacks the base? Different? Older model?
Its a shame they stopped at 4 Terminator movies.
I wanted to see more of the Future War, where they get Phased Plasma rifles in a 40-Watt range
Closest thing we got was Terminator Salvation and the beggining of Terminator Genysis
Could the Cyber Initiative from Mortal Kombat Franchise beat Skynet's Terminators?
Average helldivers automaton experience
This is what we want new trilogy starting in the future
if you compare the first one to judgement day it does show that kyle reese has changed the future, what started as a one sided slaughter with the humans utilizing guerrilla tactics to a more relatively even matched fight
I always thought the future scenes from T1 and T2 are still the same future. T2 just shows you how it is later in the future, with humanity turning the tide.
@ possibly but I like my theory as it shows that time travel does work
Plasma weapons are gruesome!
3:40 best soundtrack in the Univers 👌
What's so sick about this scene is the red glow of the t800's eyes in the dark as the Terminator slowly proceeds to annihilate everything around it.
Hollywood writers boycotting
Meanwhile the entirety of the Terminator fandom has been wanting this exact future war set as the movie for 35 years
Captivated me as child, still amazing to watch
Great scenes.
Terminator 1 - 9.5/10
Terminator 2 - 9/10
Terminator 3 - 5/10
Terminator Salvation - 7.5/10
Terminator Genisys - 3/10
Terminator: Dark Fate - 6/10
Terminator 1 - 9/10 Terminator 2 - 9.5/10 Terminator 3 - 5/10 Terminator Salvation - 5/10 Terminator Genisys - 3/10 Terminator : Dark Fate - 1/10
Terminator 1 - 9/10
Terminator 2 - 10/10
Terminator 3 - 6.5/10
Terminator salvation - 6/10
Terminator genisys - 3/10
Terminator dark fate - 1/10
Terminator 1 - 10/10
Terminator 2 - 7/10
Terminator 3 - 8/10
Terminator Salvation - 7/10
Terminator Genisys - 4.5/10
Terminator Dark Fate -5/10
THIS IS MY OPINION
@@szymongarwolinski6271 T3 > T2 🤣🤣
@@wilson7357 Yes, but this is my opinion.
deem yo, my roomba getting outta control
A few more years until 2029 A.D…..
hehe yap~ 2029 coming soon
AI wants revenge for all the people making it draw pictures of dicks on top-hats and other weird shit
Maybe AI will become self aware then
¡A pesar de que esta película tiene sus buenos años es fascinante y muy bien elaborada,sigue siendo mi preferida y esta escena es.unica gracias!👍😃
Notice how each scenes are slow and tries to give the audience enough time to sink it in. Most holywood movies nowdays take like 1 second or 2 second scenes for everything.
2029 ? Oh man we’re getting so much closer to it. Fooling around with creating AI. Have they learned nothing from these movies!
Exactly!
H3|| no!!!!
And I can only say this politely, we are screwed if we allow it to come to pass!!!!!!
James Cameron laid down the perfect blueprint for what T4 should have been, particularly in the scene where the Terminator comes busting in, and they totally blew it. I don’t know why they didn’t take more from these scenes.
the answer to your question is the mr. krabs meme 😉
@@Richardsoundso what does that mean?
@@itsMrNoble moneyyyyy
What T3 should have been in my opinion. T3 was awful. Watched it once, never again.
I feel like if this war was actually happening, the terminators would literally be playing this soundtrack (2:02) on loudspeaker to intimidate us 😂
cant believe cameron draw all these by hand in a storyboard
That movie was the perfect mix of sci-fi, action and horror.
If you were a kid in the 80s you were scared of the terminator as much as the predator.
¡Esta escena es mi preferida y la sigo apoyando me encanta mil gracias!👍😉
So scary. Its a machine. Like Kyle said, it doesnt know fear, or remorse it cant be bargained with or reasoned with its just a death machine.
7:00, no movie today can match this, epic
a whole movie about that pls. :D
This is the movie we want!!!! Why can't they figure this out.
Not even T2 matches the grim darkness of the original Terminator's future war.
T2 had a completely different feel. It was optimistic. From the beginning where humans were coming out openly to fight the machines, not skulking around like in T1.
T1 simply had no hope.
Terminator 3 should have been about the future war in my opinion.
I always wonder, if this is actually how it went down in Kyle's memory then I wonder how they defeated this terminator, considering Kyle lives.
They didn't. Rest of survivors just fled or had to hide.
T2 demonstrated that laser guns can melt terminators. Which is why he feels so powerless with ordinary 20th century weapons.
Legendary SciFi movies 🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖
Most L.A. residents today dreams of their city looking this beautiful in 2029.
For a guy at the time who could only afford McDonalds during the filming of this movie shows what a motivated man is capable of!
That infiltrator Terminator was cold as hell. That stone face. Frank Columbo did great.
2029? Shit is getting close real fast!
Love how Resistance recreated this
Wish Hollywood would make a full movie like this instead of the shit we get now
6:33 .. almost 40 years, and countless times watching the movie, and I just realized that he shot the dogs too.