Lesson 5: Japanese verb groups and the te-form. Verb groups 1, 2, 3 made easy. Organic Japanese
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- Japanese verb groups and the te-form made easy. Understand what they are and how they work. Japanese verb groups 1, 2 and 3 (more accurately described as ichidan verbs, godan verbs and irregular verbs) are easy to understand once you know what they really are.
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I tried learning Japanese 5 years ago and I gave up at Te forms because the lecturer took an hour to teach it in a really convoluted way and thought Japanese just wasn't for me. I now understand it fully after 9 minutes and can do any Te transformation after a few practices. Cure Dolly really was a godsend to the Japanese learning community may she rest in peace.
I am really wondering what happened during that hour long lecture hahaha 😅 This is not usually one of the things that get screwed up in teaching Japanese. But Dolly was definitely a special android, her modeling of the language is really impressive and makes me think she was a real genius. A terrible loss to the world.
Found this channel recently, and was heartbroken to find out she passed away. I wish see could see just how big of a legacy she left, this course being as detailed and helpful as it is and being FREE
Fr what a legend Cure Dolly Sensei
Again, if you are studying Japanese in any none-native way, please look at these lessons, things that take ordinary university classes months to get through are handled with more precision, greater speed, and a razor-sharp logic here.
jokes on you, what will take you YEARS of "official" classes will only take you a few hours of cure dolly binge-watching. this channel is PURE GOLD.
Best teacher ever. I'm so glad I found your channel.
Thank you so much!
That was brutally elegant. Verb groups in under 10 minutes is a huge deal!
I've noticed before that 死ぬ is the only ぬ ending verb I know of, but I didn't realise it is actually the only one :O
The word is so emotionally driven that it's the only ぬ ending you'll ever find. At least that's how I look at it.
@@Im-BAD-at-satire what's the difference between nomimasu and nonde?
I always felt like it was considered bad luck in the same way the words sounding
like four are bad luck in china haha
@@ItachiUchiha-cp4cc nomimasu is the polite form of "to drink" and is in the "non-past tense". Nonde is the casual form of the same verb "to drink", but it is in the "-ing" form, as in currently drinking. Example: 私が水を飲みます means I drink water or I will drink water. 私が水を飲んで means I am drinking water (currently).
Nomimasu can also be used in "-ing" form, it becomes nomimashite. It can also be past tense which until now Dolly explained as "ta-ending" but in polite this becomes nomimashita
i feel like if you'll not put "class dismissed" i'll just stay at the video forever
thank you for lessons anyway
Well that's why I say it!
I've studied French all my life and I so appreciate that Japanese only has 2 irregular verbs. I also like not having to conjugate separate forms for I, you, he, she, etc.
It's also useful that nouns have no gender. Japanese is remarkably free from unnecessary information.
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 yes! I find there are a lot of useful trade offs. There are some things I find harder in Japanese, like memorizing vocabulary. French shares a lot with English. Recently there has been a lot of interesting discussions on how Romance languages will evolve to handle gender neutral people.
@@juliekersten6050 I believe that - all other things being equal - Japanese is the easiest language to learn that I have encountered. However of course all other things are not equal. Japanese is a 100% foreign language so everything in it (apart from a few loan-words) is new. French and other West European languages are only about 50% foreign. We know half of them to start with.
00:00 Introduction to the 3 groups of Japanese verbs
00:21 The ichidan (1-level) verbs
01:03 The godan (5-level) verbs
02:03 The irregular する and くる verbs
03:21 Introduction to godan verbs
03:41 うつる group of godan verbs
05:04 ぬぶむ group of godan verbs
06:40 く and ぐ group of godan verbs
07:37 す group of godan verbs
08:25 The irregular verbs transformation
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Oh thank you a lot man
Thanks mister Account of study ( Studying ? )
It'd be totally useful before I finished taking my notes! 😅
Dolly sensei, you explained this so beautifully! I have no idea WHY language classes make it unnecessarily complicated.
the number of views on these videos has been criminal. these lessons have been easily digestible so far and I can't believe I've wasted years on something dolly sensei can explain in a few minutes
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the fact that you only have 21k followers is a travesty, you would deserve at least a hundred times more. Your content is gold!
Thank you for making these videos. I want you to know that they are appreciated.
Thank you so much for taking the time to say so.
no way, teacher you made me have a couple "oh" moments allready. understanding where things like shimasu come from and the verb base instead of just learning the masu form really is better...
i am so grateful for her, making this course.
totally agree! in my japanese classes we studied the more formal japanese which left me really confused when i was watching tv programmes/anime etc. Learning the basics first provides such a great, easy to understand foundation!
honestly i cant say i will talk a lot of japanese after this , but for god sake , how easy is learning with her. her method is unique and fabulous , god bless her.
Your lessons are just perfect. They are condensed AND easy to understand.
Thank you!
never thought I would be learning japanese and getting my fear of dolls cured too thanks a lot dolly.
Android sensei! You really are talented in teaching language. And Im so glad to have stumbled upon this channel. I've been studying japanese for 4 months now but I decided to start from scratch using your videos as a guide. All I can say that your japanese teaching method is the best one so far. The amount of time and effort for making these videos must be tremendous. So ありがとうございます!
Thank you so much. I think it is a very good idea to go over the course from the start even though you know some Japanese already because there are so many misconceptions in conventional teaching that it is worth looking at the complete model from scratch.
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 Will do. These are the only tutorials that gave me a solid grasp on how japanese as communicative language works. And I think that is what sensei is trying to achieve as well. So thanks and goodluck with the channel.
I’ve learned more in these past 2 days of watching your videos and taking notes than anywhere else so far! Best videos on Japanese I’ve ever seen. Thank you🙏 honestly.
That's wonderful. がんばってください。
I must admit, at first I was put off by the android avatar, but I firmly believe that "aesthetics" don't matter as long as the content is presented in a well-rounded, concise manner. And you, Dolly-sensei, nailed it and you got me hooked. And even though I am German who studied Latin for seven years in high-school and French for 3 years, so irregular verbs and gendered nouns really do not scare me, I am ... somewhat happy that Japanese is simple in that regard. Learning the kanji will be fun enough :D (... although I actually enjoy doing that, to be frank).
Thank you for your content you put out for free. I learnt more in half an hour than in one semester of my university language course.
The organic approach folds learning kanji into vocabulary which is helpful for some people. And with a background in German and Latin you should find logical particles much easier. A lot of English/Romance speakers (both having dropped most case indicators) find が surprisingly hard to grasp. If you know cases and realize that the logical particles are just a super-simple way of marking them, it helps a lot.
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 Indeed! Although the Japanese particles are a lot less of a pain in the proverbial than learning cases (and especially having to memorise prepositions together with the cases they demand when it doesn't line up with German). I also find having studied Latin helpful, since while it is very rigid, you really get drilled into analysing a sentence and making out what is what.
Sorry for rambling, and thank you so much for your answer even though it is an old video :)
@@givmi_more_w9251 Japanese as well as being very logical is very anti-redundancy. Most European languages require much more redundant information and much more forcing of information that the speaker might not have considered relevant but is forced to include for grammatical reasons. This helps Japanese grammar to be generally less of a pain in the proverbial.
This is so helpful! Thank you, Cure Dolly. May you rest in peace 🙏
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がんばってください。
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The best teacher I've ever seen. Thank you! Thank you very much!
Thank you!
easy to understand, and easy to keep up with the pace. truly masterful teaching!
This was incredibly useful, and it's only lesson 5. You're spoiling me, Dolly-Sensei. Arigato!
Thank you so much oh my goodness your saving me from a disaster. Im learning japanese for my third year for high school and its gotten really rough and I need to refresh my mind on the more simpler things to advance. Also the avatar is an interesting decision and makes it so I feel more engaged? ya.
Thank you! I'm so glad I am able to help you. Glad you like the avatar. I think it makes me seem more human.
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 But I thought you were a doll! The avatar makes the videos feel like one-on-one lessons. So far, it's very easy to understand, thank you Dolly :)
@@Ysekai I am but - not quite as realistically grown-up-human looking as my avatar. And yes my aim is to produce something as near to a one-on-one lesson as possible. I am so glad the lessons are helping you;
And just like that at 6:08 an anime watcher finally understands the true meaning of "Omae wa Mou shinde iru"
Great mnemonics for the groups, I'll memorize them like this now.
I think by now I get the te form right most the time, but it's good to know the rules to be sure.
Good. I'm glad it's helping.
You have motivated to come back to Japanese. Thank you.
Great lesson as always, Sensei!! I never imagined I could learn so much Japanese in just 10 minutes. Thank you so much again!
Note to self: Date of lesson completion: 29.10.2020 Thursday (India) 4 pm
This channel is a game changer for me! Thank you so much for all you are doing!
Might have to make up some flash cards to help get these rules to stick in my brain. Hoping that if i continue long enough in this course that i can re-join a Japanese book club that is for beginners and start reading some sentences from manga (or at least begin able to see all the components. even if i dont know the words i could be like, oh this is a verb or this is the indirect object).
Do you mind sharing the deck?
Btw, the irregular verbs "kuru" and "suru" derive from Old Japanese (7th century AD) where "Ko" and "so" were demonstratives like "this," "that," and "the". Ko was proximal, and So was nonproximal.
In this way, "Suru" is like conjugating the demonstrative pronoun to describe the acrions of the object in question. For instance, "the ball." You could say "So ga ball wo shite" or "That is a ball."
Then to describe an action of the ball it is natural to convert "So" to an "u" sound verb form to apply the "to be" verb structure to the demonstrative pronoun. "Suru," the ball did something. "... ball wo shita." The ball does something, "ball wo suru." The ball will do something "ball wo shite." So that's pretty cool info. "So" was non-proximal. So, "suru" says what happens but does not say anything about proximity as expected. And, more, I bet you can say things like "so ga..." to say "the object did this or that."
Likewise, "kuru" does say information about proximity. It is conjugating the proximal-demonstrative "ko" into the u-sounding verb form to describe action of change in proximity to you or someone else. Specifically, "kuru" means to come (at you, or at somone else). The ball came at me. "Watashi ga watashi ni ball wo kita." The ball will come at me, "watashi ga watashi ni ball wo kite." The ball comes at me. "watashi ga watashi no ball wo kuru."
Pretty neat yeah? That's how the irregular verbs in Japanese are derived.
And btw, the "zero-ga" is always the demonstrative "so" in the copula (shi-te). So is a non proximal demonstrative for "the," "they," and "that." So, "suru" means "they being" because "iru" means "being" and "so" means "they" so + iru = suru = they + being = they being.
When using topic markers like "wa" without an explicit subject "zero-ga", the copular "they" is always the zero-ga. This is the function of "da" in japanese sentences. Just to clear up confusion for copulars and passive speaking in general, eapecially with honorifics.
And btw, "da" derives from "desuru" which btw is also the derivstion for "desu" (phonetic spelling of "desuru" which is in turn the "te-form of i-adjactives and verbs when used with a demonstrative "so" in "suru."). This is called de-form (te-form + demonstrative). A copular, then, is a de-form for "suru." And that's the passive voice in japanese.
It converts "iru" "being", "ite" "be", "ita" "was being" into "desuru" "they being", "deshite" "they be" and "deshita" "they were being." Desuru gets written as shorthand as "desu" and that explains desu in Japanese.
Deshite gets shortend to just "de" but since "deshite" comes at the end of a sentance the sound is changed from an "e" open ended sound to a "final" closed concluding sound "da" and that's how you derive "da" from "desu." Da = deshite short hand = they be. Desu = desuru shorthand = they being.
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What I can do to thank you?! I feel just simply saying thank you and give a like isn’t enough
Join her patreon if you have the means!
one thing i may say about this lesson
although it was explained pretty much spot on how things change, i didn't understand why or more to the point what this is used for, like teaching blind person how to drive the bus (can be done but he never know where he driving anyway)
last few lessons about trains easy, they got me thinking, this time well my not english native way of using english kind of works as a boundry layer because there is no direct translation from english to my language, or rather verbs work differently here, both more complex and simpler at the same time than in englisg
yeah, i couldnt believe that she went on for 10 minutes about the te form without even saying what it's used for
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Thank u so much for That wonderful explanation
Sensei you still look young and kawaii
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Japanese teachers at schools job would be a 100 times easier if they just watched this series in class.
Thank you so much.
Thank you for these lessons. Does the irregular verbs not have a "ta" past form? I don't remember it being mentioned. Or does "kite" become "kita"? Thanx again.
They do have a "ta" form. I know your comment is weeks old but Cure Dolly sensei passed away recently so I'm gonna leave an answer here. If you know how to transform a verb into a "te" form, to create the "ta" form just replace your "te" part with "ta" and you are good to go! One famous example of a sentence that uses "kita" is from the character All Might from the anime Boku no Hero Academia: "Watashi ga kita!". I hope this helps :)
@@rafvkk This is very helpful, thank you.
You saved my godan life (get it?)
You have to make a pun when you get the itch, Dan.
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 What a funny android!
Love your vids I think I'm starting to understand. So a godan verb like 飛ぶ would be 飛んだ or 飛んで? I love the mnemonics. Thank you.
Yes, that's correct. Thank you!
Hi I have two Qs please:
1) When you change to te form across all of these (tte, nde, ite, ide, shite) do you always add "iru" after?
2) Do past tense ut/su/ru verbs become "tta"?
1) only to make the continuous present (am doing, is doing etc), but always for that.
2) Yes it's absolutely regular. You always make た-form exactly the same way as て-form (but with た or だ in place of て or で of course)
I am intrigued, why did your programmers choose "Cure Dolly" as your name? Do you know?
I chose Cure Dolly because I like Precure, but my "real" name is イチゴ・アリス (= Advanced Linguistic Intelligence Computational Engine 1.5)
Do you have text versions of your lessons anywhere? I have found your lessons so far to be very helpful, but I have great difficulty understanding your voice. I don't know if it's microphone quality or what, but it would be much easier to understand if it were written
All lessons have accurate subtitles if you turn them on.
This is great! You are very cute btw! I like your hair
Thank you!
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 no problem!
Hello. Is there a logical reason that 切る(kiru) (cut) is Godan and 着る(kiru) (wear) is Ichidan? Are there other Godan verbs that fit the iru/eru Ichidan template? Thank you.
Yes there are quite a few. Words _not_ ending in いる・える have to be godan, but there is no rule the other way around. Getting used to words makes it much easier. For example if you know the word 着物 (kimono) then you know that 着る has to be ichidan (otherwise it would be kirimono). if you know the words 入口 (iriguchi) and 出口 (deguchi) - entrance and exit - you know that 入る is godan and 出る ichidan (otherwise they would be said iguchi and deriguchi). For this of course you must know the stem-system (and you must know that anyway!) ua-cam.com/video/FhyrskGBKHE/v-deo.html
All your videos are so great, brilliant explanation!
And do you have video on what te-form is?
て-form does a number of different things (all related, but quite various), and I don't think it is helpful to try to learn them all at once. Essentially what it _is_ in its core function is one of the two fundamental verb-connectors (the other one is the い-stem and we'll be learning about the stems very soon). We've already seen how it connects いる to verbs in order to make them continuous-present. It does a lot of other connecting jobs too, such as joining two (or more) parts of a complex sentence (we'll learn about that in lesson 11 ua-cam.com/video/3X2ZCWazrDw/v-deo.html ). However I recommend going through this course in order and you'll get to understand its various functions.
KawaJapa CureDolly ok, thanks!
て-from is for connecting 体言, 体言 is a word that does not conjugate, like a noun or an auxiliary. So it is very common, but hard to summarize, since it is depended on what words you attack to the te-form.
thank you ❤
You've made this super easy to understand! I just have one question. I was doing a quiz online where it wanted me to conjugate 持って行く into the past tense. I figured it would be 持っていいた, but it was actually 持っていった, as if it was a godan verb. Is this just an odd exception?
Yes, if you rewatch the video, you'll see this is explained toward the end.
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 Oh my goodness, I got it mixed up. I thought that you said it wasn't itte, and that it was iite. Thank you for clarifying my silly mistake. I've been watching these videos since I started trying to learn Japanese again, and I'm really enjoying them!
Hi Cure Dolly sensei, I find the lessons very clear but especially in this kind of "conjugation" lessons ,would it be possible to get an exercise sheet to practice? Personally that's how this kind of rules stick to my memory. Thank you !
I'm not very good at exercise sheets but I do recommend using something like this: ua-cam.com/video/ElDZE_BmFVc/v-deo.html
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 Thank you so much, exactly what I was looking for!
Thank you Sensei!! It helped me a lot!
I just have 1 small doubt, that I kind of already know the answer, but I want to be 100% sure.
In the exceptions, the past form of the verbs would be the same as the present, but with the "ta" in the place of "te", right?
Like, for kuru, it would be kita, suru -> shita, iku -> itta
Correct me if I am wrong
Yes, that is correct.
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 alright! ありがとうごさいます
I was looking for a worksheet to practice, but, not finding one, I found this: wkdonc.github.io/conjugation/drill.html
If you check only the "Plain" and "-て” form boxes, there are 82 questions that you can work through.
(Post: I found Lesson 1-6 worksheet at: www.patreon.com/posts/18318496 )
Good recommendation. This looks very good. Thank you for suggesting it. A lot of things force です/ます too early but this gives you the choice by checking plain (to avoid it at this stage). Very good simple practice.
Hey, thanks for that website!
Hello as promised I said id comment on the next video and here I am with a bit more confusion and enlightenment my main confusion is two things mainly clarification first I am confused on what tense we are making with these. Second is the process just finding the ending letter that match with the chart and then cutting the end and replacing it like motsu to motte and of course here are my attempts on sentences the last one I had to refresh my self on some things to make it atleast seem right I check my sentences in google translate lmao and the last one required alot of word and now im done with my rambling
Sakura-ga tabette iru
Sakura-ga watashi-wo nonde iru
Watashi-ga Sakura-wo yobtte iru
All right. it's time for "the talk". If you are serious about this, it really is time to get to grips with the basics. Please see this video on how to start learning Japanese: ua-cam.com/video/Ky12sKu3EcE/v-deo.html
1. You must learn hiragana. Things will start making more sense if you can see them as they really are rather than through romaji approximations. This should take a week to ten days. You can go on using romaji for another ten days but that's all.
2. You must pay more attention to the lessons. Most of the mistakes you have been making could be avoided by just watching the lesson again and looking at the relevant parts. Just whizzing through the course half-learning things won't work. If you don't digest what you are learning you can't use it and moving on to the next lesson is done on an unsound basis. When I correct sentences don't just think "Oh fine" and move on to the next lesson. Try again. Don't move on until you can get it right.
Ok. Sorry for sounding teacher-y.
Let's look at your sentences
Sakura-ga tabette iru
Basically correct but it should be tabete iru because taberu is an ichidan verb. If you are ever in doubt look the word up on jisho.org. That tells you if verbs are ichidan or godan (but most of the time you don't need to - only words ending in iru or eru _can_ be ichidan).
Sakura-ga watashi-wo nonde iru
If you meant "Sakura is drinking me" then it is correct.
Watashi-ga Sakura-wo yobtte iru
This should be yonde iru (New Boom group).
But you're doing better. Congratulations. You can do this!
sensei i have question! im re-watching this again (coz why not?) and it just occurred to me, you keep saying "just change to it te in the te-form or ta in the ta-form" so what exactly is the difference of te-form and ta-form sensei? i did a bit of research and this is one i found:
*Ichidan verb group:*
taberu = to eat (present)
tabeta = ate (past)
tabete = eating (past participle)
*Godan Verb Groups: (split into 4 groups)*
*UTSURU group:*
warau = to laugh (present)
waratta = laughed (past)
waratte = laughing (past participle)
*New Boom (NUBUMU) group:*
nomu = to drink (present)
nonda = drank (past)
nonde = drinking (past participle)
*KU-GU group:*
kaku = to write (present)
kaita = wrote (past)
kaite = writing (past participle)
*Su group:*
hanasu = to speak (present)
hanashita = spoke (past)
hanashite = speaking (past participle)
so therefore ta-form is used for past and te-form is used for past participle . am i correct sensei?
Edit: sensei, im still waiting for a reply :(
Instant replies not guaranteed. See your user agreement. Broadly you are right but there is no such thing as a "past participle" in Japanese. It is time to stop trying to model it as a European language. The て-form does a whole variety of things that we will learn about as we go along. Currently the only one we have covered in the course at this point is that it attaches いる to make a statement of a continuous present action. It does many, many other things, all essentially connected with attaching - from compounding verbs to compounding sentences. So for now let's just call it the て-form and leave it at that. The "meaning" of the て-form depends entirely on the following context. Everything else is correct though.
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 i see, thank you!
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 and sensei what do you mean by "Instant replies not guaranteed. See your user agreement."??
@@tankeryy1566 A little joke on this slightly sassy edit:
Edit: sensei, im still waiting for a reply :(
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 oh thought u were being serious xD, i even thought that i needed to sign some sort of contract to watch your lessons for free xD dont scare me sensei! xDD
Alright I'm watching it
This is my latest overly ambitious attempt at a sentence. By all means skip correcting this. I completely winged it on the adjective logic. Thought it might be worth a laugh.
「２００９年に、 私は初 原作 音楽作を 作曲すった。」
[2009 in Japanese] nen ni, watashi wa hatsu gensaku ongaku saku o sakkyokusutta.
"In 2009, I composed my first original work of music."
I'll take another swing after next lesson
Watch again from 8:27 and then re-write 作曲すった correctly. Where do you get the idea that 初 on its own can mean first? Kanji on their own are nouns and nouns don't operate without particles. However 初 on its own is nothing. 初めての will do the job though. Otherwise, structure and particle use correct.
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 Ah, so 作曲した IS correct? Man, I wish Japanese threw compiler errors like .NET languages. Trial and error is tough.
So all solo kanji are nouns? Well that'll be helpful to remember! I guess that means okurigana cover mainly verbs AND adjectives? Thank you for your dedication.
@@x2bounty Yes. You can't have a verb or an adjective without okurigana. Nouns rarely have okurigana and when they do they can't change in any way because nouns can't change form. The okurigana of verbs and adjectives are precisely their changeable elements. The difference between nouns and verbs/adjectives is that nouns are static and unchangeable (but can attach logical particles and the copula) and verbs/adjectives are dynamic and changing (and can't attach logical particles or the copula).
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日本語でコメントをしてくれてありがとうございます。
This video is really helpful, but I keep running into some corrections when practicing, and I'm not sure why. For example, ねる becoming ねて, 食べる becoming 食べて instead of 食べって etc. Is there a rule I am missing somehow?
Oh, they are eru, so you just swap out the the ru...
@@allmyfriendsarempegs They are ichidan so you just swap out the る. Most eru/iru verbs are ichidan, but not all. That is one thing you do have to know.
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 Thank you for the reply! I appreciate it.
@@allmyfriendsarempegs I would add that you soon get to know which iru/eru words are godan because you will know some form of the word that confirms it. If you know いりぐち (入り口 in-mouth = entrance) then you know that 入る is godan because otherwise it would have to be いぐち. If you know きもの (着物) then you know that 着る is ichidan because it isn't きりもの etc.
do you have book or pdf?
Working on it.
I absolutely abhor the voice but the information is splendid so I hope it'll grow on me but can you explain how to change 言う(いう) into its て/た form please?
"The voice" happens to be my voice. And you just follow the directions in the video to make the て-form. It isn't an exception. So work it out and tell me what you think.
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 I thought it would be いって and いった but doesnt that mean 言う and 行く are the same you just have to use the kanji or context to differentiate?
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 also I guess it's because of the reverb or it sounds like this is being recorded in a room with an echo or excessively close to the mic. Each clicking sound of the tongue or mouth itself just seems very loud
@@jaylenmiller7914 I think the recording has improved as we went along, so later videos should be somewhat better. The worst part of this one I suspect is the inset video in the middle (with the white dress and green chalkboard) which is much older. Incidentally, not getting too much into "trade secrets" but my voice isn't synthesized like many androids. I imitate human speech mechanisms with artificial vocal cords, tongue, articulators, lubrication etc. I think we have refined this process somewhat since the earlier videos.
@@jaylenmiller7914 Yes that is correct. People tend to worry about these things in the abstract (the way the textbooks teach Japanese as a set of abstract facts doesn't help). In practice how often would one confuse "go" with "speak" in real life? No more than one confuses "to", "too" and "two" in English, which are also only differentiated by spelling. The important thing is to get into real usage as soon as possible.
Dear Cure Dolly. Just a question. The U TSU RU group 'te' form is って。Does is not have a 'ta' form った？
It does. Every て-form is also a た form. So it is った as you say.
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 🙂 ありがとうございます。
rest in peace
hello again Dolly! how about the word benkyou as in study in english? is it an exception to these rules? because i saw at other sources that it uses the 'shite' form although it ends with u, so shouldn't it be べんきょうって?
There is no rule that says that any word that ends with う is a verb. In fact, in order to be a verb, a word must end with an actual う-row kana beyond any kanji. 勉強 (べんきょう) as you see clearly does not fulfil this condition. Therefore it can't be a verb. It doesn't end with an い either, so it can't be an adjective. It has to be a noun. This kind of noun is called a する noun. This means that we can put する on the end of it to use it as a verb. Please see this video: ua-cam.com/video/8AXyP5GeJFg/v-deo.html
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 thank you Dolly! now my confusions are saved. thank you for making this series! it really helps a lot
hi dolly! great video again, i have a question though. why are we changing the verb? it is it to indicate tense? im fairly sure that is the reason and I'm probably just second guessing myself, but any clarification would be great.
Where exactly are you referring to?
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 hi dolly. I suppose most examples given in this video are what i'm referring to. as you covered in the previous video, て establishes a present tense, while た establishes a past tense. so changing an いる based verb to いて would put it in the present tense, and the same should carry over when changing godan verbs to end in its て or た forms right? is that the premise of the video or am i missing something?
@@ChairZomg The video is only talking about how to make て and た forms. We've already talked about た-form which makes the past tense. て-form does a lot of things. More than we could cover in one video. First we need to learn about verb types and how to make it. て on its own does not establish a present tense. It is simply a connective form that allows us to attach いる which makes the continuous tense and is normally in the present (to make a past continuous we use いた).
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 Ah I see! Thank you for clearly that up Dolly! I'm excited to continue learning from these videos so I can dive headfirst into immersion :)
Ah Dolly Sensei,
Why is it I often hear 待ってください but I sometimes also hear お待ち下さい? Is お待ち some sort of noun here, and if so shouldn't it be omachi-'o'-kudasai? Or is it that i-stem renyoukei thing?
お待ちください is an example of keigo (敬語), which is the level _above_ です・ます. People tend to call です・ます "polite language" although I prefer the term "formal". Keigo really _is_ polite language and has a whole set of forms for elevating the actions/possesions of one's hearer and humbling one's own. In some cases the grammatical structures are not the same as the ones we have been learning up to now - it is like a different mini-language. It also has different vocabulary in some cases. For example だ・です becomes でございます. It isn't as daunting as it sounds because it is a relatively limited set of structures.
All Japanese people can understand it, but many have difficulty in using it. Employees who need it often receive some training. I will be doing a series of lessons on it at some point but it isn't scheduled for the near future. So expressions like お待ちください will be used by shop assistants (or anyone) addressing customers, people addressing superiors, and some characters in anime etc. use some degree of keigo, usually to indicate (not necessarily realistically) that they come from higher-class backgrounds (the same people who will call their mother お母さま etc.) So for now I would just regard this as a keigo formula for 待ってください. We'll look at keigo structure later.
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49
Ah I see, thanks for the explanation. Ok, I'll deal with the keigo's esoterica some other time.
As I'm going through these videos about grammar, I have doughts I'm learning Japanese in the "correct order". What would you say, is there a adviseable "path" through your videos or the pursuit of learning this language?
I would recommend watching the first 20 videos of this numbered series in order (best to use the Playlist: ua-cam.com/video/pSvH9vH60Ig/v-deo.html ). After that, order is less important. With the first ones each one is building on information in the videos before it, so it is important to watch them in order. This is only a structure course so it will not by itself teach you the language. In fact I would argue that you can't learn the language from any course. All a course can do is give you the equipment for learning the language. My favored way of learning the language is 1. Get a grasp of the structure (that is what this course does). 2. Learn some basic vocabulary (I'll be talking about this in my next video). and 3. Immerse with native material from an early stage. I believe the easiest and most effective way to do this is with the "Anime Method" which I outline here: ua-cam.com/video/xhEnMieHtec/v-deo.html
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 I personally think something like lingq is a lot more useful if you don't like to use anki. It's especially useful if your learning is driven by song lyrics, although you've already commented that it's outside your area of expertise.
Hi Dolly! Thank you so much for this lesson, your lessons really are the best. Can you help me? I'm stuck at this lesson because I can't practice the rules you have presented by making myself practice sentences. Could you possibly just reply with one, or possibly two sentences with the romaji and english and then I will be able to use the examples you give me to practice the rest of what you have taught here by making some examples for myself. Thank you so much for an awesome channel!
Thank you so much for your kind appreciation೭੧(❛▿❛✿)੭೨ Sentences aren't really relevant to this particular video because I am only showing how to _make_ the て-form, not how to _use_ it. Once you know how to make it, there are several ways to use it and I show these in different videos - and of course I do give sentences to demonstrate them. For example we learn how to use て-form to make compound sentences here: ua-cam.com/video/3X2ZCWazrDw/v-deo.html or how to make the continuous present and various other things here: ua-cam.com/video/PsTsliRe2Cg/v-deo.html
However, if you are learning this for the first time, I do recommend going through the course in order. We will have sentences as we come to the relevant uses.
Thanks Dolly! Ok, that is perfect, I will watch the other two videos and also keep going until we apply them. I'm really enjoying your classes so far, thanks so much.
I am really happy to be helping you. Please ask questions whenever you need to.
This makes much more sense after rewatching a few times. Though the question remains: how does one figure out which kanji gets which verb stem. Was that covered earlier and I just forgot?
Kanji don't get verb stems. Verbs do. Kanji are often a part of the way a word is written but that has no bearing on verb stems.
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 interesting. Are there any kanji nouns that can form different verbs? Such as 歩く hypothetically having a verb counterpart 歩つ, which describes a different action?
@@x2bounty The い-stem of a verb in itself forms a noun ua-cam.com/video/_qj9ZkAC2tE/v-deo.html (but this is a bit more advanced so you can take a peek if you like but don't worry about learning it). There are lots of kanji that on their own are nouns (nearly every all-kanji word is a noun) but also form one or more verbs. Also the same kanji can form more than one verb with a different meaning. For example 行く (いく) as we know means "go" but 行う (おこなう) means perform or carry out - often an event or ceremony but can be all kinds of activities.
With 歩く (あるく) the same kanji is also used in 歩む (あゆむ) which also means walk. Kanji are very versatile. But nothing to worry about if we take things one word at a time.
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 does the ending sound of a standalone noun have bearing on which stem the verb form has?
@@x2bounty None at all. Verb-stes are determined by what is attached to them. This is logic, not euphonics.
I have a question Dolly. When I Google translate 飲んで ,it gives me drink instead of drinking , according to Google translate 飲んでる means drinking and same goes to some words u mentioned in video such as asobu . Is it because of the Google's translation?
飲んで does not mean drink or drinking. It is the て-form of 飲む so out of context it doesn't mean anything (て-form is a connector). If you connect いる to it, it then means drinking. 飲んでいる is sometimes contracted to 飲んでる which is why Google Translate renders it as such (I wouldn't rely too much on GT, but it is right here).
But isnt て form is use to make continuous present tense?
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 I'm a little confused . When should I convert into てform
If I said 「この本がトニーに属する。」would I need to conjugate 「属する」 to 「属すって」or not?
属する here is "dictionary dumping" - taking a word for its English translation (always unreliable) and assuming that it can be plugged into a Japanese sentence. 属そる means "belong to" but in the sense of belonging to a club or being affiliated to something. However, if it were the right word there would be no need to "conjugate" it or put it into て-form.
Wait so does Shite become Shita for past tense, like with every other level?
While the pitch of the voice is a bit too high for my liking the information here is great. Well done.
Thank you for your kind appreciation. Sorry to be a squeaky androidʕ•ᴥ•ʔ
hello, when we are changing the verb into its ta-form do we need to add the small tsu then ta or just ta? thank youuuu
add the small tsu
Do you have a video that explains the meaning of the te form? Textbooks say it's like a command form 食べて where "tabete" means "eat!" is this really correct? I've seen many sentences used in anime that end with te form verbs, but through context I don't think they were giving a command... I know te form can be used to link sentences, so are there cases where te form is used, and then the rest of the sentence is implied?
If someone could recommend a video that goes in depth on te form I'd appreciate it. I've seen the te-aru te-iru ones etc... But I still don't feel so comfortable with the nuances of te form by itself I guess
て-form alone doesn't really mean anything - it is a connector. However it does get used alone as an abbreviation of Xてください or similar, which means that in practice it is used as a request or command.
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 Ah, okay I see how that works. Thank you Dolly Sensei! I think sometimes I psych myself out a bit by thinking there must be some meaning I don't know, and that's why i'm not understanding it, when in actuality I'm just overthinking it and trying to "translate" the words rather than understand the Japanese
Why are we adding something different to each verb in the first place. Is it making it ING or ED or does each one mean something different! It was never explained
This is how the て-form is made. It is the same て-form whichever way it is made - the difference is just in the way it is made with different verbs (that is why I introduced verb-types in the same video).
What it does is another question. It does a number of things and has no exact equivalent in English. In this video we are simply introducing how to make it. What we do with it is a whole different subject which we will look at in later videos in this course. One of them we already know from the previous video. Others we will learn as we go along. The た-form is very simple though and just makes the past tense. Once you have learned that you don't need to worry about all kinds of oddities like go-went, come-came, eat-ate, speak-spoke etc. etc. You have to learn five different forms and you're good to go for every verb.
I want to ask something, if words ending with る followed by って, then why たべる isn't become たべって? Thanks!
You need to watch the video again carefully. There are two main types of verbs called ichidan and godan. Ichidan verbs always end with る and they ever drop the る and attach whatever they are going to attach. 食べる is an ichidan verb so it becomes 食べて. If it were a godan verb it would be 食べって. There is only a small range of verbs where we have to remember whether they are ichidan or godan - only a certain type of る-ending verb can be ichidan. The video explains this.
PS Please watch the video on this page again first to get the matter straight, but if you want a trick for remembering which verbs are ichidan and which are godan (it affects more than just て-form, please see this video: ua-cam.com/video/VDmaSJ4s6Qo/v-deo.html
今ドーリー先生のビデオを見ている
Thanks for the video, this lesson helped me remember all the conjugations in such an easy way. Personally I would prefer to have the romaji removed; it’s confusing for me to follow and I would rather have the lessons with just kana/furigana/kanji instead. This is great otherwise!
Sorry if there is something I missed from the video. If Ichidan ends with iru/eru, how come きる becomes きって instead of きて
"All ichidan end in iru/eru" does not mean "all iru/eru ending verbs are ichidan". They aren't. There is a minority of iru/eru ending godans. Here is how to deal with them: ua-cam.com/video/VDmaSJ4s6Qo/v-deo.html
PS interestingly きる can become きって or きて depending on whether it is the one that means "cut" or the one that means "wear".
Cure Dolly-san. Is this correct？ 日がのぼる = 日がのぼっている。And how does one put it in the past tense? Is it 日がのぼったいた。
日がのぼる = 日がのぼっている is not correct. 日がのぼる = "the sun rises". 日がのぼっている = "the sun is rising" - they are similar but different in both English and Japanese. 日がのぼったいた doesn't mean anything, but 日がのぼっていた means "the sun was rising".
Organic Japanese with Cure Dolly Thank you very much. Yes, I should have separated the first two instead of putting an equals sign😅 My first instinct for the last one was to write it like you wrote it but I changed my mind 😭 Thank you very much as always. I won’t make that mistake again now that you’ve corrected me.
@@qaidikramuddin Your first instinct was correct. That's a good sign.
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 😃 ありがとうございます、先生。
Done
ichidan Rules!
さすがです、ドリー先生！
ドリさんまだめちゃくちゃ可愛いけど (๑•ᴗ•๑)♡
I'm already able to form simple sentences and I'm loving it!! Of course, I still have a lot of grammar to face but japanese it's starting to feel like the puzzle I can vaguely begin to understand.
I'm up to lesson 8, but I like to rewatch this videos and catch up things I may have overlooked at. Thank you so much! We really appreciate your work! ありがとうございます *˙︶˙*)ﾉ
私は可愛いと言われて嬉しいです. I am very happy that your Japanese adventure is getting under way! I am happy that you are re-watching the videos because I think that as one advances one sees new "layers" of meaning.
are there exercises for this episode?
7:09 先生、質問があります。日本人の俺が英語話者に日本語を教える時、"a ten-ten" と言えますか？ つまり、"a ten-ten" は 英語を話す日本語学習者にとって、馴染みある一般的な用語なのですか？ それとも正規の文法用語「濁点」(daku-ten) が、より一般的ですか？
説明しなければ「a ten-ten」という表現は皆には分かるとは限らないと思います。この動画の中には皆が見えるから大丈夫ですけどね。「濁点」といったら分からない人が多いと思います。「A ten-ten」のほうが分かりやすいのです。「なるほど、あの双子はtenとtenですね」という感じですね°˖✧◝(⁰▿⁰)◜✧˖° 時々「two small marks」などの表現は使われます。
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 お答えありがとうございました。
ところで私の書いた「Alice in Kanji Land」という本では、アリスは「ten-ten hooking」という表現を使います。それは「連濁」を意味します。アリスには「rendaku」は難しいから、濁点は小さいフックという比喩が使われます。
Excusee me
What's the difference of
Shinda (godan)
Shinimashita (ichidan)
There is no ichidan verb here. しぬ is a godan verb. ます is an irregular godan-type helper verb that can be added to other verbs to make them formal. しんだ is the past form of しぬ. しにます is しぬ with the helper verb ます attached to its stem. しにました is しにます in the past tense.
I recommend _not_ using the ます helper-verb until you understand basic Japanese structure.
But if you want to know more about it, please see this lesson: ua-cam.com/video/ymJWb31qWI8/v-deo.html
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 im quite bad at studying on my own but your video help me and seeing you reply to us we really appreciate it
where can i find worksheets 2 and onwards?
Is this correct?
きょう、わたしがあるいて: Today, I am walking.
わたしがあるいた: I was walking.
あした、わたしがあるく: Tomorrow, I will walking.
To make the continuous present (be walking) you need not only to make the て-form but also add the "be" which is いる. So the first one is:
きょう、わたしがあるいている
The second one is correct.
The third one is correct, If you mean "I will walk". The English is wrong because you can't say "I will walking". But if you mean "I will walk" the Japanese is correct.
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 Thank you! Well, yeah, that's pretty much what I want to say in third one, sorry because I'm not native.
For the first though, is the "-いる" the same thing as "eru/iru verb", or is it different and we'll talk about it later for continous present?
@@kupamanduka Don't worry! I am not teaching English anyway, but it's important that we are clear about what the Japanese means (via Englsh).
Ichidan verbs end in something from the え-row +る or something from the い-row +る. "Iru/eru" is just a romaji shorthand for describing that fact. いる the word means "be".
I don't seem to understand when the "ta" form is used. Perhaps you explained it in another video but I don't recall that. Hopefully, you explain it in the next video. By the way, your class is amazing and so helpful, I am incredibly thankful to have found this! Now pardon my Japanese, but: だいすきです！ (I hope that was correct, I'm really not sure if that's the right way of saying it in this case)
Yes, that's absolutely right. た-form just makes the simple past tense and as this course goes in sequence that was explained in the previous lesson (4) which is here ua-cam.com/video/lU5rmrAORDY/v-deo.html I am so happy that you are finding this class helpful. がんばってください。
Is the Ta-form for oyogu --> oyoida?
Yes, that's correct.
sentence practice:
今勉強している。でも、3時にアニメを見る。
I'm currently studying. But, at 3 o'clock I will watch anime
Good!
ありがとうございます
Why is she the only one who has managed not to make an explanation of Japanese grammar a disjointed abomination of useless vocabulary and idiosyncratic conversational phrases???
I made a document condensing all the information from this video onto one page drive.google.com/open?id=1MKCnfSnPolZiG-kA0aPgBkT9ifNYT2UZbeXIrt7jGmA
feel free to use it as you like, you can edit a copy for yourself if you want to change it. it doesn't have romanji for the words so you might want to add that.
Thank you so much! This really gives a quick-reference to the video so that people can refer to it easily. Actually I stop including romaji in the lessons after a while. It's a trade-off between not wanting to make life too difficult for people who are still a bit unused to hiragana and getting them to think in hiragana (which really is vital). I probably erred on the side of keeping it a bit longer, so I think the chart is good the way it is! Since I have your permission I'm thinking of popping this onto a page on KawaJapa and linking it from the information section. When I get a minute! Thank you again!
PS The chart is currently view-only so I can't download it.
you can download it, 100%. just hit "file" on the top left and download is one of the only options. when you are logged into google you can also save a copy on your own google drive and edit that one.
I didn't add romaji to force myself to read them. go ahead and use it on your site but a mention would be nice :)
Ara! You're right! I'm afraid I rarely use cloud-based things (internet a bit flakey here) so I am rather unused to them!
Yes I'll definitely credit you when I use it. If you have a preferred name (other than your UA-cam handle) please let me know.
What about 行く that becomes 行って and not 行いて?
I mentioned that at the end. What else about it?
@@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 I watched the video a bunch of times and I asked it because I basically rewatched a lot the middle and forgot that you explained it in the end, my question was exactly what you explained so the fact that it has only this irregularity. Thank you very much! :D
@@diabollich Oh good. I'm glad that's cleared up. Japanese has very few irregularities, luckily!