No, TikTok is not the reason kids are afraid of aging (Gloss Over 0.18)
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- Опубліковано 11 кві 2024
- Why the sudden panic? why is everyone running to Sephora at the age of 10 to get a thousand dollars worth of products to "stop ageing"?
I think it's not about the new generation looking older, and it all runs a lot deeper.
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I was doing my masters degree in 2020 when the pandemic hit, my last academic year. Had to go back home to my tiny rural town and have literally not being able to leave since. 4 years of my life not only lost but feeling like a teenager again. I have a degree, a masters degree, several volunteering work and many many courses. Tell me why am I unemployed with the excuse of "you don't have enough experience" when NOBODY 10 years older than me had to do even half of what I've done to get a way better job than what I can aspire to. Why we have to carry the blame? We were thrown into this world that was already trashed and in shambles and I'm tired of older people in one way blaming me for not doing enough and in the other hand infantilizing me for having hobbies when that's literally the only thing I can enjoy and own
Yeah like no wonder there’s a surge in aging fear, ppl don’t get to live their lives to actually feel like that physical change is proportional to the amount wealth/quantifiable experiences(like vacations, instead of experiences like war, cancer, poverty, etc, which are the only experiences you get regardless)
@@LisaFevral oh wow, i haven't even gotten to watch the video yet at all and I feel like this comment alone summarises all of my fears. I logically don't care about aging, it SHOULD even be a good thing to *get* to age. But I'm at a job making more than I expected to make when I was in highschool yet still 100% unable to move out of my childhood home (or, if I did, I'd be bleeding money very badly).
You are very lucky since you have a family that can economically substain you
@@FoundSheep-AN yeah I'm lucky my mom is a widow ans the state pays her way below minimum wage and she kindly sustains me and her with that or I will be on the streets, I'm aware thanks
I'm in the same position. 4 years of my life gone, and I had to postpone my masters degree, so I'm just finishing it now. pandemic ruined everything
Blaming TikTok for this fever pitch fear of aging is kinda like being of those people who still blame Yoko Ono for “breaking up the Beatles”
i literally just went to buy a lollipop and a man looked me dead in the eye told me “what kind of adult eats lollipops?”… Like if you hate fun just say it.
Omfg as if candy is a sin like damn😭😭
Same thing with someone I know. Their daughter and her friends (early 20s) went to an arcade to have fun after work and he said that it was for kids, like damn you're not allowed to have fun as an adult anymore?
He probably won’t allow himself to have fun or is afraid to be judged by other. Because that is just sad!
"They are not dead, why would they not go out and enjoy themselves?"
Beautiful line
Idk what people are talking about when they say gen Zs look older than millennials. I am 28 y o and whenever I look at someone 5 years younger than me, I think they look like teenagers.
The part about adults not being allowed to enjoy things is so true. I see so many older people not having any kind of passion or interest and becoming little by little joyless people. Becoming like that was my biggest fear about getting older, but hopefully I am avoiding that.
My theory is that since some millennials are still clinging to idea they pass for a teenager they get very insecure seeing gen z be in their 20s and look their age. They get mad over the realization they might not look as young as they thought so they're projecting on gen z to also make them miserable and insecure.
Nothing new every previous generation was doing that over different things, millennials didn't broke the abuse cycle they kinda made it worst by making it widespread.
this is also the reason why so many ppl are afraid of ageing - we continuously try to dictate ppl who are older than us what is appropriate for them to enjoy, while the constraints of it are unreasonable at best, and juvenile at worst! if we didn't act like ageing = doing nothing but taxes, less ppl would be shaking in their boots
I remember about a year ago meeting a 60 yo guy who actually enjoyed life. He was in college and was traveling and learning italian with his wife. I was literally so amazed that I will always remember him. This man is my inspiration and I wanna be him when I grow old lol
It's so sad that someone just enjoying themselves as an adult is so rare that you get surprised when it actually happens. Ofcourse people want to cling to their youth when every adult around them looks so miserable.
I think it’s for people who are chronically online. Everyone looks ambiguous now. They can be 20-35 Both gen z and millennials. I blame the makeup.
@@papkinn Millie bobbie brown, lorde and billie eylish look older than they are. Every generation will cling to their youth. Gen z and alpha wont be exceptions. In 5 years gen z will say gen alpha looks older than them.
People love to make it seem like those who fear aging are superficial, but like, we live in an age where you can literally see your societal worth diminish.
I'll explain my experience. I'm someone who was a kpop fan and i dreamed of being an idol myself since i was like 15, and that dream got crushed as over the years the age of debuting idols got lower and lower until one day the company i wanted to audition for, put the age limit at 18 and younger and i couldn't audition because i was a year over the limit. That, along with experiences like, me turning 20 and immediately getting called old by my younger cousins and just in general a life where i was really sheltered and wasn't allowed to have a life, frankly really fucked with me. It was like, years of dreaming, hoping and practicing were dashed simply because another year had past even though i didn't physically or mentally change, i was seen as unfit for something. How do you expect people to not feel robbed, especially when you live in a world where people make it seem like your teen years are gonna be the best years of your life, filled with love, friends and these fun experiences and then suddenly it's locked off to you because of a number that frankly barely means shit.
But anyway, thank you so much Lisa for speaking on this, we stan a queen who speaks nothing but facts.
Yes, that’s a huuuuge factor as to why it’s not a phenomenon that we can just ignore, since it actually affects our opportunities and aspirations!
The concept of having specific deadlines and life goals to meet by a certain age imposed by society is what some academics call chrononormativity. The idea being that it forces everyone into a mold that is convenient for governments and corpos, and shames anyone who doesn't fit in or makes it veeery inconvenient. For example, some scholarships depending on if you finish your program in exactly two years regardless of your situation would be considered chrononormative, or having student prices only applicable up to a certain age, usually around mid 20's. So far it's not that researched but, hey, maybe this comment will give the idea to more people!
Yeah, like parental insurance ending for ppl who are either 25 and up or 18 but decided not to pursue a degree
At the same time I feel like a person's youth lasts longer than before in terms of living. Like before everyone had kids by the time they were 30, but not as much now. There's this weird competition in terms of who is younger. Like being older doesn't have to be a bad thing lol
Having kids doesn’t have to be bad either! I’m the average modern person without kids before my thirties, yet I do realize our biology doesn’t change over 50 years. It’s not uncool to have responsibilities and independence in life, it’s ok to be a grown-up
@@PettyBlue1 That's true! I don't have kids, but I feel like becoming a parent forces you to mature. Doesn't necessarily mean your youth is over, but it's difinitely different
Firstly, love your makeup!
Secondly, totally believe that a lot of women's form of escapism and coping from the real world is obsessing over youth and beauty. It's uncontrollable while also feeling like something you can manipulate. There's like a personal sense of achievement when you look young and have clear skin even though some people dont need to do as much to meet that standard, have access to resources and lifestyles that lets them, and should not be treated as some marker of superiority to begin with.
Yeah, it’s kinda a form of control, same with eating/working out
I felt like depressed with myself when I turned 18 last year. Thank God I realize that was ridiculous. Something more, I have noticed that, when I'm talking with my uni classmates, they usually only focus on sexual things because "that's what adults do" and I just wanted to talk about my favorite girly and childish series... Why are they so afraid to admit that they find enjoyable that kind of things?
I will finish watching the video later but for now my thoughts on this are like this: it’s not the responsibility of anyone on the internet to teach kids that aging is good or to police what they post to appease kids, BUT actions have consequences and the consequence for constantly posting that type of content is that kids will see it and get affected by it. The influencers who love to brandish that title when a brand sends them their newest lipstick but imedietally claim they “never meant to influence anyone” when their content has negative effects are cowards.
The internet does affect ppl, but I think it’s all media imo, and the biggest reason for a sudden uptick in these issues with ageing is definitely a lot deeper rooted than just seeing things online
@@LisaFevral no for sure it just annoys me when specifically influencers were acting surprised and offended that their videos could possibly have contributed to the problem haha
Oh yeah, that’s surprisingly common ahahah
Your point about adults not getting to enjoy things without scrutiny is so true. I remember when the whole gez vs millennial thing kicked off, one of the main things that started it was this buzzfeed (who else 🙄) article that was something like "questions people have for millenials". And so many of the "questions" were making fun of their hobbies and the slang they use and just implying that millennials were too old to be acting the way they do. Not to mention the whole "Disney adult/Harry Potter adult" thing. It can definitely be cringe, but a lot of times those people weren't harming anyone. Its so weird that people genuinely think once you reach a certain age you're only supposed care about your job and your free time should just be running errands. Thats not a life, people need to be able to enjoy themselves.
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Hi Lisa! I couldn't agree more!! This is really something that is not being addressed... Recently, I saw someone posting a meme making fun of 20yos complaining about aging... and what I answered that person, fits perfectly with this video:
"Hi! I'm one of those 20yo (don't worry I'm not a hater! lol) I just think these comments are missing the point, at least from my perspective. The reason why I dread aging is because I'm slowly starting to see the signs of my age (I'm over 25), yet I don't feel like it. My life is pretty much the same as it was when I was a teenager. It's only been a few months since I actually finished my studies. I don't have a job yet. I don't even have my drivers license. I'm a dependent adult. So, a teenager. It's scary to see my body showing the signs of having lived a life I haven't lived. And adding to that, seeing younger people having success, being way more ahead in life than me (I am aware that this is a ridiculous notion, everyone has their own pace). It makes me feel like I missed my chance. The train took off and I'm not in it. The 20yos that dread aging are not dreading the age itself. They are not superficial. But they are aware that society is, and they (20yos) are "losing their value" in it."
Well, that person never answered me back, so...🧍♀️🤷♀️
I think it's important to pay attention as to why someone is where they are. many ppl can be "successful" in the world that we built at the age of 1, bc they were born into it, and on the outside all fiscal success looks the same
I hate the feeling old when is my cripple body gets worse. Saying that "I'm old" since middle school is sad. Unfortunately, being crippled gets worse as you grow older.
Yeah, it’s such a big thing taht rarely gets talked about. Functioning with “old” physical issues, but “young” mental ones is very difficult
I’m older than you (in my 30s) but was diagnosed with cervical cancer right after the pandemic “ended”? Then had to have a hysterectomy due to the cancer. I feel like I lost like 4 years and a lot of my savings since I live in the USA.
I feel bitter and I feel for everyone who feels similar. ❤ when it comes to looks, most people try to be nice and subtract x amount of years and people hear that and run with it.
I think I was obsessed with age myself (skincare and spf) but after cancer? I’m just happy to be living. I don’t say that to invalidate anyone who is fearful of aging but just expressing my own feelings right now.
I hope you’re doing okay. (And anyone who sees this comment) ❤
Yeah I’m just happy to be healthy(hopefully ahahah), but I still feel angry about the state of the world and things that are influencing me outside of what I do myself
@@LisaFevralI’m glad that you’re healthy and I hope you continue to be healthy. ❤
You have every right to be upset with the state of things. It only seems to be getting worse. Not only do we have toxicity thrown at us by anyone with a smartphone, paid influencers and ads but now also bots. This is for sure not the future I expected.
The self-imposed restrictions to what is considered 'acting your age' serves only to push that agenda. The idea that once you turn a 'magic number' you're no longer allowed certain things, like joy😂
I relate to you saying you can't stand ppl complaining about things they're in reach of. It's demoralising seeing and hearing ppl completely lack the drive to take hold of their life. When I was in uni, so many of my class mates would joke about dropping out. And it was daily. This has nothing to do with making light of the situation, they'd ritualistically drone on and on about how boring and trite it was to be there. I loved my course, I loved all that was handed to me. And I can't expect ppl to enjoy what I do of course. But there's a line in the sand. At one point it becomes toxic. That's why I'm so picky with who I let close. I'm intolerant of ppl without goals and ambitions, they don't interest me. They've proven to be the most unreliable and downright depressing company.
I grew up around women mostly, both my granddads are dead. So I know beauty in a face that's lived in. Wrinkles, warts, and all. I moved to the UK and suddenly realised, all that I know doesn't suit the beauty standard. All that I was wasn't fuckable.
And that's the greatest sin of women, being unattractive to man 😒
To age like fine wine does not mean for your skin to be tight and flat, for your body to remain in the condition it was when you born, for your hair and teeth to be straight and never off-colour. Wine rots, its infused with the most delicious fruit of the season. Its battered by worker's feet. Its squeezed and drained and filtered. Its left to rot in a custom barrel in a musty cellar. Its not the taste of fresh grape that makes the wine fine, but the age.
Your video was brilliant ❤ I think you did more than enough to breakdown so many complex issues. There's more to be said, but that's true for any topic. I hope this reaches those who need to hear it but don't want to. They're often those women and men society casts out first for being the tallest blade of grass.
Also, your jewellery line?? It's so pretty 😭❤️ can't wait for payday yoo
On the topic of ppl who have goals and ambitions, I have realized that what I always meant by wanting to be surrounded by ppl like that is actually more about wanting to be around secure people. Ppl who have their priorities aligned in a more compatible way to mine
I'm literally seventeen and my mum wants me to be mature and adult, just because I like dolls:( She doesn't really have emotional maturity, which makes it worse.
It would be fine if there would’ve been maturity on her side at least, but if there are none - it’s hard to even have a discussion that leads anywhere eh
If you know your mom doesn't have emotional maturity, then don't let her biases rub off on you. Ofc, part of maturity is knowing where to place time on everything, including hobbies of any kind. Because even adults need to embrace their inner child in one way or another.
I'm 29 and I love Bratz! Have been obsessed since I was 9 and nothing could stop that obsession, not my parents, not my peers, no one. Stick to your passion and forget what others say. You are not an adult yet and even if you were, what does it matter. Hobbies are for you, not for others.
@@ebeee thank you so much, have a wonderful day
I agree with all your point and want to add that, most of the people complaining are WOMEN. I think that another major component of that is the inherent misogyny in the world.
Society says that women are less and less useful the older they get. It's like you're less of a person the older you get. The idea of becoming worthless in the eyes of others(no matter how subconscious) has got to also be terrifying.
It's Men who want women as young as possible.
10% of men are Pedro or have at least Pedro Tendencies
yeah I agree, that's why we have to actively combat it, bc even if we aren't old yet, it doesn't make sense that older women have to deal with this nonsense
I recently noticed that on tv and yt commercials: almost everything is bought by a young(20ish) woman. And I'm not talking about "fancy" stuff like fashion or skincare, but also furniture or bank services 😂 Man, I'ld be lucky if I can buy that stuff in my 40s!
Wow I agree with that!!! About the enjoyment!! I’ve been realizing like why can’t I like something!?! Because of my age bruh???
it's funny that it starts as soon as you are with peers in kindergarten ahahah
I feel like the social media enforces the idea of becoming successful and wealthy onto young adults through the influencers that are millionaires In their 20’s and similar stories. I’m not jealous or anything (actually I kinda am), but I’m genuinely interested how things like that are possible and achievable without coming from a rich or at least financially stable household. Sometimes I’m feeling really down because I’m thinking that I’m already failing and I’m not going to be as successful. But sometimes it’s probably smart to look at things you already achieved. Like I moved to another country by the age of 11 with my family without knowing the language at all, but still managed to finish my middle and highschool education with a relatively good grade, despite teachers telling me I’m better of working in a factory and I’m now studying the subject I want in the university that I chose my self. We got it folks, keep on fighting for your goals💪
Social media cant force certain a ideas unless you welcome it we all have diffrent algorithms and I don't think teenager are watching those people
I think it’s important for us to also remember that those ideals of making obscene amounts of money at an early age usually comes with glorification of doing ANYTHING for it, including scams, etc. not all financial successes are equal
Can’t help but feel incredibly frustrated whenever I see this superficial discourse online about aging, people who have never experienced chronic illness or serious mental health conditions cannot fathom how debilitating it is when your body is not functioning properly, physical signs of aging should be the least of our worries, it makes sense though that your economic situation would lead you to find other little things to worry over because at least capitalism has a supposed solution for that in a plastic jar, neatly packaged and shipped to your door…
Lisa (along with a few other creators) balance the world’s equilibrium in our favour and I thank you for it.
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My whole life I was told I looked younger because I'm short. When I first moved to the UK at 18 the border guard stopped me cuz he thought I was 14 travelling all by myself. I was 19 when the pandemic started and up until recently I felt stuck at that age, could not comprehend that I graduated university and have a job now and adult responsibilities and that my face doesn't look 14 anymore, that people aren't surprised to hear my age now. Unfortunately, I am not immune to social expectations and do wish to get that feeling back because it was something that was drilled into my head over the years and it was something I was proud of.
I think this is something many people deal with, it's kinda like people that were called "gifted children" growing up, and then when they grew up realizing that there's no difference anymore and that advantage is gone
once again, she eats with the topic rant
Your take on our obsession with aging being linked to our economic situation is spot on. I'm turning 32 in a few weeks and feel ridiculous.
to add, the pandemic made us look at ourselves on a screen for so long in zoom, and that can mess up the perspective of the self. not only that, but the sense of always being seen, even though the camera is off (miss foucault s panopticon) makes us perform every second an idealized self, and it stills happens on social media
also, sorry for always calling myself old, i just do it bc i’ve dealt with chronic pain since i was 10yo. it does bother me when others do it though
Yeah I think the performance never ends, that’s why I don’t like ppl just blaming everything on whichever app is the most popular at the moment
Yeah I get it, don’t worry! I’m talking about people who are not suffering from anything, yet say that they are old and done for at 20yo
My best friend died by suicide almost 2 years ago. I WISH i could see her age but i can't. I can't put into words how i feel since that incident but i can say i want to grow older, as a person who tried to commit suicide multiple times in the past (before my friend did it) i try to enjoy life as much as i can. Not really about the topic of the video but i felt like writing it. Life is hard but the best oneself can do is build connections with good people, people who you love and are worth your love.
Thanks for the video Lisa!!🌸✨
Edited: omg the makeup sooo pretty!
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as a fellow slavic sister i always love your social commentary, so insightful and on point. P.S. your eyeshadow looks gorg X
Thank you🥰🤍🤍
Slavic grlies unite! But fr I enjoy hearing the perspective of eastern European ppl in media because not only is it rare, but its refreshing to here someone that calls out bs when it needs to be done
PREACH GIRL! PREACH! I’m 23 asexual and sex repulsed and I mostly enjoy PG content cuz the R rated stuff usually is really horny or gory, and that just makes me feel uncomfortable, besides de lack of respect that animation gets, (even good adult animation like inside job,Harley queen or a lot of anime) if you are an adult or even a teen that is into family friendly cartoons, you’ll get bullied for it, I was really into my little pony g4 from 12 years old until senior year when the show ended, I went to highschool senior year with a my little pony backpack that still rocks and I still use now than I’m 23, and I got bullied in highschool and I know some people don’t take me seriously at college either but now between conforming or being judged, I prefer being judge. I’ve always been into cartoons, phineas and ferb, my little pony,gravity falls, Steven universe, Star vs (that ended badly), Infinity train, the owl house, and now I’m obsessed with dc superhero girls 2019, and that one doesn’t have an overarching story and it’s 7+ but it’s fun and makes me feel good. I guess i like looking younger than I am so people would be less turn off by my rainbow shoelaces, like “looking like a highschool girl” allows me more to indulge in my tastes rather that looking like a “grown up woman”? Even tho I get looked down anyways
Lol why are we literally the same person! Have you seen amphibia? I wasn’t into the art style at first but it’s a really good mix of slice of life and overarching epic quest❤
As 22 year old who likes both r rated stuff and pg stuff, i've seen both sides of this. It's like if you like pg stuff, people think it's cute to be a dick and make you seem like a sensitive, immature person and if you like rated r stuff, it's like people think it's cool to make you seem like a perverted menace and it's like, can people just leave others alone for once. Like if someone is having fun and not harming you, shut the hell up.
No normal, safe person genuinely enjoys r rated stuff casually @@hadrianhexe9603
@@slothbunny3382 I stared it recently, since I don’t have Disney + I have to go the extra mile to get the episodes, but the internet spoiled me already ;-;
Imagine being a teenager who is already insecure about their skin seeing all these adults making commentary about how they are “aging like spoiled milk” like thanks!!!! for the second serving of self esteem issues 😓
I could not attend my Erasmus due to covid, went back to home because uni shut down, did not enjoyed my senior year of uni, could not see my boyfriend for months on end, went into depression for all the covid brought to my life, my country went deeper into economic crisis. Covid had stolen so much of our times and like you said formative years. I really felt understood in this video, thank you so much.
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I just want to say one thing. This video made me feel so seen and understood as a 23 y.o. Thank you.
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i love the byron target picture in the back 🫶
Honestly had no idea how fckd the world economy was until last week when I was doing research for an econ class I have like I really need to start keeping up with the news 😭
if you do, do so sparingly....you really don't want to ingrain that negativity into your mind. 🥲🥲even just simply reading headlines, will break your mind if you look at it too often
I am constantly catching myself on calculating the ifs (if I will do that before my 30s I will be accomplished) vs my age - and it keeps getting worse and worse and it is honestly sad how much worth the society we live in put on our achievements and how much more I feel like younger generations are overworked physically but also mentally with chasing the time that we don't really have. Anyways - pop off queen - that video was a great think piece
Im not that insecure of age or looks, cause i look like a baby and kinda sorta don't associate myself with femininity. But the thought that I'll never afford housing or even decent job is haunting me, I'm already in debt cause student loans and regret every my decision. At the same time im radical optimist like Dua Lipa.
23:14 to 24:23 is SO PROFOUND, thank you Lisa.
I turned 30 this year and i relate to this whole video so much. You helped me realise im afraid of aging because i dont earn much, i dont own a house, i cant afford shit lol. Im also disabled and that makes me earn less. And this translates into me being afraid of showing my age, but with nothing to show for it.
girl you're glowingggg
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this idea of time being stolen from you by global external factors is too real :,( 3 years of my life gone... thanks for talking about this, i am glad to see that I am not struggling alone. I wish you all the best, love your channel
Before I get into my spiel, I want to say that you are one of the most intelligent people I’ve ever heard speak. I appreciate not only your insight but also your consideration for the people affected by the issues you discuss. K, moving on lol. I appreciated hearing you talking about your anger at the pandemic and how it stole people’s prime years. A lot of my friends, or even just people on the internet, talk about how pandemic was a great time for them because they got to rest or work on hobbies or build a side hustle or make a career switch. It may be because most of my friends are a few years older than me and had already been in the workforce by then. For me (and most people, I thought) the pandemic was horrible! I was the most depressed I’ve ever been to the point that I can’t even really remember what happened during those years. It triggered a really intense episode of OCD. I just sat in bed, rotting and scrolling to forget my existence. But bc of the way people talk about how productive they were and how restored they felt, I just feel guilty for not making better use of my time. And that creates an anxiety that ties into the pressure you talked about to do/be/accomplish everything at the youngest age possible. If only I had worked harder during the pandemic, I could’ve accomplished xyz by now. With each passing year, I feel like I’m falling further and further behind because for 3-4 of those years, I was in survival mode-not hustling as I “should” have been. Like apparently everyone and their mother was (though I know that’s neither true nor realistic).
Yeah I think ppl who were happy during the pandemic are those who didn’t have deaths in the family and didn’t lose their jobs. Also it was probably one of the first times they went back to exploring new hobbies, so it felt refreshing, but only for those who were unaffected economically/physically
your insights are actually intelligent and new and diff than what everyone is yapping about like your points are REAL POINTS.
This!! I hit 30 and I'm pretty content but the milestone just made me compare myself to others and the "typical" milestones of salary, partner, house, etcetc and I was feeling lost. Plus the bio uterus clock, i don't even want kids but it feels scary to lose the option (even though mothers are getting older now too). So I feel a low level anxiety that spikes when I see signs of change, but the real problems are def my body being so overworked and frail bc of the work I do and the time I don't have to put into active hobbies. I have had an eye twitch for a month now and lifted a chair and fcked my shoulder, while I still imagine my body back in the days I did sports at school and could easy lift a chair LOL. Maybe I need to workout more by practicing throwing Molotov cocktails at capitalism...
I don't really fear aging as much as I fear death itself. But there are days when I as a man feel inadequate because of all the ripped and skinny guys they show on tv
Smart woman. You touched on some excellent points. I too am tired of hearing "old" especially from people who aren't. Enjoy life and stop overthinking the little things
Let's appreciate the hard work you put into your videos! the memes you use are ✨️iconic✨️ (please do a fashion rating video on kpop outfits that kpop idols wore🫶 I really enjoyed when you rated kpop groups 🤍)
Wow. I was diagnosed with a rare disease in 2021 so I also lost so many years due to the pandemic and sickness. I’ve looked up and I’m almost 30 now. I had a whole crisis last year trying to figure out wtf to do with my life. I’m doing better now but I have so much empathy for others.
Ommmmmmg 100% agree with you with hating hearing able bodied people complain !!! It’s so rare to come across people who understand what we’ve been through at such a young age. Time is such a strange concept to me now too. I truly enjoyed this video. Thank you for adding another layer for me 😊 subscribing and can’t wait to watch more!
Your takes are such a breath of fresh air.. I wish more people would talk about these things instead of the usual surface-level reactions.
yeah, I'm kinda tired of really shallow takes on UA-cam lately too
I agree, I'm so fed up with the way my generation talks about age. I'm turning 20 this year and I still feel so young, I haven't even started this huge new decade yet, I'm just 1 year out of high school and a legal adult, it feels like life is just starting. Yet a friend of mine turned 19 yesterday and couldn't stop talking about how old that made her feel and she hopes to be percieved as younger. She also worries a lot about wrinkles and physical signs of aging but like... our brains aren't even fully developed yet? We're literal teenagers...
omg that's crazy to be talking like that at 19! try not to let it get to you, bc it's just not a normal attitude that she's got
SPOT ON. i have no words, you nailed it
Girl you are so big brained for this it’s crazy. Extremely salient, intelligent and in-depth take.
"because most people are not enjoying things" ... yeah 😭 Having hobbies and focusing on small positive things and DOING things is the best defense. I'm not on most social media to try and avoid overthinking about this, but it's really been hitting me lately that while I may be worried about meeting milestones or whatever but my parents and my family are getting older as well and they won't be around forever, which really stresses me out lol. There were some family members who passed away shortly after the pandemic and I hadn't seen them for 2-3 years because of that...
I have to say that I was a lot more stressed out about my own aging in my early 20s than I am in my late 20s though. I've seen some of these "omg do I look old" videos and 1. stop posting your face on the internet for strangers to critique you masochist and 2. it's the makeup sometimes chiiiiiilll
it’s really hard to tell how old someone is. I know a 20yo man who looks 40, and I’ve seen many 25yo who look 15, and some 13yo who look 20 (in heavy makeup). this obsession with aging and judging people for looking or not looking their age is so stupid, but I agree that there are other reasons for it than just vanity/tik tok
Yeah I agree, everyone just looks different and that’s ok, it’s not a big deal, but the root of this wave is definitely deeper than social media
I just turned 25 a few days ago. I wasnt able to finish college because of covid. I'm going back in the fall to finish what I started at a new school, and I remember in deciding this feeling like I was "too old" for this, like I should have already achieved this by now, but like, no. I don't care if I'm 30, 40, 50, if I want to go back to school and if I have the means to, I should be able to. At the same time, I'm also very lucky that I do have the means to, a lot of people in my generation don't, and I understand why, calling them "lazy" is the last thing I would ever do. Like, no one can afford anything today, it's ridiculous! But apparently, it's our fault that we want to live in a world that isn't so anti-human.
It does give me hope to see a lot of people in my generation and younger realizing these things. As corny as it sounds, I think we (gen z and younger, but even millenials) have a kind of strength/resilience/courage with regards to this stuff that older generations don't seem to understand or possibly even have, having come of age in this unique time in history, and I think we should give ourselves more credit for that.
I think all these ideas of when you’re supposed to stop trying new things(age wise) will always negatively affect everyone and I’m glad to see that people are not allowing this mentality to plague their minds
I know it's not really the point when you were explaining the adult life that has no hobbies or interests outside of drinking and s3x (since you were talking about you experience w cancer too), but i am a person who don't like s3x and i don't think i ever will.
And i don't like alcohol that much either so i like to fill up my days and my life with other hobbies like writing, reading, coloring, just watching kids show and like you said, i get SO mocked by it and so infantilized by it, especially when they know that i don't like "adult activities" that i honestly DO feel very scary to grow up and look older bc i will not have the excuse anymore that im still so young and people are going to let it slide, it only gonna get worse
god i was scared to go to a karaoke w/ my friends bc in my head, even tho I'm still in my 20s, im getting to old to go to a f.cking karaoke
In my experience it gets better, not worse. I'm a bit sex-repulsed myself and when i was a kid, schoolmates harassed me about it (they were assuming i didn't know where babies came from), when i was studying in uni, people were telling me i was so "innocent", but now that i'm in my mid 30, no one assumes it's childishness or innocence anymore. Maybe it also helps that i can talk confidently about these things. People think they're judging ignorance. When you're older, i think the danger about PC activities becomes more about having mom energy rather than a kid energy. Don't let anyone treat you like their mom either.
it's actually part of the point! I should talk about that at some point too, bc there's a huge problem with people (especially those that didn't experience much in terms of struggles in life that are actually difficult, like poverty, disability, etc) thinking that them becoming sexually active makes them very experienced. They are so convinced of that, that they will literally talk down to ppl who are ace or "vanilla" in their opinion, even if those people have experienced a lot more life or carry a lot more responsibilities than them. I mostly noticed it about surface level people with very little self awareness, but it's quite widespread, which I find troubling.
@@Desimere i (am sex-averse and) felt exactly like that in my life! In school my classmates were always "omg, she is so innocent, how cute" and like, i knew, but it was very difficult for me to say that i knew and only didn't wanna participate in anything like that without getting laughed at
Really glad to know that it gets better with time!! 🙏💜
@@LisaFevral i never thought about that at this angle, but it makes so much sense!
Idk if can be interpreted like projection, since they never had that much struggle in life (thankfully, no one should have to deal with this) and they think they didn't went through anything that makes them an adult? Idk
I am someone who struggles with BPD and depression, so my life is like living in a fog, time is not linear and I struggle with memory. I feel like only yesterday I was a teenager and now I see a 22yr woman. It has nothing to do with how young I actually look bc im constantly told i look very young for my age but its just idea that the time slipps from my fingers because of my mental health struggles that make me so ANGRY
Thanks so much for talking about how money is such a big factor!! I feel like a lot of people know it when they tslk about this stuff but they dont mention it directly - i also feel like the beauty industry is soo sooo sooo bad and is not helping
This was a really good “girlie talk”. I teared up a bit. Sending love 🩵
its insane because ive been thinking ab u talking ab this topic for a few days now..
so we all are in love with that pinterest eye makeup, right?
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The whole video has good bones but I think the very last part is so much needed in the world and smarter if you wanna be a winner, as Mothers said wisely : the more fast-paced the world goes, the less time people have to reflect on themselves and the less time to debunk their fears too and find deeper meaning in their life. You make it look easy but fears and projections require less effort and uncomfort in the moment ; fearlessly appreciating life with open eyes may feel like sour grapes at first but when you flash forward you'll realise the world is your oyster and you're not longer a mess in distress.
Much love,
This was eye openning
Your makeup and necklace matching is *chef's kiss* Re the topic, it's not even just that people project their insecurities onto others, they started inventing all these new niche insecurities and expect others to feel insecure about them too, it's so exhausting!
Tysm for talking about this. Tiktok doesn’t help but there’s so much more to it! It’s often cognitive dissonance imo. You can’t attain the things people expect you to (or you expect yourself to) as an adult, but you look like an adult so you experience dissonance when you see yourself. But you can’t minimise the dissonance by changing your circumstances, so you try to change the aspects of your appearance that trigger that feeling of dissonance.
Skincare is also a very accessible way to have a sense of control when your life is out of control, and the “self-care” marketing takes advantage of that. Ever since I became chronically ill I’ve become way more focused on skincare! Maybe I can’t drag myself to the kitchen to get food or stand up long enough to shower but I can still feel like I’m taking care of myself if I have a lip balm in my pocket. Is it delusional? Yes. But it’s awful to spend every waking moment fully aware of how little support I have and how completely incapable I am of meeting my most basic needs
Off topic but you look absolutely Gorgeous especially in that thumbnail omg I gagged
thank you🥰🥰
I wanna add that tiktok's algorithm also probably pushes this type of content more than the videos exploring the topic. We know it's been favouring conventionnally pretty white people over everyone else, I wouldn't put it past that as well.
Tiktok isn't the reason, absolutely. But it (and the internet in general, moreso than media, I do feel the internet has accelerated every bad trend) definitively pushes the problem even more
evenhaving sex is slooked down upon once ur 30 bc suddenly ur "old". i am also absolutely ALLERGIC to that word since ppl keep calling themselves old. EVERYONE. no matter the age
omg yeah I can't listen to people calling themselves and everyone else old their ENTIRE lives
haven't been on yt for a while, and the time I come back there's a new video!! tysm!
look at your makeup matching the jewelry! You look gorgeous!
Thank you hehe🥰🤍
this was a very insightful video and i feel the same, most people dont realize that our time really is limited. like i get that its human nature and people cant imagine death happening to them but it especially puts it into perspective when you lose a family member (especially an immediate family member) although i wish it didnt have to come to that. im so happy you best cancer and you're still here, i wish you alllllll the best ❤
absolutely love this video
I really need to see a video from Lisa on BG3, I bet her Tav looks amazing
a BG3 video from lisa would be so slay omg
I just love that even when I deviate completely from content that could include Astarion he still manages to find me and I LOVE it. keep it up!
sorry to those who are trying to avoid him, he's one of my faves for reaction clips/audios ahaha
How is this topic (or even this video) not talked more??? Like go off Queen, nothing to disagree with, the current situation in the world is just unbearable...
The thing i realized almost immediately that the pandemic took from me was all the work i had done towards becoming more social, especially in regards to my still non existent love life. I was incredibly anxious as a teen but i had been working towards being more outgoing n was making real progress n then the pandemic happens n as soon as things went back in person i realized, not only had i gotten a bit rusty at socializing, suddenly everyone else was also struggling to socialize, which is bad for me since i usually rely on others to kick off interactions. When it comes to my love life, i was 19 at the start of the pandemic n, bc of my anxiety n not having the biggest of dating pools as an overtly queer teen, i had no love life at all in high school, but i had started dipping my toes into it in college, nothing ever going beyond the talking stage but i was gaining confidence n becoming more comfortable flirting. Suddenly theres nearly 2yrs of not being able to continue that roll i had started n im not only back at square one but i also have a lot of other shit on my plate that means i just dont have to mental energy to start the process again, so now im 23 n feeling like i have as much experience as a high schooler n less of a social life than i did when i actually was in high school 🙃
Yeah I actually agree that socializing skills really took a hit bc of the pandemic. I’ve always been somewhat of a lm extrovert but my social battery is so low now that I can barely deal
When I started college I obviously had some ideas what I wanted to do career wise but now, especially due to AI, some of them are starting to become increasingly non-viable. And that's just in five years. Not to mention the insane inflation....
Yeah it’s quite disappointing and really not promising
i loved this! i was a lil uninterested to watch this at first cause i thought it may be a lil surface level and j talk abt the tiktok trend but i should trust u bc ure so smart lol. i have definitely noticed that in myself, feeling a little robbed bc of covid and j life not going how i hoped :/
YAYYY A NEW VIDEO
I don't want to get "old" because the perceived adult life is colorless and without joy. Like you said, we are ridiculed for liking cute things or things geared towards kids. I want to keep wearing cute, creative outfits in pretty colours and enjoying video games and anime. Not living some soulless life wearing nothing but minimalist clothing (nothing wrong with that style if it's what you like!) and doing whatever is deemed acceptable by society. You speaking about those who've had cancer not really giving a shit anymore was so eye opening, we need to realize without going through something to that level of trauma that we don't have a lot of time and we should find joy in everything we do. Not shape ourselves into what we think will get us approval. Thank you for this video, it was very insightful 💜
i loved this video lisa, u r absolutely right !! keep making videos like this
Loved this video 👏 I think your points are very well made and totally agree with you
the eye makeup today is slayinggg
Probably the most interesting contribution to this conversation! Great video 😵
18:45 - Lisa spilling FACTS 🍀
God I wish to see more people like Lisa and her mindset in my life and media , PERIODT. Good thoughts ,girl!❤
unrelated but your makeup is gorgeous!
Thank youuu🤍🥰
As a millenial woman i wouldn't say gen z people look older than me just more mature and put together i think.and they sometimes feel more adult than me in a way that they (at keast people i met) know what they want, have goals and know their steps. And i feel childish with how lost i am.
I don’t even like asking how “old” are you to others. It’s a trap thinking that staying young forever is a good thing. You’re way less wise and more naive when you’re younger. Aging is truly a blessing, I’m excited to get older because it means I’m LIVING. And living is learning. It’s experience and wisdom. Remember.. not everyone gets to age
Love these chit chat videos! 💜😊 you always bring up such interesting topics and have so much input to add to them
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the make up ATEEE (ok I'm going to listen fr now)
I love the photo of Bayron in the background! Ps, your videos are always so well done and interesting, love them !!
Glad you like them!🥰🤍🤍
I love you so much Lisa.
I think there are a lot of girls that feel like me , girls that don't have a safe space where they can express and talk and just be themselves and people like you and your comunity is trly a blessing for us, when i watch the videos and read the comments I feel like if i had a lot of older brilliant mature and sweet sisters and lots of good friends. Thank you so much 💌
I got super lucky with this audience🤍
love love love your insights! The way you put things into perspective, speaking to the root cause of these issues rather than the symptoms of them, is so encouraging as someone who finds it hard at times to separate societal cause and effect since I'm still young (college age) and processing how I'm getting older and learning to be independent and well-adjusted.
Aging for me is a painful thing to sometimes confront, not because I'm getting older but because my loved ones are. I'm reminded because of aging that my parents and grandparents will eventually become different and then die -- which I know is a beautiful thing in itself because I get to witness them living long and fulfilled lives. I guess a fear of aging for me is the fear of change and a greed for youth and health and time. I've been trying to confront this fear for a while and it might not ever go away, I try to be uplifted to experience a future beyond what I know now and to find love for my future, older, self.
I wonder how that perspective will change with time and age, too!
I agree, the hardest thing is just living knowing that mortality is a thing that sometimes takes ppl around you away
I really want to know how you did your makeup in this it's soooo gorgeous.
I actually look forward to my 30's my favorite quote from 16 going on 30 is 30 flirty and thriving.
I have a couple people I follow online who are in their 30s and 40s with the same "childish" interests as me.
It is not deliberate but it does remind me every now and then that being an adult is not about becoming serious and joyless or whatever.
My outlook on my personal aging is.. Quite bleak. I have some (chronic) pains that will likely only get worse and more debilitating but my only hope is that it won't get so bad I won't at all be able to do these things I love.
Finally a good fucking perspective 🍽
hey there lisa 👋🏾 this is unrelated but i was wondering if you could bring the styling videos back. a request i have is to redesign strawberry shortcake.
u r right, as usual
Great video