One thing I forgot to mention guys... DOWNRANK your renew to rank 1! This is all you need to bounce your PoM! You can also down-rank other spells if needed as a healer, but at this point with all our fiend, and disperse etc you should be pretty alright! :)
Which other spells are good to down-rank in your opinion? And could you explain how you use renew rank 1 to "bounce" prayer of mending? Thanks a lot for the guides!
I take serendipity over strength of soul. Nice for speeding up greater heal. Of course, I don’t use PW:S that often because it isn’t efficient mana wise.
Renew is 3 wasted talent points. Ditch PI and Force of Will (also wasted points) for the beginning of new content. PI is great but keeping people up when under geared in new content is paramount. 5 divine furry and 3 inspiration is a much better option for healing under geared at the beginning of a new phase. Use serendipity instead of Strength of soul because you want weakened soul up on the tank constantly. Use rank one Power word shield on the tank to keep weakened soul debuff. Use renewed hope rune on your waist. If you have multiple disc or holy priest alternate keeping weakened soul up. The whole point of this is so multiple priests will benefit from the crit of renewed hope to constantly proc the new head rune Devine Aegis. 40 mana per rank one divine shield cast so both priests have imp crit to proc shields. That’s how we run sunken temple without needing an innervate while also stabilizing high incoming damage spikes.
@@xxxccc4753You as well as any priest using Renewed Hope rune (Waist) will get 10% chance to crit with healing spells on target with weakened soul. When you crit it procs the Devine Aegis rune (Head) which creates a shield on the target for 30% of the amount healed. Also procs Surge of light rune (Wrist) for instant heal or damage. You are using 40 mana for a divine shield to proc shields that would cost about 400 to 1000 mana worth of heals from multiple priests. While also gaining an instant heal or smite.
@@xxxccc4753I assume because of Renewed Hope, but this is mostly only relevant if you're tank healing. If you're running with a hpally or something you'd want to do it differently and focus more on pom/rank 1 renew, etc
Which spells (if any) do you downrank? I've played a lot of vanilla/classic and in that expansion downranking is mandatory - is this the case in SoD 3 aswell?
I think 5/5 Divine fury is better than 3/3 Imp Renew. especially considering the new tier set is tied into smite. and heal costs 305. your flash heal is 315. I think what you meant to say was Greater Heal is your efficient heal
Why the hell would you use Heal? for 15 mana more you cast a flash heal that's 1½ second cast time and in its base healing is only 70 less then heal that takes 3 seconds to cast :O
idk if you've learned since this but it's because of the way spell/healing power works in classic. In most cases the % of healing power added to a heal is based on the base cast time of the spell, so using a low rank slow heal will be a lot more mana efficient if you've got a decent amount of +healiing on your gear
I think you mean Greater Heal, not Heal. And also as someone else pointed out, renew rank 1 to bounce Prayer of Mending is a huge part of your gameplay
@@fizwocket2854 turns out you're right, at least for regular classic when the healing style was use heal rank 4 constantly for mana efficiency once you're over 300 healing power, but SoD is different because of PoM and Penance and even CoH. Pennance and PoM provide high healing output and are very efficient, so you use your time between casts putting up rank 1 renews (sometimes max on tanks if you need to stabilize them). I still think there could be place for heal to top off people who arent in danger but PoM, CoH or in raids, the other healer with wildgrowth etc might just do that for you. And I also think heal 4 spam is more suited for Holy spec vs Disc which gets mana cost reduction on instant spells vs increased healing from deep holy. And if people already arent in danger just use renew, it's more efficient than heal 4, even more so with empowered renew
@@loftus4453 unlikely pom would bounce to them if they're full, it's a very rare situation where everyone else is full and someone else desperately needs a pom bounce to the point where you'd consider forcing it.
I've never healed anything in my life I'm going to give it a try with your guide. I'm pretty sure I can probably speak for everyone , thank you for your guides!!!
You forgot the most important part of disc healing atm. Its using renew rank 1. You only need it to pingpong PoM.. never use max rank unless you need it to smooth out tank damage.
Your logic on Empowered Renew vs Renewed Hope is flawed. If you are reducing Weakened Soul that is a good thing you just shield again before you go into your cast cycle. Having 10% bonus crit on Penance/flash is significant and increases your surge of light procs and your Divine Aegis procs which leads to more flash heals which leads to more frequent power word shield... all 4 runes have wild synergy based on renewed hope
One thing I forgot to mention guys... DOWNRANK your renew to rank 1! This is all you need to bounce your PoM! You can also down-rank other spells if needed as a healer, but at this point with all our fiend, and disperse etc you should be pretty alright! :)
Which other spells are good to down-rank in your opinion? And could you explain how you use renew rank 1 to "bounce" prayer of mending? Thanks a lot for the guides!
@@xxxccc4753 it bounces if the player is healed or take damage, it's all inte the description of the spell.
Renew is the second most efficient healing spell a priest has
I take serendipity over strength of soul. Nice for speeding up greater heal. Of course, I don’t use PW:S that often because it isn’t efficient mana wise.
Renew is 3 wasted talent points. Ditch PI and Force of Will (also wasted points) for the beginning of new content. PI is great but keeping people up when under geared in new content is paramount. 5 divine furry and 3 inspiration is a much better option for healing under geared at the beginning of a new phase. Use serendipity instead of Strength of soul because you want weakened soul up on the tank constantly. Use rank one Power word shield on the tank to keep weakened soul debuff. Use renewed hope rune on your waist. If you have multiple disc or holy priest alternate keeping weakened soul up. The whole point of this is so multiple priests will benefit from the crit of renewed hope to constantly proc the new head rune Devine Aegis. 40 mana per rank one divine shield cast so both priests have imp crit to proc shields. That’s how we run sunken temple without needing an innervate while also stabilizing high incoming damage spikes.
someone that actually played the class and knows what they are doing, nice!
Interesting. Can you explain why keeping weakened soul up is of importance?
@@xxxccc4753You as well as any priest using Renewed Hope rune (Waist) will get 10% chance to crit with healing spells on target with weakened soul. When you crit it procs the Devine Aegis rune (Head) which creates a shield on the target for 30% of the amount healed. Also procs Surge of light rune (Wrist) for instant heal or damage. You are using 40 mana for a divine shield to proc shields that would cost about 400 to 1000 mana worth of heals from multiple priests. While also gaining an instant heal or smite.
@@xxxccc4753I assume because of Renewed Hope, but this is mostly only relevant if you're tank healing. If you're running with a hpally or something you'd want to do it differently and focus more on pom/rank 1 renew, etc
Isn't Renewed Hope bugged as of right now though?
Don't listen to him about Pain Suppression, always take Dispersion.
Yeah he clearly doesn't play priest lol
5 points into wand damage had me dead, i wonder if there is something that could help priests out when they get slept in WC every 2 seconds... hmm...
No shit. I would never heal without dispersion. Mana is definitely still an issue in phase 3, especially on long heavy damage fights.
Which spells (if any) do you downrank? I've played a lot of vanilla/classic and in that expansion downranking is mandatory - is this the case in SoD 3 aswell?
no you dont downrank in sod
I think 5/5 Divine fury is better than 3/3 Imp Renew. especially considering the new tier set is tied into smite. and heal costs 305. your flash heal is 315. I think what you meant to say was Greater Heal is your efficient heal
Why the hell would you use Heal? for 15 mana more you cast a flash heal that's 1½ second cast time and in its base healing is only 70 less then heal that takes 3 seconds to cast :O
idk if you've learned since this but it's because of the way spell/healing power works in classic. In most cases the % of healing power added to a heal is based on the base cast time of the spell, so using a low rank slow heal will be a lot more mana efficient if you've got a decent amount of +healiing on your gear
I think you mean Greater Heal, not Heal. And also as someone else pointed out, renew rank 1 to bounce Prayer of Mending is a huge part of your gameplay
I've always read heal rank 4 is more mana efficient over greater heal once you get some healing power
@@fizwocket2854 maybe I'll have to check it, I probably use greater heal like once per raid if at all. Its always flash
@@fizwocket2854 turns out you're right, at least for regular classic when the healing style was use heal rank 4 constantly for mana efficiency once you're over 300 healing power, but SoD is different because of PoM and Penance and even CoH. Pennance and PoM provide high healing output and are very efficient, so you use your time between casts putting up rank 1 renews (sometimes max on tanks if you need to stabilize them). I still think there could be place for heal to top off people who arent in danger but PoM, CoH or in raids, the other healer with wildgrowth etc might just do that for you. And I also think heal 4 spam is more suited for Holy spec vs Disc which gets mana cost reduction on instant spells vs increased healing from deep holy. And if people already arent in danger just use renew, it's more efficient than heal 4, even more so with empowered renew
Lesser heal rank one will always bounce PoM. Renew will not force a bounce if the target is at full health.
@@loftus4453 unlikely pom would bounce to them if they're full, it's a very rare situation where everyone else is full and someone else desperately needs a pom bounce to the point where you'd consider forcing it.
im our "main" healer as a priest and im only using circle. its way better to carry your grp but only works well if you get 1-2 innervates
I've never healed anything in my life I'm going to give it a try with your guide. I'm pretty sure I can probably speak for everyone , thank you for your guides!!!
You forgot the most important part of disc healing atm. Its using renew rank 1. You only need it to pingpong PoM.. never use max rank unless you need it to smooth out tank damage.
Empowered renew rune, PoM and rank 1 renew is the bread and butter of priest healing
Yep what I'm doing ... like we have 2 crit runes and we don't even crit 😂😂
i never need to ping pong pom. its usually doing it by its own so i always use max rank renew
haah this guy doesnt know wtf hes talking about videos
Your logic on Empowered Renew vs Renewed Hope is flawed. If you are reducing Weakened Soul that is a good thing you just shield again before you go into your cast cycle. Having 10% bonus crit on Penance/flash is significant and increases your surge of light procs and your Divine Aegis procs which leads to more flash heals which leads to more frequent power word shield... all 4 runes have wild synergy based on renewed hope
In your opinion, what’s stronger at the moment? Disc or holy?
Holy imo
Dual spec disc for longer fights and holy for shorter
I love your videos. Thx
PW:S has a 0.1 SP multiplyer, spell healing as #1 prio is troll
I think this guy doesn’t play priest.
please touch on consumables next time!
how is renew inefficient?
Healing done vs mana cost if the calculation.
@@JaviHeals not sure if this sod only, but in classic it is one of the most efficient healing spells mana wise
circle of healing is way better than penence
thats a terrible talent spec for a healer
all of the top guides recommend what he put into the disc side, the holy side is flexible, so...youre wrong
your guides are extremely mid