At 8:07 you mention all stacks increase the dmg of Supercooled Smash, which I couldn't find any proof of. I checked multiple logs and the ability just hits for around 1k with no regard to stacks (saw it hit 915 unmitigated with 11 raid stacks, and over 1100 unmitigated with 0 stacks)
as healing the raid yesterday - same thing. he does truck damage with no debuffs up also truck damage with 25+ up we just fapped and ignored the debuffs, except for tank in p4 that was kiting (since with 20%+ less movement, tank gets alot of fire-stacks, so dispell or blessing needed)
Menagerie looks like the Wizard of Oz event mixed with Romeo and Juliette event from Kara. Makes me wonder what they're gonna do to Kara in TBC Sod when they get there.
the fire stacks on mekgineer thermaplug phase 1 last for 30 seconds, not 15. You will probably need an offtank to taunt swap so that your MT can reset the stacks, as they will not fall off during the kiting. Also, the frost stacks don't increase raid damage. If one person reaches 11 stacks, they will get frozen, and if he does his supercooled smash with someone frozen, it wipes the raid. Free action potion will prevent stacks from accumulating, and they can be dispelled.
Electrocutioner 6k, just group the whole raid and have debuff move out, with 1 ranged hunter by the pillar next to elevator, since it targets furthest away u can just los it the whole fight and never even get hit once
So that's why all my Stranglekelp sells so quickly in SoD. I thought people would want it for PvP but not this much, now I know why. In TBC my Shammy chugged free action potions like they were softmints, was the only way to pvp without getting destroyed by any class with stuns.
Can we confirm that the supercooled smash abillity on P2 mekgineer actually does more damage the more stacks? I had a wipefest and it seemed to do the least damage the later in the fight and we were not dispelling stacks. Anyone has any insight on this? EDIT: I analyzed logs and I see no spikes in its damage at all, apart from partial resists due to my frost resistance totems. Even tho stacks did increase raid wide.
The difficulty is actually somewhat nice, but the raid is too damn long. 2-3 hours every 3 days is ridiculous. They need to eliminate trash and make it a 60-90 minute raid.
Very simpel boss!! Can blizzard increase more bombs and more HP on boss!! Would be fun there was spider boss here to!! with that lightings! you need run around more.
Some of your content is good... some, not quite so. There are several things you missed and some misinformation as well. First, you can leave the raid (literally) when snatched up. You can also use a movement skill to get back on the platform if you get knocked off. The sheep cannot be kited. It picks a raid member at random and moves towards him. You can taunt it but after a couple seconds it keeps moving towards a random member. There is a overheat buff/debuff (forgot the name) where all bosses take extra damage but deal more damage and this is what causes most wipes. There was very little research done here. Seems like you ran it once and just talk about some of the stuff you 'noticed'. This video should definitely be remade with proper raid information and strategy.
From what I understand, I thought the overheat buff made them take extra damage but also each (close to the dragon) doesn't AoE fire damage so you want to seperate the dragon that phase?
Video was good enough for me to get enough information to join a pug and complete the raid. I think it's a solid video. My only complaint is "Mechagear Thermaplugg" at 6:34 when his name is "Mekgineer" like "Engineer".
can anyone confirm if this raid needs two tanks? all the speed runs are 1 tank and this guide didn't mention any tank swapping or needing to place mobs apart while fighting?
This raid was lazily put together. Each boss was just in the same octagon layout with lazy mechanics. I had higher hopes for SoD and the content it would have this has been underwhelming.
is there a specific tone to the way you talk, that sounds mildly bored and uninterested that is good for the algorithm? Why does everyone sound the same? with the same emphasis on the same syllables... its uncanny
While I agree with your comment, I was trying to find a nicer way to say it as this guy tries really hard and puts out very well made/edited guides. You weren't overly mean or anything, just don't want to discredit him, because agreed his cadence needs work, but such good content regardless
at animal boss you don't mention anything about reflect and not the protection zone. at thermaplugg you say nothing about getting a debuff afterclickng the button shitter
@@bigscrap84 well my guild didn’t kill kelris week 1 after wiping for a couple hours. Cleared gnomer with 1 wipe on menagerie and 5 wipes on last boss. Seems easier…
@@brandoncondon7050 well my guild and many groups couldn’t clear BFD first week, kelris was hard AF. And I went with a pug and we full cleared gnomer quickly.
BIG Mechanic I forgot for Menagerie: Don't dps the Dragon during Overheat and the Sheep has a reflect dmg!
Why? They take 25% more damage when they are Overheat no?
why
Thank you for a great summar, will forget everthing and just press buttons til dead
😂
I love how in classic wow not getting hit off a platform is "alot of self responsibility".
I love it too
its just what a dood said xD this raid is over pretentious every1 asking full gear and bullshit .... u just have to pay atention lol
We actually wiped to the gnome at the end cause we had 2 ppl alive at 10% hp lmfao
what happened?!?! did he respawn?
@@Sarthetv sadly yes, it was soul crushing but we got him next pull
does the raid still want like an hour to be finished? i remember it was very long to do it lol
i stopped playing when the phase 2 started, now i want to come back but i know it will be very very very hard
At 8:07 you mention all stacks increase the dmg of Supercooled Smash, which I couldn't find any proof of. I checked multiple logs and the ability just hits for around 1k with no regard to stacks (saw it hit 915 unmitigated with 11 raid stacks, and over 1100 unmitigated with 0 stacks)
as healing the raid yesterday - same thing.
he does truck damage with no debuffs up
also truck damage with 25+ up
we just fapped and ignored the debuffs, except for tank in p4 that was kiting (since with 20%+ less movement, tank gets alot of fire-stacks, so dispell or blessing needed)
One thing I want to add is, that the buttons on last 2 bosses have a percentage value for the exchange.
-30% total health for +20% total mana.
Menagerie looks like the Wizard of Oz event mixed with Romeo and Juliette event from Kara.
Makes me wonder what they're gonna do to Kara in TBC Sod when they get there.
the fire stacks on mekgineer thermaplug phase 1 last for 30 seconds, not 15. You will probably need an offtank to taunt swap so that your MT can reset the stacks, as they will not fall off during the kiting.
Also, the frost stacks don't increase raid damage. If one person reaches 11 stacks, they will get frozen, and if he does his supercooled smash with someone frozen, it wipes the raid. Free action potion will prevent stacks from accumulating, and they can be dispelled.
I had so much fun with guild last night, the raid is harder than BFD it requires some coordination. SoD team did a great job.
im pausing at crowdpummler for 2 questions, do his gears throw pets off the platform and how can youu predict who hes targeting for the claw attack?
Ravager's Bladestorm makes you immune to knockback of pummeler
that's hilarious
The hardest part of gnomer is getting accepted into a group
Electrocutioner 6k, just group the whole raid and have debuff move out, with 1 ranged hunter by the pillar next to elevator, since it targets furthest away u can just los it the whole fight and never even get hit once
love this strat!
Sounds funny. Do you need to LoS after he started casting right? You got a VoD maybe?
@@Persianbooy1991 Sorry i didnt think to record before we were mid fight 🤣 yes los it after je starts casting
This was hotfixed yesterday btw, it can no longer be LoS'ed
thx Mate for the Guide
So that's why all my Stranglekelp sells so quickly in SoD. I thought people would want it for PvP but not this much, now I know why. In TBC my Shammy chugged free action potions like they were softmints, was the only way to pvp without getting destroyed by any class with stuns.
Great guide. Thanks for posting!
"Make sure to take him against the wall" was said way too casually at 3:58.
Looking fun which names of consumes we need for the raid and how many?
Great guide Thanx❤
Great video!
This is interesting, stacks at last boss lasted 30secs yday in my raid
O shiet, Paweł DSM, akurat Ciebie, to się nie spodziewałem w komentarzach pod contentem WoWa :D Jednak stara miłość nie rdzewieje.
yeh same here, the 15 seconds is a lie
@@majdan07 nikt nie jest doskonały, poza Garroshem :P
@@drugastronamedalu couldn't agree more :)
Can we confirm that the supercooled smash abillity on P2 mekgineer actually does more damage the more stacks? I had a wipefest and it seemed to do the least damage the later in the fight and we were not dispelling stacks. Anyone has any insight on this?
EDIT: I analyzed logs and I see no spikes in its damage at all, apart from partial resists due to my frost resistance totems. Even tho stacks did increase raid wide.
great job thanks
I don't like blizzard anymore but these boss mechanic is so lovely.
they are doing auch a good job
Thanks Sarthe
Very nice Guide thx for this do you make a new BM Hunter Guide for p2 ? or have you ab good Guide for P2 Greetz Chris
Forgot to mention that Chompers petrifies. OffTank needs dispelling a lot
yet to do my first run, but i already miss bfd, things were so nice and easy
A different way of saying too easy and boring
relaxing id say, did my first gnomer yesterday tho, 6/6, wasnt too bad
@@alienstales
gnomer is a little bit harder@@alienstales
bfd was tutorial raid, lvl 25 its bound to get harder from that point. After a few clears Gnomer will also be super easy. Also its getting nerfed.
Im kinda fearful of tanking gnomer it looks a bit chaotic
I like the compo of the raid kekw
there's 4 differnt POV and 3 diferent raids used here to show everything clearly, but they were all either world's first (so had to be mages) or top 5
thanks good movie :)
This guy should smoke a joint before explaining,omg the stresslvl
you get the stacking debuff no matter what on thermaplugg. just tanked him. he does the debuff no matter the fire.
Great video
You dont have to defeat Chomper anymore.
He Deaggros cuz he Stuns the Offtank, Dispel the Stun.
Jesus.
Do you pay for the new recipes with gold or a Grim-Encrused?
A bit late but they cost like 15/25 gold
The difficulty is actually somewhat nice, but the raid is too damn long. 2-3 hours every 3 days is ridiculous. They need to eliminate trash and make it a 60-90 minute raid.
While I agree, once people get gear it will prob be an hour raid like bfd
@@cinders9532bfd an hour? it was like 25 minutes if you didn’t stop to eat.
@@KiazaKadaj bfd ewas too short, GR taking an hour should be a good middleground
@@halvorhf4280 100% agree. At least Gnomer has some more mechanics to pay attention to as well, makes the time spent in raid more fun.
You're not planning on ever raiding naxx then. 4 hours is normal for a casual guild with that raid.
Very simpel boss!! Can blizzard increase more bombs and more HP on boss!! Would be fun there was spider boss here to!! with that lightings! you need run around more.
No
My guild just wiped like 9 times
what camera zoom out mod is that? Cant find it. def is a mod.
idk his but I use MaxCamera
To my fellow tanks, fuck the last two bosses they hurted
jesus christ the electrocutioner explanation made my head spin..... fucking ridiculous, this is lvl 40 ffs LOL
Some of your content is good... some, not quite so. There are several things you missed and some misinformation as well. First, you can leave the raid (literally) when snatched up. You can also use a movement skill to get back on the platform if you get knocked off. The sheep cannot be kited. It picks a raid member at random and moves towards him. You can taunt it but after a couple seconds it keeps moving towards a random member. There is a overheat buff/debuff (forgot the name) where all bosses take extra damage but deal more damage and this is what causes most wipes. There was very little research done here. Seems like you ran it once and just talk about some of the stuff you 'noticed'. This video should definitely be remade with proper raid information and strategy.
wdym sheep cannot be kited? if it targets a random member, then that member kites it? thats what kiting is
From what I understand, I thought the overheat buff made them take extra damage but also each (close to the dragon) doesn't AoE fire damage so you want to seperate the dragon that phase?
@@halvorhf4280 that is not how kiting works. Go see your text on the internet somewhere else /shrug
Video was good enough for me to get enough information to join a pug and complete the raid. I think it's a solid video. My only complaint is "Mechagear Thermaplugg" at 6:34 when his name is "Mekgineer" like "Engineer".
Sarthe in a nutshell. Looks like lil bro copied half of Sardaco’s video too.
your voice uses the same tonal pattern on every single sentence you say and it drives me crazy.
this guide OWNS!!! thanks for the help Sarthe
Was there any tank damage? Did the tanks have to actually wear tank gear and use tanky abilities or just zugzug dps spec and gear?
Just did it last night-- tank damage was actually pretty rough especially on the menagerie and thermaplugg fights.
@@naruto0950 Were your tanks wearing shields and such or dps warriors/ ret palas in your case? :)
@@vj1991fin Paladin tank with a shield and warlock tank with full mitigation runes.
It's pronounced "Mek-gin-eer", like engineer.
Missed some important points on this one... should really edit the menagerie part and republish.
WTF am I supposed to do at Electrocutioner? It is so fucking confusing
the debuff is 30 seconds
can anyone confirm if this raid needs two tanks? all the speed runs are 1 tank and this guide didn't mention any tank swapping or needing to place mobs apart while fighting?
If you arent an OP speed running guild then you def need more than one tank.
It actually does mention an OT at 7:40 in order to mitigate the stacking debuff.
I don’t think I’ll raid this phase. Always hated gnomer lol
Lol go back to Shadowlands
Tbh the loot isn't too massive an upgrade compared to bfd
Mechagear thermaplug?? 😂
This raid was lazily put together. Each boss was just in the same octagon layout with lazy mechanics. I had higher hopes for SoD and the content it would have this has been underwhelming.
why u yelling bro ? :)))
And people want logs of previous kills when forming groups for this excuse of a raid with barely any mechanics. What a joke
So, raid is shorter than the actual dungeon?
I'm assuming this is a boss guide and there's trash to fight along the way in the actual raid.
you are correct - our guild took about 2-3 hours with a no wipes until last two bosses@@wmcarter6096
Ya, only takes 10 min to do just like the UA-cam video shows
Pretty sure most people spend 3-4 hours in there
ya i did the entire raid in 30 seconds bro big brain, you're really intelligent
is there a specific tone to the way you talk, that sounds mildly bored and uninterested that is good for the algorithm? Why does everyone sound the same? with the same emphasis on the same syllables... its uncanny
Makes it a lot easier to transcribe/convert to other languages and recycle.
Can you stop raising the pitch of your voice and lowering it every sentence? Its way over done and annoying to listen to.
While I agree with your comment, I was trying to find a nicer way to say it as this guy tries really hard and puts out very well made/edited guides. You weren't overly mean or anything, just don't want to discredit him, because agreed his cadence needs work, but such good content regardless
the info isnt even the right video lol some other song of how its made
The most dogshit raid and looting system i have ever seen in a game done it onces fucking never again.
too hard for classic. sod sucks
A mage only epic staff, this sucks.
*healer and mage
healers and tanks should get the good gear, we get the boring job after all.
@@Giliver Yeah but priest and druid healer have no use for Arcane damage.
Starsurge btw@@yueguanshan1681
womp womp
Starsurge says hello@@yueguanshan1681
at animal boss you don't mention anything about reflect and not the protection zone. at thermaplugg you say nothing about getting a debuff afterclickng the button
shitter
say more how to deal with them :(
Sheeeesh to late alrdy full cleared. Easier than BFD
BFD*
Idk if it's easier then bfd
@@bigscrap84 well my guild didn’t kill kelris week 1 after wiping for a couple hours. Cleared gnomer with 1 wipe on menagerie and 5 wipes on last boss. Seems easier…
BFD was ridiculously easy so I can't see this being easier. Our guild wiped once on kelris all phase and it was week 1
@@brandoncondon7050 well my guild and many groups couldn’t clear BFD first week, kelris was hard AF.
And I went with a pug and we full cleared gnomer quickly.
Not your best video.
A gnomer raid sounds awful 😊
Was quite fun actually!