Why is the Godhead FORBIDDEN KNOWLEDGE In Modern JUDAISM?
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- I've met many Jews who had no idea that a Godhead was part of their theology once. I have since discovered, as an academic, that what we're going to talk about today was sort of looked at as forbidden knowledge. There were certain passages in the Old Testament that you shouldn't be reading. And you shouldn't be studying without a rabbi with you to steer you from one direction to the other. To give you the standard interpretation or denial of what the text was actually saying. Check it out!
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Man according to scripture can mean the following :
Man ; that is of a Angel
Man also becomeing flesh
Man ; male and female called Adam
Earthy man
Heavenly man
Lonely man
That is why the word Human, and snake is not used in scripture
Miss you Mike
The Godhead wasn't fulfilled in the Old Testament and you are not interpreting in the Spirit of truth. You have the spirit of error. We are not supposed to treat teaching the Word as a career option and you are not a "doctor" of the Word of God because it cannot be taught by men or university. Hence the reason most of you are in serious error.
The gospel also isn't being a merchant. All of you are selling merchandise along with your "word". What did Jesus say about selling in the temple? If you have made this platform the alleged temple of the Word of God that is another way you are in error.
Can none of you have another way to profit other than authoring books of falsehoods? I know that you have studied the Book of Enoch. What does it say about men writing words that deceive and how they will be viewed by God?
Absurd. The God head was fulfilled at creation in Genesis 1. There we see the Father, Son, and Spirit.@@SeerSeekingTruth
I work with Rabbis in my line of work. One in particular I recently read Isaiah 53 to him and he said it sounded like Jesus. I hope to have further discussions with him on this. The Daniel text I did not put that together. Thank you! This will be most helpful. His name is Levi. Please pray for him
Oh, Jesus had children? I didn't know that? And he was killed with the rich and buried with the wicked? I thought it was the other way. Wait a second...... Isaiah 53 says the servant wasn't violent. What about when Jesus cleared the temple violently? Its more like you are full of shit. Repent now! G-d will accept you.
@@walleras and I both know that Isaiah 50, 51, 52, _53_ , and 54 are talking, primarily about the Nation/People/State/Tribes of Israel.
A secondary application _could_ be made to Messiah, but that is not what the plain reading of these FOUR chapters returns.
@@stay_at_home_astronaut Even if, Jesus did not have children, was violent, wasnt butied with the wicked or died with the rich.
The Arizal pointed out Jesus’s unmarked grave on a road leaving Tzefat towards the north.
@@walleras In order to have an actual discussion, there should be mutual respect, and I would like to explain why I am convinced Yeshua is the promised Jewish Messiah.
Let me preface this by saying that I love Israel and the Jewish people. I am truly grateful that I have been allowed to peek into the life of the Jewish people, and I see a group of people with a rich history that effects the entire world. Archaeology is further proving this. Not only that, God is bringing the Jews back to Israel from across the world, and that is also prophetic (Jeremiah 32:37-40).
I really would like to understand why you do not believe Yeshua is the Jewish Messiah, or what do you believe about the Messiah? Further, as a Jewish person, as I would assume you are, how do you practice your religion? How often do you read the scriptures?
Isaiah 53 is an interesting chapter, is it not? Let's read some of the verses closely for comparison. 5-But he was pained because of our transgressions, crushed because of our iniquities; the chastisement of our welfare was upon him, and with his wound we were healed. 8-From imprisonment and from judgment he is taken, and his generation who shall tell? For he was cut off from the land of the living;because of the transgression of my people, a plague befell them.
Why would Israel, since you refer to Israel in this case, suffer for “our iniquities” and the “transgression of my people?” This is clearly an indication that someone else is suffering. Also, why would Israel be cut off from the land of the living? Israel was never cut off, but simply scattered. Refer to my vs on Jeremiah above.
I truly hope you earnestly seek guidance on this. Yeshua was not Italian, nor Greek, but Jewish. My Jewish brothers who believe in him as Messiah are still Jewish. Their identity is not removed, and I would not wish them to remove it. Soon, Israel will mourn for the one whom they pierced. Zechariah 12:10-And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplication; and they shall look unto Me because they have thrust him through; and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his first-born.
My own experience in life led me to Israel and the scriptures of the Old Testament. The New Testament simply is a fulfillment of what the Old Testament foretold. I may not have a Jewish background, but I have a love for the Jewish people because of this. I consider the Rabbi I spoke with a friend, and appreciate his willingness to sit down and talk.
The Fonz, would you please take a look at the context of the what the text says of Yeshua cleansing the temple? Here is what the text says. Mt 21:12-13-And Yeshua entered the temple and drove out all who sold and bought in the temple, and he overturned the tables of the money-changers and the seats of those who sold pigeons. He said to them, “It is written, My house shall be called a house of prayer, but you made it a den of robbers.” The OT references are this. IS 56:7-these I will bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in the house of prayer; their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be accepted on my altar; for my house shall be called a house of prayer. Jer 7:11-Has this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? For context I shared all of this to clarify the conditions of what was going on. Temple worship was being reduced to a money-making scheme, when it should have been used as a joyful house of prayer for the people.
I also am not aware of your evidence to support Yeshua having children, as there is no indication of this in the scriptures. Please elaborate.
I took the time to share all of this because I do not hate you. I care for you, and simply desire to share my own experience into this.
Shalom.
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@THE BHSC Hey bro! All good! I've been reading Dr. Heiser's books in the last year or so, that's how I heard of him! Dr. B is great, how come you haven't come over there?
In a way Dr Heiser helped me change perspective or in a way reborn, or further sanctified, as you wish. Fascination again.
I too have had my beliefs completely transformed by God and this has made everything I questioned fall into the right place. God bless
Keep going, I've been learning from Him for about seven years and he gets more and more interesting...
Saw your health announcement yesterday, and I'm so upset... so, I'm asking the Lord to encourage you. Thank you for your tireless labors.
Our religion needed to be revived by a doctor, so God sent Dr. Heiser. Praise God!
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Our messiah Yeshua was always there. When you read through the TaNaK you can see.he visited Abraham. He spoke to joshua and was in the fire in Babylon.and was told of by the prophets.he is one with Yah. When he showed his true form to kepha in the vision on the mountain they seen what he truly was.Yahuah the father Yeshua the son and the ruach hokodesh are the elohim of yisrael
I've told these things to Jewish folks and they still turned away even without a rabbi there to confuse them.
@@jukeboxhero1649 Because they are afraid of offending their God or afraid to be wrong. But at least you planted the seed. Never know, in ten years one of them might pick up the Good Book. God bless
You guys are polytheists who worship gods. You even refer to them as mulitple gods by saying "are the elohim" which literally means are the gods. Its absurd how you all dont see this problem. No jew or muslim(or many other christian groups)will ever worship gods because its heresy.
@@MBEG89 There’s one God and they all know eachothers thinking without communication, three different roles. It’s pretty simple if you learn before you say something like your father satan would want. Elohim has a lot more meanings than one and refers to residence as in any disembodied member of the spirit world.
Yahweh the father is a who with a divine nature at the corner of the triangle, the Holy Spirit is a who with a divine nature at the other corner and Jesus is a who with a human and divine nature at the point of the triangle. The triangle together forms 3 who’s that are 1 what, and that one what is God. Daniel 7: “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like the son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence”. Who’s is this son of man approaching God? It’s the visible yahweh Jesus. Funny how that’s Jewish theology and they declared it heresy in the 1st century because all there fathers before them said it was the 2nd power in heaven and accepted it, the other yahweh, which is why they used Elohim in Old Testament days. Jews after Jesus they knew it challenged their belief that Jesus wasn’t God also they Got rid of it because they can’t know Jesus due to their heart and lack of search for the truth. Everyman must be enabled BY God to come to the correct Belief system. All men aren’t good unfortunately, but those who search for the truth without bias always find Jesus as God. And find love as a result.Those who are called to Jesus from all religions everyday. Islam is full of pride made hundreds and hundreds of years after Christianity and is ultimately fake and set up by satan and it’s obvious it doesn’t match with the rest of the revelations of Gos. Heck even Muhammad said he was possessed by a demon at one point. The man was crazy. Just look into it. God bless hope all find the true Jesus.
@@LC-jq7vn alot of religions use the one source many incarnations excuse, youre not as unique as you believe. From my pov youre no different than a hindu worshipping multiple gods.
Also in Psalms it is written
" the LORD said to my LORD..."
What source has it as Adonai said to Adonai and not Adonai said to Adoni?
@@youngknowledgeseeker
The actual text says Yahweh said to adonai.
@@lilchristuten7568 please source because I don't think that's accurate?
@@youngknowledgeseeker Why did Jesus quote it then?
@@mosog8829 I’m actually not 100% certain as it’s not explained in the gospels. Perhaps just to highlight the exalted supremacy of the Messiah. He’s not just David’s son but Gods as well and so what does that mean? He is our Lord as well even Lord over his own exalted ancestor. A son or descendant being exalted and Lord over his elders is a cultural anomaly for them. Good question though
A few days ago, I was in a nearly 4 hour debate with some friends who are Apostolic (Christians who don't believe in the Trinity) about rather the Trinity was real. Ever since then, I've seen so many references to the Trinity in the scriptures. I am now more convinced than ever in the Trinity.
Jesus told the Jews in John 8:58 "before abraham was born, I am." They picked up stones to stone him, even they knew what He meant.
Then when Jesus was baptized. Father shouting from heaven, holy spirit like a dove and the Word of God on earth. 3 parts
See the opinion of Jesus
It's called confirmation bias and it's pretty common in that situation actually
Doesn't it become evident that the fact that these videos are put out to try and boost the Trinity theory, makes it is a false doctrine.
Do we ever see videos being put out to convince people that Gravity is a fact?
@@2corinthians5-19 : At John 8:58, the account is about Jesus' EXISTENCE before Abraham. Nothing about his name.
They picked up stones to throw at Jesus because they thought he was a lunatic.
"You are not yet 50 years old and yet you have seen Abraham" points to that being the case.
Google the Greek 'ego eimi which Jesus used and is translated as 'I am' in the KJV bible.
Many used it, including Judas.
The proper and grammatically correct translation is 'Before Abraham existed, I existed.'
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Reference to the Godhead comes immediately in the first three verses of Scripture! "In the beginning God (bereshit elohim) CREATED heaven and earth" (Gen 1:1). Right there you have God the Father (Creator). "Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the SPIRIT of God was hovering over the water" (Gen 1:2). There you have the Holy Spirit of God performing His creative activity among creation. "And God SAID, 'Let there be light,' and there was light" (Gen 1:3). God spoke His WORD. The Word was the Logos, the Logos the pre-incarnate Christ, the Son. In the NT of course Jesus Christ is synonymous with the Word. So then, in the earliest verses of Scripture appear Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
@@nickvanatta2184 God IS Spirit. God THE Spirit moved upon the face of the waters, There were not two Spirits/God's UNTIL - God said "Let there be Light. THEN there were Two, God THE SPIRIT, and the pre-incarnate Only begotten Son of God, in the FORM of God -Light/Spirit, Who is the Logos/Word of God. God IS Spirit/Light, He - the Father, begat His Son, Spirit of Spirit, Light of Light, as a father begets a son - of his essence, Whom He sent to be the Savior of mankind.
@@mikebeck2484 I think there’s some confusion about this. The Trinitarian Godhead has always existed as such. One God. Three persons. They are co-eternal and consubstantial. Yes God IS Spirit. But it’s not like there was one...and then two with the “begetting” of the Son, or logos. The Son has been co-eternal with the Father. “Begotten” is used only to describe when God made Himself flesh. He’s always been eternally the same, since God is unchangeable, immutable. I was, I am, and always will be.
Seriously? Can you all tell me why Jesus would have resurrected himself in his body and why he doesn't discard it into nothing but spirit? There are three separate beings God the Father has a body, Jesus Christ now has a body, (Christ is our creator, the worlds creator and our Lord and Savior) working under the direction of the Father, and the Holy Ghost (is a spirit does not have a body yet, in order to enter all those he see's fit of his presence and help) the are the Godhead all one in unity and purpose. It's easy to study and come to the conclusion. People trying to make some nonsense theories of God being a substance in and around and nothing is, well nothingness basically and it is just not what I'm willing to believe in our all powerful glorified God or Lord Jesus Christ. We are all God's spirit children whom He sent here to earth to gain our bodies and learn from them so we can learn to become more like him. We hopefully will return to God unless we choose to follow Satan who rebelled against God's plan for giving us our agency to choose to follow him or not.
The other Heavenly King in the Daniel 7 passage I believe is Adam. For Adam was the first man on the earth to begin the days of this world, that's why hes called the Ancient Of Days. Because Adam lived till 900 or so years old before he had died so he didn't die straight away when he ate of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil but he did die 930 years later (Genesis 5:5), and that's why hes called the Ancient of days. But hes not God the Eternal Father or Elohim our Heavenly Father... The guy you saw sitting up on the throne in Ezekiel 1 was Our Heavenly Father. The Most High God. And Jesus Christ is his Son whom he had sent down to earth..
So if that heavenly king is Adam who was the oldest person on the earth, then its obvious that
Adam had made reconcilation with God after his transgression in the Garden and God had
forgiven him and let him return back again into his presence through repentance otherwise he would not be sitting as an exalted man on a throne up in heaven with glory and power and flames in his eyes. So if this is the end result of the fall to bring man again back into the glory and presence
of God to become like of the Eloheim to dwell with him in glory in heaven then the Fall must've
been a part of God's plan for this end..
So that means Just as our Article of Faith states that 'Men will be held accountable for their own sins, and not for Adam's Transgression' Because God has forgiven him.
So to find out the truth, we just compare the two verses together.
4. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die.
5. For God doth know that in the day that ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods knowing good and evil.
After eating of the fruit, God said this to Adam to confirm the truth the devil told Eve: 'Behold the man has become as one of US to know good and evil.' (Genesis 3:22)
Why does God have the forbidden knowledge of good and evil? It wasn't just Adam who had
that knowledge. God The Father also had the same knowledge. .Just as Jesus Christ himself had to choose obedience to overcome opposites or temptations as Jesus confessed also how he became like God his Father in Revelations Chapter 2-3 when talking to all the seven churches. He had to learn to overcome opposites.....
God is not alone, he belongs to a kingdom of God.
The Clues are Given also in Revelations Chapter 4 and Chapter 5
In Chapter 4 you have the 24 heavenly Kings also all seated up around God the Father and
the Lamb up in heaven wearing the crowns of eternal life, note the angels who were standing around the thrones didn't wear the crowns, but only the heavenly kings wore the crowns, so these were once saints that lived on the earth who had overcome and entered into their exaltation sitting as gods ruling with God the Father and they now worship God the Father and the Lamb so there's a whole group of heavenly kings that rule with God the Father and the Lamb.
You also have the clue Jesus gives about inheriting a throne from the Father : 'He who overcomes I will grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I am set also with my father in his throne.'
So the promise to the saints is that they will inherit a throne from God if they overcome.
In Chapter 5 God the Eternal Father is seen sitting up on his throne while the Lamb of God is approaching up to the Father's throne to open up the sealed book out of the Father's hand so
there are two figures here. As only the Lamb of God (Jesus) was the only one who
could open the seals of this Book that the Father had in his hand who sat upon
the throne.
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The Father's WORD became Flesh and saved All mankind... By His own Hand on the Cross... By His Blood 🩸 we are All Saved
So The WORD came out from the Father.
The WORD was with God.
The WORD was God.
The WORD took Flesh and walked amongst us...
Then... The WORD Returned to Where it originated from, with the Father in The Heavenly realm ♥️
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD." (Deuteronomy 6:4) And the Jew Jesus confirmed the ancient Shema when his fellow Jews came to probe him to see if he had the same One God as they. (Mark 12:29) YHVH, The Creator is one. Not two, not three. And Jesus Messiah said so clearly: "And this is eternal life, that they know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent." (John 17:3) Surely Jesus Messiah knows who his God is ? No ?
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort." (2 Corinthians 1:3)
Surely God does not have a God. That is blasphemy.
Say this a little louder
You are right, it is blasphemy, and it is idolatry to worship anyone else as G'd. G'd is not fractured or schizophrenic , He is whole, He is one. Good proof texts from the nt.
One in number or in Unity? The Two Shall become one flesh? Me and my father are one? Is that a number or unity? Yet you can clearly see the scriptures he is referencing but you refuse to accept them.
Learn what the translation of one is please lol
@@maurdib "I have given them the glory that You gave me, that they may be one as we are one, I in them and You in me, that they may become perfectly one." (John 17:22-23) So, because the believers are made one with God as Jesus was made one with Him, we are God ? Being one with God means that we are Gods ?
Your lol is very misplaced as you are ignorant and not standing in truth.
@@bosse641 It's really not brother as you can clearly see who the Son Of Man is in the scriptures, and you can clearly read John 1 correct. Remind me what John 1 states again?
Babylonian Talmud (Sanhedrin 98b): "Messiah ...what is his name? The Rabbis say,'The leprous one'; those of the house of the Rabbi (Jehuda Hanassi, the author of the Mishna, 135-200) say: 'Cholaja' (The sickly), for it says, 'Surely he has borne our sicknesses' etc. (Isa.53,4)."
Babylonian Talmud, (Sanhedrin 98), p.2 "Rabbi Yochanan said, The Messiah-what is his name?... And our Rabbis said. "the pale one"... is his name, as it is written "Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows-yet we considered him stricken by G-d, smitten by him and afflicted."
Midrash Ruth Rabbah: 2:14 "Another explanation (of Ruth ii.14): -- He is speaking of king Messiah; `Come hither,' draw near to the throne; and eat of the bread,' that is, the bread of the kingdom; `and dip thy morsel in the vinegar,' this refers to his chastisements, as it is said, `But he was wounded for our transgressions, bruised for our iniquities.'"
Rabbi Mosheh Kohen Ibn Crispin: This rabbi described those who interpret Isaiah 53 as referring to Israel as those: "having forsaken the knowledge of our Teachers, and inclined after the `stubbornness of their own hearts,' and of their own opinion, I am pleased to interpret it, in accordance with the teaching of our Rabbis, of the King Messiah....This prophecy was delivered by Isaiah at the divine command for the purpose of making known to us something about the nature of the future Messiah, who is to come and deliver Israel, and his life from the day when he arrives at discretion until his advent as a redeemer, in order that if anyone should arise claiming to be himself the Messiah, we may reflect, and look to see whether we can observe in him any resemblance to the traits described here; if there is any such resemblance, then we may believe that he is the Messiah our righteousness; but if not, we cannot do so." (From his commentary on Isaiah, quoted in The Fifty-third Chapter of Isaiah According to the Jewish Interpreters, Ktav Publishing House, 1969, Volume 2, pages 99-114.)
Rabbi Moses Maimonides: (1135-1204) "What is the manner of Messiah's advent....there shall rise up one of whom none have known before, and signs and wonders which they shall see performed by him will be the proofs of his true origin; for the Almighty, where he declares to us his mind upon this matter, says, `Behold a man whose name is the Branch, and he shall branch forth out of his place' (Zech. 6:12). And Isaiah speaks similarly of the time when he shall appear, without father or mother or family being known, He came up as a sucker before him, and as a root out of dry earth, etc....in the words of Isaiah, when describing the manner in which kings will hearken to him, At him kings will shut their mouth; for that which had not been told them have they seen, and that which they had not heard they have perceived." (From the Letter to the South (Yemen), quoted in The Fifty-third Chapter of Isaiah According to the Jewish Interpreters, Ktav Publishing House, 1969, Volume 2, pages 374-5)
Also from the Rambam Maimonides:
“Whoever does not believe in him (Messiah), or does not await his coming, denies not only the other prophets but also the Torah and Moses, our teacher, for the Torah attests to his coming.” Source: Hilchos Melachim from the Mishneh Torah of the Rambam, 11:1.
Rabbi Moses, 'The Preacher'(11. Century) wrote in his commentary on Genesis (page 660):
"From the beginning God has made a covenant with the Messiah and told Him,'My righteous Messiah, those who are entrusted to you, their sins will bring you into a heavy yoke'..And He answered, 'I gladly accept all these agonies in order that not one of Israel should be lost.' Immediately, the Messiah accepted all agonies with love, as it is written: 'He was oppressed and he was afflicted'."
Targum Jonathan ( 4th Century ) The Aramaic translation of Isaiah 53, ascribed to Rabbi Jonathan ben Uzziel, a disciple of Hillel, begins with the simple and worthy words:
Behold my servant Messiah shall prosper; he shall be high, and increase, and be exceeding strong: as the house of Israel looked to him through many days, because their countenance was darkened among the peoples, and their complexion beyond the sons of men. (Targum Jonathan on Isaiah 53 )
Zohar: Rabbi Simeon Ben Jochai (2nd Century), "There is in the garden of Eden a palace called : 'The palace of the sons of sickness, this palace the Messiah enters, and summons every sickness, every pain, and every chastisement of Israel: they all come and rest upon Him. And were it not that He had thus lightened them off Israel, and taken them upon Himself, there had been no man able to bear Israel's chastisement for the transgression of the law; this is that which is written, 'Surely our sicknesses he has carried' Isa.53,4).- As they tell Him (the Messiah) of the misery of Israel in their captivity, and of those wicked ones among them who are not attentive to know their Lord, He lifts up His voice and weeps for their wickedness; and so it is written, 'He was wounded for our transgressions' (Isa.53,5), Zohar part II, page 212a and III, page 218a, Amsterdam Ed.):
There are other supporting comments in Jewish literature to show that this Isaiah 53 passage has been traditionally thought of as referring to the Messiah and not to the Nation of Israel as a whole.
In the chapter of Isaiah preceding the Isaiah 53 passage God's "servant" is spoken of in a clear Messianic reference. Since there were no chapter breaks in the original document many scholars believe that this part of Isaiah 52 clearly belongs with Isaiah 53.
"Behold, My servant shall be wise, he shall be exalted and lofty, and shall be very high," (Isaiah 52:13). His wisdom shall exceed even that of King Solomon.(1)
Let the Truth about Isaiah 53 be known to all who seek Him
As time goes by, I am learning more and more just how translating any religious work incorporates the translators own feelings. I'll leave it as that.
That is true. But there are organizations who have made it their sole purpose to make a "literal" (as literal as can be done over time and language) translation of the original text we have. Idk about other religions but as far as Christianity goes, my wife and I read from English translations of The Scriptures. Not "the bible. The literal translation has some pretty significant key word differences that can change the verse message. We do have plenty of bibles in all the various translations but we just pull those out when we have an issue interpreting the message because of the sentence structures of it being a "literal translation"
It’s good to look up words in the original for that purpose. I noticed sometimes in Hebrew it will be one word they translate as whole sentence, inserting all kinds of words.
Honestly this could be said of any literature.
@@bobbyrayvictory6905 if it's word for word, it would actually be more confusing since that's not how a proper translation is suppose to be done between languages, it becomes more incoherent.
The real question is: Is God sovereign enough to see that His message gets through, and do You accept/believe that He is?
Thanks
It would be nice to get a chronological order to your sermons/ talks..
I feel like I'm missing out on things.
I have been incessantly searching for answers for about a year now and I feel in my gut, I have found a huge piece of the puzzle that I have been missing.
The Gospel is the utmost importance, but there had to be more. In church you aren't taught ANYTHING really. I needed new angles to explore; more avenues to research.
I was so happy to have found your vidoes that I just bought your last book!
Your teachings make sense to me.
Thank you!
Repent now! The gosepls are lies designed to trick you. They tell you that G-d cannot forgive without blood! Please repent now!
@Emz 3103 Prove it, prove an idol is in the Torah.
@@walleras you are thinking of the old Testament
@@karlhanson1229 One revelation, at sinai
Be cool Fonzi.
Prayers for you Dr Heiser. Love your work
I would say the trinitarian understanding is incorrect. The New Testament displays the 2 powers in heaven doctrine but as Jesus acting as God by bearing God's name. Other examples we see this in is the Book of Enoch and rabbinic sources on Metatron. I wish scholars would explain how the doctrine of 2 powers in heaven is not the doctrine of the trinity.
Love me some Heiser! Thanks Doc.
Well, yes....it's the "Father" and the "Son" ...Mikey, what don't you understand ?
And the "Mother" is the "Holy Spirit" or "Sophia" (Wisdom) that makes it all go.
The true "Holy Trinity" is right in front of every person's face, every minute of every day....
it's the "Father", "Mother" and "Child" (Son).....the "Family"....sound "familiar " ???
The prophecies are given to show that "TRUTH" ( Christ ) will prevail.....and those
that are His, with Him .
So that they together , in "marriage" can then "be fruitful and multiply" to "save the world".
All thanks and praise be to Jesus, Amen !
What could be considered a primitive trinitarianism was present in intertestamental Jewish religious literature. The rabbis were not opposed to the idea of a Godhead, in principle. The primitive trinitarianism of the rabbis obviously wasn't as robust and extensive as it later became via the ecumenical councils in the post-Apostolic era, but it definitely was there!
Rabbi S Wise said: The return from Babylon and the introduction of the Babylonian Talmud mark the end of Hebrewism and the beginning of Judaism.
Wow, I need to look that up!
Lies lies lies.
Nothing is forbidden about studying the Bible in Judaism. Stop spreading falsehood.
Why does it say "God said let us create man"...why didn't he say "God said let me create man"...we see that God has persons in him...
Very useful information, I feel more comfortable about sharing the gospel to Jewish people now.
What do Rabbis know about God? Nothing.
The first power is the God the father and the other power is Jesus Christ
Facts and the third we shouldn’t even speak of unless in holy reverence. Because any sin against the spirit of God can not be forgiven.
Holy spirit ✨
And?
@@RockerfellerRothchild1776 you fill the other one third
@@RockerfellerRothchild1776 and what? You have your own Dogma. What should this matter to you?
There seems to be many Jewish business teachings that dehumanize people in way that almost seems like an anti Jesus business book
As always very enlightening...thank you
and God bless your family
Guys, HERE is the ORIGINAL Semitic Text. Oh how this world has been DECEIVED
YaH The Heavenly FATHER was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
@@Praise___YaH so you are saying there is no son of God or Jesus. No begotten son? Is that what you are saying?
@@tissosweet....8638
That is EXACTLY what I’m saying. Here, I’ll PROVE that
Isaiah 45:10 WOE to the one who says to a father, 'What have you begotten?' or to a mother, 'What have you brought to birth?'
1. YaH The Heavenly Father was Who they Crucified
2. YaH arrived to be Crucified via the Tent of Meeting
From the Hebrew Book of Isaiah
Isaiah 43:11
I, I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me.
Isaiah 45:5
I am YaH, and there is none else.
@@Praise___YaH yes so Jesus is God.
@@infernal..
“jesus/he-ZEUS (breath of ZEUS)”, the “MORNING STAR” (Revelation 22:16) IS LUCIFER
Your jesus IS LUCIFER and he tells you he’s LUCIFER HIMSELF
You better get away from jesus and you better hurry
HERE is Man’s ONLY Savior
Isaiah 43:11
I, I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me.
Isaiah 45:5
I am YaH, and there is none else.
Is there a link to the longer version. Would be nice to see what you said next.
He shared it above just in case you didn’t see It. Blessings.
awakeningschooloftheology.com/
@@long2baproverbs31woman2 Thanks
HERE is the ORIGINAL Semitic Text.
YaH The Heavenly FATHER was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
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Speak for yourselves! The members of the God head are 1st mentioned in the creation of Adam! "Let US create man in OUR image"! But as John said, "for there are three who bare record in heaven. The Father, the Word, and the Spirit! And it is the Spirit that beareth truth because the Spirit is truth!"
you have no idea of semitic languages.....and even less Hebrew...
Just to make you think a little bit, Moses is called ELOHIM (Gods) in the bible and he is one person...
@@Logia1978 does the Hebrew *not* translate into, roughly, what OP stated above?
I know absolutely nothing about Hebrews and I’m sure OP doesn’t either, just honestly curious
@@Logia1978
Lol how can you acsuse someone of something yourself don't even understand.
Moises was never called God.
Read you Bible better.
Exosdus 7:1 New International Version
Then the LORD said to Moses, "See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron will be your prophet
Moises was made( like).
Of Corse it was used in plural because God himself was a plural name .
So as you know so much , please explain the genesis account of us
Also all used of plural forms for God , not only Elohim but also plural verbs .
Abraham said they cause me
Ishaiah says your makers are you husbands
Also the holy ones of Israel
And so much more.
Can you also provide any quote Moises being called God by any Israelite?
Moises was called like God only because God gave Moises the function of God.
It seems because the word Elohim here means plural also Moises had to be plural in him self ?
What a bad interpretation you have .
So one single person cannot do a job of a group of persons?
So Moises being one person cannot do a job of a triune God , if he is called to do ?
Lol how bad is this interpretation.
So on your view one must be identical to the other to do the same job.
But by the way( us) in Genesis express this idea of plurals in humanity it self .
Genesis 1:27
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.
Look created him
Singular
Him = them male and female
His Image = man= male and female
So man has plurality in himself
As God does .
@@Hissingcash123 Not really, in Genesis 1 it translates as the Elohim created man. In Genesis 2 when Adams spirit was breathed into him it was by the eternal Jehovah, not the Elohim.
I understand it as the flesh of man was created by Elohim, the spirit of man by GOD.
This is using strongs coordinance as my translation guide. There are many amazing, eye opening passages, once looked at in Hebrew. I would be happy to point anyone towards anything that helps them learn the mind of Christ and come closer to GOD, if needed.
@@Hissingcash123 I also should mention that the Elohim created all things material, all of Genesis 1 uses h430 Elohim when speaking of the creation of the universe.
Edit - typo
What about these two scriptures “Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; he [was] the priest of God Most High.” (Genesis 14:18 NKJV)
and
13 ¶ And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted his eyes and looked, and behold, a Man stood opposite him with His sword drawn in His hand. And Joshua went to Him and said to Him, “[Are] You for us or for our adversaries?” 14 So He said, “No, but [as] Commander of the army of the LORD I have now come.” And Joshua fell on his face to the earth and worshiped, and said to Him, “What does my Lord say to His servant?” 15 Then the Commander of the LORD’S army said to Joshua, “Take your sandal off your foot, for the place where you stand [is] holy.” And Joshua did so.” (Joshua 5:13-15 NKJV). Clearly one was a priest of God and he was Christ in the NT and the other commander of Gods army but was worshiped. Evidence of two beings.
Thanks Mike, really like these Miqlat Short Studies.
Guys, HERE is the ORIGINAL Semitic Text. YOU NEED TO READ THIS
YaH The Heavenly FATHER was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
@@Praise___YaH God said
אהיה
He did not say y h v h
When he answered to Moses.
@@shhiknopfler3912
No sir, Moshe was born in Egypt, raised by the Egyptian Pharaoh’s daughter and Egyptian Semitic was his Language, NOT Hebrew.
Moshe was dead, over 300 years, before the Hebrew Language existed.
What I shared IS the Original Semitic Text and EXACTLY what Moshe wrote. You either understand what I shared or you do not
Praise YaH
@@shhiknopfler3912
YaH did not say “YHVH”, what Moshe wrote are these 4 symbols:
1. Yad - arm with the HAND
2. He - man with his HANDS raised
3. Vav - HAND with the NAIL through it
4. He - man with his HANDS raised
“Behold the HAND That Beholds the NAIL”
THAT is what Moshe wrote
The ONLY “son” YaH EVER CREATED was Adamah (Adam), from the Dust of the Earth and Adamah CANNOT Save you
DO NOT defile YaH, Who is Holy, Innocent and Pure, with that of ANY HUMAN WOMAN, that is BLASPHEMY and the punishment is Death.
Praise YaH and NONE BUT YAH
@@Praise___YaH 13And Moses said to God, "Behold I come to the children of Israel, and I say to them, 'The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they say to me, 'What is His name?' what shall I say to them?" יגוַיֹּ֨אמֶר משֶׁ֜ה אֶל־הָֽאֱלֹהִ֗ים הִנֵּ֨ה אָֽנֹכִ֣י בָא֘ אֶל־בְּנֵ֣י יִשְׂרָאֵל֒ וְאָֽמַרְתִּ֣י לָהֶ֔ם אֱלֹהֵ֥י אֲבֽוֹתֵיכֶ֖ם שְׁלָחַ֣נִי אֲלֵיכֶ֑ם וְאָֽמְרוּ־לִ֣י מַה־שְּׁמ֔וֹ מָ֥ה אֹמַ֖ר אֲלֵהֶֽם:
14God said to Moses, "Ehyeh asher ehyeh (I will be what I will be)," and He said, "So shall you say to the children of Israel, 'Ehyeh (I will be) has sent me to you.'" ידוַיֹּ֤אמֶר אֱלֹהִים֙ אֶל־משֶׁ֔ה אֶֽהְיֶ֖ה אֲשֶׁ֣ר אֶֽהְיֶ֑ה וַיֹּ֗אמֶר כֹּ֤ה תֹאמַר֙ לִבְנֵ֣י יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל אֶֽהְיֶ֖ה שְׁלָחַ֥נִי אֲלֵיכֶֽם:
15And God said further to Moses, "So shall you say to the children of Israel, 'The Lord God of your forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.' This is My name forever, and this is how I should be mentioned in every generation. טווַיֹּ֩אמֶר֩ ע֨וֹד אֱלֹהִ֜ים אֶל־משֶׁ֗ה כֹּ֣ה תֹאמַר֘ אֶל־בְּנֵ֣י יִשְׂרָאֵל֒ יְהֹוָ֞ה אֱלֹהֵ֣י אֲבֹֽתֵיכֶ֗ם אֱלֹהֵ֨י אַבְרָהָ֜ם אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִצְחָ֛ק וֵֽאלֹהֵ֥י יַֽעֲקֹ֖ב שְׁלָחַ֣נִי אֲלֵיכֶ֑ם זֶה־שְּׁמִ֣י לְעֹלָ֔ם וְזֶ֥ה זִכְרִ֖י לְדֹ֥ר דֹּֽר:
What I said is clearly in the Torah.
What you say is clearly no where and complete rubbish.
Hebrew was invented 300 years later?
More rubbish.
Try getting a Rabbi to explain Isaiah 53 . They are scared to death to tell you the Real meaning of that bit of information.
Tell me about what it says please
@@dustybek6710 its a prophecy about Jesus. If you know the life of Jesus and read Isaiah 53, you can see the parallel.
@@dustybek6710 Isaiah 53
1 Who has believed our message
and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
and like a root out of dry ground.
He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
3 He was despised and rejected by mankind,
a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
Like one from whom people hide their faces
he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.
4 Surely he took up our pain
and bore our suffering,
yet we considered him punished by God,
stricken by him, and afflicted.
5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
and by his wounds we are healed.
6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
each of us has turned to our own way;
and the Lord has laid on him
the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed and afflicted,
yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.
8 By oppression and judgment he was taken away.
Yet who of his generation protested?
For he was cut off from the land of the living;
for the transgression of my people he was punished.
9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
and with the rich in his death,
though he had done no violence,
nor was any deceit in his mouth.
10 Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the Lord makes his life an offering for sin,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.
11 After he has suffered,
he will see the light of life and be satisfied;
by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,
and he will divide the spoils with the strong,
because he poured out his life unto death,
and was numbered with the transgressors.
For he bore the sin of many,
and made intercession for the transgressors.
There is also John 1:1, "in the beginning was the word, and the word was with God. The same was with God in the beginning. All things were made by him, and without him was not anything made, that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men. One of my favorites. But, I realize this is not Old Testament.
HERE is the ORIGINAL Semitic Text.
YaH The Heavenly FATHER was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
Actually John is describing the aleph tav which is a word in the first sentence in genesis and explaining how it fits in with God. The word is et. It is used with a verb, in the case of the first sentence that would be "created" (barah). "Beginning" is the word bereshit. Elohim is the first name we see for God the Father. SO the heavens and the earth are made through Him, Jesus, the alpha and omega which in Hebrew is aleph tav. "In the beginning created Elohim ET the heavens and ET the earth." There are a couple of videos on the internet that do it better justice but I hope that helps.
@@Praise___YaH Jesus said on the cross "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" No one is the Father's God.
@@BEERFEST07
The New Testament is the GREEK translation of the Hebrew Book of Isaiah and they changed YaH The Father with their GREEK god ZEUS, where the name “jesus/he-ZEUS (breath of ZEUS)” and the “virgin birth” LIES came from.
Let’s look at the Hebrew Book of Isaiah, let’s see what it says
Isaiah 9:6
כִּי־יֶלֶד יֻלַּד־לָנוּ בֵּן נִתַּן־לָנוּ וַתְּהִי הַמִּשְׂרָה עַל־שִׁכְמוֹ וַיִּקְרָא שְׁמוֹ פֶּלֶא יוֹעֵץ אֵל גִּבּוֹר אֲבִיעַד שַׂר־שָׁלוֹם
Which reads:
For unto us a Lad is arrived, the government shall be upon his shoulder: and His Name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty One, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
“a Lad is arrived” - NOT “a child born”
“Everlasting Father” - YaH is The FATHER NOT this jesus
Isaiah 7:14
לָכֵן יִתֵּן אֲדֹנָי הוּא, לָכֶם--אוֹת: הִנֵּה הָעַלְמָה, הָרָה וְיֹלֶדֶת בֵּן, וְקָרָאת שְׁמוֹ, עִמָּנוּ אֵל
Which reads:
Therefore YaH Himself shall give you a sign: behold, the young maiden shall bring forth a Lad, and shall call his name ImmanuEl.
“a young maiden shall bring forth a Lad”
ImmanuEl translates “with us is GOD”
@@Praise___YaH You're ignoring what the Bible actually says by trying to discredit the New Testament as a poor translation of Isaiah, which it is not.
There is No Abrahamic Covenant outside of Jesus
Galatians 3:29 And if ye be Christ's then are ye Abraham's seed and heirs according to the Promise
There is No " Interfaith" world religion.. as taught by Papal Fakery Blasphemy either..
Ephesians 4-5 One Lord One Faith One Baptism
Cathy, Sure of ourselves, are we? To Hell with humility, eh?
Has anyone studied with him? What is the course like? I like what I am hearing
I truly appreciate Heisers loving and respectful approach to jews.
Baruch HaShem Adonai! Amen ✡🇮🇱✝
You are my FAVORITE teacher......if i had an apple :) God bless
You have at least 2 apples, your corneas, through which to see and which are referred by the dual plural in Hebrew. Elohim is a different plural, 3 or more, not just a pair.
By 2 minutes we see the first lie. There NEVER was a prohibition of learning Gen 19 or the other ones It is interesting he does not quote where he this prohibition is known from.
I have read his books and while he has a lot of good things, like his discussion of the heavenly host, he really loses it when he tries to prove Christian theology. A very good source on Jewish monotheism is the book by Hurtado: One God, One Lord.
Thank you Dr. Heiser - much appreciated .... RON (Las Vegas)
Guys, HERE is the ORIGINAL Semitic Text. Oh how this world has been DECEIVED
YaH The Heavenly FATHER was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
Hmm wonder who it could be?
🤔😲✝️👍
If you lean upon the RUAH HA KODESH of TRUTH, he will lead you not a man :)
Most Christians are not quite right on this subject. The Roman Catholic Church changed the Creed.
The RUAH ha KODESH, IS NOT A MASCULINE ENERGY. You keep omitting the MOST HIGH FEMININE FACE OF GOD out of her own CREATION, and WATCH HOW FAST YOU ARE PURGED in the EVICTION EVENTS OFF OF THIS EARTH, NEVER to return, that are already WELL UNDER WAY.
In Genesis at the tower of Babel Yahweh also conversationally refers to another.
also refers to "like us", I believe.
Yeah but people will explain that away by saying the us is referring to angels
1 Corinthians 14:33 says God is not the author of confusion yet He was jus that at Babel......can you reconcile this?
@@Mapdotnowhere
Yes. God didn’t cause confusion at the Tower of Babel.
He scattered the people and”confused the languages, but he didn’t cause confusion.
@Patrick Skywalker
Yeah that’s a lie.
Fascinating and faith building. Thank you!!
Mathew 23:13...“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to..
Well said! 👊🏽👍🏽🙏🏽 I’m assuming that you are speaking of MH… I’m sure his WOE is unbearable now… may YAHUWH have no mercy on him for all the souls he led astray with his philosophy and vain deceit which the gullible were foolishly led astray by… WOE unto him!
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That is The Father,Son and The Holy Spirit
That is not the case, Judaism doesnt recognise the Trinity, and there is substantial evidence - new Bibles going as far as to remove that passage from the Bible- that the part talking about the "father, the word and the holy Spirit" was inserted and was not present in the original caninical books
Trinity is a manmade doctrine derived from pagan gods. It is a lie perpetrated by Yahweh's enemies for their gain.
Yahweh is the Holy Spirit. Yahweh was made flesh. "The son" when it was time. Yahweh completed His name. Yahushua. Meaning He Yahweh will save His people from their sin. Yahushua has all power after His death because He was Yahweh from the beginning!
There never were 3 coeternal beings in a committee.
One Holy Spirit created all that is and lived as the image creature He chose to be as a man for 29 years to reveal Himself and His nature to His creation. The invisible revealed in the visible. Heaven to earth and back again. Eternal to mortal and back again. It's pretty simple!
@@SEIGNREUR7 so can you explain why it wasnt in the original bible?
THOUGHT+WORD+ACTION = THE FATHER+THE SON+THE HOLY SPIRIT.
@@fritosoldier9284 AND RIGHTEOUSNESS.
So God would contradict his own scriptures? This is ignorance at the highest level. God reveals himself throughout the Old and New Testaments as one Supreme Being. These passages can be explained from that foundation, not from a trinitarian one, such as Heiser is deceptively doing. Whoever reads this, please don't be gullible to such erroneous theology.
Heiser needs to explain that Segal used a different type of interpretation called "Merkabah" mysticism. Similar to Philo of Alexandria who used "Allegorical" interpretation to teach his "God and two Supreme and Primary Powers."
Yup. It’s the same question with different wording. “Three centers of rationale function” or “God in three places” or “God in different locations”….
God isn’t bound by location. And what’s crazy is the “Trinity” is in heaven and in flesh so there still isn’t separate locations.
@@andyayala5639
Thank you for your comment.
I can understand how some may have trouble believing in the Trinity if they've never read the Bible, but it only makes sense . I've been very blessed by the Lord for giving me this innate knowledge of this...it's like I was born with this knowledge and I'm just so thankful that I've never had a hard time with this, as so many have.. thank you MH
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No it really doesn't. It isn't found in Tanakh, he is reading into the text and saying dumb things. 1 Kings 8:60, G-d is alone.
Trinity is an apparent truth (what appears to be true). It's just like when we stand on earth, and look at the sun, we say 'the sun is rising from the east and is setting to the west.' To us, it appears that the sun is moving around the earth. From space, the reality is much different.
There are many visions of GOD, both in the O.T. and the N.T. The consistency of these visions testified to only ONE PERSON sitting upon the everlasting Throne. We have to choose what to believe, the testimonies of the prophets and apostles, or the things that appear to be true.
@@ngdavid3925 The trinity is a lie idolater. So that you can break the words of the prophet HOsea and declare a man, god. How could you do such a thing? I am shocked that G-d has not destroyed your petticult. He will. Oh He will, I urge repentence immiedietly
@@walleras
You sound out of depth in the truth. There is truth and there is error. You believe in your own imagination and bow down to it, that is idolatry. My GOD is not a destroyer, but HE is a FATHER, Who corrects HIS Children if they commit errors. Your self righteousness stinks to Heaven.
@@walleras
Yes, the MAN JESUS is declared to be GOD. Heb.1:8-13
Who called JESUS GOD??? The FATHER!!!
You have an issue with this, go and settle it with the FATHER.
It was the FATHER, Who commanded HIS Angels to worship the MAN, JESUS. Heb.1:6
You don't know the meaning of 'MAN'??? Read Gen.1:26
In Genesis there is a figure called God and there is a figure called the LORD. One is El one is YHWH
@A Sojourner please explain this line then...Then God said" Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness". If God was alone and there is only one creator, and God and YHWH are the same diety, who is he talking to?..... Anywhere the word lord appears, that is a translation of YHWH, yehweh or jahova, as in YEHshua, eliJAH the word God is a translation of EL.as in israEL, gabriEl, michaEL, uriEL..the ELohim (nephELim) are the children of the God El, in original canannite religion before israelites were monotheistic, El and YhWH were identified as two separate dieties..Furthermore. in Genesis..On the third day God (el) created the vegetation that grew on the earth, then three days later God (el) created man and woman in their image, at the same time, on the sixth day....then in the next chapter, the Lord God (yhwh) created adam from dust before any vegetation had even grown, so that had to be before the third day. Lord God (YHWH) then created eve from adams rib, this happened after vegetation began to grow, so that was after the third day...There are two separate accounts of two separate men and two separate women being created in two separate manners by two separate dieties at two separate moments in time....please explain that. In the ancient 1700 year old coptic translation of john 1:1 it states"In the beginning existed the word, and the word existed with God, and a God was the word" similarly put as "in the beginning was the word, and the word was with God and the word was a God".. If the Word is identified as Jesus, and Jesus is often called the Lord, and the lord(YhWH) was with God(el) in the beginning, we have proof of two Gods in the old testament. El is the father and YHwH is the son. This is how Jesus is able to be God in the flesh on earth, but also able to speak to God the father that is in heaven. No man may know God(el), the most high, it is only Jesus, the Lord (YHWH) who knows the father, for no one goes to the Father except through christ, our Lord who is YHWH. Thesselonians 1 Grace be unto you, and peace, from God (el) our Father, and the Lord (YhWH) Jesus Christ.
I've been looking for a laptop for schooling purposes then I see Dr Heiser has an hp. I think I've made my decision. Thank you for unknowingly re kindling the fire within to study the amazing Word of The Lord.
I have an hp laptop as well, but mine’s cheaper and battery is weak so it has to be plugged in to charger while using.
@@benedictalmarines3856 just buy a new battery... they do wear out, especially if you don't use the battery often.
That's what I have. I think I got it from Walmart for pretty cheap. Touch screen too.
Exo 15:3 (LXX APB+) The LORD breaking (G4937 crushes) by wars; the LORD is his name.
Will you PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do a video on Tovia Singer?
Thank you
Search for Dr. Michael Brown's series "Answering the Rabbis".
Sam Shamoun deals with many of Singer's talking points in his blog and in his UA-cam channel.
Sounds like the JW, they would prefer you study with them with their books filled with their questions.
Indeed! WISELY spoken!
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Please keep these coming. We are praying for your complete recovery.
What an incredible disservice to read the KJV, English translation bible as if it is original works.
You know, I've put a lot of thought, and have heard the arguments that you can't understand or fully reveal the message of the scriptures, unless you learn Hebrew! And my conclusion, being a limited man in knowledge, I find 1 major discrepancy with that belief! And that is that it suggests a limited god! As if man and/or the devil have out smarter God through translation! Granted, the last words of the complete books, revelation warns that who ever adds or takes from these words of prophecy, to him his name will be removed from the book of life, which in itself reveals that it would happen as God words are eternal and purposeful! In other words, he wouldn't waste his breath with that warning, unless it was going to happen! But I cannot believe, not accept that his message would be lost through translation! Yeshua told his disciples to go into ALL the world and preach the gospels! Which tells me that, regardless of man and the devils attempt to discredit the KJV Holy Bible, his message IS still therein! Other wise, the devil would win, and we know that's not the case! And for the record, I do believe that reading the scriptures in Hebrew sheds more light and understanding, than any other translated additions! Mostly because of the language itself! To conclude, Nobody will ever prevent the will of the Father! I trust in him! Yehovah's blessings and shalom!
@@darvad77frimml69 And yet we have 33,000 different Christian denominations in the world today, all descended from the Roman Catholic Church. And they often call each other sinners.
Things that make you say, "Hmmmmmm."
Here's my answer.
Be like Jesus, The Buddha or Lao Tzu. Not like Christians, Buddhists or Taoists.
Go to the head waters for the freshest drink.
@@danielpaulson8838 λέγει αὐτῷ Ἰησοῦς Ἐγώ εἰμι ἡ ὁδὸς καὶ ἡ ἀλήθεια καὶ ἡ ζωή· οὐδεὶς ἔρχεται πρὸς τὸν Πατέρα εἰ μὴ δι’ ἐμοῦ.
@@micahkimel4182 That has nothing to do with this topic. Why don't you speak English on this thread? Few read Greek but all know the New Testament.
Genesis is framed on the monomyth. Everything downstream is only as valid as Jason and the Argonauts. The way and the life is now.
Thank you Dr. Michael Heiser! Can we have the link of the complete talk?
This is part of the Unseen Realm 101 lecture series, from the Awakening School of Theology.
awakeningschooloftheology.com
There are also other lectures on the topic in youtube
@@DRMSH you are promoting false, anti-Semitic troupes. Please stop.
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@@stay_at_home_astronaut can you explain how Dr Heiser is doing what you are accusing him of?
@@stay_at_home_astronaut No... he's only giving facts. Stop being so sensitive. Not every statement is meant to hurt someone's feelings. It's his talk. If you don't like it or agree, don't listen.
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The Spirit is like water that can fill multiple vessels yet is still one, echad.
The first echad in scripture describes night and day as being echad, one day. The word for God in Hebrew is Elohim, a collective noun -- like a family -- hence, let US make man in OUR image.
The Aaronic high priest bore the name YHWH openly on his forehead and represented the invisible YHWH of Israel bearing their sins with the names of the 12 tribes on his body (Christ is the head, His bride is His body, high priest after the likeness of Melchizedek).
In the future temple, the high priest will openly bear the name in vain, and spiritually we see the true nature (Rev 17.5) being in defiance of the new and better covenant ratified in the blood of Yeshua.
Where did it say Jesus was a high priest?? Isnt he from the tribe of Judah???
@Roland de Rooy First off. Jesus was not of the the house of Levi, Only descendants of Aaron and Levi are High priests and Levitical priests. Double descendacy??? are you listening to yourself? A man can't have 2 lines that's not possible. Can Yehudah be from the line of the tribe of Asher? No. What does Alpha and Omega mean in Greek? look at the etymology.
@Roland de Rooy Incase you didnt know aleph and tav when brought tgt it gives you a feminine word "et" and "ta" masculine. So was Jesus a woman? Look at Gen 4:17 in Hebrew.... Cain's wife "et ishto/he knew is WIFE"
@Roland de Rooy Incase you did not know the Messiah was to be a direct descendant of King Solomon nottt Nathan. Father gives sons tribal affiliation not the Mother, nor is tribe passed through adoption. Cannot have 2 fathers bc a man cannot belong to 2 tribes....Yah made it this way
High priest after the likeness of Melchizedek. The temple ministry was patterned after the heavenly model.
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Fascinating material.
Surely divinity is always a mystery...?
Can our human finite minds truly comprehend the infinite supreme God.
We are so insignificant yet He minds us...
Thank you Dr.Heiser
No, it isn't always a mystery. And yes, 'a' human mind could truly comprehend the Infinite Supreme God. You are not insignificant - begin from there.
Guys, HERE is the ORIGINAL Semitic Text. YOU NEED TO READ THIS
YaH The Heavenly FATHER was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
@@interqward1 Knowledge is power. If you think you truly understand God, then you are at least His equal. Begin from there.
@@Praise___YaH Maybe... Long problematic way round to get to a simple point though: some people murdered someone who was innocent. But that someone somehow 'rose from the dead.' Clearly, there is a situation involving a physical material person who physically died and materially was even buried. This is not going to be 'Yah' then, is it? Moreover - 'YHVH...' Is this really a 'name?' Or a description albeit let's even grant it was given by the individual concerned, IE 'God.'
I don't really wish to know what God's servants call Him. I'd much prefer to know what His friends did or do.
@@interqward1
YaH, that is the Name Moshe gave Him, it comes from Yad He, the “Ya H” as YaH accepted that as His Name and declared, “this is My Name, this is My Name for all generations” (Exodus 3)
YaH Himself declared that HE would offer HIMSELF for the Sacrifice of sin, to forgive the beginning of sin “TREE of Life” sin of Adam, that for ALL who Love YaH, you shall inherit Life as YaH’s Name means “LIFE”
Praise YaH
The Trinity heresy exposed ...
HEBREWS 9:24
(English Revised Version)
""For Christ entered not into a holy place made with hands, like in pattern to the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear before the face of God for us:""
Isaiah 53 comes to mind as a real Tanakh page-skipper.
god WALKED with adam... of course god is a man... we are made in his image.... JESUS IS ONLY THE RIGHT HAND of god... THIS IS WHERE THE CONCEPT OF RIGHT HAND MAN COMES FROM..... such scriptural blindness...
Hear o Israel JEHOVAH is our God, JEHOVAH is the one and only?
^^literally, Jesus' favorite Bible verse.
@@stay_at_home_astronaut One in number or in Unity? The Two Shall become one flesh? Me and my father are one? Is that a number or unity? Yet you can clearly see the scriptures he is referencing but you refuse to accept them.
@@maurdib what am I 'refusing to accept'? The Oneness of G-d? For both me and Jesus, it is at the top of our theological hierarchy. This is literally the most important thing in Judaism.
@@stay_at_home_astronaut I think most people fail to Realize the different classes of being in the Bible, Angels , Human, Demon, God. Which class would you put Jesus in? Do you think he is the Father or Ancient of Days?
@@maurdib He _said_ he was the Son Of God: How about we go with that?
Do I think he is the Father: No
Do I think he is the Son: Yes
Do I think he is The Ancient Of Days: Probably. (I'll ask him when I see him)
The chosen people of God weren't ignorant of God. They knew God and knew that he was one God, not a trinity.
God is one God - three in one. And God said, Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness...”.
wow..that Daniel verse blew me away!
Godhead?
The term: Godhead is found only in the King James Bible and the New King James Version. It is not found in the Greek manuscripts. It would take two Greek words to make up the one word: “Godhead”. It is described as God being The Father, Son and Holy Spirit as One Being: a trinity. This is not possible while Jesus was on the earth.
Hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus, who ‘was made a little lower than the angels’, now crowned with glory and honor (after the ascension) because He suffered death, so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone.
Acts 10:38 And you know that God 'anointed' Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power. Then Jesus went around doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.
Jesus called Himself Son of Man because He was made a little lower than the elohim. We are elohim also but there is a Chain of Command.
1st Corinthians 11:3 I want you to know that the Head of the woman is man. The Head of the man is Christ and the Head of Christ is God. (His Father)
John 20:17 Jesus said, Do not cling to Me, I have not yet ascended to My Father. Go and tell My brothers that I will ascend to My Father and your Father, to My God and your God.
1st Corinthians 15:27 Berean Standard Bible
For “God has put everything under His feet.” Now when it says that everything has been put under Him, this clearly does not include the One who put everything under Him.
Acts 10:37 You yourselves know what has happened throughout Judea, beginning in Galilee with the baptism that John proclaimed: 38 how God ‘anointed’ Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how Jesus went around doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, because God was with Him.
Colossians 2:9 For in Christ all the fullness of “Deity” dwells in bodily form.
Berean Literal Bible
And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn. And they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. Matthew 24:30
This was too short, I am hungry for more ☺️
I think you should have studied the Hebrew language before you make this video. Upon all that you are reading a Version and Translation from the Hebrew scripture which obviously changes words man. But why stop at three there is also an Evil spirit from God and an Eternal spirit from the Exodus. Why stop at three. You are a scholar? You should know that the words for God in Hebrew was always used by Jews as a means of ONENESS, hence the Shema(core belief of Judaism). Rabbis have already refuted these claims. If God said there is NO GOD but ME, how does that show a Trinity? Y are you putting God in a pantheon just like the Greeco-Romans,Egyptians and Pre-Islamic pagans???
Heiser has a PhD in Hebrew Bible and Semitic Languages doofus. He knows Hebrew and reads the manuscripts. This presentation was for a non-Hebrew speaking audience. In his books, he cites Hebrew often.
@@Chomper750 Which timestamp did he read the Hebrew? (doofus?) dont get madd achi. Speak the way Jesus wants you to
@@barriebrrrp4258 You said he should have studied the Hebrew language. He did. If you'd have ever bothered to pay attention to him before, he specifically points to the Hebrew texts and problems with how many English translations render scripture.
@@Chomper750 You said he reads Hebrew but he goes on to say Man of war? When in the Tanakh it says MASTER of War? go learn for yourself. "Man perish because of the lack of knowledge"
Dr. Heiser at his best!
Could Isiah 53 apply to anyone else? Yes.
Does Isiah 53 explicitly state vicarious atonement? No.
Does Josiah 53 say worship the suffering servant? No.
Yeshua/Jesus is God's Son.
King David said "Kiss the Son lest He be angry".
Yeshua said, "I am the way, the truth and the life. None comes to the Father except through me".
Amen
And no one knows the Father except through Yeshua. So Moses and the prophets were lying. They were following Yahweh Satan. The god of this world.
@@sarashepard7504 Moses and the prophets were certainly not lying. They all encountered the Lord, the Angel of the Lord, or the Spirit of the Lord.
Joshua even fell on his face and worshipped the Angel of the Lord, and the Angel did not rebuke him!
Who could this be but the Lord?
@@YeshuaIsTheTruth you miss the point. THE LORD, Yahweh, Jehovah are all the dark angel. The angel of death. Moses and the people and the prophets were being led astray but this evil one aka the devil, Satan. Yeshua was the only one that manifested the Father (the Creator). Making Moses a liar. The devil held those people captive with his destruction, curses, temptations and death. That was not “God” the Creator, it was the god of this world. Remember he wanted to be god, he tried to overthrow god. He offered Yeshua the world if he bowed down to him. Joshua was a another tool who was brain washed into thinking that “The Lord” was his Creator. The veil remains over the eyes of those that cannot see Satan for who he is. The angel is Satan.
@@sarashepard7504 .... nope.
So much rubbish
Mike God raised you in this particular era to bring back lost knowledge of the scriptures so that the gods (powers) who have been hiding in the shadows might be expose in broad daylight for everyone to see
Thing is they were already exposed. That was the entire reason Jesus did everything He did including descending into hell, preaching to the prisoners and raising from the dead with all authority and power. They're not exposed by saying 'Oh, there you are.' They're exposed by what Jesus did PROVING that HE IS GOD and THEY ARE NOT.
There is only one.
@@thetruthchannel349 : A scripture one might want to consider carefully.
Peter's words:
Acts 2:32 God resurrected this Jesus, and of this we are all witnesses.
Jesus had to be dead and God alive for God to resurrect Jesus. Only the dead can be resurrected.
I hope this helps.
@@tongakhan230 *Congratulations. Thats one of the DUMBEST things Ive seen posted in quite some time. If you were ANYMORE ignorant you would have to be DEAD*
@@tongakhan230 "Jesus had to be dead" *What is the Biblical definition of DEATH?*
5:06 some jews/proto-Christians believed that his Yahweh must prevail. that's why we have Yahweh as the king and he destroyed by its priests the Old relgions of our ancestors. Bandua is my king
Thank you for sharing
No Heiser doesn’t imply that Trinitarianism is reliant on prooftexting. Also, prooftexting is not necessarily a negative thing. Even Jesus used proof texts to make His points.
Heiser also does not say that the NT is explicitly Binitarian. Heiser is a Trinitarian not a Binitarian.
Yes, it’s true that the Jews were Binitarian during the Second Temple period. There is a traceable history of progressive revelation in the Bible. It is no different with the Holy Spirit. The personhood of the Spirit was not fully revealed until the New Testament writings were formulated.
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ. The flesh being the tent, the immaterial part of our existence being the actual person. This means the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of Christ are the same person.
@@andyayala5639
It doesn’t mean that the Spirit and Christ are the same person. The Spirit is also called the Spirit of God. Jesus calls the Spirit ‘the Spirit of your Father’ (Matt. 10:20).
@@danielshaolin6053 and who fathered Jesus? The Holy Spirit conceived a child with Mary. The Holy Spirit is the Father also.
@@andyayala5639
You just said that Jesus and the Holy Spirit are the same person. You can’t have it both ways. Your Unitarianism or Pentecostal Oneness false doctrine doesn’t make sense.
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@@danielshaolin6053 Right. One God. One person. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are the same person. The Spirit of Christ is the same person as the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the Father.
Satan was what happened and certain wicked ones tried adding too and taking away from scriptures
So you don’t really know what was authentic and what wasn’t. The RC church edited translated changed didacted the NT. You trust a system (ie RCC), many don’t even believe has correct Xtian beliefs to be your conduit for your entire belief system.
@@brentkaufman1723 We do know. The Qumran scrolls and the Ethiopian Church have preserved material from the time of Christ AND BEFORE so we are not dependent upon the RCC.
@@suzannehartmann946
If you believe in the validity of scripture, look into Jacob Prasch. I believe hes 1 of the better people to look to for help understanding the prophetic significance of the Bible.
Just Like The Days of Noah is a good start.
We can use common sense to figure it out. Paul mentioned the simplicity of Christ. We are made in the image of God, we are both body and Spirit we are one entity, we are not a trinity. So, God is both body and Spirit like us. We read this in, 2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. God did not trash the flesh when He finished with it on earth, he raised it from the dead in a Spiritual body and made it His habitation as God Almighty. John saw Him in the book of Revelation. We read this in, Heb 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels' spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom. The Trinity is wrong, Jesus is the only God we will ever see. We read this in, Rev 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: Rev 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
Where can I find the entire lesson?
John looked at Jesus as the word of God and as the representation of God. I look at Jesus as the Human manifestation of the invisible Spirit of God. The Spirit in Hebrews the first chapter says, “But to the Son, He sayeth, thy throne O God is forever and ever, the scepter of thy kingdom is righteousness.” Christ was with God before the world came into existence. One prophet says that He was from everlasting. God almighty manifested in human form as our saviour is the whole theme of scripture. Jesus said, "Joh 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. Jesus was the incarnation of God Almighty in Human flesh.
this guy is on another level. thank you for sharing all your knowledge
Dr Heiser: You have been a GODSEND for me and hundred of THOUSANDS even MILLIONS of folks yearning to EXPERIENCE YHWH'S /CHRIST JESUS'S
TRUE LOVE 💘 COMPASSION for we imperfect SOULS.
In 1980 my beloved sister-best ❤ friend was murdered. We survived considerable VIOLENCE by military alcoholic parents. We were finally adults .....skiing the fabulous Mt Rainier enjoying freedom from that INSANITY
For a Holy Spirit filled Christian this is obvious. And still the Jews are confounded...
The Jew Jesus said that his God and Father is the only true God(YHVH). .....was that Jew confounded also in your estimation ?
Lol
I am not confounded. Let me ask you guys this (without looking it up): What is Isaiah 52 about? What is Isaiah 54 about?
Not here to be tested. Just make your point.
@@bosse641 good point
(The God of Bible is Idol of Stone)
Reference are mentioned below
Genesis ch.28 v.18&22
[18]And Jacob rose up early in the morning, and took the stone that he had put for his pillows, and set it up for a pillar, and poured oil upon the top of it.
[22]And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee.
Psalm
Ch.59 V.9/Ch.59 V.16
Ch.59 V.17/Ch.16 V.3
Ch.62 V.2 to 3/Ch.44 V.1&2
God is High Tower,
Psalm
Ch.31 V.2&3/Ch.71 V.3
Ch.94 V.22
Proverbs
Ch.18 V.19
2/Samuel
Ch.22 V.3
God is Strong Rock
Psalms 84:11
God is a sun 🌞
Book of Revelation
Ch.21 v.23
23 The city does not need the sun 🌞 or the Moon 🌕 to lighten on it, the God lighten on it,
The 🌞 & 🌕 God
Finally
2nd Corinthians ch.4 v.4
The 😈 Satan is The God of this world
Isis(Moon 🌕 God)
Ra. ( Sun 🌞 God)
El(Supreme God of pagans)
Is+Ra+El= Moon 🌕 Sun 🌞 EL 3 Gods in One Trinity proved (IsRaEl)
I am not trying to troll, and I am not being critical of Christianity. I am saying, as an educated Jew, his conclusions about Judaism are not correct. There is no hidden knowledge in Judaism. There is no conspiracy to hide information. Quite the opposite, actually. Jews are expected to study extensively, and to think critically about our texts, and to question everything.
Not that I agree with any of his conclusions but, from an objective standpoint, how do you know if something's being hidden from you?
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Its different with each temple. Jews have come out of different temples to speak against such crimes from the people of the temple. Do not forget Lamentations and the sins that caused the temples destruction. Theres a reason no temple is here.
The Meaning of One
1Co 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is ONE Spirit.
The Spirit is God's essence. Spirit is what God is, and the Spirit He is is the Holy Spirit. That is the missing key to understanding "the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. The reason the Father and the Son are One is because they are the Holy Spirit. This scripture makes it plain. The Spirit is also how we are one in them when we believe.
Ro 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but IN THE SPIRIT, if so be that THE SPIRIT OF GOD DWELL IN YOU. Now if any man have not THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of his.
10 ¶ And if CHRIST be IN YOU, the body is dead because of sin; but THE SPIRIT IS LIFE because of righteousness.
11 But if THE SPIRIT OF HIM THAT RAISED UP JESUS from the dead DWELL IN YOU, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by HIS SPIRIT THAT DWELLETH IN YOU.
Ro 12:5 So WE, BEING MANY, ARE ONE BODY IN CHRIST, and every one members one of another.
1Co 10:17 For we being many are ONE BREAD, and ONE BODY: for we are all partakers of that ONE BREAD.
1Co 12:12 ¶ For as THE BODY IS ONE, AND HATH MANY MEMBERS, and all the members of that ONE BODY, being many, are ONE BODY: SO ALSO IS CHRIST.
In the exact same way, Jesus said,...
Joh 10:30 I AND my Father ARE ONE.
Joh 17:11 ¶ And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that THEY MAY BE ONE AS WE ARE: (IN THE SAME WAY)
Joh 17:20 ¶ Neither pray I for these alone, but for THEM ALSO WHICH SHALL BELIEVE IN ME through their word;
21 THAT THEY ALL MAY BE ONE; AS THOU, FATHER, ART IN ME, AND I IN THEE, THAT THEY ALSO MAY BE ONE IN US: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that THEY MAY BE ONE, AS WE ARE ONE: (IN THE SAME WAY)
23 I IN THEM AND THOU IN ME, that they may be made perfect IN ONE; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
Joh 17:24 ¶ Father, I WILL THAT THEY ALSO, WHOM THOU HAS GIVEN ME, BE WITH ME WHERE I AM; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for THOU LOVEDST ME BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD.
25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I IN THEM.
Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another COMFORTER, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for HE DWELLETH WITH YOU, AND SHALL BE IN YOU.
18 ¶ I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU.
Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and WE WILL COME UNTO HIM, AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM.
1Jo 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
Jesus comes to us in the Holy Spirit. The Spirit doesn't leave them, it emanates from them. That is how God is omnipresent. His Spirit permeates every place in heaven and earth.
In the book of Revelation, in the last two chapters, where it talks about the new heaven and the new earth, we find no mention of the Holy Spirit. But the Holy Spirit is there, in the Father and the Son. What we do see is a river of life flowing out of the throne.
Re 22:1 ¶ And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
Joh 7:37 ¶ In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
Joh 4:10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water. 11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water? 12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle? 13 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again: 14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.
Ex 20:1 ¶ And God (Elohim, plural) spake all these words, saying,2 I am the LORD (YHVH) thy God (Elohim, plural), which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. 3Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Ex 3:14 And God (Elohim, plural) said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
I AM - ( 01961. hyh hayah, haw-ya: to exist, i.e. be)
Joh 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM. 59 Then took they up stones to cast at him:
Rev. 1:11 I AM Alpha and Omega, the first and the last:...17 Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen
Re 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD (YHVH) the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD (YHVH) of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Joh 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM. 59Then took they up stones to cast at him:
Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one. 31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
YHVH is not one or the other. He is both and they are one.
I would imagine that most Rabbis could explain these verses very well according to their theology, never count them out, they’ve dealt with this for hundreds of years.
Accepting Jesus as Messiah will help you understand he is the one like the son of man. Wish all could believe to salvation.
How can you accept him unless you come to that conclusion first. You need pray and read the text first with much prayer.
@@lampkin9287 Exactly.
Add Ruach Hakodesh, (motherly spirit, wisdom) and you have the trinity.
I have a plausible alternative explanation for why the name "Yahweh" appears twice in Gen 19:24.
Check out the following verses: Gen 12:15, 40:13, 41:8, 41:14 ... this is just the first 4 instances where the title "Pharaoh" appears twice in one verse. These verse aren't referring to two Pharaohs.
My explanation is simply that it seems pretty common in the Hebrew Bible to repeat names for clarity, so there is no confusion regarding who is being spoken of.
Its not that simple. Take psalm 110 for example "The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool." Even though "the LORD" is Yahweh and "my Lord" is Adonai, it is known from context that the psalmist's Adonai is Yahweh, so you have two Yahweh's (actually three because the first Lord then speaks of a Lord that is neither of the two), especially if you take into account that when one would recite the verse they would say adonai instead of Yahweh, so one would have heard "Adonai said to my Adonai", and have the two speak with each other. Or take psalm 45 "Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.
Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore oh God, thy God hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows." So we have, God, who is also a king, but then this God has a God Himself that annoints Him. So what is happening here? If you go further in this psalm you see a particular woman, who is the king's/God's daughter, and at the same time she is also a queen (in ancient middle eastern context, the queen mother, because the kings had many wives and concubines, so the queen was always the king's mother, and not his wive(s)). Therefore this female figure is God's daughter, but also God's mother. So you have two Godly figures, one of whom is also a litteral man, because there is this woman that is His mother. Things are much more complicated than what they seem to be.
@@kostpap3554 Thanks for the reply, I appreciate the input!
In Psalms 110 the most likely candidate for "Adonai" is the Messiah. This Psalm reads a lot more naturally as Yahweh assigning the Messiah his role! I think it seems like a stretch to say that the Adonai mentioned in Psalm 110 was intended to be Yahweh Himself.
Happy to be shown any explanation to the contrary though!
@@lizzard13666 I don't think its a stretch. Imagine a jew of the 1st century BC, hearing from the psalm my Lord/Adonai. Who would he have thought David's Adonai is? Yahweh. Now as he would have heard the recitation he would have heard "Adonai said to my Adonai, sit at my right hand until I place thine enemies as a footstool at thine feet" since the divine name is always replaced with Adonai. So if David's Adonay is Yahweh you have 2 entities that are both Yahweh. Even if the second Adonai is the Messiah (which he is "Thou art a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek"), this makes the verse even more complicated because He is addressed as David's God, ie Yahweh, so the messiah appears as both God and man at the same time. This also happens in Isaiah chapter 9
"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and his rule shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."
So you have a child, the power of whom has his origin in Himself, and who is also called "Mighty God, Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace". There is also psalm 45 "Thou art fair amongst the children of men: grace is poured into thy lips: therefore God hath blessed thee for ever.Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.
Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore oh God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows."
Again you have a man, "thou art fair among the sons of men", who is blessed and annointed by God "therefore God hath blessed thee/thy God hath anointed thee", but at the same time he is also God "thy throne oh God/therefore oh God" A very logical way to make sense of this is to assume that the Messiah is both man and God. This would explain why the woman in the following verses is described as both his daughter (as God), and his mother (as man).
And lets not forget the third Adonai of psalm 110.
"The Lord (written YHWH, recited Adonai) hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou (Adonai) art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.
The Lord (Adonai) at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath."
This third Adonai is treated equally to the second Adonai, so if David's Adonai is Yahweh, then this third Adonai is also Yahweh.
I don't know how you make sense of this, but I don't think its that simple.
@@kostpap3554 Hey thanks for your thoughts! I appreciate the effort. I have to admit I'm not totally convinced, but I'll think and pray about it!
@@lizzard13666 Psalms 110 the Second l Adoni is not the name of God.
It doesn't say Adonai it says Adoni
Totally different
It’s really ancient Egyptian teaching.... but whatever... it’s only written on the walls...
So does this guy ever tell people how to get saved ?
Would you care to supply a Bible verse or council reference which says we should consult academics on salvation? Because I am pretty sure St Paul points us to the Apostolic (i.e the Orthodox) Church. Set up by the Holy Spirit on pentecost.
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Paul was pointing people to Jesus, not to Mary or dead people or icons. Real Church of Jesus is made of true believers and followers of Christ.
@@nikokapanen82 all throughout the Old Testament before Jesus was ever begotten God tells you how to be saved through repentance and charity
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But without the Holy Spirit one cannot truly repent and worship God is Spirit and truth.
@@nikokapanen82 re-read the Old Testament there is no middle-man for God, he is a jealous God , and there will be none before him only God can cover your sins if you truly repent and mean it's in your heart. Even Jesus tells you to pray to God only
Matthew 6:5 through 6 pray to the father how and where
Thanks
Dr. Mike, Is there a video posted with the entire presentation. Very interesting & thanks. - George
Search YT for "Two Powers of the Godhead" and "The Jewish Trinity", both by Dr. Heiser. Enjoy!!
@@FreeRadical7118 Thanks!
[Pt.1] UNSEEN REALM SEMINAR w/ Dr. Michael S. Heiser: Supernatural Worldview of the O.T. ua-cam.com/video/bZ-OwSH7IYM/v-deo.html
Heiser: The Jewish Trinity ua-cam.com/video/Hz8J4DTIkEg/v-deo.html Heiser The Divine Council full lecture ua-cam.com/video/FvjXcnb0fPU/v-deo.html Enjoy
This is part of the Unseen Realm 101 lecture series, from the Awakening School of Theology.
awakeningschooloftheology.com
@@DRMSH thanks!
Hi Dr, are you aware that even the great Rabbi Akiva understood Daniel 7:9 to mean one throne for God and the other for the messiah. See Talmud Bavli Hagigah 14a. I read the Aramaic but here is the English translation from Sefaria:
The Gemara poses another question: One verse states: “His throne was fiery flames” (Daniel 7:9), and another phrase in the same verse states: “Till thrones were placed, and one who was ancient of days sat,” implying the existence of two thrones. The Gemara answers: This is not difficult. One throne is for Him and one is for David, as it is taught in a baraita with regard to this issue: One throne for Him and one for David; this is the statement of Rabbi Akiva. Rabbi Yosei HaGelili said to him: Akiva, how long shall you make the Divine Presence profane, by presenting it as though one could sit next to Him? Rather, the two thrones are designated for different purposes: One for judgment and one for righteousness.
I think Michael Heiser has completely misunderstood Daniel chapter 7, as I explain below. Also Gen 19:24 (where Yahweh is mentioned twice) is probably not a description of two divine Powers, but rather the ubiquitous nature of the one Power, called God, Who is simultaneously in heaven and on earth. The oneness of God is indicated in the Shema (Deut. 6:4-9 and elsewhere), which bears no sign of a duality. However, my focus is on the book of Daniel. If God were a duality of Powers, I would expect this to be clear in the Tenakh, and made clear by Moses.
Daniel chapter 7: First, note that the one Daniel saw was "LIKE a son of man", not actually a man/human being. The speaker often omits the "like", treating the term as a particular man (perhaps blinkered by the NT). But we can see from the text that It is a metaphor/symbol. The "one like a son of man" is a metaphor for God's kingdom and His people (the Jews). THE ANGEL PROVIDES THIS INTERPRETATION AND MEANING IN VERSE 18.
Here's the meaning: Just as the four horrifying beasts described in chapter 7 are not real animals but symbols of the pagan empires of the Babylonians, Medes, Persians and Greeks, so in the same way the final image of “one like a son of man” is NOT an individual, but a SYMBOL or METAPHOR of “the holy ones of the Most High”. See Dan. 7: 14: “Then to him [the one like a son of man] was given dominion - glory and kingship. Every nation must serve him; his dominion is to be everlasting, never passing away...”
The angel explains this vision to him in verses 16-18: “These great beasts, four in number, mean that four kingdoms will rise upon the earth. BUT THEN THE HOLY ONES OF THE MOST HIGH WILL RECEIVE THE KINGDOM AND POSSESS IT FOREVER.” So there we have the meaning of the "one like a son of man", as I put in capital letters. In summary, just as the four beasts were symbols for the pagan empires that fell and passed away, the one like a son of man is a symbol for God’s holy kingdom peopled by the holy ones of the Most High. The image comes “with the clouds of heaven” (Dan. 7:13), which symbolises God’s manifestation (a theophany), confirming God’s presence, authority and blessing which accompany the symbol of the one like a son of man. IT IS NOT JESUS OR ANY PERSON. IT'S JUST A METAPHOR. Note that there are no markers for (or pointers to) Jesus in those verses. The image of the one like a son of man doesn't come down to earth (as Jesus did). It is not a redeemer or messiah or an atoning sacrifice (key markers for Jesus). And there is no death or sacrifice undergone by it. Moreover, there is no divinity associated with it. The metaphor is ushered into God's presence like a vassal or servant would be. It doesn't stride in to meet God. It is "led" into God's presence, which indicates a subordinate position.
Note also that the “one like a son of man” does not come down to earth from heaven (as Jesus supposedly did), but rather is brought into God’s presence. In the same way, purified Israel will come into the presence of God to receive everlasting dominion and God's blessing, and so will replace the depraved kingdoms of the pagan world.
Yes it's all explained within the book itself. IDK why all the extranious theory. I think it's a bit dishonest to overlook the interpretation within the text.
In my experience you get a better understanding by taking time to study it yourself rather than having someone explain it to you because they can so easily guide the interpretation.
@@YahLion77 , yes it's explained by the angel. If there is rabbinic writing from the Talmud that perceives a midrashic messianic implication, that would not be relevant to a Christian (or messianic/Christian) understanding, since Christians don't regard the Talmud as inspired. Secondly, rabbinic writing is _midrashic_ in nature, _not_ exegetical. In other words, the rabbis are not analysing the text to find a primary or literal meaning, but an expansive meaning, and their concept of messiah is quite different from the Christian one.
Yeah ok Sandberg-stein. Take those semitic deceptions elsewhere.
The only passage that's confusing is the one from Genesis in Sodom and Gomorrah. The others ones are easily understood.
The "name" YHWHs meaning is revealed throughout Exodus, already from the burning bush scene.
Nowhere in the Bible is God called son of man. So in Daniel it's probably the future king that approaches God who sits on a throne.
Thank you! I have a beautiful Jewish friend I will share this with.
Leave Jews alone.
It's enough that your Worshiping an Idol against the 10 Commandments
Hi I'm Jewish
I am here to share to you that you are full of lies. You are wicked, repent! Repent now! Sister I know you want to love G-d. Love HIM! do not love a man. Repent and Hashem who is full of kidness will forgive you.
@@walleras you don't have to be Jewish to know the Truth and the obvious
@@shhiknopfler3912 Apparently you do according to Jeremiah 16:19. Who am I to contradict G-d Himself?
@@walleras So you posted this on Sabbath?
Just making sure?
Your right about Jeremiah. But what your doing is trying to say that non Jews no one can know the truth and with that your points is just wasting time.
Or if you think Some might learn truth, than you'll have to admit to me that you don't need to be Jewish to learn truth.... 😅
Deep but I hope you'll understand.