I still like a wired mouse most of the time. I never have to worry about it being charged up and the nicer paracords don't really make them feel tough to use. Thumbs up.
I have the regular OP1 and it's superb, 10/10 build quality and ... it allows us to change the mouse button switches hot swappable. This single feature makes all other mice look like they forgot something. Turns out getting switches you love is worth more than just about every other feature on a mouse.
I don't understand how the XM2 8k is not carrying more hype The op1 8k hit like a bomb and basically the only isssue anyone ever had with it was the extremely small shape, so the xm2 8k is kinda the drug everyone needed no?
what I was thinking... I guess people just hyped more cause the op1 shape looks better even tho smaller, but I pulled the trig on xm2 as I have quite large hands
100%. So many of us wished the OP1 was a bit wider because those of us with shaky hands need more stability in a mouse which is why the XM2 8K is what we've been waiting for
The XM2 8k is a nice refresh, most people outside of endgame gear fans aren't going crazy for an updated xm1 in 2024 tho. Still a really good buy and probably the top claw mouse for the price
The biggest real world difference between the sensors is probably the LOD. The 3950 can go down to 0.7mm and the 3395 only to 1mm. It may not sound like much of a difference but you have to keep in mind that the sensor always has some distance to the surface so the the actual distance you need to lift the mouse can easily double or tripple from 0.7 to 1mm. Personally I love 0.7mm because the tracking cuts off instantly when I lift my mouse but I've ordered an xm2 and I hope I can get used to 1mm again. Maybe I'll just mod the mouse and make the skates higher if I can't
OP1 8k is a crazy good mouse for small hands, and xm2 8k for medium hands with a claw grip. Getting my OP1 8k purple frost and XM2 8k dark frost this weekend also!
@@lepari9986 ive heard that. But who knows when they releas ethe xm2w 😅 im not even thinking about it anymore, just one day, hopefully within the next year or so, there will be a review on youtube all of a sudden on youtube, and thats when I know they finally released it. Until then I stick with my xm2we
@@lepari9986 you work for them or how do you know? All I can say, that it didnt help much to boost my confidence for a soon release when they took the mouse off of their website...you cant find the xm2w anywhere
tj exclusives has a viper v3 pro base that Reduces weight by 5.4g. also the stock skates are heavy on the viper v3 pro so you can bring the viper v3 pro
I have both op1 8k and the viper v3 pro , my hands are a little smaller than your's and op1 feels better than the viper in my hand. StruthGamingGear have Clawmate, which I have ordered as like you said the op1 8k is a little narrow and hoping this will give me a more consistant claw grip.
I read over a few years ago that Endgame Gear was making its own ergo mice. I forgot where I read it from. Is there any new words on this, or was it just fake news? I've been waiting for so long...
Is it safe to assume that the OP18K and the now XM28K will have similar performance and click latency? I loved the OP18K, but it ultimately was too small for me.
I use both claw and fingertip grip (80% claw, sometimes fingertip) and have pretty large hands. Would this likely be more comfortable to use than the OP1? What's the weight difference between the two? Any recommendation(s) for mouse bungees?
ran into that too, bit of a bummer but I'm used to shit not coming to canada at this point lol. Was thinking of trying out one of those reshippers but idk.
Would u say this mouse is better than a gpx superlight , my gpxs has some wierd issue where the side buttons don’t respond properly and I’m stuck with buying a new gpx superlight or a xm2 8k I need help
@@S.Brito.Leo_ oh I get that. If they had a pink or green one... mmmmmmmh!!!! I do think that purple is a very acceptable and clean color for most people though
why any other wired mices dont have the upward type of slope on their cable like those endgame gear mouses have. i am using the deathadder v3 wired, the cable is nice but the upward slope would make it better. any easy mod for this?
yes + they actuate as soon as the metal leaf of the switch moves, so you're essentially actuating before the switch has even pressed. 5/7 insane speed. I could tell the diff in tac shooter
Got problems with my op1 8k wired on a artisan fx zero.. mouse arrow starts bouncing in a very small area sometimes. Did I get a broken sensor or does anyone else have this with that combination? Don’t have the issue on my raiden.. but I don’t want to wear out the raider on regular office
has anyone tried the za13c and op1 and could tell me if its worth to try out the op1? i think the za13c is the perfect shape but I've been curious to try the op1
6:20 I find a large mousepad is more of a problem for low sens than using a wired mouse is. The amount of slack you need to fully use a 500x500 pad basically defeats the purpose of using a bungee
@@SilentJoNn What part was illogical lol all I said was that wired isn't a problem for low (or any) sens on a standard pad, which is true. Using wired on a large pad is what's difficult. Chill out
@@silly1281 Oh yeah I personally didn't get the issue once I put the bungee further or with less slack. If you're comfortable with your mouse no need to switch imo.
@@notitle5846 "Just don't use it" is such a bad argument. If it has the option I wanna use it, doesn't matter much to me if I can't really tell. I'm schizo enough that I want it on unless it's lagging my game. Also love everything else about the mouse anyway I'd use it even if it didn't have the 8k option but to me the wire is a positive instead of a negative, probably unpopular opinion but that's how I feel.
@@slobry only two advantages of a cabled mouse is that it’s cheaper and you don’t have to charge it. Literally nobody prefers wired. The only reason people are buying them is because the wireless isn’t an option
your hands have the look of someone who palm grips. chonky hands. og deathadder main since 2013 (still have your original copy), secretly likes the dav3 but will never admit it. the coating where your fingertips touch the triggers and the fingers that make contact with the mouse has faded to nothing but maybe a few dead skin cells
yo 2017 called they want their mouse back
Chill man
XD
@jtdripp you have absolute zero clue what you're talking about. have fun with your gpro superlight
@stefan-xm1xl its a joke man
2017?
This transparent shell is actually very nice reminds me the Game boy Color
weve been waiting for xm2w so long i died
rip
@@boardzyriptickle
are you still dieded?
@@rad2400 i was dyed yellow
We are all in the afterlife currently
I still like a wired mouse most of the time. I never have to worry about it being charged up and the nicer paracords don't really make them feel tough to use. Thumbs up.
Same here, it you prefer wireless it's only because all the bluetooth/wifi/5g has damaged your brain.
@@kesamek8537I agreed with you
I bought the lethal slim cable and tj exclusives lightweight base for my OP1 8K and I really happy with it.
I have the regular OP1 and it's superb, 10/10 build quality and ... it allows us to change the mouse button switches hot swappable.
This single feature makes all other mice look like they forgot something.
Turns out getting switches you love is worth more than just about every other feature on a mouse.
Doesn't XM2 8k have the same features? Both of the mice kind of look the same to me. Probably size and shape are different
@@mrwater2033size and shape yes if ur a XM1 or XM1r fan like I am then XM2 8K or XM2we will be great
@@Wyn3e I have XM2 now :D and the shape is absolutely perfect! it actually surprised me
your literally the best mouse reviewer you even inspired me to make this channel ty bruh ur the best
purple frost looks really exquisite! I hope op1w releases soooooooooon!!
Love the whole wire thing, very innovative
I don't understand how the XM2 8k is not carrying more hype
The op1 8k hit like a bomb and basically the only isssue anyone ever had with it was the extremely small shape, so the xm2 8k is kinda the drug everyone needed no?
what I was thinking... I guess people just hyped more cause the op1 shape looks better even tho smaller, but I pulled the trig on xm2 as I have quite large hands
100%. So many of us wished the OP1 was a bit wider because those of us with shaky hands need more stability in a mouse which is why the XM2 8K is what we've been waiting for
The XM2 8k is a nice refresh, most people outside of endgame gear fans aren't going crazy for an updated xm1 in 2024 tho. Still a really good buy and probably the top claw mouse for the price
I just prefer smaller mice so I'm on the OP1 8k. 🤷🏻♀️
not exactly because the shape for op1-8k is definetely a very different shape.
The biggest real world difference between the sensors is probably the LOD. The 3950 can go down to 0.7mm and the 3395 only to 1mm. It may not sound like much of a difference but you have to keep in mind that the sensor always has some distance to the surface so the the actual distance you need to lift the mouse can easily double or tripple from 0.7 to 1mm.
Personally I love 0.7mm because the tracking cuts off instantly when I lift my mouse but I've ordered an xm2 and I hope I can get used to 1mm again. Maybe I'll just mod the mouse and make the skates higher if I can't
OP1 8k is a crazy good mouse for small hands, and xm2 8k for medium hands with a claw grip. Getting my OP1 8k purple frost and XM2 8k dark frost this weekend also!
I have ridiculously small hands and the op1 8k is the best mouse I’ve ever owned for only $75 usd
@@jonathan-qd1cc I have 18x10cm hands and have been loving my OP1 8K! The value for this mouse is crazy good!
My copy of the PF didn't have any creak. But I agree, the transparent plastic is more prone to it.
creak is worth it for the vibes tbh
WHHHHAAAT XM2 8k? Xm2we is my main. Literally buying one RIGHT NOW!... Best mouse shape I've ever used hands down. ( for me obviously )
Those Frost Colorways are so incredibly cool. I hate them so much for not having brought these out for thei wireless mice
White and dark frost will both be available for OP1w 4k and XM2w 4k.
@@lepari9986 ive heard that. But who knows when they releas ethe xm2w 😅 im not even thinking about it anymore, just one day, hopefully within the next year or so, there will be a review on youtube all of a sudden on youtube, and thats when I know they finally released it. Until then I stick with my xm2we
@smey02 oh okay, that's fair, it's been a long time. It's coming out this year so you'll be positively surprised 🙂
@@lepari9986 you work for them? Because the fact that the xm2w isnt even on their website anymore didnt help much to lift my hope up haha
@@lepari9986 you work for them or how do you know? All I can say, that it didnt help much to boost my confidence for a soon release when they took the mouse off of their website...you cant find the xm2w anywhere
mouses are obsolete, please review the red dot trackpoint of the thinkpads
😂
Thinkchad nipple masterrace
The purple op1 8k is making me feel things 🤭
XM2 8K is now released
I can die peacefully now
tj exclusives has a viper v3 pro base that Reduces weight by 5.4g. also the stock skates are heavy on the viper v3 pro so you can bring the viper v3 pro
I have both op1 8k and the viper v3 pro , my hands are a little smaller than your's and op1 feels better than the viper in my hand.
StruthGamingGear have Clawmate, which I have ordered as like you said the op1 8k is a little narrow and hoping this will give me a more consistant claw grip.
Might aswell call this an OP1 8K Purple review because that was all you spoke about lol
The XM2 8k is what it appears to be
just bought the op1 purple . had the white for about 6+months now
I read over a few years ago that Endgame Gear was making its own ergo mice. I forgot where I read it from. Is there any new words on this, or was it just fake news? I've been waiting for so long...
Maybe they had something planned, but they move very slowly as a company so it may have gotten scrapped. Or it could be in the pipeline
I think it's still in the pipeline, but yeah, dat pace. @@boardzy
They spoke in an interview the other day again about a "third shape" they will release sometime soon, I assume it is that
Thank you so much, guys!
Is it safe to assume that the OP18K and the now XM28K will have similar performance and click latency? I loved the OP18K, but it ultimately was too small for me.
Yeah they have identical performance
I use both claw and fingertip grip (80% claw, sometimes fingertip) and have pretty large hands. Would this likely be more comfortable to use than the OP1?
What's the weight difference between the two?
Any recommendation(s) for mouse bungees?
I loved the OP1 8k but its too small for me I didnt knew it at the time so should i get the XM28k?
Hi boardzy appreciate it.
lots of gaming mouse release this time , zowie with their whole lot of lineup is gonna be my most awaited , vaxee also gonna release a new mouse
I have the new vaxee mouse, will be covering it soon!
@@boardzy theres also the upcoming xm2 8k and finalmouse , really excited
What shape is recommended for a largish (8" long, 4.5") wide hand, with a palm/relaxed claw grip? Would the XM2 shape be good?
skate tierlist when?
Man I've been waiting on those aliexpress r2 skates for weeks and ik if I make a list without trying them people will freak out
@@boardzy ah i see, hope they come soon
was planning on getting the xm2we but saw a 4k xm2w was planned is release soon? should i wait or should i get the xm2we for now
DO THEY SHIP TO CAnada?
How light are the clicks compared to the VXE mad R for example? the only thing that put me off buying the XM2We was the heavy switches
what skates did you put on the op1 and would you recommend them for tacfps?
My OP1 8k Purple frost is also creaking 😢
Why doesn’t the purple op1 8k ship to Canada?
ran into that too, bit of a bummer but I'm used to shit not coming to canada at this point lol. Was thinking of trying out one of those reshippers but idk.
Kinda wanna upgrade from my basilisk v2 to the xm2 but my hands are pretty big, would the xm be a decent option or should i look elsewhere
Would u say this mouse is better than a gpx superlight , my gpxs has some wierd issue where the side buttons don’t respond properly and I’m stuck with buying a new gpx superlight or a xm2 8k I need help
Which skates are you using on the op18k?
is this the new Sony INZONE M10S monitor? (lg woled 480hz)
@@f4ilXX yes I’ll talk about it soon
Please give us your top 5 switches
Will you review the lamzu paro?
why did i read shockingly = somehow
ARTISAN DOT SKATES WEN BOARDZY??
would this be a good buy if i have a lamzu mini but need something a bit bigger?
@boardzy you think i should buy an astisan hien w wl mouse max and wooting 60he+ while being at war or nah?
I don't understand why EGG has the reputation it does. My first XM2we had a grindy right click. My OP1we has side flex and popping.
Will they release a dark frost version anytime soon? thanks in advance :)))
For the OP18k I'm not sure if they have other colors planned, for the XM2 my copy is the dark frost version
they announced a dark frost and white frost version on computtex for the new wireless op1 4kw
@takutolovex i wish they released the op18k with the new sensor on more colorways tho
Purple looks sick but doesn't match my setup at all 😢
@@S.Brito.Leo_ oh I get that. If they had a pink or green one... mmmmmmmh!!!! I do think that purple is a very acceptable and clean color for most people though
What is that monitor you are using??
yo should i buy mouse off of aliexpress or nah??
Will you be reviewing the new glorious mouse?
Probably
Should i upgrade to the new op1 i have the op1 normal
Is this the new xraypad ?
why any other wired mices dont have the upward type of slope on their cable like those endgame gear mouses have. i am using the deathadder v3 wired, the cable is nice but the upward slope would make it better. any easy mod for this?
bend it yourself
Is the mouseskate tier list still happening?
I asked in your Discord but no joke people just responded with "Skibbidi" 😢
Yes
@@boardzy that's so skibbidi. Thanks
@@eg8568 lmao
its actually a nice mouse, i have one and it doesnt make the creaking noise
Good upgrade from xm1r or not worth the price?
Definitely worth upgrading imo
definitely worth upgrading ... new sensor, new firmware ... nearly 20g less weight
great video boardzy, no i didn’t watch it yet
just finished the video, if you are getting a translucent one PLEASE don’t be a death gripping sweaty mongoloide 🙌🏽👍🏽
can you review the new attack shark mouse
🙂
After being thoroughly shocked by your shocking insight, you will be shocked to know that I will purchase this mouse.
nobody talking about the 2 mouse 1 hand grip in the thumbnail
😬
Is that really the op1 8k have fastest switches in market?
Yeah it has the lowest click latency of any mouse. However it won't make a meaningful difference for 99% of people
@@boardzy thanks brother
And please im fan of gsr mousepad
Is there any more control and slower mousepad than gsr?
Thanks
@@Altamimi911 *floor*
@@Altamimi911artisan type 99
yes + they actuate as soon as the metal leaf of the switch moves, so you're essentially actuating before the switch has even pressed. 5/7 insane speed. I could tell the diff in tac shooter
If only they upgraded the XM2 with side wall clicks 🥺
Waiting for my dark frost xm2 :3
If they make a large OP1 8k im all over it immediately.
shocker!
Got problems with my op1 8k wired on a artisan fx zero.. mouse arrow starts bouncing in a very small area sometimes. Did I get a broken sensor or does anyone else have this with that combination? Don’t have the issue on my raiden.. but I don’t want to wear out the raider on regular office
"I can perform with this" 😏
op1 8k or xm2 8k for tac fps?
It depends on your hand size and grip style more so than the game
Matches the 8 bit do pro 2 purple 🎉❤
Zowie needs a za wireless already 😢
there is one coming out to the public lol
It will finally release, hopefully within 3-6 months
it exists already za13 wirelesss, im waiting for the za11 tho
@@99in16 omg it does I swear I checked the other day and nothing was there
@@boardzy 65 grams for 150$ in 2025 will be diabolical, I don't understand why the chinese companies don't try to copy zowie shapes
its weird but i get stutter on 8k in kovaaks but not in games but my v3 is fine
Anyone have stutter problems with their copy? I also have the wobbly clicks as well.
Is there a mouse under 60 dollars better than the VXE Pro?
take the 20$ extra and op1 8k is your best friend anr best investment you can nake money wise on a mouse
2 weeks ago i bought the op1 8k black
Return it
Do i get the mid type 99 for fortnite?
I prefer the zero soft, if you want something higher friction for better stability the type99 would be a good pick
@@boardzy Okay thank you :D love you
I'm a schizo I like light clicks. Also purple.
has anyone tried the za13c and op1 and could tell me if its worth to try out the op1? i think the za13c is the perfect shape but I've been curious to try the op1
I main the ZA13 and I don’t think they’re anything alike X2V2 mini will be the most close
what a shocking video, you are shockingly most shocking youtuber :>
they're doing everything before releasing wireless versions that everyone wants lol
I just got the black op18k, come on!
People act like a wire in 2024 is literal death
How have we still not gotten a 4k wireless xm2 🤯
coming
But if they come out with wireless they'll just print money...
pls make video this mouseeeeee lamzuuuu atlantis mini champion
These mice
W
should i get the op1 8k balck or the purple frost edition?
pretty sure the purple frost is sold out by now. I got the white variant with black mousepad
@@RomanMlejnek i can find it, but should i get it than the normal op1 8k?
@@7zombienine make up your judgement according to the video, it looks cool tho and could have a high resell value in the future
6:20 I find a large mousepad is more of a problem for low sens than using a wired mouse is. The amount of slack you need to fully use a 500x500 pad basically defeats the purpose of using a bungee
Well with a wireless mouse that isn't an issue therefore the problem is the wired mouse
what logic you have there lol, you might aswell say "a wireless mouse is a problem becuase it basically defeats the purpose of using a bungee"
@@SilentJoNnI can't tell if you're trolling or really trying to find a way to argue, couldn't be further from what I said
@@VIVIAN81 i wasnt quoting you. Just saying your comment is not logical and gave an example of something equally illogical.
@@SilentJoNn What part was illogical lol all I said was that wired isn't a problem for low (or any) sens on a standard pad, which is true. Using wired on a large pad is what's difficult. Chill out
Mice have wires in 2024?
Yes and they have peak cables and performance rn
man i wish i could use wired, i play low sens so a wire gets in the way so much
Pulsar ES micro bungee?
How low? I use 90cm for static scenarios and I forget it's wired with a bungee. I also play on glass with it so that might be a factor to consider.
@@jR0xas in game on valorant and cs, having to readjust makes the wire get stuck under sometimes
@@silly1281 Oh yeah I personally didn't get the issue once I put the bungee further or with less slack. If you're comfortable with your mouse no need to switch imo.
Who cares if the click latency is a bit better, fuck that wire man.
You can't notice it much with the way the wire is made
I used to be a wireless elitist until I tried this mouse. Now I cba to charge my wireless mice anymore. 😭 8k just drains your battery immediately.
@@jR0xasjust don't use 8k? There is no difference between 1k and 8k..
@@notitle5846 "Just don't use it" is such a bad argument. If it has the option I wanna use it, doesn't matter much to me if I can't really tell. I'm schizo enough that I want it on unless it's lagging my game.
Also love everything else about the mouse anyway I'd use it even if it didn't have the 8k option but to me the wire is a positive instead of a negative, probably unpopular opinion but that's how I feel.
Genuinely curious why companies still make wired mice. I promise you nobody wants wired
its about to sell out, also still the best performing mouse in terms of raw data but keep coping
@@slobry best mouse in terms of raw data? Ok buddy then why isn’t every pro player using it? Clearly having best raw data is irrelevant.
@@Dah_J because shape is preference just like how a cable is ☺️
@@slobry only two advantages of a cabled mouse is that it’s cheaper and you don’t have to charge it. Literally nobody prefers wired. The only reason people are buying them is because the wireless isn’t an option
@@Dah_J stop generalizing man, who tf is "literally nobody" lmao 🤦♂️. The mouse is almost sold out, have a nice one my g
a wired mouse in 2024?
one of the best mouse available from a technical perspective. so ... yes. infinite batterylife with any pollingrate
your hands have the look of someone who palm grips. chonky hands. og deathadder main since 2013 (still have your original copy), secretly likes the dav3 but will never admit it. the coating where your fingertips touch the triggers and the fingers that make contact with the mouse has faded to nothing but maybe a few dead skin cells
he used to run a dav3 pro for a while and iirc he does use his gpx dex