I have always used a lacour sealer prior to the finishing coats. It has a sandable filler that really aids in filling the grain and makes a very nice surface for the lacour to lay down on. I have not noticed that you use the sealer. I enjoy your work.
Are you referring to sanding sealer? Or vinyl sealer? Either I use only when building a filled finish or if there are issues with the wood that I need to seal. Hasn’t happened on camera, but there are a lot of things I’ve done that aren’t on camera yet. Stay tuned. Cheers.
@@johnsfurniturerepair A precatalyzed nitrocellulose lacquer sealer. It does not fill the pours completely but it bridges them nicely. It must be sanded (220 grit) after curing and produces a fine white powder. The surface becomes silky smooth to which the final coats of lacquer lay in over slick as a whistle. I would suggest spraying the stain on a project like the guitar so as not to get any stain overlaps. There was a slight overlap on the back of the guitar. Almost imperceptible but it was there. Turned out very nice.
Fender usually hides a lot of sins under solid colors...that body, while far from perfect, was not as bad as some I've seen...Nice work, taking the finish off those things is a patience game, although I was a bit nervous watching you take the Dremel sanding drum to it...it's so easy to gouge out a chunk with those things...
Although i like the butterscotch color, the end result was an improvement, seeing these perfect wood grains just gives me the feels. Surely feels nicer too.
WOW, what a process but so we’ll worth it! The stain on that wood is gorgeous. What want to know is how many hours did it take Mr. Trena😂 to sand through that? Beautiful job.💜
This just popped up on my page. Love the channel Trena! I have a couple of questions, what grit did you use to sand this down and why why didn't you just let your wife do it? 🤣.
Next time… heat gun first. Fender poly topcoat finishes are tough as nails but will respond to heat. You’ll still have plenty of sanding to do but it does speed things up. Also I’ve had luck with strippers but only after you get past the color/clear coats. PS you’re lucky there was something under the solid color worth refinishing.
Have you ever tried cleaning with caustic soda (sodium hydroxide)? It is very aggressive and you have to know how to apply it. I used to clean very old furniture with it. And then hydrochloric acid was applied and quickly cleaned with water to damage the wood.
why did u want to get the old paint off if you were going to paint it a solid color? Just rough it up and prime then paint right??? unless u wanted transparent black I guess
My guess it would be and automotive paint and lacquer which Has to be broken down with the MEK ( methyl ethyl ketone and is illegal in some states) Which has a very low flash point It cannot be broken down with gasoline ( so your paint doesn’t runoff when you’re gassing up your car and spill some ) or other common Oil and water based strippers what your normal use mineral spirits or water to thin with. The other easily available solution for this type of paint is brake fluid and it can break down just about any paint and lacquers, but it can soak into the wood and it can never be painting it or staining again, brake cleaner Will neutralize it Well depending on the brand on how well it works.
That was some good paint! Not a fan of Dremel for that use. I've got a Max oscillating spindle sander that works great. The guitar looks much better now.
@@johnsfurniturerepair I've never owned a drum sander but known guys that did. They sort of work but a small widebelt is much better. It is quick and easy to change grits on a WB and the feed system is generally decent. 24" single phase machines are available on the used market. They are simple machines, so easy to refurb. I've got an old 36" Timesaver that I bought new. Been an OK machine. @ 20 HP 3 ph. it is minimally powered. While on the subject of machines: have you looked at the Domino machines? They work really well. For a cheap & easy way to drill a dowel hole: drill a block of hard maple on the drill press. Clamp to the work to guide you hand held drill. If it is something you use often put drill bushings in it.
what a great color bass, but what ever. i hate sanding and go to the woodshop where i live and use the planer, the cylinder sander for the sides and then all thats left is the corners and the contours. i hate painting too so i just do rub on finish. inthe aerospace industry they use a striper called torco. that will work for sure but dont breath it or get it on your hands.
wouldn't a heat gun work more easier stripping than sanding ??? btw way better looking now than before that awful yellow color... nice job to both or you !
As a "guitar guy," removing an original finish can be considered sacrilege... If this were an early "pre CBS" precision bass a refinish can drop value by 75%. I tell clients if they don't care for a color, they should sell it on and search for the color they prefer. That said, this bass looks much better to me 😊
Fender used a Nitrocellulose finish on the older Guitars, so you would need paint stripper for that type of finish, (Like car paint stripper). Yes, I know it's to late now... 5 months to late.
back in the day, yeah. They only use nitro finishes on certain models now - mainly from the custom shop. Fender finishes on their standard ranges are now generally polyurethane. All you need to strip them is a heat gun and a paint scraper (preferably slightly blunted on the edge to prevent gouging into the wood) and the paint comes off fairly clean in relatively big chunks.
@@johnsfurniturerepairhi. Is it a solvent based stain please?? And for the varnish, 2k varnish, or 1k??? How many hours of drying time between the coats and sanded to what grain please??? Thank you.
What a Bubba job on what was a very nice bass that had some age and character. When white gets that yellow tint to it over time it makes the guitar look awesome. The body contours look off now especially the upper and lower horns on the body. The edges of the body are gone now you sanded them right off the guitar. I hope you like it now because you have to play it.
What type of wood was that? Looks like poplar to me, hardly worth such an effort, although it turned out good, still not worth it unless it was a Mahogany or Maple body, also, don't know what lacquer she's spraying, but she better start using that 300 dollar mask she's got, catalyzed lacquer is a bitch on your lungs in the long run, please don't mess them up. You can't repair them like you do furniture, I mean this in a loving way. So beautiful and talented. As a cabinet maker with experience in the matter I can honestly say you're playing Russian roulette, don't mean to be hard on you. God bless
@@johnsfurniturerepair I have exacty the same bass and looking to change the colour out. If you ever fancy another project let me know and I'd be happy to chat. I think you did any amazing job on this and would love to have you work on mine.
I feel that a roasted maple neck would probably compliment the new finish better. Shame about the custard yellow as I'm kinda fond of that colour, although It's all subjective of course... 😉
I had a scary moment when I saw the arm. Then I realised it wasn't Trena's.
Who is he? what made him so lucky?
I knew she didn’t have hair on her arms too…at least I hoped she didn’t…ha!
😂
omg. lol
Love it. Would never be think there was that pretty of a bass under that yellow enamel.
Greatly improved! And it wouldn't surprise me too much if it sounds better, too.
for sure! thanks for watching
What a beautiful Bass Guitar - love your work! It may just be me, but I would have loved to see the neck stained too. :)
I have always used a lacour sealer prior to the finishing coats. It has a sandable filler that really aids in filling the grain and makes a very nice surface for the lacour to lay down on.
I have not noticed that you use the sealer.
I enjoy your work.
Are you referring to sanding sealer? Or vinyl sealer? Either I use only when building a filled finish or if there are issues with the wood that I need to seal. Hasn’t happened on camera, but there are a lot of things I’ve done that aren’t on camera yet. Stay tuned. Cheers.
@@johnsfurniturerepair A precatalyzed nitrocellulose lacquer sealer. It does not fill the pours completely but it bridges them nicely. It must be sanded (220 grit) after curing and produces a fine white powder. The surface becomes silky smooth to which the final coats of lacquer lay in over slick as a whistle.
I would suggest spraying the stain on a project like the guitar so as not to get any stain overlaps. There was a slight overlap on the back of the guitar. Almost imperceptible but it was there. Turned out very nice.
Next time, open the crust by giving it a good scrub with 80 grit, the stripper will lift the paint right off. :)
Fender usually hides a lot of sins under solid colors...that body, while far from perfect, was not as bad as some I've seen...Nice work, taking the finish off those things is a patience game, although I was a bit nervous watching you take the Dremel sanding drum to it...it's so easy to gouge out a chunk with those things...
The Dremel scared me also. Sand paper around a plastic pipe keeps things true.
i was worried about the stain that ran over the edges of the neck etc. Hope that doesn’t affect the sound! But you guys know what you are doing!
Looks great! Nice job Trena!
Hi there! Very good sanding. I'm planning doing to do the same on my 2 Basses and some modifications.
Definitely a more modern look and I like it. Man that was some tough enamel you had there. Looks good though....really good.
Thankyou!!!
Do you offer this service or is this your own guitar?
Really striking. Love the wood tones❤❤
Far more classy looking, love seeing woodgrain!😊
Looks great in each colour.
I think so too!
Although i like the butterscotch color, the end result was an improvement, seeing these perfect wood grains just gives me the feels. Surely feels nicer too.
A new side business? Awesome job. Looks great.
You must be good. Someone let you near their Fender!? Phew! Good work.😉🇦🇺👴🏻
Great job. But…Buttercream is such a great color 😂🎸
😂
WOW, what a process but so we’ll worth it! The stain on that wood is gorgeous. What want to know is how many hours did it take Mr. Trena😂 to sand through that? Beautiful job.💜
lol, about 30minutes
Wow. That looked like a lot of work. Looks great, though.
Looks so much better stained ❤️
This just popped up on my page. Love the channel Trena! I have a couple of questions, what grit did you use to sand this down and why why didn't you just let your wife do it? 🤣.
Lol. I made my husband start with 120 and ended at 180 cheers!
I think the veneer is to make sure that witness lines don’t appear where the wood was glued together to form the body
Next time… heat gun first. Fender poly topcoat finishes are tough as nails but will respond to heat. You’ll still have plenty of sanding to do but it does speed things up. Also I’ve had luck with strippers but only after you get past the color/clear coats. PS you’re lucky there was something under the solid color worth refinishing.
Looks way better then the original finish.
Wow, love the new color!!
At least we all know who the best person is at spray finshes is now.. 🤣🤣😎 Trena got air time...
Aircraft stripper. Spray on works better than brush on.
You got lucky with that one, many aren't that consistent under the finish.
Does the bare part of the stripped back wire under the bridge ground the strings to reduce the chance of shock?
It's a ground wire to reduce electrical noise that will be picked up by the amp.
What kind of wood is it ? Looks like pine?
More likely soft maple or some other hardwood.
Fender bodies are generally Alder...
I was worried at the start, I thought I never noticed how hairy Trina´s arms were.....then all was revealed! Nice job, maybe a darker pickguard?
Have you ever tried cleaning with caustic soda (sodium hydroxide)? It is very aggressive and you have to know how to apply it. I used to clean very old furniture with it. And then hydrochloric acid was applied and quickly cleaned with water to damage the wood.
Hmm. Sounds dangerous. Lol
why did u want to get the old paint off if you were going to paint it a solid color? Just rough it up and prime then paint right??? unless u wanted transparent black I guess
It was stained
Was that the 1891 special stripper that failed? 🤔
Yep. Some finishes don’t soften up again
My guess it would be and automotive paint and lacquer which Has to be broken down with the MEK ( methyl ethyl ketone and is illegal in some states) Which has a very low flash point It cannot be broken down with gasoline ( so your paint doesn’t runoff when you’re gassing up your car and spill some ) or other common Oil and water based strippers what your normal use mineral spirits or water to thin with. The other easily available solution for this type of paint is brake fluid and it can break down just about any paint and lacquers, but it can soak into the wood and it can never be painting it or staining again, brake cleaner Will neutralize it Well depending on the brand on how well it works.
interesting info. thanks for watching
Why remove the paint ? It is a good protection. Just sand mat and paint over.
We did a wood finish
That was some good paint! Not a fan of Dremel for that use. I've got a Max oscillating spindle sander that works great. The guitar looks much better now.
I would also like a drum sander. So many tools I need to buy. Lol
@@johnsfurniturerepair I've never owned a drum sander but known guys that did. They sort of work but a small widebelt is much better. It is quick and easy to change grits on a WB and the feed system is generally decent. 24" single phase machines are available on the used market. They are simple machines, so easy to refurb.
I've got an old 36" Timesaver that I bought new. Been an OK machine. @ 20 HP 3 ph. it is minimally powered.
While on the subject of machines: have you looked at the Domino machines? They work really well.
For a cheap & easy way to drill a dowel hole: drill a block of hard maple on the drill press. Clamp to the work to guide you hand held drill. If it is something you use often put drill bushings in it.
Really nice!
The stain and lacquer make the poplar wood grain pop... not so sure about the Fender Bass.
Leaving a little of the yellow in the neck pocket will help when the next owner researches this bass. Great job. Trina even got some screen time!
any acoustic benefit from that ?
Not sure
@@johnsfurniturerepair thanks for your honesty anyway
Wow nice job, I was very skeptical
Says a lot about the durability of Fender’s paint finishes. Not so sure about it’s effect on the sound of the guitar though!
. Hopefully the satin laquer doesn’t get polished up from playing it and turn shiny. The satin finish looks great
what a great color bass, but what ever. i hate sanding and go to the woodshop where i live and use the planer, the cylinder sander for the sides and then all thats left is the corners and the contours. i hate painting too so i just do rub on finish. inthe aerospace industry they use a striper called torco. that will work for sure but dont breath it or get it on your hands.
So funny. I did the exact same colour change on my Spector, only in reverse!
wouldn't a heat gun work more easier stripping than sanding ???
btw way better looking now than before that awful yellow color... nice job to both or you !
Did you consider refinishing the neck also?
normally you sand off the Enamel coat and chemical strip the rest.... less chance of sanding the veneer through
This is a solid guitar, no sanding through this sucker. Cheers
As a "guitar guy," removing an original finish can be considered sacrilege... If this were an early "pre CBS" precision bass a refinish can drop value by 75%. I tell clients if they don't care for a color, they should sell it on and search for the color they prefer. That said, this bass looks much better to me 😊
Ya it was just a cheepo but I totally agree with you😉
Great video,
Thanks!
I believe that is a polyester finish like that is used on colored pianos.
how many grit does your used sander have?
180, 120,
Fender used a Nitrocellulose finish on the older Guitars, so you would need paint stripper for that type of finish, (Like car paint stripper). Yes, I know it's to late now... 5 months to late.
Stripper didn’t touch it. It must have been either an enamel or post cat lac. Cheera
So how about playing a few notes for us?
Really nice job.
what color stain did you use?
Gunstock walnut from Goudy believe
What grit is the sand paper?
Nice work. I'd be surprized to not see Fender pay attention.
Gotta let hubby have some time in the shop!
he doesnt like it in there. lol
Fender used cellulose lacquer( automotive finishes ) aircraft stripper works.
back in the day, yeah. They only use nitro finishes on certain models now - mainly from the custom shop. Fender finishes on their standard ranges are now generally polyurethane. All you need to strip them is a heat gun and a paint scraper (preferably slightly blunted on the edge to prevent gouging into the wood) and the paint comes off fairly clean in relatively big chunks.
Beautiful 😱🤗👍🏼
Beautiful
I thought your hubby might be a musician. Are you a drummer? : )
happened at the end..was thinking up to that point no..but yeah all good..nice..and very long job
it looks way better !!
Spraying with no mask?😁
Ugh. I always forget to put that thing on. Lol. I will try harder.
@@johnsfurniturerepair Just be safe🤗
@@johnsfurniturerepairhi. Is it a solvent based stain please?? And for the varnish, 2k varnish, or 1k??? How many hours of drying time between the coats and sanded to what grain please??? Thank you.
What a Bubba job on what was a very nice bass that had some age and character.
When white gets that yellow tint to it over time it makes the guitar look awesome.
The body contours look off now especially the upper and lower horns on the body.
The edges of the body are gone now you sanded them right off the guitar.
I hope you like it now because you have to play it.
This was a brand new bass dude. The yellow was the factory color.
@@johnsfurniturerepair lol, slap!
What type of wood was that? Looks like poplar to me, hardly worth such an effort, although it turned out good, still not worth it unless it was a Mahogany or Maple body, also, don't know what lacquer she's spraying, but she better start using that 300 dollar mask she's got, catalyzed lacquer is a bitch on your lungs in the long run, please don't mess them up. You can't repair them like you do furniture, I mean this in a loving way. So beautiful and talented. As a cabinet maker with experience in the matter I can honestly say you're playing Russian roulette, don't mean to be hard on you. God bless
Thankyou
@@johnsfurniturerepair I have exacty the same bass and looking to change the colour out. If you ever fancy another project let me know and I'd be happy to chat. I think you did any amazing job on this and would love to have you work on mine.
Nice job... But the original color si better
Good music.
Ick
Really, spraying without a face mask?
Sorry for this earlier vid. I promise I am much more diligent these days
Nice
Saw hairy arms and thought I had wrong channel
Lol
HEAT GUN!
Nice!
I feel that a roasted maple neck would probably compliment the new finish better. Shame about the custard yellow as I'm kinda fond of that colour, although It's all subjective of course... 😉
Can I send my guitar to you
Removing the yellow from the P.
A heat gun will lift the paint off.
Yes should have given that whirl
Buttercream was better with black pickguard
Computer generated music gave me a headache. Some peaceful guitar kicks would've been appropriate or nothing.
heat gun and a putty knife peels it right off
Yep probably should have
Heat gun!
Yes that may have worked
This is not a colour….😖
H
Look's great better than that yellow, have a nice day !!!.
Yellow looked better.
It was a fun color, but sometimes a change is nice. Thanks for watching!