Yes indeed. I will just have to be a bigot because I don't want a punishment on me or in my line of sight if sex is about to happen. Definitely a turn off.
With all due respect, I will not and won't ever call these surgical wounds "vaginas". A vagina is self cleansing reproductive organ that is so much more than just a *bonus hole* It's just insulting how they think a literal slit or hole is basically a vagina like... No.
Or that poop shoot lining can be used to make a vagina. That’s like taking a piece of lung and putting it where your kidney should be, and calling it a “neo kidney”. No.
IKR?! Calling an open wound between your legs a vagina is like calling a bullet hole in your head an "extra ear". One actually has a biological function, one is just there to look the part. It might look similar, but that's where the similarities begin and end, emphasis on the "might".
As a trans guy with an OEM vagina, you're absolutely right. "Neovaginas" are surgical wounds that must be dilated so that they don't heal up. They don't self lubricate and there's no possible way the textures inside are the same. I can't imagine a straight guy wanting any part of that. I don't think stating reality makes me a bigot, either. I'm not a real man any more than they are real women.
The fact that you understand the insult and undermining of black women's womenhood by comparing us to transwomen has earned you a subscribe from me.👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Yeah im not sure why comparing things to black people is the default. Its never asian or mexican or any other race or ethnicity. Its always black. Please leave us out of your arguments.
@ls-l1518 it has everything to do with it, you idiot. Liberals comparing black women to transwomen and using us as examples to validate the "womanhood" of transwoman not only invalidates the womanhood of black women, but also shows how much the liberals so called equality and acceptance mindset is an insincere facade for morality points.🙄
They aren't comparing black woman to being trans in the situation but being black to being LGBTQ. The LGBTQ has compared themselves to being black since they took over the civil rights movement our ancestors fought and died for. I've heard black and white men day they'd date a trans woman before they'd date a girl with no butt or a fat girl...I'm like make it make sense. I've just realized the Y chromosome hates us.
when bio males say this, they're destroyed with words and humiliated (as they should), but when it's a male in a dress suddenly everybody needs to accommodate his needs. nobody is entitled to nobody's body and sex activities. not that hard to understand.
Agrees. Like who do you think you are to try to bully me into dating you. Because not only will I not date you but, you lost my potential friendship as well and if you make a big scene I will call the cops.
It would be equal if they asked gay men would you date or have sex with a trans guy. Personally I would if he was handsome enough and passed in every other way.
There is no shortage of people who want to f*ck Trans people; the problem is that too many of them are ashamed of their attraction and will treat you like a dirty little secret.
Transitioned 9 years ago and never had a problem finding dates (from men or women) UNTIL this creepy "date us or you're transphobic" narrative started being pushed.
That's sad that it's affecting things for you...these extremists seem to be ruining it for "normal" trans folk. I think it boils down to people don't like being told what to do, who to like & how to live their lives - none of us like that. I can definitely see why you have no problem finding dates - you're very attractive & like Marcus seem to get it. I'd defs date you...I might not be your type tho & that's ok ;) Just subscribed to your channel as well to hear some more sensible on this issue :)
@@gigicolada I appreciate the sympathy - I'm not trying to be a victim though. I currently have a partner and am in a wonderful relationship. I'm more commenting on the general shift among the dating world towards viewing trans (especially trans women who are attracted to other women) being an immediate red flag for creepy person. Ironically the incel energy being put out by trans women becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy because who would want to date a group of people giving off those vibes?
I totally get that and it makes total sense. My preference is way more confusing. I'm bisexual. I would date a trans man, but not a trans woman and it's honestly kinda hard to explain my reasoning. I just go w it. No point in over-analyzing. I've been called a bigot bc of it but like...I honestly don't care that much. Whatever.
Sexual attraction is basically a fragile fantasy, sometime even the wrong HAIRCUT could totally throw people off, let alone sexual alteration. Nobody is obligated to be attracted to anybody. Find the one that want you, and leave others be.
He really is. He's just so damn logical. I love it. Can always count on Marcus to be the voice of reason in all things trans. Even Blaire and Buck aren't as grounded as Marcus is.
Marcus DOES seem like a genuinely nice, decent person... but sorry (and I suspect Marcus probly AGREES with me); Destroying a 100% healthy reproductive system, sexual function, etc. The ONE healthy body she'll ever have, in pursuit of superfically imitating something she can't EVER actually be, is definitionally NOT "sane". I respect that, as a consenting adult, Marcus has the RIGHT to harm her own body this way, for ANY reason the individual chooses, good OR bad... ...but we got INTO this mess, by prioritizing peoples' feelings, over simple, evidence-based TRUTH... (I don't use sex-correct pronouns to be rude to Marcus, who I DO genuinely respect, despite any ideological differences. Marcus DOES seem like a very principled, decent person... I just ALWAYS use correct, evidence-based pronouns, because EVIDENCE-BASED TRUTH MATTERS, and I don't believe you should EVER compromise on truth... And because I don't believe in the 100% evidence-free concept, of sex-independent """gender""'; I accept that OTHERS can have whatever faith-based, evidence-free religious beliefs they want... Just don't demand for ME to pretend to believe them...)
Also the funniest thing is... even if we're gonna go down that idiotic arguement when it comes down to it you are fully within your rights to say you wouldn't date a black woman, it wouldn't even be racist because consent is the thing that matters. Like you are 100% justified when denying your consent for ANY reason even if that reason is no reason at all.
I don't get this argument for a few reasons. 1. why try to force someone to be attracted to you when they simply aren't? Someone will be. find them. 2. why the double standard? If a man went up to a lesbian and said "well I have a great personality" he would be ripped to shreds. Same if a lesbian went up to a straight girl. It's just that simple. Trans man is not synonymous with man, same with women. I'm so tired of our community trying to be normalized when we Are Not normal. Just accept that you are different and move on.
one of the thing i saw a few months ago was a stupid tiktok where some wierdo said if you transition and you partner needs time to think about it then leave, like yeah it depends on the personallities but i said it before some of these trans relationships are straight couples identifying as trans
@@dollface2907 Whaaaaat??? That’s so selfish and narcissistic. If you’re transitioning while in a relationship, your partner is losing something that they were attached to… How can you blame them even when they’re taking it well? Such a cruel thing to say about the person you’re supposed to love more than anyone else in your life.
Transbians are no better than the men of the past who correctively raped lesbians. They just hate that we know they're rapey men who can never be women and that's why they hate us.
There is no shortage of people who want to f*ck Trans people; the problem is that too many of them are ashamed of their attraction and will treat you like a dirty little secret.
One of my issues with this whole thing is the assumption that everyone is promiscuous: the whole “but have you TRIED it?” mentality and the expectation that it’s all about having sex willy-nilly rather than looking for a life partner. In a life partner, you’re looking at many factors such as shared values. Many people don’t want to date someone if they already know that person isn’t a life partner candidate for any number of reasons. This insistence from extremists that everyone must be open to dating every type of person on earth is ridiculous, selfish, childish and ignorant. And who the heck wants to date someone they had to beg to go out with them?!
It really disgusts me how these people treat sex like holding hands, just doing it with anyone without any consideration, I'm 22 and virgin not because of religion but because I just don't feel like throwing myself at the first guy that treats me well
@@naty8646 Exactly! I’ll be friends with pretty much anyone as long as they’re not mean and disrespectful. But choosing a partner is a lot deeper than that. You should be allowed to implement whatever dealbreakers make sense for you.
I lived 6 years as a trans man before detranstioning. I would not date a trans person. Ive been around the community and ive seen & experienced the egotistical & narcissistic behavior.
Unless the trans person who thinks like Marcus or Blaire, then I will NOT date one because of that very reason. I'm bi, so I don't really care about genitals. What I do care about is how people act. Half the "community" is very.... insane.
@@gimygaming8655 I’m a Trans woman and I agree with you. However, the problem with Marcus and Blaire is that they give raging Transphobes more ammo and point them in the direction of a less fortunate Trans person, just to save their own ass. It’s kinda embarrassing how long it took me to realize this.
@Celephinn true. While there are actual transphobes, you can't blame Marcus for attracting transphobe. That's like blaming a kid for attracting terrible adults from liking them. Everyone makes their own choices. Marcus is not extreme in any of the views. Very down to reality
@@CelephinnThe ones who are giving "raging transphobes ammunition" are the entitled, aggressive, misogynistic and violent members of your own community who counter every disagreement with threats of cancellation, rape or violence.
All these people dictating who and what you should be attracted to need to stop it. It's not your sexuality, it's somebody else's. Just because some people can do it, doesn't mean everybody can do it or should be guilted into it. Stop acting like "sexuality police".
it isn’t just about attraction either. Trans people tend to be infertile and you couldn’t start a family with them unless they didn’t have bottom surgery.
I don’t even mind when people say they would never date people of certain races. That doesn’t offend me at all. If you’re not attracted to black people, it’s not the same as hating them or thinking they are lesser than. It just means you don’t find them attractive and that’s fine. My husband is white. My mom doesn’t find white men attractive. Like she can look at a white man and say if he is handsome or not, but she just never felt sexually attracted to one.
Yep, I have a strong preference for white men and am married to one. I've never been attracted to black men or brown men but that doesn't mean I think they're all just unattractive. They just aren't my type.
@@rebeccahicks2392doesn't matter since the bottom line is no one has to date anyone they don't want to, whether that's due to physical preferences or sexual orientation or whatever else.
@@JessG_20 Yes. The person trying to make that point sounded idiotic. Because it’s OK if you’re not attracted to trans people, just like it’s OK to not be attracted to short people, tall people, skinny people, fat, white, black, Asian, Latino, etc. I’ve never found a trans man attractive until Markus 😁
Exactly, like I know that I'm not attracted to women, but I still can compliment and acknowledge when I see a woman who is attractive. Doesn't mean I want to date her, but I can still appreciate her beauty. (This is the same for any race or ethnicity)
Just because you're not attracted to X type of person doesn't mean you hate them or see them as less than human. People can have "preferences" in height, weight, hair and eye color, skin tone, whatever. It's not right to shame someone for not being attracted to you for any reason.
People like Marcus are very easy to accept, he doesn't make his entire life about his identity. He doesn't push and he speaks out about the wrongs in his community. You have my support and I think you're doing a great job ❤
Another tjing which should be easy to accept : being a woman/man is not an identity. The difference is literally embedded in your DNA . Marcus is a woman.
I would not say no to dating a trans person who did not have a bottom surgery (I'm bisexual and yup, want that organic genitalia 🤣), it's not a deal breaker for me. but what is a deal breaker for me is when someone thinks they are entitled to you because they are trans and that you are transphobic for not wanting to date them due to this. and I know bisexuals like me get a lot of heat because 'why do you care, you are attracted to both men and women', and this is super wrong.
Yeah, that's totally not how that works, right? I've known I was bi-sexual since kindergarten, but the body types I'm attracted to would exclude trans-people. I like extremely manly-men aka great big brutes with natural...ahem...eggplants, and pretty girls my own size and shape (petite) with real breasts and "apple blossoms" (I don't know what the young people call it online)...or that's how it was when I was younger and my husband and wife were still alive. We made a happy thrupple for many years back in the days when you had to hide relationships like ours so that you didn't get the kids taken away.
I am bisexual like you but. I am not attracted to trans people. Either you are a man or a woman and I want you in your natural body form. That is my preference and I won't change it
@@pagangrandma9218why did the thought of your happy thruple make me a bit teary? It is so rare to find joy and harmony with other humans and you were a joyful 3!!! What a blessing!!!! 💛 I am sorry for your loss and hope you have some joy, love and peace in your life. ❤️
That would be why the term ‘PANsexual’ was invented. Bi is bi = 2: man or woman. Both including the combo’s are Pan. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but being accurate helps prevent the ‘you should be attracted’ bs. I found out my man was an autogynephile when we lived together, and he really had no idea what the problem was, me being bi and all. Well I wasn’t pan, and really didn’t like to be deceived with something that important 🤷🏻♀️
Had a former friend who hadn’t had phalloplasty yet, but insisted I sleep with her. I was married at the time, still am, but that didn’t matter to this creep. I’m intentionally misgendering her for what she tried to do to me. Her logic was that me being a “cisgender” woman meant that she didn’t have to ask for consent. So she pulled me close in the pool and tried to get under my swimsuit when my husband was in the bathroom. I cried. He came out and dove in to separate us. We left pretty quickly after that and ghosted her. She was a monster.
It's not entirely the same. In these mind of these lunatics, not wanting to date someone because they're trans means that you're not accepting them as their gender (because if you did, you wouldn't make it a dealbreaker), and therefore you are transphobic, and therefore you're complicit in some coming genocide of transpeople or some similar shit (all this doesn't play a role if you don't want to date the same sex).
I’m transsexual had my bottom surgery and I perfectly understand people don’t want to date me and doesn’t offend me at all!! I didn’t transition to date people.. I did it to feel good, that’s it.. I always say to people if they think of transitioning to be, first of all, ok to accept solitude and then think of the rest..
I don’t think there is enough emphasis that transitioning is going to be a deal breaker for a lot of people. Anything less than acceptance is framed as bigotry and telling that person they are a victim. There is NO way that is good for someone’s mental health. It sounds like your choices were right for you and you are in a good place. I wish that could be said about more trans people.
I'd just tell other t girls don't give up because life is lonely as hell without a partner friends are cool and so is family but it isn't the same I don't see how asexual people live but then again I'm not them and that a good reason why.
@@QueenMali420 if you are not transsexual, you cannot understand the solitude we face.. even if solitude is part of human’s life, we all live in a straight world that makes it harder cfor us..
@@kenzi.h I'm a transexual woman and I'm engaged life for me would always be missing a piece if I weren't already taken, I've tried being single and I just can't go more than one year it's just become to lonely and your Also asexual right I was saying I can't understand asexual people not trans people trans men are just us with a different spin on the experience since they're XX men and all.
Im honestly baffled by the whole "date trans or your transphobic." So much time was spent saying that you cant control what you are attracted to, now im told to change what Im attracted to, or being asked how I felt if my boundaries were violated. Its... baffling.
I had a male partner who claimed to have gender confusion, and he wasn’t sure if he was trans or what. At the time, I was drinking a ton of social-justice kool-aid and I thought I had to tolerate whatever gender he was to be a good person. Long story short, he ended up cheating on me with multiple people. I was very young and uneducated at the time, but in the past few years (thanks to you, Arielle, and Blaire) I’ve learned a lot about gender identity, fetishes, agp, etc. I’ve come to terms with my past relationship and I believe he was either an agp or had a fetish for pre-op trans women. All that being said, after that experience and the trauma I experienced - I would definitely not date a trans person. I just can’t bring myself to deal with that trauma again. I have friends who are trans and I love them dearly. But I can’t do the romantic thing again.
I don’t have an issue with dating someone who is trans and I can understand why someone may have an issue dating someone who is trans but we are not allowed to talk about it or agree with individuals like Marcus Blare and Buck
I think many people would agree, that if they find a person and they happen to be whoever they are then love is love. I think the problem comes in when this ideology tries to make a generalized presupposition to a specific personal choice. Everyone should decide for THEMSELVES! Stop trying to make my choice for me! Some people love to tell others what to do. In this case, I am definitely pro-choice.
exactly. Imagine criticizing a lesbian who has dated trans men, that they should have no problem dating a biological man since they are now bi sexual and if she felt uncomfortable dating one, she ignorant XDXD
I'm not into dating a trans individual. It simply wouldn't work between me and a transwoman for example because I'm physically attracted to the male physique, but not to the female gender. I have trans friends of course. My dating/sexual preferences don't include that however.
It reminds me of the stupid thing some very egotistical guys with a big sense of entitlement used to do years ago at girls. They were so full of themselves that if a girl was not attracted to them and/or simply was not interested in dating at all at the time, then she must be a lesbian. They'd get so taken aback and be like, "Wut? You lesbian or something?"
I will add to that that I think it is possible to be attracted to somones personality. I just can't look at someone and think "I would sleep with that person, they're attractive". I first have to get to know them to start dating. I always dated only someone who previously was at least my friend. I simply can't do it any other way. Also I dated many diffrent kinds of people. When I was young I was thinking that I was into tall guys, but then started dating my friend who was max 165cm and I was attracted to him. I was thinking that when it comes to women I was into pettite girls. But I fell in love with a tall and overweight gal (she was my BEST friend first). I was always thinking that I can never be attracted to bald person. But my husband started balding and he shaved his head... and I was still attracted to him. At the top of that I always found only thin/skinny men visually pleasing and my husband wanted to start exercising. He got bulky and I was still attracted to him. I always found full beard not visually pleasing. But my husband wanted to try getting a full, long beard. From someone I founded visually pleasing - a skinny man with head full of hair and only a small mustache and small goatee he became someone who I would consider ugly if I wouldn't know them. But I was and am still attracted to that one "ugly" man who is my husband. If he became woman I would still be attracted to him (we tested some app and oh boy... he would be really pretty girl). If he somehow became short I would still be attracted to him. To me not being attracted to him he would have to change his personality. And only that would make me find him really ugly (even if he would physically be the men he was when we first met). I was with someone who was really really visually pleasing to me. When we were best friends I could stare at him and I would listen to his voice mails over and over again (at that time I found his voice really sexy). But his personality turned out to be not what he was presenting to me when we where friends. And immediately he became really ugly in my eyes. I just could not find him attractive anymore even if I tried. His voice became something I can't stand. And it's not like he hurt me and that's why his attractivness dropped in my eyes. When we started to live together he became trully him and I coudn't stand that parts of his personality that I weren't aware of until we lived with each other over a year. It was nothing hurtful, just the opposite of personality traits I found... attractive. I still think he was and is a good man. I think he found a woman who wasn't botherd by his personality traits that I couldn't stand. And I'm happy for that. But I can't find him attractive anymore. Not when I know this side of him. I am someone who is attracted to personality or "brain". And this is just the way I am. I can do nothing about it.
i’m a republican but am still very live and let live. However it gets to a point where you just can’t ignore how absurd some of these people are on both sides. it’s really sad that people just can’t live in peace with different opinions.
Hi Marcus, I can't thank you enough for having created this channel. My perception on trans people have been always given to me by cultural prejudices and main media. Fortunately that has changed today. I learned a lot from people worldwide. I even subtitled one of your videos so my partner and daughter can enjoy it better and comment on it together (we speak spanish). Thank you for producing this content.
Thanks for addressing the constant comparison between Black women and trans women. Not that there’s anything wrong with comparison but Black women and intersex folks always get brought up in trans women discussions, unprovoked.
Oh, there is a lot wrong with comparing Black women to trans women. It's coming from a disgusting racist and misogynistic point of view of these people that says Black women are the same as men pretending to be women. A better comparison to trans women would be "white women in blackface"
The trouble is I've seen so many videos about how these surgical interventions continue to try and heal themselves, as the body is meant to, I can't imagine the discomfort.
as a straight transexual male, im fully aware that most women wouldn't want to date me, and thats completely okay. me not being biologically male is a big turn off for a lot of women and i get it lol. so i would never be offended by their preference. it is what it is and at the end of the day you like what you like so it doesn't matter much to me. not sure why so many people get so pressed over preferences. if you dont like dick you dont like dick (and vice versa), its as simple as that. 🤷🏽
I thought s3x and gender are different why do y'all have to be so confusing?! 😩 If you're not bio male, you should call yourself trans MAN, trans identified males means a trans woman. That's how all of social media uses the words can you please just go along with that instead of stealing ANOTHER word?!
It's taking the long way around to lesbian. Biological female taking male hormones, maybe some surgery to pass as male, doesn't make them male. If their dating another female it's female homosexuality undercover. Lol. As long as their happy who cares but it's not heterSEXual.
exactly. Imagine criticizing a lesbian who has dated trans men, that they should have no problem dating a biological man since they are now bi sexual and if she felt uncomfortable dating one, she ignorant XDXD
I find this whole thing so disconcerting. The typical end goal of dating is to find a potential partner to spend the rest of your life with. Folks can be as choosy as they darn well want to. I'd much rather be with someone who likes me for me from the get go than someone who I guilted into dating me and becomes resentful later. There's billions of people in the world. Stop obsessing over folks who aren't interested and focus on finding the ones that are.
I would not date someone who is trans because I am only attracted to someone who has the sexual characteristics of a woman and I would be weirder out by an artificial lady part. I wouldn't even date a skinny girl because I prefer someone with more curves to them. At the same time I don't care if you're into trans women, everyone had their own personal preference and that's fine. It's not fine to attack people for their preferences
Freaking “preferences,”… so we’re back to that old game in the timeline The new attack is your biological sexuality and your associations with individuals through life which will create attractions through life of who you’re interested in and who you’re not - and NOW, all of a sudden, it's wrong and a “PHOBIA” because you don’t want to date or sleep with someone…. Like many “preferences” are based on, your biological sexual orientation also associations with others throughout your life experiences, so it’s a combination of nature AND nurture - NOT nature versus nurture. …AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO STOP SAYING “GENITAL PREFERENCES” - IT MAKES YOU SOUND LIKE A WEIRDO!!!
I randomly had a Twitter discussion with a man who dates transgender women. He said he does it so his family doesn't bother him. Yes the family supposedly doesn't know. But he still gets to experience gay sex. I'm straight and married. But this guy on Twitter, I told him his family knew . They are just being polite.
I think we as woman are so forgiving that we can actually fall inlove with a personality and not just the outside. That's why you see so many odd pairings. Speaking from my own experience, I've been in relationships were I was not initially attracted to the person, but they won me over with how they good they treated me and how nice of a person they were in general. That "forgiveness" of the appereance is even more prevalent in the lesbian community, which is precisely the reason why all these guys have attempted to infiltrate that world. It's the Chris-chan effect: if you can't get dates as guy, pretend to be a woman to coherce lesbians into liking you. It's disgusting. That being said, most of these trans people who want to force you into dating them don't even have a personality to begin with. It's all a power fantasy to them. They don't even want to date among themselves, and that's very telling.
Thank you for pointing this out, I love Marcus but had a bit of a problem with his point on not being attracted to a personality. I don't really get along with people so granted, all of my examples of attraction are based on fictional characters lol. But almost all of my "fictional crushes" I kind of hated at first. Took me a year of playing the game or whatever first before I seriously loved them, I needed to see their personalities. The way they act, stuff they say, how they treat other characters, their likes and dislikes etc. None of them are conventionally attractive. Some of them made me realize appearance doesn't matter as much as I thought it did. Example: I never liked long hair on a guy and didn't think I'd ever like any amount of pudginess. But one of my "crushes" has long hair and a belly, and I think he's thoroughly adorable. That being said, no I wouldn't date a trans person lol. Sexual attraction doesn't have to be one or the other, it can be both sex and personality based. I can love a female's personality: that makes her my friend not my partner because I'm not into women. But life has proven to me time and time again that I'm incapable of being attracted to appearance without personality. Show me some stereotypical "hot guy" with abs. It does nothing for me. Show me an "ugly" guy who's personality I adore and he's the most handsome man alive.
So, in the past I found that I needed to get to know someone before becoming attracted to them. If I'm attracted to a personality I start to find random physical traits about the person attractive. I think in a scenario I was single I would date a trans man if I happened to fall for their personality. However, I am a mother and I have always wanted children, and the want to have children in this scenario would sadly deter me from pursuing a trans person unless I really liked them. It's unfair but it's truthful.
"If I'm attracted to a personality I start to find random physical traits about the person attractive." I'm the same way but they would lump us in a box and call us demisexual
@@ItsSimplyAless exactly! When I was part of that crowd it was like you said, demisexual and demiromantic. The label describes how I am but it's not a sexuality 😂
@ItsSimplyAless EXACTLY. I find someone physically attractive when I'm emotionally involved, even if technically they aren't seen as attractive. They are to me... I feel like that's normal, not another sexually
They have a "sexuality" for it: "Demisexuality is a sexual orientation in which a person feels sexually attracted to someone only after they've developed a close emotional bond with them." No doubt they have a whole bunch of other words with identical meaning to this... Just like with "Pansexual" which is just a fancy new word for "Bisexual", lmao.
not a gender, but a sexuality already exists: pansexuality. the woke says bisexuals feel attraction towards bio women and men (and genitals, and binary sex etc.), while pansexuals feel attraction towards personalities, not body parts as if it's something mystical and better in pans while bis are a bunch of transphobes and outdated. pansexuals actually feel superior to bisexuals because of this. that's why none of them identify as bisexuals, but pansexuals, omnisexuals, polysexuals and more.
@@MyouKyuubi Demisexuality just needs an emotional connection, and that doesn't have to be based on their personality. You can have nothing in common with someone and still develop a bond by, say, spending a lot of time with them at school or in the workplace. And you can be strongly attracted to someone's personality without having had the time to develop an emotional bond with them. And pansexual means being attracted to all genders, whereas bisexual can mean only attracted to, for example, men and transmen but not anyone feminine-presenting.
Wow Marcus. Look at you!!!! I feel like a proud mama bear. Been here since the almost very beginning and seeing how your channel has grown and how YOU have grown... Aw man... Just so happy for you!!!!! Bravo babe, bravo!!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👊👊👊 ❤❤❤
This is the first comment ive ever left to youre channel, although ive watched a lot of youre content. Thank you. For always being honest. Honest about youre thoughts and feeling, and how you view the world. It means a lot. Greeting from Finland.❤
I personally have dated two trans men in my life thus far. Each time is pre_transition. After my second trans partner transitioned, I started losing sexual interest. I was attracted to them as a person but the anatomy wasn't adding up in my head. I think I've come to figure out that I prefer the appearance to match the genitalia. I see your perspective as my own and you speak my concealed thoughts, so I'm more than happy to be one of your newest subs 💪🏽
next step in this, will be people using this logic when actually having s*x. Like, if the man I'm going to be with is into hardcore BDSM and tying me up, something that I simply can't handle due to trauma, and he's saying that I'm kinkshaming him because I won't do it... using this logic is nothing less than emotional manipulation and blackmail. "If you don't do this or that, then you are hateful"
I would never date a trans person I haven’t tried it and I really don’t want too there’s nothing wrong with that no matter how much they pass or if they have the bottom surgery because it don’t work the same way I want to have kids one day and even if I didn’t it’s still not the same
@@glykera That argument is silly. Most couples don't find out about fertility issues until married and actively trying to get pregnant so it would still be a deal breaker at first if known. Many couples adapt and find other means but that is often out of necessity. It's a whole other situation going into the relationship knowing they will never go through a pregnancy together.
90 % of what I am attracted to is personality. I only date smart, witty, sensitive men. Their looks are secondary. I dated my husband for a long time before I found him attractive physically. After tgat, I fell in love so hard, because I fell for his personality first.
"I only date smart, witty, sensitive men." Hmm... I'm curious about what you mean by "sensitive"... Because a sensitive man is a man that is sensitive to stuff, so... A man that emotionally overreacts to stuff all the time? That doesn't seem right... But hey, i'm not kinkshaming. xD Or, do you mean "attentive"? Or, do you mean "empathic"?
@@MyouKyuubi i don't know if it's because english isn't my first language, but what you understood as "sensitive" i understand as "emotional." an emotional person (for me and my language) is someone who overreacts and let their emotions completely control them, while sensitive people are empathetic, nice and in touch with their feelings but not in a insufferable way. i think that's the way op was thinking.
To the guy who compared not dating trans people to not dating black people, I thought you’ve been trying to say this whole time that it’s not the same. Like you can’t identify as another race because you feel like it. Anyways, my response to him is no, there’s not a single person on the planet who’s identity is black but in reality are something else
I would not date a trans person, but that does not mean that I can not appreciate how beautiful Blaire White is for instance or Marcus (handsome). Thank you again Marcus for being a voice of reason :)
My guy friend slept with both women & trans women. He said the vaginas are absolutely NOT the same. Also he said their scent still smells male, like the sweat & musk. He no longer dates transwomen.
I'm 66 now. I've found that what I find attractive has evolved over the years. And yes, for me at least, a lot of attraction has to do with the personality, the mind. I would encourage people to think of how they would feel if someone they loved and had deep attraction to was suddenly terribly injured and now totally different, physically. Would the developed love and attraction disappear? Or, might there be the ability to evolve what one can be attracted to? Think of men who lose their genitals in war -- they are the same men in many ways, but deeply injured. ... What about people who are terribly deformed by necessary surgeries (such as for cancers). Or, what about other things that can "disfigure" a person? Attractions and love can still happen. While a superficial first encounter might not have you finding them attractive, by getting to know the person they can *become* attractive to you when at other times you would not have thought it possible. Attractions at first glance are very different from what one can have once one knows the person.
Three things: Yes, if people experience sudden and drastic changes to their appearance, it is common that attraction disappears. Remember the guy who was horribly disfigured in Iraq, and went on to marry his fiancée? They split up shortly after. That's OK. Physical attraction is important. That doesn't mean we all need to be supermodels, but you should find your partner physically attractive, and you are allowed to no longer find them physically attractive if they suddenly no longer look like themselves. Secondly, what you're writing sounds very gaslighting. No, we don't need to work on ourselves to build up a physical attraction to someone. I've found people attractive who are not classically beautiful. That's normal. But I've never started to feel physically attracted to someone I didn't find attractive from the start. Trying to build a physical connection when there isn't one naturally is doomed to failure because you'll always remain susceptible to suddenly get very attracted to someone who is truly and naturally your type. And thirdly, differing physical appearance is not the same as being trans. I find both men and women sexually attractive, but I would never date a transidentified male.
I’m glad to have found you on UA-cam. You make so much sense! Why can’t more people online be more like you? Thanks for bringing this discussion. I hope more people see it so more people might find better ways of thinking about real tans issues.
I sometimes feel like these videos are just a convoluted excuse to say “bUt bLAcK PeoPlE”, like just keep that shit out of your mouth. Quit dragging them into it, they have their own shit to deal with and, ultimately, it isn’t *exactly* the same thing… also, why do you so desperately want to date someone who DOESN’T WANT YOU? Why set yourself up for that humiliation and pain?? If someone doesn’t want to date me because they’re not attracted to indigenous girls, I don’t have any interest in putting in the time and effort to try and change their mind; I also don’t think it’s particularly racist, either, because most people’s attractions are very much based on what your own parents ans family look like, as much as we hate to think of it… but a white girl with a white mother who grew up around white people in a white neighborhood isnt likely to be attracted to my auper native features - and I’m not likely to be lusting after her, either, because I wasn’t socialized with her features in my aunties and teachers and such. I went off the deep end there, but like… why is the first argument always dragging in black people - who did not ask to be there and are being RACISTLY used as a token. Come on now. Anywhoodle…. 7:28 this is the thing that makes me crazy - like as a lesbian, the accepted terminology is that I PREFER females… no, it’s not that a prefer a female to a male. If I don’t have a partner, it’s not like men are ANYWHERE on the radar. Idk why we use “sexual preference” when we don’t mean preference - we mean “I like this, *not* that!” Terminology aside, I am so sick of this almost like… Forcing it. People have genital “deal breakers”. Someone who’s not be attracted to thin people aren’t expected to just TRY ONE. Some folks are the opposite - not attracted to fat people. Okay. We’re not saying lesbians are misandrist for not “trying” some eggplant 🍆 and we don’t call gay men misogynistic if the don’t wish to practice polishing the pearl 🦪… why is it this *one* thing? And, yea… it’s starting to feel a bit rapey guys. Quit it.
@@BenishaMcFerrin Thank you for replying… I’m Kalispell and not black, so I’m not always sure that it’s my place to say that… but if I’m this fucking tired of it, I can’t imagine how frustrating it must be for you! It doesn’t matter WHAT people are talking about with regard to discrimination, the first thing out of these people’s mouths is ALWAYS “well would you ______ that to a black person??” It feels a little like the oppression Olympics, a lot like treating ALL black people as one monolith as though there is not a ton of diversity within the community, and it’s mostly just cringy and pedantic. Stop it. Fuckin white people. 😂😂😂
Dating has a function. We are interested in the other sex for reproduction and the continuation for our species. We're hardwired to do so. Those that fall outside that can date who they want, but there's a reason why I wouldn't want to date a trans woman. Frankly they should want to be with someone actually accepting of them rather than guilt tripped into it. What kind of relationship is that?
@@wheatstonebridge Of course, my point was that we're biologically hardwired this way. If you're reproduction isn't working the way intended, then that doesn't mean that you don't get to live your life.
I love the fact that once the gay movement made such strides to make us equal, and feminism finally saw that women are equal... a wave of neo-tran people came along and now s3xual orientation is based off gender, having a s3x preference is now a fetish and choice, and being a man/woman is portrayed as a stereotype/characature. We faught hard to be seen as more than a label, to break out of the boxes society wanted to force us in. Why are we now making more labels and shoving ourselves into boxes and demanding others do the same?
Only criticism of this video is you didn’t say ‘it means the world to me’ after the super thanks thing. I always say it with you at the end and it caught me off guard. Please bring it back. Love ❤
Marcus, you are such an intelligent breath of fresh air, and I love listening to you. I seriously wish there were more people out there who actually had logic and common sense like you do with these situations. I feel like we are so outnumbered by the idiotic and insane. Also, to answer your question, I would not date a trans person. I'm a straight, biological woman, who is attracted to biological men.
Here is how I see my personal taste. I am Hispanic yet I have ZERO attraction to Hispanic/ Latin men. I feel like I would be dating my cousin. 😂. With that being said, Latin men are of course attractive but I’m not attracted to them. And I have felt this way since I was a teenager. It’s been a long time. And it’s NOT going to change!
@@animationeditz5570It’s possible, as you can read. The familiarity can be a turn off to a lot of people and “otherness” is more appealing. As a Hispanic woman I wasn’t attracted to Hispanic men for the longest time, until very recently. They are still not my preference, especially ones who are of my particular culture, and like OP says it can feel like dating a relative.
THANK YOU!! I'm a Latina and feel exactly the same! I can't look at a Latino at all because they do remind me of my cousins too. I'm only attracted to White men, to the disgust of some of my family members. 😂
One major problem for all of these people that don't understand people not wanting to be with trans people. Every one of them is talking simply about 'hooking up', sexual encounters, 'have fun'. Whether they want to believe it or not, there are still people who date, looking for life partners. And, guess what? For a good number of those, that means children.
I remember 6 or so years ago when i got netflix and watched the Buck Angel documentary and at the end they're like "oh yeah, buck's vagina got gangrenous a few times so buck needed a full removal of the uterus and ovaries". that right there let me know that trans-genitals were a no-go.
I think I would bc I'm bi. But I prefer women and female genitalia. I think is completely fine to have this preference bc it doesn't change attraction in my case. I find attractive what i find attractive, and thats the beauty of it.
All for it, but that would moreso be Pansexuality. Bisexuality is the binary genders without all the gender identities involved. Though, don't let me stop you from calling yourself a Bisexual if that's how you see yourself. It's just in case you didn't know about the Pansexual term.
@@Fandom_Gremlin I used to use the pan label years ago. The reason i don't, is that part of being pan is not having a preference in gender per se, while I have a clear preference. Also often pan is associated with all genders, but since there are only 2, I don't feel comfortable with it. Hope it clears that out, but still thanks for your comment.
I'm early this time! I'm not sure if I'd date a trans person or not. I think it would have to be someone who has been out for a while and passes, but brings it up early in the relationship. That way, I would have time to decide if I still love them even with the new information. I personally judge someone based on their character, their interests, their personality. Idk I've heard so much about trans people going stealth until way too late in the relationship, and that is a hard no. But someone who admits early on that they are trans, well, I'm not going to cut it all off just because they revealed that side of themselves.
It’s very rarely us trans folk saying it’s transphobic to not date us. Just a few delusional voices that were louder made the headline to make the rest of us look bad. Quite annoying
Your insight, clarity of thought, and refusal to abandon reality is always comforting. Instead of debating these things with people(I'm a natural debater type) I just send them to your channel 👍
Everyone has preferences: - sexual characteristics - skin/hair/eyes color - thin/big/muscular/tall/small bodies - etc. Or can have no atttaction at all! Lack of attraction doesn't mean hate...
Im attracted to people I develope an emotional connection with. Its not quite the same as being attracted to a certain persononality type, but their positive actions are what I find attractive. If a person does a kickflip after saving a basket of puppies from a burning building, imma be crushing ngl 😂
I have to disagree on one point, and just based on my own experiences. You can definitely be sexually attracted to a person for their personality, such as someone that is not physically attractive but has an amazing personality. Just like you can lose your sexual attraction to a person because of their personality or a facet of it, such as discovering the ugly side of them, for example. I've had both things happen to me. The former with a guy who was overweight, pretty plain-looking but incredibly fun to talk to; I was not initially attracted to him sexually, but became so after spending some time with him. The latter with an older guy who I was sexually attracted to for their appearance and then saw what they were like when they got really angry - they were seriously unhinged. A person's personality, and 'aura' I guess (which has much to do with being self-confident but not narcissistic), can have incredible power to attract and repel sexually. I can honestly say that I wouldn't have an issue dating a trans person of either gender if I really liked their personality, we could have good conversation, and 'being trans' (or part of the movement) wasn't their entire world. Maybe it makes it easier that I'm bisexual, but for me if I find their personality really appealing I'd be down to be with them regardless of what they did or didn't have under their clothes.
Amen Marcus. The organic eggplant definitely needs to be in the picture. I'm an intersex gay man and for me to date/sleep with a trans man that would make me hetero. I've never been with a woman and I'm not about to start!
There are people who specifically want to date trans people. There are people who don’t. There are people who specifically want to date brunettes. There are people who don’t. Who you want to date is up to you, just don’t shit on other people for their choices.
So, love the video, BUT I do think people can be attracted to someone’s mind and personality regardless of any physical characteristics. I don’t care how “handsome” or “beautiful” someone is. I don’t usually even notice people until they make me laugh. Then, I can start to find them attractive. Before that, they might as well be an eggplant or whatever the female version of an eggplant is. 😂
Loving someone's mind and personality isn't the same as sexual attraction, though. I mean, if you're sexually interested in someone you should love their mind and personality, but the reverse isn't always true. We've all known children with beautiful souls and personalities, for instance. Not all appreciation of other people has to involve sex.
No, stupid. That's not how sexual orientation works for most people, who are either exclusively straight or gay. A straight man will never date a trans "woman" , cuz that would be a homsexual encounter. A gay man will never date a trans "man" cuz that would be a heterosexual encounter.
I'm pretty sure if you stepped back and considered the people you dated, you'd find that they have a lot of common physical characteristics. Finding someone attractive, and someone considered conventionally beautiful are two very separate things. The point is, your partners may not be particularly handsome to the general population or they wouldn't be cast as a model, but they are (hopefully...) physically attractive TO YOU
So you're a normal person who is bisexual? Cause there is nothing special about been attracted to a person's mind or personality. It's actually very normal, so long as the personality is in a body we can accept. I've never understood why people act as though attraction to a personality is unusual or special . Do you really that isn't how most relationships work? That's kinda daft
I am so glad that I am in a long term relationship (more then a decade). I don't want to date ANYONE else. I find the question, and the anticipated call out of transphobe, to be intentionally provocative and deceitful. Is it, would you date .. or would you have $3x with a transgender .. there is always a distinction in my mind ... would i go out to coffee? yes .. would i be interested in a physical relationship? Not so much. But why on earth would anyone want to have a relationship with someone that is being forced into it for fear of being labeled and canceled?
I did my Masters degree with people who were quite a bit younger than me. I'm pansexual and one girl could not understand why I didn't just call myself "bisexual". I explained to her that just because someone identifies as bisexual, doesnt mean they are open to or comfortable dating trans people, therefore the term pansexual distinguishes those who are. She said "well thats just transphobic". 🙄 Theres a whole sexual orientation that is used to describe people who are specifically open to dating trans people, and she still found something offensive about it.
That last bit has been confusing me a lot lately. These folks keep trying to change the definition of bi when pan is already a thing and has been for a bit. I think keeping the terms separate makes much better sense. It lets the other person know what they're getting into if they want to date you.
I have been watching heaps of your videos since finding you a week ago. Thankyou so much for all you are doing for us. Being a genuine Transexual woman for 35 years now has become a mine field these days because of these unbalanced activists. I am honest and open about my past when needed but I have basically gone back in the closet for safety reasons because of these trans activists extremists. I appreciate what your are doing to help us and educate vulnerable children and those out there who have been scared and confused by these tiktok trans trender anarchists.. Sending love and thanks from Australia. You are so wise beyond your years. I am considered a Dino Tranny with old fashioned views by some in my community. Tbh I avoid the community now. Much love from me. Keep up the good work. ❤
So like to me. You can be attracted to someone personality. And thats just called emotional attraction. Maybe there looks can catch u but sometimes they dont got looks. But love how they are as person. I love watching your vids. But its kinda wired to say u cant be attracted to someone personality
So if the personality has you than you would have sex with a 600 pound person? Everything that comes with 600 pounds would not have any effect on your choosing to have sex and get with them in a sexual relationship?
What all these people seem to miss is that even as a heterosexual biological woman, I am not even attracted to every biological man I meet. My point is that as you say Marcus, "people are attracted to whoever they're attracted to" ... no explanation or excuse is needed.
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We went from "being gay isn't a choice" to "having genital preferences makes you a bigot" real quick.
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You'll have Riley "Horse-Faced" Dennis to thank for that turd nugget of idiocy.
It was inevitable. They move the needle one tick at a time. Tick 1 is accepting gay people, tick 2 is manipulating straight people.
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Yes indeed. I will just have to be a bigot because I don't want a punishment on me or in my line of sight if sex is about to happen. Definitely a turn off.
With all due respect, I will not and won't ever call these surgical wounds "vaginas". A vagina is self cleansing reproductive organ that is so much more than just a *bonus hole*
It's just insulting how they think a literal slit or hole is basically a vagina like... No.
Or that poop shoot lining can be used to make a vagina. That’s like taking a piece of lung and putting it where your kidney should be, and calling it a “neo kidney”. No.
They made themselves a bonus hole lls
IKR?! Calling an open wound between your legs a vagina is like calling a bullet hole in your head an "extra ear". One actually has a biological function, one is just there to look the part. It might look similar, but that's where the similarities begin and end, emphasis on the "might".
As a trans guy with an OEM vagina, you're absolutely right. "Neovaginas" are surgical wounds that must be dilated so that they don't heal up. They don't self lubricate and there's no possible way the textures inside are the same. I can't imagine a straight guy wanting any part of that. I don't think stating reality makes me a bigot, either. I'm not a real man any more than they are real women.
Omg yes. The bonus hole thing is so wrong. I’m just going start calling it a baby 🛝.
The fact that you understand the insult and undermining of black women's womenhood by comparing us to transwomen has earned you a subscribe from me.👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@@ls-l1518how is she racist?? that person comparing black women to trans women is the real racist
Yeah im not sure why comparing things to black people is the default. Its never asian or mexican or any other race or ethnicity. Its always black. Please leave us out of your arguments.
@ls-l1518 it has everything to do with it, you idiot. Liberals comparing black women to transwomen and using us as examples to validate the "womanhood" of transwoman not only invalidates the womanhood of black women, but also shows how much the liberals so called equality and acceptance mindset is an insincere facade for morality points.🙄
They aren't comparing black woman to being trans in the situation but being black to being LGBTQ. The LGBTQ has compared themselves to being black since they took over the civil rights movement our ancestors fought and died for. I've heard black and white men day they'd date a trans woman before they'd date a girl with no butt or a fat girl...I'm like make it make sense. I've just realized the Y chromosome hates us.
@@lostinmyimagination7485well Mexican isn't a race nor is Latino or Hispanic but I get what your saying.
"How can you say you don't like it, if you haven't tried it?"
My sexual orientation is not a debatable matter.
Same!
Besides. Its the same sexist thing men say to lesbians "maybe you havent tried the right dick yet"
Nah, apparently it's actually a vegetable you never liked the look of to these people
"If you don't want to sleep with me you are a bad person"
What a horrible message to send in to the world, no matter who says it! 😟
Actual rape-culture... >_>
when bio males say this, they're destroyed with words and humiliated (as they should), but when it's a male in a dress suddenly everybody needs to accommodate his needs. nobody is entitled to nobody's body and sex activities. not that hard to understand.
Agrees. Like who do you think you are to try to bully me into dating you. Because not only will I not date you but, you lost my potential friendship as well and if you make a big scene I will call the cops.
It sends the most r*pey vibes too like no
@@larissakelly4711 Exactly.
They should go around asking gay people if they would sleep with the opposite sex. And then call them heterophobic if they say no.
Good plan 👍
Absolutely this shit show is stupid
It would be equal if they asked gay men would you date or have sex with a trans guy.
Personally I would if he was handsome enough and passed in every other way.
There is no shortage of people who want to f*ck Trans people; the problem is that too many of them are ashamed of their attraction and will treat you like a dirty little secret.
@@Samuel115s and you would be OK with the fact that they have a vagina and not a penis? Like you would be sexually attracted to their genitals
Transitioned 9 years ago and never had a problem finding dates (from men or women) UNTIL this creepy "date us or you're transphobic" narrative started being pushed.
Blow that transphobic out your ass ... You'll use that word so easily how about your homophobic fool... Shut up
That's sad that it's affecting things for you...these extremists seem to be ruining it for "normal" trans folk. I think it boils down to people don't like being told what to do, who to like & how to live their lives - none of us like that. I can definitely see why you have no problem finding dates - you're very attractive & like Marcus seem to get it. I'd defs date you...I might not be your type tho & that's ok ;) Just subscribed to your channel as well to hear some more sensible on this issue :)
God that sucks. I’m so sorry :(
@@gigicolada I appreciate the sympathy - I'm not trying to be a victim though. I currently have a partner and am in a wonderful relationship. I'm more commenting on the general shift among the dating world towards viewing trans (especially trans women who are attracted to other women) being an immediate red flag for creepy person. Ironically the incel energy being put out by trans women becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy because who would want to date a group of people giving off those vibes?
@@dr-ozone that makes sense and I’m glad you are happy and thriving! It sucks the few are ruining it for the many.
"Would you ever date a trans person?" - No. As a gay man I would only date a man. And a trans women is most certainly not on my menu, nor a trans man.
100% agree.
But a trans man is a man lol
@@Bibirallie*a trans man is a trans man
I totally get that and it makes total sense.
My preference is way more confusing. I'm bisexual. I would date a trans man, but not a trans woman and it's honestly kinda hard to explain my reasoning. I just go w it. No point in over-analyzing. I've been called a bigot bc of it but like...I honestly don't care that much. Whatever.
@@angelaa1611I feel the same exact way.
Sexual attraction is basically a fragile fantasy, sometime even the wrong HAIRCUT could totally throw people off, let alone sexual alteration. Nobody is obligated to be attracted to anybody. Find the one that want you, and leave others be.
Marcus, thank you for being one of the only sane people on the internet 😭
Your not sane if you think your something your not.
There's no such thing as a man with a slit, it's just a titless woman
He really is. He's just so damn logical. I love it. Can always count on Marcus to be the voice of reason in all things trans. Even Blaire and Buck aren't as grounded as Marcus is.
Ditto
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Marcus DOES seem like a genuinely nice, decent person... but sorry (and I suspect Marcus probly AGREES with me); Destroying a 100% healthy reproductive system, sexual function, etc. The ONE healthy body she'll ever have, in pursuit of superfically imitating something she can't EVER actually be, is definitionally NOT "sane".
I respect that, as a consenting adult, Marcus has the RIGHT to harm her own body this way, for ANY reason the individual chooses, good OR bad...
...but we got INTO this mess, by prioritizing peoples' feelings, over simple, evidence-based TRUTH...
(I don't use sex-correct pronouns to be rude to Marcus, who I DO genuinely respect, despite any ideological differences. Marcus DOES seem like a very principled, decent person... I just ALWAYS use correct, evidence-based pronouns, because EVIDENCE-BASED TRUTH MATTERS, and I don't believe you should EVER compromise on truth...
And because I don't believe in the 100% evidence-free concept, of sex-independent """gender""'; I accept that OTHERS can have whatever faith-based, evidence-free religious beliefs they want... Just don't demand for ME to pretend to believe them...)
"Would you date a black person" is not an equivalent question. "Would you date a white woman in blackface" is closer 😅
Lmao
You fixed the analogy, good work!
I wonder if that dude would accept Martina Big as a black woman. Somehow I don’t think so.
Also the funniest thing is... even if we're gonna go down that idiotic arguement when it comes down to it you are fully within your rights to say you wouldn't date a black woman, it wouldn't even be racist because consent is the thing that matters. Like you are 100% justified when denying your consent for ANY reason even if that reason is no reason at all.
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I don't get this argument for a few reasons. 1. why try to force someone to be attracted to you when they simply aren't? Someone will be. find them. 2. why the double standard? If a man went up to a lesbian and said "well I have a great personality" he would be ripped to shreds. Same if a lesbian went up to a straight girl. It's just that simple. Trans man is not synonymous with man, same with women. I'm so tired of our community trying to be normalized when we Are Not normal. Just accept that you are different and move on.
one of the thing i saw a few months ago was a stupid tiktok where some wierdo said if you transition and you partner needs time to think about it then leave, like yeah it depends on the personallities but i said it before some of these trans relationships are straight couples identifying as trans
@@dollface2907 Whaaaaat??? That’s so selfish and narcissistic. If you’re transitioning while in a relationship, your partner is losing something that they were attached to… How can you blame them even when they’re taking it well? Such a cruel thing to say about the person you’re supposed to love more than anyone else in your life.
@callum4135 Any trans-person who behaves like that is just being true to their one-&-only true-love, themselves!
Transbians are no better than the men of the past who correctively raped lesbians. They just hate that we know they're rapey men who can never be women and that's why they hate us.
There is no shortage of people who want to f*ck Trans people; the problem is that too many of them are ashamed of their attraction and will treat you like a dirty little secret.
As a black woman I'm so sick of us being used in the trans argument! that's so racist. Are black women a different kind of human?
One of my issues with this whole thing is the assumption that everyone is promiscuous: the whole “but have you TRIED it?” mentality and the expectation that it’s all about having sex willy-nilly rather than looking for a life partner. In a life partner, you’re looking at many factors such as shared values. Many people don’t want to date someone if they already know that person isn’t a life partner candidate for any number of reasons. This insistence from extremists that everyone must be open to dating every type of person on earth is ridiculous, selfish, childish and ignorant.
And who the heck wants to date someone they had to beg to go out with them?!
It really disgusts me how these people treat sex like holding hands, just doing it with anyone without any consideration, I'm 22 and virgin not because of religion but because I just don't feel like throwing myself at the first guy that treats me well
@@naty8646 Exactly! I’ll be friends with pretty much anyone as long as they’re not mean and disrespectful. But choosing a partner is a lot deeper than that. You should be allowed to implement whatever dealbreakers make sense for you.
Right? I'm not even remotely promiscuous I find that icky. @@naty8646
I lived 6 years as a trans man before detranstioning.
I would not date a trans person.
Ive been around the community and ive seen & experienced the egotistical & narcissistic behavior.
Most Detransitioners seem to be narcissists.
They transitioned for attention; not because of Gender Dysphoria.
Unless the trans person who thinks like Marcus or Blaire, then I will NOT date one because of that very reason. I'm bi, so I don't really care about genitals. What I do care about is how people act. Half the "community" is very.... insane.
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I’m a Trans woman and I agree with you.
However, the problem with Marcus and Blaire is that they give raging Transphobes more ammo and point them in the direction of a less fortunate Trans person, just to save their own ass.
It’s kinda embarrassing how long it took me to realize this.
@Celephinn true. While there are actual transphobes, you can't blame Marcus for attracting transphobe. That's like blaming a kid for attracting terrible adults from liking them. Everyone makes their own choices. Marcus is not extreme in any of the views. Very down to reality
@@CelephinnThe ones who are giving "raging transphobes ammunition" are the entitled, aggressive, misogynistic and violent members of your own community who counter every disagreement with threats of cancellation, rape or violence.
All these people dictating who and what you should be attracted to need to stop it. It's not your sexuality, it's somebody else's. Just because some people can do it, doesn't mean everybody can do it or should be guilted into it. Stop acting like "sexuality police".
They want to redefine weird and police language and thoughts. This world is crazy.
it isn’t just about attraction either. Trans people tend to be infertile and you couldn’t start a family with them unless they didn’t have bottom surgery.
@@gothica3605and even still taking hormones opposite to their sex can leave them infertile even without bottom surgery
@@gothica3605and you would still need a man and a woman
I don’t even mind when people say they would never date people of certain races. That doesn’t offend me at all. If you’re not attracted to black people, it’s not the same as hating them or thinking they are lesser than. It just means you don’t find them attractive and that’s fine. My husband is white. My mom doesn’t find white men attractive. Like she can look at a white man and say if he is handsome or not, but she just never felt sexually attracted to one.
Let's not treat it as the same, though. A preference or a type is not the same as a sexual orientation.
Yep, I have a strong preference for white men and am married to one. I've never been attracted to black men or brown men but that doesn't mean I think they're all just unattractive. They just aren't my type.
@@rebeccahicks2392doesn't matter since the bottom line is no one has to date anyone they don't want to, whether that's due to physical preferences or sexual orientation or whatever else.
@@JessG_20 Yes. The person trying to make that point sounded idiotic. Because it’s OK if you’re not attracted to trans people, just like it’s OK to not be attracted to short people, tall people, skinny people, fat, white, black, Asian, Latino, etc. I’ve never found a trans man attractive until Markus 😁
Exactly, like I know that I'm not attracted to women, but I still can compliment and acknowledge when I see a woman who is attractive. Doesn't mean I want to date her, but I can still appreciate her beauty. (This is the same for any race or ethnicity)
Just because you're not attracted to X type of person doesn't mean you hate them or see them as less than human. People can have "preferences" in height, weight, hair and eye color, skin tone, whatever. It's not right to shame someone for not being attracted to you for any reason.
But the ‘problem’ with the coercive ones is, that you don’t see them as they see themselves..
Exactly, if I’m not attracted to women that doesn’t mean I don’t want to be best friends with one
People like Marcus are very easy to accept, he doesn't make his entire life about his identity. He doesn't push and he speaks out about the wrongs in his community. You have my support and I think you're doing a great job ❤
Another tjing which should be easy to accept : being a woman/man is not an identity. The difference is literally embedded in your DNA . Marcus is a woman.
I would not say no to dating a trans person who did not have a bottom surgery (I'm bisexual and yup, want that organic genitalia 🤣), it's not a deal breaker for me.
but what is a deal breaker for me is when someone thinks they are entitled to you because they are trans and that you are transphobic for not wanting to date them due to this. and I know bisexuals like me get a lot of heat because 'why do you care, you are attracted to both men and women', and this is super wrong.
Yeah, that's totally not how that works, right? I've known I was bi-sexual since kindergarten, but the body types I'm attracted to would exclude trans-people.
I like extremely manly-men aka great big brutes with natural...ahem...eggplants, and pretty girls my own size and shape (petite) with real breasts and "apple blossoms" (I don't know what the young people call it online)...or that's how it was when I was younger and my husband and wife were still alive. We made a happy thrupple for many years back in the days when you had to hide relationships like ours so that you didn't get the kids taken away.
I am bisexual like you but. I am not attracted to trans people. Either you are a man or a woman and I want you in your natural body form. That is my preference and I won't change it
@@pagangrandma9218why did the thought of your happy thruple make me a bit teary? It is so rare to find joy and harmony with other humans and you were a joyful 3!!! What a blessing!!!! 💛 I am sorry for your loss and hope you have some joy, love and peace in your life. ❤️
That would be why the term ‘PANsexual’ was invented. Bi is bi = 2: man or woman. Both including the combo’s are Pan. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but being accurate helps prevent the ‘you should be attracted’ bs. I found out my man was an autogynephile when we lived together, and he really had no idea what the problem was, me being bi and all. Well I wasn’t pan, and really didn’t like to be deceived with something that important 🤷🏻♀️
Had a former friend who hadn’t had phalloplasty yet, but insisted I sleep with her. I was married at the time, still am, but that didn’t matter to this creep. I’m intentionally misgendering her for what she tried to do to me.
Her logic was that me being a “cisgender” woman meant that she didn’t have to ask for consent. So she pulled me close in the pool and tried to get under my swimsuit when my husband was in the bathroom. I cried. He came out and dove in to separate us. We left pretty quickly after that and ghosted her. She was a monster.
I always felt like it’d be like saying that it’s homophobic not to want to date the same sex
No. It’s your preference. You choose who you want to love.
That’s exactly what it’s like.
It's not entirely the same. In these mind of these lunatics, not wanting to date someone because they're trans means that you're not accepting them as their gender (because if you did, you wouldn't make it a dealbreaker), and therefore you are transphobic, and therefore you're complicit in some coming genocide of transpeople or some similar shit (all this doesn't play a role if you don't want to date the same sex).
No, it’s homophobic when you say that lezzies should like and play with your eggplant
they are trying to enforce a form of conversion therapy - lesbians and straight men must now accept and desire p*nis.
I’m transsexual had my bottom surgery and I perfectly understand people don’t want to date me and doesn’t offend me at all!! I didn’t transition to date people.. I did it to feel good, that’s it.. I always say to people if they think of transitioning to be, first of all, ok to accept solitude and then think of the rest..
You are not "trans sexual"
A mutilated genitalia+sterilization did not make you into the opposite sex. You merely cosplay them.
I don’t think there is enough emphasis that transitioning is going to be a deal breaker for a lot of people. Anything less than acceptance is framed as bigotry and telling that person they are a victim. There is NO way that is good for someone’s mental health.
It sounds like your choices were right for you and you are in a good place. I wish that could be said about more trans people.
I'd just tell other t girls don't give up because life is lonely as hell without a partner friends are cool and so is family but it isn't the same I don't see how asexual people live but then again I'm not them and that a good reason why.
@@QueenMali420 if you are not transsexual, you cannot understand the solitude we face.. even if solitude is part of human’s life, we all live in a straight world that makes it harder cfor us..
@@kenzi.h I'm a transexual woman and I'm engaged life for me would always be missing a piece if I weren't already taken, I've tried being single and I just can't go more than one year it's just become to lonely and your Also asexual right I was saying I can't understand asexual people not trans people trans men are just us with a different spin on the experience since they're XX men and all.
Im honestly baffled by the whole "date trans or your transphobic." So much time was spent saying that you cant control what you are attracted to, now im told to change what Im attracted to, or being asked how I felt if my boundaries were violated. Its... baffling.
I had a male partner who claimed to have gender confusion, and he wasn’t sure if he was trans or what. At the time, I was drinking a ton of social-justice kool-aid and I thought I had to tolerate whatever gender he was to be a good person. Long story short, he ended up cheating on me with multiple people. I was very young and uneducated at the time, but in the past few years (thanks to you, Arielle, and Blaire) I’ve learned a lot about gender identity, fetishes, agp, etc. I’ve come to terms with my past relationship and I believe he was either an agp or had a fetish for pre-op trans women. All that being said, after that experience and the trauma I experienced - I would definitely not date a trans person. I just can’t bring myself to deal with that trauma again. I have friends who are trans and I love them dearly. But I can’t do the romantic thing again.
1st rule for every relationship in your life: honesty.
Agreed 💯
I don’t have an issue with dating someone who is trans and I can understand why someone may have an issue dating someone who is trans but we are not allowed to talk about it or agree with individuals like Marcus Blare and Buck
I think many people would agree, that if they find a person and they happen to be whoever they are then love is love. I think the problem comes in when this ideology tries to make a generalized presupposition to a specific personal choice. Everyone should decide for THEMSELVES! Stop trying to make my choice for me! Some people love to tell others what to do. In this case, I am definitely pro-choice.
exactly. Imagine criticizing a lesbian who has dated trans men, that they should have no problem dating a biological man since they are now bi sexual and if she felt uncomfortable dating one, she ignorant XDXD
I'm not into dating a trans individual. It simply wouldn't work between me and a transwoman for example because I'm physically attracted to the male physique, but not to the female gender.
I have trans friends of course. My dating/sexual preferences don't include that however.
It reminds me of the stupid thing some very egotistical guys with a big sense of entitlement used to do years ago at girls. They were so full of themselves that if a girl was not attracted to them and/or simply was not interested in dating at all at the time, then she must be a lesbian. They'd get so taken aback and be like, "Wut? You lesbian or something?"
I will add to that that I think it is possible to be attracted to somones personality. I just can't look at someone and think "I would sleep with that person, they're attractive". I first have to get to know them to start dating. I always dated only someone who previously was at least my friend. I simply can't do it any other way.
Also I dated many diffrent kinds of people. When I was young I was thinking that I was into tall guys, but then started dating my friend who was max 165cm and I was attracted to him.
I was thinking that when it comes to women I was into pettite girls. But I fell in love with a tall and overweight gal (she was my BEST friend first).
I was always thinking that I can never be attracted to bald person. But my husband started balding and he shaved his head... and I was still attracted to him. At the top of that I always found only thin/skinny men visually pleasing and my husband wanted to start exercising. He got bulky and I was still attracted to him. I always found full beard not visually pleasing. But my husband wanted to try getting a full, long beard. From someone I founded visually pleasing - a skinny man with head full of hair and only a small mustache and small goatee he became someone who I would consider ugly if I wouldn't know them. But I was and am still attracted to that one "ugly" man who is my husband.
If he became woman I would still be attracted to him (we tested some app and oh boy... he would be really pretty girl). If he somehow became short I would still be attracted to him.
To me not being attracted to him he would have to change his personality. And only that would make me find him really ugly (even if he would physically be the men he was when we first met).
I was with someone who was really really visually pleasing to me. When we were best friends I could stare at him and I would listen to his voice mails over and over again (at that time I found his voice really sexy). But his personality turned out to be not what he was presenting to me when we where friends. And immediately he became really ugly in my eyes. I just could not find him attractive anymore even if I tried. His voice became something I can't stand.
And it's not like he hurt me and that's why his attractivness dropped in my eyes. When we started to live together he became trully him and I coudn't stand that parts of his personality that I weren't aware of until we lived with each other over a year. It was nothing hurtful, just the opposite of personality traits I found... attractive. I still think he was and is a good man. I think he found a woman who wasn't botherd by his personality traits that I couldn't stand. And I'm happy for that. But I can't find him attractive anymore. Not when I know this side of him.
I am someone who is attracted to personality or "brain". And this is just the way I am. I can do nothing about it.
You have restored my faith in humanity lol It's good to see sane lgbt people. Love your content
Thank you for acknowledging how some people make it seem like black women are a totally separate category.
i’m a republican but am still very live and let live. However it gets to a point where you just can’t ignore how absurd some of these people are on both sides. it’s really sad that people just can’t live in peace with different opinions.
Leftists: Everything is phobic
Rightwing: Everything is Woke Agenda.
So damn tiring.
No one is ever going to bully me into dating/having sex with them.
There is also the fact that about half of these neo-ginas are made out of colon and smell like colon.
For those not familiar with medical terms... It's made of butthole, and smells like poop. xD
Seriously?
@@JF-gy7tt He's 100% serious. Neo-vaginas are disgusting. :S
@@JF-gy7tt yes ma'am.
I made that experience and it's exactly as gross as it sounds. I wonder why I didn't just get up and flee the scene 😔
Hi Marcus, I can't thank you enough for having created this channel. My perception on trans people have been always given to me by cultural prejudices and main media. Fortunately that has changed today. I learned a lot from people worldwide. I even subtitled one of your videos so my partner and daughter can enjoy it better and comment on it together (we speak spanish). Thank you for producing this content.
One perception should be obvious : no one is trans. Or can you, was Marcus able to swith her female sex chromosomes/organs?
Thanks for addressing the constant comparison between Black women and trans women. Not that there’s anything wrong with comparison but Black women and intersex folks always get brought up in trans women discussions, unprovoked.
Oh, there is a lot wrong with comparing Black women to trans women. It's coming from a disgusting racist and misogynistic point of view of these people that says Black women are the same as men pretending to be women.
A better comparison to trans women would be "white women in blackface"
Some black women are definitely more masculine than me, an Asian trans woman ☺️
How embarrassing for you.@@jayrose4748
The trouble is I've seen so many videos about how these surgical interventions continue to try and heal themselves, as the body is meant to, I can't imagine the discomfort.
as a straight transexual male, im fully aware that most women wouldn't want to date me, and thats completely okay. me not being biologically male is a big turn off for a lot of women and i get it lol. so i would never be offended by their preference. it is what it is and at the end of the day you like what you like so it doesn't matter much to me. not sure why so many people get so pressed over preferences. if you dont like dick you dont like dick (and vice versa), its as simple as that. 🤷🏽
I thought s3x and gender are different why do y'all have to be so confusing?! 😩 If you're not bio male, you should call yourself trans MAN, trans identified males means a trans woman. That's how all of social media uses the words can you please just go along with that instead of stealing ANOTHER word?!
Just curious do most girls reject you for being trans?
It's taking the long way around to lesbian. Biological female taking male hormones, maybe some surgery to pass as male, doesn't make them male. If their dating another female it's female homosexuality undercover. Lol. As long as their happy who cares but it's not heterSEXual.
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There is a lid for every pot. You'll find someone for sure
You are super mature and I’m thankful that you’re speaking out against this! ❤ Hope you have a good day!
exactly. Imagine criticizing a lesbian who has dated trans men, that they should have no problem dating a biological man since they are now bi sexual and if she felt uncomfortable dating one, she ignorant XDXD
I find this whole thing so disconcerting. The typical end goal of dating is to find a potential partner to spend the rest of your life with. Folks can be as choosy as they darn well want to. I'd much rather be with someone who likes me for me from the get go than someone who I guilted into dating me and becomes resentful later. There's billions of people in the world. Stop obsessing over folks who aren't interested and focus on finding the ones that are.
I loved the "I need the eggplant in the picture, (...) I need the ORGANIC eggplant" freaking hilarious 😂😂😂
I would not date someone who is trans because I am only attracted to someone who has the sexual characteristics of a woman and I would be weirder out by an artificial lady part.
I wouldn't even date a skinny girl because I prefer someone with more curves to them. At the same time I don't care if you're into trans women, everyone had their own personal preference and that's fine. It's not fine to attack people for their preferences
That’s how my brother is, not too skinny and not too tall. Anything other than that is too masculine to him 🤷🏽♀️
Freaking “preferences,”… so we’re back to that old game in the timeline
The new attack is your biological sexuality and your associations with individuals through life which will create attractions through life of who you’re interested in and who you’re not - and NOW, all of a sudden, it's wrong and a “PHOBIA” because you don’t want to date or sleep with someone….
Like many “preferences” are based on, your biological sexual orientation also associations with others throughout your life experiences, so it’s a combination of nature AND nurture - NOT nature versus nurture.
…AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO STOP SAYING “GENITAL PREFERENCES” - IT MAKES YOU SOUND LIKE A WEIRDO!!!
genital preference is for bisexuals, as they can tend to prefer one over the other.
I randomly had a Twitter discussion with a man who dates transgender women. He said he does it so his family doesn't bother him. Yes the family supposedly doesn't know. But he still gets to experience gay sex. I'm straight and married. But this guy on Twitter, I told him his family knew . They are just being polite.
Why does his family bother him for dating trans women
4:27 As a black woman, I agree with you.
I think we as woman are so forgiving that we can actually fall inlove with a personality and not just the outside. That's why you see so many odd pairings. Speaking from my own experience, I've been in relationships were I was not initially attracted to the person, but they won me over with how they good they treated me and how nice of a person they were in general.
That "forgiveness" of the appereance is even more prevalent in the lesbian community, which is precisely the reason why all these guys have attempted to infiltrate that world. It's the Chris-chan effect: if you can't get dates as guy, pretend to be a woman to coherce lesbians into liking you. It's disgusting.
That being said, most of these trans people who want to force you into dating them don't even have a personality to begin with. It's all a power fantasy to them. They don't even want to date among themselves, and that's very telling.
Thank you for pointing this out, I love Marcus but had a bit of a problem with his point on not being attracted to a personality.
I don't really get along with people so granted, all of my examples of attraction are based on fictional characters lol. But almost all of my "fictional crushes" I kind of hated at first.
Took me a year of playing the game or whatever first before I seriously loved them, I needed to see their personalities. The way they act, stuff they say, how they treat other characters, their likes and dislikes etc. None of them are conventionally attractive. Some of them made me realize appearance doesn't matter as much as I thought it did. Example: I never liked long hair on a guy and didn't think I'd ever like any amount of pudginess. But one of my "crushes" has long hair and a belly, and I think he's thoroughly adorable.
That being said, no I wouldn't date a trans person lol. Sexual attraction doesn't have to be one or the other, it can be both sex and personality based. I can love a female's personality: that makes her my friend not my partner because I'm not into women. But life has proven to me time and time again that I'm incapable of being attracted to appearance without personality. Show me some stereotypical "hot guy" with abs. It does nothing for me. Show me an "ugly" guy who's personality I adore and he's the most handsome man alive.
Its just 100% creep behavior to think that you're entitled to anyone's attention, time, and intimacy.
Man, not only do i wish the woke crowd understood that, but i also wish corporations understood that. xD
@@MyouKyuubi Eh, corporations don't care, they only want money
@@Dinosaur315 is that why they're losing billions trying to push woke proaganda? xD
So, in the past I found that I needed to get to know someone before becoming attracted to them. If I'm attracted to a personality I start to find random physical traits about the person attractive. I think in a scenario I was single I would date a trans man if I happened to fall for their personality.
However, I am a mother and I have always wanted children, and the want to have children in this scenario would sadly deter me from pursuing a trans person unless I really liked them. It's unfair but it's truthful.
"If I'm attracted to a personality I start to find random physical traits about the person attractive." I'm the same way but they would lump us in a box and call us demisexual
@@ItsSimplyAless exactly! When I was part of that crowd it was like you said, demisexual and demiromantic. The label describes how I am but it's not a sexuality 😂
@@203azzopardi9 or some people say we’re just normal and society is hypersexual haha 😅
@@ItsSimplyAless you're not wrong! 😅
@ItsSimplyAless EXACTLY. I find someone physically attractive when I'm emotionally involved, even if technically they aren't seen as attractive. They are to me... I feel like that's normal, not another sexually
"You can't be attracted to someone's personality", why wouldn't I be surprised if they already have a gender for that?
It’s not a gender, but the term for the “romantic” interest in someone based on their personality is encephalaroace. Don’t ask how I know. 😅
Some people identify as sapiosexuals, meaning they're attracted to a person's intelligence and intellectualism, rather than gender or biological sex.
They have a "sexuality" for it: "Demisexuality is a sexual orientation in which a person feels sexually attracted to someone only after they've developed a close emotional bond with them."
No doubt they have a whole bunch of other words with identical meaning to this... Just like with "Pansexual" which is just a fancy new word for "Bisexual", lmao.
not a gender, but a sexuality already exists: pansexuality. the woke says bisexuals feel attraction towards bio women and men (and genitals, and binary sex etc.), while pansexuals feel attraction towards personalities, not body parts as if it's something mystical and better in pans while bis are a bunch of transphobes and outdated. pansexuals actually feel superior to bisexuals because of this. that's why none of them identify as bisexuals, but pansexuals, omnisexuals, polysexuals and more.
@@MyouKyuubi Demisexuality just needs an emotional connection, and that doesn't have to be based on their personality. You can have nothing in common with someone and still develop a bond by, say, spending a lot of time with them at school or in the workplace. And you can be strongly attracted to someone's personality without having had the time to develop an emotional bond with them. And pansexual means being attracted to all genders, whereas bisexual can mean only attracted to, for example, men and transmen but not anyone feminine-presenting.
Open the bothers me the most about every time these people bring this up is they throw consent out of the window when it comes to this.
Wow Marcus. Look at you!!!! I feel like a proud mama bear. Been here since the almost very beginning and seeing how your channel has grown and how YOU have grown... Aw man... Just so happy for you!!!!! Bravo babe, bravo!!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👊👊👊 ❤❤❤
Loving your videos dude. Mad respect.
I can be attracted to personality, my first boyfriend wasnt attractive but he was so funny that it was dangerous 🤣 it xan happen
Nothing more unattractive then deceit.
This is the first comment ive ever left to youre channel, although ive watched a lot of youre content. Thank you. For always being honest. Honest about youre thoughts and feeling, and how you view the world. It means a lot.
Greeting from Finland.❤
What is respect? Not lying to a person is a great start!
I would definitely date a trans-person.
If that person would be Marcus! 💜
If jokes aside - thank you for another great video!
Stay safe 😌
Surely they could tell the difference between a surgical v compared to biological female v
You cannot convince me that there is no difference....and no, I don't want to know for sure 😁
Came here to say the same thing.
It's obvious from first glance.
The axe wounds don’t really work very well...
I personally have dated two trans men in my life thus far. Each time is pre_transition. After my second trans partner transitioned, I started losing sexual interest. I was attracted to them as a person but the anatomy wasn't adding up in my head. I think I've come to figure out that I prefer the appearance to match the genitalia. I see your perspective as my own and you speak my concealed thoughts, so I'm more than happy to be one of your newest subs 💪🏽
next step in this, will be people using this logic when actually having s*x. Like, if the man I'm going to be with is into hardcore BDSM and tying me up, something that I simply can't handle due to trauma, and he's saying that I'm kinkshaming him because I won't do it... using this logic is nothing less than emotional manipulation and blackmail. "If you don't do this or that, then you are hateful"
I would never date a trans person I haven’t tried it and I really don’t want too there’s nothing wrong with that no matter how much they pass or if they have the bottom surgery because it don’t work the same way I want to have kids one day and even if I didn’t it’s still not the same
While I agree with you, keep in mind that fertility issues can affect anyone. Even yourself.
@@glykera That argument is silly. Most couples don't find out about fertility issues until married and actively trying to get pregnant so it would still be a deal breaker at first if known. Many couples adapt and find other means but that is often out of necessity. It's a whole other situation going into the relationship knowing they will never go through a pregnancy together.
90 % of what I am attracted to is personality. I only date smart, witty, sensitive men. Their looks are secondary. I dated my husband for a long time before I found him attractive physically. After tgat, I fell in love so hard, because I fell for his personality first.
"I only date smart, witty, sensitive men."
Hmm... I'm curious about what you mean by "sensitive"... Because a sensitive man is a man that is sensitive to stuff, so... A man that emotionally overreacts to stuff all the time? That doesn't seem right... But hey, i'm not kinkshaming. xD
Or, do you mean "attentive"?
Or, do you mean "empathic"?
@@MyouKyuubi I mean a nice guy.
@@jenniferscott375 ... I have even more questions now... xD
@@MyouKyuubi i don't know if it's because english isn't my first language, but what you understood as "sensitive" i understand as "emotional." an emotional person (for me and my language) is someone who overreacts and let their emotions completely control them, while sensitive people are empathetic, nice and in touch with their feelings but not in a insufferable way. i think that's the way op was thinking.
@@gablinhuman Well, i was hoping OP would answer it themselves, but instead they gave an answer that just raises more questions. xD
I’m bisexual and I would 10/10 days a trans person of either gender but I could NEVER justify telling someone who they should be attracted to
Black is always being used to compare to some other bs 🤦🏽♀️ it’s disgusting
To the guy who compared not dating trans people to not dating black people, I thought you’ve been trying to say this whole time that it’s not the same. Like you can’t identify as another race because you feel like it. Anyways, my response to him is no, there’s not a single person on the planet who’s identity is black but in reality are something else
(Rachel Dolezal) 👀
I would not date a trans person, but that does not mean that I can not appreciate how beautiful Blaire White is for instance or Marcus (handsome). Thank you again Marcus for being a voice of reason :)
No one is trans, unless they switched sex chromosomes/organs. Blaire is a male, Marcus is a woman.
Ahhh Marcus, you are hilarious and so wonderfully reasonable and sane❤
I just want to say, I love watching you, and listening to you, you make such common sense, which isn't so common these days.
My guy friend slept with both women & trans women. He said the vaginas are absolutely NOT the same. Also he said their scent still smells male, like the sweat & musk. He no longer dates transwomen.
I would think trans people have preferences too don't they?
I'm 66 now. I've found that what I find attractive has evolved over the years. And yes, for me at least, a lot of attraction has to do with the personality, the mind. I would encourage people to think of how they would feel if someone they loved and had deep attraction to was suddenly terribly injured and now totally different, physically. Would the developed love and attraction disappear? Or, might there be the ability to evolve what one can be attracted to? Think of men who lose their genitals in war -- they are the same men in many ways, but deeply injured. ... What about people who are terribly deformed by necessary surgeries (such as for cancers). Or, what about other things that can "disfigure" a person? Attractions and love can still happen. While a superficial first encounter might not have you finding them attractive, by getting to know the person they can *become* attractive to you when at other times you would not have thought it possible. Attractions at first glance are very different from what one can have once one knows the person.
Three things:
Yes, if people experience sudden and drastic changes to their appearance, it is common that attraction disappears. Remember the guy who was horribly disfigured in Iraq, and went on to marry his fiancée? They split up shortly after. That's OK. Physical attraction is important. That doesn't mean we all need to be supermodels, but you should find your partner physically attractive, and you are allowed to no longer find them physically attractive if they suddenly no longer look like themselves.
Secondly, what you're writing sounds very gaslighting. No, we don't need to work on ourselves to build up a physical attraction to someone. I've found people attractive who are not classically beautiful. That's normal. But I've never started to feel physically attracted to someone I didn't find attractive from the start. Trying to build a physical connection when there isn't one naturally is doomed to failure because you'll always remain susceptible to suddenly get very attracted to someone who is truly and naturally your type.
And thirdly, differing physical appearance is not the same as being trans. I find both men and women sexually attractive, but I would never date a transidentified male.
That's not a vagina. It's a wound...they don't look ANYTHING like ours and not telling your partner is rpe. Like not telling about an std.
Just came across your channel & Im really enjoying it! It’s so nice to see someone with common sense. You speak with such clarity 👏🏼
I’m glad to have found you on UA-cam. You make so much sense! Why can’t more people online be more like you? Thanks for bringing this discussion. I hope more people see it so more people might find better ways of thinking about real tans issues.
I sometimes feel like these videos are just a convoluted excuse to say “bUt bLAcK PeoPlE”, like just keep that shit out of your mouth. Quit dragging them into it, they have their own shit to deal with and, ultimately, it isn’t *exactly* the same thing… also, why do you so desperately want to date someone who DOESN’T WANT YOU? Why set yourself up for that humiliation and pain?? If someone doesn’t want to date me because they’re not attracted to indigenous girls, I don’t have any interest in putting in the time and effort to try and change their mind; I also don’t think it’s particularly racist, either, because most people’s attractions are very much based on what your own parents ans family look like, as much as we hate to think of it… but a white girl with a white mother who grew up around white people in a white neighborhood isnt likely to be attracted to my auper native features - and I’m not likely to be lusting after her, either, because I wasn’t socialized with her features in my aunties and teachers and such.
I went off the deep end there, but like… why is the first argument always dragging in black people - who did not ask to be there and are being RACISTLY used as a token. Come on now. Anywhoodle….
7:28 this is the thing that makes me crazy - like as a lesbian, the accepted terminology is that I PREFER females… no, it’s not that a prefer a female to a male. If I don’t have a partner, it’s not like men are ANYWHERE on the radar. Idk why we use “sexual preference” when we don’t mean preference - we mean “I like this, *not* that!”
Terminology aside, I am so sick of this almost like… Forcing it. People have genital “deal breakers”. Someone who’s not be attracted to thin people aren’t expected to just TRY ONE. Some folks are the opposite - not attracted to fat people. Okay. We’re not saying lesbians are misandrist for not “trying” some eggplant 🍆 and we don’t call gay men misogynistic if the don’t wish to practice polishing the pearl 🦪… why is it this *one* thing? And, yea… it’s starting to feel a bit rapey guys. Quit it.
Thanks, because I tired of people dragging us black people into stuff that we have nothing to do with.
@@BenishaMcFerrin Thank you for replying… I’m Kalispell and not black, so I’m not always sure that it’s my place to say that… but if I’m this fucking tired of it, I can’t imagine how frustrating it must be for you! It doesn’t matter WHAT people are talking about with regard to discrimination, the first thing out of these people’s mouths is ALWAYS “well would you ______ that to a black person??” It feels a little like the oppression Olympics, a lot like treating ALL black people as one monolith as though there is not a ton of diversity within the community, and it’s mostly just cringy and pedantic. Stop it. Fuckin white people. 😂😂😂
Dating has a function. We are interested in the other sex for reproduction and the continuation for our species. We're hardwired to do so. Those that fall outside that can date who they want, but there's a reason why I wouldn't want to date a trans woman. Frankly they should want to be with someone actually accepting of them rather than guilt tripped into it. What kind of relationship is that?
Sure but keep in mind please that not everyone wants or can procreate and thats ok!
@@wheatstonebridge Of course, my point was that we're biologically hardwired this way. If you're reproduction isn't working the way intended, then that doesn't mean that you don't get to live your life.
Everyone likes different flavors, if I choose to eat Chinese food it doesn’t mean I hate all other foods… it means I like Chinese!😂
I love the fact that once the gay movement made such strides to make us equal, and feminism finally saw that women are equal... a wave of neo-tran people came along and now s3xual orientation is based off gender, having a s3x preference is now a fetish and choice, and being a man/woman is portrayed as a stereotype/characature. We faught hard to be seen as more than a label, to break out of the boxes society wanted to force us in. Why are we now making more labels and shoving ourselves into boxes and demanding others do the same?
Only criticism of this video is you didn’t say ‘it means the world to me’ after the super thanks thing. I always say it with you at the end and it caught me off guard. Please bring it back. Love ❤
Marcus, you are such an intelligent breath of fresh air, and I love listening to you. I seriously wish there were more people out there who actually had logic and common sense like you do with these situations. I feel like we are so outnumbered by the idiotic and insane. Also, to answer your question, I would not date a trans person. I'm a straight, biological woman, who is attracted to biological men.
Marcus! You continue to prove logical, reasonable thought still exists. 🎉🎉 Rock on and all the best to you.
Here is how I see my personal taste. I am Hispanic yet I have ZERO attraction to Hispanic/ Latin men. I feel like I would be dating my cousin. 😂. With that being said, Latin men are of course attractive but I’m not attracted to them. And I have felt this way since I was a teenager. It’s been a long time. And it’s NOT going to change!
That’s how I feel about black men.
@@animationeditz5570It’s possible, as you can read. The familiarity can be a turn off to a lot of people and “otherness” is more appealing. As a Hispanic woman I wasn’t attracted to Hispanic men for the longest time, until very recently. They are still not my preference, especially ones who are of my particular culture, and like OP says it can feel like dating a relative.
THANK YOU!! I'm a Latina and feel exactly the same! I can't look at a Latino at all because they do remind me of my cousins too. I'm only attracted to White men, to the disgust of some of my family members. 😂
@@animationeditz5570i’m a black girl and not really physically attracted to my own race, i don’t know why but i’m just not interested
@@BenishaMcFerrin
This is how many black men feel about black women (much to the chagrin of many black women). Glad you understand our plight lol.
One major problem for all of these people that don't understand people not wanting to be with trans people. Every one of them is talking simply about 'hooking up', sexual encounters, 'have fun'. Whether they want to believe it or not, there are still people who date, looking for life partners. And, guess what? For a good number of those, that means children.
I remember 6 or so years ago when i got netflix and watched the Buck Angel documentary and at the end they're like "oh yeah, buck's vagina got gangrenous a few times so buck needed a full removal of the uterus and ovaries". that right there let me know that trans-genitals were a no-go.
I think I would bc I'm bi. But I prefer women and female genitalia. I think is completely fine to have this preference bc it doesn't change attraction in my case. I find attractive what i find attractive, and thats the beauty of it.
All for it, but that would moreso be Pansexuality. Bisexuality is the binary genders without all the gender identities involved.
Though, don't let me stop you from calling yourself a Bisexual if that's how you see yourself. It's just in case you didn't know about the Pansexual term.
@@Fandom_Gremlin I used to use the pan label years ago. The reason i don't, is that part of being pan is not having a preference in gender per se, while I have a clear preference. Also often pan is associated with all genders, but since there are only 2, I don't feel comfortable with it. Hope it clears that out, but still thanks for your comment.
I'm early this time! I'm not sure if I'd date a trans person or not. I think it would have to be someone who has been out for a while and passes, but brings it up early in the relationship. That way, I would have time to decide if I still love them even with the new information. I personally judge someone based on their character, their interests, their personality.
Idk I've heard so much about trans people going stealth until way too late in the relationship, and that is a hard no. But someone who admits early on that they are trans, well, I'm not going to cut it all off just because they revealed that side of themselves.
Not really love, but attracted. You could still love that person, just not want to get in the "action" with them ;)
@@yol_n yes, exactly!
It’s very rarely us trans folk saying it’s transphobic to not date us. Just a few delusional voices that were louder made the headline to make the rest of us look bad. Quite annoying
Your insight, clarity of thought, and refusal to abandon reality is always comforting. Instead of debating these things with people(I'm a natural debater type) I just send them to your channel 👍
Everyone has preferences:
- sexual characteristics
- skin/hair/eyes color
- thin/big/muscular/tall/small bodies
- etc.
Or can have no atttaction at all!
Lack of attraction doesn't mean hate...
Im attracted to people I develope an emotional connection with. Its not quite the same as being attracted to a certain persononality type, but their positive actions are what I find attractive. If a person does a kickflip after saving a basket of puppies from a burning building, imma be crushing ngl 😂
I have to disagree on one point, and just based on my own experiences. You can definitely be sexually attracted to a person for their personality, such as someone that is not physically attractive but has an amazing personality. Just like you can lose your sexual attraction to a person because of their personality or a facet of it, such as discovering the ugly side of them, for example. I've had both things happen to me. The former with a guy who was overweight, pretty plain-looking but incredibly fun to talk to; I was not initially attracted to him sexually, but became so after spending some time with him. The latter with an older guy who I was sexually attracted to for their appearance and then saw what they were like when they got really angry - they were seriously unhinged.
A person's personality, and 'aura' I guess (which has much to do with being self-confident but not narcissistic), can have incredible power to attract and repel sexually.
I can honestly say that I wouldn't have an issue dating a trans person of either gender if I really liked their personality, we could have good conversation, and 'being trans' (or part of the movement) wasn't their entire world. Maybe it makes it easier that I'm bisexual, but for me if I find their personality really appealing I'd be down to be with them regardless of what they did or didn't have under their clothes.
Amen Marcus. The organic eggplant definitely needs to be in the picture. I'm an intersex gay man and for me to date/sleep with a trans man that would make me hetero. I've never been with a woman and I'm not about to start!
Another great video Marcus!!
There are people who specifically want to date trans people. There are people who don’t. There are people who specifically want to date brunettes. There are people who don’t. Who you want to date is up to you, just don’t shit on other people for their choices.
So, love the video, BUT I do think people can be attracted to someone’s mind and personality regardless of any physical characteristics. I don’t care how “handsome” or “beautiful” someone is. I don’t usually even notice people until they make me laugh. Then, I can start to find them attractive. Before that, they might as well be an eggplant or whatever the female version of an eggplant is. 😂
Loving someone's mind and personality isn't the same as sexual attraction, though. I mean, if you're sexually interested in someone you should love their mind and personality, but the reverse isn't always true. We've all known children with beautiful souls and personalities, for instance. Not all appreciation of other people has to involve sex.
No, stupid. That's not how sexual orientation works for most people, who are either exclusively straight or gay.
A straight man will never date a trans "woman" , cuz that would be a homsexual encounter.
A gay man will never date a trans "man" cuz that would be a heterosexual encounter.
@@rebeccahicks2392"Not all appreciation of other people has to involve sex."
Or romance, for that matter.
I'm pretty sure if you stepped back and considered the people you dated, you'd find that they have a lot of common physical characteristics.
Finding someone attractive, and someone considered conventionally beautiful are two very separate things.
The point is, your partners may not be particularly handsome to the general population or they wouldn't be cast as a model, but they are (hopefully...) physically attractive TO YOU
So you're a normal person who is bisexual? Cause there is nothing special about been attracted to a person's mind or personality. It's actually very normal, so long as the personality is in a body we can accept.
I've never understood why people act as though attraction to a personality is unusual or special . Do you really that isn't how most relationships work? That's kinda daft
I am so glad that I am in a long term relationship (more then a decade). I don't want to date ANYONE else. I find the question, and the anticipated call out of transphobe, to be intentionally provocative and deceitful. Is it, would you date .. or would you have $3x with a transgender .. there is always a distinction in my mind ... would i go out to coffee? yes .. would i be interested in a physical relationship? Not so much. But why on earth would anyone want to have a relationship with someone that is being forced into it for fear of being labeled and canceled?
I did my Masters degree with people who were quite a bit younger than me. I'm pansexual and one girl could not understand why I didn't just call myself "bisexual". I explained to her that just because someone identifies as bisexual, doesnt mean they are open to or comfortable dating trans people, therefore the term pansexual distinguishes those who are. She said "well thats just transphobic". 🙄 Theres a whole sexual orientation that is used to describe people who are specifically open to dating trans people, and she still found something offensive about it.
That last bit has been confusing me a lot lately. These folks keep trying to change the definition of bi when pan is already a thing and has been for a bit. I think keeping the terms separate makes much better sense. It lets the other person know what they're getting into if they want to date you.
I never thought preferences for who you are attracted to would ever need an explanation.
Ok I don’t USUALLY prefer women, but I would totally date the Offensive Tranny!!
I have been watching heaps of your videos since finding you a week ago. Thankyou so much for all you are doing for us. Being a genuine Transexual woman for 35 years now has become a mine field these days because of these unbalanced activists. I am honest and open about my past when needed but I have basically gone back in the closet for safety reasons because of these trans activists extremists. I appreciate what your are doing to help us and educate vulnerable children and those out there who have been scared and confused by these tiktok trans trender anarchists.. Sending love and thanks from Australia. You are so wise beyond your years. I am considered a Dino Tranny with old fashioned views by some in my community. Tbh I avoid the community now. Much love from me. Keep up the good work. ❤
So like to me. You can be attracted to someone personality. And thats just called emotional attraction. Maybe there looks can catch u but sometimes they dont got looks. But love how they are as person. I love watching your vids. But its kinda wired to say u cant be attracted to someone personality
Sexual attractions as u explain is basically a whole different story
So if the personality has you than you would have sex with a 600 pound person?
Everything that comes with 600 pounds would not have any effect on your choosing to have sex and get with them in a sexual relationship?
What all these people seem to miss is that even as a heterosexual biological woman, I am not even attracted to every biological man I meet. My point is that as you say Marcus, "people are attracted to whoever they're attracted to" ... no explanation or excuse is needed.