Lots of people switch universities early on. We had three leave and two join from a nearby university, some for reasons as minor as parking availability, when I was an undergraduate.
I have been a Manics fan since Generation Terrorists, which I became aware of owing to my job at the time with Sony Music. At that period in music history MSP offered a controversial and marketable alternative. Their "protest band" (as you put it) ethic was a contrast to a rather bland era as we shifted gears from the ‘80’s to gods know what. How can we describe the 90’s? Compared with what came before, it’s a hard ask. I just answered the questions of why and how they got signed. You might be right - there could have been a deliberate manipulation behind the whole thing, likely Phillip Hall and co (they used to refer to their manager as the fifth band member) and later, maybe Sony. But this, and Nicky Wire’s did he or didn’t he go to the same university is irrelevant. I had to read the blurb to find out who the guy was sitting at the desk with you. For all of the 30 seconds that he contributed his testimony took nothing away from the character of Richey Edwards: bipolar people have periods of appearing completely ok before swinging to the extreme opposite. What was interesting was the footage of Wire and Bradfield where I agree that beyond the uncomfortable and tragic feelings one expects when dealing with loss there was something else. This conflates with own my feelings from the start that Richey is not dead, and that at least one of the band members knew. Where is Moore’s interview, and importantly, Phillip Hall’s? That would have been really interesting. A better approach to this would be to ask why go through the performance of a faked disappearance / death and not just simply leave? It could be argued that going with the former has added something to the mythos and mystique of MSP, even though it catapulted them in a completely different direction musically and as a group. In my opinion, they lost a chunk of their persona when Richey left, even though I still like them and their music. There is more than the one book on the disappearance that you referred to throughout. What about the Jovanovic book? And what of the fund that the band pays Richey’s royalties into, allegedly set up by them of their own volition? Who is the beneficiary if Richey is never found, or is in fact proven (not simply declared) to be dead? I imagine that there would be criminal implications in conveying a conspiracy (if that is what it turns out to be) so why would the band risk it? Or perhaps that fits with the bad boy / rebel ethic they had at the time. At any rate, sustaining this over 30 years now requires dedication and commitment. So why would they continue to do so? We didn’t need the summary of themes you laboured over with the MSP songs. We know what they were and it’s why they were so beloved. You are however the first critic that I can recall that has bothered to question Richey’s sexuality / gender identity and that would have been a more interesting thread to uptake than many of the others you pursued in this clip.
@@chadHK Sorry I'm not Richard. I just wanted to help him by uploading as many of his videos that Utube will allow. Plus update people about his current situation so people can support him if they want to. Email Richard: Richard@RichPlanet.net
Lots of people switch universities early on. We had three leave and two join from a nearby university, some for reasons as minor as parking availability, when I was an undergraduate.
I have been a Manics fan since Generation Terrorists, which I became aware of owing to my job at the time with Sony Music. At that period in music history MSP offered a controversial and marketable alternative. Their "protest band" (as you put it) ethic was a contrast to a rather bland era as we shifted gears from the ‘80’s to gods know what. How can we describe the 90’s? Compared with what came before, it’s a hard ask.
I just answered the questions of why and how they got signed. You might be right - there could have been a deliberate manipulation behind the whole thing, likely Phillip Hall and co (they used to refer to their manager as the fifth band member) and later, maybe Sony.
But this, and Nicky Wire’s did he or didn’t he go to the same university is irrelevant. I had to read the blurb to find out who the guy was sitting at the desk with you. For all of the 30 seconds that he contributed his testimony took nothing away from the character of Richey Edwards: bipolar people have periods of appearing completely ok before swinging to the extreme opposite.
What was interesting was the footage of Wire and Bradfield where I agree that beyond the uncomfortable and tragic feelings one expects when dealing with loss there was something else. This conflates with own my feelings from the start that Richey is not dead, and that at least one of the band members knew. Where is Moore’s interview, and importantly, Phillip Hall’s? That would have been really interesting.
A better approach to this would be to ask why go through the performance of a faked disappearance / death and not just simply leave? It could be argued that going with the former has added something to the mythos and mystique of MSP, even though it catapulted them in a completely different direction musically and as a group. In my opinion, they lost a chunk of their persona when Richey left, even though I still like them and their music.
There is more than the one book on the disappearance that you referred to throughout. What about the Jovanovic book? And what of the fund that the band pays Richey’s royalties into, allegedly set up by them of their own volition? Who is the beneficiary if Richey is never found, or is in fact proven (not simply declared) to be dead?
I imagine that there would be criminal implications in conveying a conspiracy (if that is what it turns out to be) so why would the band risk it? Or perhaps that fits with the bad boy / rebel ethic they had at the time. At any rate, sustaining this over 30 years now requires dedication and commitment. So why would they continue to do so?
We didn’t need the summary of themes you laboured over with the MSP songs. We know what they were and it’s why they were so beloved. You are however the first critic that I can recall that has bothered to question Richey’s sexuality / gender identity and that would have been a more interesting thread to uptake than many of the others you pursued in this clip.
@@chadHK Sorry I'm not Richard. I just wanted to help him by uploading as many of his videos that Utube will allow. Plus update people about his current situation so people can support him if they want to.
Email Richard: Richard@RichPlanet.net