John Cooper CALLS OUT “The Rot In Christian Music”
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2023
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Skillet’s John Cooper @CooperStuff has gone on the offense, exposing moral decline and deviation from core Biblical principles in CCM, and even calling out Christian artists by name who he feels are deserving of a public rebuke. We’re weighing in :)
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PAMily! Thoughts on the CCM world? Was John Cooper too harsh or was he right on? Where do you stand, let us know!
I really enjoy Cooper Stuff. He’s just a real man being a real man. We need more sanctified masculinity out here.
Agreed!
What is sanctified masculinity?
What’s a real man? Can I understand?
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Good luck, and good work.
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The Bible addresses the matter of profanity directly in Ephesians 5:4. "Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving." (NIV)
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I am a huge Skillet fan And I appreciate John Cooper. For speaking for UP.
I agree with Cooper. We just can't care about what others label us. Stand for truth. Be a Covenanter.
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That’s my guy John Cooper! I actually met him at a conference this year it was awesome! What he speaks on his Cooper’s stuff podcast is real!
That’s awesome! Yeah he’s one of my faves!
John cooper is proof Christians should NOT judge by appearance. My little brother told me about Skillet back in the day I thought they were a little out there! But Cooper is one of the boldest Christians out there. It's the heart that counts, not what people look like in their early days on the outside!
One of the things that makes me really sad is that I grew up listening to Andy Stanley's dad who is incredibly biblical. To see Andy go so far away must break his heart.
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Well, Chares Stanley is not worried anymore.............. He went to be with our LORD earlier this year.
@lorimart747 oh I wasn't aware . Thanks for telling me
In my opinion, THIS is your lane - i.e. responding to this sort of stuff and other cultural moments. That’s how I got into P&M and your videos have been both entertaining and encouraging. I was therefore a little disappointed when you announced a major focus on relationship stuff recently, as I think your voice on cultural issues is so valuable in helping guide fellow Christians through how we should feel / respond to them. I often wish I had your boldness. But, I respect you no doubt had your reasons at the time.
I know recently you said your views were down a little with the relationship stuff (which didn’t completely shock me) but I really hope they’re on the up again with content like this and others I’ve noticed you’ve been posting again more recently. God bless! Ewan (the one you can’t pronounce 😂) from Scotland.
Bro, this comment is super encouraging❤️
Completely agree. I stumbled upon your channel about a year ago as a middle aged mom and loved the content and shared much of it with my young teen daughter. I was really upset when you made the switch to relationship stuff and honestly I basically stopped watching. Not just because it didn’t apply to me, but because I so appreciated the discernment y’all have and felt you were both much needed youthful voices in this topsy turvy world. It wasn’t just me, a “legalistic” mom telling my daughter these things, but here was this adorable young couple loving the Lord and full of wisdom on so many issues. So I for one concur with @ueemc. This is your lane.
@@truthseeker2082Same. 💯💯💯
Hey Paul and Morgan, even I am happy to see you guys posting these stuff again cause I really appreciate your discernment on these videos. Love from india
I have to agree with this!! Love y’all’s BOLD take on culture issues !
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Love John! Thank you for standing up for what right guys!! I’ve been disappointed by some of recent comments under your videos. It makes me sad thinking about many Christian’s seem to be just blind over things happening in our culture. Breaks my heart. Keep on guys!! 🤍🤍🤍
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Let's go John!!!!!
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I have stopped listening to Christian music after a decade of just listening to it...... and I feel free and closer to God by doing it. Now I just enjoy music for music with it having no connection to God or chasing an emotional feeling from it.
My husband was in a Christian rock band and actually toured with John Cooper. He is definitely a Christian who walks the walk. My husband told me the label actually told them that they had to add Jesus’ name more to their songs because it would “sell” better. Unfortunately moral decay creeps into so many aspects of what is for Christ. We must be on guard as Christians and ready for discernment
I think whether or not you curse is a sign of spiritual maturity and not spiritual purity. Unfortunately people often confuse these things. I remember when I was on fire for the Lord when I first got off of drugs and alcohol and I did a devotional for a small group of people. I accidentally said the F word while I was speaking , of course I didn't mean to. But the looks on some people's faces were horrendous. They had the look on their face that they immediately disregarded anything else I had said, no matter if it was good. I fear that a lot of people in the church are this way, they can't see past this and that is falling off of people and so they just label people as unholy. A lot of the times people might have bad habits when they first come to Christ and God will deal with them on those things and of course we can talk to them about those things too. But just say that someone can't be a good Christian and occasionally use a curse word is simply ridiculous
Wait, did I just hear you refer to someone as "they" at 10:37??? I thought that was terrible and worldly???
Okay this is off topic, but have y’all checked on mike winger!? I haven’t seen anything from him on any social media platforms and I’m genuinely worried lol
Good word at the end ❤ Thankyou
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Love you guys!
Go get em tigers!
Get em John!
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Do you guys think we are in or at the door of the last of the end times ? Obviously the tribulation hasn’t started yet but with everything that’s going on in the world it could be soon in my opinion. What do you guys think?
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I wonder if y’all have considered that gender roles (hyper masculine vs hyper feminine) are of the world? I believe personally that society wants men and women separated in a toxic way, when really our souls are the important part. Not the clothes we wear or makeup we put on. Just a thought!
Good word Guys. I really love these videos
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You can be real and not cuss. God wants us to be honest, real, and repentant. Not being ashamed of Sexual sin is not repentance.
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As we are possibly in the last days, or approaching them;
What's happening in the World should be expected.
(P.s. - I'm gonna make a Godly version of Metal Music). 🎸🔥
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I don't really like the idea of having swearing-in Christian music that I've been musing on this issue of why cursing is so bad when you're a Christian? What spiritual harm does it do? In my opinion, this is more of a wisdom issue. I don't want to stumble my brother by cussing up a storm but I also don't think much harm can be done by saying a simple s word once in a while if u stub your toe. I asked for forgiveness every time I cuss but I also never feel really convicted that it's something God cares about a lot
Thank you Paul and Morgan for continuing to stand for GOD'S TRUTH and talking about these controversial discussions. Keep up the good work and don't give up. "The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has NOT overcome it." John 1:5
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I just listened to the song and it’s so good🔥
If I wanted to a recovery center, the last place I would choose would be a religious based treatment center.
Wow. I actually really like the Judah song. I like HONEST lyrics, always have. So I don’t mind the “ here and there” expletive.
He did this knowing he could get dropped from his record label good for him.
Do you know who his label is?
@PaulandMorgan I believe he's on atlantic. It's a secular label. People are getting cancelled for saying way less than he said.
Thinking of you both as I make challah bread in your honor 😁 By the way, it’s pronounced “hallah” 😅 the “c” is silent, haha, so it’s confusing! 😅
With love, Melizabeth 😁
Hahaha is that name gunna stick?😄😂 you’re a good sport :) Ohhhh interesting, I’ll try to remember that🥖
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I loved kings kaleidoscope but they are dead to me after that stunt. It did not come across as real and raw. It felt childishly edgy.
Flamy meets Amy!!! hahaha!!! Nice!:)
Do all those same people that say they're applauding the fact that these people are showing their true selves (and that is a truth!) give that same measure to Pastors or evangelists that mess up? Or that take up an offering even? Doubtful. But somehow that's ok for the "Christian" singer?
I actually think the song by Judah should be in a separate category for discussion from the other artists who are actually doing terrible things in their music.i view cussing as more of a discernment matter than a sinful one.
Paul: I listen to reliant k and newsboys.
the reliant k that invited Semler to tour with them last year? Yeaaahhh that’s right boiiii! 😈😈😈😈😈
Life was pretty 'raw' for Jesus and many of his followers in the bible... they didn't resort to profanity. I think you can express raw feelings to God or in song without resorting to worldly raunch.
Lol me clapping in the office at work 😂 I surely am not buying it! When I hear for instance the cussing, I just always think of "a wholesome tongue is a tree of life". Youd be insane to believe that cussing is wholesome. Why would you want to speak so distructively? This world is getting really scary....
Good convo
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personally, Judah’s music really speaks to me and makes me feel God. The song that y’all were referring to is very relatable to me. I understand that the song may not be for everyone but it really speaks to me. I do agree that the “f bomb” didn’t have to be in the song and he totally could have just made the family version be the song. He did choose to make the family version tho for people who don’t like cussing and I think that was a great idea because it is a very powerful song and a lot of people need to hear it. Also, I don’t think Judah wants his music to be under the umbrella of christian music. It’s simply just music made by a christian. He started out with his side project independently and eventually Capitol records started promoting it. But he’s still an independent artist. People are just choosing to promote him as a christian artist or worship artist.
Not buyin’ it
Ok guys, I know a friend that has been warning you all about staying away from this genre, now you are hearing it again.................I would take a serious look................
there's people
all sorts of people, some straight, some gay, some trans, some drag - get over it
it's a shame that that you look down upon people who dresses as they want to dress, who expresses themselves how they feel and love who they love
life is about how you treat others, animals and the planet
the derek/flamy track is a piece of art
“Can’t you see you’re not making Christianity any better? You’re just making rock n’ roll worse.”
-Hank Hill
i just went to the drag queen dude’s instagram and bro is so arrogant. his whole page is basically just him bragging about being #1 in the Christian music charts or getting offended when christians call him out on his nonsense. He even had a post about bringing a bunch of queer people to crash the dove awards this year. It seems like his mission is to destroy christianity and make it gay. And I don’t think he even listens to christian music. He definitely doesn’t follow any of the most influential christian artists. But anyway I think he just wants to be loved and accepted but he needs to realize the Christian community isn’t the place to go for that unless he repents and leaves his life of sin behind.
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Sadly I am not surprised that they are now putting "F Bombs" in Christian music.. the Gen Z "zoomers" generation use very bad language so casually now, and even in the middle of the grocery store. 😐
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Morgan is so fine
I find it extremely hard to find good non heretical Christian music. The more I read scripture, the more I notice the heresies.