This Tank Is Hopeless
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- Опубліковано 19 бер 2024
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The American M60 main battle tank has seen innumerable upgrades throughout its lifespan, but one is particularly interesting. The M60 120S or M60 2000 received the turret of an M1 Abrams and an upgraded powerpack. In War Thunder it only has the former, making it incredibly slow and painful to use.
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This Tank Is Hopeless - Ігри
In retrospect I believe a lot of my bad experiences with this thing can be attributed to the general state of top tier, but the lack of mobility really hurts it. Maybe I'll try replaying it sometime.
Play the T26E1-1 pls
the M48A1, it is extremely bad and you get apcr as the stock shell couldnt be worse.
Top tier is miserable most of the time unfortunately. It's fun to play with all of the neat toys the tanks get but it's just not fun
don't sugarcoat it, gaijin just hates america and abrams and keeps releasing them, it's hopeless.
Day 1 of asking Spookston to play the AMX-10P.
The silly little bobble head thinks it’s an Abrams
@@ManBehindAHood-760 Exist.
@@steweygrrrtankism
@@ManBehindAHood-760 disappoint me
@@charlieyes4946 tankism 💀
it is an Abrams with dwarfism and you can't tell me otherwise lol
There was someone explaining how tanks are coded in the game.
"They don't do torque in the game. Ground vehicles are essentially planes with a bunch of gravity drag and counter-friction applied to them..."
Quite literally climbing hills in this game decreases your engine power. I forget specifically how it works, but the basic logic is "More speed = More torque" This is why things like the ITO couldn't climb out of a tiny ass crater because it was slow to accelerate, and therefore had no torque.
Can't wait for the Torque Strike update to come, when they try and fail to implement it and everything becomes even worse
That explains quite a lot of things, actually.
@@khan-artist2443Cue T-80s crawling on ceilings to give you a Spider-Man kiss with a 3BM42 dart.
I Love My Ancient Coding Indie WW2 Plane Game That Eventually became Mostly about Tanks and occasionally Jets
Yep, Totally
There's a reason the upgrades to tanks like the M48A3 and M41D have less horsepower than the previous versions and are still an upgrade.
The M60 after a gagillion wars being employed STILL, SOMEHOW in some militaries STILL getting modernizations:
"I'm tired boss."
M60: Boss, just let me rest.
Third and Second World Nations with 9999 M60s in there inventory: _No._
Mostly 2 nd world 3rd usually have Russian equipment
@@raidenarmstrong1642
Depends on what criteria you both are using, second world countries are actually meant to represent that support/are supported by the USSR while Third world countries are officially neutral on the Cold war, so third world countries would usually have more American surplus or cheap west European equipment while second world would have a majority of Soviet equipment.
Take Philippines (third world) for example, Uses surplus equipment and vehicles from USA like M113s, while their most modern are from European countries like France or Spain and also Israel (the newest Sabrah light tank they just got is from Spain with Israeli electronics)
Meanwhile, Vietnam, which would be a second world country, currently has the T-90S as their modern tank equipment, with other Soviet era tanks in service as well.
Estoy cansado jefe
T-55s: "First time?"
@@raidenarmstrong1642 True but 2nd/3rd world (in the economic/development sense) US allies like Turkey and Egypt received a ton of M60s
fun fact: the saying "don't look a gift horse in the mouth" is pretty universal actually, seeing as horses were supremely important before industrialisation and looking at a horses teeth was a common way to gauge it's health
I was kind of confused after hearing "don't look a gift horse in the mouth... That's probably a weird saying for a person who doesn't speak English natively" because I thought this idiom was exclusive to Indo-European languages and it would be confusing for an English speaking person 💀💀💀
@@kekersdev english is an indo-european language though, through the germanic, scandiwegian, and franco-romantic origins.
@@geekchris105 huh... I never thought about that
'nem g'schenkten Gaul schaut man nicht ins Maul
*German version
We actually have the same saying in Portuguese "Never look the teeth of a given horse", however its pretty out of fashion nowadays.
Spookston bingo:
[x] hates the tank he's playing
[x] "BROTHER WHAT"
[x] "die please, thank you :3"
[x] "uhm *gulp*"
[x] "HOW ARE YOU NOT DEAD"
[x] dies to CAS
[x] "oh my goodness"
[x] cool tank facts
[x] "ope"
[x] gets jumpscared and yanks the mouse around
[x] in total disbelief of this game's damage model
[x] "excuse me?"
[x] has a headache
[x] Cat reacts
[x] Minecraft cave noises
@@MechWarrior894[x] Hi sound effect
[x] "Geez Louise"
Dies to Cas should be a free slot it's garenteed
[x] "dawg"
8:21 first time seeing someone use the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. gauss rifle sound effect in a video, I love it.
Was surprised as well
@@gauss_gunI like your name
No way you made that guy explode to a smoke alarm beep 💀
I really hope that was edited in and not Spooks' alarm. Like, buy a battery my dude.
@@LeonGerity "Your ceiling bird is hungry"
1:30
I thought that I was the only one who noticed lol
@@erictheepic5019 "ceiling bird" wtf XD
2:25 That'd be quite a mobile tank, 12000 horsepower is definitely something that'd be revolutionary enough for the M60
1,200, not 12,000 lol :3
Spook said 12000 not 1,200.@@LesbianCroissant
1200* but it would be the Ultimate 120 Glass Cannon.
12000 horsepower? Flying Abrams?
if u type 12 thousand in google it will pop as 12000, u guys mistook it with twelwe hundred@@pilotman9819
“Only in death does our duty end”
- M60 fleet motto
3:57
Thats actually a fairly common saying here in Eastern Europe anyway. But it the variation is that "You dont check the teeth of a gift horse"
In germany too
It honestly looks so cursed, the uncanny valley of looking like an M1. Like a movie studio dressed up an M60 to look like one, like many in the past did with T-34s and T-55s to look like Tigers.
It looks like a M1 that was compressed on the horizontal axis
iirc most movie/tv shows M1 Abrams are modified Chieftains 😂😂😂😂
Honestly the dimensions of it feel weird
It looks more correct in the IRL 120S but in game it just feels weird
M1s don't look like M1s in the movies, you gotta use M60s.
Fun fact Hasbro released a Megatron toy in 2020 that transforms into a tank that looks 99% like this one.
hope you recover well
I might have a goldfish brain what happened
@@timoriv4052dialysis
@@timoriv4052 he just had surgery for his kidneys I believe. There should be a post on his community tab on his channel.
Hes severely autistic and got liver something idk tbh @@timoriv4052
@@timoriv4052 Spookston needs a Kidney transplant
Gaijin has been pretty allergic to giving tanks upgraded engines lately. The VT-4A1 is also missing its 1500hp engine.
I see Spook was trying to lean on the scales a bit by saying the tank had 12,000 horsepower. Would probably immediately become his favourite tank in the game if it did though.
3:52 that's actually a very normal thing to say over here in the glorious and troubled Balkans. We literally say the exact same thing, but in our language of course.
I was shocked this exists in English, and I did some quick research: apparently it's in the Bible, so no surprise that it's present in many languages that were touched by Big G through history. Wiktionary lists translations to Persian and Chinese too.
@@overconfidentpineapple8783 Interesting. Didn't know about the Bible thing.
I assumed it exists elsewhere but didn't know that it's that wide spread.
agreed, in Georgia its like "you don't check teeth of a gifted horse"
"Einem Geschenkten Gaul schaut man nicht ins Maul" in German
2:31 They get their vehicle stats from there? That explains SO much.
Isn't that the site Blacktail Design writes for? What kind of crack is Gaijin smoking to take their word for it?
@@maitele Only God knows. I don't think even snoop dogg would dare try whatever gaijin is sniffing.
No wonder the US gets hella nerfed all the time if they get their stuff off of that shithole 😂😂
They only source their stats from there if it's detrimental to US tank performance. Otherwise, design details found on the back of a shit-streaked piece of toilet paper covered in vodka stains are considered valid for improving a USSR tank.
@@bandgeekster 100% it’s like the irony they have around the sepV3 not having depleted uranium. If the sepV3 doesn’t have depleted uranium in the hull then why is its weight the same as a sepV3 with depleted uranium in the hull Gaijin? Why the same weight Gaijin?
Not that it really matters at that b.r, but the lower plate is slightly weaker than on the normal M60s. It's slightly less angled, so it can't stop 105 sabot (and some other things) making it unnecessarily more vulnerable against vehicles at a lower b.r
" Why not give it the 1200 horsepower engine?"
Because Gaijin will always choose the lowest performing variant of a US tank they can.
The T1E1 with the 3" gun instead of the 90mm gun.
The M4 90mm without the HVSS suspension.
The T25 without the stabilizer.
On and on and on.
Listen... the M60 is trying its hardest okay...
The amount of times spookston was on the verge of full blown crying from frustration is enough of a review for any vehicle
Thanks for the heads up Spookston, this thing was next on my research list, but now that I found out it's "lacking" if that,s the correct word for it, now its on the bottom of my -to research list.
"We have M1 Abrams at home"
The M1 Abrams at home:
lol
Gajin:"They're catching on that we're selectively adding single vehicle prototypes to only Russia and Germany. Put a shitty one in America."
Also Gajin: "We need to pad the Russian point and click Lineup in compensation."
Also also Gaijin: what they say it has 1200hp? Nah thats not what this obvious bullshit blog post says. also russian tanks have billions of horsepowers papa putin said so.
I actually felt like checking how many prototypes were in US/Russia and found 31 American and 17 Russian ones, but a lot of the American ones are late WW2 like the T26E1-1 or event vehicles like the XM8 while a lot of the Russian ones are later Cold War.
@@dti1312 And a lot of those American ones perform so poorly in game or have been nerfed down after being good.
Not to say that there aren't good ones, but there is a lot of Russian ones that just outperform everything else somehow despite real life performing terribly.
Could you check how many German ones there are? Including the "removed" ones.
Seeing major nation mains bickering is hella funny, yall just need to get good 💀
Gaijin "Introduce a good US Tech Tree vehicle" Challenge, Difficulty: Maximum
Literally Gajin could've added anything. They could've finally given us an AA for the mid tiers. But nope. They added a shitty prototype because they were adding too many single vehicle prototypes to Russia and Germany that are busted op.
@@aiedenoldstien9751Gaijin despises SPAA and they go out of their way to nerf it when possible (probably to sell more CAS premiums like the A-6 and Su-25)
Britain has it worse for naval they have one top tier bb but Japan has 5
I would rather take Lav 25 at this point or AA. US have alot of cool design tank and they decided to added another abram that no one want to use
>american mains trying not to complain about not being crushingly handheld for one millisecond
Thanks for posting the games that didn't pan out. It's nice to see even experienced pros having their bad games. Makes the WT suffering a bit more bearable.
Spookston really brought the 120S into battle without a lineup.
It's to show that he's only testing the vehicle not actually playing the game and having fun with said vehicle.
3:53 this saying also exists similarily in german: ,,Einem geschenkten Gaul schaut man nicht ins Maul." (A gifted Workhorse you dont look in into the mouth) [translated literally]. So yeah, there's that.
Gifted is the wrong translation. Rather like hes said: a gift horse
It's a thing in Spanish too, and probably more languages.
And Polish too
In russian as well
Gaijun adds 292 at 10.0, and recently adds another T-80 as a premium. Sure gaijun, definitely no favoritism going on here
Ceo of gaijin is a Russian main. Lots of bias going on there
To be fair, the premium T80 isn't great, arguably worse than the Turms. No thermals and it's the diesel T80 so the mobility is the same as Turms. Also Turms comes in a pack so it's definitely a worse deal for the players.
@@92HazelMocha isn't great?!! ISNT GREAT?!!!
Boy what are you smoking?
It has the best armor for it's br, 1 of the best rounds for it's br, while it is the slowest t80, at 10.0 it's not really hindered by that.
Right now Russia is steamrolling everyone.
@@cookiecracker2thermals are probably the most impactful upgrade a tank can get at that BR range, like, cool, you have good armour? Most things can still kill you if they shoot you in the same weakspots as for every other tank based in that chassis so it's only gonna save you from the occasional idiot shooting you in the turret cheeks or lower UFP
@@cookiecracker2it’s armour may be strong, but the weak spots where you should be shooting it anyway do not change at all
I really liked the cut aways to x-ray and armour analysis, added both info and humour.
spookston videos remind me of that simpson scene where homer tries building a grill, cause every time I watch one of these it makes me wanna play WT, I launch it, and instantly am hit by the reminder that 90% of my shots don't pen while most enemies seem to OS me, and I wonder what I'm doing wrong
3:53 "Darowanemu koniowi nie zagląda się w zęby" We got this in Polish too :D
'Cavalo dado não se olha os dentes" We have it in portuguese as well, i think it's a very famous saying.
"Дарёному коню в зубы не смотрят"
In russian too :D
Hah, akurat miałem to napisać!
Я узнал, почему эта фраза так распространена! Люблю изучать языки мира
Calque of Latin expressions such as equi dentes inspicere donati (“to inspect the teeth of a provided horse”) in St. Jerome's c. 400 Preface to the Commentaries of the Letter to the Ephesians (Commentariorum in Epistolam ad Ephesios Libri Tres), which designates it as a "common proverb" (vulgare proverbium). The ultimate referrent is inspection of horses' teeth as a way of ascertaining their age and value.
"Einen geschenkten Gaul schaut man nicht ins Maul"
Yup, germany too.
Spookston telling his community, that his bladder almost exploded so hed be taking some rest after his surgery... proceeds to upload the next day anyways. Thank you Spookston.
3:25 Preeeetty sure that was on you Spookston. You shot through the roadwheel from the side. That was
too far to the front from that angle. Also really low, which is how you got the trsck on the other side.
It was never built with the 1200hp power pack. The whole concept of the vehicle itself was to marry the M1A1 turret to the M60A3 hull. The engine, therefore, was the Continental AVDS-1790-2C; 12 cylinder, 4 cycle, 90° vee, supercharged diesel, making 750 hp. It was a proposal that after the vehicle would be purchased, that the purchasing country could outfit the tank with the Abrams/ Merkava power pack. As for the thermals, export authorized countries were to get 2nd gen thermals while non export could swap out to their own thermals. Reply for sources if you’re curious, but TL;DR: They did a good job with putting the 120S in game. They just need to address the M829A1 penetration issues but pre and post pen.
People couldnt even properly fit inside the object 775 and its missiles couldnt hit the broad side of a barn irl, yet its a functioning tank in wt, its always the russian tanks that get the ''it was imagined it would do this and it does'' and american ones get the ''not all of them had it therefore none of them had it'' treatment
@ozan1234561 dude actually
Didn't they try to get Taiwan to buy the?
Ah yes,the tank that was built by GDLS to fight an Israelian-built M60 with 1200hp doesn't have 1200hp.
It's like knowing very well that you need to bring soccer shoes to a soccer match and then refuse to bring them on purpose believing that the enemy team might be bad.
You man, surely are one of those i encounter on the forums bragging about their desire to nerf USA into the oblivion
@@ozan1234561 what, you wanna add chances of tracks and tranmissions breaking into war thunder as well because of that? the 120S never did have the upgraded 1200 engine, period. So don't throw around "russian bias russian bias" just for sake of argument
Attempt number 24 at getting Spookston to play any tank with a dozer blade, the catch is, he has to dig in before engaging any targets. Movement around the map is allowed, but he had to dig in again.
3:54 That is also a saying in Dutch (my language). The more you know.
Also in Russian. Дареному коню в зубы не смотрят.
Same in portuguese
Same goes for german
Yup, Spanish too
And as a native speaker of Slovak, In Slovakia it has the same meaning.
Ive been waiting for this video my entire life
No CAS deaths in the whole video? How strange
2:01 Ya just had to jinx it.
The intro meme is painfully real
1:30
Did anyone else hear that fire alarm beep? Lmao
its edited in btw
I don't mean it to be the special dude: I love how the tank looks :D
Possibly because I love when a tank has a similar length/size in both turret and hull. Like it is a good looking size ratio when looking at them from the side.
Like Maus, Tiger II, Leopard 2A7, T-55... They look very aesthetically good when seen from the side, as the turret and hull are very close in length.
The regular show sound effect is a great addition to the meme sound collection Spoopy my boy.
Its bad enough it doesn't even have the up armored hull but it also has the stock engine with no era/composite.. this is the definition of sadness
According to AW (who actually do quite a bit of research on their vehicles) it should have the 1790-series engine which produced 750HP, not the abysmal 660~hp of the one in WT. The production versions were to be fit with the 1200hp version, but the tank never went into production. Even if WT is modeling based on the prototype and not the tentative production version, it should *still* have about 100ish more HP than it does.
it does have 750 HP, it comes 663 HP when its stock, spookston just misleading his audience yet again
The production variant was shown to the public in October 2001
So sorry,your info is wrong
It looked like those non-pens on weak spots reflected off the barrel first, which probably reduced the pen down enough to not go through the weak spot.
In that first instance at about 1:51 where the 292 doesn't immediately blow up is because you shot exactly where the unloaded half of the carousel is, since taking only enough rounds to fit the turret bustle storage (16) means only half of the carousel gets loaded.
Hey, Spook. I would really enjoy to see you play the Swedish Strv m/39. It has an amazing APDS round at 1.0. Love your videos. :)
Not looking a gift Horse in the mouth is actually a saying in german as well :D "Einem geschenkten Gaul schaut man nicht ins Maul" 3:55
ty spook i am actually close to getting this imma research it and keep going lol
in espanish we got the same saying and it goes like this " a caballo regalado no se le mira dientes" "you don't look at a gift horse's teeth"
Recover quickly please! Also, do you think that you could play the Israeli AML-90? If you do then be warned that small spaces with weird hitboxes might make the little Rat Tank fly into space. Have a great day and a quick recovery!
Obscure the Sturmtiger with bushes and embrace your inner Goblin.
man i was so close to the M1 now i gotta go through this thing
3:35 probably because of no spalling and questionable damage models, that 2s38 a while before was a nice example
There is simply no reason for this to be 10.0, it's outclassed in literally every regard.
Are you high?
>amerifarts get M829A1 with a 5 second reload and gen2 thermals at 10.0 and STILL cry
Day 5 of asking spookston for boyfriend voice reveal (this is based off the 250k Q&A btw)
reading the wikipedia page, it seems the protype still retained the weaker engine, but, to quote the page, " It was envisioned that production vehicles would have the more powerful General Dynamics Land Systems AVDS-1790-9 diesel developing 1,200 hp (890 kW) and Allison X-1100-5 series automatic transmission extending operational range to over 300 miles (480 km)..." so Gaijin just went with the weaker engine I guess
Problem is,the version that was shown to the public in late 2001 WAS the final production variant.
Why? because the main competitor to GDLS was the Sabra program: they had a lot of experience in Turkey with the Sabra II,so they were the favourite even before releasing the Sabra III. GDLS knew that the Sabra III had the 1200hp engine,and adding the same engine to the 120S as an "optional" is a very dumb idea,so GDLS simply bit the bullet and added that engine to the 120S,even because it has almost the same dimensions as the OG M60 engine.
In short, prototype variant had the 750hp engine+1st gen thermal combo,while the final production variant had the 1200hp+2nd gen thermal option
Never,in this tank's life,has been a variant with the stock engine and the upgraded optics
@@imnomoremaverick Where are people like you getting this info from? I don't find anything and everything points for it to NOT have a 1200hp engine. Are you just disagreeing for the sake of going against Gaijin
Just subbed 🥳 love your channel!
Day 23 of asking spookston to play the chi ha short gun
Hey I play with you sometimes
@@The_Grunge yes
8:22 Gauss Rifle, my beloved
This intro is definition of "I came to laugh not feel"
2 minutes in and spookston already got cas…you know it’s gonna be a great video
2:31 This is incorrect. The source for this claim is Janes Armor and Artillery 2005-2006, Page 163.
"The fully functional prototype of the 120S retains the standard M60 series power pack consisting of a General Dynamics Land Systems AVDS-1790 series diesel engine developing 750 bhp.
It is envisioned that production vehicles would have the more powerful General Dynamics Land Systems AVDS-1790-9 diesel developing 1,200 hp. This would be coupled to the Allison X-1100-5 series automatic transmission and M1A1 final drives."
The Military Today article is actually a direct quote.
Spookston, i 100% recommend both the 6.7 fiat and aubl from italy, both low armor high speed flanking MENACES of their br.
I know you are a goblin, so i highly recommend this tank for you.
Stock grinding the 2S25M at this br is actually suprisingly fun
I play mostly AB and this tank is perfect for this game mode i really enjoy it
great video, I see I am not the only one hit by vertex explosions whit the new update soo at least the issue is not a linux side issue
In brazil we actually have a almost identical saying, the translation would be: "at a gifted horse you dont look the teeth"
It’s 3:44am and I’m in the emergency for a spider bite (cause Australia) anyway your video is making my waiting experience a little less painful. Thank you spooksoon
I saw the thumbnail for this video and thought, "That's a funny looking Abrams." I don't play this game but you're the only one I watch with any frequency for War Thunder.
one of few games which makes me want to relapse and play it less the more videos i watch on it
Spookston really needs to play a fun vehicle next after this!
7:12 it’s funny how not only the shell doesn’t pen, but the xray shows the sabot hitting the side of the leopard 2 instead of the round itself 💀💀💀
Y'know what, I wanna see you try out the British Conqueror.
I unlocked it a few days ago. My friends were saying I'd really, really hate it. Turns out I actually love it!
-6 KG APDS works really well and regularly one shots some tanks!
-35km/h is a decent speed for a 66t tank, I'd say.
-Rangefinder
-Well armoured, weakspots are the lower front plate and the commander's hatch/turret.
-Commander takeover of the gun.
I really wanna see you try out the conqueror!
nevermind I am blind he already played it
I've had a great time with it, your issue is your trying to use mobility despite knowing you don't have it, just find a hull down which is surprisingly easy with its height, and usually before you reach any cap and just rail people
Unfortunately that makes it just basically a more practical losat
3:55 in germany we got a kind of similar saying. ,,Einem geschenktem Gaul guckt man nicht ins Maul", which is translated into ,,You don´t look in the mouth of a giftet horse", but you use it more as a request
Gotta love a tank that has more depression in its vrew than its turret. Also, best wishes with your recovery post surgery mate.
The one thing the m60-2K has over the other M60s weither fighting with your other US m60 pals or fighting other M60s that other nations have, the 2K can peak around corners with the Abram’s cannon before the m60 turret can get around to doing the same.
My fourth plead for a Marder A1 or Wiesel video, good sir!
A Magach 7C video could be great Spookston :)
@ 7:15 it's a sabot petal impacting and deflecting off the Type 90's side skirt. Your shot penetrated but went into the void... 😿
7:15 hit cam showed the sabot petal so the actual dart probably didnt do anything
3:58 Actually in the Czech Republic we have very similar saying but intead of "in mouth" we have "at teeth".
YES SPOOKSTON FOUND NIKO THE BAIKAL SEAL YAY!
With how apfsds behaves sometimes, I believe it was done so people dont get oneshot all the time. Ive had way too many shots which did liitpe to no damage
You should look at the M60 MZK project. That chasis with that turret look very goofy
0:50 ooh here's a fun and super bad idea: instead of reversing away from fire, turn your bum to the enemy and use the power of forward drive! I'm assuming everybody's going for one shot tanks in this game? I've never played it but I feel like whenever I see clips people are always getting one-shot kills.
Italy had plans to put an OF-40 turret ontop the Celere Sahariano, but cancelled the project due to the poor performance of the OF40 turret. Updated plans are now in motion to mount the Ariete turret atop the Celere Sahariano instead. In light of this information you should play the Celere Sahariano
Spookston dying to the Regular Show intro: "Oh no bro"
Spookston you should try the american 75mm m3 cannon glitch, Its where you break the cannon then fire the HE round on the place where the cannon meets the mantlet. I think it would make for a great challenge.
Hey spookston. I hope your doing ok man. Your one of the people i watch a lot.
this is the most bewildered I've ever heard him
Maybe one day they will give us the envisioned production model with the better engine as a folder vehicle
I just found your channel recently, and I've had a ton of fun watching your videos. I haven't played WT at all, but I feel like I've got a bit of a feel for the game after watching your play. I enjoy the pacing of your content, and I really appreciate your mid-western word choice and accent (I'm from the Midwest as well). Keep going strong; I really enjoy the videos.
Honestly this might be the most painful video i have ever seen
Get well soon Spooks!
I like how 3 feet of the turret basket is showing
I guess we need sekrit documents to know wheter should this tank's engine be buffed or not if the current sources are unreliable