The little lean forward they do and resting their heads on their hands staring at Karl in the intro, we are essentially doing that when watching people like you discover Karl 😄
Samuel Pepys was the chief secretary/administrator of the British Navy in the 17th century. He famously kept a diary for 10 years about historical events that happened at the time.
10:00 when I first watched this I was at uni, I'm now a psychotherapist with my own private practice - so I have an interest in these things to begin with, but when I heard this conversation I could not resist going down a rabbit hole in the universities digital library - it's actually more common to have an inner monologue and assumed to be a variation on a condition called 'Aphantasia' if you don't - while the actual condition means you quite literally cannot imagine anything, in milder forms it simply reduces the ability to mentally verbalise. That being said, it doesn't seem to have any apparent drawbacks in real life... people who have it simply find other ways to engage in similar behaviors. Worth mentioning that there is not a strong body of work behind this subject and more research is needed.
@ProudOfYourRoots It's certainly possible, but I don't think so, many people who have 'inner monologues' have no idea that others do not and vice versa, because how could you if you have never asked? and how often would this come up in a typical conversation? it's often taken for granted. Also, as far as I'm aware, the term 'monologue' isn't grammatically reliant on the lack of a response or reply, it is just the act of 'one person speaking' derived from the ancient Greek words 'mono' roughly translated to 'singular' and 'logue' roughly 'discourse' i.e. 'singular discourse'. It is essentially just a term which defines the act of a single speaker, speaking, and the presupposition 'inner' would suggest that 'inner monologue' is, in it's literal meaning, 'the act of a single person speaking inside'. That's my understanding of it anyway but I'm not a linguistic expert so it's possible I may be mistaken. My point really is just that the conversation seems to be coherent and legible as it is, so why would we assume they mean anything other than what they are saying. - On the topic of Schizophrenia, 'hearing voices', in one's head, is a commonly purported symptom however, generally these 'voices' are not perceived to be voices of the 'self', at least not the identity within which the 'patient' is existing when they are 'hearing' the voices, the voices are more commonly those of alter-ego's, alternate personas, or mental representations of people/beings whom the patient has concocted to make sense of thoughts/feelings they are highly stimulated by.
@ProudOfYourRoots you're right I'm certain he tells jokes where his inner monologue is the subject! would be great to see his response to all the unanswered questions from the podcast, what a brilliant idea xD
Ok, so I think I may have this too now (because of the part I just paused to check the comments was rather confusing to me...) People literally 'hear' voices in their own head? Also, I can not picture things in my head when I close my eyes, which a few people have told me isn't normal. Hmm...
@@uniformedchaos9835 yeah it was strange for me when I found out not everyone speaks to themselves in their head to be honest 😂 well before I started studying psychology and I thought either I was crazy or they were brain dead. But realistically, its just a difference in thought processes. For example I was just playing a strategy game now, and I was trying to figure out how to win the battle, so I asked and answered questions in my own head as if I were explaining them to somebody else and gauging their response. I won the battle anyway, against long odds, so whether im crazy or not im happy with the out come 😂 - and to answer Karl's question, yes I think in my accent
I am a bit late to the conversation here, but the way it works for me - I am one of the "thoughts as a concept" people - is that if I am late, I just look at the clock, and the awareness of being late sets in in my head. But it is not verbalized inside of my mind in a sentence, in words. I am simply familiar with the concept of being late, and I realize that this concept applies in that particular situation, so now I am hurrying. As far as inner monologues in movies go, this is how it works in my case: I *can* verbalize a thought inside of my head if I wanted to. It's just an extra step which is not necessary most of the time. So, I thought in movies there is simply no good way to represent people's thoughts unless you use that extra step of verbalizing the thought of the protagonist and make him formulate it in words. So, I always thought that it was just the best way to represent a protagonists thought process, even if it involved this extra unneccesary step of formulating thoughts in words.
Thoughts are conceptual by nature, our development of language as a species came after our ability to think and a child who is isolated and does not develop any languaage literacy will still have thoughts. Whether you have an internal monologue is a secondary aspect that helps you formulate and work through those thoughts and ideas.
i have been a huge fan of this show since it first aired on HBO..it has helped me get thru some immensely dark times in my life...Ricky put it on YT as a "gift" for everyone to view..God Bless em
@@MandyCaneLane RG said on more then one occasion that his discovery of Karl P and him bringing him to the masses...is "His gift to the 🌎" Also..im sure youve seen The Office? of course everyone knows the original was made in England by him.
Ricky doesn't need an inner monologue as he's always talking anyway. Not a quiet moment in sight. He seems like the kind of person who's almost never alone with his thoughts.
There'd be no point watching reactions if it was just someone sat quietly in the corner of the video throughout. Reactions videos are for people to add input and context and tell ancedotes etc.
@@MandyCaneLane I notice them on every reaction channel and I always say the same thing to the person reacting. They're never happy lol. If you pause to voice your reaction, they complain. If you don't pause and you miss something because of it, they complain. Just ignore them 😂
Really cool research about the inner monologue. I'm with Karl too, I argue with myself all the time but when it comes to quick decisions its more reactive than indecisive.
Hi Mandy, I remember a friend of mine with the nickname One eyed Phil, One night in the pub the girl i was with leaned over to me and asked "Why do they call him One eyed Phil as he has both eyes"? I laughed and explained its biker humour its because there is only one i in Phil,,,,
My mother tongue is spanish but most days I hear more people talking in english (in movies, shows, podcasts and youtube videos) than in spanish, so at least half my inner monologue is in english.
I think in both manners. Sometimes my thoughts are entirely conceptual and just appear without any active effort on my part and with no monologue to accompany them. Other times, I'll take an active interest in a thought and expand on it with an inner monologue. For example, I write code for computer programs, and sometimes, when I'm not even thinking about it, a solution to a problem that had stumped me earlier with just appear in my head. Now, I wasn't consciously thinking about the problem, I had moved on to other thoughts, but somewhere within my mind I was still working out the solution. It's like the thought had been moved to the back burner of my mind while I focused on other things, but when it was done, it re-entered my consciousness. I think that's the distinction you, Ricky, and Karl are talking about. There is conscious thought, where you actively participate in said thought to work through it in your head using some kind of inner monologue, and there's an unconscious thought that enters your mind from somewhere beyond your conscious field of view. That said, I don't think there are really two types of people, ones who think consciously, and ones who do not. I think everyone has both types of thoughts, they just don't pay close enough attention to their own thinking process to notice them when they appear. A goal of many meditation practices is to teach yourself to notice when thoughts just pop into your mind, so that you can attempt to control them and in doing so avoid unwanted distractions. If you don't know how to do that, and try to clear your mind and meditate, you will quickly notice that thoughts will just enter your mind, and you (your consciousness) is not their author.
Realized I don't have an inner monologue and often will have to really try to "think" in words. The best way I can describe it is that my natural thought process is in pictures or "scenes" more than words, so if I'm worried about running late to a doctor's appointment I see a scene of myself hurrying to the office and apologizing to the receptionist and that scene kind of triggers a memory of the conversation I had where we originally scheduled the appointment. I don't see "3pm" but see the person saying "so you'll be here at 3 then?", and very often forget when exactly I have to be places and where. This was fascinating to watch because I realized how often I can see where a conversation happened, see the person speaking to me in my mind's eye, but can't remember exactly what they were saying and forget dates/times constantly because of it. I have to write everything down in my phone immediately or will just forget/have to look it up, similar to your friend! It feels like when I'm talking I'm trying to describe the image I see in my head rather than repeating what a monologue/voice is saying. If someone is telling me a story I am "creating" the scene in my head as they go, and asking questions to fill in the blanks of what I'm looking at, if that makes sense. Again, so interesting to learn other people don't think this way!
Doesn't that take longer than thinking ''I'm running late''? And because you have to go through all that rigmarole to figure out you're running late, isn't it making you even later? BTW, I also don't think out full sentences, and I certainly don't hear a voice, I mainly think conceptually. I would just be aware of the time and that I need to get a move on.
Who else doesn’t have the voice in their head? Lol. It comes out as talking to myself personally when trying to figure something out. But if there is other people in the room, it’s just “knowing” of the task at hand or in the future that I need to do. And remembering it. No one is talking. You just know it.
you should be able to route the whole dialogue when talking to yourself via mouth/ears on an internal loop in your brain.. it's probably something you can learn to do. Maybe talk to yourself with your mouth then try cutting out bits of the sentence (not speaking them) and filling in the gaps mentally or summut
In Detective Fiction the inner monologue is basically used as a narrative device like in Raymond Chandler stories and even Magnum PI to show the guy's mind's workings. I had an inner monolog but, to be fair I was living on mostly eggs at the time.
I can't believe I've managed to miss your video where you finally reach ***The Diary*** for nearly two weeks! Glad you found it as funny as we were all hyping it up to be. On the whole internal monologue thing - you mentioned people without one seeing films/TV shows etc. with voiceovers of character's internal thoughts. Speaking as someone who doesn't have the internal monologue, I always assumed this was just a convention (like a thought bubble in a comic strip) since you couldn't really get across how thoughts work. Of course, it turned out that I was working on the basis of how my thoughts work, as a series of images, abstract diagrams, concepts and emotions rather than structured, 'vocalised' thoughts. The revelation that not everyone's brain operates this way came in school when my best friend and I were talking about the TV show 'Scrubs'. I said something along the lines of how irritating it would be if your brain worked like JD's, with a voice continually commentating on what was going on, being able to have arguments with yourself and having to think out thoughts in whole sentences and he looked at me like I was an alien and said "...but that's how it does happen???" We then spent a while trying to work out which of us was the freak of nature and asked the rest of our friend group and class and it came out that a small majority of us didn't have the monologue (out of 20 or so people something like 12 didn't have the internal monologue and eight did).
It's interesting because I think i'm like Ricky also where I don't have a full inner monologue every day. I just have more conceptual thoughts or triggers that remind me to do things. I do think out scenarios and things I need to do for the day, but it's rarely in full sentences or a whole dialogue. I also don't really talk to myself ever. Maybe my kind of brain is the minority though!
I used to think everyone has that inner voice, constantly, overlapping itself with like ten thoughts at a time. Then someone told me they didn't know what I was talking about. Years later I was diagnosed with ADHD
@Dank Waifu There's a fair bit of overlap between ADHD and autism. Best way I can explain my thoughts is it's like trying to watch 10 TVs at once, all with the sound on
I only have an inner monologue when I'm going through things I wish I could say to people until I settle on something I can say, or when I'm writing. I can make myself think verbally, but hearing myself talk things through takes time, so I dont do it.
I honestly don't think I have an internal monologue. I never really voice out thoughts in my head, thoughts just happen conceptually, I've never formulated a thought using a voice in my head. I can read things out internally, like if I read a sentence, I can kind of read it in my head and "hear" it, but I don't hear a voice reading it out. I just read the words and understand them. I can think using a voice if I try to, but I don't naturally do it.
People are mistaking "inner-monologue" versus dialogue. The point is if someone thinks linguistically, i.e. in words, versus conceptualization as Ricky put it. It's less about whether your argue with yourself and more about if you think using words. Even then its just different ways of expressing thought. the same hardware is under the hood it is just used differently.
How would you replicate music or accents without "The inner voice"? My gut reaction is that we're overcomplicating it, confusing imagination with reaction. Trying to scream louder than the whisper is an interesting passtime!
3 Learning Modes: Actually, humans in general have 3 modes - visual, auditory, and kinesthetic - to process information. Not only that, but we also use these modes to remember and recall information. We all have access to all 3 of these modes, but normally one of them is our dominant mode, to different degrees. Our use of words can be an indication of our dominant mode, depending on the frequency of usage. As a simple example to express understanding, a visual person might say, “I see.” Or, “I imagine so.” “That looks right.” An auditory person, “I hear what you’re saying.” Or, “Sounds right.” A kinesthetic person, “I got it.” Or, “Feels right.” “Touching.” We can also access our non-dominant modes depending on our experience. For example, physical experiences such as a muscle memory from a workout or sport, or the sensation from an illness, etc. Auditory ones - an earworm, or recalling a parent’s angry or happy remark, etc. Visual experiences - the expression on a person’s face, or an image from a horror film or comedy such as “There’s Something About Mary, etc. Perhaps some of those things we’d like to forget.
This was soooo enjoyable!! I couldn't wait to hear what you had to say about the inner monologue thing because you were so enthusiastic to tell us about it lol. I feel like my own inner voice got more dominant and powerful because I tend to spend a lot of time alone. When I was younger and spent a lot less time alone I didn't really have this thoughful voice that can make me overthink and I would be a lot more spontaneous and instinctive, which I miss being now. Maybe my inner monologue just naturally developed with age though and it wasn't due to lifestyle changes. I was impressed that you knew what 'what's your twenty?' meant, I didn't and I've watched this episode several times haha. I was so confident that you would love the diary even though it was so hyped up and it was a pleasure watching you enjoy it and enjoying the whole show. 😍😊
Thank you so much Daniel!!! 🤗 And my inner voice makes me overthink too! 😭😭 And I honestly can't remember why I know the 'what's your 20' thing. Must have been some show I used to watch 🤪🤪
I have ADHD. People like me have a very interesting relationship with inner monologues. Firstly I cannot turn off my inner monologue unless I am stimulated somehow such as with music or any kind of media. Unless I am listening to something I cannot sleep because my constant inner monologue won't let me. The part of our brain that is used for speech is the same part that is needed for an inner monologue and you can see proof of that by trying to speak out loud while saying something else in your head, you'll notice that it's impossible. ADHD affects the inhibition centers of the brain which are, among other things, the parts responsible for us being able to keep our inner monologue inside our head instead of blurting out what we are thinking. Hence we tend to say things on impulse because we have trouble keeping our inner monologue... well inner. Interrupting is common with us while at the same time we hate being interrupted. The inner monologue of an ADHD mind feels like driving a Ferrari, we have hundreds of thoughts a second, but the second we open our mouth it feels like we are stuck in traffic because it's a huge bottleneck to our thinking. The result of it is that we constantly feel unable to articulate our thoughts hence why we ramble on for a long time in order to get every last thought out.
I can have either an inner monologue or conceptual thought, it depends on the situation. Reading and writing for example, as I'm typing now I have to think the words that I want to write and that manifests itself as a monologue; for writing more complex words sometimes it's letter-by-letter. Fine. For most other things that I can think of, all I can really describe it as is a rapid series of blurred images that would only make sense to me, but the images aren't at the forefront of my mind, they're somewhere at the back. It's as if by the time I've thought of the first item of somthing to think or to do in the sequence, the next one has already replaced it. At the end of the sequence, I know what it is that I wanted to think, say, or do. Edit: As for the inner-monologues in TV and films, it makes sense to people who don't have them because it's for exposition purposes. It would be weirder if the characters said what they were thinking out loud.
The internal monologue is a weird one because I think both ways. I can talk in my head but not every thought is through a monologue. And almost all my thoughts are not full sentences. If I'm trying to work though a probably or a scenario I might but individual thoughts aren't spoken to me. And I can still picture things in my mind as well
For me, Mandy, I mostly only have a "verbal" mental monologue if I'm reading, writing or carefully forming a sentence in conversation, and the accent changes depending on who I've been listening to. For instance, right now, I'm hearing these words I'm typing in Stephen Merchant's voice. The rest of the time, and even with the "voice" speaking, it's constant, and constantly morphing music (unless music is playing in the room, or I'm writing or playing music). A huge factor in why I became a musician at 13. And yeah, a thought like the one you mentioned about a doctor's appointment just comes conceptually, like the image of a doctor, then a clock. Right now, The Ricky Gervais Show's theme is on a loop which morphs into Johnny Rivers singing part of the verses to _Secret Agent Man,_ then that morphing into a silly '60s-sounding cue I made for a TV show in 2004.
The thought thing is interesting. I have both. I normally think conceptually, but I talk to myself a lot when I'm trying to figure out something complicated, and I can do that inside my head. I more "feel" the words than hear them, so I can't tell the voice, but it has my accent. Are you saying you can hear the voice? I always interpreted the inner monologue on TV as a screen convention. That it was just the most practical way to illustrate what the person was meant to be thinking. I never thought it was meant to be the character's thoughts actually being spoken out inside their head.
I was impressed you knew about the inner monologue conversation. I have a friend who doesn't have the voice, and I'm sure I sound crazy to her explaining it lol.
Lol, vice versa sounds crazy though too! All depends on what goes on in your particular head. In my friend group of 7 only one doesn't have the monologue and since he is the odd man out, everyone thinks he is crazy! 🤪🤪
Oh my God, he's written it down! 🎶 Edit: ask your friend to remember a telephone number and find a pen and paper to write I down. Or to read something silently Guaranteed he does use his sub-vocal voice. He either just doesn't realise it or doesn't want to admit it because of the association of voices in your and schizophrenia. But the sub-vocal voice and associated brain structure was discussed at uni like any other brain area (Broca's area, the phonological loop) as an area we all had responsible for that inner voice called sub-vocal voice in psychology. And it may sound weird to say he may just not realise it but its crazy the things we miss until it's pointed out! Here in the UK for example, we add phantom 'r' in words for ease of speaking. 99% of Brits will be wondering wtf I'm on about but Americans tend to notice it because they don't do it. 'America is the richest nation on earth' is said by most Brits as 'America ris..' But it's only now that I've pointed it out that they'll try it and realise. The telephone number task should be a trigger for his sub-vocal voice. No one can hold a string of random numbers without repeating it over and over
I just saw the other day that Netlfix made a compilation of several british " Noooar" s (No) 😂😂😂 I hear it all the time, also In Only Fools here how they speak with "F"s 😅🤪
@@MandyCaneLane look out for this too because it truly blew my mind... Americans speak every word clearly, using volume and elongation to point out the key words. Us Brits mumble and miss out words entirely, using normal volume for clarity to emphasis the key words Eg 'I am sorry that I was late, but I was caught in traffic' The key words 'sorry late, caught traffic' So an American would say 'I am SOR-RYY that I was LAA-ATE, but I was CAU-AUGHT in TRAA-FIC' Whereas a Brit would say "Sorry 'z late 'z caught traffic" Completely missing out "I am....that...but"' and smooshing 'I was' into 'z Karls 'aight' is the perfect example. That is 'are you alright?' (standard greeting in UK like 'whats up!' not meaning 'omg you look terrible are you okay?!") smooshed to "y'alright" smooshed to 'alright' smooshed to "aigh' " 🤯 It's SO weird
Dear Mandy, It’s my opinion that you personally add an extra 20% to the reaction itself. Your personal stories & thoughts are great to hear & as always that wonderful smile is just so endearing. Best wishes ❤️👍🍀
That was so interesting, your explanation about the inner monologue. I've often wondered why Ricky couldn't understand it, I just thought obviously we have a voice in our heads wittering on constantly in our own voice and accent. I've never realised that some people don't have that. Just be kind of lonely at times but peaceful too.
Yessss, I've been looking forward to this one. I saw it was out a few hours back but I thought "I'm gonna get a nice drink, lay back, relax and enjoy this one properly!" 😀
It was good fun! I'm looking forward to the end of monkey news though, it's the only feature where the surprise twist is that there's no twist, and it was a monkey all along. Karl's Diary eventually replaces Monkey News entirely, thankfully 🙂.
when you realise there is an "off" switch for thought, look for it, find the off switch for inner dialogue, life gets so peaceful, and yea, i think in concepts, without words, its like an energy sensation and i i just know what i mean, its weird!
Explaining you have 'Inner Monologue' to most people is like trying to convince them there are 'Ghosts' or 'Aliens', if they have never experienced it... so they will never understand or believe you. I literally don't only constantly talk to myself in my head... hear my voice in my accent, which by the way I have more interesting conversations than talking to most people, but quite often have arguments with myself as well !! Such as if I've done something stupid, say taken the wrong motorway exit, I will start hearing, ''you stupid fkr, why are you such a dumbass... etc, etc'', then this other me says ''Whoa take it easy on him, it's a an easy mistake, that sign was way too late, and a fkn truck was in the way of getting over''. How you could ever get someone who has never experienced 'Inner Monologue' to believe that is possible... would be impossible !!, and I get it !!, it must seem ridiculous and unbelievable, yet it happens, sorry but you're missing out, I can pass hours in conversation with myself, and it is amazing for problem-solving, resolving issues, making plans, formulating ideas, etc. I did read that people who do have Inner monologue are usually more intelligent that's why it happens, but let's not argue about that, we have different abilities in other areas.
I can think all 3 ways, inner monolog, visualizations, and conceptually. I switch between them depending on the situation I'm imagining. Conceptually and visualization is always faster. Using the monolog or dialog is like a low bit rate version of the thoughts. Like with the late to the doctor example, all the information you have in the sentence "oh no I'm late, I'm supposed to be at the doctor at 3, but I forgot to set the alarm and got stuck in traffic and then got unlucky with the long red light. Damn, I can't believe I'm gonna be the person that causes everyone to have to wait 45 mins for the doctor to finally come in. Yadda yadda." All that is just a single thought that happens at the same time. I usually only use words in my head if I'm imagining telling my thoughts to someone else, or if I've gone over the concept part a few times and can't shake the thought so I just cycle over the information in various ways, and then the sentences and visualizations happen as I'm contemplating.
We have both inner monologue & the conceptual style. Most actions & reactions don't need words. I moved from UK to USA & my inner monologue turned American. Still me but with the full American accent. It started bleeding through my actual speech until I visited England & it went back to normal & the American version never reappeared.
. o O (that's weird, I'm evesdropping in on this conversation and one fella said "how many candles are you burning?" and the lass said "29", I can't work this out at all)
I always wondered this but I thought of it more from children who can't speak yet. Then I realised some adult people don't even have an inner monologue. I asked my girlfriend who is bilingual and she said depending on what country she is in depends on what language her inner mobologue is. And what language she dreams in. She has dreams where her family who can't speak English will speak it in her dreams. Fascinating to me
My dad use call me James the jammy dodger, a Jammy dodger is a two layered shortcake with jam, strawberry or raspberry jam in the middle. I was also called shaggy from scooby doo do my goatee beard
I definitely, think, I want an 'off switch' for my inner monologue... or do I 😂 ... the shows animators have won plenty of wards ... your video is honestly the best reaction everrr to one of these, you just keep nailing it with everthing Mandy, great work ... have a great one whatever you're doing ☺
With the inner monologue in movies, I thought it was just a way to show the audience what the character's thinking Would never have occurred to me that people actually think with an inner monologue
I can choose to do both. I can talk to myself inside my head like reading to myself or see concepts and images etc. I'm sure everybody can do that. It's just that thinking words to yourself isn't as quick, and that is the point Ricky is making
They're definitely distinctly separate features, you don't need an inner monologue for playing sports or those kinds of things, or playing chess, but you still need to think, then if you're performing on piano, it's much better if you don't think at all, that's like the goal of zen meditation, not to stop thinking, but if you can shut that voice up, you might be able to think.
I agree. I have the concept first and then have to translate it into words - where some of the meaning gets lost in translation but useful if you wish to talk to someone else about it.
Yeah I feel like most of this conversation is just people on both sides misunderstanding each other. You couldn't possibly verbalise through *every* thought you have. It would take forever and you would never get anything done. So people who say they verbalise everything don't actually do that, and they know how it feels to think instinctively. I'm sure some people do it more than others but it's still going to be a mix of the two for most people. It's just something we do so automatically that we never really think about these things. So it's hard to catch yourself in the middle of a thought to understand how often you really verbalise things.
On the Stephen Hawking bit, apparently he did think in the robot voice. He was offered to have the voice changed to something closer to his real voice and he declined it because after so many years the robot voice had become his voice.
I'm in both camps on the thought front. When I get stressed my inner monolog becomes more obvious but if I catch myself I can tell it to quieten down and go back to conceptual mode. My inner monolog is a sign of me not enjoying something. Or if I want to practice a conversation I may choose to word it internally but that's a clear choice to use it for that specific purpose.
As for how explaining how thoughts form for non-monolog people, it's like seeing a diagram and getting an overall picture immediately without having to break it down into its constituent parts. It's just there. Like when you get in a car you don't need to know how all the hundreds of little parts work. It just works as a whole, but if you want to you can still examine it in detail. It's just not needed most of the time.
I don’t know if you get a lot of comments saying not to pause the video and talk, but you apologise a lot for it. I really like it. It can be hard for solo reactors to express their thoughts at the end of a video without a discussion partner, so we only get about two minutes of vague insights. But I like your way of doing it. We get little stories and thoughts along the way. Only discovered your channel yesterday and have been binging and instantly subscribed. I’m shocked you don’t have more subscribers. You’re a delight to watch. Would love to hear more about Argentina as I’m quite ignorant.
Thank you so much Sara-Jayne!! And yeah, I have gotten many mean comments about it, so I am glad you enjoy it!! And if I don't get a thought out when it pops in my head, I will forget by the end of the video 😅🤗🤗
I often have good little chats with myself 🤣 I remember once having a "thought"-argument with myself, but speaking out loud. I was out on a walk and didn't notice two people sat next to a tree at the side of me 😱 They must have thought I was a right weirdo 🤣 But... did they think it conceptually or inner monologue-ly 🤔😆
My sister's nickname was Spud, our little sister's couldn't say Tracy it came out as Tattie, tatties are slang for potatoes same as the word Spud, so Tracy became Tattie but ended up as Spud
The bit about thinking got me thinking, Mandy! lol Generally I think in images with a few words thrown in to emphasis certain aspects. This allows one to make quick decisions and assess situations immediately. Of course, when making more complicated decisions, one is more likely to have a an internal dialogue about the pros and cons of possible choices. Not sure about accents though! haha My brain hurts now so see you later! 👀😂😂😂
"The cafe was called Tattoos. The fella that owned it didn't have any tattoos. But we never saw his wife". Don't know why but this is my favourite Karl snippet of all time.
Language is a recent construct in our history so if you think about it a inner monologue is the weirder of the two 😅 plus def people who have never heard their own voice
I have an inner monologue but I think about me talking about something to someone or a group people and someone else's speech pattern and their words they might use.
Damn. I think conceptually like Ricky and just figured everyone did the same. I was always a believer that voices in your head meant you were crazy. The best way to describe your doctor office example is you just realize you’re late because you had it in your brain that you should’ve been there at 3:00. It’s instinctual like slapping a bug that lands on you. I would ask someone with inner monologues when a bug lands on your face, does your mind just give you the immediate thought to slap or waive at it? Or do you hear yourself going “hang on a minute, there is a bug on my face, better slap at it” ?
Thank you for explaining! With inner monologue reflexes and many thoughts just happen. But when digging deeper in certain thoughts it is done with a voice you "hear" in your head. Most people have told me they constantly use it to make up conversations in their head, I am the same TBH. But back to the bug thing. It would be an immediate slap and then you would "hear" in your head "eeew" or "this little bugger" or whatever your post reaction would be. Hope that made sense!!
@@MandyCaneLane that makes total sense! These convos would be interesting to sit down with a group of people who think both ways. Anyway, I like your reaction and you got a new sub :)
I don't 'vocalise' my thoughts except when typing or writing something. I'm with Ricky on this I don't think in proper sentences thoughts are just concepts. I don't think out the sentence 'I need to go to the doctor at 3pm', I just know it. But I think this is just a difference between how people explain their thoughts, rather than a real difference in brain function. But how would you ever know, the act of thinking is a very hard thing to explain and I think people just go for the easiest analogy i.e. speaking. (I don't include intrusive thoughts in that, or 'hearing voices' in terms of mental illness which I know is a real thing)
These people definitely don't think in words the way they believe they do. Thoughts are instant, and conceptual as ricky said. My brain doesn't need to waste 5 seconds thinking the words "I'm feeling hungry, so I'm going to go in the kitchen to make a sandwich." That would feel like a disability lol. It's just an instant thought and my brain understands what I mean. The 'inner monologue' thing she refers to is different. Everyone rehearses conversations in their head, arguments with other people etc. This isn't what Ricky is talking about.
I don't think you fully understand how weird Karl thinks his brain works. What you explained makes sense and is true from our understanding of how consciousness works for some people (an inner monologue; a dialog between two chambers of the brain - i.e. the bicameral mind), but with Karl (And how he understands all that) it's completely different and you'll get why Ricky thinks its weird in a later episode when Karl delves deeper into how he visualizes all this. It's funny and weird, but to his credit, it also became the basis for a Black Mirror episode some several years later (not necessarily because of him, but rather because that's how a lot of people imagine how their minds work).
My brain is the same. The best way to explain it to people is to tell them to watch an episode, Dexter! One of the best tv series ever, & also YOU on Netflix, I think the copied Dexter in that way.x
A smart watch with basic biometric monitoring functions is a far cry from a predictive watch that (somehow......just pop it on your wrist) predicts when you'll die based on who knows what criteria.
It depends on the criteria you're using to judge it. Karl suggested that, if the watch says you have days to live, you should go to see a doctor. So, he's proposing a watch that monitors the state of your health. You have the choice to take action to lower the probability of imminent death. Admittedly, Karl pushed the concept into the realm of absurdity, but the basis of the idea is there.
Hmm, I'm a "doing" learner, or at least visual. I think the "remember you have an appointment" thing, I think I do quickly fast forward to say 3pm and see myself at the doctor's, then backtrack to say where I'll be at 2.30 and imagine leaving that place then. Then imagine being at the doctor's, what will I need to have with me etc. And plan it while creating memories that should remind me of it etc. Other times when I'm reflecting on something that happened in the past (years ago, 5 seconds ago, doesn't matter) I'll have my own voice trying out different possibilies in real time. So a mixture of different methods, depending on situation.
@@jakemorrison8507 I'll likely check it out on streetview so I know what to expect visually. I kinda drive it virtually and then I've already done it and learned it. Not the whole route, just anything that looks tricky or just the final destination I guess.
DarkStar wrote "Visual learning is such a garbage myth. You've been misled to think you have something that doesn't exist. Whether you did that to yourself or not is what you really need to find the answer to." then deleted it or it got deleted. I do think humans evolved as visual learners though...you know, before language and writing......
I have that voice inside of my head, don't everyone have that? I thought this is just a function of the human brain. And let me tell ya my voice is rude.
Lmao Victor! Nope, not everyone has it, there are many different ways the brain works. Also some people have trouble visualising images inside their head, when others can do it with ease. When it gets rude tell your voice Mandy says to shut up! 😂😅
This episode articulates really well that Ricky and Steve are sometimes really limited in their thoughts compared to Karl. They just assume that no-one hears an internal monologue because they don't and can't accept Karl's point of view for a minute. It happens a lot where Karl's freedom of thought seemingly allows him to see things they can't get to. It also happens a lot with Karl's understanding of his brain and how there are different levels of consciousness. It's just his lack of words that prevents him from explaining it.
Exactly this You know the 'how would I know which one I am?' 'that must be the stupidest thing anyone has ever said' Karls spot on. Read the Wikipedia on teleporter paradox and Derek Parfit's version with clones
True, like when Karl differentiates between ‘him’ and his brain, he is just making a delineation between his conscious and subconscious mind. We all do things subconsciously, or automatically out of habit, which is why he sometimes says “Am I in charge, or is me brain in charge”? Often he just lacks the words to properly say what he means.
@@findlestick 👍 'Are we in control of our brain or is it in control of us' is actually a very philosophical discussion on free will that Sam Harris discussed all the time! MRI scans show that our 'brains' have made a choice before we as conscious beings realise we've made it.
The problem is that Karl spouts so much nonsense so often, that when he does eventually say something sensible, Ricky and Stephen are conditioned to assume that it's wrong, or at the very least has been misinterpreted and misrepresented by Karl. Years of listening to things like Educating Ricky and Monkey News have made questioning everything Karl says their default response. Do not forget that this a man who thought that global warming wasn't an issue because glaciers falling into the ocean would just cause everything to freeze again, or that you could actually buy property on the Moon (which he did). It is also, like you say, a matter of Karl not being able to articulate his thoughts, and Ricky has acknowledged this several times. In this show, he mentions at one point that Karl could have Stephen Hawking sitting beside him whispering entirely true statements in his ear, but when Karl regurgitates it, it comes out as gobbledygook. I also wouldn't label what Karl has "freedom of thought". If anything, it's a _restriction_ of thought, as there are some ideas (like the infinite monkeys with typewriters concept) that Karl will seemingly never be able to grasp. He's so inarticulate and uneducated (because he dropped out of school at 15 and was hardly ever there beforehand) that some ideas are just simply too much for him to work out, and he's admitted before (on XFM) that he sometimes avoids thinking about complex ideas and questions that are put to him because thinking *physically makes his head hurt.*
Wait what? People hear their own voice inside their head when they think? When I think, sure sometimes if dwelling on something the thought gets verbalised/converted to words, but it's still done silently, as if I _read_ the words not as if I _heard_ them. Wait… when you read, do you hear a voice, too?! 😂 That would drive me crazy, a quiet tinnitus is bad enough.
Yeah, we read ''outloud'' with a voice in our head, any voice you want. If your creative and good at it, you can use your favorite orator for that genre or just your own, and you'll say it faster than you could in your own voice out loud and won't mess up with your tongue placement because you are not using it. You can still mess up, just not the type where it is because you didn't use your mouth and vocal cords and breath correctly. You never thought about what your parents would say and hear their voice using previous tones they used with you in the past?
The issue here is that they don’t understand that inner dialogue and thoughts are two entirely different brain functions. Inner dialogue is an largely an automatic mechanism. I have to pull out my textbooks to really get into the evolutionary purpose of the inner dialogue…. But basically think of your inner dialogue as a room mate. Your inner dialogue is not the self, because we can observe it. If you’re observing it, it can’t be the self because the self is what observes.
@@arifeannor9573 Oh I can imagine how things sound, but I don't actually _hear_ them when I imagine them. Like when I think of blue things, I don't see blue. Perhaps we're talking about the same thing, but I have experienced audio-hallucinations where you actually think you hear a voice for real, loud enough to check if you have company, when your brain does that, you realise there's a difference between hearing things and just imagining how things sound.
But if I imagine a voice when I'm reading something, then I'm reading slowly, if I stop the voice and just read, I can read much faster. Same with thoughts, you can think really fast if you don't resort to verbalisation, like if you're thinking when playing chess, there shouldn't be much in the way of words when thinking what to do.
@@RustinChole Oh, I have an inner dialogue, but it's more like telepathy than speech, if that makes sense - it doesn't say anything, but I know what it's thinking. It may be because my mother had post natal depression when I was born so wasn't very communicative. 🤔
Imagine a conversation with a travel agent: "Is the destination a big rock?" 😂I can imagine the look on the travel agent's face. Stephen Hawking died in 2018. I wonder the same thing. When Hawking was around, the inner monologue .... was it his voice from when he could speak, or was it the computer's voice, since much of his life he communicated like that? Cause after a while, you get used to the current situation, whatever you're going through, if it lasts long enough. THAT was HIS plight for so long. So, I had the same question. This show cracks me up. I bet Ricky was like "Let me create a show where every episode is us laughing at Karl." :D Nicknames ....... My nickname is Jay. The animation enhances the show, cause they can show the story while the hosts are telling the story. Wise crack jokes visually as they're trying to explain verbally. I kinda mentioned before, but my joke about this show is me trying to speak deep with the voice over at the beginning. That guy must be a base, if not baritone. I'm baritone.
Please stop apologising for what you believe is rambling. This is definitely the most interesting part or parts of your reaction videos. I always got confused with Ricky mentions the thought just appears it is conceptual. I tried to change the volume in my monologue thoughts and I believe it is simulated as I cannot damage my ears with high-pitched screams or overdrive music. Interesting stuff, thank you. But please stop apologising for stopping the video and sharing your thoughts. 🎉
I don't have an inner monologue. I don't hear a voice. The best way I can describe it is, you know when you get to know someone very well, they can tell you to sit down etc with just a look. No words were said but you know what they said with the look. It's a bit like that. As for the thing in flims, they have to voice their inner thoughts or non of the viewers would know what the actor is thinking.
Interesting! Thank you for sharing! And I imagine there could be other creative ways to portray a characters thoughts, but since monologues seem to be the more common way people think, it is the go to!
If you can't get enough of inner monologues you'll love Peep Show.
I love that show
@@Alex-d7m especially if it then created one in them.....with David Mitchell's voice!
what about mutes .. how do they think ... mind blown
„Susan didnt love when i said her arse had the same problem“ One of my favorite quotes.
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The little lean forward they do and resting their heads on their hands staring at Karl in the intro, we are essentially doing that when watching people like you discover Karl 😄
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The best way to think of a lack of inner monologue is likr a puzzle piece clicking into place
Samuel Pepys was the chief secretary/administrator of the British Navy in the 17th century.
He famously kept a diary for 10 years about historical events that happened at the time.
Thank you for explaining 🤗
I think there is an abridged dramatised version available as a free podcast somewhere
10:00 when I first watched this I was at uni, I'm now a psychotherapist with my own private practice - so I have an interest in these things to begin with, but when I heard this conversation I could not resist going down a rabbit hole in the universities digital library - it's actually more common to have an inner monologue and assumed to be a variation on a condition called 'Aphantasia' if you don't - while the actual condition means you quite literally cannot imagine anything, in milder forms it simply reduces the ability to mentally verbalise. That being said, it doesn't seem to have any apparent drawbacks in real life... people who have it simply find other ways to engage in similar behaviors. Worth mentioning that there is not a strong body of work behind this subject and more research is needed.
@ProudOfYourRoots It's certainly possible, but I don't think so, many people who have 'inner monologues' have no idea that others do not and vice versa, because how could you if you have never asked? and how often would this come up in a typical conversation? it's often taken for granted. Also, as far as I'm aware, the term 'monologue' isn't grammatically reliant on the lack of a response or reply, it is just the act of 'one person speaking' derived from the ancient Greek words 'mono' roughly translated to 'singular' and 'logue' roughly 'discourse' i.e. 'singular discourse'. It is essentially just a term which defines the act of a single speaker, speaking, and the presupposition 'inner' would suggest that 'inner monologue' is, in it's literal meaning, 'the act of a single person speaking inside'. That's my understanding of it anyway but I'm not a linguistic expert so it's possible I may be mistaken. My point really is just that the conversation seems to be coherent and legible as it is, so why would we assume they mean anything other than what they are saying.
- On the topic of Schizophrenia, 'hearing voices', in one's head, is a commonly purported symptom however, generally these 'voices' are not perceived to be voices of the 'self', at least not the identity within which the 'patient' is existing when they are 'hearing' the voices, the voices are more commonly those of alter-ego's, alternate personas, or mental representations of people/beings whom the patient has concocted to make sense of thoughts/feelings they are highly stimulated by.
@ProudOfYourRoots you're right I'm certain he tells jokes where his inner monologue is the subject! would be great to see his response to all the unanswered questions from the podcast, what a brilliant idea xD
Ok, so I think I may have this too now (because of the part I just paused to check the comments was rather confusing to me...)
People literally 'hear' voices in their own head?
Also, I can not picture things in my head when I close my eyes, which a few people have told me isn't normal.
Hmm...
@@uniformedchaos9835 yeah it was strange for me when I found out not everyone speaks to themselves in their head to be honest 😂 well before I started studying psychology and I thought either I was crazy or they were brain dead. But realistically, its just a difference in thought processes. For example I was just playing a strategy game now, and I was trying to figure out how to win the battle, so I asked and answered questions in my own head as if I were explaining them to somebody else and gauging their response. I won the battle anyway, against long odds, so whether im crazy or not im happy with the out come 😂 - and to answer Karl's question, yes I think in my accent
I am a bit late to the conversation here, but the way it works for me - I am one of the "thoughts as a concept" people - is that if I am late, I just look at the clock, and the awareness of being late sets in in my head. But it is not verbalized inside of my mind in a sentence, in words. I am simply familiar with the concept of being late, and I realize that this concept applies in that particular situation, so now I am hurrying.
As far as inner monologues in movies go, this is how it works in my case: I *can* verbalize a thought inside of my head if I wanted to. It's just an extra step which is not necessary most of the time. So, I thought in movies there is simply no good way to represent people's thoughts unless you use that extra step of verbalizing the thought of the protagonist and make him formulate it in words. So, I always thought that it was just the best way to represent a protagonists thought process, even if it involved this extra unneccesary step of formulating thoughts in words.
Thoughts are conceptual by nature, our development of language as a species came after our ability to think and a child who is isolated and does not develop any languaage literacy will still have thoughts.
Whether you have an internal monologue is a secondary aspect that helps you formulate and work through those thoughts and ideas.
i have been a huge fan of this show since it first aired on HBO..it has helped me get thru some immensely dark times in my life...Ricky put it on YT as a "gift" for everyone to view..God Bless em
God bless him indeed! 🙌🏻
@@MandyCaneLane RG said on more then one occasion that his discovery of Karl P and him bringing him to the masses...is "His gift to the 🌎" Also..im sure youve seen The Office? of course everyone knows the original was made in England by him.
@@MandyCaneLane if you havent seen the Office i bet they would make dope react vids too
Ricky doesn't need an inner monologue as he's always talking anyway. Not a quiet moment in sight. He seems like the kind of person who's almost never alone with his thoughts.
Love the reaction. Don't apologise for pausing Mandy if you have something to say, tell us your thoughts etc . ITS your channel. Take care 🙂🤗
Yep and it helps solidify the new knowledge if you then explain it to someone else 🙃
There'd be no point watching reactions if it was just someone sat quietly in the corner of the video throughout. Reactions videos are for people to add input and context and tell ancedotes etc.
Thank you Neil!!! 🤗🤗🤗
You then, would be surprised at how many comments I get telling me to stop pausing, stop talking, just watch the clip and shut up! 😂😅🤪
@@MandyCaneLane I notice them on every reaction channel and I always say the same thing to the person reacting. They're never happy lol. If you pause to voice your reaction, they complain. If you don't pause and you miss something because of it, they complain. Just ignore them 😂
I consider people with no inner monologue NPCs. I don't know how people can go through life without one.
The amount of times that Karl Pilkington ignored when Ricky Gervais was taking the Piss out of him was hilarious😂
That number of times seems to increase with every episode 😅😅😅
Glad to know inner monologues are more common, I felt like I was stupid watching this the first time 😂
Lmao! They were so quick to judge Karl!
I'm always saying to myself "inner monologues aren't real, you fool"....
@@miff227 😶
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I am always being sarcastic to myself,in my head.
I have some of the best conversations🤪
Brilliant reaction Mandy 😂
Oh yeah, for sure some of the best conversations I have ever had 🤪
Really cool research about the inner monologue. I'm with Karl too, I argue with myself all the time but when it comes to quick decisions its more reactive than indecisive.
Hi Mandy, I remember a friend of mine with the nickname One eyed Phil, One night in the pub the girl i was with leaned over to me and asked "Why do they call him One eyed Phil as he has both eyes"? I laughed and explained its biker humour its because there is only one i in Phil,,,,
😂😂😂😂 I thought your response to her was going to be : "Exactly" 😅🤪
My mother tongue is spanish but most days I hear more people talking in english (in movies, shows, podcasts and youtube videos) than in spanish, so at least half my inner monologue is in english.
It happens 😂
I think in both manners. Sometimes my thoughts are entirely conceptual and just appear without any active effort on my part and with no monologue to accompany them. Other times, I'll take an active interest in a thought and expand on it with an inner monologue. For example, I write code for computer programs, and sometimes, when I'm not even thinking about it, a solution to a problem that had stumped me earlier with just appear in my head. Now, I wasn't consciously thinking about the problem, I had moved on to other thoughts, but somewhere within my mind I was still working out the solution. It's like the thought had been moved to the back burner of my mind while I focused on other things, but when it was done, it re-entered my consciousness.
I think that's the distinction you, Ricky, and Karl are talking about. There is conscious thought, where you actively participate in said thought to work through it in your head using some kind of inner monologue, and there's an unconscious thought that enters your mind from somewhere beyond your conscious field of view. That said, I don't think there are really two types of people, ones who think consciously, and ones who do not. I think everyone has both types of thoughts, they just don't pay close enough attention to their own thinking process to notice them when they appear. A goal of many meditation practices is to teach yourself to notice when thoughts just pop into your mind, so that you can attempt to control them and in doing so avoid unwanted distractions. If you don't know how to do that, and try to clear your mind and meditate, you will quickly notice that thoughts will just enter your mind, and you (your consciousness) is not their author.
Realized I don't have an inner monologue and often will have to really try to "think" in words. The best way I can describe it is that my natural thought process is in pictures or "scenes" more than words, so if I'm worried about running late to a doctor's appointment I see a scene of myself hurrying to the office and apologizing to the receptionist and that scene kind of triggers a memory of the conversation I had where we originally scheduled the appointment. I don't see "3pm" but see the person saying "so you'll be here at 3 then?", and very often forget when exactly I have to be places and where. This was fascinating to watch because I realized how often I can see where a conversation happened, see the person speaking to me in my mind's eye, but can't remember exactly what they were saying and forget dates/times constantly because of it. I have to write everything down in my phone immediately or will just forget/have to look it up, similar to your friend!
It feels like when I'm talking I'm trying to describe the image I see in my head rather than repeating what a monologue/voice is saying. If someone is telling me a story I am "creating" the scene in my head as they go, and asking questions to fill in the blanks of what I'm looking at, if that makes sense. Again, so interesting to learn other people don't think this way!
Doesn't that take longer than thinking ''I'm running late''? And because you have to go through all that rigmarole to figure out you're running late, isn't it making you even later?
BTW, I also don't think out full sentences, and I certainly don't hear a voice, I mainly think conceptually. I would just be aware of the time and that I need to get a move on.
Who else doesn’t have the voice in their head? Lol. It comes out as talking to myself personally when trying to figure something out. But if there is other people in the room, it’s just “knowing” of the task at hand or in the future that I need to do. And remembering it. No one is talking. You just know it.
you should be able to route the whole dialogue when talking to yourself via mouth/ears on an internal loop in your brain.. it's probably something you can learn to do. Maybe talk to yourself with your mouth then try cutting out bits of the sentence (not speaking them) and filling in the gaps mentally or summut
In Detective Fiction the inner monologue is basically used as a narrative device like in Raymond Chandler stories and even Magnum PI to show the guy's mind's workings. I had an inner monolog but, to be fair I was living on mostly eggs at the time.
Eggs!? Eggs scare me.. there might be something inside the egg!
My sympathies and respects to your lower digestive system.
@@Wagoo Tell Richard Attenborough!
I can't believe I've managed to miss your video where you finally reach ***The Diary*** for nearly two weeks! Glad you found it as funny as we were all hyping it up to be.
On the whole internal monologue thing - you mentioned people without one seeing films/TV shows etc. with voiceovers of character's internal thoughts. Speaking as someone who doesn't have the internal monologue, I always assumed this was just a convention (like a thought bubble in a comic strip) since you couldn't really get across how thoughts work. Of course, it turned out that I was working on the basis of how my thoughts work, as a series of images, abstract diagrams, concepts and emotions rather than structured, 'vocalised' thoughts. The revelation that not everyone's brain operates this way came in school when my best friend and I were talking about the TV show 'Scrubs'. I said something along the lines of how irritating it would be if your brain worked like JD's, with a voice continually commentating on what was going on, being able to have arguments with yourself and having to think out thoughts in whole sentences and he looked at me like I was an alien and said "...but that's how it does happen???" We then spent a while trying to work out which of us was the freak of nature and asked the rest of our friend group and class and it came out that a small majority of us didn't have the monologue (out of 20 or so people something like 12 didn't have the internal monologue and eight did).
It's interesting because I think i'm like Ricky also where I don't have a full inner monologue every day. I just have more conceptual thoughts or triggers that remind me to do things. I do think out scenarios and things I need to do for the day, but it's rarely in full sentences or a whole dialogue. I also don't really talk to myself ever. Maybe my kind of brain is the minority though!
When I found out I thought it was super interesting! Thank you for sharing!!! 🤗🤗
I used to think everyone has that inner voice, constantly, overlapping itself with like ten thoughts at a time. Then someone told me they didn't know what I was talking about. Years later I was diagnosed with ADHD
@Dank Waifu There's a fair bit of overlap between ADHD and autism.
Best way I can explain my thoughts is it's like trying to watch 10 TVs at once, all with the sound on
I'm with you regarding the animation. Underappreciated, but it adds so much.
My thought process is like Ricky's. I've never had an inner monologue. Thoughts just appear, like a relax.
Very interesting!
I only have an inner monologue when I'm going through things I wish I could say to people until I settle on something I can say, or when I'm writing.
I can make myself think verbally, but hearing myself talk things through takes time, so I dont do it.
I honestly don't think I have an internal monologue. I never really voice out thoughts in my head, thoughts just happen conceptually, I've never formulated a thought using a voice in my head. I can read things out internally, like if I read a sentence, I can kind of read it in my head and "hear" it, but I don't hear a voice reading it out. I just read the words and understand them. I can think using a voice if I try to, but I don't naturally do it.
Thank you for explaining!!! 🤗🤗
People are mistaking "inner-monologue" versus dialogue. The point is if someone thinks linguistically, i.e. in words, versus conceptualization as Ricky put it. It's less about whether your argue with yourself and more about if you think using words. Even then its just different ways of expressing thought. the same hardware is under the hood it is just used differently.
How would you replicate music or accents without "The inner voice"? My gut reaction is that we're overcomplicating it, confusing imagination with reaction. Trying to scream louder than the whisper is an interesting passtime!
3 Learning Modes:
Actually, humans in general have 3 modes - visual, auditory, and kinesthetic - to process information. Not only that, but we also use these modes to remember and recall information.
We all have access to all 3 of these modes, but normally one of them is our dominant mode, to different degrees. Our use of words can be an indication of our dominant mode, depending on the frequency of usage. As a simple example to express understanding, a visual person might say, “I see.” Or, “I imagine so.” “That looks right.” An auditory person, “I hear what you’re saying.” Or, “Sounds right.” A kinesthetic person, “I got it.” Or, “Feels right.” “Touching.”
We can also access our non-dominant modes depending on our experience. For example, physical experiences such as a muscle memory from a workout or sport, or the sensation from an illness, etc. Auditory ones - an earworm, or recalling a parent’s angry or happy remark, etc. Visual experiences - the expression on a person’s face, or an image from a horror film or comedy such as “There’s Something About Mary, etc. Perhaps some of those things we’d like to forget.
This was soooo enjoyable!! I couldn't wait to hear what you had to say about the inner monologue thing because you were so enthusiastic to tell us about it lol. I feel like my own inner voice got more dominant and powerful because I tend to spend a lot of time alone. When I was younger and spent a lot less time alone I didn't really have this thoughful voice that can make me overthink and I would be a lot more spontaneous and instinctive, which I miss being now. Maybe my inner monologue just naturally developed with age though and it wasn't due to lifestyle changes. I was impressed that you knew what 'what's your twenty?' meant, I didn't and I've watched this episode several times haha. I was so confident that you would love the diary even though it was so hyped up and it was a pleasure watching you enjoy it and enjoying the whole show. 😍😊
Thank you so much Daniel!!! 🤗 And my inner voice makes me overthink too! 😭😭 And I honestly can't remember why I know the 'what's your 20' thing. Must have been some show I used to watch 🤪🤪
@@MandyCaneLane Haha yea they can be annoying especially when they won't shut up late at night 😬 Have a great day! ☺
I have ADHD. People like me have a very interesting relationship with inner monologues. Firstly I cannot turn off my inner monologue unless I am stimulated somehow such as with music or any kind of media. Unless I am listening to something I cannot sleep because my constant inner monologue won't let me. The part of our brain that is used for speech is the same part that is needed for an inner monologue and you can see proof of that by trying to speak out loud while saying something else in your head, you'll notice that it's impossible. ADHD affects the inhibition centers of the brain which are, among other things, the parts responsible for us being able to keep our inner monologue inside our head instead of blurting out what we are thinking. Hence we tend to say things on impulse because we have trouble keeping our inner monologue... well inner. Interrupting is common with us while at the same time we hate being interrupted.
The inner monologue of an ADHD mind feels like driving a Ferrari, we have hundreds of thoughts a second, but the second we open our mouth it feels like we are stuck in traffic because it's a huge bottleneck to our thinking. The result of it is that we constantly feel unable to articulate our thoughts hence why we ramble on for a long time in order to get every last thought out.
Tony Banks was a British Labour MP who died suddenly on holiday in 2006.
Oh that makes sense. I thought he was talking about the keyboard player for genesis. 😂
I can have either an inner monologue or conceptual thought, it depends on the situation. Reading and writing for example, as I'm typing now I have to think the words that I want to write and that manifests itself as a monologue; for writing more complex words sometimes it's letter-by-letter. Fine. For most other things that I can think of, all I can really describe it as is a rapid series of blurred images that would only make sense to me, but the images aren't at the forefront of my mind, they're somewhere at the back. It's as if by the time I've thought of the first item of somthing to think or to do in the sequence, the next one has already replaced it. At the end of the sequence, I know what it is that I wanted to think, say, or do.
Edit: As for the inner-monologues in TV and films, it makes sense to people who don't have them because it's for exposition purposes. It would be weirder if the characters said what they were thinking out loud.
It is the only diary anyone ever needs to hear.
The internal monologue is a weird one because I think both ways. I can talk in my head but not every thought is through a monologue. And almost all my thoughts are not full sentences. If I'm trying to work though a probably or a scenario I might but individual thoughts aren't spoken to me. And I can still picture things in my mind as well
Yeah its the full sentence part that throws me off!
For me, Mandy, I mostly only have a "verbal" mental monologue if I'm reading, writing or carefully forming a sentence in conversation, and the accent changes depending on who I've been listening to. For instance, right now, I'm hearing these words I'm typing in Stephen Merchant's voice. The rest of the time, and even with the "voice" speaking, it's constant, and constantly morphing music (unless music is playing in the room, or I'm writing or playing music). A huge factor in why I became a musician at 13. And yeah, a thought like the one you mentioned about a doctor's appointment just comes conceptually, like the image of a doctor, then a clock.
Right now, The Ricky Gervais Show's theme is on a loop which morphs into Johnny Rivers singing part of the verses to _Secret Agent Man,_ then that morphing into a silly '60s-sounding cue I made for a TV show in 2004.
The thought thing is interesting. I have both. I normally think conceptually, but I talk to myself a lot when I'm trying to figure out something complicated, and I can do that inside my head. I more "feel" the words than hear them, so I can't tell the voice, but it has my accent. Are you saying you can hear the voice?
I always interpreted the inner monologue on TV as a screen convention. That it was just the most practical way to illustrate what the person was meant to be thinking. I never thought it was meant to be the character's thoughts actually being spoken out inside their head.
I was impressed you knew about the inner monologue conversation. I have a friend who doesn't have the voice, and I'm sure I sound crazy to her explaining it lol.
Lol, vice versa sounds crazy though too! All depends on what goes on in your particular head. In my friend group of 7 only one doesn't have the monologue and since he is the odd man out, everyone thinks he is crazy! 🤪🤪
Oh my God, he's written it down! 🎶
Edit: ask your friend to remember a telephone number and find a pen and paper to write I down. Or to read something silently
Guaranteed he does use his sub-vocal voice. He either just doesn't realise it or doesn't want to admit it because of the association of voices in your and schizophrenia. But the sub-vocal voice and associated brain structure was discussed at uni like any other brain area (Broca's area, the phonological loop) as an area we all had responsible for that inner voice called sub-vocal voice in psychology.
And it may sound weird to say he may just not realise it but its crazy the things we miss until it's pointed out!
Here in the UK for example, we add phantom 'r' in words for ease of speaking. 99% of Brits will be wondering wtf I'm on about but Americans tend to notice it because they don't do it.
'America is the richest nation on earth' is said by most Brits as
'America ris..'
But it's only now that I've pointed it out that they'll try it and realise.
The telephone number task should be a trigger for his sub-vocal voice. No one can hold a string of random numbers without repeating it over and over
I just saw the other day that Netlfix made a compilation of several british " Noooar" s (No) 😂😂😂 I hear it all the time, also In Only Fools here how they speak with "F"s 😅🤪
@@MandyCaneLane look out for this too because it truly blew my mind...
Americans speak every word clearly, using volume and elongation to point out the key words. Us Brits mumble and miss out words entirely, using normal volume for clarity to emphasis the key words
Eg
'I am sorry that I was late, but I was caught in traffic'
The key words 'sorry late, caught traffic'
So an American would say
'I am SOR-RYY that I was LAA-ATE, but I was CAU-AUGHT in TRAA-FIC'
Whereas a Brit would say
"Sorry 'z late 'z caught traffic"
Completely missing out "I am....that...but"' and smooshing 'I was' into 'z
Karls 'aight' is the perfect example. That is 'are you alright?' (standard greeting in UK like 'whats up!' not meaning 'omg you look terrible are you okay?!") smooshed to "y'alright" smooshed to 'alright' smooshed to "aigh' "
🤯 It's SO weird
"I don't wanna go slaggin' the place off.."
"I bet the moon was better"
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Dear Mandy, It’s my opinion that you personally add an extra 20% to the reaction itself. Your personal stories & thoughts are great to hear & as always that wonderful smile is just so endearing. Best wishes ❤️👍🍀
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That was so interesting, your explanation about the inner monologue. I've often wondered why Ricky couldn't understand it, I just thought obviously we have a voice in our heads wittering on constantly in our own voice and accent. I've never realised that some people don't have that. Just be kind of lonely at times but peaceful too.
Must be *
Glad to impart wisdom! 🤪
If I question myself I have an inner monologue. Anything else like thoughts or ideas/solutions to problems just happen.
Cool! Thank you for sharing!
Yessss, I've been looking forward to this one. I saw it was out a few hours back but I thought "I'm gonna get a nice drink, lay back, relax and enjoy this one properly!" 😀
Hope it doesn't dissapoint! 🤪🙌🏻
It was good fun! I'm looking forward to the end of monkey news though, it's the only feature where the surprise twist is that there's no twist, and it was a monkey all along. Karl's Diary eventually replaces Monkey News entirely, thankfully 🙂.
I actually make myself 'inner monologue', even though I don't think that way naturally. I think it helps clarify and focus thoughts.
Definitely have the inner monologs, and not just in my own voice. I'll use the voice of whomever I'd constructing my argument for.
when you realise there is an "off" switch for thought, look for it, find the off switch for inner dialogue, life gets so peaceful, and yea, i think in concepts, without words, its like an energy sensation and i i just know what i mean, its weird!
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Explaining you have 'Inner Monologue' to most people is like trying to convince them there are 'Ghosts' or 'Aliens', if they have never experienced it... so they will never understand or believe you. I literally don't only constantly talk to myself in my head... hear my voice in my accent, which by the way I have more interesting conversations than talking to most people, but quite often have arguments with myself as well !! Such as if I've done something stupid, say taken the wrong motorway exit, I will start hearing, ''you stupid fkr, why are you such a dumbass... etc, etc'', then this other me says ''Whoa take it easy on him, it's a an easy mistake, that sign was way too late, and a fkn truck was in the way of getting over''. How you could ever get someone who has never experienced 'Inner Monologue' to believe that is possible... would be impossible !!, and I get it !!, it must seem ridiculous and unbelievable, yet it happens, sorry but you're missing out, I can pass hours in conversation with myself, and it is amazing for problem-solving, resolving issues, making plans, formulating ideas, etc. I did read that people who do have Inner monologue are usually more intelligent that's why it happens, but let's not argue about that, we have different abilities in other areas.
I can think all 3 ways, inner monolog, visualizations, and conceptually. I switch between them depending on the situation I'm imagining. Conceptually and visualization is always faster. Using the monolog or dialog is like a low bit rate version of the thoughts.
Like with the late to the doctor example, all the information you have in the sentence "oh no I'm late, I'm supposed to be at the doctor at 3, but I forgot to set the alarm and got stuck in traffic and then got unlucky with the long red light. Damn, I can't believe I'm gonna be the person that causes everyone to have to wait 45 mins for the doctor to finally come in. Yadda yadda." All that is just a single thought that happens at the same time.
I usually only use words in my head if I'm imagining telling my thoughts to someone else, or if I've gone over the concept part a few times and can't shake the thought so I just cycle over the information in various ways, and then the sentences and visualizations happen as I'm contemplating.
Super interesting! Thank you for explaining! 🤗🤗
We have both inner monologue & the conceptual style. Most actions & reactions don't need words. I moved from UK to USA & my inner monologue turned American. Still me but with the full American accent. It started bleeding through my actual speech until I visited England & it went back to normal & the American version never reappeared.
Great reaction mandy 👍 I have the inner monologue (bad) and sometimes I catch myself telling myself to shut up 😂 how many candles are you burning? ✌️
Lol, 29! 😂
. o O (that's weird, I'm evesdropping in on this conversation and one fella said "how many candles are you burning?" and the lass said "29", I can't work this out at all)
I always wondered this but I thought of it more from children who can't speak yet. Then I realised some adult people don't even have an inner monologue. I asked my girlfriend who is bilingual and she said depending on what country she is in depends on what language her inner mobologue is. And what language she dreams in. She has dreams where her family who can't speak English will speak it in her dreams. Fascinating to me
My dad use call me James the jammy dodger, a Jammy dodger is a two layered shortcake with jam, strawberry or raspberry jam in the middle. I was also called shaggy from scooby doo do my goatee beard
Lol, why did he call you Jammy Dodger though? 😅😂
I definitely, think, I want an 'off switch' for my inner monologue... or do I 😂 ... the shows animators have won plenty of wards ... your video is honestly the best reaction everrr to one of these, you just keep nailing it with everthing Mandy, great work ... have a great one whatever you're doing ☺
Thank you so much Steve!!! That means so much to me 🤗🤗🤗
With the inner monologue in movies, I thought it was just a way to show the audience what the character's thinking
Would never have occurred to me that people actually think with an inner monologue
Thank you for explaining Liam!! 🤗🤗🤗
I don’t have an inner monologue, my thoughts are also conceptual. I CAN generate a voice in my head and hear it, but I don’t do that day to day
I'm in love with the sound of your laughter, it brightens my day.
Thank you so much Andrew! 🤗🤗
Blimey, I just assumed everyone has inner monologues!
I can choose to do both. I can talk to myself inside my head like reading to myself or see concepts and images etc. I'm sure everybody can do that. It's just that thinking words to yourself isn't as quick, and that is the point Ricky is making
I understood the same as you.
They're definitely distinctly separate features, you don't need an inner monologue for playing sports or those kinds of things, or playing chess, but you still need to think, then if you're performing on piano, it's much better if you don't think at all, that's like the goal of zen meditation, not to stop thinking, but if you can shut that voice up, you might be able to think.
I agree. I have the concept first and then have to translate it into words - where some of the meaning gets lost in translation but useful if you wish to talk to someone else about it.
Yeah I feel like most of this conversation is just people on both sides misunderstanding each other. You couldn't possibly verbalise through *every* thought you have. It would take forever and you would never get anything done. So people who say they verbalise everything don't actually do that, and they know how it feels to think instinctively. I'm sure some people do it more than others but it's still going to be a mix of the two for most people.
It's just something we do so automatically that we never really think about these things. So it's hard to catch yourself in the middle of a thought to understand how often you really verbalise things.
Looking forward to seeing your reaction to the first episode of season 2, "Clive Warren"! Probably my favourite.
Same, I never grow tired of hearing his ideas for movie-plots.
On the Stephen Hawking bit, apparently he did think in the robot voice. He was offered to have the voice changed to something closer to his real voice and he declined it because after so many years the robot voice had become his voice.
I'm in both camps on the thought front. When I get stressed my inner monolog becomes more obvious but if I catch myself I can tell it to quieten down and go back to conceptual mode. My inner monolog is a sign of me not enjoying something. Or if I want to practice a conversation I may choose to word it internally but that's a clear choice to use it for that specific purpose.
As for how explaining how thoughts form for non-monolog people, it's like seeing a diagram and getting an overall picture immediately without having to break it down into its constituent parts. It's just there. Like when you get in a car you don't need to know how all the hundreds of little parts work. It just works as a whole, but if you want to you can still examine it in detail. It's just not needed most of the time.
Thank you for explaining Aaron! 🤗🤗
As someone with OCD. My inner monolouge is pretty much 24/7. Can be good for ideas but can also be a hell.
I don’t know if you get a lot of comments saying not to pause the video and talk, but you apologise a lot for it. I really like it. It can be hard for solo reactors to express their thoughts at the end of a video without a discussion partner, so we only get about two minutes of vague insights. But I like your way of doing it. We get little stories and thoughts along the way. Only discovered your channel yesterday and have been binging and instantly subscribed. I’m shocked you don’t have more subscribers. You’re a delight to watch. Would love to hear more about Argentina as I’m quite ignorant.
Thank you so much Sara-Jayne!! And yeah, I have gotten many mean comments about it, so I am glad you enjoy it!! And if I don't get a thought out when it pops in my head, I will forget by the end of the video 😅🤗🤗
@@MandyCaneLane no worries 😊happy new year x
I often have good little chats with myself 🤣 I remember once having a "thought"-argument with myself, but speaking out loud. I was out on a walk and didn't notice two people sat next to a tree at the side of me 😱 They must have thought I was a right weirdo 🤣 But... did they think it conceptually or inner monologue-ly 🤔😆
Oh and good video 😆
Lmao, happens to me all the time! I never get used to the stares 🤪
Inner monologues are great, I can have an agreeable and intelligent conversation with myself
Right? Who needs friends when you can just converse with yourself on the inside 🤪😅
Nothing beats a high octane monkey news jingle.
My sister's nickname was Spud, our little sister's couldn't say Tracy it came out as Tattie, tatties are slang for potatoes same as the word Spud, so Tracy became Tattie but ended up as Spud
Lmao, poor Tracy 😂
I have the inner monologue and think in my accent too.
The bit about thinking got me thinking, Mandy! lol Generally I think in images with a few words thrown in to emphasis certain aspects. This allows one to make quick decisions and assess situations immediately. Of course, when making more complicated decisions, one is more likely to have a an internal dialogue about the pros and cons of possible choices. Not sure about accents though! haha My brain hurts now so see you later! 👀😂😂😂
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Dammit woman, how can I watch this video after that intro. I am not usually into ASMR, but that got me. ha ha
Take a cold shower, jeez...
@@annother3350 I need one
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"The cafe was called Tattoos. The fella that owned it didn't have any tattoos. But we never saw his wife".
Don't know why but this is my favourite Karl snippet of all time.
Because it is freakin' hilarious! 😂😂
Language is a recent construct in our history so if you think about it a inner monologue is the weirder of the two 😅 plus def people who have never heard their own voice
I have an inner monologue but I think about me talking about something to someone or a group people and someone else's speech pattern and their words they might use.
Very interesting!
I definitely have the inner monologue inside my head.
Does yours have an off button? Mine doesn't!
@@MandyCaneLane Nope mine doesn't have a off button either.
I don't have a voice in my head, but I do think in fully formed sentences. So I guess I'm, like, secret option number 3?
Damn. I think conceptually like Ricky and just figured everyone did the same. I was always a believer that voices in your head meant you were crazy. The best way to describe your doctor office example is you just realize you’re late because you had it in your brain that you should’ve been there at 3:00. It’s instinctual like slapping a bug that lands on you.
I would ask someone with inner monologues when a bug lands on your face, does your mind just give you the immediate thought to slap or waive at it? Or do you hear yourself going “hang on a minute, there is a bug on my face, better slap at it” ?
Thank you for explaining!
With inner monologue reflexes and many thoughts just happen. But when digging deeper in certain thoughts it is done with a voice you "hear" in your head. Most people have told me they constantly use it to make up conversations in their head, I am the same TBH. But back to the bug thing. It would be an immediate slap and then you would "hear" in your head "eeew" or "this little bugger" or whatever your post reaction would be. Hope that made sense!!
@@MandyCaneLane that makes total sense! These convos would be interesting to sit down with a group of people who think both ways. Anyway, I like your reaction and you got a new sub :)
I don't 'vocalise' my thoughts except when typing or writing something. I'm with Ricky on this I don't think in proper sentences thoughts are just concepts. I don't think out the sentence 'I need to go to the doctor at 3pm', I just know it. But I think this is just a difference between how people explain their thoughts, rather than a real difference in brain function. But how would you ever know, the act of thinking is a very hard thing to explain and I think people just go for the easiest analogy i.e. speaking. (I don't include intrusive thoughts in that, or 'hearing voices' in terms of mental illness which I know is a real thing)
These people definitely don't think in words the way they believe they do. Thoughts are instant, and conceptual as ricky said. My brain doesn't need to waste 5 seconds thinking the words "I'm feeling hungry, so I'm going to go in the kitchen to make a sandwich." That would feel like a disability lol. It's just an instant thought and my brain understands what I mean. The 'inner monologue' thing she refers to is different. Everyone rehearses conversations in their head, arguments with other people etc. This isn't what Ricky is talking about.
@@c_n_b No, but you do probably say to yourself, “I’m hungry; I’m gonna make a sandwich”
I don't think you fully understand how weird Karl thinks his brain works.
What you explained makes sense and is true from our understanding of how consciousness works for some people (an inner monologue; a dialog between two chambers of the brain - i.e. the bicameral mind), but with Karl (And how he understands all that) it's completely different and you'll get why Ricky thinks its weird in a later episode when Karl delves deeper into how he visualizes all this.
It's funny and weird, but to his credit, it also became the basis for a Black Mirror episode some several years later (not necessarily because of him, but rather because that's how a lot of people imagine how their minds work).
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[secret code] How many candles are you burning? [/secret code]
BoxerBoy, side on?
Uhh... alright. 29
My brain is the same. The best way to explain it to people is to tell them to watch an episode, Dexter! One of the best tv series ever, & also YOU on Netflix, I think the copied Dexter in that way.x
Ricky and Stephen were laughing at Karl's idea for a watch, but he pretty much predicted smart watches running health monitoring apps.
A smart watch with basic biometric monitoring functions is a far cry from a predictive watch that (somehow......just pop it on your wrist) predicts when you'll die based on who knows what criteria.
It depends on the criteria you're using to judge it. Karl suggested that, if the watch says you have days to live, you should go to see a doctor. So, he's proposing a watch that monitors the state of your health. You have the choice to take action to lower the probability of imminent death. Admittedly, Karl pushed the concept into the realm of absurdity, but the basis of the idea is there.
My thoughts appear above my head in a thought bubble.
How cartoony of you! 😂😂
@@MandyCaneLane The cloud is
clearly the most secure place to store our thoughts. 🌤
You’re going to have so much fun with Karls diary! 😂
I believe you!
Another great KP reaction, Mandy. Thanks so much. On the inner monologue, I sometimes call mine Dave.
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If the intro gets you every time wait til you see the intro to S3 E1
Hmm, I'm a "doing" learner, or at least visual. I think the "remember you have an appointment" thing, I think I do quickly fast forward to say 3pm and see myself at the doctor's, then backtrack to say where I'll be at 2.30 and imagine leaving that place then. Then imagine being at the doctor's, what will I need to have with me etc. And plan it while creating memories that should remind me of it etc.
Other times when I'm reflecting on something that happened in the past (years ago, 5 seconds ago, doesn't matter) I'll have my own voice trying out different possibilies in real time.
So a mixture of different methods, depending on situation.
@Darkstar why do you think it is a myth?
What if you haven't been somewhere before and need to remember a lot of information about how to get there?
@@jakemorrison8507 I'll likely check it out on streetview so I know what to expect visually. I kinda drive it virtually and then I've already done it and learned it. Not the whole route, just anything that looks tricky or just the final destination I guess.
DarkStar wrote "Visual learning is such a garbage myth. You've been misled to think you have something that doesn't exist. Whether you did that to yourself or not is what you really need to find the answer to."
then deleted it or it got deleted.
I do think humans evolved as visual learners though...you know, before language and writing......
I have that voice inside of my head, don't everyone have that? I thought this is just a function of the human brain. And let me tell ya my voice is rude.
I'm the same I thought it was normal lol
@@Mviews-hb4ib Yes I do that too.
Lmao Victor! Nope, not everyone has it, there are many different ways the brain works. Also some people have trouble visualising images inside their head, when others can do it with ease. When it gets rude tell your voice Mandy says to shut up! 😂😅
@@MandyCaneLane i did and it seems to be working.🤣
Well.. you can postulate not everyone has to.. imagine a person who was deaf from birth. Why would they have a voice in their head
This episode articulates really well that Ricky and Steve are sometimes really limited in their thoughts compared to Karl.
They just assume that no-one hears an internal monologue because they don't and can't accept Karl's point of view for a minute.
It happens a lot where Karl's freedom of thought seemingly allows him to see things they can't get to. It also happens a lot with Karl's understanding of his brain and how there are different levels of consciousness. It's just his lack of words that prevents him from explaining it.
Exactly this
You know the 'how would I know which one I am?' 'that must be the stupidest thing anyone has ever said'
Karls spot on. Read the Wikipedia on teleporter paradox and Derek Parfit's version with clones
True, like when Karl differentiates between ‘him’ and his brain, he is just making a delineation between his conscious and subconscious mind. We all do things subconsciously, or automatically out of habit, which is why he sometimes says “Am I in charge, or is me brain in charge”? Often he just lacks the words to properly say what he means.
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'Are we in control of our brain or is it in control of us' is actually a very philosophical discussion on free will that Sam Harris discussed all the time! MRI scans show that our 'brains' have made a choice before we as conscious beings realise we've made it.
The problem is that Karl spouts so much nonsense so often, that when he does eventually say something sensible, Ricky and Stephen are conditioned to assume that it's wrong, or at the very least has been misinterpreted and misrepresented by Karl. Years of listening to things like Educating Ricky and Monkey News have made questioning everything Karl says their default response. Do not forget that this a man who thought that global warming wasn't an issue because glaciers falling into the ocean would just cause everything to freeze again, or that you could actually buy property on the Moon (which he did).
It is also, like you say, a matter of Karl not being able to articulate his thoughts, and Ricky has acknowledged this several times. In this show, he mentions at one point that Karl could have Stephen Hawking sitting beside him whispering entirely true statements in his ear, but when Karl regurgitates it, it comes out as gobbledygook.
I also wouldn't label what Karl has "freedom of thought". If anything, it's a _restriction_ of thought, as there are some ideas (like the infinite monkeys with typewriters concept) that Karl will seemingly never be able to grasp. He's so inarticulate and uneducated (because he dropped out of school at 15 and was hardly ever there beforehand) that some ideas are just simply too much for him to work out, and he's admitted before (on XFM) that he sometimes avoids thinking about complex ideas and questions that are put to him because thinking *physically makes his head hurt.*
I totally agree. Ricky and Steve are not as clever as they think they are.
Never be sorry for sharing your thoughts, it's why we watch Mando 🙂👍
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Wait what? People hear their own voice inside their head when they think? When I think, sure sometimes if dwelling on something the thought gets verbalised/converted to words, but it's still done silently, as if I _read_ the words not as if I _heard_ them.
Wait… when you read, do you hear a voice, too?! 😂 That would drive me crazy, a quiet tinnitus is bad enough.
Yeah, we read ''outloud'' with a voice in our head, any voice you want. If your creative and good at it, you can use your favorite orator for that genre or just your own, and you'll say it faster than you could in your own voice out loud and won't mess up with your tongue placement because you are not using it. You can still mess up, just not the type where it is because you didn't use your mouth and vocal cords and breath correctly. You never thought about what your parents would say and hear their voice using previous tones they used with you in the past?
The issue here is that they don’t understand that inner dialogue and thoughts are two entirely different brain functions.
Inner dialogue is an largely an automatic mechanism. I have to pull out my textbooks to really get into the evolutionary purpose of the inner dialogue…. But basically think of your inner dialogue as a room mate.
Your inner dialogue is not the self, because we can observe it. If you’re observing it, it can’t be the self because the self is what observes.
@@arifeannor9573 Oh I can imagine how things sound, but I don't actually _hear_ them when I imagine them. Like when I think of blue things, I don't see blue.
Perhaps we're talking about the same thing, but I have experienced audio-hallucinations where you actually think you hear a voice for real, loud enough to check if you have company, when your brain does that, you realise there's a difference between hearing things and just imagining how things sound.
But if I imagine a voice when I'm reading something, then I'm reading slowly, if I stop the voice and just read, I can read much faster. Same with thoughts, you can think really fast if you don't resort to verbalisation, like if you're thinking when playing chess, there shouldn't be much in the way of words when thinking what to do.
@@RustinChole Oh, I have an inner dialogue, but it's more like telepathy than speech, if that makes sense - it doesn't say anything, but I know what it's thinking. It may be because my mother had post natal depression when I was born so wasn't very communicative. 🤔
Imagine a conversation with a travel agent: "Is the destination a big rock?" 😂I can imagine the look on the travel agent's face.
Stephen Hawking died in 2018. I wonder the same thing. When Hawking was around, the inner monologue .... was it his voice from when he could speak, or was it the computer's voice, since much of his life he communicated like that? Cause after a while, you get used to the current situation, whatever you're going through, if it lasts long enough. THAT was HIS plight for so long. So, I had the same question.
This show cracks me up. I bet Ricky was like "Let me create a show where every episode is us laughing at Karl." :D
Nicknames ....... My nickname is Jay.
The animation enhances the show, cause they can show the story while the hosts are telling the story. Wise crack jokes visually as they're trying to explain verbally. I kinda mentioned before, but my joke about this show is me trying to speak deep with the voice over at the beginning. That guy must be a base, if not baritone. I'm baritone.
Lmao! I never traveled to any big rocks, I want to see at least one! 🤪
Just found your channel,brilliant reactor,love it
Thank you 🤗🥰
thanks for your reactions.....they always made my day
So glad you enjoy them Carsten! Thank you!! 🤗🌈🌻
Please stop apologising for what you believe is rambling. This is definitely the most interesting part or parts of your reaction videos.
I always got confused with Ricky mentions the thought just appears it is conceptual.
I tried to change the volume in my monologue thoughts and I believe it is simulated as I cannot damage my ears with high-pitched screams or overdrive music.
Interesting stuff, thank you. But please stop apologising for stopping the video and sharing your thoughts. 🎉
I don't have an inner monologue. I don't hear a voice. The best way I can describe it is, you know when you get to know someone very well, they can tell you to sit down etc with just a look. No words were said but you know what they said with the look. It's a bit like that. As for the thing in flims, they have to voice their inner thoughts or non of the viewers would know what the actor is thinking.
Interesting! Thank you for sharing! And I imagine there could be other creative ways to portray a characters thoughts, but since monologues seem to be the more common way people think, it is the go to!
"Alright" - Karl Pilkington