Making an F1 car can be easier than buying it
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What happens when you want to buy your own Formula 1 car, but the one you want isn't available? Well one option which Alistair Bennett and his team did for a client was to build their own, and not just any F1 car but the legendary six-wheeler Tyrrell P34!
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My recollection is that drawings of the P34 were provided to Tamiya when the kit was first produced, Tamiya provided sponsorship to Tyrrell and now the kit has helped to create a new car. Full circle.
I believe Tamiya has/had a Tyrrell in their museum/collection.
@@michaelandrew4488 they have it at the entrance of their headquarters in Japan
I built the 1:24 model when I was about 13. I got into trouble from my parents for 'wasting my pocket money' on what was a very expensive kit in about 1978.
One of those original cars from Tamiya is in my family. It was built, test driven once and placed back on the shelf in the box. The decals were never applied. The car is mint. The tires and everything are in pristine shape even today. The car has lived in total darkness at about 60 degrees forever.
I carefully took the car to a local RC track one night to share with the club. There were multiple offers to trade me entire RC collections plus a mountain of cash. The car was not and is not for sale.
A piece of RC history for sure.
@@JAMPROSOUND they are actually not even worth that much surprisingly, the 1977 originals can be found for 350/400$ on Ebay. She’s a keeper for sure.
If you're an engineer and an F1 history buff. This must have been a dream project. Great to see there's people out there to preserve the living history of race engineering. The mix of modern CAD and older fabrication methods would have been so interesting to me.
Using the Tamiya kit is not a bad idea. Tamiya bought a Tyrrell P34 straight after the Japan GP in 1976 to make their 1:20th and 1:12th scale model kits. That car, which is one of the 5 surviving chassis, is actually at display in the Tamiya Reception Hall in their headquarter in Shizuoka. So to re-engineer body parts from the 1:12th scale model kit is the next closest thing to the real thing beside straight copying an existing nosecone from another surviving car.
great idea, dude :D
I've just realised that I have actually seen this car race in Barcelona. Spoke to the owner and the team for a bit, nice people who love to race what others would keep in the garage :)
The good thing about privateer teams back in the 70's where F1 was accessible as building a car and just showing up with the thing, is that the vast majority of the drawings used to build them aren't sealed away in a massive facility and have likely been sold along with the cars when they became obsolete and worthless. And as they weren't insanely high tech you can just build another one out of any old spare metal lying about. The greatness of F1 in the 1970's was that anyone could have a go really, and it's still a positive felt today on the historic racing scene.
I was told a story a few years ago about a historic F1 racer who had a fire at his shop and lost his F1 car in that fire, but because he had the drawings, he just built another one and hardly told anyone about it!
So cool how it took so much, the project management must have been so hard. The video is 🔥. Nice👍
The fact that a Tamiya model helped design the front is just awesome, such a great compliment to them! The P34 is a legendary car, mega cool that this company is able to make such a beautiful replica!
Tyrell used to go to Horsley cycles to get secondhand inner tubes.
They would cut them up and use them on the F1 cars.
impressive build,im not suprised you can still buy crate dfvs,iwant one too lol
My favourite F1 car! I've built the 1/20 Tamiya kit twice ('76 is on my channel) and would really like the 1/12 now.
For anyone who wants to know more about how these cars went together, I can totally recommend scale models like Tamiya.
Yup, building the big Tamiya kits was crucial in my development on how the real cars actually worked.
@@trappenweisseguy27 oh definitely. I wish there were more kits for modern F1 cars really as it's great to see how technology has moved on.
The 1/20 Tyrell was my first Tamiya F1 kit!
@@fepatton same here!
Unreal bit of kit, and job by Alistair's team!
This is a Piece of art and engineering !! Great Job from FR Racing !!
It’s crazy seeing you feature the P34, back in the early 2000’s my father worked at a vintage race shop and they completely restored and raced one of those cars at vintage race events, I was young but I still remember the car just because of how strange it was, super awsome!
was lucky enough to see the Elf Tyrell and JPS Lotus as well as Marlboro McLaren having a spin around Goodwood a few years back at a historic racing weekend. As a lad in the 70's I loved my Scalextric lotus and 6 wheel Tyrell.😃
At the time stamp, @2:17, the drawing, shows the tie-rod's / links, the welded on threaded bungs, are each cut at an angle before welded on. Can I just assume that was one extra step that allowed for aerodynamics, as in the perfect alignment world, all those being "IN-LINE" with air flow, is a small amount but collectively, all adds up. But, what about, if they need adjusted, as a turn buckle process, where each tie-rod has on one end, right-hand thread and the other end has a left-hand thread, so, for ease of adjustment, a compounded linear length of movement happens, pending the thread pitch, all in all, a quarter turn, now has those angle cut threaded bungs not in the air stream efficiency? Or is this a welding technique, for balancing the contraction from where the weld started and ended, and just adds more control over how the tube warps? I have seen this method of tie-rods on other drawings, but nobody ever has an answer as to why the drawing has them drawn this was.
It's crazy how you manage to get these videos done. Always an interesting topic about F1 that few people get to see.
Keep it up Matt. I can't wait to see what comes next.
Crazy plan, Netflix ? Tor ads needed ?
Have to admit, this is really cool but my eyes kept wondering over to that Jaguar 😍😍
Mine keeps checking out that equally stunning JPS LOtus back there.
If you guys want to see this car in action, theres a wonderful onboard in the Robbert Alblas channel of this exact car (The few exterior clips in this video are from that onboard)
Building the P34 Tamiya kit sparked my F1 interest, ever since 1983. Tamiya is so good. Tyrrell as well
Same for me it started with the P34 1/20 Tamiya Kit when i was 11, never lost interest and got my way into enginering. Still in it!
pretty awesome engineering it's always tough to work with someone elses drawings especially when stuff is done to it that is just undocumented, if you didn't know all the folks you did this wouldn't have been possible major props to the team behind this
I always had a fascination about this particular F-1 car. When I first saw a picture of one back in the 70's, it was like something out of a Sifi novel or someone's vision of race cars in the future. It was wild. But pushing the envelope doesn't come without its problems. But it's a really cool car now. And yes I have my model sitting on the shelf.
I was one of the two people who made the chassis, lots of head scratching! As a fabricator, I realised making those things back in the day must have been incredibly hard, time consuming work, we had it easy in the grand scheme of things.
You and the team did an incredible job!
ah man, I remember, first time ever seeing this car was on the G1 transformers show, one of the decepticon stunticons(named Dragstrip) was this car, and I remember thinking it was the coolest thing I had ever seen, It's still so cool to me.
I have many models of the TE. From slotcars to diecast & RC.
This would be a crown jewel.
What a great project. Wonderful Tyrrell allowed it.
This is SO INTERESTING! Dude, I love your videos! I've been a subscriber for a short while now and imo your videos are THE most interesting and the quality is also insane. Literally every video
Glad you like them!
Super Cool Bringing these Cars Back.
Looks Epic.
This is our favourite vintage F1! Love to see a brand new one like this some day!
One of the coolest looking most unique race car ever. I seen one in person in the 80’s and it was unforgettable!
Can't wait to start studying this wonderful race car.
The people you get on always present these videos so well
My dream car is to do the same sort of build for a Mclaren MP4/4. I’ve always wanted to build that since I was 14.
A real Ford Cosworth engine in it and it RUNS??? Now that is a wicked build for sure especially since it's based on an F1 legend that was knocked off its pedestal undeservingly.
That’s insane. It looks incredible.
You could be the best engineer's and copy but you have gone above and beyond and to have the appoval is icing on the cake .
Incredible! That was one of my favorite cars when I was a child. Still is.
I so wish someone like Factory 5 would take up the mantle and offer these. It would be too cool to see a p34 nostalgia-spec group!
So one can just buy a new Cosworth engine from the ‘70s? That blows my mind. Why would they keep all the tooling and castings? Amazing.
This is the most fascinating "behind the scenes" videos I've seen. I remember Jaguar completed a similar project building an E-type to original specs. So freaking cool. Thanks!!
reengineering it, why, just a stupid dream this is, why go full blown fake ?
That was an excellent video of one of my favourite F1 cars. Brilliant engineering explained very well.
Tamiya bought a real P34 and its at one of the factory basements. They also bought a Porsche 934 that raced in Lemans. There is a photo of the cars in a Tamiya book I have.
WOW - Thank you! have always been a big fan of Williams and Tyrell, and with Williams, even since the Walter Wolf days !!
YES! THE TYRRELL-FORD P34 IS MY MOST FAVORITE CAR EVER!!
Incredible!!! many thanks for this video. Love the era, these cars, and I'm very interested how they're built. And I just love looking at cars like this. So beautiful, even if not one single hour was invested to make it look pretty. It's only made to be fast, but in the end it's beautiful.
There is also a six-wheeler prototype F1 car from Williams 1981, which on the other hand has 4 rear wheels
I love it; can I put an order in for a fully skirted Lotus 79? Interesting that the wheel nuts on both the left and right sides were red. I've always pictured blue on one side and red on the other to indicate right or left hand threads.
I love the oddity of the car. I’m an F1 fan and have that Tamiya model you used for the nose design. F1 allowed more innovation back then. Nice project and video. Thanks
Now there's a blast from the past! When this thing came out I just started Jr. High.. My Grandma and I watched Indy, F1, and Top Fuel Drags regularly and I remember talking about this 'thing'.. I thought it was a unique concept where Grandma said it'd never make it as a 'standard' entry. She was right... again. It's a cool idea even if it didn't gain any momentum as anything other than a conceptual, evolutional oddity.. it's still cool though and in the back of my head, my teen aged brain still thinks further development is needed.
matt,what editor you use to make graphics?
It would be awesome if they made model kits in this size, I'd certainly love to have one of this car sitting in my house!
Thanks for the explanation on the tires. Is air pressure still a problem?
Awesome project. What a car . They should have been allowed to race more
If you were to say to me that I could have any F1 car from history, this would be the one I'd pick. It's a left-field, outside-the-box design that has inspired me since childhood.
Was hoping to hear the car start up
Awesome that they drove with this car.. is scarry.. no space, all think to close to each other, no security, not safe, the nose is next to the feets.. 👍💪
This is my retirement dream - but with a '69 McLaren M8-B. Shop's nearly complete; couple years to go! Thanks for the inspiration.
great video, a question, what is the track that you use in the second half part of this video? was great, greetings 😉
amazing stuff that these guys are doing. they are mega talented
Was that design on an 80-90s anime (maybe series)? Not Akira.
This is truly a remarkable project!
El legendario tyrrell Cosworth 🏁🏁👍👍🌟
geomtry or ratio on the steering?
I love the F1 days when anyone with half an idea ..some steel tube, a workshop and a DFV could build an F1 car.
Indeed! great times and imo better than today where all of the cars mostly look the same.
Many people look at a 6 wheeled Tyrell and say WTF were they thinking? , They must have been stoned when they built this thing!
What we need to see is a picture of a 6 wheeler in a wind tunnel with smoke blowing over it.
I honestly don’t see how they race these old cars. These cars did not have much safety to them. Guess you race at your own risk.
Besides that amazing legendary car and great job on recreating it.
The average person in a decent workshop at home could make a open wheel car on the cheap. The problem is you can't licence it to the road or use it.
Fantastic video. Fascinating car. Thank you also to the UA-cam algorithm for suggesting this
No car I've ever seen can take 2 bites at the Devils Elbow at Donnigton, apart from this one!
That looks serious fun!!!!!
Awesome but the gauge panel is heart breaking
Supreme! Love the Tamiya angle
That 2000 2001 ?Jaguar is 💚💚💚
Megatron phoned, he wants his Stunticon back.
How much did it cost?
is there any footage of this car racing?
I’d give literally anything to even see one let alone drive or race one
I mean you quite literally could build an older style F1 car, its very achievable these days as the cars are a lot simple relatively speaking, than the cars of today.
Really enjoyed this.
great great work, but it sends me shivers down my spine thinking that they really fiercely raced in these aluminum coffins.
That Tyrell is sumthin u don't have a choice
How much does one cost to buy?
Next , Gordon Murray's fan car....
The clunkyness of the brake pedal gives a hint on how much pressure the drivers had to apply to it... What a great build!
What a great story 👏
Sad with no footage of it operating...
yeah, i wake up and i decide, i'm gonna make a classic F1 car
because it's simple
Fantastic!
Amazing!❤️
Those were the golden days of motorsport..not the stupid present times of over regulated, anti progress crap that promotes fake competition and trying to grab attention by inflating drama as opposed to nice futuristic racing with next gen vehicles that young boys dream.
Fantastic effort. I need to work for this company. Anybody hiring a recently retired mechanical engineer. I’ll work for free on these cars. cheers
Excellent video ended to soon 👍
Nowadays, F1 design is all CAD. Back then, it was all chad.
Incredible effort, Amazing result, I'd love to be that wealthy you can build stuff of dreams, 😊
Wow so cool!
Superb.. thank you for sharing :)
I have the hotwheels size of same car
CBR Watahikiチャンネル how also make a Tyrell P34 replica from Japan. Go check him out!
typical tamiya always perfect
sometimes a project can base you again.
Props to TAMIYA